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[Assessment 499] Re: FW: [ProfessionalDevelopment 526] ESOL to ABE TransitionMary Jane Jerde mjjerdems at yahoo.comThu Sep 14 10:19:06 EDT 2006
I suspect that we're differing in verbiage and not classroom technique. I taught pre-literacy to ESL students for seven years. These people needed it in an ESL context because they didn't have the vocabulary to deal with the normal native English speaker vocabulary in the ABE curriculum. These were usually women from east Africa or Arabic speaking cultures, to generalize further, students who had no or little experience in schooling ever and who did not speak English. Sometimes those from west Africa, or with some strong English background, were able to attend an ABE class. Frequently even they spent time in the conversational ESL classes gathering the vocabulary and experience to prepare for the ABE class. The classes were all taught by instructors who were well prepared to teach. The students needed to be prepared to learn in an ABE environment. Mary Jane Jerde andresmuro at aol.com wrote: The logical process should be ABE to ESL. First, students acquire basic literacy in L1. Then, you can transition them into ESL and they will do very well. If you try to do the opposite, it will be very frustrating for students and teachers. I understand that there are things that make this process very difficult, e.g. too many languages, people from oral societies, etc. However, if at all possible, the process should be from ABE to ESL. Andres Please take a look at my artwork: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html -----Original Message----- From: marie.cora at hotspurpartners.com To: Assessment at nifl.gov Sent: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 6:31 AM Subject: [Assessment 495] FW: [ProfessionalDevelopment 526] ESOL to ABE Transition Colleagues, This email query is from the Professional Development Discussion List. What are your thoughts and comments? Marie Cora Assessment Discussion List Moderator *********************** Professional Development Colleagues: I'm wondering what policies and supports your states are putting into place to assist programs in transitioning their ESOL students into ABE, now that the cut point for NRS level six has been lowered. In New York City, some programs are creating special classes for students who score above 540 on the BEST Plus, but still need to improve their oral proficiency. These students will be tested on the TABE and designated ABE for NRS purposes, but their classes will be comprised only of non-native English speakers and will incorporate much more oral language development than a typical ABE class. What are some other strategies you might suggest? Ira Yankwitt, Director NYC Regional Adult Education Network Literacy Assistance Center 32 Broadway, 10th Floor NY, NY 10004 212-803-3356 ---------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Assessment mailing list Assessment at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/assessment --------------------------------- Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Assessment mailing list Assessment at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/assessment --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/assessment/attachments/20060914/54879164/attachment.html
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