[NIFL-ESL:8561] RE: ESL and ESOL Conventions

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MARYANNE THORNDYCRAFT wrote:

>To add to the discussion on ESL vs. ESOL, where does ELL, a newer term
>yet, fit into all this?
>
>  
>
>>>>gbitterl@sdccd.cc.ca.us 02/19/03 04:12PM >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>ESL vs. ESOL? -  As an adult educator, we have been going back and
>forth on
>this issue for some time. Whereas ESOL is a more accurate term
>referring to
>our learners, programs still use ESL to refer to their programs. 
>Because
>ESL is the commonly used term, we decided to use that and not ESOL for
>our
>new publication "Standards for Adult Education ESL Programs."
>Gretchen Bitterlin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: WMFisher40@aol.com [mailto:WMFisher40@aol.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:19 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8524] ESL and ESOL Conventions
>
>
>       Can anyone help me to understand the conventional applications
>of ESL
>
>(English as a Second Language) and ESOL (English for Speakers of Other
>
>Languages)?  In my locality, I think ESL often refers to college
>programs
>and 
>ESOL often is used for elementary and high school programs.  I have
>seen 
>Adult Education English programs referred to as both ESOL and ESL.
>       Any clarification of these terms' uses would be appreciated! 
>How 
>would one explain these terms accurately to a non-native speaker of
>English?
>
>It would also be interesting to see if they are used differently in
>different 
>areas of the country.
>       Thanks,
>       Solveig Fisher
>
>
>  
>
Ells are synonomous with Leps..English Language Learners = Limited 
English Proficient

My teaching certificate is English to Speakers of Other Languages, but 
my master's program was TESL



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