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[Assessment 910] Re: September welcome!Mary Jane Jerde mjjerdems at yahoo.comThu Sep 6 09:38:42 EDT 2007
This is a good on-going topic. In my experience, ESL students either have the means to take the advanced grammar and pronunciation courses, etc., or they are pressed to get the diploma. If they can stay in school at all. In my experience, a transition class is an ideal. The reality has been that I attempt to ground them in the basics of English especially verbs,simple past and present, continuous, both kinds of future, a few modals, negatives. Then I encourage them that when they enter an ABE or similar class, they will still be responsible to maintain and develop their grammar and other English skills. It will not be the teacher's job to pour it into them or spend class time coaching them or having peer coaching the way that we can in ESL class. They have to be their own advocates on this. Mary Jane Jerde Donna Chambers <donnaedp at cox.net> wrote: Clean Clean DocumentEmail MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} Marie and All, Happy September! I must admit that I have not read all the postings on the listserv and so if the discussion I am suggesting has already happened, please forgive me. I would like to suggest a discussion designing a system that efficiently moves ESOL learners through to ABE and ASE. For several years now my experience has been with non-native English learners who want to receive their high school diploma or GED. They get "stuck" in ESOL classes that do not provide an integrated curriculum that would allow them to move ahead. How can we make the smooth transition from ESOL to ABE and how can we in Adult Education facilitate the learner through a pipeline? This summer I had the wonderful opportunity to attend a number of professional development summer sessions that focused on assessment. These sessions were offered to K12 teachers and administrators, but I found everything relevant to adult learners as well. Competency-based assessment is my specialty, but I was introduced to the idea of formative vs. summative assessment and how both guide instruction in the classroom. Understanding assessment would allow ESOL learners to work along side native English speakers with teaching and learning being focused on the skills that need to be learned. I believe this would make a great discussion topic. Let me know if I can help. Donna Chambers From: Marie Cora To: Assessment at nifl.gov Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: [Assessment 906] September welcome! Dear Colleagues, Hello! Welcome to September! Welcome to those List Members who have been here for a while, and welcome to new subscribers as well. If you are new to the List, please introduce yourself and let us know why you have subscribed to the Assessment Discussion List what topics would you like to see focused on here? And to veteran subscribers what is on your minds these days? What topics of interest would you like to see discussed? I have in the works a couple of guest discussions that will take place this fall one focused on GED and another focused on using data in the classroom as a follow up to our discussion last April on using data for program improvement (see below for info on accessing this discussion in the archives). I would really like to have something focused on ESOL any suggestions? I have a few ideas but want to hear from you. For those of you who are new, let me share these List Tips, they can be very helpful. Also new folks may want to scroll down to read the information on using the Archives so that you can see what types of discussions we have had in the past. Thanks so much looking forward to hearing from you and having some great discussions here! Marie Cora Assessment Discussion List Moderator Discussion List Tips Here are some suggestions for maximizing your experience as a List Member, both in terms of getting the most out of the content, as well as minimizing the time and effort involved in following the Discussion List. 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