There as been multiple instances on other lists where an "admin" or "developer" has been totally ignorant of any type of security practices. Cases of do as I will and roll with the punches. This occurs on all platforms of development. Freedom of implementation should also require some common sense. I like the content folders Ivan suggested. That would save people like me who are attention defficiet a more structured schema for their fresh systems ( and prob. save me a couple of hours on my own each build i have to do for myself ).   

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Jim McCullough

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:44:22 -0500, Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg2@cornell.edu> wrote:


> On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 18:26 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:04:26AM -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote:

> >

> > > Yes, and I'm sure that you can do a configuration

> > > of most application defaults that will be good

> > > enough to demo. Application developers tend to

> > > have their own ideas regarding data storage and

> > > it is a bad idea for a system developer to

> > > interfere with said application developer's

> > > freedom to inovate.

> >

> >  ... application developer's freedom to impose insecurity,

> >  through ignorance on the part of the app-developer, upon

> >  the users?

> >

> >  no offense intended: freedom in an abstract concept [e.g. "the american

> >  way"] _always_ has limits - laws / rules / policy is defined to confine

> >  that freedom, for good or worse.

> 

> I don't understand what this has to do with the application developer.

> This is a discussion of desktop applications that manipulate content

> relevant to the user - not internal settings. The settings that go

> under /home are another issue - that would require changing the app,

> but they don't have to be changed all at the same time.

> 

> All those apps *ask* you where to store the content. You create a

> document of some sort, and you have a choice of where to put it.

> This has nothing to do with the app developer. It's just another

> restriction imposed on the user. Hopefully there's a way to get

> away with it, while staying user-friendly. That's why I'm suggesting

> content folders be introduced and integrated w/ GNOME's Places

> menu, for example. That seems like a small first step to improving

> things... no?

> 

> Ok, some apps like gift don't ask where to save the content,

> but that's the exception and not the rule.

> 

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> Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg2@cornell.edu>

> Cornell University

> 

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