Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h1RF3PP16009; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:03:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:03:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030227084833.00a3ce20@mail.etop.org> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Lorraine Gardner <lad-oh@etop.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8661] Re: Writing in books X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Status: O Content-Length: 3539 Lines: 99 This is definitely the ideal situation, I agree. However, in the non-credit community college ESL/ABE programs in which I have taught, the only way students could have their own book was to buy it themselves. Some did, but the vast majority could not afford it. So if I wanted to give students an assignment to work on at home, I had to make photocopies. With the budget cuts going on nowadays, I imagine the situation will not change any time soon. It's not the ideal, but it's the situation that many of us have to face. Lorraine Gardner Academic/Workplace Skills Instructor Omaha, NE lad-oh@etop.org At 09:42 AM 2/27/03 -0500, you wrote: >Christina, > >I have to agree that students need the actual book. Having their own >personal book gives a status of "learner" and nothing else accomplishes >this in quite the same way. > >Donita Kaare >Learning Skills Center Director >Olney Central College > >-----Original Message----- >From: Barbara Dorsett [mailto:barbsesl@worldpath.net] >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:38 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8659] Re: Writing in books > >Christina: Our adult ed. center was recently given an explanation of >the >copyright law, and the way I understand it is that as long as you aren't >copying a whole book, and what you do copy is only used in your >classroom, >you can make copies. Of course, that may mean some things in a book >won't >be used. Some of us just have the students number a sheet of paper and >do >exercises that way without writing in the book. Anyway, I know how you >feel--we also have limited resources and have to keep a close eye on >copy >machine use. Any, yes, I do look for photocopiable materials, and I am >finding more and more of them. I think publishers/authors are getting >the >idea of our plight in adult ed. My favorite text to get people started >in >English is called Collaborations: English in Our Lives (Lit. Level) by >Donna >Moss, Cathy Shank, and Lynda Terrill (Go, Lynda!) published by Heinle & >Heinle. It has life stories written by actual learners (so your learners >can >relate), great photographs, many different writing, listening, and >speaking >activities, and great ideas for little projects to do in class. The >upper >levels of this series have even more great ideas for extension >activities. >Barbara Dorsett, >ESOL teacher and coordinator >Dover Adult Learning Center >Dover, NH >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Cleomathew@aol.com> >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:50 AM >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8654] Writing in books > > > > Hello list, > > > > I was wondering how other people dealt with this problem. I teach at >the > > pre-literacy level with adult refugees. We can buy classroom sets of >books, > > but the books have to stay in the room and can't be written in. >Students >can > > buy books, but many don't have the resources to do so. What have other > > programs done? Do you use books in your classroom? Do you look for >copyable > > materials? Are there any favorite books at the pre-literacy level? > > > > I like Longman ESL Literacy, but since we can't write in the books and >it > > isn't a copyable book, I can't use it. I've ended up making a lot of >my >own > > worksheets, and I use pictures from magazines and the Internet to make >board > > games and card sets for basic foods, body parts, clothing, etc. > > > > Thanks, > > Christina L. Mathew > > DeKalb Tech. ESL Teacher, > > Clarkston, Georgia > >
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