[NIFL-HEALTH:4640] Re: Firstfind.info resources on the web?

From: Andrew Pleasant (afp5@cornell.edu)
Date: Mon Feb 07 2005 - 20:53:39 EST


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Seems to be working well on my system.

Andrew Pleasant
Assistant Professor
Rutgers University


>Greetings, again,
>
>Bruce Carmel told us about a resource called firstfind.info which I am eager
>to see but we can't get the site to work. Has anyone else tried? The only
>item in the menu that worked today or on Saturday is the Local Resources.
>Can anyone fill us in on what's up?
>
>Audrey Riffenburgh, M.A.
>President, Riffenburgh & Associates
>P.O. Box 6670, Albuquerque, NM  87197
>Phone: (505) 345-1107 Fax: (505) 345-1104
>E-mail: ar@plainlanguageworks.com
>Specialists in Plain Language and Health Literacy since 1994
>and
>Principal & Founding Member, The Clear Language Group
>www.clearlanguagegroup.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bruce Carmel" <bcarmel@rocketmail.com>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-health@literacy.nifl.gov>
>Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:18 PM
>Subject: [NIFL-HEALTH:4633] Re: "Easy-to-read" resources on the web
>
>
>>  firstfind.info is probably worth a look for anyone
>>  looking for
>>  "easy-to-read" web info.  It's a library of
>>  non-commercial web sites selected by librarians. David
>>  Rosen, Susan Cowles, Maura Donnelly, Robin Osborne,
>>  and I helped train them to use more than grade level
>>  as a selection criterion. In fact we did not use grade
>>  level, but were more holistic.
>>  Bruce Carmel
>>  http://firstfind.info
>>
>>
>>  --- Audrey Riffenburgh <ar@plainlanguageworks.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>  Greetings, all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  In my ten years working in health literacy, I have
>>>  seen a huge increase in
>>>  materials on the web which are labeled as easy.
>>>  There are SOME easy-to-read
>>>  health resources on the web but many of the
>>>  materials labeled as
>>>  easy-to-read are still far too difficult for most of
>>>  the general public. As
>>>  you probably know, the average U.S. adult reads at
>>>  about 8th "grade" level.
>>>  Much of the material on the web that is labeled
>>>  "easy" or "plain language"
>>>  is written at much higher levels. (There are
>>>  inherent problems in using
>>>  grade levels to label adult readers but this gives
>>>  you a general idea of the
>>>  level of functioning vs. the literacy demands of
>>>  printed materials.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I recently analyzed the reading level of seven
>>>  materials on, or linked to,
>>>  MedlinePlus' "Easy-to-Read" area. The average
>>>  reading level was 11 and the
>>>  range was from 8 to 16. The results were similar for
>>>  the FDA's website where
>>>  they offer "easy" resources.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  The problem is in defining "easy." What is easy to
>>>  an average or lower
>>>  skilled reader is entirely different from what is
>>>  easy for those doing the
>>>  labeling. So I suggest great caution in using
>>>  materials labeled this way.
>>>  They may not achieve what you are hoping for or
>>>  assuming they will achieve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Plus, keep in mind that there are dozens of factors
>>>  beyond reading level
>>>  that affect a document's appropriateness. These
>>>  include organization, amount
>>>  of information, whether the information is what the
>>>  reader is looking for,
>>>  approach, tone, design, layout, cultural
>>>  appropriateness, and more. So even
>>>  if the reading level is at 7th or 8th "grade" level,
>>>  you cannot
>>>  automatically assume the piece is going to work for
>>>  the general public or
>>>  readers with limited literacy skills.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Yours for better health in the U.S.,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Audrey Riffenburgh, M.A.
>>>  President, Riffenburgh & Associates
>>>  P.O. Box 6670, Albuquerque, NM  87197
>>>  Phone: (505) 345-1107 Fax: (505) 345-1104
>>>  E-mail: ar@plainlanguageworks.com
>>>  Specialists in Plain Language and Health Literacy
>>>  since 1994
>>>  and
>>>  Principal & Founding Member, The Clear Language
>>>  Group
>>>  www.clearlanguagegroup.com
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: "Elizabeth Horvath" <Mhrsemh@omh.state.ny.us>
>>>  To: "Multiple recipients of list"
>>>  <nifl-health@literacy.nifl.gov>
>>>  Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:52 AM
>>>  Subject: [NIFL-HEALTH:4629] Re: Patient resources
>  >> for phone
>>>
>>>
>>>  > One place to start might be MedlinePlus, they have
>>>  a topic called Talking
>>>  > with your Doctor:
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>
>>  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/talkingwithyourdoctor.html
>>>  >
>>>  > I did not review the materials listed there for
>>>  reading level, but you can
>>>  > check the links and see if they have easy-to-read
>>>  materials on the
>>>  > individual websites.
>>>  >
>>>  > If you don't currently use MedlinePlus, do some
>>>  exploring. If you click on
>>>  > "health topics, there will be a button that takes
>>>  you to "Easy to Read,"
>>>  > and you can check out the easy materials by topic.
>>>  Unfortunately, "Talking
>>>  > with your Doctor" is not among to choices.
>>>  >
>>>  > Beti
>>>  >>>> mburton@nmdp.org 02/03/05 02:37PM >>>
>>>  > Hi all -
>>>  >
>>>  > I am having a difficult time locating general
>>>  information that helps
>>>  > patients advocate for themselves over the phone.
>>>  Getting the resource
>>>  > information to patients is the relatively easy
>>>  part.  It's getting them
>>>  > to actually *call* and connect with the suggested
>>>  resource that is the
>>>  > real challenge.
>>>  >
>>>  > I've found lots and lots of stuff to help
>>>  healthcare providers
>>>  > communicate with their patients over the phone,
>>>  but nothing to help
>>>  > patients communicate with their providers.  I do
>>>  have a material that
>>>  > lists specific questions for patients to ask their
>>>  health insurance to
>>>  > determine their coverage limits and what they need
>>>  to write down, but it
>>>  > isn't generalizable to a broader context.
>>>  >
>>>  > Does anyone have something that could essentially
>>>  "coach" patients with
>>>  > how to make an effective phone call to a
>>>  resource/organization and how
>>>  > to document that conversation?  Maybe something
>>>  similar to the "AskMe3"
>>>  > brochure?
>>>  >
>>>  > Thanks,
>>>  >
>>>  > Martha Burton Santibanez
>>>  > Outreach Specialist, Office of Patient Advocacy
>>>  > National Marow Donor Program
>>>  > www.marrow.org
>>>  > 1 (888) 999-6743 x8336
>>>  > 1 (612) 627-8195 fax
>>>  >
>>>  > Beti Horvath, MLS
>>>  > Library Services
>>>  > Mid-Hudson Forensic Psychiatric Center
>>>  > New Hampton NY 10958
>>>  > mhrsemh@omh.state.ny.us
>>>  > 845-374-3171x3625
>>>  > Fax 845-374-3171x4625
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
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