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[ProfessionalDevelopment 2261] Re: Whatdo wemeanbystudentinvolvement and critical thinking?Andrea Wilder andreawilder at comcast.netFri Jul 11 13:06:34 EDT 2008
Everyone-- Have we defined "critical thinking?" I've gone over most of the posts, and the authors cover a wide range of behaviors that they are calling "critical thinking." I, too, sometimes swallow an argument hook line and sinker. I can get swept away by someone else's argument unless I have thought through the problem or issue very carefully--anticipating the questions or assertions from others. Andrea On Jul 11, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Bonnie Odiorne wrote: > Good example, Jeff. I had a friend with dizziness and that's > exactly what the high-priced tests and clinics told him to do. Your > pose made me think also of those of low literacy or language > ability who somehow manage to function quite well: they have become > "survival-smart"--if there is such an intelligence--and taken cues > from their environment to adapt their behaviors. > > Bonnie > > Post University > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Alpha Computer Training and COnsulting <alphact at eastlink.ca> > To: The Adult Literacy Professional Development Discussion List > <professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:52:33 AM > Subject: [ProfessionalDevelopment 2259] Re: Whatdo > wemeanbystudentinvolvement and critical thinking? > > Hi Cynthia and Philip, > > Good thought provoking messages. Your comments made me think of my > wife. > She had a dizziness problem for years that she could not seem to > get fixed. > But what she did was amazing, since I think it relates to this > discussion. > She became a master at avoiding movements that brought about her > dizziness. > She unknowingly used critical thinking to avoid her problem. This > makes me > wonder how others unknowingly use critical thinking to avoid issues > in their > lives. This could involve reading, writing and other skills > necessary to > perform tasks. People can unknowingly, through the own critical > thinking, > get around with their skill set and function in society. These > people have > get critical thinking skills, that have enabled them to be > successful in > areas where we could not imagine. People need to give themselves more > credit for what they can do than what they can not do! It makes me > wonder > how these skills came about. > > Jeff Brown > Alpha Computer Training and Consulting > (902)956-2600 > E-mail: info at alphacomputer.ca > www.alphacomputer.ca > > > -----Original Message----- > From: professionaldevelopment-bounces at nifl.gov > [mailto:professionaldevelopment-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Cynthia > Peters > Sent: July-11-08 11:18 AM > To: professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov > Subject: [ProfessionalDevelopment 2258] Re: Whatdo > wemeanbystudentinvolvement and critical thinking? > > Philip -- I think what you're raising is important. Can you share any > strategies you've used to help students feel comfortable expressing > what > they know about the world? > > Also, do you have any thoughts on how to do PD in a way that develops > *teachers'* critical thinking skills. I do believe it's a skill for > all > of us to be honing all the time. > > Cynthia > > > >>> "Anderson, Philip" <Philip.Anderson at fldoe.org> 07/10/08 5:09 PM > >>> > Good points, Andy. I appreciate your response. I think I should have > said that their critical thinking skills lead them to hide what they > know about the world - it is a strategy that has kept them safe in > situations that they felt may pose danger. > > What I think we might need to include in PD is the fact that adult > ELLs, > no matter their level, often have good critical thinking skills. Some > teachers may at times perceive the low level adult ELL students as > persons who are underdeveloped in their critical thinking skills, and > not, as you said, the same as they are, people who do have critical > thinking skills even though they may apply them inconsistently, and > who > could perhaps benefit from thinking in new and varied ways. > > > CONTACT INFORMATION > Philip Anderson > Adult ESOL Program > Florida Department of Education > Tel (850) 245-9450 > > > > Please take a few minutes to provide feedback on the quality of > service > you received from our staff. The Department of Education values your > feedback as a customer. Commissioner of Education Dr. Eric J. Smith is > committed to continuously assessing and improving the level and > quality > of services provided to you.Simply use the link below. Thank you in > advance for completing the survey. > > > http://data.fldoe.org/cs/default.cfm? > staff=Philip.Anderson at fldoe.org|17:04:0 > 4%20Thu%2010%20Jul%202008 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: professionaldevelopment-bounces at nifl.gov > [mailto:professionaldevelopment-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andy > Nash > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:16 PM > To: professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov > Subject: [ProfessionalDevelopment 2253] Re: Whatdo > wemeanbystudentinvolvement and critical thinking? > > Hmm, I see it more as a matter of being inconsistent in where and > how we > use those critical thinking skills. I consider myself a pretty > critical > thinker, but there are many times I'll hear someone else questioning > something that I bought hook, line, and sinker - I didn't think at all > critically about it. I believe that adult students are the same, which > is why it's useful to invite critical thinking in new and varied > areas. > Andy Nash > > >>> "Anderson, Philip" <Philip.Anderson at fldoe.org> 07/10/08 3:46 PM > >>> > > What I am getting at here is that it may be important to recognize > that > adult ELLs brim with critical thinking skills, but they also have > developed a (survival?) technique for hiding these skills from those > they perceive to be in authority and have more "school knowledge" than > they have. Our professional development system may need to be sure to > prepare teachers for working successfully with these students. > > CONTACT INFORMATION > Philip Anderson > Adult ESOL Program > Florida Department of Education > Tel (850) 245-9450 > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > National Institute for Literacy > Adult Literacy Professional Development mailing list > professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov > > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/professionaldevelopment > > Professional Development section of the Adult Literacy Education Wiki > http://wiki.literacytent.org/index.php/ > Adult_Literacy_Professional_Devel > opment > ---------------------------------------------------- > National Institute for Literacy > Adult Literacy Professional Development mailing list > professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov > > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/professionaldevelopment > > Professional Development section of the Adult Literacy Education Wiki > http://wiki.literacytent.org/index.php/ > Adult_Literacy_Professional_Developme > nt > > ---------------------------------------------------- > National Institute for Literacy > Adult Literacy Professional Development mailing list > professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov > > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/professionaldevelopment > > Professional Development section of the Adult Literacy Education Wiki > http://wiki.literacytent.org/index.php/ > Adult_Literacy_Professional_Developme > nt > > ---------------------------------------------------- > National Institute for Literacy > Adult Literacy Professional Development mailing list > professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov > > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/professionaldevelopment > > Professional Development section of the Adult Literacy Education Wiki > http://wiki.literacytent.org/index.php/ > Adult_Literacy_Professional_Development > ---------------------------------------------------- > National Institute for Literacy > Adult Literacy Professional Development mailing list > professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov > > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/professionaldevelopment > > Professional Development section of the Adult Literacy Education Wiki > http://wiki.literacytent.org/index.php/ > Adult_Literacy_Professional_Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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