Dianna - 
   
  Isn't there a testing instrument used in the Ohio public school system for (and with) this age group that would be more appropriate than the Teaching Adults Beginning Education tool (TABE)? If reading level is being measured, how do the schools gain that data? In my opinion, these kids are far from adults - even if they are entering the job market.  
   
  I agree with Maria that it should be questioned whether or not the TABE would provide valid scores when it's designed to be used with adults. If your collegue's study is going to be worth anything at all, the tool used to determine reading levels should be one designed to work with that age group. 
   
  With kids this age (particularly if they are having difficulties in school),  I even wonder whether or not timed testing is the way to *get* accurate data.  Does the public school system have a different type of evaluation that determines grade level than TABE for special education students?
   
  Nancy Hansen
  adult literacy administrator
  Sioux Falls Area Literacy Council
  sfallsliteracy at yahoo.com
  Sioux Falls, SD

Dianna Baycich <dbaycich at literacy.kent.edu> wrote:
        
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  The reason I asked the question this time is for a collegue of mine who needs an instrument to determine reading level for a study she is doing. She wanted to use the instrument that was commonly used in Ohio. She was originally going to work with adults but had to change her study to use youth. So... a bit more explanation for why I was asking.
   
  Thank you to everyone who has responded so far. I hope to hear more.
  Dianna
    
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From: assessment-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:assessment-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Marie Cora
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:04 PM
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Subject: [Assessment] TABE questions


    Hi all,
   
  I also just wanted to note that the TABE was not normed on people the age that Dianna inquires after – 13/14 year olds.
   
  So wouldn’t this make the TABE invalid for use with young teens?
   
  For what purpose would the TABE be used with people so young?
   
  marie cora
  Assessment Discussion List Moderator
   

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