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[Assessment 488] Re: GED and College AdmissionsBrian, Dr Donna J G djgbrian at utk.eduThu Sep 7 10:10:49 EDT 2006
Here's a very relevant article from the New York Times on the "readiness" of students for college work and remedial classes. Donna djgbrian at utk.edu <http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/02/education/02college.html?ex=115786080 0&en=d5cfaff8cdeb31bb&ei=5070&emc=eta1> -----Original Message----- From: assessment-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:assessment-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Albanese, Donna Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:51 PM To: The Assessment Discussion List Subject: [Assessment 484] Re: GED and College Admissions Getting students "college ready" has been an issue for years, particularly not knowing exactly what college ready means from state to state or from college to college. In Ohio, we are crosswalking college readiness standards with our ABLE standards to identify the gaps and make needed revisions. I'd be interested to hear from states or programs that are currently involved in or have completed this process. Donna Albanese, Consultant Ohio Department of Education Adult Basic and Literacy Education 25 South Front Street, Stop 614 Columbus, Ohio 43215-4183 Phone: 614-466-5015 Fax: 614-728-8470 e-mail: donna.albanese at ode.state.oh.us -----Original Message----- From: assessment-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:assessment-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Crawford, June Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:45 AM To: Assessment at nifl.gov Subject: [Assessment 482] GED and College Admissions For many years prior to my employment with the federal government, I directed a university learning center that offered developmental classes, ran the university's placement testing program, and offered tutoring, ESL classes, and services for those with learning disabilities and other physical disabilities. Over a 20 year period I saw the test results for at least 15,000 students and I can say without any doubt that having a GED was NOT a guarantee that an entering student had the reading, writing, or math skills that were required as the basic skills before attempting college-level classes. We saw many adults enter college with a GED who had large gaps between what we anticipated would be the skill level of high school graduates and those who just passed high school with minimum skill levels. And, unfortunately, we saw many of them leave college in academic difficulty - and with debts for tuition. (I was the person, in the end, who interviewed all these people and had to send the final letters of dismissal.) Adults who wish to go on for more education need to be advised that having a piece of paper that says you have a high school diploma is not sufficient. There are basic skills and then there are more advanced skills and the person who will be successful at the college level has to be able to perform competently from the beginning. Just as about 1/3 of high school graduates are not ready for the level of work required at a college, the GED does not adequately prepare most students. If we could connect jobs to skill levels and make this clear to students and parents and employers and employees, this would be a real boon to the American economy and school system. Perhaps it is time to consider levels of readiness and make it clear to high school students and to adults in adult education that there are varying levels depending on the end goal. People need to know how they need to be able to perform for the goals they set for themselves. Paper just doesn't do it; performance is the key to success. June Crawford ------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Assessment mailing list Assessment at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/assessment ------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Assessment mailing list Assessment at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/assessment
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