[LearningDisabilities 1564] Re: Transition- militaryTchalla Douglas tchallad at darlington.k12.sc.usWed Nov 14 12:10:44 EST 2007
I do not think that there's any accomodations for LD students to take the ASVAB. The military is pretty much cut and dry. I was once in the Army Reserves and I know for a fact there's no accomodations for LD privates during training. Everyone is expected to be able to perform at all times. Our motto was "Suck it up and drive on". Another thing, the recruiters are not always truthful. They tell these kids what they want to hear to get them to enlist. Once the individual is off to training, you have no more contact with your recruiter and besides, there's nothing the recruiter can do for you once you are in. I suggest that before a teacher/transition specialist (myself included) assist a student towards the military, everyone needs to do their homework. Again, do not rely on the recruiters to tell you the truth. T'challa Y. Douglas, MA, GCDF Transition Specialist Darlington County Adult Education 100 Magnolia Street Darlington, SC 29532 843-398-2598 (phone) 843-395-8944 (fax) tchallad at darlington.k12.sc.us >>> "Gassman, Jean" <jgassman at iel.spokane.edu> 11/13/07 7:05 PM >>> Thank you for the answers to some of my questions.. ________________________________ From: learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Kaare, Donita Sent: Tue 11/13/2007 2:05 PM To: The Learning Disabilities Discussion List Subject: [LearningDisabilities 1562] Re: Transition- military We have had long discussions with army personnel over accommodations on the ASVAB. To the best of my knowledge and our previous experience. There are no accommodations granted for the ASVAB test. Donita Kaare Learning Skills Center Director Olney Central College -----Original Message----- From: learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Arlyn Roffman Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 8:50 AM To: The Learning Disabilities Discussion List Subject: [LearningDisabilities 1531] Transition- military Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt asked: Arlyn, how would you help a student who wants to enter the military to transition? Are there specific requirements that LD students need to consider (other than passing the physical)? Does the military even accept LD students? Are there accommodations in the military? Hi Katherine- I don't have a definitive answer about LD in the military, but not long ago I was at a meeting in Washington and there was a representative there from Hanscom Air Force Base in MA. Since it was a meeting about transition and LD, I'm guessing her position is to provide some sort of support once they're in. I just did some Googling and came up with the fact that one does not have to have a high school diploma to enlist, but a GED is necessary if there's no diploma. Also, there's a test, called the ASVAB, one has to take. It's a multiple choice test with 200 questions.One has three hours to complete ten short tests. The ASVAB tests cover General Science, Arithmetic Reasoning, Word Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, Numerical Operations, Coding Speed, Auto and Shop Information, Mathematics Knowledge, Mechanical Comprehension and Electronics Information.No one passes or fails the ASVAB. However, to be considered for enlistment in the Army, one has to score at least a 31. Scores are provided on a report called the ASVAB Student Results Sheet, with additional information to help understand what they mean. Seems to me, with your student you would set a goal to narrow down which branch of the services is of interest, then contact a rep to ask questions about accommodations on the test AND in training for those who DO get in. There are sample questions on the web, so you could have the student try those and see whether it seems too daunting or actually approachable. If the latter is the case, you could help the student prepare for the test. Beyond that, I think it would make a lot of sense to set another goal of interviewing a carefully chosen enlistee (perhaps one with an LD) about the realities of life in the services, help your student identify which pieces might be particularly challenging, and - back to my basic bottom-line transition goals again - help him/her learn how to self-disclose and self-advocate for any needed accommodations. The structure of the services might be very helpful for some with LD. I'd be interested in hearing from others on the list who have more experience with students who've gone this route (or who've tried and failed). Arlyn ---------------------------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Learning Disabilities mailing list LearningDisabilities at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities Email delivered to kaared at iecc.edu ---------------------------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Learning Disabilities mailing list LearningDisabilities at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities Email delivered to jgassman at iel.spokane.edu
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