[Assessment 1004] Re: GED Discussion - what you need to know!Wendy Quinones teacherwendyq at gmail.comFri Oct 26 17:23:19 EDT 2007
Actually, all of the GED tests are reading -- even math for the most part. I think Mary Lynn is right on! On 10/26/07, Mary Lynn Simons <macsimoin at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Three of the GED tests are reading. If the teacher is talking a lot and if > students are talking a lot, students are not reading. Reading is a > skill. The reason most people read poorly is that they don't read much. The > reason people type poorly is that they don't type; the reason people do not > play the guitar well is that they don't play, and on and on and on. I say, > "Shut up and read." > > > > > ________________________________> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:39:46 -0400> > From: tborge at bhcc.mass.edu> To: assessment at nifl.gov> Subject: [Assessment > 1002] Re: GED Discussion - what you need to know!>> When we are referring to > creativity do we mean teaching critical thinking skills which once our > students know how to think in a critical thinking way they will be > successful in achieving their education and other life goals. However, just > like K-12 education, adult education is captured on the high stakes spinning > wheel of accountability which stifles creativity and teachers teach to the > test.> Toni Borge> BHCC> Adult Education & Transitions Program> Boston, MA> > ________________________________> From: assessment-bounces at nifl.gov[mailto: > assessment-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of shirley ledet> Sent: Thursday, > October 25, 2007 4:30 PM> To: The Assessment Discussion List> Subject: > [Assessment 1001] Re: GED Discussion - what you need to know!> I agree that > creativity is not the enemy of success on standardized test. We need look no > further then those who have been successful on any type of test. We tend to > use terms like natuarally gifted, just smart, etc. If you speak to these > folks they are well rounded, enjoy reading, mvies, theater, they tend to use > terms like "I don't know, I just know stuff." Researchers have found that > this may be the reason for disparity between ethnicity. I believe there is > more disparity between socio economic background then ethnicity. Exposure to > the arts, banking industry, faculty, medicine, legal issues as part of your > everyday life tends to offer more of an advantage when testing then someone > whose only exposure is to go to school and study hard. My students > participate in a quite a few creative projects and those that "get into it" > tend to do better in all subjects. Those that feel it is a waste of time and > they just want to "study for the GED" are generally frustrated when "all of > their hard work does not pay off like they would like." Creativity also > leads to retention; especially those activities that have to be completed in > increments. Let's bring on more creativity!> Shirley Ledet> GED Instructor> > NHC-Carver> djrosen at comcast.net wrote:> Colleagues,> I am a proponent of > creativity in adult literacy education -- indeed in all education. As Marc > Tucker, President of the National Center for Education and the Economy, has > said in a presention recently to the National Commission on Adult Literacy, > http://www.caalusa.org/video/choices.html , the U.S. education system -- > and he includes adult education, cannot be competitive without high academic > standards AND creativity.> But many GED teachers and administrators believe > that their students will not pass the GED unless they focus on skills and > knowledge needed to pass the test, that creativity is a "distraction" and a > time-waster. (Many K-12 teachers, administrators or policy makers also > believe creativity distracts from passing high stakes tests.) I hate to be > the one to raise this issue, but it's the key question on the minds of many > GED teachers and administrators, so I invite the panelists to address it.> > Is creativity a distraction or is it essential for success? Why?> David J. > Rosen> djrosen at comcast.net> -------------- Original message > ----------------------> From: "Marie Cora">> Hi everyone,>>>> We've had > several new subscribers over the past day, and so I wanted to>> give a quick > reminder where you can get the information on this>> discussion. For the > full announcement, information on guests, and>> suggested resources go > to:>>>> > http://www.nifl.gov/lincs/discussions/assessment/07creativityGED.html>>>> > If you missed the posts from yesterday - there were a couple - you can>> > catch up in the archives at:>> > http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/assessment/2007/date.html>>>> Please post > your questions and also your own experiences to share now!>>>> Thanks!!>>>> > Marie Cora>> Assessment Discussion List Moderator>>>>>>>>>> Marie Cora>> > marie.cora at hotspurpartners.com>> NIFL Assessment Discussion List > Moderator>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/assessment>>>>> From: > "Marie Cora"> To:> Subject: [Assessment 942] GED Discussion - what you need > to know!> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:43:14 +0000> Hi everyone,> We've had > several new subscribers over the past day, and so I wanted to give a quick > reminder where you can get the information on this discussion. 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