Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id hB2I96m25811; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:09:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:09:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <000401c3b8ff$a3c2f4e0$1a01a8c0@cccchs.org> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Sylvan Rainwater" <sylvan@cccchs.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9667] Re: TABE and Adult LAS for ESL X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 1449 Lines: 35 So, what's the point of assessment? And how do we decide what to teach in our classes? What's driving what? It seems to me that unless we look at the outcomes we want to see for our students (or what they tell us they want to see for themselves) we are working in an artificial environment. Outcomes-based education looks at desired outcomes first (what do they need to know how to do out there in the "real world" that we are responsible for teaching them "in here"?), and then figures out what students can do to prove that they've learned how to do those things. Those performance tasks are real assessments. Of course, sometimes the performance task is that they can pass a test so they can move to another level <sigh>, but it's important for us all to keep in mind what the students really need in order to function out there in the real world, and to structure our classroom activities accordingly. ------- Sylvan Rainwater mailto:sylvan@cccchs.org Program Managaer Family Literacy Clackamas Co. Children's Commission / Head Start Oregon City, OR USA -----Original Message----- From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Kroeger, Miriam Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:20 AM <SNIP> In addition to validity and reliability, we also have to look at manageability, training and cost factors. <SNIP> We are certainly on the look out for assessments that better reflect what we are teaching in our classes.
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