[NIFL-ESL:8464] RE: using poetry in the adult ed EL/Civics

From: Georges Marceau (tijean417@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Jan 14 2003 - 13:08:39 EST


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Since the heading is "Using Poetry in the adult ed
EL/Civics", examples of poetry's usage in this context
would be great to share with educators working in
those areas. 
Simple language
Yet it means so much
My new life in the United States
is like a poem.

Regards
Georges Marceau
CNY Staff Development
Syracuse, NY



--- Mary Hogan <maryhogan@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Andres.  I'm doing a training on writing
> this weekend and wanted to 
> include poety.  Your ideas are perfect for our
> students.  Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Andres Muro" <AndresM@epcc.edu>
> >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov
> >To: Multiple recipients of list
> <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8461] RE: using poetry in the
> adult ed EL/Civics
> >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:26:35 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >Poetry can be used at all levels. Of course you
> need to select poetry that 
> >meets the educational level of the learner.
> >
> >A long time ago one of our students wrote that he
> felt like a bird with no 
> >wings because he couldn't read.
> >
> >That alone is a poem.
> >
> >Alma Flor Ada has a lot of excersises to build
> writing skills using poetry.
> >For example, she suggests giving the students a
> promt such as
> >
> >I am like....
> >
> >Then she asks the students to compare themselves to
> an object, thing, 
> >animal, etc.
> >
> >I am like a rock
> >I am like a cat
> >I am like a flower
> >I am like a bird
> >
> >You can continue to add different elements to this
> excersise, such as:
> >
> >I am like a ......that......
> >I am like a ......because
> >I am the......that.......
> >
> >You can explore other constructions such as
> >
> >I feel like.....
> >I need....
> >I want.....
> >
> >Hope that this helps,
> >
> >Andres
> > >>> susanefl@hotmail.com 01/14/03 09:45AM >>>
> >I am surprised at using poetry in ESL. Poetry is so
> difficult to translate.
> >Would this be a college level class?
> >Susan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Miriam Burt" <miriam@cal.org>
> > >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list
> <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
> > >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8456] RE: using poetry in the
> adult ed EL/Civics
> > >classroom
> > >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:49:04 -0500 (EST)
> > >
> > >Hillary:
> > >
> > >In 1999, NCLE published a digest by Joy Peyton
> and Pat Rigg about using
> > >poetry in the adult ESL class. It offers
> suggestions/activities on how to
> > >read a poem in class and how to write one. It
> even has a lesson plan for
> > >one poem included there. The poem is about
> working, so the content is
> > >directly related to adult ESL.
> > >
> > >Check it out online at
> http://www.cal.org/ncle/digests/Poetry.htm
> > >
> > >Miriam
> > >*********
> > >Miriam Burt
> > >Associate Director, National Center for ESL
> Literacy Education (NCLE)
> > >Center for Applied Linguistics
> > >4646 40th Street NW
> > >Washington, DC 20015
> > >(202) 362-0700 (phone)
> > >(202) 363-7204 (fax)
> > >miriam@cal.org
> > >*****************************************
> > >Visit NCLE's Web site at www.cal.org/ncle
> > >*****************************************
> > >We're the only national center devoted
> exclusively to providing technical
> > >assistance to those working with adults learning
> English as a second
> > >language.
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Hillary Gardner
> [mailto:hgardner@lagcc.cuny.edu]
> > >Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:31 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list
> > >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8455] using poetry in the
> adult ed EL/Civics
> > >classroom
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >I am preparing a brief conference session for
> EL/civics teachers on using
> > >poetry in the EL/Civics classroom. I am looking
> for sample lesson plans 
> >or
> > >suggestions of poems to use with adult ed
> students in the ESL/Civics
> > >classroom. Specifically, I am looking for poems
> that touch on civics 
> >themes
> > >(civil rights, community involvement, famous
> Americans), and especially
> > >poems suitable for beginners in the ESL adult ed
> classroom.
> > >
> > >I have a large selection of poems by Langston
> Hughes, some from Carl
> > >Sandburg, and many Native American poems. I have
> also had luck with poems
> > >from the "Poetry in Motion" program and resources
> available from Teachers 
> >&
> > >Writers Collaborative. However, most of the
> articles I have found online
> > >discuss using poetry in the academic ESL
> classroom. I'd appreciate any
> > >suggestions for good poems or good poetry writing
> exercises for low-level
> > >adult learners. Has anyone had any successful
> experiences that they can
> > >share?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Hillary Gardner
> > >
> > >EL/Civics Instructor
> > >Center for Immigrant Education and Training
> > >LaGuardia Community College
> > >Long Island City, New York
> >
> >
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