[NIFL-ESL:8754] RE: NIFL's Policy

From: Meral Kara (karamera@boun.edu.tr)
Date: Thu Mar 06 2003 - 14:02:16 EST


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Amen Ujwala 

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On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Ujwala Samant wrote:

> >>Is your sense of proportion a bit skewed here? Are your priorities
> straight, given all that is going on in the world right now?
> 
> I ask that you moderate and lead discussions and stop censoring the list.
> It's that simple. Also, you might all be a bit more honest about what
> happened instead of dumping on one person who became upset (he didn't use
> words like 'asinine' or 'troublemaker', two others did). The individual
> became upset at the whining, upset at the dishonesty, and upset about the
> censorship. At least that is what he said in a post offlist. <<
> 
> I am inclined to agree with you. I think the censorship and banning has been
> arbitrarily done. All the initial exchanges seemed inflammatory from one
> direction, and the responses were always polite. Then came the arrogant,
> rude replies which went unchecked. That unfortunately seems to be the tone
> of any debate that includes politics, on or off line.
> 
> How people can imagine that all they do is teach a language without the
> context of politics, given our population, is either an expression of
> naiveté or an expression of their ostrichlike tendencies. We talk Freire and
> do something entirely different in our practice. We critique academics for
> not being in touch with reality, and then turn around and do exactly the
> same thing. We are not teaching high school students English as a subject,
> as one does Spanish or French. We're teaching adults to speak the language
> of power, the language that will help them negotiate this new culture, which
> especially in today's world, is rife with political innuendo. Or are we
> teaching discrete, isolated skills sans context? Language teaching is not
> some sanitised K-12 scenario where we teach grammar, history in sequences,
> with no connection to the reality of learners' lives.
> 
> regards
> Ujwala Samant
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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