Received: from web20108.mail.yahoo.com (web20108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.45]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h21ECWP00626 for <nifl-esl@nifl.gov>; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 09:12:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20030301141232.5464.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.208.104] by web20108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 06:12:32 PST Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 06:12:32 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rogers <englishtoday2002@yahoo.com> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8689] censorship on this list To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov Cc: b_rieux@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20030301101134.99334.qmail@web40902.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Content-Length: 2804 Lines: 107 I recently posted a message concerning students' and teachers' rights in the classroom, and received one reply, from Charles Januzzi. His original message was sent to the whole list, but it was censored. Fortunately, he cc'd a copy to me (see below), and my question is - why was it censored? Paul Rogers To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov, "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> CC: englishtoday2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: rights in the classroom? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:44:41 +0900 > And, to me, the main issue should be centered on > the implications for ESL classes and the concerns of > ESL students. I would be the last person to say we need to politicize our students into an activist role. In the present political and social climate in many countries, it is simply far too dangerous. And immigrant populations are very vulnerable to charges of being unpatriotic, etc. >From what I see on this list (political thinking that is anathema draws immediate personal attacks), I think even American teachers need to review the right of free speech and political freedom. Perhaps more than a few teachers on this list need to re-take some basic civics lessons. You seem to have answered your own question, Paul. You say you delete or ignore pure political discussions, but want something done about linguistic prejudice against non-native speakers of English (and their right to use other languages besides English) and the academic freedom of teachers. Yet you seem unwilling to take on the issues in the large social and political spheres. I wish I could give you a 5 point lesson plan on how to make the world more just, but I can't. As I said, if you teach, sooner or later advocacy finds you. Charles Jannuzi PS: I'm ccing a copy to you because some of my posts do not make it to the list. --- Charles Jannuzi <b_rieux@yahoo.com> wrote: > It is regrettable that any attempt to discuss > serious issues with political and social > implications are censored on this > list--censorship arising from the concerns of a > handful of conservative and religious crybabies. > It is hypocritical of the list owner and > moderator to criticize anyone for substantive but > challenging posts, when all such criticism does > is cater to the very clique that has constantly > initiated the personal attacks. In short, this > list is now a repressive wasteland, like much of > the political and social climate of the current > US. > > Charles Jannuzi > Fukui, Japan > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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