Pax all!
 
I have found that most students do not need to be introduced to ALL
sounds, but only the select few that are not in their L1. And by far,
the most common problem sounds are the short vowels. This is a serious,
long-term problem for ELLs, but I don't feel it is prohibitive to
learning English.
 
For those sounds which are more immediately serious (i.e. "th"), only
personal, one-on-one teaching will do. It is true that ELLs must be
taught to "hear" those sounds, and I have found minimal pairs to be the
best option for that through metacognition.
 
However, I have also found for those students from southeast Asia, they
have the added problem of breathing and talking, as their languages use
air differently to speak than most.
 
Hope that helps!
 
Martin E. Senger
Adult ESL Teacher
GECAC / The R. Benjamin Wiley Learning Center
Erie, Pa
814-490-8510
 
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:09 PM
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Subject: [ProfessionalDevelopment 2513] Response to Wayne Hall's
Question
 
Hello,
 
Here is a response from Glenn Young, subscriber to the Learning
Disabilities Discussion List:
The Orton Gillingham method of instruction starts with the concept that
one need to first gain phonemic awareness skills --- actually be able to
hear and distinguish the actual sound ...  this concept can translate
over (no pun intended) to ESL issue even for populations who begin with
a different set of phonemic skills (as do most peoples who do not have
English as their initial language) 
 
But I am not sure what you mean directly by "phonemic listening skills"
since if the person does not have the phonemic subset of sounds
associated with the new language, I am not sure how they can listen for
the sound ... Do they not have to first be "aware" of the sound for
which they are trying to listen?   Therefore, is not the first issue
introducing and teaching and ingraining the sound itself?
 
So ... depending upon the time factor involved, since Orton methods can
be very time consuming ... the primary issue of first addressing the
phonemic awareness issues found in Orton seems to meet your needs ...
 
 
 
Glenn Young
CSLD
530 Auburn Ave
Buffalo NY 14222
Cell 703-864-3755
Phone/Fax 716-882-2842
website: glennyoungcsld.com
 
 
 
Rochelle Kenyon, Ed.D.
Moderator, NIFL/LINCS Learning Disabilities Discussion List
Center for Literacy Studies at the University of Tennessee
RKenyon721 at aol.com

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