• Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Smalley" <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil> To: <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov> Cc: "Russell Coker" <russell@coker.com.au>; "Daniel J Walsh" <dwalsh@redhat.com>; <selinux-dev@tresys.com> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:33 AM Subject: RE: Now that SELinux supports booleans should we replace tunableswith booleans?

> On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 08:30, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > Dan has raised the issue of how to handle policy reloads when using
> > booleans, as a policy reload will reset the boolean values to the
> > compile-time default settings. We could certainly extend load_policy to
> > also set the booleans based on the same configuration file used at boot
> > time, but that will leave open a window between the policy reload and
> > the setting of the booleans where the active policy will fall back to
> > the compile-time defaults. That could break running processes or create
> > a window of vulnerability, depending on whether the compile-time
> > defaults are more secure or less secure than the configuration file
> > settings. We could have the policy Makefile patch the boolean default
> > settings based on the configuration file, so that a policy rebuild would
> > change the compile-time defaults to match the desired settings, but that
> > requires policy sources, which may not be available (e.g. the policy
> > reload may have been triggered by a binary policy update, and the end
> > system may not have policy sources installed). Thoughts?
>
> Actually, it would be easy to create a simple utility that patches a
> binary policy to change the boolean default values, so that would be a
> possibility.
>

Just changing the booleans isn't enough - you would also need to evaluate all of the expressions and set rules to active/inactive. If you were planning to take the same approach as the user management tool that you just did, this should be trivial. The other option is that the reading code could be changed to evaluate all of the expressions after loading a policy so that changes to the booleans would become active, but that would obviously require kernel changes.

For the reload case, the only other idea that I can think of is to have security_load_policy copy the current boolean states to the newly loaded policy for booleans that are shared between the policies. I'm not certain this is a good idea - and you probably want to have a way to disable the behavior - but the advantage is that it allows booleans to be persistent while a machine is running without requiring them to be persistent across reboots. It seems to me that persistance across reboots is actually a separate case and I am concerned about administrator confusion about when a change to a boolean is temporary and when it is persistent. I agree, however, that it is important to have some safe mechanisms for making the boolean states stay during reload and reboots.

Karl

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> Stephen Smalley <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil>
> National Security Agency
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