Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h23IeCP25657; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:40:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:40:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <00fd01c2e1b5$ff8a7770$6401a8c0@pp200> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Dottie Shattuck" <dottie@shattuck.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8716] Re: Writing in books X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 6184 Lines: 185 Cartesol@yahoogroups.com Susan, you may want to post your question on our Carolina TESOL board. __ | \ |__ / ottie dottie@shattuck.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Ryan" <susanefl@hotmail.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8712] Re: Writing in books | Cindi, Could you tell me what areas in South Carolina have active ESOL | teaching programs? Is it fairly prevalent there? In public school systems, | do you know? | Susan | Susanefl@hotmail.com | | | | | | | >From: "Cindi Riley" <criley@lowcountryliteracy.org> | >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov | >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> | >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8706] Re: Writing in books | >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:59:43 -0500 (EST) | > | >I think that a CD for worksheets would be wonderful. ELLIS has Learner | >Guides that are printed in just that way. It's great to be able to print | >just what you need. | > | >******************** | >Cindi Riley | >Assistant Director | >Literacy Volunteers of the Lowcountry | >1403 Prince St. | >Beaufort, SC 29902 | >phone 843-525-6658 | >fax 843-521-1945 | >criley@lowcountryliteracy.org | >www.lowcountryliteracy.org | > | >-----Original Message----- | >From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Cathy Shank | >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:11 AM | >To: Multiple recipients of list | >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8662] Re: Writing in books | > | > | >Do you have a budget for photocopies? Or is that a problem also? | >Just curious to know if a text series that offered an accompanying CD | >ROM that came with the Teacher edition and that had worksheets that you | >could print off, would be attractive? | >Cathy Shank | > | > | >-----Original Message----- | >From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Lorraine | >Gardner | >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:03 AM | >To: Multiple recipients of list | >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8661] Re: Writing in books | > | >This is definitely the ideal situation, I agree. However, in the | >non-credit | >community college ESL/ABE programs in which I have taught, the only way | >students could have their own book was to buy it themselves. Some did, | >but | >the vast majority could not afford it. So if I wanted to give students | >an | >assignment to work on at home, I had to make photocopies. With the | >budget | >cuts going on nowadays, I imagine the situation will not change any time | > | >soon. It's not the ideal, but it's the situation that many of us have to | >face. | > | >Lorraine Gardner | >Academic/Workplace Skills Instructor | >Omaha, NE | >lad-oh@etop.org | > | > | >At 09:42 AM 2/27/03 -0500, you wrote: | > >Christina, | > > | > >I have to agree that students need the actual book. Having their own | > >personal book gives a status of "learner" and nothing else accomplishes | > >this in quite the same way. | > > | > >Donita Kaare | > >Learning Skills Center Director | > >Olney Central College | > > | > >-----Original Message----- | > >From: Barbara Dorsett [mailto:barbsesl@worldpath.net] | > >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:38 AM | > >To: Multiple recipients of list | > >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8659] Re: Writing in books | > > | > >Christina: Our adult ed. center was recently given an explanation of | > >the | > >copyright law, and the way I understand it is that as long as you | >aren't | > >copying a whole book, and what you do copy is only used in your | > >classroom, | > >you can make copies. Of course, that may mean some things in a book | > >won't | > >be used. Some of us just have the students number a sheet of paper and | > >do | > >exercises that way without writing in the book. Anyway, I know how you | > >feel--we also have limited resources and have to keep a close eye on | > >copy | > >machine use. Any, yes, I do look for photocopiable materials, and I am | > >finding more and more of them. I think publishers/authors are getting | > >the | > >idea of our plight in adult ed. My favorite text to get people started | > >in | > >English is called Collaborations: English in Our Lives (Lit. Level) by | > >Donna | > >Moss, Cathy Shank, and Lynda Terrill (Go, Lynda!) published by Heinle & | > >Heinle. It has life stories written by actual learners (so your | >learners | > >can | > >relate), great photographs, many different writing, listening, and | > >speaking | > >activities, and great ideas for little projects to do in class. The | > >upper | > >levels of this series have even more great ideas for extension | > >activities. | > >Barbara Dorsett, | > >ESOL teacher and coordinator | > >Dover Adult Learning Center | > >Dover, NH | > >----- Original Message ----- | > >From: <Cleomathew@aol.com> | > >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> | > >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:50 AM | > >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8654] Writing in books | > > | > > | > > > Hello list, | > > > | > > > I was wondering how other people dealt with this problem. I teach at | > >the | > > > pre-literacy level with adult refugees. We can buy classroom sets of | > >books, | > > > but the books have to stay in the room and can't be written in. | > >Students | > >can | > > > buy books, but many don't have the resources to do so. What have | >other | > > > programs done? Do you use books in your classroom? Do you look for | > >copyable | > > > materials? Are there any favorite books at the pre-literacy level? | > > > | > > > I like Longman ESL Literacy, but since we can't write in the books | >and | > >it | > > > isn't a copyable book, I can't use it. I've ended up making a lot of | > >my | > >own | > > > worksheets, and I use pictures from magazines and the Internet to | >make | > >board | > > > games and card sets for basic foods, body parts, clothing, etc. | > > > | > > > Thanks, | > > > Christina L. Mathew | > > > DeKalb Tech. ESL Teacher, | > > > Clarkston, Georgia | > > > | > | | | _________________________________________________________________ | The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* | http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | |
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