Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h1RM26P11496; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:02:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:02:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <00c701c2dead$53c19820$6401a8c0@pp200> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Dottie Shattuck" <dottie@shattuck.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8677] Re: Writing in books X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 6974 Lines: 203 Susan -- the LEP classes are free (federal & state funds). Email me personally about the booklet; it's available. __ | \ |__ / ottie dottie@shattuck.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Ryan" <susanefl@hotmail.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8675] Re: Writing in books | Dottie--Do students in the Community College setting pay for their ESOL | classes? Is your book of worksheets only available for students there? | Susan | | | | | | | >From: "Dottie Shattuck" <dottie@shattuck.net> | >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov | >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> | >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8672] Re: Writing in books | >Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:07:25 -0500 (EST) | > | >Cathy -- | >For teachers in the community college where I teach, the CD-ROM with | >printable | >worksheets is an option only if the teacher is willing to print them on her | >own | >printer, at her expense. This semester, for the first time in the 6 yrs. | >I've | >been there, we each got a copy card (no free copiers) with 100 copies on it | >(for 2 | >classes). | > | >We ask students to buy their own texts & most do. We try to keep the costs | >as low | >as possible; this semester, my 2 "necessary" Intro books were $14.75 | >(total), | >with a 3rd book optional ($11.75). The dept. provides a class set of the | >3rd book | >& other more expensive books for higher level classes. | > | >One way I'm able to keep the cost to the students low is to use my own | >"teacher-made" worksheets/dialogs. I've put these into a booklet which is | >copied | >at campus printing & sold to the students through the campus bookstore. | >This | >semester, the booklet was $5.35 (including tax). | > | >Dottie Shattuck | >CPCC | >Charlotte, NC | >dottie@shattuck.net | > | >----- Original Message ----- | >From: "Cathy Shank" <cshank@access.k12.wv.us> | >To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> | >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:11 AM | >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8662] Re: Writing in books | > | > | >| | >| Do you have a budget for photocopies? Or is that a problem also? | >| Just curious to know if a text series that offered an accompanying CD | >| ROM that came with the Teacher edition and that had worksheets that you | >| could print off, would be attractive? | >| Cathy Shank | >| | >| | >| -----Original Message----- | >| From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Lorraine | >| Gardner | >| Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:03 AM | >| To: Multiple recipients of list | >| Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8661] Re: Writing in books | >| | >| This is definitely the ideal situation, I agree. However, in the | >| non-credit | >| community college ESL/ABE programs in which I have taught, the only way | >| students could have their own book was to buy it themselves. Some did, | >| but | >| the vast majority could not afford it. So if I wanted to give students | >| an | >| assignment to work on at home, I had to make photocopies. With the | >| budget | >| cuts going on nowadays, I imagine the situation will not change any time | >| | >| soon. It's not the ideal, but it's the situation that many of us have to | >| face. | >| | >| Lorraine Gardner | >| Academic/Workplace Skills Instructor | >| Omaha, NE | >| lad-oh@etop.org | >| | >| | >| At 09:42 AM 2/27/03 -0500, you wrote: | >| >Christina, | >| > | >| >I have to agree that students need the actual book. Having their own | >| >personal book gives a status of "learner" and nothing else accomplishes | >| >this in quite the same way. | >| > | >| >Donita Kaare | >| >Learning Skills Center Director | >| >Olney Central College | >| > | >| >-----Original Message----- | >| >From: Barbara Dorsett [mailto:barbsesl@worldpath.net] | >| >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:38 AM | >| >To: Multiple recipients of list | >| >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8659] Re: Writing in books | >| > | >| >Christina: Our adult ed. center was recently given an explanation of | >| >the | >| >copyright law, and the way I understand it is that as long as you | >| aren't | >| >copying a whole book, and what you do copy is only used in your | >| >classroom, | >| >you can make copies. Of course, that may mean some things in a book | >| >won't | >| >be used. Some of us just have the students number a sheet of paper and | >| >do | >| >exercises that way without writing in the book. Anyway, I know how you | >| >feel--we also have limited resources and have to keep a close eye on | >| >copy | >| >machine use. Any, yes, I do look for photocopiable materials, and I am | >| >finding more and more of them. I think publishers/authors are getting | >| >the | >| >idea of our plight in adult ed. My favorite text to get people started | >| >in | >| >English is called Collaborations: English in Our Lives (Lit. Level) by | >| >Donna | >| >Moss, Cathy Shank, and Lynda Terrill (Go, Lynda!) published by Heinle & | >| >Heinle. It has life stories written by actual learners (so your | >| learners | >| >can | >| >relate), great photographs, many different writing, listening, and | >| >speaking | >| >activities, and great ideas for little projects to do in class. The | >| >upper | >| >levels of this series have even more great ideas for extension | >| >activities. | >| >Barbara Dorsett, | >| >ESOL teacher and coordinator | >| >Dover Adult Learning Center | >| >Dover, NH | >| >----- Original Message ----- | >| >From: <Cleomathew@aol.com> | >| >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> | >| >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:50 AM | >| >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8654] Writing in books | >| > | >| > | >| > > Hello list, | >| > > | >| > > I was wondering how other people dealt with this problem. I teach at | >| >the | >| > > pre-literacy level with adult refugees. We can buy classroom sets of | >| >books, | >| > > but the books have to stay in the room and can't be written in. | >| >Students | >| >can | >| > > buy books, but many don't have the resources to do so. What have | >| other | >| > > programs done? Do you use books in your classroom? Do you look for | >| >copyable | >| > > materials? Are there any favorite books at the pre-literacy level? | >| > > | >| > > I like Longman ESL Literacy, but since we can't write in the books | >| and | >| >it | >| > > isn't a copyable book, I can't use it. I've ended up making a lot of | >| >my | >| >own | >| > > worksheets, and I use pictures from magazines and the Internet to | >| make | >| >board | >| > > games and card sets for basic foods, body parts, clothing, etc. | >| > > | >| > > Thanks, | >| > > Christina L. Mathew | >| > > DeKalb Tech. ESL Teacher, | >| > > Clarkston, Georgia | >| > > | >| | >| | > | > | | | _________________________________________________________________ | Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online | http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 | |
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