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          1                      UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
          2                    NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
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          4                 BRIEFING ON SELECTED ISSUES RELATED
          5               TO PROPOSED RESTART OF MILLSTONE UNIT 3
          6                                 ***
          7                           PUBLIC MEETING
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         10                             Nuclear Regulatory Commission
         11                             Commission Briefing Room
         12                             Room 1F-16
         13                             One White Flint North
         14                             11555 Rockville Pike
         15                             Rockville, Maryland  
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         17                             Friday, May 1, 1998
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         19              The Commission met in open session, pursuant to
         20    notice, at 8:30 a.m., the Honorable SHIRLEY A. JACKSON,
         21    Chairman of the Commission, presiding.
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          1    COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
          2              SHIRLEY A. JACKSON,  Chairman
          3              GRETA J. DICUS, Commissioner
          4              NILS J. DIAZ, Commissioner
          5              EDWARD McGAFFIGAN, JR., Commissioner
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          7    STAFF AND PRESENTERS SEATED AT THE COMMISSION TABLE:
          8              MIKE MORRIS, Chairman, President and CEO,
          9                Northeast Utilities
         10              BRUCE KENYON, President and CEO, Northeast Nuclear
         11                Energy Company
         12              MIKE BROTHERS, Vice President, Nuclear Operations
         13              MARTIN BOWLING, Vice President, Technical Services
         14              JOHN STREETER, Vice President, Nuclear Oversight
         15              DAVID AMERINE, Vice President, Human Services
         16              JOHN GRIFFIN, Deputy Team Leader, Little Harbor
         17                Consultants
         18              JOHN BECK, President, Little Harbor Consultants
         19              JOHN GRIFFIN, Deputy Team Leader
         20              BILLIE GARDE, Consultant
         21              THOMAS SHERIDAN, First Selectman
         22              JOHN MARKOWICZ, Vice Chairman
         23              KEVIN A. MCCARTHY, Director, Air Quality
         24                Monitoring and Radiation
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          1    STAFF AND PRESENTERS SEATED AT THE COMMISSION TABLE:
          2    (continued)
          3              DEBORAH KATZ, President, Citizens' Awareness
          4                Network
          5              ROSEMARY BASSILAKIS
          6              SUSAN PERRY-LUXTON, Citizens Regulatory Commission
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          8              CAPTAIN GUY MENDENHALL, Citizens Regulatory
          9                Commission 
         10              PAUL BLANCHE, Consultant
         11              L. JOSEPH CALLAN, EDO
         12              SAMUEL J. COLLINS, Director, NRR
         13              DR. WILLIAM TRAVERS, Director, Special Projects
         14                Office, NRR
         15              WAYNE LANNING, Deputy Director for Inspections,
         16                SPO, NRR
         17              PHILLIP McKEE, Deputy Director for Licensing and
         18                Oversight, SPO, NRR
         19              EUGENE IMBRO, Deputy Director for ICAVP, SPO, NRR
         20              DAVID A. LOCHBAUM, Nuclear Safety Engineer
         21              HARRY BLANK, Millstone
         22              DAVE COLLINS, Millstone
         23              GARY F. VERDONE, Millstone
         24              MIKE MEEHAN, Millstone
         25              JOSEPH M. AMARELLO, Spokesperson
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          1    STAFF AND PRESENTERS SEATED AT THE COMMISSION TABLE:
          2    (continued)
          3              JERILYN M. DUEFRENE, Secretary
          4              RICHARD L. DeBERNARDO, JR., Treasurer
          5              DONA L. HARRINGTON-BURNS, Member
          6              DONALD W. DEL CORE, SR., Millstone
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          1                        P R O C E E D I N G S
          2                                                     [8:30 a.m.]
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good morning, ladies and
          4    gentlemen.
          5              This meeting is the first of what is anticipated
          6    will be two Commission meetings to assess readiness for
          7    restart of the Millstone Unit 3 plant.
          8              The NRC staff has provided the Commission their
          9    assessment of three issues related to the restart assessment
         10    plan for Millstone Unit 3.  One is licensee progress to
         11    establish a safety-conscious work environment and an
         12    effective employee concerns program; two, licensee
         13    improvements to oversight and quality assurance; and three,
         14    licensee resolution of non-restart-related issues and items,
         15    commonly called backlog management.  The staff has evaluated
         16    these issues to be acceptable to support restart of Unit 3.
         17              The Commission will hear presentations today from
         18    Northeast Utilities or Northeast Nuclear.  The contractor
         19    associated with the licensee's employee concerns program,
         20    Little Harbor Consultants, public officials, and interest
         21    groups and the NRC staff.  This will be a long day and in
         22    the interest of maintaining our schedule, I will keep my
         23    opening comments short, but to provide background, Millstone
         24    Unit 1 has been shutdown for over 29 months, Units 2 and 3
         25    for approximately 26 months.  All three of the Millstone
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          1    units were placed on the NRC's watchlist in January 1996. 
          2    The units were recategorized as Category 3 plants in June
          3    1996.  This action necessitates Commission approval for
          4    restart of each of the units.
          5              This Commission meeting is the sixth quarterly
          6    meeting to assess the status of activities at the site.  The
          7    Commission is interested in comments, evaluations and
          8    conclusions from all participants today to gage how the
          9    licensee has addressed these three areas.  Let me reiterate
         10    them again:  one, employee concerns and safety conscious
         11    work environment; two, oversight and quality assurance; and
         12    three, backlog management.
         13              I remind everyone that the NRC staff will be
         14    developing another Commission paper that will provide the
         15    staff's assessment of the remaining major issues for restart
         16    readiness, and another Commission meeting will follow
         17    shortly after that paper is completed.
         18              The Commission, with much help from the Office of
         19    the Secretary, has planned a schedule to maximize discussion
         20    of the issues and to obtain a fair hearing from those on all
         21    sides of these issues.  We look forward to a lively and
         22    informative meeting, and I ask for everyone's patience and
         23    goodwill today.
         24              Now, we have made, although this room is not
         25    filled, the NRC auditorium available as an overflow room
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          1    where you can observe this meeting if you desire, but I ask
          2    to please maintain room in the aisles.
          3              Copies of the presentation material are available
          4    at the entrances to this meeting, and unless my colleagues
          5    have any opening comments, Mr. Morris, please proceed.
          6              MR. MORRIS:  Thank you, Dr. Jackson.  Good
          7    morning, fellow Commissioners.  We are happy to be here
          8    today to address in a number of ways the issues that remain
          9    for us at Millstone station.  Most importantly, we will
         10    focus in on the three issues that you have asked us to do,
         11    and hopefully bring closure to some of those issues.  The
         12    first one, the safety conscious work environment, has been a
         13    very interesting journey, to say the least.  We started out,
         14    I would say, without a clear definition in our own minds of
         15    what it was that we hoped that we could accomplish.
         16              You and your colleagues asked that we put date to
         17    that endeavor as best that we could, and we have tried to do
         18    that and we continue to be very satisfied with the
         19    statistics that we see.
         20              As you know, there are a number of outside people
         21    who are also looking at the safety conscious work
         22    environment, including the consultant retained by a company
         23    at the Commission's direction, and today, we're very happy
         24    and somewhat humbled to tell you that our own employee
         25    concerns oversight program has judged that the safety
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          1    conscious work environment is there.  At Millstone Station,
          2    our oversight group has done the same, as has the Nuclear
          3    Safety Assessment Board, as, of course, has the Little
          4    Harbor Consultant Group, and the end and conclusion of the
          5    40,001 inspection by the NRC Special Projects Staff said
          6    pretty much the same thing, and we're very encouraged by all
          7    of that.
          8              Most importantly, the data continues to support
          9    that, and we're pleased with that, and I think at the bottom
         10    line, and I know those of you who have had an opportunity to
         11    come to the station also understand very clearly that the
         12    people at the station believe it, which I think is
         13    critically important for all of us if we're going to be
         14    successful in that environment.
         15              We don't see that, however, as an issue that is
         16    ended.  It's an issue where we will continue to learn,
         17    continue to grow, and continue, we hope, to set standards
         18    for the rest of the industry in a very important working
         19    environment relationship between the management and the
         20    people at a nuclear station.
         21              On the management oversight and quality assurance,
         22    we, of course, have done a lot of work in that arena as
         23    well, trying to demonstrate that we have a solid team in
         24    place, a well-trained team in place, and most importantly,
         25    an empowered team in place, and I think when I look at
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          1    management oversight and I look at the quality assurance
          2    program, I'm always interested in seeing the dedication of
          3    the management of the plant and the line organizations to
          4    invite and encourage the participation of oversight, and
          5    we're beginning to see that in a very proactive way at the
          6    station and I think that that's a very positive indication. 
          7    And here, too, the data is beginning to indicate that there
          8    is substantial support for that.  The NASB isn't the only
          9    outside organization that has evaluated our oversight
         10    activity as being adequate and performing their job, and
         11    again, we're satisfied with that.
         12              As to the deferred items management list, we have
         13    taken your lead and categorized that list in every
         14    imaginable way that we could, most importantly, of course,
         15    looking at safety, and then categorizing by age,
         16    categorizing those in an order, a sequential order that we
         17    think we can continue to work off, and we do work off those
         18    issues even though we believe that they are deferrable to a
         19    backlog kind of status as we go forward, and we'll continue
         20    to do that every day as we move forward.
         21              As you know, in response to something that you had
         22    asked us to do, we have put together what we call the 1998
         23    2000 performance plan wherein we've made commitments to
         24    update the staff and the Commission as we work that backlog
         25    list down to get it in the kind of shape that we would all
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          1    be very happy with.  I think, as Mike Brothers goes through
          2    that list for us, you'll see that we have quite a bit of
          3    understanding of where we stand in that regard, and we
          4    believe that the criteria that we've used to determine
          5    whether an item is deferrable or not is solid and we hope
          6    that your staff concurs with that as well.
          7              So with that small backdrop, let me turn the
          8    program over to Bruce Kenyon and his team to take us through
          9    a very eventful and data-filled presentation.
         10              Thank you.
         11              MR. KENYON:  Good morning.  I'm pleased to have
         12    the opportunity to speak to you in terms of the readiness of
         13    Unit 3 --
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Can you speak a little more
         15    into the microphone?  Is it on?
         16              MR. KENYON:  With regard to the readiness of Unit
         17    3 in terms of the selected issues that you've identified for
         18    this morning.
         19              The agenda for the meeting, our portion of the
         20    meeting is as shown on the slide.  We are focusing on the
         21    issues, Chairman Jackson, that you identified in your
         22    opening remarks.
         23              I do want to take this opportunity to introduce
         24    John Streeter.  John is the recovery officer of oversight
         25    and the newest member of the senior leadership team. 
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          1    Included in John's background are 14 years with the NRC,
          2    time at headquarters, Region I and primarily Region III. 
          3    That has included managing inspection programs for several
          4    plants and the construction testing and operational phases. 
          5    He was director of quality assurance at Comanche Peak, and
          6    he was providing assistance to us in a very important way in
          7    the employee concerns program and we asked him to take on
          8    this assignment.  I'm very pleased to have him as a part of
          9    the leadership team.
         10              Our effective ongoing performance requires high
         11    standards, standards which are established by my leadership
         12    and embraced by the entire workforce.
         13              What I want to emphasize is that we have
         14    repeatedly placed standards over schedule.  A recent example
         15    occurred in the days prior to the entry into Mode 4.  An NRC
         16    concern was expressed as to whether non-pressure retaining
         17    parts for safety related equipment had been procured in
         18    accordance with appropriate quality specifications, and
         19    while we believed that they had, and this was not
         20    established as a restraint item for Mode 4, we nevertheless
         21    took the time -- and this was a delay of several days -- to
         22    do a 100 percent review and found no significant problems.
         23              Effective ongoing performance also requires strong
         24    self-assessment.  This is characterized by vigilant
         25    management controls, and that will be addressed in Marty
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          1    Bowling's presentation, and it also requires effective
          2    oversight mechanisms which are principally the nuclear
          3    oversight organization, and John Streeter will be talking
          4    about that, the NSAB, the Board of Trustees Nuclear
          5    Committee and the Nuclear Committee Advisory Team, and I
          6    will be talking about each of the last two shortly in my
          7    presentation, but I would first like to address the issue of
          8    leadership.
          9              New leadership has established high standards at
         10    Millstone based on diverse expertise.  This includes strong
         11    backgrounds in operations, engineering, licensing, quality. 
         12    We're a fairly eclectic group.  We have considerable
         13    industry experience.  This includes other utilities, DOE,
         14    NRC, a track record of success which is based on a
         15    combination of experience and having managed excellent
         16    plants, construction, startup, operations.
         17              We have placed a considerable emphasis on
         18    communications, both in conveying the standard and in
         19    listening to our employees to learn whether or not the
         20    standard is understood and thus, to ascertain whether
         21    performance is meeting expectations.
         22              I believe we have set high standards, and in some
         23    cases, one example being safety conscious work environment,
         24    I believe our recovery standards and processes are setting
         25    the standard for the industry.
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          1              Millstone's recovery is built on four leadership
          2    values.  The first is to do what is right.  This embodies
          3    our commitment to high standards.  It's intended to convey
          4    the highest sense of personal integrity, and perhaps less
          5    obvious, a sense of ownership.
          6              The philosophy here is that we must believe in
          7    what we are doing.  These must be our high standards.  Just
          8    following the NRC requirements without a commitment to doing
          9    what is right is not good enough.
         10              The second is respect and care for the individual. 
         11    This means we value the individual, we value diversity, we
         12    care about each other, and I hope it's clear that this value
         13    has been the underpinning of our establishment of a safety
         14    conscious work environment.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Mr. Kenyon, can I get you to
         16    highlight for the Commission the extent of the management
         17    changes at the various levels, if you could just speak to
         18    that?
         19              MR. KENYON:  Yes.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         21              MR. KENYON:  At an officer level, all but one
         22    officer is new.  The one officer who is not new had been in
         23    the position for about six months at the time I arrived.  At
         24    the director level, approximately 85 percent and perhaps
         25    slightly higher than that now of the directors are new in
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          1    their positions from the situation that existed when I
          2    arrived in September of 1996.  I'm not sure I can quote
          3    statistics at the manager level and below, but there has
          4    been a huge change in who's doing what.
          5              The third value is teamwork, reconstructing a
          6    sense of teamwork in an organization whose culture had been
          7    significantly damaged, with the additional challenge of
          8    utilizing individuals from diverse backgrounds and
          9    companies.  This has been a challenge, but it is a challenge
         10    we have met.
         11              I think one of the best examples of the resulting
         12    teamwork has been the willingness of various members of the
         13    leadership team, both at an officer level and at a director
         14    level, to take on other assignments as the changing needs of
         15    the organization have dictated.
         16              The fourth value is customer focus.  In the case
         17    of a nuclear organization, what we mean by customer focus is
         18    focus on the internal customer, making sure that the
         19    services that are provided by an individual in the
         20    organization or an organizational unit are the right service
         21    and that they are properly performed.
         22              Now, living to these values has meant both the
         23    setting of high standards and the willingness to admit
         24    mistakes when the standards were not met.  This is such as
         25    senior individuals apologizing for a poor choice of words,
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          1    the reinstatement of a manager when it became clear that the
          2    action to remove him had not been well executed.  But living
          3    to these values has also meant dealing with difficult
          4    situations, and in the process making some very strong
          5    statements regarding our commitment to high standards.
          6              Examples are the disciplining of a significant
          7    number of individuals who in various ways did not exercise
          8    proper diligence in complying with or ensuring compliance
          9    with certain license operator training requirements; the
         10    prompt investigation and resulting reinstatement of two
         11    motor operated valve contractors when it was concluded that
         12    their discharge had been retaliatory; a stand down of all
         13    training programs when it became apparent that there was not
         14    sufficient compliance with a systems approach to training; a
         15    stand down of site work in order to emphasize the importance
         16    of procedural compliance; and the very prompt and strong
         17    repudiation of the phrase "isolate the cynics" and the
         18    independent investigation of its origin.
         19              Living to these values greatly reduces the
         20    likelihood of future problems, and it also provides
         21    assurance that when the problems occur, they will be
         22    properly addressed.
         23              The Millstone team effectively resolved key site
         24    issues for Unit 3 restart.  The status of these site issues
         25    has been addressed in each of the briefing books we have
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          1    sent you in conjunction with this and previous meetings. 
          2    Fifteen of the 16 issues are now resolved, meaning
          3    satisfactory for startup.  The remaining issue is work
          4    control, and with regard to work control, we have a good
          5    program, we are awaiting modestly higher success rates for
          6    jobs started and jobs completed as scheduled.  So it's a
          7    productivity issue rather than a standards issue.  And we
          8    expect this to occur as we get fully implemented into a
          9    12-week rolling schedule which we are now in the process of
         10    doing and we also have certain backlogs which have not yet
         11    met our goal.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Mr. Kenyon, this isn't the main
         13    agenda item for today, but since you have recently been
         14    heating up the plant, can you comment a bit on your
         15    assessment of operator performance in heating up the plant?
         16              MR. KENYON:  Yes.  We have been in and out of --
         17    well, we went into Mode 4 and then subsequently we have been
         18    in and out of Mode 3.  The plant is currently in Mode 3 at
         19    normal operating pressure and temperature.
         20              In initially going into Mode 4 there were a series
         21    of about five events where I was disappointed in how
         22    operations handled things.  Subsequently I've been very
         23    pleased with what they've done and how they've done it.
         24              We've done a lot of looking at those events and on
         25    the surface there's no clear linkage of root causes, but
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          1    frankly we weren't satisfied with that.  We felt there had
          2    to be something more here.  And ultimately what we concluded
          3    is that even though what was going on it was easy for
          4    operations to say, well, I've done this before and I know
          5    how to do it, and, therefore, I'm going to do it.  With the
          6    plant not having operated for two years, and that's really
          7    what we're doing when we go into Mode 4 and up, we're moving
          8    into a realm where the plant operations has not really
          9    exercised the systems.
         10              We're moving to an area where in spite of the fact
         11    they really thought they knew how to do it, they were rusty,
         12    and thus, we have taken steps which include much stronger --
         13    I'll call it "job prebriefings".  It's more like evolution
         14    prebriefings and placing for key evolutions, placing
         15    additional reactor operators or senior operators and/or
         16    management individuals in the control room in order to
         17    strengthen the management overview as we work through
         18    getting comfortable.  So I think we've taken appropriate
         19    actions.  I was disappointed, but I think subsequent
         20    performance has been good.
         21              What was one of the key issues in the security
         22    area, and I just note that that was on the list of your key
         23    site issues.  An example, we had problems where there were
         24    -- we would find instances of a vehicle inside the protected
         25    area with keys in the vehicles and it took a lot of effort
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          1    the get the work force to clearly understand that is
          2    absolutely not going to be allowed and subsequently --
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I understand.
          4              MR. KENYON:  -- that's an example.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  I understand.
          6              MR. KENYON:  Leadership assessment shows
          7    significant progress in all categories.  Improving
          8    leadership has mean making a significant commitment to
          9    leadership training, most first-line supervisors and above
         10    had been through a two-week program which is called "Forum
         11    for Leadership Excellence" as well as significant other
         12    training and we have taken concerted action to deal with
         13    those individuals whose leadership scores are in the bottom
         14    10 percent of the leadership assessment.  And actions have
         15    ranged from an individual development program to, in many
         16    cases removing the individual from the position.
         17              In the interest of comparison, these leadership
         18    scores are only modestly less than the current scores
         19    achieved by B.C. Summer, a plant with excellent performance. 
         20    My previous plant, it's where I first used a survey that's
         21    very similar to this.
         22              Beyond the direct actions of leadership it is
         23    essential that there be very capable independent checks and
         24    balances on the organization, and one of these is the
         25    Nuclear Safety Assessment Board, NSAB.  This provides
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          1    independent review both of line management and of the
          2    oversight function.  The NSAB is effective, it's membership
          3    is strong and inquisitive, important issues are being
          4    reviewed and addressed.  It's focused on confirming and
          5    strengthening standard.  It champions the effectiveness of
          6    nuclear oversight and the NSAB effectiveness has been
          7    evaluated and affirmed by NCAT which has regularly observed
          8    it's meetings.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How does the NSAB feed back to
         10    the plant safety review committee?
         11              MR. KENYON:  Well, the plant safety review
         12    committees have products that come to the NSAB.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         14              MR. KENYON:  And if the quality of the product is
         15    not appropriate, the NSAB tells the plant committees and the
         16    NSAB would identify it as inadequate performance if there
         17    was any significant frequency of inappropriate quality
         18    products coming to the NSAB.
         19              Examples of important actions by the NSAB, they
         20    help to precipitate the training stand down that I mentioned
         21    earlier.  They have strongly promoted significant
         22    improvements in plant lay up status, they thoroughly review
         23    the effectiveness of oversight and they significantly
         24    contributed to the improvement of our safety evaluation
         25    process.  So I'm quite comfortable that the NSAB is
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          1    functioning well as an important safety advisory
          2    organization to me.
          3              Now, independently overviewing the Millstone
          4    recovery and clearly future operations including the NSAB is
          5    Northeast Utilities' Board of Trustees Nuclear Committee. 
          6    This committee is currently meeting twice a month, once in
          7    person and once by phone.  Over the last 12 months the
          8    committee has met at Millstone for a full day four times. 
          9    These full-day, on-site meetings include meetings where the
         10    nuclear committee meets with several groups of employees in
         11    order to get very direct and very independent feedback.
         12              The nuclear committee reviews a monthly
         13    comprehensive written report.  There are approximately 30
         14    pages of narrative and another 60 pages or so of key
         15    performance indicators.  Gail de Planque and Bill Conway are
         16    two members whose names I think you will recognize.  The
         17    committee receives strong support from the Nuclear Committee
         18    Advisory Team, NCAT.
         19              NCAT independently reports to the nuclear
         20    committee, has monthly, full-day, on-site meetings and its
         21    members include George Davis and Tom Murley and recently
         22    Phil Clark who is here is going to come on that group and to
         23    replace George Davis.
         24              As an aside, when I talked to others in the
         25    industry about lessons to be learned from the Millstone
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          1    experience and what is different about our current situation
          2    such that a performance decline of this magnitude and
          3    duration cannot happen again, I almost always point out the
          4    essential difference of the Board or its nuclear committee
          5    and the crucial need for this committee to have good
          6    credible on-going information that is independent of line
          7    management.  And I think this is very important for two
          8    reasons.  First, so there is a good independent check on
          9    line management at a senior level.  The Board should not be
         10    surprise, and I'm quite confident that the company's board
         11    will not be surprised again.
         12              The second reason is that I have found NCAT's
         13    monthly, full-day visits with a debrief to me at the end of
         14    the day to be quite valuable.  Sometimes to simply confirm
         15    my own observations regarding organizational performance,
         16    sometimes as a very useful sounding board to discuss
         17    strategy, sometimes with insights and observations somewhat
         18    differing from my own and those needing to be checked out
         19    and sometimes with an idea or suggestion.
         20              My point is that the creation of the Nuclear
         21    Committee and NCAT in response to the Millstone problems,
         22    this did not exist before, are one more very important
         23    demonstration of the essential checks and balances which
         24    have been built into NU's nuclear operations and thus are a
         25    very important difference from the past.
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          1              As we expect to shortly become a Millstone
          2    organization with one unit in operation, and one in
          3    recovery, and one in a safe shutdown maintenance mode, it's
          4    important that the organization clearly emphasize separation
          5    of operations from recovery, and that we ensure that
          6    sufficient resources are devoted to the operating unit.
          7              Mike Brothers is the vice president of operations
          8    and he's devoted to Unit 3.
          9              Jack McElwain is the recovery officer for Unit 2
         10    and thus is responsible for Unit 2 recovery as well as
         11    maintaining Unit 1 in a safe shutdown mode.
         12              Marty Bowling is the recovery officer for
         13    technical services and thus that primarily deals with
         14    regulatory and engineering services and for these important
         15    services which are common to the three units, it's his
         16    responsibility to ensure that the proper priority is given
         17    to operating units.
         18              Dave Amerine is the vice president of human
         19    services and I want to use this opportunity to emphasize the
         20    very significant organizational step that was taken when
         21    what we characterize as the various people-related
         22    functions.  I'm talking about human resources, the safety
         23    conscious work environment staff, training, the employee
         24    concerns program, emergency planning, these considerable
         25    people-related functions were pulled together under one
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          1    officer to provide strong focus on how we handle the
          2    people-related activities at Millstone.  And we intend to
          3    keep these functions together under once officer for the
          4    indefinite future.
          5              Now, in addition to ensuring a proper separation
          6    of operations from recovery, organizational planning has
          7    been conducted to achieve the following objectives.  A
          8    simplified long-term organization.  We have an organization
          9    that is sufficiently effective for recovery and startup. 
         10    But because it is unitized, it is complex and somewhat
         11    inefficient.  So a simplified organization will also give us
         12    improved economies of scale, and by doing succession
         13    planning for this later, simplified organization, with fewer
         14    management positions, we are preparing for a systematic
         15    phaseout of the recovery teams.
         16              I'd like to make two points on this.  First, we
         17    have moved considerably away from the original concept of a
         18    recovery team.  Yes, there are a number of PECO and Virginia
         19    Power individuals in various positions in the organization. 
         20    But today they are much more in an individual contributor
         21    role than functioning as a entire loan team.  Consequently
         22    we are now in a much more reasonable position to eventually
         23    replace loan individuals on a very orderly and sequenced
         24    basis, largely one at a time as their services are no longer
         25    required.
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          1              The second point is that we will not make
          2    significant organizational changes or major staffing changes
          3    without very careful assessment and follow up to assure
          4    effectiveness.  So we are planning for full implementation
          5    of the long-term organization when unit-specific recovery
          6    organizations are no longer required.
          7              Now, going forward we must have a plan that will
          8    sustain and improve performance.  The plan has been drafted,
          9    it's known as the 1998 to 2000 performance plan.  It's based
         10    on strategic planning that's been completed by the nuclear
         11    officers and we are not involving the directors and others
         12    in refining the plan and building ownership.
         13              The plan is organized around five strategic focus
         14    areas as listed on the slide.  It emphasizes in the early
         15    stages in particular self-assessment and monitoring with
         16    numerous key performance indicators, and it contains the
         17    priority initiatives.
         18              We are beginning the process to have the plan
         19    reviewed and refined by others in the organization in order
         20    to improve content and particularly volume.  This plan will
         21    not be implemented until we complete the recovery of Unit 2.
         22              Now, overarching the 16 site issues and introduced
         23    at the last Commission briefing are NU's eight restart
         24    affirmation criteria which I want to briefly review and
         25    indicate current status for Unit 3 restart.
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          1              The first is root causes for the decline in
          2    Millstone's performance have been identified and corrected.
          3              We believe this area is satisfactory.  As I have
          4    reviewed in previous presentations the causes for
          5    performance decline have been well-established and
          6    fundamentally it was leadership.
          7              Second, compliance with the licensing and design
          8    bases has been restored.  We view this as tracking to
          9    satisfactory while compliance has been substantially
         10    restored.  Remaining actions include completing the
         11    corrective actions for level 3 DRs and there's one license
         12    amendment that is in process.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is this area in any sense
         14    critical path?
         15              MR. KENYON:  Well, we're expecting the license
         16    amendment around the 21st or 23rd and I don't really that as
         17    critical path.  So I think these are tracking quite well. 
         18    And we'll complete it later this month.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         20              MR. KENYON:  The third is safety conscious work
         21    environment has been established.  We believe that is
         22    satisfactory, a very significant accomplishment, this will
         23    be addressed in Dave Amerine's presentation.  But I also
         24    want to comment from a personal perspective.
         25              The heart of the Millstone recovery effort and
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          1    undoubtedly its most difficult challenge has been the
          2    establishment of a safety conscious work environment.
          3              In joining NU 20 months ago I found an environment
          4    where the reservoir of trust between employees and
          5    management that you find to varying degrees in most
          6    organizations was largely gone.  And, thus, trust had to be
          7    rebuilt in a climate of distrust.  And that's a difficult
          8    challenge.
          9              Extraordinary, and in many cases innovative
         10    actions were required, and I just want to quickly name a
         11    few:  The removal and replacement of all incumbent officer,
         12    almost all of them; the new paradigm of recovery teams; the
         13    retention of a former whistle-blower as a consultant, Paul
         14    Blanche; the establishment of an employee volunteer team
         15    many of whom had had prior negative experiences in
         16    expressing concerns.  And the function of this team was to
         17    design the new employee concerns program, so we turned it
         18    over to our employees; the establishment of ECOP, the
         19    employee concerns oversight panel, a committee of employees
         20    to be an ongoing assessor of management's safety-conscious
         21    work environment performance.
         22              The use of a leadership assessment as a means for
         23    employees to tell us who -- who was and was not functioning
         24    as a good leader, and along the way we frankly learned.  We
         25    thought leadership had received sufficient training on what
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          1    to do.  It hadn't, we had to do a lot more.  This involved
          2    taking the entire leadership team as a group, first-line
          3    supervisor and above, off site for several full-day
          4    sessions.  We learned that the process to handle employee
          5    concerns had to be made a lot better.  We learned that
          6    responses to employee concerns had to be much better
          7    coordinated, and we learned that we had to communicate,
          8    communicate, and communicate.  So a huge improvement has
          9    been achieved and in large measure has been built around the
         10    efforts to reestablish employee trust.  I mean, that's been
         11    the foundation of what we've been trying to do.
         12              You are generally aware of our accomplishments. 
         13    And, again, Dave Amerine will talk about this some more, but
         14    I want to share with you some recent examples of what
         15    employees have done on their own.
         16              -- actions which I think powerfully and
         17    meaningfully describe their current feelings.
         18              Our own employees have provided personal witness
         19    at public meetings, more recently at a Connecticut DPUC
         20    hearing on the Millstone rate base matters, with wonderful
         21    content and feeling, and some are here today on their own to
         22    share that with you.
         23              They formed their own grass roots organization. 
         24    They collected over 1500 signatures on a petition.  The
         25    petition states that they are committed to operating the
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          1    station safely and also states their belief that management,
          2    and now I am quoting from the petition, "treats us with
          3    respect and we are confident that any safety issue we find
          4    will be completely addressed in a timely manner."
          5              They held their own rally to celebrate achieving
          6    Mode 4 and they collected the necessary $4,000 to take out
          7    their own full-page ad in the local newspaper, which ran
          8    this past Sunday, so that is what the current work
          9    environment at Millstone is all about, and we, the
         10    leadership team, are proud to be a part of that.
         11              The fourth criterion, self-assessment and
         12    corrective action, processes identifying, resolve problems
         13    in a timely manner -- we believe this is satisfactory.
         14              The self-assessment portion will be addressed in
         15    Marty Bowen's presentation and corrective action will be
         16    addressed in our next briefing.
         17              Fifth, unit and support organizations are ready to
         18    resume operations.  We believe this is tracking to
         19    satisfactory.  Operations are assessed as ready with
         20    personnel properly trained and qualified.  Yes, we had these
         21    events that we mentioned earlier.  Programs, processes and
         22    procedures which comply with regulatory requirements are in
         23    place and are being effectively implemented.  Plant systems
         24    are operable and in good material condition.
         25              As previously discussed, work control is the one
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          1    key issue which is not yet satisfactory, but I do want to
          2    emphasize that we are doing work that is well-controlled. 
          3    We just haven't reached the desired level of productivity
          4    and this should be resolved in May and we are also working
          5    down our backlogs and Mike Brothers will talk about that
          6    more later.
          7              Sixth, the entire station is prepared to properly
          8    support unit operations.  This is tracking to satisfactory. 
          9    Overall, the organization is ready.  The one significant
         10    exception is that our plan to ensure sustaining performance
         11    has been drafted but is not yet finalized.
         12              Seventh, management controls and oversight
         13    measures are in place to prevent significant performance
         14    declines.  We believe this is satisfactory.
         15              Now I am not going to bother to repeat some
         16    obvious points on management controls, but I do want to make
         17    two important observations.
         18              First, as I have already stated, I strongly
         19    believe in an organization with good checks and balances. 
         20    It is healthy.  It is an essential ingredient to the
         21    achievement of excellence.
         22              When I think about what is substantially different
         23    between what I might characterize as the old Millstone and
         24    the Millstone that is before you today or the new Millstone,
         25    I would certainly identify leadership, as I have already
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          1    discussed.  I would identify the working environment and the
          2    level of trust as being substantially different, and I would
          3    also identify the capability and role of oversight as being
          4    substantially different.
          5              In the old Millstone, oversight was viewed by many
          6    as a regulatory requirement -- not a strong organization and
          7    not an organization that was a strong contributor to
          8    excellence.
          9              In today's Millstone, the contrast is dramatic. 
         10    Oversight is a partner in helping to define standards,
         11    standards which lead to excellence, and with better role and
         12    staffing oversight is a much stronger organization.
         13              As an example, some time ago I told the line
         14    organization that I wanted Oversight to sign off on our
         15    readiness for Mode 4.  The line was somewhat surprised that
         16    Oversight hadn't historically done that, but it resulted in
         17    some very healthy interactions between the line and
         18    Oversight regarding standards and performance and how well
         19    performance was meeting those standards.
         20              Now naturally Oversight is involved in assessing
         21    our readiness for Mode 2, and what is interesting as we get
         22    ready for Mode 2 that is somewhat in contrast to getting
         23    ready for Mode 4, the line organization has gone to
         24    Oversight and said what are your standards?  -- you know,
         25    what are the criteria -- let's sit down and talk about it,
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          1    and that now has taken place.  There has been just excellent
          2    interaction on where are we, are we ready, and so forth, so
          3    what we have today is an oversight organization and line
          4    management that are working very much in partnership, as
          5    opposed to what existed some time ago when oversight was
          6    simply something that had to be there.
          7              My second point on management controls and
          8    oversight goes beyond the importance of these controls --
          9    which I think is considerable -- to what I believe is
         10    Millstone's most important and fundamental barrier in
         11    response to the question how is a possible backslide in
         12    performance prevented.
         13              Certainly the controls and oversight are a key
         14    aspect, but fundamentally the most important and strongest
         15    barrier is our employees and they won't permit it, and let
         16    me explain why.
         17              Our employees have been through a rough
         18    experience, but as a result of that experience, they know
         19    more about their rights and responsibilities to raise
         20    concerns and how to get them resolved through various
         21    mechanisms than perhaps any other nuclear workforce in this
         22    country.  They are knowledgeable.  They are empowered.  They
         23    know how to do it by various means and they know that it is
         24    their responsibility, so I can assure you because I
         25    absolutely believe this, they are vigilant and they won't
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          1    allow a backslide, and that is how it should be.
          2              Eighth, restart readiness is affirmed, using a
          3    rigorous process.  This is tracking to satisfactory.
          4              This means that we do have the rigorous
          5    affirmation process in place.  Four of the previous seven
          6    criteria are now satisfactory.  The rest are tracking.  The
          7    important remaining affirmation steps are the Unit 3, Mode 2
          8    review and affirmation by line management, a Nuclear
          9    Oversight recommendation, NASB recommendation, and
         10    ultimately my recommendation and judgment.
         11              This concludes my presentation, unless there are
         12    questions for me.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
         14              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Let me just ask a
         15    question, because Mr. Lochbaum is going to raise it later
         16    today and others perhaps.
         17              The RSS orifice modification issue, where
         18    Oversight apparently made some predictions that proved
         19    correct and I remember Dave Goebel, when he was here at a
         20    previous meeting talking about the need for his organization
         21    to build credibility with the plant and apparently it had
         22    not in the old Millstone been staffed with the best people.
         23              You have addressed that you think that they are
         24    being paid attention to as you forced it in Mode 4.  They
         25    are doing it naturally in Mode 2, but that particular
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          1    incident is the incident that people are going to raise
          2    questions about, whether Oversight is really being paid
          3    attention to, so any comments you would want to make?  Or if
          4    that is going to come up later, I can --
          5              MR. KENYON:  Well, let me make just a couple of
          6    general comments, and then I would like John to add to it.
          7              Yes, Oversight raised the concern, but I don't
          8    think people have fully recognized -- certainly, we have at
          9    Millstone, but not necessarily outside -- is Oversight was
         10    listened to.
         11              I mean we went through evaluations to endeavor to
         12    determine whether or not this -- there was a real problem
         13    there or not.  Oversight was fully involved in that process. 
         14    We ultimately agreed that while the evaluations seemed to
         15    show it was okay, we would go through testing and we went
         16    and Oversight was very much involved in that, so it wasn't a
         17    case of Oversight over in one corner and line management
         18    over in another corner.  It was a focus of both to try and
         19    understand what the situation was and whether or not there
         20    was really a problem.
         21              John, what would you add to that?
         22              MR. STREETER:  If I had to pick an example to
         23    demonstrate to you about the value of Oversight and how it
         24    is performing, I would use this as an excellent example --
         25    it is recent -- and I will tell you why.
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          1              We had initial discussions with the line on this,
          2    the possibility of this particular problem developing, the
          3    vibration in the expansion joints in the bellows back
          4    preceding December, November-December timeframe.
          5              Our initial discussions with the engineering
          6    organizations in the line resulted in us not coming to
          7    agreement about the potential for that problem, so to
          8    elevate that and to assure that it was thoroughly evaluated,
          9    we initiated what we call a condition report, which is how
         10    we capture things that don't appear to be right to get
         11    resolution.  As I said, that was initiated in December.
         12              We proceeded to having discussions with the line,
         13    trying to come up with a meeting of the minds.  Now I want
         14    to express here, it wasn't a matter of something being in
         15    non-compliance.  It was an area that I would call
         16    engineering judgment.
         17              Based on the data that we had, we had a view.  The
         18    line had a different view of the matter.
         19              It proceeded along to where testing of the systems
         20    commenced.  When the testing began we wanted to assure
         21    because the concern was vibration that the systems, the
         22    joints were adequately instrumented during the testing, so
         23    that we could demonstrate conclusively whether or not there
         24    was a vibration problem.
         25              We had continuing discussions in the January-March
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          1    timeframe about where the instrumentation should be placed. 
          2    Our interaction resulted in the enhancement of the location
          3    of the transducers on the lines to assure that we looked at
          4    the potential vibration all three directions, what they call
          5    the axial and then the "x" and the "y" directions as well.
          6              When we were satisfied that we had them properly
          7    instrumented and were getting the data, we proceeded through
          8    the line proceeded testing the pumps, which we were
          9    intimately involved with witnessing the test results and
         10    looking at the test results and witnessing the testing.
         11              We proceeded to the point to where we were
         12    gathering data.  It still didn't look good to us from our
         13    visual observations and for looking at the data, so we chose
         14    to proceed, and Oversight chose to proceed with the vendor
         15    to get their, what they call their calculation -- what their
         16    basis was for the acceptability of the displacements we were
         17    seeing.
         18              The vendor responded initially in a manner that we
         19    didn't feel or thought was rigorous enough as far as the
         20    quality of their calculation, so we proceeded with that
         21    until we got a calculation that we thought had the proper
         22    controls and it was a good calculation.
         23              At that point then, the line organization received
         24    the information at the same time we did.  They took the
         25    information that had been gathered from the instruments that
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          1    we had an impact as far as to ensure its adequacy -- they
          2    took that information, looked at the calculation and the
          3    assumptions in those calculations and they found that the
          4    calculation assumed only lateral movement in one direction
          5    and it didn't take into account the "x" and the "y"
          6    displacements in there.
          7              Once that was discovered, combined with the test
          8    results that was obtained from the instruments that we again
          9    influenced having in place, it became obvious to the
         10    engineering organization that the orientation of those
         11    orifices relative to the bellows -- they should have been
         12    placed in the opposite.  Rather than being before the
         13    expansion bellows, the conclusion was it should have been
         14    after.
         15              So it was at that point when the conclusion was
         16    reached, it was decided to disconnect the piping so that the
         17    orifice could be -- the orientation of it could be changed. 
         18    That point in time is when the internal damage was
         19    discovered at that point, and I can tell you that if
         20    Engineering had not discovered the calculational error I am
         21    absolutely positive that Oversight would have.  We were the
         22    reasons it went the direction it did, that we identified and
         23    determined the extent of the problem, and additionally, and
         24    I will say more about this later, it was on what we called
         25    our Mode 4 checklist, the same checklist that Bruce was
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          1    referring to earlier.
          2              We would not have proceeded at that point without
          3    complete resolution of that issue, so I use that as a very
          4    positive example in my mind of the influence of the
          5    Oversight organization.
          6              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Well, I was just on the
          7    question or issue.
          8              You just told me something I did not know.  The
          9    testing did not discover excessive vibration or noise.  It
         10    was that you discovered that the calculation was one
         11    dimensional instead of being two-dimensional, and that is
         12    what led you back to the -- or we'll say the action testing
         13    that shows that there was some unacceptable vibrations?
         14              MR. STREETER:  The testing, Commissioner,
         15    indicated to us that it looked like it was excessive
         16    vibration.  It met the criteria that was in the calculation
         17    in the first place, but that was suspect to us.  It also
         18    satisfied the flow requirements in the testing.  So it
         19    wasn't something that was in the test results that caused or
         20    something that revealed internal damage, rather it was
         21    putting these pieces together, the instrumentation, the
         22    results of the vibration, plugging it, so to speak, into the
         23    calculation where it hadn't been before, saying this is not
         24    right, the orientation has to be changed.
         25              It wasn't anything dramatic like a test failure or
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          1    something.
          2              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  There was no sound transducers
          3    installed during the testing?
          4              MR. STREETER:  The transducers were -- that's
          5    where we were getting the data for the --
          6              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Sound?
          7              MR. STREETER:  No, not to my knowledge.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, let me ask you this
          9    question, let's extract and abstract from what you just
         10    said.  Two questions.  One, what then do you feel is the
         11    appropriate metric for effectiveness of Oversight, given the
         12    litany that you just went through?  And, second, did this
         13    reveal some engineering inadequacies in terms of its
         14    analysis and ability to get to the root of the problem?
         15              MR. STREETER:  The appropriate metric here would
         16    be, in my opinion, the identification and resolution of the
         17    problem.  That's -- that's how I would view the metric.  We
         18    identified --
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So you are saying that the
         20    metric should not -- it's not that the Oversight
         21    organization and the line organization did or did not
         22    initially agree, but that Oversight was able to push the
         23    issue to the point of resolution?  Is that what you are
         24    arguing?
         25              MR. STREETER:  That's correct.  It is not uncommon
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          1    for Oversight organizations to have different views than
          2    line organization, and have to resolve them through this
          3    process.  It is in one of those areas, Dr. Jackson, where it
          4    is not -- it is not cut and dried, as far as this is a
          5    requirement and you are not meeting it versus you are
          6    meeting it.  Rather, it is in the area that I was calling
          7    about, this particular one area of engineering judgment,
          8    where we had two different views.
          9              That's why it is vitally important, and I'll talk
         10    more abut this later, about us having the calibre of people
         11    that we have, that are able to look at those and render
         12    those technical judgments and being able to discuss, and
         13    then coming out with the right conclusions with those.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is there any statement that you
         15    would make or not with respect to the robustness of the root
         16    cause analysis and/or the engineering depth that -- what
         17    would you say in this regard?
         18              MR. STREETER:  I would say that the engineering
         19    depth in this one, that led to the installation of the
         20    system the way it was, was not what I would have expected.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Has there been improvement
         22    since that time?
         23              MR. STREETER:  There is continual improvement
         24    going on in the engineering area.  And I hate to keep saying
         25    this again and again, but I am going to talk to some areas
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          1    about engineering.  Engineering is not where we want it to
          2    be, not where Oversight wants it to be.  But then again, I
          3    would have to say that many areas aren't to the -- do not
          4    reach the high standards that we have now.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Commissioner Dicus.
          6              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  I'll ask the question now,
          7    you may, if you wish, choose to answer it when you do your
          8    formal presentation.  But given this situation, have you
          9    identified now, in the process that you are in, other areas
         10    where Oversight is disagreeing with line management or vice
         11    versa?
         12              MR. STREETER:  Let me say again, and this is
         13    really important, it is not uncommon to have different views
         14    on standards, and that's what we are talking about here. 
         15    And what I will speak to a little while is that one of the
         16    critical pieces of why Oversight is effective -- is as
         17    effective as it is today, is because it has been empowered
         18    to raise the standards that are in place at Millstone now. 
         19    In other words, in just going by the bare minimum, Bruce
         20    Kenyon has sent out expectations to the entire work force
         21    that he is using Oversight and expects Oversight to go
         22    beyond that, to elevate those and to raise our standards of
         23    performance.
         24              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Okay.  To follow up on that
         25    then, and I agree, that is a good response.  But in
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          1    situations where Oversight is identifying something, or
          2    indeed line management has identified something, is there a
          3    good working relationship between the two to work toward
          4    resolution?
          5              MR. STREETER:  There is a good working
          6    relationship and it is approaching excellent.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  My only comment/question really
          8    has to do with the fact that the Oversight organization in
          9    the end is not the line organization, even though we are
         10    obviously interested in the effectiveness and quality of
         11    Oversight.  And so -- but it is a barrier, and that is an
         12    important one to have.  But it does reflect back to the
         13    question of, and then I guess I will put the question to Mr.
         14    Kenyon, in terms of the first line is in the line, and in
         15    that sense, it tracks back to engineering.  And so what is
         16    your judgment relative to whether engineering is where you
         17    would like to see it be?  And what steps are you taking if
         18    it doesn't meet your expectations?
         19              MR. KENYON:  Engineering is satisfactory.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         21              MR. KENYON:  And any engineering organization. 
         22    This particular issue was one where there is a fair amount
         23    of judgment.  It isn't a simple little black and white kind
         24    of question.  So there was judgment -- and really to go back
         25    to where Commissioner McGaffigan started, this was not line
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          1    management in one corner arguing one position, and Oversight
          2    in another corner arguing an entirely different position. 
          3    These were two professional organizations that, when there
          4    was a question, they went to get further calculations, they
          5    went back to the designer of the system, they went to some
          6    experts beyond that to try and get calculations done.  So it
          7    was not the easiest engineering problem.
          8              But what was going on here was Oversight raising a
          9    concern and line management not so much arguing with it as,
         10    all right, let's work through it.  Let's see -- let's see
         11    what's there.
         12              So would I have liked the conclusions through the
         13    engineering process to have identified the problem rather
         14    than testing having identified the problem?  In other words,
         15    would I have liked engineering to have caught it and we not
         16    had even gone to the testing step?  Certainly, I would.  But
         17    the whole point of testing is that occasionally you can't
         18    prove everything up front, so you do do some testing.  And
         19    Oversight was involved in the testing, engineering was
         20    involved in the testing, and it resulted in a satisfactory
         21    resolution.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But it really wasn't until you
         23    dismantled it that you found the internal damage?
         24              MR. KENYON:  We didn't know that we had internal
         25    damage until we took it apart.  But the testing,
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          1    particularly on the fourth pump, where we did some more
          2    sophisticated testing, and was looking at vibration in all
          3    three directions, because we just weren't that satisfied
          4    with what had happened up to that point, it was as a result
          5    of that that we decided the prudent thing to do was drop the
          6    expansion joint out and look inside.  So, yes, we were on a
          7    trial here to ultimately get to the bottom of it.
          8              You know, you ask the basic question, am I
          9    satisfied with the performance of the engineering
         10    organization?  Yes, I am.  Can they do some things better
         11    and are they working to do some things better?  Yes, they
         12    are.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Commissioner Diaz.
         14              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes, if I may follow up on
         15    Commissioner Dicus' question.  I think there is a bottom
         16    line in here which is the overlying issue, how this impacts
         17    or does not on potential restart.  And that is, is this an
         18    isolated issue, or is this -- I mean have you actually gone
         19    and checked further that similar systems with safety
         20    significant has gone through a thorough process, so this is
         21    an isolated case and not an indication that there might be a
         22    few of those?
         23              MR. KENYON:  We have done that.
         24              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Okay.
         25              MR. KENYON:  And Marty Bowling will talk more
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          1    about that.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Commissioner.
          3              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Mr. Lochbaum also, in
          4    his presentation, is going to make a recommendation that
          5    there be round the clock NRC or mentor presence during and
          6    after restart that would help guard against schedule over
          7    safety mistakes.  And he believes that one element of this
          8    was a desire to keep on schedule on the part of the line.
          9              Any comments you would want to make on that
         10    recommendation?  He says that we have done something similar
         11    at Grand Gulf previously.  But that clearly is Mr. Lochbaum
         12    having a lack of confidence in I suppose Oversight or
         13    whatever.  So how do you respond to that recommendation?
         14              MR. KENYON:  Well, I would first like to comment
         15    on the underlying premise and then comment on the
         16    recommendation.  I do not at all agree that schedule
         17    pressures are what is causing.  We have taken -- you know,
         18    there is just example after example where we have stopped
         19    what we are doing, looked at it, gone back, come out of Mode
         20    3 to go into Mode 4.  There are just example after example
         21    of where we have -- I mean all of my discussions with
         22    employees, almost every one, emphasizes the importance of
         23    standards first and schedule second, so I do not agree with
         24    the underlying premise.
         25              Now, having said that, I have no objection to
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          1    another person in the control room.  We are putting extra
          2    individuals in the control room ourselves.  And if the NRC
          3    wants to do that, that's fine.  Whether it is necessary or
          4    not, I am not really going to comment on.  We are doing --
          5    it is our responsibility to operate the plant.  We are doing
          6    what we think is necessary to ensure that it is properly
          7    operated.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Let me hear from Mr.
          9    Amerine.
         10              MR. AMERINE:  Good morning.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good morning.
         12              MR. AMERINE:  My name is Dave Amerine, and I am
         13    the vice president of Human Services at Millstone.  As such,
         14    I have the lead for the area of safety conscious work
         15    environment, which all employees are responsible for.
         16              May I have the first slide, please?
         17              We have achieved our six high level success
         18    criteria that demonstrate to us that we have successfully
         19    established a safety conscious work environment at Millstone
         20    Station.  We will continue to monitor and to evaluate these
         21    criteria to assure that we sustain and continue to improve
         22    our environment at Millstone.
         23              We have measured our progress by the first four
         24    criteria, and the fifth criteria, Employee Concern Oversight
         25    Panel, was our independent internal review, particularly of
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          1    the efficacy of the Employee Concerns Program.  The last
          2    criteria, Little Harbor Consultant Concurrence, is the
          3    independent external verification of our evaluation.
          4              Although Little Harbor has recently said that we
          5    have met their criteria for establishing a safety conscious
          6    work environment, they did emphasize the tenuousness of that
          7    achievement.  Further, Little Harbor said that Millstone
          8    will have truly arrived at a firmly established safety
          9    conscious work environment when the extraordinary resources
         10    presently required to nurture that climate are no longer
         11    necessary.  Until then, and even after that time, we will be
         12    ever vigilant to assure there is no let up in our safety
         13    conscious work environment commitment.
         14              On March 31st, we submitted our safety conscious
         15    work environment readiness letter to the NRC.  In it we
         16    stated that we have established a safety conscious work
         17    environment at Millstone Station.  This conclusion was
         18    arrived at based on several factors, including performance
         19    indicators we have been using for the last eight months to
         20    assess our performance.  We have also presented these
         21    determinations to three internal bodies, Nuclear Oversight,
         22    the Employee Concerns Oversight Panel, and the Nuclear
         23    Safety Assessment Board.  Following their own assessment,
         24    they concurred that the safety conscious work environment
         25    can support a return to operations at Unit 3.  We have also
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          1    responded to all the recommendations provided by Little
          2    Harbor Consultants.
          3              This slide shows a rollup of our first criteria,
          4    which is employee willingness to raise concerns.  The last
          5    leadership survey showed that greater than 97 percent of the
          6    leaders were rated as effective in resolving employee
          7    issues.  In addition, the recent Employee Concerns Oversight
          8    Panel survey data showed that 95 percent of the employees
          9    surveyed would raise issues through their leadership. 
         10    Little Harbor Consultant targeted interviews showed 99
         11    percent of the employees interviewed would raise issues to
         12    their management.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How large a survey -- how large
         14    were these surveys?
         15              MR. AMERINE:  Well, for example, the first survey
         16    of the leaders including approximately 85 percent of the
         17    leaders who qualified to have that survey done, which was
         18    determined by the number of people they had reporting
         19    directly to them.  I might add that, as I say down later --
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I mean who did you ask the
         21    questions of, about leadership?
         22              MR. AMERINE:  The employees.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  The employees.
         24              MR. AMERINE:  Yes.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And I am saying how large a
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          1    sample of employees did you have?
          2              MR. AMERINE:  Population-wise?
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Yes.  Population-wise.  So you
          4    surveyed for each leader, those who work for that leader, is
          5    that the point?
          6              MR. AMERINE:  That's correct.  Now, at the end of
          7    this month, May, we will have another leadership assessment. 
          8    But this will not only include the leader to whom the
          9    employees report directly but also include a skip survey. 
         10    So it will actually be a larger survey of the leadership
         11    population.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And what about the culture
         13    survey and the Employee Concerns Oversight Panel survey, how
         14    large a population did they sample?
         15              MR. AMERINE:  I can't speak to the Employee
         16    Concerns Oversight Panel survey.  I am not sure I know that. 
         17    Mike Quinn is here, if he has -- knows that population size.
         18              MR. QUINN:  Typically, about 300-plus employees.
         19              MR. AMERINE:  Did you hear that?  About 300-plus
         20    employees.
         21              MR. KENYON:  And going back to the leadership
         22    assessment, it's a very high percentage of our employees and
         23    contractors.  I don't know whether it's 95 percent, but it
         24    is basically, you know, on a given morning, for a given work
         25    group.  Everybody is there before they go to the work, the
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          1    survey forms are passed out, the survey forms are passed in. 
          2    Somebody has the right not to do it, but it is relatively
          3    few individuals who choose not to fill out the survey.
          4              MR. AMERINE:  One important segment of the
          5    population that, since I have been in this position, I have
          6    tried to make sure we are always mindful of are the shift
          7    workers.  My experience at a number of other facilities, it
          8    is just too easy to forget about them, which is a
          9    significant portion of your population.
         10              Going back to the last survey that we mentioned,
         11    the small percentage who said they would not use management,
         12    would nevertheless avail themselves of some other avenue to
         13    raise concerns.  These indications confirm that the work
         14    force not only possesses the willingness to raise concerns,
         15    but it has the confidence that the concerns will be
         16    addressed and the knowledge that raising of concerns will
         17    not be met with retaliation.
         18              I mentioned the next leadership assessment and the
         19    fact that it will be what we call a skip level as well as
         20    immediate level.  At the end of June we will do another
         21    culture survey as well.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is this something you plan to
         23    continue doing on a periodic basis?
         24              MR. AMERINE:  Yes, ma'am.  It's part of our
         25    performance plan that I will speak to a little bit later
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          1    going forward.
          2              The next slide, please.
          3              This performance indicator addresses
          4    confidentiality and anonymous concerns.  After an increase
          5    in November and December, the number of concerns received
          6    anonymously or requesting confidentiality has steadily
          7    decreased, although April's number went up slightly.  The
          8    December increase was most likely influenced by the sitewide
          9    education process completed in November of 1997.
         10              So far in 1998 the average percent of concerns
         11    requesting confidentiality or submitted anonymously is 36
         12    percent, down from the 1997 average of 40 percent.  As of
         13    April 29, we had received 20 concerns in the month of April. 
         14    Six of these were received anonymously, and two requested
         15    confidentiality.  So we're up to a total of eight there,
         16    whereas last month it was six.  So this KPI or key
         17    performance indicator will be watched closely due to that
         18    slight increase.
         19              Now there's an interesting point I'd like to bring
         20    out that there's been a shift in the number of concerns that
         21    have been received anonymously and those that are received
         22    requesting confidentiality.  The number received requesting
         23    confidentiality, as I just said, in the April statistics as
         24    of the 29th have gone down, and the number therefore
         25    proportionately have gone up that were received anonymously. 
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          1    And what that tells me is those employees who want personal
          2    closure with their concern are not requesting
          3    confidentiality as much as they had been in the past, and
          4    that tells me that any fear of retaliation has subsided
          5    quite a bit in the work force.  So I think that's important
          6    to note, because we lump those two together, but there's
          7    something telling in those -- the relationship of those two.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What do anonymous concerns tell
          9    you?
         10              MR. AMERINE:  Anonymous concerns are concerns that
         11    people have, you know, taken the time to write out, perhaps
         12    put in a drop box or sent in, but that their concern for
         13    closure is not as intense, let's say, as someone who's
         14    submitted it and signed it or submitted it, request --
         15    signed it and requested confidentiality, meaning they would
         16    like an answer back.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So you link anonymity to desire
         18    for closure as opposed to anonymity to concern about
         19    retaliation.
         20              MR. AMERINE:  I think the fact that the person has
         21    signed the concern means that they personally want some
         22    closure.  The fact that a few of them are requesting --
         23    fewer are requesting confidentiality now than before tells
         24    me that the work force has a lot more confidence in their
         25    management.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Statistics can be read many
          2    ways.
          3              MR. AMERINE:  I think I received that advice from
          4    you last time.
          5              [Laughter.]
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I'm consistent.
          7              MR. AMERINE:  If I could have the next slide,
          8    please.
          9              There are actually three slides here, and these
         10    following three slides demonstrate how the second criterion,
         11    which is line management handling issues effectively, has
         12    been met.  The statistics reflect management's belief that
         13    the reestablishment of a safety-conscious work environment
         14    requires effective resolution of all concerns, not just
         15    those that may have safety implications.  Employees who have
         16    no fear of retaliation for any reason will necessarily be
         17    more willing to raise issues having an impact on safe
         18    operation of the plant.  And the fair treatment of employees
         19    necessarily enhances employee morale and pride in the
         20    organization.
         21              Now speaking to this performance indicator, the
         22    percent of overdue assignments had increased at the
         23    beginning of April, which we believe is due to the efforts
         24    to close the necessary items for Mode 4.  As you can see,
         25    due to management attention, the numbers have been brought
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          1    back down.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How many additional resources
          3    were applied to get under your three-percent goal?
          4              MR. AMERINE:  It wasn't so much an additional
          5    resource as it was management attention and allocation to
          6    those concerns.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So what might we expect
          8    as -- if Unit 3 is allowed to restart and attention is
          9    shifted to Unit 2, how do we ensure that you stay under your
         10    three-percent goal?
         11              MR. AMERINE:  You're going to see one KPI -- I'm
         12    sorry -- key performance indicator.  In just a few minutes I
         13    will address that question.
         14              The next performance indicator, please.
         15              Okay.  The quality of evaluations remains above
         16    our goal.  The evaluation of quality is determined by the
         17    management review team reviewing the condition report
         18    evaluations and assigning a value by -- if they review it
         19    without any comment and approve it without comment, that
         20    gets a 4.  If they approve it but they have comments that
         21    have to be incorporated, that gets a 2.  And if they
         22    disapprove it the first time -- in other words, it's got to
         23    go back for improvement -- then it gets a zero.  And you can
         24    see that we're staying above our goal of 3.
         25              The next performance indicator is the average age
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          1    of the condition report evaluations, and that has been below
          2    30 for the last six weeks, which have been our internal
          3    goal, in addition to having no adverse trend.  Again, these
          4    last three performance indicators demonstrate management's
          5    effectiveness at handling concerns.  And I will get back to
          6    your question, Chairman.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You know, all of these have
          8    implicit -- either explicit or implicit thresholds.  How do
          9    you arrive at those?  What do you decide what's good enough?
         10              MR. AMERINE:  Well, one of the things we do is we
         11    look for -- most of these are looking at a trend to make
         12    sure that we are either holding our own or getting better. 
         13    Some of the indicators we also look to see how is the
         14    industry doing, what are -- we benchmark against the
         15    industry to see what the good plants or the average plants
         16    are doing.
         17              Okay, if I could have the next one, please.
         18              The Employee Concerns Program is effective and an
         19    active contributor to our safety-conscious work environment
         20    at Millstone.  The age of concerns under investigation is
         21    improving.  It has been averaging approximately 50 days over
         22    the past several months.  This average is reflective, I
         23    believe, of the large increase we saw in December and
         24    January, and I've already talked to the cause for that
         25    influx or what I believe to be the cause.  People who would
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          1    use the program again have significantly increased to 90
          2    percent for recent users.  Employee concerns oversight
          3    panel, Little Harbor, and the NRC 4001 evaluation judged the
          4    Employee Concerns Program as effective.
          5              Now before leaving this slide, let me add that at
          6    Millstone visible senior management support for the Employee
          7    Concerns Program has provided substantial manpower and
          8    logistical resources and direct access to Bruce Kenyon, the
          9    president and CEO.  Corrective actions which arise out of
         10    the Employee Concerns Program investigations are tracked
         11    through a formal action tracking system.
         12              In addition to the ECP staffing augmentation and
         13    level of senior management support, the Employee Concerns
         14    Program's effectiveness has been enhanced by the development
         15    of a comprehensive manual.  This manual formalizes the
         16    recent improvements in the ECP processes, practices, and
         17    consistency of performance.  Notably the ECP process now
         18    requires the conduct of an immediate assessment of the
         19    concern to determine its safety significance and the need
         20    for an operability or reportability determination, and also
         21    the assessment for any chilling effect.  The manual also
         22    provides the process which governs the conduct of the
         23    investigation, communication with the concernee, corrective
         24    action, and feedback to the Employee Concerns Program from
         25    the concernee on how he or she viewed the process.
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          1              If I could have the next slide, please.
          2              This is the performance indicator that shows that
          3    the number of people who would use the Employee Concerns
          4    Program has increased significantly, which I mentioned
          5    before.  In June of last year both the employee concerns
          6    oversight panel and the Little Harbor survey showed 50 to 60
          7    percent willingness to use the ECP program.  The present
          8    data shows greater than 90 percent of those interviewed by
          9    the Employee Concerns Oversight Program would use the ECP
         10    again.  This is particularly significant considering that
         11    the survey was almost completely personnel who had used the
         12    ECP since last September.  This is a particularly strong
         13    endorsement of Employee Concerns Program.
         14              The average age of the ECP concerns is going up
         15    and down over the period of a month.  As I said before, it's
         16    averaging between 50 and 55 days.  While this is adequate
         17    and no adverse trend exists, we have an internal target of
         18    45 days, and I expect that this will be achieved after Unit
         19    3 is back in service, to speak to your earlier question. 
         20    And again that's a function of staffing, workload, and
         21    priority.
         22              Okay.  We have developed a classification protocol
         23    which is a formal process providing logic and criteria for
         24    determining whether ECP cases involve 50.7 or
         25    chilling-effect activities.  Applying this process to 228
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          1    competed files going back to December of 1996 yielded the
          2    following results:  56 alleged potential 10 CFR 50.7
          3    concerns; of those, 36 were unsubstantiated, three were
          4    substantiated, which I'll speak to a little bit later, 8
          5    fell into the indeterminate category, which 7 of those are
          6    over a year old.  And then we notice that in nine of them
          7    during this review require a little bit of additional
          8    information to complete their closure.
          9              With respect to the chilling effect, 23 were
         10    unsubstantiated, 16 were substantiated, eight fell into
         11    the -- the same eight into that indeterminate category, and
         12    also the same nine requiring just a little bit of additional
         13    information to complete their closure.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So the 101 is different than
         15    the 256.
         16              MR. AMERINE:  The 101 --
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Alleged harassment,
         18    intimidation, retaliation, discrimination.  All bound up in
         19    the 50.7, or are they completely separate?
         20              MR. AMERINE:  Of the 228, there was a subset that
         21    were 101 cases alleging harassment, intimidation,
         22    retaliation, discrimination.  Of those, 56 --
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  I just wanted to
         24    understand.
         25              MR. AMERINE:  Had potential 10 CFR 50.7 overtones.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  I just wanted to be
          2    sure.
          3              MR. AMERINE:  Next slide, please.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So the infrequent means the
          5    number that -- you're baselining that to the number of
          6    substantiated --
          7              MR. AMERINE:  Yes.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Cases.  Okay.
          9              MR. AMERINE:  And this slide, this next slide I
         10    think talks to that as well.  The number of cases alleging
         11    harassment, intimidation, retaliation, discrimination does
         12    not indicate an adverse trend.  Now as of April 29, the
         13    number of concerns received in the month alleging 50.7 HIRD
         14    was two.  So you can see that trend, downward trend
         15    continues.
         16              The -- so far the review mentioned before showed
         17    three cases from the MOV event in last August that were
         18    classified as substantiated potential 10 CFR 50.7
         19    violations.
         20              Okay.  Go to the next slide please.
         21              Most of the leadership team which includes all of
         22    the management from the vice-presidents to first-line
         23    supervisors and even personnel now designated as leads have
         24    been through the safety conscious work environment training.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Everybody at the table.
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          1              MR. AMERINE:  Everybody at the table.
          2              [Laughter.]
          3              Now if you go to the second bullet, simply stated,
          4    a manager who creates a workplace which is receptive to
          5    raising concerns, and that's captured in the management for
          6    nuclear safety module, one who treats employees with
          7    respect, that's in the civil treatment course, and one who
          8    understands the requirements of the law, which is provided
          9    in the employee relations or the 50.7 training, will have
         10    the fundamental skills necessary to establish and maintain a
         11    safety-conscious work environment and thereby avoid any
         12    retaliation against those employees engaged in a protected
         13    activity.
         14              Now the last item on that page for recent
         15    supervisors hired, promoted or appointed, a Quick Start
         16    program has been developed, and it includes a video
         17    stressing the important aspects of a safety-conscious work
         18    environment, a reading of the safety-conscious work
         19    environment handbook, and also being assigned a mentor.
         20              This must be accomplished within the first week of
         21    the new management assignment.  The full scope of training
         22    that I just reviewed must be done in the first 90 days after
         23    a new supervisor assumes his or her new assignment.
         24              Next slide.
         25              We have become much more sensitive to recognition
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          1    of challenges to the safety-conscious work environment in
          2    their beginning stages.  Early intervention by line
          3    management and the various support groups results in
          4    resolution if these four significant problems develop.
          5              With respect to the second bullet, many different
          6    work groups across the site have independently formed
          7    assessment groups, organized meetings, solicited assistance,
          8    or taken other steps to monitor their actions and to enhance
          9    their work environments.  These efforts, although less
         10    visible and at a smaller scale than the formal program, are
         11    extraordinarily important.  Such efforts, voluntarily
         12    initiated, confirm that the culture has changed and that the
         13    message of a safety-conscious work environment has not only
         14    been received, but accepted.
         15              The people team consists of the Millstone Human
         16    Resource Group, Employee Concerns Program Group,
         17    Safety-Conscious Work Environment Group, and the Legal Group
         18    presently assigned to the site, and with the oversight of
         19    Employee Concerns Oversight Panel.
         20              As refined, the process is to assist line
         21    management in nurturing the safety-conscious work
         22    environment, and resolving challenges to it.  Performance in
         23    the remaining focus area supports restart, and I will
         24    discuss that in later slides.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How were the success stories
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          1    received?
          2              MR. AMERINE:  Various ways.  For example, I
          3    received an e-mail from an employee who just wanted to let
          4    me know that that person's concern which was raised over a
          5    weekend was responded to by the unit director coming in off
          6    of vacation to address that concern, and then that person's
          7    operations manager coming in on a Sunday to help follow up
          8    on that concern.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So this is a compilation of
         10    feedback items you received in different ways?
         11              MR. AMERINE:  Yes, ma'am, anecdotal feedback in
         12    from the employees that is saying that it's working.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         14              MR. AMERINE:  This slide shows the key performance
         15    indicator for focus areas, and that number has steadily
         16    decreased from the -- particularly if you consider the 33 at
         17    the end of 1997 to the eight at this time.
         18              Let me just define a focus area so we are all on
         19    the same page.  It's a group or event where those involved
         20    are either unable or unwilling to raise and/or resolve
         21    issues important to some stakeholder.
         22              Recently several active focus areas were assessed
         23    to have successfully completed their action plans.  However,
         24    during the same time frame some safety-conscious work
         25    environment cases that were brought to our attention were
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          1    determined to meet the criteria to become a focus area.  So
          2    that number, although it's holding constant, really there is
          3    some fluctuation there.
          4              The safety-conscious work environment organization
          5    has evaluated the current focus areas to ensure that there
          6    are no issues within those work groups which would
          7    jeopardize restart.
          8              In fact, all active focus areas are still
          9    accomplishing their duties and responsibilities at an
         10    acceptable level, and improvement is happening in all areas.
         11              Our most recent focus area action -- plans of
         12    actions and closure documentation have been improved
         13    significantly as we have learned and refined the process. 
         14    We have revisited and updated older focus area
         15    determinations to make sure their documentation also is
         16    acceptable.
         17              Next slide, please.
         18              As Bruce said, the work force at Millstone is
         19    empowered and is educated, and that will be the best
         20    insurance to make sure there's no deterioration in the
         21    safety-conscious work environment.  They know their rights
         22    and the responsibilities of management.
         23              With respect to the second bullet, as part of the
         24    safety-conscious work environment readiness letter, we
         25    committed to maintaining the infrastructure that we have in
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          1    place under the Human Services Organization to ensure that
          2    we continue the momentum we feel we have established.
          3              This includes the present safety-conscious work
          4    environment group, the human resources group, the employee
          5    concerns program groups.  Employee concerns oversight panel
          6    is also included in this statement, although it functionally
          7    reports to Mr. Kenyon.
          8              This internal structure will continue beyond the
          9    Unit 2 restart.  This group has daily coordination meetings
         10    and they will continue.  Issues will continue to receive
         11    real-time senior management attention.  The organization
         12    will continue to respond to urgent events affecting the work
         13    environment consistent with the established rapid response
         14    protocol that we have developed.
         15              Events will continue to be analyzed to extract
         16    lessons learned and the results factored in remedial
         17    efforts.
         18              Training on the safety-conscious work environment
         19    related matters will continue with emphasis on refresher
         20    training and training of new arrivals.
         21              Speaking to the third bullet, safety-conscious
         22    work environment part of our 1998 to 2000 performance plan
         23    which John mentioned earlier, is called the work environment
         24    section.  This section was attached to the safety-conscious
         25    work environment readiness letter that we submitted earlier
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          1    and has been augmented by a recent submittal.
          2              The work environment performance plan consists of
          3    three disciplines which are leadership, safety-conscious
          4    work environment itself, and human resources.  The
          5    performance plan consisting of objective performance
          6    measures, performance targets, and related action items has
          7    been developed.  Performance against this plan will
          8    determine when, after Unit 2 restart, the human services can
          9    begin to evolve into the projected mature organization.
         10              As line management gets better and better at
         11    nurturing the safety-conscious work environment and
         12    recognizing lapses as soon as they occur and taking
         13    appropriate preventative or restorative actions, the present
         14    extraordinary human services resources can be combined or
         15    reduced.
         16              Our submittal details the logic and criteria we
         17    will use to preclude backsliding and to determine when we
         18    can realign the elements of the human services organization.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But to the end of early
         20    detection, you intend to continue to use the performance
         21    indicators?
         22              MR. AMERINE:  Yes, ma'am, we do.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         24              MR. AMERINE:  The fourth bullet speaks to using
         25    performance indicators, to answer your question.  We are
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          1    determined that, having made a fundamental change in the
          2    conduct of our Millstone environment, we will not tolerate
          3    any backsliding or complacency.
          4              Consequently, the efforts to enhance the work
          5    climate and to instill the attitudes and attributes of a
          6    safety-conscious work environment will continue as part of
          7    our ongoing longer-term performance plan.
          8              Next slide, please.
          9              The safety-conscious work environment processes
         10    will continue to be improved as we mature.  These processes
         11    have been formalized in handbooks and flow-charted for ease
         12    of use.  Lessons learned are factored in.
         13              The plan I mentioned before contains provision for
         14    initial and follow-up training on safety-conscious work
         15    environment matters.  We will measure and sustain
         16    performance by the conduct of leadership assessments that we
         17    mentioned earlier, the conduct of culture surveys,
         18    establishment and communication of safety goals, and the
         19    development and implementation of safety-conscious work
         20    environment guidebook for supervisors.
         21              Regarding the organization transition, the plan
         22    has established performance measures and targets.  Among the
         23    relevant targets are the absence of any safety-conscious
         24    work environment focus areas by 1999.  A 5 percent
         25    improvement in the leadership assessment scores when
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          1    compared to the November 1997 results.  And a continuous
          2    positive trend in the culture survey results.
          3              These performance measures will guide our
          4    transitioning from the extraordinary support functions we
          5    have today to the permanent human services organization.
          6              Organization adjustments over time will be based
          7    on performance demonstrated and results achieved against
          8    those parameters I just mentioned; increased line management
          9    effectiveness resulting in less HR demands, and the ability
         10    of employee concerns program to focus primarily on the
         11    nuclear safety-significant issues, and self assessments
         12    verifying the performance expectations are being met.
         13              Speaking of human resources, a survey taken about
         14    eight months ago and one taken very recently showed about a
         15    factor of two gain in confidence in the human resources
         16    organization that we have on site now.
         17              And this was demonstrated most recently when there
         18    was an issue regarding the appropriate calibration of an
         19    instrument, and the line organization when they ran into
         20    that problem -- and this was just two nights ago --
         21    immediately called the human resource group, which responded
         22    right away, and then the plan of action was brought to the
         23    executive review board the very next day.  We convened a
         24    special board.  So that demonstrates two things:
         25              One, the confidence that the line management now
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          1    has in those support organizations; and two, the
          2    responsiveness of those organizations to make sure matters
          3    like that are dealt with efficiently, effectively, and very
          4    fairly, because there was a concern through all of that for
          5    an employee involved as well as for the technical aspect.
          6              Next slide, please.
          7              These are our criteria for establishing a
          8    safety-conscious work environment, and we have demonstrated
          9    that they are met.  With a clear understanding of the past
         10    and a full appreciation for the challenges of the future,
         11    and a firm commitment to sustained excellence, we report
         12    that we have achieved a safety-conscious work environment at
         13    Millstone station which will support the restart of Unit 3.
         14              The advancements we have made are significant and
         15    reflect a fundamental change in business practices at
         16    Millstone.  By no means, however, do we consider the full
         17    objective reached or the goal of excellence attained.  The
         18    objective is to create a healthy and safe working
         19    environment which thrives in the long run during periods of
         20    sustained power operations, not just in times of intense
         21    regulatory scrutiny.
         22              Despite the best efforts of well-intended managers
         23    and employees, missteps will occur.  However, when these
         24    problems arise in the future, they will be met by an
         25    organization that is prepared with the resources, the skills
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          1    and the commitment to resolve problems.
          2              In the long run, a safety-conscious work
          3    environment is most beneficial to our endeavor to safely and
          4    efficiently run the Millstone station, to our employees and
          5    their morale and motivation, and ultimately to the nuclear
          6    industry as a benchmark of what can be achieved with the
          7    right mindset.
          8              Consistent with our first core value, it is simply
          9    the right thing to do.
         10              The collaborative efforts of management and the
         11    work force have produced an environment in which workers
         12    raise concerns with the assurance that management supports
         13    their efforts, and with the confidence that the raising of
         14    concerns will not result in retaliation.
         15              Management has actively encouraged the raising of
         16    concerns, rewarded employees who have raised concerns, and
         17    disciplined those who failed to meet management's unbending
         18    prohibition of retaliation.  This is our determined and
         19    sincere commitment to Millstone's safety-conscious work
         20    environment.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         22              Yes?
         23              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Excuse me.  I had to
         24    clear my throat.
         25              Mr. Kenyon said earlier that you think you are
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          1    setting in industry standard now in your safety-conscious
          2    work environment and employee concerns program.  The issue
          3    for a regulator is how long Little Harbor needs to be there
          4    observing this process; through Unit 2 restart, perhaps, or
          5    perhaps not.  Perhaps at that point you intend to transition
          6    the organization, as you said at the outset, to less of a
          7    unit focus, and again there will be a period of
          8    organizational change which you have a plan to manage.
          9              But how long, in your judgment, do we need -- and
         10    it's our judgment ultimately, but what is your opinion as to
         11    having Little Harbor there, and the benefit you get from
         12    something off the line?  It's sort of the equivalent of some
         13    of the checks and balances you outlined earlier that the
         14    board and the various committees provide.
         15              MR. KENYON:  Well, there are several points I
         16    would want to make in response to that.
         17              First of all, with Little Harbor having been
         18    present now for quite some time and being appropriately
         19    critical of some of our earlier activities, it was valuable
         20    in getting the standards to where they needed to be.  The
         21    standards are now there, and certainly we believe they are
         22    there, and we expect Little Harbor to say that as well.
         23              Then the issue becomes implementation of those
         24    standards, and we have a period of time now where we have
         25    been successfully implementing those standards, but it is
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          1    not a long period of time, and whereas we think we have
          2    established a good environment, I would also say that we are
          3    very sensitive to the fragility of that environment as we
          4    continue our efforts to strengthen the levels of trust with
          5    employees.
          6              Now the other thing that's happened is that our
          7    employee concerns oversight panel has come into its own in
          8    terms of being an effective internal organization, and being
          9    very much a check-and-balance and independent review, and
         10    the individual who provides leadership to the organization
         11    is here today.
         12              So we have -- I have more and more confidence in
         13    -- I have good confidence in line management, I have good
         14    confidence in the programs and procedures that are now in
         15    place.  I have good confidence in ECOP as a mechanism to let
         16    me know very clearly and quickly if something is going the
         17    wrong way.  So I, frankly, am quite comfortable without
         18    Little Harbor today.  I'm not here to suggest that Little
         19    Harbor ought to leave tomorrow, but I do think that Little
         20    Harbor's effort can scale back, and I do think as we develop
         21    just more time to show that the track record is clearly a
         22    sustainable track record, I certainly don't see the need for
         23    -- you know, in my judgment as to how we're doing, and you
         24    know, this needs to be an ongoing judgment, but in my
         25    judgment as to how we're doing, I certainly don't think we
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          1    need Little Harbor beyond the restart of Unit 2, and I think
          2    a case could be made for sooner than that.  Whether I would
          3    want to make that case remains to be seen.  But I think we
          4    are talking, you know, a few months as opposed to another
          5    year or so.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, I think the Staff
          7    suggestion is six months beyond the restart.
          8              MR. MORRIS:  And I would also love to hear Little
          9    Harbor's view of that, but the EDO suggested six months,
         10    which seems reasonable.
         11              MR. AMERINE:  If I might just add a footnote, I
         12    mentioned the work section portion of the 1998-2000
         13    performance plan, and in there we plan to continue bringing
         14    in an outside agency to look at -- that's independent of
         15    everyone else on a coordinated basis.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Yes.
         17              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Is the ECOP a long-term unit?
         18              MR. KENYON:  Yes.  Yes, it is, and that's one of
         19    the aspects of the Millstone program that I believe is
         20    unique in the industry where you have a cross section of
         21    employees that are there to independently critique
         22    management's efforts and is part of our program, and we have
         23    no intention of changing that.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         25              I think, you know, that it seems you have done a
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          1    substantial amount.  Fragility is always a concern, given
          2    the historical perspective, and so having the programs in
          3    place, having the proper oversight, including the commitment
          4    from management and having an ability to stay on top of it. 
          5    That's why I was asking the questions about the performance
          6    indicators are all critical, I think, and obviously you
          7    agree.
          8              MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So why don't we hear from Mr.
         10    Brothers.
         11              MR. BROTHERS:  Thank you.
         12              The purpose of my presentation today, as we have
         13    talked about, is to characterize the deferred items, to
         14    describe to you how we are going to manage them.
         15              In addition, I want to demonstrate that Millstone
         16    Unit 3 will be ready to return to power operation by the end
         17    of May 1998.
         18              My presentation will be broken down into three
         19    major areas:
         20              First, I will discuss in broad terms what we have
         21    accomplished during the two years that Unit 3 has been shut
         22    down.
         23              Second, I will characterize the deferrable items
         24    which will remain post-restart, along with the commitments
         25    which we have made to communicate our progress in managing
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          1    the completion of our deferrable items.
          2              This I will discuss as the safe return to power
          3    operation to Millstone Unit 3.
          4              This slide gives a broad overview of our
          5    accomplishments during the past two years on Millstone Unit
          6    3.  Although not one of the topics which we are presenting
          7    as complete today, we are in the process of completing the
          8    certification of a restored design and license basis for
          9    Unit 3.
         10              During this shutdown we've also brought our final
         11    safety analysis report up to date per current regulations. 
         12    As a data point we have processed over 600 FSAR change
         13    requests during the last two years.
         14              We have submitted 26 license amendment requests to
         15    rectify identified problems and/or inconsistencies in our
         16    technical specifications.  We have to date received approval
         17    on 24 of the 26 submitted license amendment requests.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What are the two that are
         19    outstanding, Mr. Brothers; do you know?
         20              MR. BROTHERS:  One associated with inadvertent SI
         21    which is tied to a modification we have left to do and the
         22    next one associated with pressurizer level.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And so you're waiting for the
         24    approval of those from the NRC?
         25              MR. BROTHERS:  Correct.  We've gotten some RAIs
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          1    back and forth.  We are on track for the 21st on inadvertent
          2    SI and the 25th for pressurizer level at this time.
          3              Finally, we have essentially completed our
          4    procedure upgrade program commonly called "PUP" along with
          5    approximately 500 additional procedure changes as a result
          6    of our configuration management program.
          7              Next slide please?
          8              In addition to the restoration of our design and
          9    license basis we have accomplished several major material
         10    upgrades in the unit.  This slide details some of the more
         11    significant upgrades that we have accomplished.  I want to
         12    discuss in some detail the enhancements that we have made to
         13    our control room.
         14              These enhancements include ergonomically designed
         15    operator stations for control operators, unit supervisors,
         16    and shift managers.  Separation of the work control portion
         17    of the control room from the at-the-controls portion in
         18    addition of a shift-manager's conference room.  The
         19    aggregate impact of the control room modifications results
         20    in a net reduction in distractions to our operators while
         21    increasing the professionalism and improving the work
         22    environment of our operations department personnel.
         23              This slide gives an overview of the modifications
         24    complete during this shutdown.  Of the 224 modifications,
         25    182 involve physical work and the remaining 42 were
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          1    administrative in nature.  I'll characterize those a little
          2    more for you.
          3              Out of the 182 that involve physical work 79 were
          4    as a direct result of the configuration management program.
          5    Of the 42 mods which were administrative in nature, 17 were
          6    as a direct result of the configuration management program.
          7              This slide also shows some of the more significant
          8    modifications accomplished as a result of our configuration
          9    management program and modifications which we performed for
         10    other reasons such as plant reliability or long-term costs
         11    savings.  We discussed the CMP-based modifications
         12    extensively with the NRC staff and I would like to point out
         13    that most of Unit 3 is in the non-CMP area, the first
         14    nuclear unit in the United States to accomplish what's on
         15    the slide here as generator stader cooling, but that's a
         16    global stader cooling, epoxy injection repair to our main
         17    generator.
         18              In addition, we have replaced all four of our
         19    reactor coolant pumps with upgraded 93-A-1 pumps.  This
         20    upgrade is a result of a joint design effort between
         21    Westinghouse and Northeast Utilities to redesign the reactor
         22    coolant pump main flange, the number one seal housing and
         23    the number one seal housing closure system.  We're quite
         24    proud of this redesign and we believe we probably have the
         25    best reactor coolant pumps in the world.
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          1              In recognition of our extensive role in solving
          2    the RCP locking bolt problem for the industry we would
          3    retain a proprietary portion of the redesign of the RCP main
          4    flange that will be used to solve this problem throughout
          5    the industry.
          6              This slide demonstrates why our deferrable items
          7    are acceptable for unit restart.  As it says, each item is
          8    reviewed individually by either out plant operating review
          9    committee, our corrective action department, our management
         10    review team, or our expert panel prior to being classified
         11    as deferrable.  In addition to the individual review an
         12    aggregate review has been performed by our probabilistic
         13    risk assessment or commonly referred to as PRA group.  This
         14    review used four criteria to review items which affect
         15    maintenance rule, risk or safety significant systems.
         16              Just briefly going through those criteria, the
         17    first criteria is, does the item have an impact on the
         18    system structure, or component's ability to perform its
         19    intended safety function?
         20              Does the item have an effect on the probability of
         21    the plant transient?  Does the item degrade the operator's
         22    ability to mitigate an accident?  And finally, does the item
         23    impact the ability of the containment system's capability to
         24    mitigate the consequences of an accident.  If any of the
         25    four criteria were met, the item was reclassified as
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          1    non-deferrable.  None of these criteria were met in the
          2    review of the deferrable items list, however, ten items were
          3    conservatively reclassified as required for restart.  This
          4    was based upon injuring judgment and a collaborative
          5    agreement between PRA and the line management.
          6              Nuclear oversight has assessed the overall list
          7    and the numbers and scope are consistent with industry
          8    standards.  I want to emphasize, and the next several slides
          9    will show that we will continue to work off deferrable items
         10    up to restart and post-restart for our deferrable items
         11    management plan which was docketed on March 31st, 1998.
         12              Okay.  This is where it's going to be a challenge. 
         13    The next three slides are an attempt to give you numbers and
         14    at a high level describe our entire deferrable items.  This
         15    slide is more correctly referred to as open deferrable
         16    items, not necessarily deferrable, and I'm going to describe
         17    that in some detail.  I have backup slides if we need
         18    additional information with regard to age.
         19              This is the same format on this slide which I
         20    presented on February 19th.  Since we are initiating
         21    condition reports at a rate of greater than 20 per day, and
         22    each condition report generates approximately 2.5 action
         23    request, the pre-restart corrective action assignments or
         24    the first bullet which are deferrable and open, is expected
         25    to continue to rise.
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          1              The next two slides will provide additional
          2    detail, but to make a point here, the 3,687 open corrective
          3    actions assignments are out of a total population of 10,013
          4    deferrable corrective action assignments.
          5              And the 888 open configuration management items is
          6    out of a total population of 1,350 deferrable configuration
          7    management items.  I hope I'll be able to make this more
          8    clear on the next two slides.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Can I ask you a question?  This
         10    is a random page from your submittal, so it's not totally,
         11    so it's not something you've necessarily seen, but it's more
         12    a generic set of questions.
         13              There's one related to seismic monitor replacement
         14    parts not compatible.  You talked about developing a BOM,
         15    this is just informational, what is a "BOM" for seismic
         16    monitoring?
         17              MR. BROTHERS:  A BOM is a bill of materials.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         19              MR. BROTHERS:  And so it goes down to the
         20    component level for components.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And I noted that this letter
         22    had 52 pages of items removed from the list.  Does that mean
         23    that these were already addressed?
         24              MR. BROTHERS:  Either addressed or reclassified as
         25    not going to be done at all.  Part of what we need to do,
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          1    and I talked to Commissioner Diaz when he was on site, is go
          2    through the list and begin saying, no, versus not now.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.
          4              MR. BROTHERS:  Much of why we've got such a big
          5    list is because we said "not now" versus "no" and so we're
          6    starting to do that --
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So you're going to do a more
          8    refined look?
          9              MR. BROTHERS:  Correct.  And what I'll talk to in
         10    the commitments is two weeks after Mode 2 we're committed to
         11    give you the final list of deferrable pre-restart items.  In
         12    addition, we'll provide you quarterly updates on where we
         13    are.
         14              The next four categories on this site all have
         15    specific goals delineated in operational readiness plan. 
         16    Corrective maintenance has two goals, less than or equal to
         17    500 power block corrective maintenance requests and less
         18    than or equal to 350 maintenance rule corrective maintenance
         19    requests.  The 350 is a subset of the 500 goal.  This is
         20    expected to be at goal prior to Mode 2.
         21              Operator work arounds are presently at 16 vise our
         22    goal of ten.  This slide shows control room deficiencies at
         23    21, as of this morning it is at nine, vise our goal of ten. 
         24    And temporary mods are at goal 15, we expect to have it at
         25    13 prior to restart.  All of the above are expected to be at
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          1    goal prior to entering Mode 2.
          2              The engineering backlog is made up of
          3    enhancements, on-line work and refueling outage work.  It
          4    has been reviewed separately by our PRA group.
          5              Next slide?
          6              The next two slides are intended to further
          7    characterize our deferrable items.  The message here is that
          8    we have completed all of the items required for restarting
          9    and a substantial majority of the items which were in fact
         10    deferrable.
         11              This slide indicates the total population of
         12    restart assignments.  The first bullet, 12,000 is what's
         13    called the significant items required for restart list.  Of
         14    the 22,000 total assignments, 12,000, or the first bullet,
         15    are required to be completed and will be for restart.  The
         16    first bullet is not part of our deferrable items list.
         17              The next bullet, the remaining approximately
         18    10,000 deferrable items which we have currently completed
         19    more than 6,000 of these assignments and we'll continue the
         20    complete these as we move towards restart.  The 10,013 minus
         21    6,326 is a 3,687 number reported as the total open
         22    deferrable items on the previous slide.
         23              There are approximately 270 maintenance work
         24    orders scheduled to be completed prior to Mode 2.  This
         25    should be contrasted with greater than 40,000 maintenance
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          1    work orders completed since our shutdown on March 30th,
          2    1996.
          3              This slide is a subset of the previous slide.  The
          4    first two bullets show the status of items which came
          5    directly from NU's configuration management program.  The
          6    first bullet shows that we have essentially completed all of
          7    the items which are required for restart as a result of our
          8    configuration management program.  This 2,283 is a subset of
          9    the 12,039 on the previous slide and it's not part of our
         10    deferrable items list.  The second bullet shows that we
         11    begin working off deferrable items which came out of our
         12    configuration management program as well.
         13              The difference between 1,350 and 462 is 888.  And
         14    that's the number reported on the deferrable item summary
         15    slide as open, deferrable configuration management items.
         16              The third and fourth bullets shows our status of
         17    our response to the independent corrective action
         18    verification project.  The third bullet shows our progress
         19    in completing the 219 assignments which will be complete
         20    prior to entering Mode 2.  This item is not part of our
         21    deferrable items list.
         22              And the fourth bullet also illustrates that we are
         23    aggressively working off deferrable items in this category
         24    as well.
         25              Once again, I believe that these three slides show
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          1    that we have essentially completed all of the significant
          2    items required for restart.  We have also completed a
          3    substantial majority of those items which are in fact
          4    deferrable.
          5              Recognizing the past performance of Millstone with
          6    regard to improvement plans, we've docketed our commitments
          7    via our deferrable items management plan which will be in
          8    place post-restart.  These two slides summarize the
          9    commitments which will be in place post-restart, and let me
         10    just quickly go through them.
         11              Will provide a baseline of open deferrable items
         12    within two weeks of restart.  We will disposition all ICAVP
         13    or independent corrective action verification project DRs
         14    prior to restart from RFO-6.  We will submit quarterly FSAR
         15    updates vise the requirement of annual.  We will also
         16    provide quarterly submission of our performance against key
         17    issues and deferrable item work down, and those dates have
         18    been documented as of the March 31st submittal.
         19              The next slide details the submissions of the next
         20    two fueling outage license amendment requirements in outage
         21    plants.
         22              In addition, we will submit a post-outage
         23    assessment of our next two refueling outages.
         24              Included in the post-outage assessment of our next
         25    refueling outage, which is our sixth refueling outage,
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          1    scheduled right now for in the probably April time frame of
          2    1999, will be a submission of our final deferrable items
          3    management report.
          4              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Excuse me.  What is the total
          5    scope of your backlog management plan?  Does it include
          6    training?  What areas are included in it?
          7              MR. BROTHERS:  Included in there are action
          8    requests coming from CRs, NCRs, which is a nonconformance
          9    report, DRs that are held over from ICAVP, everything that's
         10    in the corrective action program is in fact included in the
         11    deferrable items plan.
         12              If a training item one way or another gets into
         13    the corrective action program, it will go into the
         14    deferrable plan.
         15              Now there's a pre-restart item portion and a
         16    post-restart portion of the deferrable items management
         17    plan.  But the only reason a training item would get in
         18    there is if it in fact had a corrective action component.
         19              Shifting gears now to training.  This slide
         20    summarizes the training that we have accomplished during
         21    this shutdown.  As of today, we have sent approximately 97
         22    percent of all first line supervisors and above to our Forum
         23    for Leadership Excellence.  The Forum for Leadership
         24    Excellence is a two-week program which pulls together the
         25    personal aspects of Covey Seven Habits Training and team
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          1    skills into a leadership improvement program.
          2              Configuration management training has been
          3    accomplished for 100 percent of our employees and long-term
          4    contractors.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you a question, Mr.
          6    Brothers.  How do you know the training has worked?  What do
          7    you look for?
          8              MR. BROTHERS:  In the case of the Forum for
          9    Leadership Excellence, one of the keys is keeping it going,
         10    and we had follow-up groups and projects that each of the
         11    classes had to in fact accomplish and develop follow-up
         12    plans for.  That went very well until about the November
         13    time frame, and we more or less de-emphasized it for
         14    November, December, January.  We are starting to
         15    re-emphasize that now because we recognize the key to this
         16    is in fact keeping it going and inculcating the entire group
         17    into this way of doing business.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I guess really what I am asking
         19    is do you have a metrics built into performance appraisal
         20    that relate to what you expect people to gain from this
         21    training, that you then actually assess them against, as
         22    part of their -- you know, in terms of how they carry out
         23    their jobs as part of their performance appraisals.
         24              MR. BROTHERS:  In our performance monitoring plan,
         25    we have included in what we call a link system components
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          1    that are primarily with regard to the safety-conscious work
          2    environment.  There are leadership aspects as well, and they
          3    are specifically assessed for each individual, both
          4    supervisory and non-supervisory.
          5              MR. MORRIS:  And the leadership assessment is
          6    clearly another key input.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  And that's linked to the
          8    actual training?
          9              MR. MORRIS:  Yes, exactly.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         11              MR. BROTHERS:  Okay.  As I said, the configuration
         12    management training has been accomplished for 100 percent of
         13    our employees and long-term contractors.  More extensive
         14    training in this area has been accomplished for areas such
         15    as design engineering and tech support engineering.  This
         16    training is a central part of our 50.54 Foxtrot question 4
         17    response to ensure that our design basis and licensing basis
         18    is maintained on a going-forward basis.
         19              Enhanced 50.59 or safety evaluation training has
         20    been completed for personnel performing safety evaluations
         21    or safety evaluation screens.  This, along with a continuing
         22    effective presence of our nuclear safety assessment board,
         23    safety evaluation subcommittee, has significantly raised our
         24    performance in the area of safety evaluations and safety
         25    evaluation screens.
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          1              Finally, extensive operator training has been
          2    accomplished in our operations department.  This training
          3    includes training in all modifications which affect the way
          4    the operators operate the plant.  A trio of reactivity
          5    management conservative decision-making and start-up power
          6    and ascension training has been completed for all licensed
          7    and non-licensed operations personnel.
          8              All of this training is in addition to the
          9    safety-conscious work environment training previously
         10    discussed by Dave Amerine.
         11              This slide shows our organization's readiness
         12    assessment as of 4/21/98.  This methodology complements the
         13    nuclear oversight restart verification plan by assessing
         14    departmental readiness, whereas the nuclear oversight
         15    restart verification plan assesses issue or programmatic
         16    readiness.
         17              The easiest way to make this distinction is on
         18    this slide, when you look at some corrective action,
         19    corrective action on this slide is assessing the
         20    effectiveness of our corrective action department.  In the
         21    nuclear oversight restart verification plan, they are
         22    assessing the effectiveness of the corrective action process
         23    across the station.  So there's a complementary aspect to
         24    this to the NORVP.
         25              With the above explanation in mind, let me discuss
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          1    the one department which assesses as not yet at goal but
          2    tracking to satisfactory for Millstone Unit 3.
          3              Work planning and outage management has assessed
          4    its tracking to satisfactory based upon schedule adherence
          5    not yet being at our operational goal, and we have two:  75
          6    percent of our scheduled activities starting on time, and
          7    the second one, 70 percent of scheduled activities completed
          8    on time.
          9              Our current percentages are 43 and 37 percent,
         10    respectively.  This week is the second week in which we have
         11    transitioned into our on-line or 12-week rolling schedule,
         12    and we are expected to be at goal prior to entering Mode 2. 
         13    We expect all departments to remain at goal, and we are
         14    planning to be at goal prior to entering into Mode 2.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Have you gotten to the nub of,
         16    you know, what's inhibiting you in that area in terms of
         17    starting on time and completing on time?
         18              MR. BROTHERS:  Yes, we have.  The nub, as you
         19    referred to it, is the operations department work release
         20    process is making a decision at the shift level not to
         21    release work that was planned, and we sent the respective
         22    managers off site two days ago to address exactly that, and
         23    what we are doing to address that is pulling one of our most
         24    experienced shift managers off shift to work with work
         25    planning to augment that planning aspect.
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          1              We already had three SROs in work planning, and we
          2    are now augmenting that with a shift manager who is aware of
          3    what the problems the shift is seeing in releasing work.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  As you have heated up,
          5    had you had any chemistry clean-up problems?
          6              MR. BROTHERS:  Chemistry clean-up?  Not yet.  We
          7    have had some issues with regard to our increased
          8    conformance to DEP regulations, and -- but it's not
          9    chemistry clean-up.  The condensate system has been on long
         10    recycle for some time.  It's now feeding forward.  We don't
         11    have a chemistry problem at this time.  We do have ETA
         12    injection on the secondary side which is ethanol amine,
         13    which is -- cuts out the iron transport, so we don't expect
         14    a problem.
         15              Final slide, please.
         16              In summary, Unit 3 will be ready to resume safe
         17    operation by the end of May.  As I stated earlier, this is
         18    based upon the design and licensing basis being
         19    substantially restored.  Our material condition is very
         20    good, and all required modifications will be completed prior
         21    to entering Mode 2.
         22              Our deferrable items have been reviewed for
         23    individual and risk-based aggregate impact, and are
         24    consistent with industry standards.
         25              Finally, the overall organization is adequately
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          1    staffed and qualified to support Unit 3's return to power
          2    operation.
          3              This concludes my presentation.  If there are no
          4    further questions, I will turn it over to Marty Bowling to
          5    discuss management oversight and controls.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Any questions?  Please.
          7              MR. BOWLING:  Good morning.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good morning.
          9              MR. BOWLING:  If I could have the first slide,
         10    please.
         11              Today I would like to discuss with you an area
         12    that has been very important to our recovery effort,
         13    critical self-assessment.  I can tell you that the entire
         14    Millstone work force team recognizes that critical
         15    self-assessment is the key to improved performance and
         16    preventing complacency, and that is why self-assessment has
         17    been designated as one of the 16 key issues.
         18              The key elements of effective self-assessment
         19    which have been accomplished at Millstone are shown on this
         20    slide and encompass promoting a questioning attitude, which
         21    is also fundamental to our achieving a safety-conscious work
         22    environment; lowering the threshold in identifying issues in
         23    order to find problems earlier, before they become more
         24    significant; and setting and raising standards to compare
         25    our performance to the highest standards, and once that
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          1    level is achieved, to raise the bar.
          2              Chairman Jackson, going back to your earlier
          3    question, I think is a good example of the raising the bar
          4    with respect to corrective action, and as Unit 3 goes into
          5    operation, the performance goals, 3 percent overdue,
          6    completion of corrective action in 120 days, and how that
          7    will be impacted with the still ongoing recovery of Unit 2,
          8    which has the similar corrective action success goals.
          9              What we are going to do, we are going to raise
         10    that standard on Unit 3.  The standard to -- for recovery
         11    and restart is not acceptable for us for going forward into
         12    operation.  So as we go into operation, that standard will
         13    be lowered to 1 percent overdue, and 90 days for completion
         14    of corrective action.  And the organization will be judged
         15    against that on our way to what is really acceptable, and
         16    that's nothing overdue.
         17              The Millstone self-assessment program that has
         18    been developed and implemented during this recovery is
         19    comprehensive.  There are sitewide employee support and
         20    implementation of the program.  Key characteristics of their
         21    program include formal annual plans; dedicated coordinators
         22    in each of the units; sitewide procedure to provide
         23    consistent direction and format; training of employees; and
         24    use of INPO and industry experts to set and raise standards;
         25    and frequent self-assessment of the program effectiveness.
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          1              More detail on this key issue is provided in the
          2    issue book which was submitted to you on April 23rd.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How big a change is this for
          4    the station?
          5              MR. BOWLING:  The self-assessment program?  Having
          6    the sitewide -- the program has evolved over the recovery
          7    from not having a program, which was, of course, a key
          8    causal factor in the degraded declining performance, to
          9    individual units starting programs to evolving to a common
         10    program for the site that's embraced and where each
         11    department has its annual plan, and the activities of
         12    self-assessment.
         13              This next slide, I think, may go to the heart of
         14    your question.  This slide shows the results obtained from
         15    440 workers, or approximately 15 percent of the on-site work
         16    force.  The survey, incidentally, was sent to about 20
         17    percent, so -- or about 600, so a very good response, which
         18    was voluntary.
         19              The survey, which was taken in March, was directed
         20    at understanding worker support of and involvement in
         21    self-assessment.  The results provide meaningful insight
         22    into whether Millstone has been successful in instilling a
         23    questioning attitude into its culture.
         24              The results from this survey are encouraging and
         25    correlate well with the results from the Little Harbor
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          1    structured interviews on self-assessment, and questioning
          2    attitude.
          3              With respect to the specifics, a very high
          4    percentage of the work force has participated in at least
          5    one self-assessment, much greater than 91 percent, of which
          6    three -- 91 percent have participated in three or more
          7    assessments during the last six months, and I think that is
          8    the fundamental change, is that we have the whole work force
          9    engaged in self-assessment.
         10              94 percent see useful results being attained from
         11    self-assessment, which correlates well with the 92 percent
         12    obtained in the latest Little Harbor interviews.  83 percent
         13    indicated that they are being made aware of self-assessment
         14    results.
         15              Now this is a lower percentage than recorded by
         16    Little Harbor, and an area we are now focusing on.
         17              And finally, 94 percent had confidence that
         18    corrective actions would be taken.
         19              Millstone has also continued to lower the
         20    threshold in identifying problems.  The number of condition
         21    reports written to identify a potential nonconforming
         22    condition has increased remarkably during this recovery. 
         23    This is a direct result of the questioning attitude that
         24    characterizes our work force at Millstone.
         25              Millstone is also systematically looking for
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          1    issues before they become more significant by conducting a
          2    wide range of formal self-assessments that encompass all of
          3    our organizational functions and programs.  These formal
          4    self-assessments are in addition to the ongoing plant
          5    walkdowns and training observations expected from good
          6    management practices.
          7              For the self-assessments completed to date in
          8    1998, a strong focus has been placed on assessing the
          9    adequacy of corrective actions, safety evaluations, and
         10    configuration management controls.
         11              In addition, the self-assessment program itself is
         12    periodically assessed against the performance objective
         13    criteria contained in INPO 97-002.
         14              For Millstone Unit 3, the remaining 1998
         15    self-assessment program will focus on sustaining performance
         16    post-restart for both the key site issues and the Unit 3
         17    operational organization.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Are these self-assessments done
         19    by one or two-person teams, or how are they done?
         20              MR. BOWLING:  Within the departments, generally
         21    it's a two to three, a small team.  Some of the programmatic
         22    issues are three or larger team.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I see.
         24              MR. BOWLING:  We'll be periodically providing the
         25    NRC the results of these performance assessments, including
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          1    key operational performance indicators as part of the Unit 3
          2    sustaining performance plan.
          3              At this point I want to make clear that we are not
          4    perfect.  Results from our own assessments, external reviews
          5    and, in some cases, NRC inspections have identified areas
          6    that we missed, but we have learned from these experiences
          7    by expanding the scope of our current efforts and, in many
          8    cases, doing additional scope.
          9              Several recent examples for self-assessment has
         10    been taken and include review of all significant Unit 3
         11    modifications implemented during this outage to make sure
         12    the problems similar to those found on the RSS modifications
         13    are not present.
         14              These effort encompassed the review of 194 design
         15    packages that had been undertaken on Unit 3 over the last
         16    several years.
         17              In addition, all of the condition reports -- and
         18    there are thousands of them -- that pertain to engineering
         19    performance were screened to determine basic causal factors
         20    so that this self-assessment team would be focused as they
         21    went into these modification packages on what to look for. 
         22    And then, in addition, we took all of the various
         23    modification packages, and there are a number of them, on
         24    the RSS system itself and did the independent
         25    self-assessment review.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So all of these
          2    self-assessments were post-RSS situation?
          3              MR. BOWLING:  Yes; right.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Propagating into the lessons
          5    learned from them?
          6              MR. BOWLING:  Right.  In addition to the direct
          7    root cause on the RSS vibrational failure.  This is a scope
          8    expansion part of it.
          9              Of course, we were interested in two things:  What
         10    is the overall quality of the engineering that has been
         11    performed on Unit 3?  And as you know, that's been done not
         12    only by our in-house staff, but by a number of architect and
         13    engineering and other specialty firms.
         14              Also we were interested in the effectiveness of
         15    our configuration management reviews which were to catch and
         16    to fix problems of this nature.
         17              And, finally, we wanted to understand if we were
         18    over-relying on our last barrier, the testing, to catch
         19    design problems.  And the results of that, we did find one
         20    or two where that was evident, and -- but the vast majority
         21    of the design was deemed to be of acceptable quality.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What is your judgment about
         23    engineering?
         24              MR. BOWLING:  The -- my bottom line judgment is
         25    that our engineering quality has found and is capable of
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          1    finding the significant issues and taking the corrective
          2    action to address those from a safety standpoint.  But by
          3    the same token, this recovery outage has far and large
          4    impacted our technical resources.  It's been a very, very
          5    technical outage versus a physical modification outage.
          6              Any time that we have the engineers at that level
          7    of work requirements leads to smaller problems, particularly
          8    in the attention to detail, calculational errors, and minor
          9    administrative nonconformances.  And so we see that in well
         10    above any standard that we have.  So it's attention to
         11    detail needs, needs attention.
         12              A second example of compliance -- a second example
         13    are review of compliance to the administrative or Section 6
         14    of the technical specifications.  After several findings
         15    were identified by the NRC, our review has been 100 percent.
         16              The third example is additional review of the FSAR
         17    accuracy from the perspective of the interface between the
         18    NSSS and the architect-engineer design scopes, based on the
         19    ICAVP contractor-identified discrepancy reports.
         20              There are many other examples, but you should have
         21    confidence that Millstone now has the culture that wants to
         22    learn from its mistakes.
         23              A key assessment tool that is being used is the
         24    unit windows.  We have shown you this window at several of
         25    our previous meetings, and Mike Brothers just also talked
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          1    about it, because it rolls up our overall unit
          2    organizational readiness for restart.
          3              You should know that a comprehensive set of
          4    criteria and evaluation have fed into this roll-up.  This
          5    approach will be transitioned to an organization that is
          6    operating.  The power of this tool is that it allows
          7    management to set and communicate the standards.
          8              The way I look at this is that all green windows
          9    mean that the organization has met excellence as defined by
         10    its management.  In order not to have complacency set it,
         11    management must continually tighten or raise the acceptance
         12    criteria for each window, and that's exactly what we are
         13    going to do.  In doing so, management provides a systematic
         14    approach and a powerful communication tool for raising
         15    standards.  The next time you see this window, it's going to
         16    be yellow and some red.
         17              I have talked up to this point on the
         18    self-assessment program.  The next several slides show the
         19    effectiveness of the program.
         20              The first critical success criteria is shown on
         21    this slide and demonstrates that a high percentage of the
         22    potentially nonconforming conditions are being identified by
         23    the Millstone work force.  This is an especially important
         24    conclusion, given the unprecedented amount of the NRC and
         25    independent third-party inspection being performed at
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          1    Millstone.
          2              With the questioning attitude and high standards
          3    now being exhibited at Millstone, you should have high
          4    confidence that Millstone can find its own problems.  Even
          5    more important is the fact that Millstone is finding those
          6    issues that are most important to nuclear safety.
          7              The Millstone Unit 3 reviews conducted to restore
          8    conformance to the design and licensing basis have been
          9    extensive.  The third party ICAVP and NRC inspections have
         10    provided additional assurance that all important safety
         11    issues have been identified and are being corrected.
         12              The next slide shows our self-assessment of
         13    corrective action effectiveness.  It just goes without
         14    saying that in order to have an effective self-assessment
         15    program, you must have an effective corrective action
         16    program as well.  Our current assessment indicates that we
         17    still have not met our current standards for backlogs and
         18    organizational readiness, although considerable progress has
         19    been made.  Post-restart, the criteria for each of these
         20    areas will be refocused and heightened as we raise the
         21    standards.
         22              Although I will talk in more detail about
         23    corrective actions at our next meeting, I wanted to show you
         24    where we now stand on fixing items that have been
         25    identified.  As you know, significant items identify
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          1    Millstone, NRC or third party independent contractors that
          2    affect safety, licensing basis, design basis, conformance or
          3    compliance with NRC regulations, have or will be completed
          4    prior to restart.  But, in addition, a substantial amount of
          5    other improvement items are being completed.
          6              To reinforce that point that Mike Brothers
          7    discussed, 63 percent of the assignments that could be
          8    deferred post-restart, in accordance with NRC criteria, are
          9    already completed.
         10              In addition to the formal self-assessment programs
         11    and the high questioning attitude of Millstone employees, we
         12    have also established a multi-management review process to
         13    both review performance and to raise standards.  These
         14    processes are discussed in more detail in our March 31st
         15    response which was provided pursuant to 10 CFR 5054(f). 
         16    Many of these processes were also evaluated by the NRC in
         17    the 40500 and OSTI inspections.
         18              I have categorized these management processes in
         19    three broad areas which are shown in this and the next
         20    slide.  The most important review in standards raising in
         21    the safety standards area have been in the preparation of
         22    safety evaluations.  This has been accomplished through the
         23    Plant Operating Review Committee and the Nuclear Safety
         24    Assessment Board raising of standards.  The safety
         25    evaluation process, program and training have been enhanced. 
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          1    Safety evaluations performed when the organization was at
          2    lower standards have been re-reviewed and, if necessary,
          3    brought up to standard.  And self-assessments, including an
          4    INPO assist visit, were conducted.
          5              As a result, the quality of safety evaluations has
          6    significantly improved.  For example, the Nuclear Safety
          7    Assessment Board has evaluated the quality of the safety
          8    evaluations it has reviewed over the past two years.  In
          9    1997, 776 safety evaluations were reviewed, with only one
         10    rated unsatisfactory in the second quarter, that was in the
         11    second quarter of '97, and 26, or approximately 3 percent,
         12    rated as needing improvement.  And when it needs improvement
         13    it is sent back to the Plant Operating Review Committee so
         14    that they know that they have approved something that didn't
         15    meet the higher level review standard.  Through the first
         16    quarter of 1998, all safety evaluations have been rated
         17    satisfactory on Millstone Unit 3.
         18              To accomplish this performance, standards have
         19    been set and reinforced, especially by the Plant Operating
         20    Review Committee.  For example, Unit 3 has tabled with
         21    comments about 10 percent of the safety evaluations that are
         22    reviewed.  As a result, and since most of these come out of
         23    the engineering organization, Unit 3 engineering has gone
         24    through a quarterly self-assessment of its safety
         25    evaluations and safety screens, performed by a supervisory
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          1    group.
          2              The results from these self-assessments show a
          3    decrease of 41 percent of the documents receiving a weak
          4    grade in mid-1997 to only about 2 percent receiving a weak
          5    grade in March of '98.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  This Independent Safety
          7    Engineering Group is specific to Unit 3?
          8              MR. BOWLING:  The ISEG is required by the Unit 3
          9    technical specific.  It is located in the Nuclear Site
         10    Organization, so it has the capability to look broader
         11    across the site, but its regulatory requirement is for Unit
         12    3.
         13              The Unit 3 engineering group is also reviewing
         14    independently all of its safety evaluation screens.  These
         15    are the screens that determine whether a detailed safety
         16    evaluation under 5059 is required.  And each of these is
         17    independently reviewed prior to approval.  Also, the
         18    responsible engineering supervisor is attending the Plant
         19    Operating Review Committees which are reviewing his group's
         20    prepared safety evaluation.
         21              At the Nuclear Safety Assessment Board level, five
         22    of the officers, including myself, Mike, Dave and John, who
         23    are here today, spend routinely one and a half days each
         24    month on safety reviews of both specific technical items and
         25    the functioning of programs important to ensuring nuclear
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          1    safety.
          2              Finally, we are now initiating an additional
          3    training of up to three days for all Millstone workers who
          4    perform safety evaluation screens or prepare safety
          5    evaluations.  You can have a high confidence that if a
          6    change will result -- there's an unresolved safety question,
          7    it will be identified, and that if a change is unsafe, it
          8    will not be made.
          9              In the area of program standards, the dedicated
         10    Independent Review Team Group has been used to look at a
         11    number of diverse areas that provide insight on management
         12    and organizational effectiveness.  These reviews range from
         13    significant operating issues to critical program reviews of
         14    operator training, self-assessment, configuration management
         15    and the safety evaluation program.
         16              It is especially noteworthy that in the area of
         17    human performance standards we have strong and committed
         18    executive participation from the Executive Board which
         19    covers any actions that may not be consistent with the
         20    safety conscious work environment and the Executive Training
         21    Council, which provides oversight of changes to the training
         22    program.
         23              In addition, management has conducted stand downs
         24    and coaching to improve human performance in the areas of
         25    procedural compliance and personnel safety.  With respect to
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          1    human performance, the key performance indicators have been
          2    developed for this important area.  Our goal here is that 95
          3    percent of the human performance events will be of low
          4    significant or precursor events, that is, they are caught
          5    either by self-checking or the first possible barrier in the
          6    process, as opposed to a near miss, which multiple barriers
          7    have failed or an actual event.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  To what do you attribute the
          9    drop off between February and March?
         10              MR. BOWLING:  On Unit 3 it shows we are not yet
         11    hitting our goal.  We have had several operational events
         12    that were previously discussed this morning, and the level
         13    of activities that have increased that are new and different
         14    relative for the site since it has been in the recovery
         15    period.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I mean do you think -- but I am
         17    talking about in this specific period.  Do you see that as
         18    related to the push to restart?
         19              MR. BOWLING:  I don't see it as -- particularly
         20    the operational events, which we looked at very, very
         21    closely through structured interviews with all the people
         22    affected, and schedule driven was not a factor.  However,
         23    level of activity is definitely.
         24              Now, in order to address this issue, we plan to
         25    accomplish this by shifting the focus of our organization
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          1    from recovery to operations.  In addition to management
          2    focus on operations, we will also be addressing attention to
          3    detail issues in order to raise standards.  This will
          4    require setting a more realistic expectation and schedule
          5    for engineering and taking the lessons learned from the
          6    ICAVP reviews to improve our critical calculations and other
          7    corrective actions from an attention to detail standpoint.
          8              My overall assessment, however, at this point is
          9    that Millstone human performance is acceptable for the
         10    conduct of safe operation but still requires substantial
         11    management focus to meet the high standards that we have
         12    set.  Procedure adherence is achieving our goal but
         13    management focus is still being given, especially in the
         14    area of administrative program procedures.
         15              Finally, two new organizations have been
         16    established by management to self-assess and raise standards
         17    in the critical area of configuration control.  Unit
         18    configuration management teams consisting of about 10
         19    personnel each have been implemented on Units 2 and 3. 
         20    These groups monitor the change process in the unit to
         21    ensure conformance to design and licensing basis.
         22              The engineering assurance group self-assesses the
         23    implementation and effectiveness of the design control
         24    program which is a critical element of overall configuration
         25    management.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Are these temporary or
          2    permanent organizations?
          3              MR. BOWLING:  At this point we have no plans to
          4    change the organizations that we are working on to evolve to
          5    they are included in that organization.
          6              In summary, I believe that Millstone has
          7    demonstrated an effective management self-assessment
          8    program.  The key elements for effectiveness, employee
          9    questioning attitude, a low threshold for
         10    self-identification, and a desire to learn from our
         11    mistakes, a comprehensive formal program, a multi-layered
         12    and tiered management oversight process, and a leadership
         13    team committed to raising standards are in place and
         14    functioning.
         15              You can have high confidence that the
         16    self-assessment is effective at Millstone and will support
         17    the conduct of safe operations.
         18              If there are no further questions?
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Commissioner Diaz?
         20              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes, I have a comment and a
         21    question.  First, I was reassured to hear from you that you
         22    don't believe you are perfect, I was beginning to be
         23    concerned.
         24              But, second and more seriously, throughout this
         25    presentation and these previous one, we have seen a very
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          1    robust recovery organization that has many layers and has
          2    many ways of, you know, cross-reference, cross-checking and,
          3    of course, that has helped you put this work together.
          4              But how are you going to be sure that the
          5    functions are captured when you go to a more probably
          6    effective, more efficient operations organization?  Is that
          7    something in your plan that --
          8              MR. BOWLING:  Well, I think that has really
          9    incumbent on the leadership team.  I think you heard Bruce
         10    Kenyon say the balance in the organization is critical.
         11              My entire background is an advocate of the
         12    multi-layer, multi-tiered safety nets.  I come from that
         13    background and I am factoring that into the new
         14    organization.
         15              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Mr. Kenyon.
         16              MR. KENYON:  Well, we will take each step
         17    carefully.  As I indicated in my remarks, I also am a strong
         18    believer in checks and balances.  So we are not going to do
         19    anything to take away the checks and balances.  We could
         20    take an organization that functions on Unit X and an
         21    organization on Unit Y and put it together for greater
         22    efficiency, but we will not take away the checks and
         23    balances.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Mr. Brothers, do you have any
         25    comments?
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          1              MR. BROTHERS:  Yes.  I would agree with that, and
          2    add one additional thing that is very high on my list, and
          3    that is the use of performance indicators.  We, the
          4    organization, when we started in the recovery, viewed
          5    performance indicators as a report card versus a management
          6    tool, and they are learning now that it both a report card
          7    and a management tool, and I believe that that will be
          8    fundamental in keeping those robust going forward.
          9              We have 70 performance indicators that we review
         10    on a weekly basis.  Most of those will transition directly
         11    into an operating status and that will prevent it as well.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So, again, it comes down to
         13    programs and organization, oversight, including management
         14    committee, and the use of performance indicators to stay on
         15    top of things.
         16              MR. MORRIS:  And a cultural shift in how you
         17    believe in that.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  We are going to hear
         19    from Mr. Streeter.
         20              MR. STREETER:  Thank you.  At the December 1997
         21    briefing of the Commission, we expressed our view at that
         22    time that nuclear oversight was ready to support restart. 
         23    The information that I am going to present to you today,
         24    part of which we have already discussed, will indicate to
         25    you the basis, my basis for being here today to confidently,
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          1    and without reservation, reaffirm that we are ready to
          2    support restart.
          3              In addition to that, I will share with you efforts
          4    that we have underway that will assess the readiness of the
          5    other organizations at Millstone to support a safe restart
          6    and future safe operations.
          7              The nuclear oversight function today is -- it is
          8    remarkably different than it was two years ago.  I don't
          9    know how to say it other than that.  And that --
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Did it exist two years ago?
         11              MR. STREETER:  Pardon me?
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Did it exist two years ago?
         13              MR. STREETER:  Yes, it did.  I can't tell you that
         14    it existed -- I don't know if it had that precise title,
         15    but, yes, it did exist.  I guess that's the point that I am
         16    trying to make.
         17              A couple of years ago, as has been referred to
         18    before, the oversight function was tolerated as a regulatory
         19    burden, viewed as having little value.  Conversely, today we
         20    see we enjoy the support of management.  We have a robust
         21    organization that is increasingly being valued and
         22    appreciated by the line.
         23              I am going to say a lot today about the
         24    receptiveness of the line to the oversight function and the
         25    oversight function becoming an integral part of the team. 
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          1    But let me assure everyone here, we understand our role.  We
          2    understand our role of objectively challenging activities
          3    that are going on, and to evaluate them against high
          4    standards.  And I don't want there to be no mistake about
          5    that.  No one in my organization misunderstands that.
          6              However, you can do that professionally and
          7    without doing it in an acrimonious manner and a
          8    controversial approach.  So you can work within a team
          9    environment and yet maintain the objectivity necessary to
         10    carry out our regulatory responsibilities, and we are doing
         11    that.
         12              The new leadership team at the table here today
         13    has emphasized its expectations to all members of the line
         14    organization of the importance it attached to the nuclear
         15    oversight function and its expectation that it will become
         16    an integral and important part of the project.
         17              Going yet beyond that, management has taken the
         18    step to empower Nuclear Oversight to set standards above the
         19    minimum requirements.  Faced with this new support of
         20    management and this challenge to establish and assure
         21    adherence to increasingly higher standards, the Nuclear
         22    Oversight Organization is reinvigorated with this sense of
         23    value and they are responding.  They are responding through
         24    the calibre of their performance and, through that, they are
         25    commanding the respect and the acceptance of the
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          1    organization.
          2              The measures we have taken to improve the
          3    acceptance and performance of Oversight have clearly
          4    increased the standards of the work activities in making a
          5    contribution to Millstone, the recovery, that I will go
          6    through in a little bit.
          7              But I also want to state one thing right up front,
          8    don't view my positive remarks and my confidence in the
          9    Nuclear Oversight Organization to Support Restart to be
         10    overconfidence that might build in complacency and think we
         11    are perfect.  We aren't.  We have got a long ways to go.  We
         12    are what we consider to be an elite level of performance,
         13    but we are going to get there, and we will work toward that
         14    end.  But we have a lot of self-assessments, continuing
         15    self-assessments and have to continue to foster a continuous
         16    improvement attitude among our staff.  And that not only
         17    holds true with the Nuclear Oversight, but you have heard
         18    similar comments from the other organizations as well.
         19              In recovering the capability of the Nuclear
         20    Oversight Organization, that was really governed by two key
         21    objectives.  One is to reestablish the capability of the
         22    organization itself.  And then the second one is to apply
         23    that capability to an assessment of the organizations to
         24    give them critical assessments so that they can take the
         25    necessary corrective action to increase their level of
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          1    performance and assure that we were ready for return to
          2    operations.
          3              The first effort was accomplished by a formal,
          4    what we call, entitled, the Nuclear Oversight Recovery Plan. 
          5    The second was accomplished by what you might say, a subset
          6    of that, which was Nuclear Oversight Restart Verification
          7    Plan, where we assess the performance of other
          8    organizations.
          9              The Nuclear Oversight Recovery Plan was developed
         10    by reviewing the results, comments of Oversight's
         11    performance, it was contained in a variety of documents,
         12    including NRC inspection reports, NU observations and other
         13    external assessments relating to the criticisms or
         14    opportunities that Oversight had to improve its performance.
         15              What we did was, in addressing those, those issues
         16    in a formal program, we built upon the experience that other
         17    sites who have gone through similar recoveries.  We built
         18    upon their experience in coming up with a formal recovery
         19    plan to delineate each one of those shortcomings and coming
         20    up with actions to remedy them.
         21              Through that Nuclear Oversight Recovery Plan, it
         22    has resulted in the transformation of the organization. 
         23    That transformation, as I alluded to before, it has been
         24    manifested in improved performance and, actually, in the
         25    field demonstration of the capability of the organization. 
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          1    Through the completion of this Nuclear Oversight Recovery
          2    Plan and the demonstration of the capability in the field,
          3    this enabled the Nuclear Safety Assessment Board, as has
          4    been mentioned before, to say that the Nuclear Oversight is
          5    prepared and capable of performing its regulatory functions.
          6              The Nuclear Oversight Recovery Plan, it was
          7    initiated in 1996.  It was detailed and it included almost
          8    200 action items, 179, and it had several important
          9    elements, one of which was to assure that management
         10    expectations at the highest level were expressed on the
         11    value and importance of oversight in the organization.  We
         12    defined the roles and responsibilities of folks within the
         13    Nuclear Oversight, so there is no misunderstanding on their
         14    part about what their responsibilities were.  We increased
         15    the staffing and changed the staffing to make it a more
         16    effective organization.  We have improved our processes and
         17    procedures to assure alignment with past commitments that we
         18    have made from Nuclear Oversight, and we have instilled some
         19    measurement and feedback tools to assure us that we are on
         20    the right track.
         21              I would like to mention that this recovery plan,
         22    when it was formulated, included the involvement of my
         23    fellow Millstone officers.  They come from a variety of
         24    backgrounds, with some plants that had very respectable
         25    performance, and we used that information, because they had
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          1    views on what an effective Oversight Organization, how it
          2    functioned.  We used that to build into the plan their ideas
          3    on how we could make nuclear oversight better.
          4              Through all that, we ended up closing the Nuclear
          5    Oversight Recovery Plan in 1997, December 1997.  Now, what
          6    that means is, and I'll get into this in a minute, the
          7    Nuclear Oversight Recovery Plan initially had several
          8    provisions for assessing performance.  We took those
          9    provisions, incorporated them into the separate Nuclear
         10    Oversight Restart Verification Program, and we also have,
         11    through the assessments we conducted, the needs for
         12    training, have some follow-on activities that we will
         13    capture in our tracking system to assure they are completed. 
         14    Such as assuring that our surveillance personnel are also
         15    qualified for auditors and vice versa, so it increases the
         16    flexibility and the value of our organization.
         17              Speaking to the transformation of the nuclear
         18    oversight organization as a result of this plan, there are
         19    some very, very significant things I would draw your
         20    attention to.
         21              One is we have about doubled our staff in this
         22    period.  Now this isn't just because we also added people to
         23    the functions that existed at that time such as in the audit
         24    and surveillance area.  But we also added some functions
         25    such as the Independent Safety Evaluation Group that Marty
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          1    mentioned before, and in a few other activities like that. 
          2    Through this staff enhancement -- now this is what I
          3    consider to be a vital component of any effective
          4    organization, and I'm very proud to say that about
          5    two-thirds of those individuals have four-year technical
          6    degrees.  Now this is not taking credit for -- not double
          7    counting, taking credit for bachelor's degree and advanced
          8    degrees, it's not taking credit for the two-year technical
          9    degrees, but I can say that two-thirds of that organization
         10    have this kind of background.
         11              Now the reason that's so important is to have
         12    credibility and to have acceptance for people that you're
         13    overseeing.  They have to have an appreciation that you know
         14    what you're talking about.  So this is the reason that this
         15    is vitally important, and through my experience I know of no
         16    other nuclear oversight organization or comparable
         17    organization that approaches this type of credentials in
         18    their -- from an academic standpoint.
         19              Now 13 or about 10 to 15 percent are professional
         20    engineers.  Now here's another thing that I view as -- I'm
         21    very proud of and I think is extremely significant for the
         22    success of Millstone.  About a third of these folks have
         23    either been licensed as senior reactor operators or
         24    operators, not only the Millstone, but we get a variety of
         25    backgrounds from other plants in the country, or they have
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          1    been -- have gone through a certification process.
          2              Now my experience is that I was happy in an
          3    organization like this if I could somehow work up to ten
          4    percent.  Here we're at almost a third of our total staff. 
          5    This is vitally important to us now, especially now, as we
          6    are going into a situation where we are restoring Unit 3 to
          7    operations that we have folks who are capable to assess the
          8    quality of operations that have been there, done that, so to
          9    speak and know the right standards performance.  As a matter
         10    of fact, right now we have 24-hour coverage on Unit 3 as it
         11    is proceeding on up the ladder by many of these same people
         12    that have these operating experience backgrounds.
         13              Now in addition to that, in addition to those
         14    credentials, we have increased the overall industry
         15    experience level of those folks, and I would say on the
         16    average of the total organization excluding administrative
         17    staff we're probably in the vicinity of 20 years' experience
         18    of these folks.
         19              Now this experience background is from -- it comes
         20    from a variety of sources.  Again I'll say not only on
         21    Millstone, because we made a very, very obvious attempt to
         22    gather experience not be tunnel-visioned just in looking --
         23    using Millstone experience, but going outside and getting
         24    ideas and better ways of doing business so we have it from
         25    other plants, we have it from INPO, and we have it from the
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          1    NRC.  So we've got a lot of varied perspectives on how to do
          2    business, and they're helping us.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Yes.
          4              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  One of the groups this
          5    afternoon is going to -- the Citizens Regulatory Council --
          6    has a bullet labeled personnel turnover rates.  As you built
          7    up, have you also had a high turnover, or can you -- do you
          8    know what that would be referring to?
          9              MR. STREETER:  I can guess, and if that's
         10    acceptable, I'll do that.  We have over the past year had a
         11    what I'd consider to be a high turnover at the director
         12    level and at the top leadership level in the organization. 
         13    And it's just not one or two, but we've had -- for a variety
         14    of reasons people have had in some cases four or five bosses
         15    in a year.  I believe that is stabilized now and has been
         16    for, well, the last change we've had in that area was about
         17    a month ago when one of our directors was -- resigned and we
         18    replaced him.
         19              I can tell you, though, that I believe that right
         20    now that we have a very, very competent leadership group
         21    within nuclear oversight, and I believe that that turnover
         22    has stabilized.
         23              MR. KENYON:  If I could just add to that, I don't
         24    think the turnover rate has been excessive, but I do think
         25    that in general the turnover has been as part of our process
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          1    to strengthen the organization.  We have a much stronger
          2    organization today than we did two years ago, and part of
          3    that has been based on some people leaving and some others
          4    coming.
          5              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  If I may --
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
          7              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Make a comment.  When I met
          8    with your Nuclear Oversight Group about a month ago I
          9    noticed that a few of them were obviously not happy with
         10    certain things, and the bottom line was that they didn't
         11    think that, you know, they really pay attention to some of
         12    the things, and I waited today to tell you that.
         13              I didn't find that disturbing.  I found that if I
         14    could stay and actually be frustrated I will be an asset to
         15    the organization, and in relation to the turnover, I hope
         16    that that turnover has nothing to do that some of them are
         17    outright ornery in about their, you know, statements.
         18              MR. MORRIS:  We see that as a healthy environment,
         19    and when you hear oversight and you hear the reports that
         20    we're telling you about the station, we are never going to
         21    have a 100-percent happy working environment.  No one does. 
         22    But people are free to speak their piece, and they're
         23    willing to speak their piece, and those are the signals that
         24    we're looking for, and we've done what we can, and always
         25    will do what we can, to listen and respond to those
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          1    concerns.  So we see that as a potential plus to the overall
          2    health of an organization.
          3              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Okay.  Thank you.
          4              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  I have a question.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
          6              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  This experience of your
          7    Nuclear Oversight Group, is it going to transfer to -- I
          8    understand you to say it's going to transfer into the
          9    operating Millstone.  If that should occur, is it more
         10    likely to start eroding or go over to Unit 2?
         11              MR. STREETER:  Clearly our priority is attention
         12    to the safe restart return to service of Unit 3.  That is --
         13    the staff knows that and so the resources -- if there's
         14    competition for resources, that's where the resources will
         15    be applied.  We have our -- are implementing a plan now to
         16    where we are -- we have assured that we've got the necessary
         17    support for Unit 3 for this 24-hour coverage and support
         18    while then dedicating other resources to the recovery
         19    efforts for Unit 2.
         20              We're sensitive to that, and I can assure you that
         21    the priorities are to get Unit 3 safe first and then the
         22    recovery of Unit 2.  And we have no problem at this point
         23    that I see as having sufficient resources to accomplish both
         24    in a quality fashion.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But once Unit 3 is restarted,
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          1    you have sufficient resources and capabilities to continue
          2    the nuclear oversight of an operating Unit 3 as you focus on
          3    Unit 2.  I think that's what she's trying to get to.
          4              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  That's my question.
          5              MR. STREETER:  Absolutely.  And I can tell you
          6    that if it comes to the point in time there's any question
          7    in my mind that I don't have adequate resources, I will get
          8    them, because the management commitment is there.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Great.
         10              MR. MORRIS:  Yes, ma'am.
         11              MR. STREETER:  Any other questions?
         12              I'd like to continue talking about the
         13    transformation of nuclear oversight and tell you that in the
         14    past nuclear oversight function is what some of us know as
         15    silo effect, even within the nuclear oversight organization,
         16    where auditors would do their audits, surveillors would do
         17    their surveillances, and inspectors would do their
         18    inspections, and people that did other functions would
         19    produce their reports, and there wasn't a great deal of what
         20    I'm calling integration.
         21              To build upon each other's experiences and to use
         22    the resources we've got to focus on the most important
         23    activities and to complement each other's efforts.  We make
         24    great inroads in that area.  The nuclear oversight restart
         25    verification plan is one example where we're pulling all of
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          1    our resources and focusing on that effort.  But there's been
          2    numerous other things where we have integrated our efforts. 
          3    We've got a ways to go.  We're continuing to improve in that
          4    area.
          5              Parallel to that is that a lot of times what we
          6    know as quality assurance organizations have a tendency to
          7    be an ivory tower, so to speak, and not being close to the
          8    action and doing what they think is right and doing what the
          9    programs and the tech specs may require but I have an audit,
         10    I have to do this, and being locked up in complete
         11    compliance that we lose sight of what I call the pulse of
         12    the project, and accomplishing the compliance orientation,
         13    but focus a resource to the important things that are
         14    necessary to support the safe operation of the plant.
         15              We have gone just a long ways in that regard, but
         16    again I'll tell you, we're getting better as we go and we'll
         17    get further.  But we are doing more what we call
         18    performance-based approaches in our activities, and we're
         19    getting better as time goes along.  We have improved the
         20    timeliness of our products through -- we have improved the
         21    scope of our activities.  Now we've instituted a program
         22    when we do an audit we invite the line organizations to say
         23    hey, what do you think that would be items that you think
         24    are critical that need to be covered?  And by using that
         25    information, then coming up with a more effective and
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          1    valuable product.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Give me an example of what you
          3    would call a performance-based assessment.
          4              MR. STREETER:  When -- well, I guess it would
          5    be -- let me contrast it with an audit.  That's the easiest,
          6    clearest way to do it.  An audit typically is to go out and
          7    you look at most of the time documentation, evidences of
          8    things that have transpired.  They're generally things that
          9    have already happened and you're checking the adequacy of
         10    it.  That's not always the case, but generally that's true.
         11              Performance-based activities are most of the time
         12    incorporated into special review teams, and I think the
         13    surveillance activity would most closely illustrate that. 
         14    Whereas were audits have to be because of requirements have
         15    to be very, very -- have to meet administrative requirements
         16    about the entrance interview --
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  The checklist.
         18              MR. STREETER:  All of those important
         19    administrative requirements, the surveillances aren't
         20    constrained with that level of detail.  So they're freer to
         21    respond to emerging issues where they would go out and they
         22    actually look at activities when they are occurring.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Actually I was just asking you
         24    for an example.
         25              MR. STREETER:  Well, I'm sorry.  The example would
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          1    be the 24-hour coverage that we presently have in place by
          2    the Nuclear Oversight Organization whether in the control
          3    room, they're witnessing the communication and the
          4    responsiveness of the operators talking to the management
          5    oversight individuals to determine if they understand their
          6    role, their contribution, being in the field with the plant
          7    equipment operators to get a feel for the plant and their
          8    knowledge and their activities.  So that's real-time
          9    watching activities are going on.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         11              Now we have over the last 16 months -- the next
         12    slide a little straight -- and I don't want to make a lot
         13    of -- a big point about the quantity of these observations. 
         14    Actually, I couldn't contrast this to what you would
         15    normally find at any other plant, only to illustrate to you
         16    that we do a variety of activities and we have a wealth of
         17    opportunities to derive some knowledge to assess
         18    performance, and that is what this is intended to be -- the
         19    QC inspections, the automated work orders, our review
         20    process, and it just goes down through the independent
         21    review team reports, so it is just the variety of activities
         22    that I would like to illustrate from that.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you track or keep --
         24    maintain awareness in any way of things, say, in three
         25    areas -- line identified issues and problems, issues and
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          1    problems identified by Oversight that were not identified by
          2    the line, and self-revealing problems?
          3              Do you track those at all?
          4              MR. BROTHERS:  Yes, we do.  I'll answer for that. 
          5    We have a performance indicator that describes exactly
          6    that -- line-identified, self-identification ratio, internal
          7    oversight, external oversight, and event -- and that is a
          8    weekly indicator.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good.
         10              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  How is your QA organization
         11    integrated into this?
         12              MR. STREETER:  How is it integrated --
         13              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Or where is it located with
         14    respect to Nuclear Oversight?
         15              MR. STREETER:  A quality assurance organization
         16    normally -- I'll talk about what a normal plant will at
         17    least have and then we'll go from there.
         18              A quality assurance organization always has an
         19    audit function.  Most quality assurance organizations that I
         20    know of today have also a surveillance function, so you have
         21    got audits and surveillance activities.
         22              Most quality assurance organizations that I am
         23    familiar with also has a QC inspection function, which is a
         24    quality assurance function but not always.  In some, in many
         25    plants it's not in the quality assurance organization, so
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          1    what people would normally call as quality assurance are
          2    embodied in those three normal organizations -- the audits,
          3    the surveillances, and the QC inspection.
          4              In our organization the surveillances and the QC
          5    inspection are the responsibility of our Performance
          6    Evaluation Group.  The audits are performed under our Audits
          7    and Evaluation Group.
          8              In addition to that, our Oversight function
          9    presently has responsibility for the Nuclear Safety
         10    Engineering Group, which is this ISEG function.  It also
         11    includes some human factor reviews and some operating
         12    experience reviews.
         13              In addition to that, we have the independent
         14    review team, and notably I'll say it also has a temporary
         15    organization of extremely well-qualified people doing,
         16    overviewing our 5054(f) efforts or our efforts to restore
         17    and assure our -- restore our design basis and licensing
         18    basis requirements, so that is the temporary organization
         19    that as we restore that, those folks will move out.
         20              Now because they are extremely well-qualified
         21    folks, and us not wanting to lose that information, we have
         22    already instituted a practice to where we are rotating those
         23    individuals who are permanent staff now to let this
         24    experience, so to speak, rub off on them before they leave
         25    the site.
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          1              MR. KENYON:  I think the simple answer is they are
          2    all part of Oversight.
          3              [Laughter.]
          4              MR. STREETER:  Is that all I had to say?
          5              MR. KENYON:  That's all.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  That's all you need to say.
          7              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  They are all integrated under
          8    Oversight?
          9              MR. STREETER:  Yes.
         10              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Thank you.
         11              MR. STREETER:  That was easy enough.
         12              I want to turn now to -- we were talking about
         13    restoring this capability and what we have done with it.
         14              We have, and these are just some examples of some
         15    things where we have put to use, this capability, and
         16    contributed to the recovery efforts in a positive way.
         17              The next-to-the-last bullet, I won't say anything
         18    about that because we have talked about that right upfront
         19    with Commissioner McGaffigan, I think.
         20              The other efforts on the independent corrective
         21    action verification program readiness, we were instrumental
         22    in looking at the site's readiness for that and because of
         23    our views on this and discussing it with the line, we came
         24    to an agreement that we weren't ready initially for the
         25    inspection and delayed that.
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          1              The operator training audit in the summer of last
          2    year, our input was instrumental in the stand-down that
          3    occurred and equally all of those other activities had
          4    significant input from us that contributed to improved
          5    performance.
          6              MR. BOWLING:  Chairman Jackson, if I could --
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
          8              MR. BOWLING:  -- add one comment on the 40-500
          9    readiness.
         10              Based on Oversight's performance-based
         11    assessments, in this case it was a couple of the major
         12    maintenance activities -- there was major work on emergency
         13    diesel generator, for example -- where they provided
         14    performance-based review from the start of that job all
         15    through the job, every aspect of the job, based on that and
         16    some of the procedure adherence and other program issues
         17    that came out of that, a decision to defer or delay the
         18    40-500 inspection by almost a month -- that is one example
         19    of how we use performance.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         21              MR. STREETER:  Regarding problems being identified
         22    to the Millstone Nuclear Organization, that was one of the
         23    success criteria we had for the Oversight function. 
         24    Oversight in this context means management as well as
         25    Nuclear Oversight.
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          1              The point that I want to make here, in addition to
          2    the point that Marty had previously made, was the
          3    distinction or the difference here between those that are
          4    identified by Nuclear Oversight and those that are
          5    identified by the line.
          6              We don't have a specific acceptance criteria what
          7    that percentage should be, but I would be alarmed if it got
          8    too large and I would be alarmed if it got too small, so the
          9    way it is looking now, my judgment is it is probably about
         10    where I would expect to see it.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Are there benchmarks you can
         12    use?
         13              MR. STREETER:  There may be, Chairman.  I do not
         14    have that information.  That is a good point.
         15              MR. BOWLING:  The goal that we are using on a
         16    weekly basis is less than 10 percent of items are identified
         17    by something other than --
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  -- the line.
         19              MR. BOWLING:  -- the line, so the goal is actually
         20    10 percent.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay, thank you.
         22              MR. BOWLING:  Another success criteria is what we
         23    would call Nuclear Oversight or the oversight function as
         24    embraced by management.
         25              It is clear now through everything that I see at
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          1    the site that management is a proponent.  Put another way,
          2    they have embraced the oversight function.  It goes beyond
          3    just accepting it as it was in the past, saying we'll make
          4    sure you accept it and understand that it is important, but
          5    it goes into them now receiving the input and understanding
          6    that oversight has a function and it's like we talked about
          7    before on the Mode 2 list that we were talking about, where
          8    I think it was Mike or Marty, someone said where is it from
          9    oversight.
         10              We're going through the Mode 4 effort.  We had to
         11    work off items through the Mode 4 list.  That was so
         12    effective that the line was now seeking that input to help
         13    us prepare for Mode 2.
         14              They are going as far as soliciting our advice and
         15    requesting special reviews and there are a lot of notable
         16    examples in that.
         17              Most recently there was in the Engineering
         18    organization an instance where we had reached a point
         19    looking at the safety-conscious work environment in that
         20    organization, we made the decision that we could relax our
         21    effort in that area.  The Design Engineering Director said I
         22    would appreciate it if you didn't, because I have had some
         23    difficulties there in the past.  This is helping me, this
         24    input -- please continue -- which we are doing.
         25              We have had numerous occasions on management -- a
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          1    reflection of their support of the organization to where
          2    they have taken the time through various avenues to express
          3    appreciation and recognition to the whole site of the
          4    contribution of Oversight, and that is important for the
          5    site to understand that.
          6              We have been integrated as an equal and integral
          7    partner in the site activities with not losing our
          8    independence or objectivity and we have been empowered, as I
          9    had mentioned before, to raise the standards in our
         10    operations.
         11              Through our Nuclear Oversight restart readiness
         12    assessments, we developed a plan that covered multiple areas
         13    including all of the key areas that were in our briefing
         14    book.  We have added to those other areas that we thought
         15    were important.  For those we developed critical attributes
         16    from a variety of sources -- INPO, NRC documents, our own
         17    standards to judge the performance.
         18              From that we developed the mechanisms to assess
         19    and to score those attributes on a biweekly basis, give a
         20    report to line management which they identified areas
         21    needing improvement, and that is going on on an ongoing
         22    basis.
         23              Now the results of that are reflected and how we
         24    communicate this is demonstrated on the next slide, where we
         25    then take those results and those numerical results are
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          1    converted into what we call a color.
          2              Now what we chose, as far as -- pardon me, got
          3    ahead of myself.
          4              We have used a Nuclear Oversight Verification Plan
          5    to make a number of determinations for readiness for major
          6    milestones.  We have mentioned the 40-500 corrective action
          7    inspection, the success criteria and 15 of the 16 have been
          8    reaffirmed using this NORVP.  The exception is one that has
          9    been discussed in detail before, the work planning and
         10    management, and the Mode 4 readiness and the OSTI readiness
         11    have both -- were affirmed using this process.
         12              The latest results of this effort are reflected on
         13    this chart.  Now one thing that I want to make very clear is
         14    that on here you will seen greens and here you will see
         15    yellows.  Those are the numerical scores from our readiness
         16    plan.
         17              We chose 70 as the threshold for calling something
         18    what we call "satisfactory."  That does not mean once we get
         19    at the 70 we view that as acceptable, because again we have
         20    higher standards that we are pressing toward.
         21              Of those areas -- so within the green we have
         22    areas yet for improvement and in the yellow areas are those
         23    where the numerical grade is below 70.  That does not mean
         24    those areas are not ready for restart.  It just means that
         25    we have farther -- more progress to go to get to the higher
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          1    standards that we are talking about.
          2              From those the important thing is we extract from
          3    those area those items that we believe are essential for
          4    being prepared to go to Mode 2.  Those are converted, just
          5    as in Mode 4, into a Mode 2 readiness checklist, which we
          6    work through those efforts to bring the issues involved
          7    before we go to the next step.
          8              It is a "living list" -- that doesn't mean the
          9    list is stagnant.  It will change as we identify issues, as
         10    time goes by.
         11              MR. STREETER:  We are committed to sustaining
         12    performance.  As a matter of fact, the success criteria that
         13    we have now, we are committed to improving upon those. 
         14    We're going to do that by continuing the process that we
         15    have in place now of line rotation to build the experience
         16    into the -- keep the experience in the organization;
         17    continue to do self-assessments to monitor performance, and
         18    continue to use external assessment sources such as the
         19    Joint Utility Management Organization.
         20              So what I would like to say is, in sum, is that
         21    success criteria have been met and the problems are being
         22    identified by line organization.  Management does embrace
         23    oversight assessment functions.  The Nuclear Safety Advisory
         24    Board has confirmed the adequacy.  We have demonstrated our
         25    value and it's clear that we've got more work to do to get
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          1    the elite level of performance that we're striving for, and
          2    we'll get there.
          3              MR. KENYON:  Very quickly, in closing, we've
          4    talked about leadership as being an important factor in the
          5    recovery of Millstone.  I believe leadership is in place
          6    with high standards and strong values for sustained
          7    performance.
          8              We have talked about the 16 key site issues. 
          9    Fifteen of 16 are closed and the other will close shortly. 
         10    So we believe those in place for Unit 3.
         11              We have talked extensively and very appropriately
         12    about the importance of checks and balances, and that ranges
         13    from self-assessment by the line organization through
         14    oversight through the NASB, through the Nuclear Committee,
         15    the Board, with its NCAT, a very important aspect of how we
         16    do business going forward.
         17              We have talked about the backlog, the fact that
         18    we've set a very low threshold for items being identified
         19    into the backlog, but a very thorough process as to what's
         20    deferrable and what's not; and even for what's deferrable,
         21    we've worked off over 60 percent of what's there.  And we've
         22    talked considerably about I think one of our fundamental
         23    challenges, which is to reestablish a safety conscious work
         24    environment.  We believe we have done that.
         25              So on the issues we've discussed today, we believe
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          1    we're ready for restart.  We look forward to our next
          2    meeting.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
          4              Mr. Morris, do you have any --
          5              MR. MORRIS:  Thank you for your time, your
          6    attention and your help.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.  Thank you very
          8    much.  We will excuse you.  Thank you.  And now we would
          9    like to hear from Little Harbor Consultants, who will give
         10    us their status update on the employee safety concerns
         11    program.
         12              Commissioner McGaffigan noted that we're an hour
         13    behind schedule, so that means you have a minute to give
         14    your --
         15              [Laughter.]
         16              MR. AMERINE:  Are there any questions?
         17              [Laughter.]
         18              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Is that a part of our aging
         19    program?
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Yes.  Yes.  It's aging
         21    management.
         22              Please, Mr. Beck.
         23              MR. BECK:  Good morning, Chairman Jackson,
         24    Commissioners Diaz, Dicus and McGaffigan.
         25              I'm John Beck, president of Little Harbor
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          1    Consultants, and with me this morning is John Griffin, our
          2    deputy team leader at Millstone, and Ms. Billie Garde, a
          3    member of the team.
          4              This morning, John will discuss the results of the
          5    structured interviews we completed in February, and
          6    following the structured interview results, he'll cover our
          7    evaluation of two of the four NU success criteria: 
          8    willingness to raise concerns and the corrective action
          9    program.  Ms. Garde will then present our evaluation of the
         10    other two success criteria:  the employee concerns program
         11    and the HIRD area.
         12              Following Ms. Garde, I have some comments on why
         13    we believe the Millstone site has reached a sufficient state
         14    of readiness to warrant your consideration of their request
         15    to restart Unit 3.
         16              As always, we welcome your questions at any time
         17    during the presentation.
         18              John.
         19              MR. GRIFFIN:  Good morning.
         20              As John indicated, I'll present the results of
         21    Little Harbor's second set of structured interviews and I'll
         22    try to move through these slides quickly in the interest of
         23    time.  A number of the results you've already heard
         24    presented by Northeast this morning.
         25              Our first set of interviews were conducted in June
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          1    and July of 1997, and the results were presented to this
          2    Commission in August of last year.  The interviews we
          3    discussed today were conducted during the month of February
          4    1998.
          5              This slide presents the basic framework of our
          6    interviews.  We used essentially the same questions this
          7    time as last summer.  Some questions were slightly reworded
          8    for clarification based on experience gained with the first
          9    set of interviews.
         10              To answer the Chairman's earlier question, it's
         11    the size -- we interviewed 298 workers at Millstone selected
         12    to represent all site work groups.
         13              Of the 298, 24 were volunteers and 18 were
         14    contractors.  The information we present this morning will
         15    include all 298 interviews.  We did perform an independent
         16    assessment or evaluation of the results of the voluntary
         17    responses and determined that the responses were essentially
         18    the same whether or not they were included.
         19              We selected those to be interviewed to include
         20    representation from all work groups, and we selected
         21    different people than those that were interviewed last
         22    summer.  Some of the volunteers were people who had been
         23    interviewed before.
         24              As I said, Little Harbor selected the individuals
         25    to be interviewed, we made the contacts, and we scheduled
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          1    all the interviews.  The interviews were voluntary and we
          2    have taken every precaution to ensure that there is no
          3    attribution to comments made during the interviews.
          4              We asked those interviewed to answer a number of
          5    yes-no questions as well as questions requiring them to
          6    respond using a scale of 1 to 5, again the same scale that
          7    we used last summer.  We also asked questions that elicited
          8    textual responses.
          9              We scheduled these interviews as late as possible
         10    in order to provide the Commission with information that
         11    reflects the current feelings of the Millstone workforce. 
         12    It's important to remember that what we're about to present
         13    is what members of the workforce told us.  The results are
         14    what they are and are a snapshot of how 298 employees felt
         15    at the time of their interview.
         16              On the first slide, in response to the question,
         17    "If you became aware of a problem that could affect the safe
         18    operation of the plant, would you raise that concern?"  100
         19    percent answered that they would raise that concern.  The
         20    overwhelming majority also indicated that they would raise
         21    that concern to their line management.  There were two or
         22    three individuals who indicated they would use an
         23    alternative route, such as the employee concerns program,
         24    the NRC or even the media.
         25              One-hundred percent also indicated that they were
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          1    not aware of any safety concern that had not previously been
          2    raised.  These were the same results that we saw last
          3    summer.
          4              We next probed to see if restart pressure was in
          5    any way impacting the willingness of workers to raise safety
          6    issues.  The increase in the number of people that responded
          7    yes to this question initially was a concern to us.  We did
          8    a detailed analysis, including re-contacting some of those
          9    interviews to better understand their comments.  In no case
         10    did we find that a person in a management position had told
         11    anyone that raising a concern would delay restart.  The yes
         12    responses were a reflection of water cooler discussions or
         13    discussions between peers.  And no one indicated that this
         14    would prevent them from going to the NRC with a concern if
         15    necessary.
         16              Ninety-eight percent of those interviewed
         17    indicated a willingness to take the concern to the NRC.  The
         18    primary reason for not going to the NRC was a belief that
         19    the concern would be addressed before it became necessary to
         20    do so.  But there were a few who indicated a lack of
         21    confidence in the Commission.
         22              This slide reflects an increased confidence in
         23    getting nuclear safety concerns addressed and resolved.  We
         24    included three datapoints gathered during our interviews. 
         25    Last summer, for several of the questions, we asked those
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          1    interviewed to tell us how they felt currently as well as
          2    how they had felt the year earlier.  These year-earlier
          3    results appear as mid-'96 on the graphs.  As you can see,
          4    the average response has increased from 3.3 in mid-'96 to
          5    4.3 last summer and then finally to 4.5 in February.
          6              More specifically, we asked about worker level of
          7    confidence in the three primary paths to resolve concerns: 
          8    Line management, the employee concerns program, and the NRC. 
          9    Again, as you can see, all three have increased from last
         10    summer results.
         11              We asked those interviewed if there was any reason
         12    they would not use the employee concerns program. 
         13    Ninety-three responded that if necessary, they would use the
         14    ECP.  Some of the no responses were for the reasons
         15    indicated.  As Ms. Garde will discuss later, our surveys of
         16    those who actually used the employee concerns program
         17    confirmed this high level of confidence.
         18              Questioning attitude is a critical attribute of a
         19    safety conscious work environment, and when asked to rate
         20    their own level of questioning attitude and those of their
         21    work group and the site, the results were improved, with the
         22    site numbers being essentially the same.
         23              The understanding and awareness of the Millstone
         24    self-assessment program showed a marked improvement during
         25    these interviews.  As you can see, responses to each of the
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          1    three questions showed significant improvement.
          2              In response to the last question, interviewees
          3    provided numerous specific examples of improvements they
          4    have seen that resulted directly from self-assessments.
          5              We also asked about the corrective action program,
          6    and again, we saw a marked improvement in the confidence in
          7    the CR process as reflected on this slide.
          8              We asked questions designed to probe the level of
          9    trust and confidence between workers and their supervisors. 
         10    This confidence and trust between workers and supervisors
         11    has improved from the last round of interviews.
         12              This slide shows improvement in response to both
         13    questions.  The workers we interviewed felt good about their
         14    contribution that they were making to Millstone, and their
         15    awareness of positive recognition being given to individuals
         16    who raised concerns is especially positive.
         17              These questions probed how those interviewed
         18    perceived the attitudes of workers, supervisors, and
         19    management toward people who raise concerns.  Again, steady
         20    improvement is shown in each area.
         21              When asked to rate the presence of a chilling
         22    effect, the response was also improved.  And it's important
         23    to remember here that the lowest possible number is 1.
         24              Steady improvement was also seen in the area of
         25    teamwork and cooperation within the individual's own work
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          1    group, within their unit or staff organization, and across
          2    the entire Millstone site.
          3              In regard to communications from management, again
          4    there is steady improvement in all areas.  The largest
          5    improvement is the attitude of employees towards middle
          6    management and their supervisors, as shown on the bottom two
          7    graphs.  We believe this is due at least in part to the
          8    training that has recently been conducted for all managers
          9    and supervisors.
         10              In summary, the interview results reflect
         11    across-the-board improvements.  The largest improvements
         12    were seen in awareness of management expectation, confidence
         13    in the corrective-action program, and the utilization of
         14    self-assessment processes.
         15              The results of our interviews confirm the
         16    observations by Little Harbor in regard to the willingness
         17    of this work force to raise concerns.  In fact, we believe
         18    that at least in regards to raising concerns, this is
         19    currently a very empowered work force.  As a result of these
         20    interviews, we find that the work environment at Millstone
         21    has continued to improve since last summer.  These results
         22    were utilized by Little Harbor in our evaluation of the
         23    safety-conscious work environment attributes at Millstone.
         24              If you have no further questions on the results
         25    themselves, I would like to shift the presentation to our
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          1    Evaluation of the Four Success Criteria.
          2              As I just stated, the results of our structured
          3    interviews provided data that Little Harbor used in
          4    evaluating the 12 attributes of a safety-conscious work
          5    environment and the four success criteria established by
          6    Northeast.  I will present the results of our most recent
          7    evaluation of the first two of the criteria, and Ms. Garde
          8    will discuss the final two.
          9              The results that we will discuss this morning were
         10    presented to your staff and to Northeast at a public meeting
         11    held on April 7, 1998.  We revisited these results earlier
         12    this week and have determined that there has been no change
         13    since that last evaluation.  And as we have stated before,
         14    these ratings were arrived at after lengthy discussion among
         15    members of the team and represent a consensus opinion of the
         16    entire team.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And what do you use in arriving
         18    at your consensus opinion about these attributes?
         19              MR. GRIFFIN:  We sit down in a group meeting and
         20    we put everything that has happened in the preceding period. 
         21    We categorize the issues that have developed.  We use the
         22    company's key performance indicators.  We use in this case
         23    the results of our structured interviews.  Any observations
         24    that we have seen we discuss, we debate back and forth among
         25    the team members and slowly narrow in on a final
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          1    determination.
          2              The first success criterion is a demonstration
          3    that the work force is willing to raise concerns.  This
          4    slide and subsequent slides of the success criteria provide
          5    a historical perspective of Little Harbor evaluations
          6    conducted to date.  As you can see from this slide, we have
          7    seen a steady improvement in this success criterion.
          8              During our first set of structured interviews last
          9    summer and in our many interactions with the Millstone work
         10    force in that time period, we found a work force that would
         11    raise safety concerns but was generally worried about the
         12    consequences of doing so.  Over the last eight to nine
         13    months we have seen these worries diminish as the Northeast
         14    initiatives began to take hold.  Today we find a work force
         15    that is very empowered when it comes to expressing concerns.
         16              In addition to the results of our structured
         17    interviews we have seen example after example where issues
         18    have been raised and where decisions by management have been
         19    challenged by workers.  Our current evaluation of this
         20    success criteria is yellow plus, with an improving trend. 
         21    And we find this criterion to be acceptable for restart.
         22              The next success criterion is a demonstration of
         23    line management's ability to resolve effectively the issues
         24    raised by the work force at Millstone.  This is the
         25    Millstone Corrective Action Program.
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          1              As you can see from the slide, this criterion has
          2    stayed constant throughout our evaluation period, and we
          3    find this criterion to also be acceptable to support the
          4    restart of the Millstone unit.
          5              In arriving at this conclusion, Little Harbor
          6    conducted two assessments of the Corrective Action Program,
          7    one last fall that focused on program and procedures, and a
          8    more recent assessment that looked at implementation.  We
          9    found the Correction Action Program and its implementing
         10    procedures to be complete and comprehensive.  We also found
         11    that the Corrective Action Program has been implemented
         12    aggressively and that NU has dedicated significant resources
         13    to this implementation.
         14              In addition, we reviewed the self-assessments
         15    performed by Northeast as well as the recent inspection
         16    conducted by the Commission, both of which found the
         17    Corrective Action Program to be effective.
         18              As I covered earlier in discussing the results of
         19    our structured interviews, the work force as represented by
         20    those that we interviewed expressed an understanding of and
         21    an increased confidence in the fidelity of this program to
         22    resolve their concerns.  While we find the Corrective Action
         23    Program acceptable to support restart, it is also necessary
         24    for NU to continue the efforts to improve this program and
         25    to constantly improve the standards that they are measuring
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          1    themselves to.
          2              Ms. Garde and I will discuss the remaining two
          3    success criteria.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you a question.  An
          5    up arrow means an improving trend?
          6              MR. GRIFFIN:  That's correct.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And so the fact if it remains
          8    an up arrow and the category doesn't change, it just means
          9    the slope was not --
         10              MR. GRIFFIN:  It's slow improvement.  That's
         11    correct.  Or we have not seen enough positive -- it could
         12    also mean that we just have not seen enough positive
         13    measurable factors to allow us to take it to the next step.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But folding in all of these
         15    various considerations you said it still means that it's on
         16    an improving trend.
         17              MR. GRIFFIN:  That's correct.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         19              MS. GARDE:  That same comment would apply to the
         20    Employee Concern Program.  The Millstone Employee Concern
         21    Program is currently rated yellow with an improving trend by
         22    Little Harbor.  This program has steadily advanced since
         23    December of 1996.  The ECP program has been determined by
         24    Little Harbor to be acceptable for restart.
         25              Little Harbor reached this conclusion on the basis
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          1    of a detailed examination of the ECP program manual and
          2    procedures, observations of the implementation of the
          3    program at every phase, a review of the case investigative
          4    files, debriefing of a selected number of workers who have
          5    used the ECP program to pursue concerns, the qualifications,
          6    commitment, and morale of the ECP staff, and the useful
          7    integration of findings, lessons learned, focused areas, and
          8    other information that provides important insight into the
          9    Millstone work environment.
         10              The ECP program and procedures are comprehensive
         11    and provide a foundation for reliable and effective
         12    alternative method for employees to raise concerns and
         13    receive a timely, credible, and competent answer.  While
         14    Little Harbor has continued to note occasional weaknesses in
         15    investigative files, the work done by the ECP continues to
         16    improve.
         17              Little Harbor has observed all phases of ECP
         18    activities throughout the past year.  Detailed descriptions
         19    of our findings are contained in the quarterly reports and
         20    have been the subject of public meetings.  Throughout these
         21    observations, Little Harbor has noted that the ECP continues
         22    to become more people rather than technical issue oriented.
         23              The Employee Concern Program has developed and
         24    successfully utilizes an excellent working relationship
         25    between executive management, line management, other support
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          1    organizations, and the concerned employees.  The ECP
          2    investigative case files have been comprehensively audited
          3    at various stages throughout our oversight activities.
          4              In July 1997 Little Harbor completed a review of
          5    100 percent of all files closed out between December '96 and
          6    June of '97.  The Little Harbor findings released in late
          7    July 1997 were quite critical.  Thereafter the program
          8    undertook major program changes, and a comprehensive review
          9    completed last month which included 100-percent review of
         10    all files involving allegations of retaliation and a
         11    significant proportion of other files indicated substantial
         12    improvement in casework and file documentation.
         13              The confidence of the work force in the ECP also
         14    continues to improve.  Last summer only 50 percent of those
         15    who had used the ECP indicated they would use it again in
         16    the future.  Currently we find this number to have grown to
         17    88 percent.
         18              Northeast Utilities recognizes that it must
         19    continue to earn the confidence of employees in the
         20    program's independence and credibility.  Strong leadership
         21    and confidence in the program has come from the ECP director
         22    and his staff, including competent contract investigators.
         23              Little Harbor has been particularly impressed with
         24    the actions and guidance that Mr. Ed Morgan has brought to
         25    this program.  His willingness to be an independent advocate
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          1    for the facts gathered by the ECP investigators and his
          2    contributions to the work environment are notable.
          3              In addition, Northeast Utilities has demonstrated
          4    a commitment to providing the resources necessary to
          5    accomplish the task.  In December 1996 this Employee Concern
          6    Program faced a difficult task of rebuilding trust and
          7    confidence of employees while rebuilding itself.  It has
          8    done so.  Little Harbor believes that the Commission can
          9    rely on the Millstone Employee Concern Program to provide an
         10    effective and competent alternative to employees who for
         11    whatever reason are unable or unwilling to pursue concerns
         12    through line management.
         13              The final success criterion is management's
         14    ability to recognize, mitigate, and deal with issues
         15    involving harassment, intimidation, retaliation, and
         16    discrimination.  The progress of that area is on the slide.
         17              In 1996 the Millstone work environment was
         18    characterized by fear, distrust, lack of confidence in
         19    management, and feelings of helplessness and hopelessness in
         20    the work force.  The reasons that the environment
         21    deteriorated to the point that the Commission intervened are
         22    complicated.
         23              Three studies in 1996 identified a series of root
         24    causes that included among others a lack of accountability
         25    and a lack of leadership by corporate and site management. 
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          1    As required by the NRC's October order, these weaknesses
          2    were to be addressed by the development of a comprehensive
          3    plan designed to create a safety-conscious work environment.
          4              This has been the most difficult hurdle for
          5    Millstone to clear, as evidenced by the windows on this
          6    slide.  As late as February of this year, Little Harbor
          7    still rated this attribute red, the lowest possible
          8    evaluation under our rating system.  It was not until our
          9    evaluation presented on April 7 that we found this attribute
         10    to be acceptable for restart.  Our decision was heavily
         11    influenced by the checks and balances that have been put
         12    into place to identify, anticipate, and prevent incidents of
         13    harassment, intimidation, retaliation, and discrimination.
         14              By the presence of a strong employee concerns
         15    program by the confidence expressed by the work force, via
         16    the structured interviews, and by an extraordinary level of
         17    senior executive commitment to work environment issues.
         18              Nonetheless, as Little Harbor has cautioned
         19    Northeast Utilities, in order for Millstone to establish a
         20    truly self-sustaining safety-conscious work environment, it
         21    must eventually replace the extraordinary efforts it is
         22    currently employing with sustained good judgment of line
         23    management in addressing employee questions and issues.
         24              The Millstone work force no longer feels helpless
         25    or hopeless.  The employees, from operators to maintenance
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          1    technicians to senior executives, understand what is
          2    expected of them in their dealings with others, and
          3    understand their responsibility to raise safety concerns. 
          4    This is a very empowered work force.  They understand their
          5    legal rights, and the legal limitations imposed on their
          6    employer that prevent and prohibit retaliation.
          7              Even with all of these improvements and advances,
          8    mistakes will happen.  Little Harbor believes that the
          9    tools, the training and the commitment is in place to
         10    prevent those mistakes from reversing progress.
         11              However, as we have cautioned, progress on this
         12    issue can be very tenuous.  Some of the work force still
         13    have a lingering concern that things could go back to the
         14    old way of doing business after restart.  Now is not the
         15    time to relax.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         17              Let me ask you two quick questions.  I mean if I
         18    took what you said relative to this last attribute, where
         19    you particularly talked about the checks and balances and
         20    the strong employee concerns program, et cetera, et cetera,
         21    but what is needed in the long term is sustained good
         22    judgment on the part of line management in dealing with
         23    these sorts of issues, is there an implication in what
         24    you're saying that there are these supernumerary things that
         25    have been put into place and that you don't have confidence
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          1    that there is sustained good judgment on the part of line
          2    management?
          3              MS. GARDE:  Well, sustained good judgment on the
          4    part of line management --
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I mean are these covering for
          6    that or do you have evidence that line management's judgment
          7    in these areas in fact has improved in a measurable way?
          8              MS. GARDE:  It has improved in a measurable way,
          9    but use of the checks and balances, as well as the
         10    intervention that we referred to as the extraordinary extra
         11    commitment continues to provide guidance, training,
         12    learning, so that making decisions at the line management
         13    level with confidence is something that will happen easier,
         14    more frequently, and without the needed intervention.
         15              Frequently what we have seen with line managements
         16    exercising their judgment is that their instincts are right,
         17    but because they didn't grow up in a culture that reinforced
         18    following their instincts, they are hesitant to do that
         19    thing.  And as they see the support that comes through these
         20    checks and balances, they are learning, the managers are
         21    learning, and because of that, it's certainly not time to
         22    take away those checks and balances, but eight months from
         23    now, six to eight months from now, a year from now,
         24    hopefully those checks and balance systems will not be
         25    required.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you Commissioner
          2    McGaffigan's question:  How long should you stay around?
          3              MR. BECK:  If I may, that's something that's been
          4    on our mind since the very beginning, how do you close what
          5    I think everyone considers to be a very extraordinary
          6    requirement that's been placed on the Millstone site.
          7              Our view, very simply, has been in this quite
          8    subjective area of involvement, when we no longer make a
          9    difference.  I think speaking directly to that, we are
         10    seeing less and less occasion for us to have to speak up and
         11    in accordance with our oversight plan make recommendations
         12    that something be done differently.
         13              So that frequency is going down as we speak on a
         14    daily basis.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So what is your exit strategy?
         16              MR. BECK:  Our exit strategy is contained -- I
         17    would describe it this way:  We still have a need, I
         18    believe, to witness how this organization performs in the
         19    operational environment rather than in the recovery
         20    environment.  It's different, it presents subtle challenges
         21    to any organization to be operating rather than in a
         22    recovery mode, and we think it's necessary, and our
         23    oversight plan calls for observations in that circumstance.
         24              We think there are some processes that they have
         25    put in place, particularly in the 50.7 area, that we have
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          1    not seen enough implementation of to be fully confident that
          2    those processes are going to be effective on a long-term
          3    basis.  So continued observation of that for a while, I
          4    believe, is imperative.
          5              Beyond that, I think it will be rather obvious
          6    when we get to the point -- and I don't mean to be trite
          7    -- but when we become essentially the Maytag repairman, that
          8    the processes and the organizational checks and balances and
          9    their effort -- and they have put in place, by the way, in
         10    their 1998-2000 performance plan, a process to evolve away
         11    from all the extraordinary measures that they have at the
         12    site today.  And as you see that beginning to take place, I
         13    think it will become very obvious that there is no longer a
         14    need for an independent oversight presence at the site.  It
         15    well might occur in six months, it may occur sooner than
         16    that.  I think we will see it very shortly.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So the two key things are
         18    observation or seeing what happens in the operational
         19    environment, and the second is seeing actually to the
         20    implementation of the 50.7 processes?
         21              MR. BECK:  That's right.
         22              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Given your comments regarding
         23    criterion number 4, which I took as something of a
         24    qualification statement with regard to your overall
         25    recommendation for restart, are there some other areas that
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          1    you might have a qualifying statement on with regard to
          2    restart?
          3              MR. BECK:  I have some comments I want to make in
          4    a general sense that may be of benefit to the Commission.
          5              As you have heard from both John and Billie, we
          6    have concluded that Northeast has established a
          7    safety-conscious work environment at Millstone that we think
          8    is acceptable to permit the restart of a Millstone unit.
          9              The four success criteria that we just reviewed
         10    all meet our acceptance criteria for restart and, in
         11    addition, the 12 underlying attributes, which were included
         12    in your briefing package, also all meet the acceptance
         13    criteria for restart.
         14              We have performed our independent oversight role
         15    in strict accordance with the oversight plan and, as you
         16    just heard from John and Billie, we are confident that that
         17    safety-conscious work environment exists and that there is
         18    reasonable assurance that progress made to date is
         19    sufficient to support resumption of reactor operation.
         20              This progress has been due, to some extent,
         21    however, to the extraordinary measures by management, and
         22    they should be continued until it is clear that the desired
         23    organizational behavior is self-sustaining.
         24              You can be sure, as are we, that these
         25    extraordinary measures have been effective, and we applaud
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          1    those successes, but the goal has to be to reach a
          2    self-sustaining basis.  The organizational and
          3    sophistication and cultural change that such measures will
          4    lead to have to be there.  This will require a continuation
          5    of and an increased emphasis on the current efforts
          6    management has underway in educating and training all the
          7    work force regarding safety-conscious work environment.  In
          8    particular, team building and accountability efforts are the
          9    two factors which are key to getting to that self-sustaining
         10    status.  And we will continue our oversight activities in
         11    accordance with the plan until the Commission instructs us
         12    to do otherwise.
         13              If there is anything else we can provide in the
         14    way of response to questions, we are happy to do so.
         15              Thank you very much for the opportunity to brief
         16    you this morning.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         18              Oh, I do have one last question.  Do you agree
         19    with the licensee's assessment that the training in this
         20    area is substantially complete?
         21              MR. BECK:  It's an ongoing training requirement. 
         22    We believe that the training is appropriate, but they have
         23    to continue it, and they have to be sure in particular that
         24    any new people entering the management or supervisory
         25    structure receive that training in a timely fashion, and you
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          1    heard them say that they are committed to do that.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
          3              MR. BECK:  Yes.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  We will take our midday recess
          5    for one hour until 1:00 o'clock.  Thank you very much.
          6              [Whereupon, at 12:05 p.m., the meeting was
          7    recessed, to reconvene at 1:00 p.m., this same day.]
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          1                  A F T E R N O O N   S E S S I O N
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          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good afternoon.  This is a
          4    continuation of the meeting we began this morning assessing
          5    the Millstone Station with respect to three issues, in
          6    particular employee concerns and safety conscious work
          7    environment, oversight, and quality assurance, and backlog
          8    management.
          9              We've heard this morning from the utility as well
         10    as from Little Harbor consultants who have been overseeing
         11    the issues related to safety-conscious work environment and
         12    employee concerns program.
         13              We are now going to hear from -- sequentially from
         14    a number of public officials, public interest groups and
         15    individuals and I'm going to call on each one in turn.  I'm
         16    going to ask each person to try to be as succinct as
         17    possible to remain within your allotted time, but we do want
         18    to hear from each person and that's how we can be fair to
         19    everyone.
         20              I'm going to begin with Mr. Thomas Sheridan, the
         21    first selectman from the town of Waterford.
         22              Good afternoon.
         23              MR. SHERIDAN:  Good afternoon.  And thank you for
         24    the opportunity to address the Commission.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Make sure you speak into the --
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          1    is it on?
          2              MR. SHERIDAN:  Yes, I think it is.  Yeah.
          3              By way of providing a little background on myself,
          4    it will help me, and you folks who don't know me, understand
          5    where I'm coming from.
          6              I have a license that I've kept renewed over the
          7    years in plumbing and pipefitting and that helps me
          8    understand the complexity of a plant such as Millstone.  I
          9    also have an advanced degree in organizational psychology
         10    which also helps me understand the complexities of changing
         11    the work environment and the work culture out there.  So,
         12    with that little bit of background and, of course, I'm first
         13    selectman.  For those of you who are not familiar with such
         14    a title, it's mayor.  I'm serving my fourth term, recently
         15    re-elected to a fourth term.  It's a full-time position in
         16    the town of Waterford.  And with that I will read my
         17    statement.
         18              I appreciate this opportunity to address the NRC
         19    and others present on this important issue.  Millstone
         20    station with its more than 2,000 employees is an important
         21    part of the town of Waterford and its safe operation is
         22    crucial to the economic and environmental well-being of our
         23    community, to the State of Connecticut and indeed to future
         24    of the nuclear industry.  The last two years have been a
         25    painful experience for not only the station workers, but for
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          1    the community as well.
          2              We've seen an erosion in what had been a good
          3    relationship between the station management and the
          4    community, public confidence in the ability of Northeast
          5    Utilities to operate the Millstone plants was seriously
          6    damaged during this time.  I believe, however, that several
          7    positive changes have resulted from this ordeal.  Much has
          8    been learned by the company, the community and indeed by
          9    NRC.
         10              First and most important historical deficiencies
         11    in the way Northeast Utility has done business a Millstone
         12    have been changed for the better.  The new leadership team
         13    is managing the station to a very high standard, and I am
         14    both hopeful and confident that Millstone will once again
         15    become an industry leader.
         16              Second, I speak with employees on site as well as
         17    many Millstone employees who live, work, and volunteer in
         18    our town government.  I now have confidence that the work
         19    environment at the plants has significantly improved over
         20    the past several months.  Workers are encouraged to bring
         21    forth issues to be resolved and are acknowledged and
         22    respected for doing so.  This speaks well for the future of
         23    this site and I believe this positive organizational climate
         24    will continue to be supported by management.
         25              I also believe that democratic process worked well
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          1    here.  Two years ago there was a great deal of anger and
          2    emotion in the community about the unfolding situation at
          3    Millstone.  As a result of over 100 public meetings, over
          4    the past two years, our community is much better informed
          5    about the complexities of nuclear power plant operations.
          6              As we move towards the future, we will do so in a
          7    more informed -- as a more informed and more aware
          8    community.  I commend the members of the various public
          9    groups and company employees who have been involved in this
         10    process because they have raised very legitimate issues.  I
         11    commend the NRC staff for allowing these concerns to be
         12    discussed openly in an inclusive public process.  These
         13    meetings, I believe, have provided everyone with the
         14    opportunity to be heard.
         15              It is my hope that the public citizen groups will
         16    continue to stay involved in the process to help ensure a
         17    safe operation of the plants and that they will again --
         18    will gain the confidence in plant operations.  Some men
         19    never gain that confidence, but their participation is still
         20    an important part of the process.
         21              I want to publicly thank the new management and
         22    all Millstone employees for their efforts and their part in
         23    the process of developing the new work environment of the
         24    plants.  The thousands of employees at the site have put in
         25    countless hours at great sacrifice to themselves and to
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          1    their families.  I know how hard they have worked on that
          2    effort and I am confident that the plants will be operated
          3    safely in the future.
          4              And I comment the Commission for their willingness
          5    to include the various public interest groups in this
          6    meeting today.  I also appreciate being included myself as
          7    first selectman of the host community which is the town of
          8    Waterford.
          9              Now, I believe it is time to get on with the
         10    process of safe operations at Millstone 3.  Millstone has
         11    historically been a good neighbor.  Millstone's new
         12    management is determined to restore the status.  I ask that
         13    you authorize the restart of Millstone 3 so that we can
         14    begin to put this painful chapter behind us.
         15              I'm happy to answer any questions which the
         16    Commissioners may have.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Any questions, Commissioner
         18    Dicus?
         19              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  No, thank you.
         20              MR. SHERIDAN:  Thank you very much.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
         22              I would like to call forward Mr. John Markowicz,
         23    Vice Chairman of the Nuclear Energy Advisory Council for the
         24    State of Connecticut.
         25              Good afternoon.
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          1              MR. MARKOWICZ:  Good afternoon, Chairman Jackson,
          2    NRC Commissioners.  Thank you for this opportunity to
          3    participate in the public briefing on selected issues
          4    related to the proposed restart of Millstone 3.
          5              My name is John Markowicz.  I'm a citizen of
          6    Waterford, Connecticut, and as you've indicated, Vice
          7    Chairman of the State of Connecticut Nuclear Energy Advisory
          8    Council, also known as NEAC.
          9              With my family I've resided for the past 21 years
         10    within two miles of the Millstone Nuclear Power Station.
         11    Prior to that for more than 11 years I served on active duty
         12    as a nuclear trained commissioned officer in the United
         13    States Navy, including a final tour as chief engineer of a
         14    fast attack nuclear submarine.
         15              I have never been employed by a commercial nuclear
         16    utility.  As a local civic leader and as a businessman, I
         17    was nominated by the first selectman of Waterford, Mr.
         18    Sheridan, to serve as a volunteer on the NEAC nearly two
         19    years ago.
         20              NEAC was established by the Connecticut
         21    legislature by public act in 1996.  Our membership consists
         22    of 14 uncompensated appointees from varied backgrounds and
         23    perspectives to provide diversity, balance, and credibility. 
         24    We receive clerical support from the Department of the
         25    Environmental Protection and have been appropriated $15,000
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          1    per year for travel funds in Fiscal Years 1998, the current
          2    year, and 1999.
          3              Four of us have signed communications protocols
          4    with the NRC.  We have been charged by the legislature to
          5    hold regular public meetings to discuss safety and operation
          6    of Connecticut's nuclear plants and to advise the Governor,
          7    the legislature of municipalities within a five-mile radius
          8    of the plants to work with Federal, state, and local
          9    governments and companies operating the facilities to ensure
         10    public health and safety, to discuss post-changes and
         11    problems arising from the operation from nuclear generating
         12    facilities and to communicate the written reports and
         13    presentations with nuclear plant operators about safety and
         14    operational concerns, and to review the current status of
         15    facilities with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
         16              Pursuant to this charter, the NEAC has regularly
         17    held 21 monthly meetings in Waterford, East Lyme, Haddam,
         18    and Hartford since we first met August 1st, 1996.
         19              At least one or more members of NEAC have
         20    monitored and observed more than 100 of the meetings, nearly
         21    all of which have been public noticed.  This includes 21 NRC
         22    public meetings; approximately 70 meetings between the NRC,
         23    the utility, Northeast Utilities or a third-party contractor
         24    such as Sergeant Lundy, Parsons Power, and Little Harbor
         25    Consultants; and at least 10 NU public meetings or senior
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          1    management training sessions that Mr. Kenyon and others
          2    talked about this morning.  I personally attended
          3    approximately 90 percent of those events.
          4              In addition, and in accordance with communication
          5    protocols I noted earlier, telephone conferences between the
          6    NRC, NU, and third-party contractors have been routinely
          7    monitored by two NEAC members whenever possible.
          8              Site visits, plant tours, periodic unannounced
          9    monitored observations have also occurred on several
         10    occasions both at Millstone and at Connecticut Yankee.  With
         11    this year's appropriations of travel funding NEAC members
         12    have also monitored the corrective action verification
         13    program activities on multiple locations both at Sergeant
         14    Lundy in Chicago, Illinois and at Parsons Power in Reading,
         15    Pennsylvania.  As required by the Public Act NEAC has
         16    prepared and submitted annual reports in 1996 and 1997 to
         17    the Governor and to the legislature.
         18              Copies of these two documents have also been
         19    distributed to the NRC and has documented therein extensive
         20    correspondence has also been generated with Federal and
         21    State officials and this has included a number of letters to
         22    the NRC.
         23              With this information as background, I would like
         24    to share with you the following observations for more than
         25    22 months of monitoring in Millstone Unit III restart
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          1    process.
          2              Public participation.  There has been significant
          3    efforts on the part of all parties in the process to solicit
          4    and receive public input.  Noticed meetings by the NRC have
          5    provided numerous opportunities for members of the public to
          6    observe and/or speak on Millstone restart issues. 
          7    Demonstrating similar openness, the utility, Northeast
          8    Utilities has sponsored open meetings in Waterford and
          9    Haddam, invited the public to normally closed officers'
         10    meeting and solicited comments via local advisory council
         11    committees at both locations.  I would note that as of
         12    yesterday, for example, at my request I was allowed to
         13    participate in a Nuclear Safety Assessment Board meeting
         14    inside the plant.
         15              The Citizens Regulatory Commission, CRC, also has
         16    hosted a weekly one-hour telephone call-in program on cable
         17    access television to voice its concerns and to take citizen
         18    input.
         19              Though the gap has narrowed, it would be
         20    inaccurate to assert that a uniform public consensus has
         21    emerged from these discussions as I'm sure you will conclude
         22    from the presentations you will receive today from all of
         23    the public interest groups.  However, it has been and I hope
         24    will continue to be a remarkably open process.
         25              Thousands of hours of effort by your staff, the
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          1    utility and the public have focused upon health and safety
          2    concerns.  NEAC appreciates the measures taken by the NRC to
          3    foster this level of public participation.  In this regard,
          4    I would like to mention the time and effort of the NRC staff
          5    personnel in hosting these local public meetings.  Open
          6    meetings in New England can be a unique experience and a
          7    test of the sponsor's tact, diplomacy, and restraint.  The
          8    monthly five-hour meetings that have been provided have
          9    provided your staff particularly the special projects office
         10    excellent opportunities to demonstrate these skills.
         11              They have certainly earned my respect and
         12    admiration.  I would also comment the appearances that you
         13    have made also on site and the willingness to take similar
         14    public events in stride.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I haven't done it 21 times,
         16    though.
         17              MR. MARKOWICZ:  Millstone employee concerns
         18    program and the safety conscious work environment, this has
         19    recurringly appeared to be the most challenging aspect of
         20    the restart process.  In part because it is difficult to
         21    quantify and evaluate.  It has been likened by one NEAC
         22    member as trying to get ones hands around smoke.  Most
         23    significantly NEAC has observed that a comprehensive change
         24    in the Millstone work culture was a fundamental prerequisite
         25    to restart certification.
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          1              While we fully support the NRC order establishing
          2    third-party oversight in this area, we raise concerns and
          3    questions regarding your independence criteria and the
          4    membership of Little Harbor consultants.  Having now
          5    observed the implementation of this order for nearly 16
          6    months, it appears that Little Harbor consultants has
          7    credibly implemented the letter and the spirit of the order.
          8              A comprehensive plan and common-sense approach to
          9    grading attributes provide a quantitative criteria for
         10    understanding and evaluating progress by NU in this critical
         11    area.  It has -- it was and is essential that Little Harbor
         12    consultants to maintain lines of communications with NU
         13    employees to implement the NRC order.
         14              I know some in the public have recently challenged
         15    this degree of interaction that has resulted.
         16              NEAC has observed that Little Harbor consultant,
         17    North East Utilities, and the NRC have demonstrated a
         18    reasonable, best effort to achieve and maintain an
         19    arm's-length, third-party oversight.
         20              Furthermore, the trends reported to the public by
         21    Northeast Utilities and Little Harbor Consultants on April
         22    7th, and also this morning, are believable and suggest the
         23    work place culture at Millstone has improved.  We also
         24    observe that this condition is fragile.  It requires
         25    continued monitoring by NU management and by Little Harbor
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          1    as an arm's-length wandering at least until the number of
          2    employee concerns and NRC allegations has been reduced to
          3    and maintained at the industry averages or best run nuclear
          4    power plants.  I would suggest based on some of the
          5    discussions this morning that you consider something like
          6    that is a metric for when the order ought to be relaxed
          7    and/or Little Harbor could be released from their
          8    assignment.
          9              Deferred items management and corrective action. 
         10    The major challenges and solutions to deferred items
         11    management has been more understandable than employee
         12    concerns and safety conscious work environment issues.
         13              The magnitude of this situation has been of
         14    particular concern with 88 risk-significant, or
         15    safety-significant systems at Millstone 3.  As well is the
         16    erosion of public confidence and the ability of the NRC to
         17    monitor and enforce corrective actions standards.
         18              Though challenging again, the independence
         19    criteria for the selection of third-party contractors to
         20    implement the corrective action verification program, NEAC's
         21    support of the goals and objectives of the NRC order. 
         22    Additional confidence in this process was established when
         23    NEAC was allowed to develop and implement a random process
         24    for selecting the corrective action and verification program
         25    systems and the NRC then went on to further define four
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          1    understandable levels of publicly grouping and disseminating
          2    the deficiency reports of DR that were produced by the
          3    contractor.
          4              Pursuant to the affirmation communications
          5    protocols NEAC members have monitored telephone conferences
          6    and working meetings both public and closed between the NRC,
          7    the NU, and Sergeant Lundy.
          8              NEAC is satisfied that an arm's-length
          9    relationship has been achieved and maintained and that the
         10    work product from Sergeant Lundy is credible.  My personal
         11    observations from participating in nearly all of the public
         12    working and private working level meetings differs from
         13    others' characterize that this is hand holding.
         14              We insisted on an independence criteria and it
         15    evolved into an arm's-length criteria and the proof of that
         16    was, when I went to this meeting, the first couple of
         17    meetings, in fact all meetings, and when a question would be
         18    asked by Sergeant Lundy with the NRC sitting between
         19    Sergeant-Lundy and the utility, and the response from the
         20    utility was a deer-in-headlights look like, gee, I didn't
         21    know that's what you wanted, I was assured the process was
         22    arm's-length.  Others would look at as because there were
         23    exchanges of information, I would attribute that to the
         24    rigidity of the communications protocol and the fact that we
         25    had to then go beyond exchanging pieces of paper to have
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          1    face-to-face communications.
          2              However, the number of deferred items remains of
          3    concern, particularly the number of level four DRs that
          4    emerged from the CAVP process.  The docketed commitment by
          5    Northeast Utilities on March 9th regarding final corrective
          6    action on deferred level for DRs, prior to the completion of
          7    the next refueling outage is positively noted by NEAC. 
          8    Insofar as practical, and this is a suggestion, this should
          9    be the standard goal for all current deferred items.  In
         10    other words, for the numbers that were shown this morning by
         11    Mike and other that perhaps the goal should be that only the
         12    level four -- commitment to the level four DRs is being
         13    correctively pursued before the end of the next refueling
         14    outage, but perhaps all that are currently on the table. 
         15    That level of confidence would perhaps be well received by
         16    the public.
         17              In addition, NEAC considers the prompt and
         18    comprehensive implementation of Passport, it's a software
         19    management control system, as essential for North East
         20    Utilities to establish world-class deferred items management
         21    control.
         22              Management oversight and quality assurance.  Many
         23    of the observations noted in the preceding two paragraphs
         24    have management oversight and quality assurance
         25    implications.  Specific observations of oversight have been
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          1    by the very nature and function rather limited.
          2              Certainly the small number of level three DRs
          3    resulting from the CAVP process reflect upon the validity of
          4    oversight certification process.  The results of ongoing NRC
          5    inspections will add to this database.
          6              The public and press have recently challenged the
          7    role of oversight and the recirculations system are
          8    assessed.  But that was discussed earlier this morning.
          9              We were similarly concerned.  We were similarly
         10    concerned because in the press reports we read, and as I
         11    indicated to you, Commissioner Diaz, when you came and
         12    visited that there seemed to be this risk taking that, well,
         13    we'll test it and it if fails we'll take that risk.  And
         14    there was the fear that, well, we're rushing to schedule and
         15    not doing what makes sense.
         16              So I attended the April 7th meeting that the NRC
         17    hosted at Northeast Utilities.  Present were Northeast
         18    Utilities and Sargent & Lundy.  There was a very thorough
         19    discussion of the events that led up to the detection of the
         20    failure and the corrective action that resulted.
         21              The failure was the result of cavitation.  The
         22    cavitation was neither predicted by anybody in the room,
         23    neither the members of the oversight team nor the engineers
         24    and design staff nor contractor experts from the field nor
         25    Sargent & Lundy.  That was what caused the sleeve to fail.
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          1              Now I agree with Don DelCore.  The Navy knows a
          2    lot about cavitation -- you know, propellers when I go fast,
          3    velocity, speed and pressure and all that kind of stuff, so
          4    I think there is probably something on the industry that
          5    massive flow rates through orifices and cavitation ought to
          6    be something to be studied even further, but I was assured
          7    that the process that was described this morning by
          8    Northeast Utilities whereby Oversight took a position, there
          9    was a test created, there were criteria established, and
         10    Oversight maintained a position in the process to the end
         11    was in fact the role of Oversight in the process, and that
         12    nobody was taking a risk.
         13              There was a test to determine whether the
         14    calculations were accurate and nobody predicted that
         15    cavitation would cause the failure.  I even asked the person
         16    from Oversight that made the calculation whether he
         17    predicted cavitation and he did not -- so it is my opinion
         18    that Oversight appeared to properly execute its
         19    responsibility in this particular situation
         20              I would also add that having observed the NASB
         21    meeting yesterday, there was a very frank, very objective,
         22    very comprehensive and a firmly-focused meeting on all
         23    appropriate aspects of nuclear safety.
         24              In summary, I have the following observations.
         25              First, the two NRC orders applicable to Millstone
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          1    3 have established credible, arms-length processes for
          2    evaluating the progress of Northeast Utilities in
          3    establishing an employee concerns program, a
          4    safety-conscious work environment, and deferred items
          5    management control.
          6              Second, Northeast Utilities has demonstrated
          7    steady, measurable improvement as documented in third party
          8    contractors' reports and public presentations.
          9              Third, process and procedures established and
         10    maintained by the NRC for oversight at Millstone should
         11    continue beyond restart and until measurable standards have
         12    been achieved and maintained by NU.  Sustained public
         13    confidence in the safe operation of Millstone has not been
         14    completely established.
         15              I offered you a suggested metric in the area of
         16    the Employee Concerns Program and Little Harbor.  I would
         17    suggest that upon release of the independent contractor,
         18    Sargent & Lundy, consideration might be given to surprise or
         19    unannounced inspections.  My background in the Navy with the
         20    operation and reactor safeguards exam was that annually you
         21    got one, and then any time in between the team could show up
         22    and they could inspect you again, and it certainly kept me
         23    on my toes, and a process like that whereby an NRC team
         24    either for an SSFI or something like that would show up
         25    periodically and pick a system and check the status of the
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          1    corrective action program might be a way of continuing to
          2    monitor the process on a kind of randomly selected basis.
          3              Subject to your questions, this completes my
          4    prepared remarks.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much. 
          6    Questions?
          7              [No response.]
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.  I would like to
          9    call forward from the Connecticut Department of
         10    Environmental Protection, Mr. Kevin A. McCarthy, Director of
         11    Air Quality Monitoring and Radiation.  Good afternoon
         12              MR. McCARTHY:  Good afternoon.  Thank you, Madam
         13    Chairman, Commissioner Dicus, Commissioner Diaz,
         14    Commissioner McGaffigan -- thank you for the opportunity to
         15    address you this afternoon.
         16              As was indicated, my name is Kevin McCarthy.  I am
         17    the Director of the Radiation Control Division of the State
         18    Department of Environmental Protection.  I am also the State
         19    Liaison Officer for the State of Connecticut and Governor
         20    Rowland's representative to the Northeast Interstate
         21    Low-Level Radioactive Waste Commission.  Currently I am the
         22    Chairman of that Commission.
         23              I also frequently represent Commissioner Rock at
         24    the Nuclear Energy Advisory Council meetings, the council
         25    that we just heard from.
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          1              The DEP has several roles with regard to nuclear
          2    power plants in the State of Connecticut.  We have a
          3    radiological response function and a non-radiological,
          4    regulatory responsibility.
          5              The radiological function includes the protection
          6    of the public health and safety in the event of an emergency
          7    involving the exposure or potential exposure to radioactive
          8    material.  This function, as you know, is not limited to
          9    nuclear power plants but involves all facilities that
         10    utilize radioactive material.
         11              We obviously take that responsibility very
         12    seriously and work very closely with your staff, other
         13    federal agencies, other state agencies, local and private
         14    organizations to ensure a constant state of readiness.
         15              The non-radiological regulatory responsibility
         16    involves the issuance of various waste permits, water
         17    discharge permits and air permits.
         18              We have been keenly interested in the
         19    circumstances associated with the nuclear power plants
         20    situated in Connecticut and have been following closely the
         21    changes that have occurred at Millstone.
         22              We have also observed positive changes at the NRC.
         23              There are many very important issues that are
         24    being addressed a Millstone.  Time does not permit
         25    addressing all of them.  We heard a lot of them this
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          1    morning.  They range from training, maintenance, equipment
          2    replacement, quality control, quality assurance, emergency
          3    planning, radiological controls, environmental monitoring --
          4    and the list goes on.
          5              However, one characteristic of the past senior
          6    management team that trickled down to supervisors and many
          7    of the employees was attitude, and I would like to talk to
          8    it just for a moment.
          9              The lack of a safety-conscious attitude on the
         10    part of previous senior management led to a loss of respect
         11    for the regulatory process.  The loss of respect for the
         12    regulatory process resulted in a decline in regulatory
         13    performance and the lack of a safety-conscious work
         14    environment at the Millstone Nuclear Power Complex.
         15              The decline in regulatory performance resulted in
         16    the NRC action that placed the Millstone units on the Watch
         17    List.
         18              Over the last several months we have received
         19    reports and correspondence that indicates that the new
         20    management team at Millstone is indeed demonstrating a
         21    change in attitude.  The Employee Concerns Program is
         22    closely linked to the concept of a safety-conscious work
         23    environment.
         24              Recently, the independent third party oversight
         25    program concurred that Northeast Nuclear Energy Company has
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          1    achieved a safety-conscious work environment at Millstone,
          2    and NRC documents dated April 20th and April 21st and
          3    others, but I am referring to those in particular, one of
          4    which was entitled "Employee Concerns Program and
          5    Safety-Conscious Work Environment Evaluation at Millstone
          6    Nuclear Power Station" -- the documents generally reported
          7    that although the team found two weaknesses in the
          8    safety-conscious work environment that required attention,
          9    the evaluation team found that the Employee Concerns Program
         10    was well-established, that Northeast Nuclear Energy Company
         11    had significantly improved the Employee Concerns Program,
         12    and that the Employee Concerns Program was functioning
         13    effectively.
         14              The Department has received additional NRC and
         15    contractor reports that indicates this very important change
         16    in attitude.
         17              In the area of the non-radiological environmental
         18    programs, we understand that several improvements have been
         19    and are currently being made to Millstone's non-radiological
         20    environmental program.  New policies are being implemented
         21    and training to support environmental programs has been
         22    conducted.  Key station procedures now include environmental
         23    considerations.
         24              In conclusion, it appears as though the
         25    effectiveness of NRC's regulatory program has improved.  We
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          1    support the continued efforts to improve the
          2    safety-conscious work environment which should result in
          3    regulatory compliance at Millstone.
          4              However, the commitment must continue.  The
          5    concepts of critical self-assessment, of questioning
          6    attitude, conservative decision-making, and respect for the
          7    regulatory process by both Northeast Utilities and the NRC
          8    will result in a safer facility.
          9              If you allow nuclear operations to continue at
         10    Millstone, you must regulate and oversee with diligence to
         11    ensure that all nuclear activities are performed in a safe
         12    manner.
         13              That concludes my remarks.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
         15    Commissioner?
         16              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  I have one question.
         17              The Citizens' Regulatory Council, which is going
         18    to follow you, has given us an outline of their
         19    presentation, and on it twice occurs the words DEP,
         20    Department of Environmental Protection, I assume, violations
         21    under the category of safety-conscious work environment and
         22    health and safety.
         23              Are there recent violations --
         24              MR. McCARTHY:  Yes.
         25              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  -- that you'd want to
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          1    talk about.
          2              MR. McCARTHY:  There have been recent violations. 
          3    Right now they are in litigation and we are asked not to
          4    discuss that litigation process, especially under these
          5    conditions, but yes, there have been violations -- not only
          6    the Department is concerned.  The Attorney General's office
          7    is also involved.
          8              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  But that doesn't detract
          9    from the statement you just made that on balance you think
         10    that --
         11              MR. McCARTHY:  That's correct.
         12              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Thank you.
         13              MR. McCARTHY:  Well, what I did say was that in
         14    their non-radiological environmental program they have
         15    indeed, you know, improved and committed to additional
         16    improvements.
         17              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Okay.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Any other questions?
         19              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  You are saying the
         20    non-radiological.  How about the radiological program?
         21              MR. McCARTHY:  The radiological program -- we are
         22    involved with that.  As I indicated, you obviously take the
         23    lead in the radiological program.  We are involved to the
         24    extent that we respond in the event of an emergency.
         25              We become familiar with the plant.  We need to
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          1    understand the operations at Millstone in order to
          2    understand if there is any kind of an emergency how to
          3    respond to that particular emergency, and you know, as I
          4    said earlier, we feel that with the work that was done in
          5    turning around the attitudes associated with upper
          6    management, we feel that trickled down and it is a safer
          7    facility, or will be.
          8              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Thank you.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
         10              From the Citizens' Awareness Network, I would like
         11    to call forward Ms. Deborah Katz, their President, and
         12    Rosemary Bassilakis.
         13              MS. KATZ:  Thank you for having us speak to you
         14    today and thanks for having Rosemary come up with me.  We
         15    were both a little nervous about this, so we figured if we
         16    were together, it would be safer.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  It's safe, at any rate.
         18              MS. KATZ:  Well, safer.  Always safety first.
         19              I wanted to -- I am going to talk about the issues
         20    of the -- issues of an absence of a safety-conscious work
         21    environment, and Rosemary will focus more on the issues of
         22    Little Harbor and standards.
         23              One of the things that we are very concerned about
         24    are the issues of intimidation and harassment and the
         25    systemic mismanagement by Northeast Utilities that has gone
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          1    on over a period of time which resulted in, in fact, their
          2    being closed for two years.  And one of the things that is
          3    -- and this is important to us because in fact we live in
          4    impacted communities, and we in our communities suffer from
          5    issues of intimidation and harassment when we question
          6    what's going on at our local reactor.  So how workers are
          7    treated directly affects us, in fact, because if they are
          8    intimidated, then the ability for communities to question
          9    what is going on is really compromised to an even greater
         10    extent.  And since workers basically protect us by their
         11    questioning, it is essential that an open atmosphere and a
         12    democratic atmosphere happen.
         13              I mean one of our concerns is that basically
         14    Little Harbor has said that it would -- in terms of
         15    intimidation and harassment and issues of allegations, it's
         16    only on April 4th that NU actually got a passing grade.  And
         17    this is a minimal passing grade.  This is just satisfactory. 
         18    In March they didn't pass.  This is very serious to us.  We
         19    don't believe that the utility, until it has shown
         20    significant passing grades for a period of time, should be
         21    allowed to operate.  And we also believe that they should
         22    have to be able to stand alone before they stand operating;
         23    that they shouldn't reach a point after they are operating
         24    for a while where they don't need Little Harbor.  They
         25    should be able to demonstrate that they can do it without
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          1    Little Harbor, even though Little Harbor is still there, and
          2    then Little Harbor should watch them during the period for
          3    another six months at least after they are up.  But to allow
          4    them, with only three weeks of satisfactory performance, to
          5    go on line in terms of work and intimidation is unacceptable
          6    to us.
          7              There have been repeated instances in terms of
          8    worker harassment.  There were the MOV workers and the
          9    contractors who were fired there, managers and supervisors
         10    were responsible, they were demoted and not fired.  The
         11    message to us is really anomalous in that we think these
         12    were serious violations, and that it's true these people
         13    left, but they -- the only people that have been fired have
         14    been workers in this whole situation.
         15              We are also very concerned with the Focus 98 memo
         16    in which everyone knows there were issues of isolating
         17    cynics, pockets of negativity, and in fact CAN submitted a
         18    2.206 petition with Nuclear Information and Resource
         19    Service, and we believe that a determination on that should
         20    take place before restart is allowed.
         21              Now Northeast Utilities is asking for the benefit
         22    of the doubt, but we think the benefit of the doubt, after
         23    two years of history on these issues, you know, is really
         24    stretching things.  And if it's true that it was meant --
         25    and it wasn't meant to mean anything, then how come two of
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          1    their executives resigned?  I mean it's sort of an anomalous
          2    situation.  If this was just mere accident and didn't mean
          3    anything, well, why were two of the people responsible left
          4    the company?
          5              And if it is true that it was just an accident, as
          6    it were, then somewhere they don't get it yet.  They are not
          7    getting it.  And this is a serious concern to us, because if
          8    they don't understand the power they have over their work
          9    force, if they don't understand the effect that managers and
         10    supervisors have over ordinary workers, they are not getting
         11    it, and that really concerns us.
         12              There is also Captain Guy Mendenhall who will in
         13    fact talk a little later, but he has submitted a series of
         14    complaints and concerns.  As far as we know, no action has
         15    been taken on these, and he will speak to those.
         16              We also know that there are approximately five
         17    allegations per month still being submitted to the NRC, and
         18    this is very high in terms of what is going on in terms of
         19    this company.
         20              That's Northeast Utilities.  And I just want to
         21    focus, though, for a moment on the NRC Commission because
         22    this systemic mismanagement at NU and their lack of
         23    compliance with the rules and regulations couldn't exist
         24    without, in a certain way, the NRC not doing their job,
         25    which is of even more distress to us.  I mean, you know, the
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          1    utility is not a human rights organization, but the agency
          2    is here to protect our health and safety, and it hasn't done
          3    it.  And so we are concerned whether there has been
          4    collusion or intimidation by NRC Staff or whether there's
          5    been a kind of abdication on the front lines for the NRC to
          6    be doing their jobs.  We believe an investigation of this
          7    has to take place for the public, us ordinary citizens in
          8    the front lines with those reactors, to know that there are
          9    people doing their jobs here.
         10              We really believe that a message has to be sent at
         11    this point that reactors in New England, you know, and
         12    throughout the country, aren't going to operate the same way
         13    they have, because Vermont Yankee is suffering from these
         14    mistakes; Connecticut Yankee; there -- Maine Yankee; Pilgrim
         15    has just gotten fined.
         16              What we want the NRC to say is that, you know, you
         17    are a strict, tough regulator and second-rate work will no
         18    longer be accepted, and intimidation and harassment is no
         19    longer acceptable or allowed by the NRC.
         20              MS. BASSILAKIS:  Millstone's safety-conscious work
         21    environment must be held to tougher standards than those
         22    currently put in place by Little Harbor.  If your agency is
         23    unwilling to hold them to tougher standards, then as Debbie
         24    had mentioned, at the very least Millstone should
         25    demonstrate that they can sustain an effective
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          1    safety-conscious work environment for a designated period of
          2    time prior to restart.
          3              You see, the inherent problem with your agency
          4    accepting mediocrity from Millstone safety-conscious work
          5    environment is that it leaves absolutely no margin, no
          6    margin for the work environment to backslide without falling
          7    into one of these categories that isn't acceptable to
          8    restart.  They are really right on the margin of being
          9    acceptable, as Debbie pointed out.  And that is really
         10    unacceptable to us.
         11              There could be an incident or event that could
         12    take place that would definitely negatively impact this work
         13    environment, and being in the community we don't feel
         14    comfortable knowing that they are going to be on line at
         15    that point in time, and we know they will be very hard
         16    pressed to shut down in the future once they start up again.
         17              So it would be of great comfort to us to know that
         18    they have really gotten a handle on their safety-conscious
         19    work environment enough that a backward slide wouldn't
         20    negatively impact them.
         21              Another inherent with the mediocre standards
         22    currently in place is that Unit 3 will be operational as
         23    Millstone safety-conscious work environment attempts to wean
         24    itself from the unprecedented and extraordinary level of
         25    management attention, legal advice and other resources.  And
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          1    Millstone still does have to wean itself from Little
          2    Harbor's hand-holding, and we would go on to say that we
          3    don't think they have been at arm's length at all; in fact,
          4    they have been very much involved with what's been going on
          5    at Millstone.  And it's very easy to behave a certain way
          6    when you know you are being watched closely, but what is
          7    going to happen as Little Harbor pulls back and is not
          8    watching closely?
          9              So this again is very -- this sort of
         10    co-dependency is very dangerous, and Millstone should have
         11    not only an effective safety-conscious work environment, but
         12    one that can stand on its own two feet prior to restart.
         13              Now Little Harbor, whose leaders are made up of
         14    ex-utility executives, has a seemingly biasness towards
         15    management, and this biasness seems to prevent them from
         16    being fully objective, in our opinion.  Little Harbor
         17    allowed a new management to quantitatively compare 1997
         18    leadership survey data to that obtained in 1996.  Everyone
         19    knows that quantitative comparison is invalid, yet Little
         20    Harbor allowed Northeast Utilities to provide you, the
         21    Commission, with this deceptive information during both the
         22    August and December 1997 Commission meetings.  Little Harbor
         23    is giving the green light for restart, even with the
         24    inappropriate nuclear oversight focus 98 list surfacing;
         25    with all its underlying chilling tactics that it represents. 
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          1    Little Harbor is giving the green light, even though 27
          2    percent of the identified focus, otherwise called problem
          3    areas, remain open.  And this is after two years that 27
          4    percent of these focus areas remain open.  That's a long
          5    time.  And they're not resolved yet.
          6              Little Harbor is giving the green light, even
          7    though they were aware of Captain Guy Mendenhall's February
          8    12th resignation in disgust with management, and the
          9    employee concerns programs' lack of response to his
         10    concerns, until after he went public on April 8th at an NRC
         11    meeting.
         12              Little Harbor also apparently finds it acceptable
         13    that Millstone's employee concerns program still relies
         14    significantly on contracted help; still 50 percent of the
         15    employee concerns program is made up of contractors.  This
         16    is of concern.  And I have raised this with Little Harbor,
         17    you know, what's going to happen as this transition goes on
         18    and contractors leave?  Is it going to still be an effective
         19    employee concerns program?
         20              So we believe that Little Harbor is not holding
         21    Millstone accountable to tough enough standards, standards
         22    that are acceptable for restart.  Little Harbor, however, is
         23    not the regulating body charged with protecting public and
         24    worker health and safety.  It is the NRC who must protect
         25    our communities.  Therefore, we are asking you to require
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          1    Little Harbor to create a standard of excellence at
          2    Northeast Utilities that will assure the safe operation of
          3    the Millstone units if that is ever possible.
          4              Thank you.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.  Questions? 
          6    Commissioner Dicus?
          7              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  I think both of you indicated
          8    that you believe that Northeast Utilities should have a
          9    passing grade in their employee concern program as well as
         10    the safety culture work environment program for quote,
         11    unquote, some time.  Could you characterize and define some
         12    time?
         13              MS. KATZ:  You want to give that to me?
         14              I would say they would need to do that for at
         15    least six months; that they would need to get passing
         16    grades.  I mean in school we have to pass, to pass the class
         17    and go on.  We are not allowed to just get one grade that's
         18    good and get the others that fail.  So that I think they
         19    should have to go through a whole term and pass the grades
         20    before it could go forward.  I mean I think they should do
         21    what we had to do in school.
         22              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  You know, you have mentioned
         23    several times the fact that there are mediocre standards. 
         24    Would you expand on that, you know, how -- you know, what
         25    are all those standards?  Because it's a difficult issue,
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          1    and I'd like to know more, you know, what are higher
          2    standards.  What are they?
          3              MS. BASSILAKIS:  Higher standards would be
          4    standards that could allow Northeast Utilities to slide
          5    backwards without falling into the red.  So if they were
          6    held to a more excellence of a standard, that would be
          7    possible, that an event could occur, there could be a
          8    chilling effect in the organization but it wouldn't be such
          9    that it would affect safety at the plant.
         10              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  But is there -- you know, in
         11    the -- I'm sure you have analyzed Little Harbor's
         12    performance standards and so forth.  Is there any one of
         13    those that you could pinpoint and say this should be higher
         14    than what it is?  You know, 98 percent one time, and 83
         15    percent.  Is there one particular standard that --
         16              MS. BASSILAKIS:  No, and I'm referring to the four
         17    attributes that they put up.
         18              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  That's right.
         19              MS. BASSILAKIS:  Those are the standards that I'm
         20    referring to.
         21              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  You mean the yellow on the --
         22    MS. BASSILAKIS:  Yes, exactly.  And, in fact, when they
         23    first came out with their indicators and their, you know,
         24    their whole criteria, restart could be obtained when
         25    something still required management action.  And, in fact,
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          1    they changed that.  If it still required management action,
          2    they would be allowed to restart, but because there was such
          3    misunderstanding or concern about how it was worded, they
          4    changed the way they laid out that format.  But just high
          5    enough standards that they could slip backwards and health
          6    and safety wouldn't be impacted.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So you are saying it should be
          8    beyond the yellow category?
          9              MS. BASSILAKIS:  Or at least maybe the yellow with
         10    an up arrow, or something.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So you're looking for more
         12    margin.
         13              MS. BASSILAKIS:  More margin.  I mean let's have a
         14    little margin here.  This is a utility that went beyond
         15    chilling workers.  I mean they were frozen for a long time.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Thank you.
         17              [Applause.]
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
         19              I'd like to call forward from the Citizens
         20    Regulatory Commission Ms. Perry-Luxton and Mr. Guy
         21    Mendenhall.
         22              MS. PERRY-LUXTON.  Good morning, Chairman
         23    Jackson -- I mean afternoon, Commissioner Dicus,
         24    Commissioner Diaz, Commissioner McGaffigan.
         25              I'm Susan Perry-Luxton from the Citizens
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          1    Regulatory Commission.  I represent a grassroots citizens
          2    group from Waterford, Connecticut, housed in Waterford,
          3    originated in Waterford, but from southeastern Connecticut
          4    as a whole.
          5              We've been asking questions of your Commission and
          6    Millstone for the last 2-1/2 years when George Glatas,
          7    senior engineer at Millstone Station, revealed to the public
          8    in the fall of 1995 that Northeast Utilities was operating
          9    in a manner that was dangerous and illegal.
         10              So we formed the group, and here we are, still
         11    plugging away.
         12              Joining me today are a few residents of
         13    Connecticut who represent thousands who have grave doubts
         14    about the readiness of this utility to restart.  In the
         15    final analysis the decision you make is not about programs,
         16    not about pipes, and not about Northeast Utilities' profits,
         17    it's about people, individuals and families living in
         18    eastern Connecticut, the people that were here this morning
         19    with the babies crying in the gallery and the young kids
         20    sitting on the floor.
         21              For the safety of our community, we're convinced
         22    that Northeast Utilities' ECP or Employee Concerns Program
         23    and safety-conscious work environment require a period of
         24    successful, sustained performance.  Mere improvement is not
         25    sufficient.
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          1              Management oversight and quality assurance. 
          2    Assurance at this time should be vigorous, proactive, and
          3    independent and effective.  This would enable a true
          4    recovery, but instead it has been and remains dysfunctional. 
          5    It has been and remains dysfunctional.
          6              Regarding the management of the 5,700 or whatever
          7    items that the management has on the deferred items list, we
          8    don't believe that they should be deferring anything,
          9    because we understood that when NRC came, Dr. Jackson came
         10    to our community and said that all these things were going
         11    to be fixed before restart.  With the history that NU has
         12    had of not fixing things -- I mean, some of those things on
         13    the -- in this process were from ten years ago, they still
         14    hadn't fixed them, and when they went down they had to be on
         15    the deferred items list.
         16              We go no, no, we don't want that, because we feel
         17    that nuclear power is a controlled nuclear explosion within
         18    the plant.  The conditions of safety are very precise.  The
         19    process is an organic unity, and small details can lead to
         20    major problems.  But to ask us to accept 5,700 small details
         21    is not acceptable because this is what got NU in trouble in
         22    the first place is their inattention to detail.
         23              So now what brings us to this conclusion is not
         24    just experiencing the last two years of dealing with
         25    Northeast Utilities, but also listening to the concerned
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          1    voices from the inside, because workers of conscience that
          2    call -- to this day I'm still getting about two calls --
          3    several calls a week from people in different departments
          4    who express concerns to me or need to be given the names
          5    of -- they don't feel they can go to ECP.  They don't feel
          6    they can go to Employee Concerns, and they don't feel they
          7    can go to Little Harbor.
          8              As a matter of fact, last week someone said I'm
          9    not going to Little Harbor -- because I say, "Did you go to
         10    Little Harbor?  Would you go to the ECP?"  And they said no,
         11    they're not going to Little Harbor because we feel they're
         12    in bed with the utility.  This is an employee telling me
         13    this.  So when I'm still getting calls and the NRC is still
         14    getting a lot of allegations, then something is not right
         15    with the safety-conscious work environment.  So if you're
         16    going to fulfill your moral and statutory obligation to
         17    ensure the protection of the health and safety of the
         18    public, you must listen to these warnings.
         19              nd I want to mention just a couple things.  I have
         20    three reports referring to the DEP question Commissioner
         21    McGaffigan had that came out in March for violation of
         22    permits that Millstone engaged in.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Why don't you hand them to the
         24    secretary, please.
         25              MS. PERRY-LUXTON.  Oh, sorry.  I forget where we
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          1    are.
          2              And then I also have our mission statement and a
          3    little bit about us.  But --
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Give it to the secretary.
          5              MS. PERRY-LUXTON.  Ninety copies was just too much
          6    for me, 90 copies.  So -- I almost didn't get here.  I was
          7    caught at the zoo with -- in the rain.
          8              Now the reason -- I need to say one more thing,
          9    and that is about the RSS.  I had to leave this morning.  I
         10    couldn't take it anymore listening to Millstone management
         11    about the RSS.  To me the RSS modification failure was a
         12    clear example that things are dysfunctional still at
         13    Millstone, that ethics and leadership at Millstone are still
         14    lacking, as they were when we got into this 2-1/2 years ago,
         15    because they continue whenever an event happens, they
         16    continue to spin it, to spin it so it comes out making them
         17    look good.  And I can't see how the calculation problem, the
         18    relationship between oversight and the line that broke down
         19    and the engineering, elementary engineering that was
         20    evidence could possibly be put in the positive category for
         21    them.
         22              So that's all I have to say about that.  But with
         23    me today is a highly qualified individual with impeccable
         24    credentials, a patriot, a veteran, a captain of nuclear
         25    submarines who absolutely stunned us at a public meeting a
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          1    couple of weeks ago, and we felt that you had to hear his
          2    story, because when we heard it, it stunned us because it
          3    validated our concerns.  The concerns that we've been having
          4    for the last months were verbalized by this man who left the
          5    company.  That's why I wanted him to share our time.  So I
          6    give you Captain Guy Mendenhall.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
          8              MR. MENDENHALL:  With that introduction --
          9    Chairwoman Jackson, Commissioners, I am Captain Guy
         10    Mendenhall, United States Navy, Retired.  I reside in Gails
         11    Ferry, Connecticut.
         12              I served as a commissioned officer in the Navy for
         13    26 years, retiring from active duty in 1992.  For 20 of
         14    those 26 years I served in nuclear-powered submarines, where
         15    I was responsible and accountable for the training,
         16    qualification, operational performance of increasingly
         17    larger-size organizations which operate and maintain nuclear
         18    powerplants.  For eight of those 26 years I was commanding
         19    officer of two nuclear-powered submarines.
         20              Additionally I served two years as a direct
         21    representative of Admiral Rickover on one of his training
         22    facilities.  I reported to him at least weekly in writing on
         23    the performance of students, Navy staff, and managing
         24    contractors at nuclear propulsion training units where they
         25    operated three reactors.
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          1              For five years following my departure from the
          2    Navy and concluding with my resignation in February of this
          3    year, I served as a lead auditor and then as a
          4    self-assessment coordinator in the independent and line
          5    nuclear oversight organizations and performance assessment
          6    organizations at Millstone.
          7              I have a very long list of prepared remarks today,
          8    but I feel that I need to talk and address some of the
          9    things that were brought up.  And I know the time is an
         10    item, and so I will not --
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me say this to you.  There
         12    is a time limit, because (a) we have to respect everyone who
         13    wants to present.
         14              MR. MENDENHALL:  Yes, ma'am.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And (b) one Member of the
         16    Commission does have a time constraint, and we want to be
         17    sure --
         18              MR. MENDENHALL:  Well, I will keep my time short.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  To hear everyone.  Thank you.
         20              MR. MENDENHALL:  I was to say the least blown away
         21    by the presentation made by NU today.  It's typical of what
         22    bells and whistles and they have thousands -- they have
         23    millions of dollars to spend on presentations and they have
         24    millions of graphs and performance indicators, but that's a
         25    different side of performance that I don't think they
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          1    understand.
          2              There are two sides -- you have programs and
          3    processes, and they tell the people how to do the job.  And
          4    you have leadership, and they lead them to do the job.  And
          5    for my five years at Millstone, I worked very hard to try to
          6    work with the people there to instill leadership.  Given I
          7    was just a, you know, just an employee, I was not in a
          8    position of leadership.  But I feel a leader is a person who
          9    can lead -- he can lead from any position if you do it
         10    right.
         11              I brought up issues similar to the ones that the
         12    CRC brings up over and over again, and I was continually met
         13    with one of three answers.  It was -- the issue was either
         14    trivialized, it was studied to death, or it was looked at so
         15    narrowly that they only treated the symptom rather than the
         16    real problem.
         17              We say we have an effective corrective action
         18    program.  I worked in the correction action department for a
         19    year in my assessment job, and we routinely had to question
         20    people on root-cause analysis, people who didn't know how to
         21    do it.
         22              I can see the urgency to get the plant started up. 
         23    I understand nuclear is a very viable energy source.  But
         24    unless you have the leadership to run the plant and to lead
         25    the people, it isn't going to work.
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          1              For 20 years Millstone was on a downhill slide.  I
          2    think people realize that now here.  In 20 years they
          3    created habits of the people that work there that cannot be
          4    eliminated in two years, period.  I don't care how many
          5    Little Harbors or anybody else comes in and tells you.
          6              What we've done is we've taught them how to say
          7    the words so that when they get interviewed they can say the
          8    words, they know, and they're scared to death about losing
          9    their jobs.  And so what -- this is not intentional on their
         10    part, but what they do is they answer the question with the
         11    key words and tricky phrases, but when they go out in the
         12    field to operate, they don't know how to do it the way it
         13    ought to be done, and management is not ready to supervise
         14    them.
         15              The management we have in our plant, if you ask,
         16    you would find out that probably a handful of them have ever
         17    really operated the plant.  Using the rules we have, you can
         18    be in management, you can be in high positions and never
         19    having operated one of those plants.  And I'm not talking
         20    about getting a license.  I respect people who get licenses,
         21    but it's like a driver's license.  You wouldn't give your
         22    daughter or your son a driver's test and then send them out
         23    to drive the car without some practical experience.  Well,
         24    that's what we're doing.  We did it for years, and that was
         25    somebody else's decision.
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          1              But the program I worked in for 26 years didn't do
          2    that.  And we don't have the safety record that's out in the
          3    real world.  The Navy is a very, very different environment. 
          4    I understand that.  But there are certain basic fundamentals
          5    that Admiral Rickover built into both of those programs. 
          6    And consistently during my time in Northeast Utilities the
          7    answer I would get when I asked people why they were doing
          8    things, they would say because the NRC says so.  And I hear
          9    that even today.  Throughout my job I would challenge for
         10    the basic fundamentals of why they were doing what they were
         11    doing, to understand it.
         12              Is my viewgraph up there?  Can you put up my
         13    viewgraph?  Oh, okay.  Good.  This is a little bit of ad
         14    libbing, and I'm not going to go very long.  But this
         15    graph -- you need to look at it while you're doing it.  Oh,
         16    you can see it I guess.  That graph captures very precisely
         17    the problem at Millstone.  It's been that way.  It took me
         18    four years to figure it out.  And I took that graph to Mr.
         19    Kenyon last July and gave it to him, and I didn't get much
         20    response.  I don't know why.  He never told me why.  I've
         21    given it to almost every senior management person at
         22    Millstone, and I have yet to see anybody do anything with
         23    it.
         24              Looking at the graph, I don't want to, you know,
         25    insult anybody's intelligence, but the more you know about
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          1    what you're doing, the more you understand what you're
          2    doing, the less people have to write down what they're
          3    telling you to do.
          4              When I first at Millstone five years ago, I read
          5    the procedures and I couldn't get through them, they're so
          6    complicated, they're so -- and I said why are they like
          7    this.  And so I started kind of to help fix them.  I
          8    couldn't fix them because the rules to write them are so bad
          9    that you can't fix them.  And I concluded after four years
         10    that people do not understand what they're doing to the
         11    degree that with the fundamentals that they can operate on a
         12    small number of documents so if they don't understand it to
         13    operate it, they certainly don't know how to write the
         14    procedures.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you have experience at any
         16    other nuclear stations?
         17              MR. MENDENHALL:  Well, I was --
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Commercial?
         19              MR. MENDENHALL:  No, ma'am.  Well, Haddam Neck and
         20    Millstone.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  My question is do you have any
         22    sense of the level of knowledge that you're speaking about
         23    relative to --
         24              MR. MENDENHALL:  Well, I can give examples.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  No, no, no.
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          1              Well, I'll take them in a minute.
          2              MR. MENDENHALL:  Okay.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But relative to any other
          4    commercial operating station.
          5              MR. MENDENHALL:  I guess -- no, I don't.  I won't
          6    try to talk around that one.  I do not know.  But I do know
          7    that when you ask a guy why he's doing what he's doing and
          8    he can't explain it and he's not willing to go break out the
          9    book and show you the book, he doesn't in most cases know
         10    where the book is that explains it, and what do I conclude? 
         11    And I have challenged people individually on level of
         12    knowledge frequently, and I do not get answers that make
         13    sense.
         14              That's one of the reasons why I left.  I left
         15    because I could not continue to try to go over the hurdles I
         16    was going over just to get people to understand the problems
         17    that we had.  And every time I bring one up, I get this
         18    trivialization, study it to death, or only look at the
         19    symptoms.  You miss the problem.  So if you go out and fix a
         20    symptom, and then the problem happens again, you know, what
         21    would you?  You are supposed to find out what the real
         22    problem is and go fix it.  We don't do that.  We don't do it
         23    very well.  I can't say we don't do it all, but we don't do
         24    it very well.
         25              The real reason why I got even involved with this,
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          1    when I left Northeast Utilities, I told myself I am not
          2    going back.  I don't want to get involved with it, I'll let
          3    them go.  Well, on the last day I was there, I discovered
          4    there was a problem and so I documented that problem in a
          5    CR.  And following the procedures, it took me all day to do. 
          6    I did it.  Got home about 2:00 a.m. that night, they
          7    probably fined me for being there too many hours.  But
          8    turned it in, got the guy to sign it, everything went
          9    through.  I find out a month later that that CR got
         10    cancelled, or basically signed off closed because they said
         11    there was no problem there.  Okay.
         12              First off, there's a rule in our process that says
         13    if you -- when you disposition a CR, you go back to the
         14    person that wrote it and you tell them why you didn't.  I
         15    purposely wrote on that CR, and I have a copy here if you
         16    want to see it, I purposely wrote on that CR my boss's name
         17    and said I am not going to be there, I knew I was leaving,
         18    everybody knew, you need to go to talk to Gordon Winters was
         19    his name.  Okay.
         20              Nobody ever went to him to talk to him about it. 
         21    They didn't even cover it with him, it just got signed off.
         22              So I had one of my friends that worked there pull
         23    the paper work out and send me a copy.  And, lo and behold,
         24    they said this is not a problem, you know, so we closed
         25    this.
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          1              Well, I went back -- that's the real reason why I
          2    even went to the NRC public meeting, was because I felt
          3    like, gee, you now, this is something that I can't let
          4    stand.  I don't want to create any new work for myself, but
          5    I at least want to finish the old work.  So I went to the
          6    meeting and that was one of the issues I brought up.
          7              Subsequently, NU has looked at that and they said,
          8    yeah, there is a problem.  But they have said that they
          9    can't meet the rules because -- they can't, it's too many,
         10    there are too many impediments in the way, it takes too
         11    long, costs too much, so they are going to try to get around
         12    them.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What did this CR concern?
         14              MR. MENDENHALL:  The CR was measuring and test
         15    equipment.  Non-conformance reports.  Your office, your
         16    staff has questioned me extensively on it.  In fact, I
         17    worked with one of your staff during the time when the issue
         18    first came up.  The issue has been on the table for six
         19    months, it's eight months now.  And when I first brought it
         20    up, it got shuffled off to the side.  And one of your
         21    fellows on our staff brought it up and said, What happened
         22    to this?  He asked us, and I was the guy responsible, and I
         23    went and looked.  I first thought it was taken care of. 
         24    Then I looked at saw it wasn't and, lo and behold, it got
         25    shuffled away.  So we resurfaced it October last year.
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          1              In between last October of last year and December,
          2    the people responsible for that wrote a procedure change. 
          3    You know, everything is okay, but the procedure change
          4    didn't change the -- didn't change the issue, fix the issue. 
          5    So when I left, I --
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Did you view it as safety
          7    significant?  Did you view this --
          8              MR. MENDENHALL:  I viewed it not directly safety
          9    significant, but it was a loophole in one of our processes
         10    that could allow non-conforming -- or not non-conforming --
         11    conditions adverse to quality to exist in the plant without
         12    being looked at.
         13              I can explain all the details.  I have explained
         14    it to your staff.  They don't seem to argue with me that it
         15    is a valid issue.  In fact, they claim they still had it on
         16    their list of things to follow.  But if I hadn't written a
         17    CR on it, they would be the only ones that are following it.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         19              MR. MENDENHALL:  But my point is that that is not
         20    the only one.  I could go on ad infinitum, and I know you
         21    don't want me to do that.
         22              I will bring up one more thing, design control.  I
         23    got a copy of this.  This is an assessment that was done by
         24    Nuclear Oversight of the design control system in Unit 3, or
         25    the -- yeah, design control.  I read it on the way down
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          1    here.  I didn't get it till last night, so I apologize for
          2    not having not too much detail.  But I read it, and I pulled
          3    out some numbers out of it.  Basically, there are three Mode
          4    2 issues in here.  They say that.  There are zero Mode 4
          5    issues.  I wonder why.  There are zero Mode 3 issues.  I
          6    wonder why.
          7              There are problems with 50 percent of the
          8    self-assessments that have direct impact on design control
          9    reported in this audit.  There are 25 percent of the 5059
         10    safety screenings have problems.  70 percent of the minor
         11    modification package are screened for safety
         12    inappropriately.  There's 41 percent of the CRs that cover
         13    -- 41 percent of the CRs have safety valve problems, they
         14    haven't been done on these CRs, to make sure that they are
         15    really not safety issues.  Okay.
         16              Now, the bottom line is that this thing -- the
         17    bottom line of this team was the team concluded that
         18    although problems were found, the design process is
         19    functional.  Okay.  And I don't know what functional means. 
         20    I was an auditor, okay.  I was a self-assessor.  I don't
         21    know what that means.
         22              I looked through -- they have to write a plan
         23    which they are going to follow.  I looked through the plan,
         24    they didn't even finish following their plan, and it doesn't
         25    say what functional means in their plan.  To me, that's --
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          1    you know, but that's -- that is the oversight group doing an
          2    audit.  There's a lot of good issues in here, but not
          3    characterizing it properly, sending it to management.
          4              On one hand it gets in their desk one week, and
          5    the same week they are standing and saying we got no
          6    problems.  I don't think that's -- I think the issue is
          7    leadership.  I don't think they have established what they
          8    need in leadership to fix the problems.  Anybody can fix
          9    problems if you recognize them, acknowledge them and get on
         10    and do it.  But they don't have it.  So that's --
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
         12              Commissioner Diaz.
         13              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes.  You know, listening to
         14    you, you said you had been five years working at the plant.
         15              MR. MENDENHALL:  Yes, sir.
         16              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes.  Let me, you know,
         17    because you are an experienced officer.  You obviously have,
         18    you know, manager look at large organizations.  And Chairman
         19    Jackson just asked you a pointed question on the safety. 
         20    During your time, even during the operations, has there been
         21    a point in which you, as an experienced person, have seen,
         22    okay, or have experienced, have observed, or have
         23    information in which the adequacy of the protection or
         24    health and safety has been compromised?  I am not looking at
         25    the details of the valve.  I am not looking at the other
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          1    things.  Those are all important things, and I am not taking
          2    the -- but I want you to get above that.
          3              MR. MENDENHALL:  I haven't seen any that -- I have
          4    not seen any that haven't been reported and dealt with.  The
          5    problem, sir, is -- have you ever operated one of these
          6    plants?  I mean, you know, as an operator.
          7              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes, sir.
          8              MR. MENDENHALL:  Okay.  Then we are talking the
          9    same language.  I'm sorry, I don't know your bio.  The
         10    problem is that when you have safety nets the way we have
         11    them, there are interlocking and intermeshing.  All the
         12    systems are designed to work together.  If you have a
         13    deficiency in one system, it affects the operation -- it may
         14    affect the operation of another system.
         15              When you have hundreds of deficiencies that
         16    haven't been analyzed properly, you are leaving yourself
         17    open.  Who can predict where the fault is going to be?  Who
         18    knows?  You don't know where it is going to happen and what
         19    -- and I am not trying to be, you know, save the world for
         20    humanity, but there is some kind of evaluation that has to
         21    be done on these issues to make sure.  And if we have a
         22    final safety analysis report that is not correct, and hasn't
         23    been maintained for two years, part of what was in this
         24    audit report says we didn't have knowledge and understanding
         25    of the final safety analysis report.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Thank you.
          2              MR. MENDENHALL:  I am -- no direct, but they are
          3    all indirect, and they are all --
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.  I am going to let
          5    -- does anyone from Northeast Utilities care to speak to
          6    this issue?
          7              VOICE:  Why should they?
          8              MR. MENDENHALL:  Why shouldn't they?  I am ready
          9    to answer their questions any time.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  We are gong to get into an
         11    audience/presenter debate.
         12              Thank you very much.  Thank you.
         13              MR. MENDENHALL:  Thank you very much.  I
         14    appreciate it.
         15              [Applause.]
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I now call forward Mr. David
         17    Lochbaum from the Union of Concerned Scientists.  Good
         18    afternoon.
         19              MR. LOCHBAUM:  Good afternoon.
         20              Slide 2, please.
         21              I came here today to talk about the four items
         22    that were on the scope for today's meeting, employee
         23    concerns, safety conscious work environment, deferred items
         24    management, and management oversight and quality assurance.
         25              Slide 3, please.
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          1              UCS has no reason to doubt Little Harbor's
          2    conclusion that the improvements made in the employee
          3    concerns program support restart.  The exception we want to
          4    note is the 2.206 petition that was filed by Citizens
          5    Awareness Network and the Nuclear Information and Resource
          6    Service on the suppression of the Focus '98 memo.  We think
          7    that petition should be resolved prior to restart.
          8              That would do two things.  That would put that
          9    issue to bed and it would also give some credence to the
         10    only vehicle the public has for interacting with the
         11    Commission, and that's the 2.206.  We think that petition
         12    needs to be closed prior to restart.
         13              We feel that right now Little Harbor is serving as
         14    the training wheels for the employee concerns program at
         15    Millstone.  It is essentially propping up, it could be
         16    propping up the employee concerns bicycle.  If Little Harbor
         17    is correct, and we believe they are right, then those
         18    training wheels could be taken off at this point.  However,
         19    the start-up of Unit 3 will stress the organization, or
         20    could conceivably the employee concerns program.  So we
         21    think it is prudent to keep Little Harbor around until
         22    sometime after restart.  I don't have a metric on when that
         23    point would go away, but we think it is prudent to keep
         24    Little Harbor around until after restart of Unit 3.
         25              Slide 4.  Basically, the same thing with safety
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          1    conscious work environment.  We have no reason to doubt
          2    Little Harbor's conclusion that improvements to date at
          3    Millstone Unit 3 support restart.  At this moment it doesn't
          4    appear that any employee with a safety concern will refrain
          5    from raising it either to line management, to the employee
          6    concerns program, to NRC, to the media, or to local
          7    citizens.  Our only concern would be there is some
          8    hesitation with not going to line management employee
          9    concerns, too many of these seem to be going outside.  But
         10    at least they are being raised.  There doesn't seem to be an
         11    unspoken thought at Millstone these days.
         12              Slide 5, please.  And there's an unfortunate typo
         13    in Slide 5 that I need to point out.  The second bullet,
         14    "improperly" really should be "properly".  It changes the
         15    meaning somewhat.
         16              We looked at the process by which Northeast
         17    Utilities went through and decided which items need to be
         18    done before restart and afterwards, and it is consistent
         19    with what other problem plants have done.  We did some look
         20    at the actual deferred items, although not to the same
         21    extent as we looked at corrective actions, and it appeared
         22    that they were properly screened.  We didn't see any
         23    evidence that things should have been done prior to restart.
         24              NU has backed up the deferred items with
         25    commitment to close them off in a timely manner.  We think
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          1    that's a good idea.  That was a concern, that they would
          2    defer and then other emerging issues would come up and those
          3    things would never get closed out.  But those commitments
          4    seem to be sound and take care of that issue.
          5              Our one concern in that area is that as Unit 2
          6    then restarts, and if there is any new emerging issues on
          7    Unit 3, those would be competing attention sources for the
          8    closeout effort on the deferred items.
          9              Millstone currently has, in our opinion, a weak
         10    corrective action program, and it would probably only get
         11    worse if you stress it any.
         12              Slide 6.  On management oversight and quality
         13    assurance.  We look at the RSS orifice modification as
         14    providing ample reason to suspect the effectiveness of
         15    management oversight.
         16              The second bullet there, in our opinion, we
         17    thought the reason for the RSS mod problems were NU placed
         18    schedule demands ahead of safety.  I learned this morning
         19    that wasn't true, NU did the best it could, it just wasn't
         20    good enough.
         21              But we have looked at other plants like Grand Gulf
         22    during its start-up, and Indian Point 3 during its -- when
         23    it tried to get off the watchlist and it was essentially off
         24    the watchlist.  In both of those cases, and in others, the
         25    NRC required either around the clock full-time presence or a
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          1    mentor to back up or provide confidence that was there due
          2    to lack in confidence in the licensee.  We think for
          3    Millstone Unit 3 that would be a good idea to make sure that
          4    either schedule ahead of safety, or just mistakes, or as an
          5    additional safety net.  There is no guarantee, but there's
          6    an additional safety net.  We think that would be a good
          7    idea, there is a precedent for it.
          8              On Slide 7, which is the summaries, employee
          9    concerns program and safety conscious work environment, we
         10    agree with Little Harbor, we have no reason to doubt Little
         11    Harbor that things are ready to support restart.  We feel
         12    that Little Harbor should stay around for a while to monitor
         13    until after restart just for insurance, and to make sure
         14    there is no stress from that activity.
         15              We think the deferred items at this moment appear
         16    appropriate for restart, even given the volume is a little
         17    larger than other restart plants.  But this process is sound
         18    and the volume is just a product of Millstone.
         19              Management oversight and quality assurance, we
         20    think is less certain for restart and to compensate for
         21    that, we are recommending around the clock NRC or some
         22    mentor presence that would guard against schedule over
         23    safety mistakes or any other -- provide an additional safety
         24    net for any other kind of mistakes that are made.  With
         25    that, that's the only comments.
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          1              Most of the comments we have on Millstone are on
          2    the other issues, and we would like to come back and address
          3    those at a future date.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you a couple of
          5    questions.  You talk about stress and it may only get worse
          6    as resources shift to Unit 2, if Unit 3 started up.  Do you
          7    believe that the quarterly progress reports to the NRC will
          8    provide for adequate verification of the licensee's
          9    commitments?  I mean you are basically seeming to suggest
         10    that the actual independent oversight, do you mean in terms
         11    of having an independent contractor continue to be involved
         12    for some period after restart?  Is that what you are
         13    recommending?
         14              MR. LOCHBAUM:  The reason for the independent
         15    oversight was the quarterly closeout schedule by itself
         16    would be good if you had a good corrective action program,
         17    because then you could throw resources at it and close them
         18    out.
         19              When you have a suspect corrective action rate,
         20    the items may be closed, but you may not be fixing anything. 
         21    So you can meet your schedule paper-wise but not be doing
         22    anything quality-wise.  So that's why the closeout schedule,
         23    without some assurance that the things are actually resolved
         24    correctly, is not enough.  That's why we thought the
         25    independent contractor or some oversight in addition to the
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          1    work-off curve would be a strong confidence factor.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  NRC oversight?
          3              MR. LOCHBAUM:  I guess, in our opinion, if it was
          4    Region 1 providing that oversight, we would have that
          5    confidence.  We have less confidence in Special Projects
          6    office.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Could you give me one or
          8    two examples of what you feel demonstrate a weak corrective
          9    action program?
         10              MR. LOCHBAUM:  What we looked at to reach that
         11    determination was NU's response to the corrective action --
         12    or the DRs that were identified by Sergeant and Lundy.  we
         13    went to Sergeant and Lundy's web site, pulled off several
         14    dozen items that had been responded to by Northeast
         15    Utilities and then look at what Sergeant and Lundy's
         16    evaluation of that response was.  So it wasn't our
         17    determination of what NU proposed, it was what Sergeant and
         18    Lundy thought of what NU proposed.
         19              Our numbers were about 20 percent of those
         20    category were being returned to Northeast Utilities for more
         21    work.  And I have heard -- over the last few months and
         22    weeks, I have heard talk about the communications protocol
         23    and not understanding the question and things like that.  We
         24    saw some of those.  And we recognize that that is another
         25    Millstone unique situation that isn't there at others.  But
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          1    that's not the only reason for 20 percent.  That may knock
          2    it down to 15, that doesn't knock it to zero.  And that's
          3    too high.
          4              What concerns us most about that is those are the
          5    most visible corrective actions that probably anyone in the
          6    plant is ever going to work on, and if you can't get those
          7    right, the chances of getting the deferred items right is
          8    less, in our opinion.  So that's what led us to the
          9    conclusion the corrective action was a problem and why we
         10    think that needs to be addressed.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Why is that you feel
         12    regional oversight is better than the Special Project
         13    oversight?
         14              MR. LOCHBAUM:  We draw that conclusion on going to
         15    some of the meetings.  We regional oversight asked a lot of
         16    probing questions similar to the way you ask questions about
         17    the licensee and others.  The first answer, the nice and
         18    easy answer isn't sufficient.  The regional folks generally
         19    follow it up with probing questions and make you generally
         20    explain why you feel something is adequate or that your
         21    schedule is going to be met.
         22              From looking at the Special Projects tapes of
         23    public meetings and reading some of the transcripts, most of
         24    the questions are on schedule and cost, and those -- those
         25    don't give us the same comfort level as either Region 1 or
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          1    Region 3, or any of the other regions, or NRR for that
          2    matter.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  I understand.
          4              Any questions?  Commissioner.
          5              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Can I ask, how satisfied
          6    were you with the explanation on the RSS problem this
          7    morning?  Was the first time you had heard that level of
          8    detail about --
          9              MR. LOCHBAUM:  I've heard that, or variations of
         10    that before.
         11              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Okay.
         12              MR. LOCHBAUM:  The thing that wasn't mentioned is
         13    that the reason that RSS mod was made was to fix a problem
         14    with pump vortexing.  And when you simply swap problems, one
         15    had been a problem for 15 -- or 10 years, and you swap that
         16    for a problem that breaks the lines in a few minutes.  You
         17    know, whether Oversight was involved or not involved, it
         18    simply is not supposed to happen if you do your 5059s
         19    correctly, and that was not a 5059 that was even close.  So
         20    there was a serous problem with that mod, and whether it was
         21    Oversight's fault, or however you draw the line, NU was
         22    ultimately responsible and they blew that one fairly
         23    largely.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you have a feeling as to
         25    whether you think it is indicative of other problems, you
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          1    know, deeper problems, or do you think that is an isolated
          2    incident?
          3              MR. LOCHBAUM:  We think it is an isolated
          4    incident.  But an isolated incident right prior to start-up
          5    in a high profile fishbowl doesn't bode very well once you
          6    don't have this great attention.  You know, that's the
          7    stress we are talking about after restart.  When a plant is
          8    on-line and something comes up on backshift, are you going
          9    to RSS mod it, or are you going to do it correctly?  Those
         10    are the issues we are worried about.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Commissioner.
         12              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes.  Going back to the weak
         13    corrective action program, and the basis on the 20 percent,
         14    and I think the percentage, you know, is really not the
         15    issue.
         16              MR. LOCHBAUM:  Right.
         17              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Because they might vary in
         18    importance and according to risk and so forth.  Do you have
         19    something that, you know, for the Commission, you can tell
         20    us, what is the base in which you say is weak?  I mean it's
         21    -- have you looked at similar processes?
         22              MR. LOCHBAUM:  Well, actually, I was responsible
         23    for closeout items at Indian Point 3, Fitzpatrick and
         24    Brown's Ferry 2 in the restart projects in the '80s.
         25              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Right.
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          1              MR. LOCHBAUM:  The other two are more recent.  And
          2    also Salem prior to joining UCS, I was on the Salem 2
          3    restart effort.  And those processes were similar.  You had
          4    a large number of items that had to be closed out before the
          5    plant could restart.  Similar issues.  I mean there are
          6    variations, but they are similar.
          7              I was responsible both for closing out items and
          8    also for reviewing items proposed, closure proposed by
          9    somebody else.  In all those efforts, I didn't see the
         10    volume of problems that were evident at the DRs for Sergeant
         11    and Lundy.
         12              And it also goes back to the communications
         13    protocol.  On those efforts you have a large volume of
         14    things to do in a short order.  You don't sit down with
         15    every initiator of those items and find out exactly what the
         16    guy meant when he wrote the piece of paper.  You have a
         17    college education, you have had some training, you read it,
         18    and you go out and close it.  So that -- I think that
         19    communications protocol is being blown all out of
         20    proportion.
         21              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Okay.  But, you know, let me
         22    focus on the volume issue.  The volume might be because we
         23    have a microscope that is turned to a higher power, which
         24    means that this issue or in this case, it was taken a step
         25    farther than normally.  How about the quality?  You know, if
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          1    we drop the volume, how about the quality?  From your
          2    experience, because you reviewed it.
          3              MR. LOCHBAUM:  Right.  Well, I think the volume
          4    issue, the person who works on an individual response is
          5    working on that individual response.  He doesn't know if
          6    there's 10,000 others or not.  If that person in the review
          7    chain, it's usually not just one person, there's a technical
          8    review and so on, if that chain can't get it right, then
          9    there is something wrong with that review process, that
         10    whole corrective action process.
         11              I have worked on projects where the threshold was
         12    way too low.  At Salem, if you parked illegally, that
         13    entered the CR process, because security put a wheel lock
         14    your car and that entered the process the same as the
         15    reactor had been held on with velcro.  It was the same
         16    process.  So we closed out an awful lot of things that
         17    should never have been in there.
         18              So I have seen the volumes before and I have seen
         19    other people -- in fact, I haven't seen anybody not handle
         20    corrective actions like Millstone is doing now and that is
         21    what troubled us.
         22              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  And how is that?
         23              MR. LOCHBAUM:  Well, given the fishbowl that they
         24    are under right now, and the seeming pressure to get the
         25    unit back on-line, if they can't do corrective actions any
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          1    better than about 15 to 20 percent, whatever the numbers
          2    turn out to be, that doesn't suggest to us that after the
          3    Special Projects office leaves and all these independent
          4    contractors, and all these other special precautions are
          5    gone, that their corrective action rate will be any better
          6    when normal, quote, "normal issues" come up after restart.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I'm sorry.
          8              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  No, go ahead.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Net.  Net.  Are you saying that
         10    the corrective action program is weak to the point that they
         11    should not restart at this point?  Or are you suggesting
         12    that their corrective action program has weaknesses and if
         13    they are allowed to restart, they need to be watched very
         14    closely?  Those are separate questions.
         15              MR. LOCHBAUM:  Right.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  They are different.
         17              MR. LOCHBAUM:  It's hard for us to say that the
         18    corrective action program is flawed to the part that it
         19    shouldn't allow restart.  We have strong concerns and we
         20    were going to address that in the next issue.  That gets
         21    back to -- if that corrective action process is flawed, it
         22    is going to manifest itself somewhere down the line.  If we
         23    confidence in the NRC or something to step in and draw the
         24    line to make sure the plant doesn't operate unsafely, then
         25    they could start up with an unsafe -- or a deficient
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          1    corrective action program and somewhere down the road they
          2    are going to come back down.  And I guess we are going to
          3    address that a little bit later.
          4              Right now what we see is the corrective action
          5    program isn't -- is only costing them only, because things
          6    are being iterated back and forth between Sergeant and Lundy
          7    and Northeast Utilities, and eventually the right answer is
          8    being obtained and the thing is being closed properly.  We
          9    think Sergeant and Lundy is gong a very good job of
         10    maintaining high standards and making sure that it is done
         11    right.  So we think the corrective action program is weak
         12    but Sergeant and Lundy has the patience to stick it through
         13    to the end.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So it is not unlike what was
         15    said in the employee concerns area.  You don't know that
         16    they can iterate alone?  Is that what you are telling me? 
         17    Iterate to solutions.
         18              MR. LOCHBAUM:  Well, we can they can.  Right now
         19    Sergeant and Lundy is forcing the iteration.  Once Sergeant
         20    and Lundy leaves --
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  That's what I am saying. 
         22    Iterate alone.
         23              MR. LOCHBAUM:  That's correct.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         25              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  This is the subject of
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          1    the next Commission meeting, but is the same analogy where
          2    we are talking about keeping Little Harbor there for six
          3    months at least, or so, after restart, would Sergeant and
          4    Lundy being there watching the program be one of the
          5    safeguards that you may be coming back to us on in a week or
          6    two?
          7              MR. LOCHBAUM:  I think it's a safe bet, yes.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You are getting your heads up.
          9              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Early notice.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Anything else?  Thank you very
         11    much?
         12              MR. LOCHBAUM:  Thank you.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I would like to call forward a
         14    group of Millstone employees, Mr. Harry Blank, Mr. Dave
         15    Collins, Mr. Gary Verdone and Mr. Mike Meehan, who I
         16    understand are rehired employees.
         17              MR. BLANK:  Yes, we are.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Thank you.  Good
         19    afternoon.
         20              MR. BLANK:  Good afternoon, Chairman.  Good
         21    afternoon, Commissioners.  Thank you for having the time to
         22    see us today.
         23              My name is Harry Blank and with me is Dave
         24    Collins, Gary Verdone and Mike Meehan.  We are here as
         25    employees of Northeast Nuclear Energy.  We are not your
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          1    average employees though.  We were part of the 104 employees
          2    laid off in January 1996.  Each of us had safety concerns
          3    that were addressed by the management at that time by
          4    labeling us as whistle-blowers or non-team-players and
          5    terminating us as soon as was possible.  They didn't want to
          6    hear what we had to say, regardless.
          7              We, individually and collectively, have been with
          8    the company for over 60 years, through good times and bad,
          9    and into the recent problems in the '90s.  Our experience
         10    included the many changes in management and leadership that
         11    occurred as NU attempted to deal with the problem of the
         12    '90s.
         13              When asked about the mistreatment of employees and
         14    whether the company was concerned with employee loyalty, the
         15    former leadership indicated to us, if you want loyalty, get
         16    a dog.  When it came to maintaining the plant, the attitude
         17    was if it is not necessary to do it, then it is necessary
         18    not to do it.  That was the decline of Millstone.  The
         19    attitudes brought them to where they were in March '96 when
         20    the NRC placed them on the watchlist.
         21              Attitude comes from the top.  There have been
         22    numerous management changes at Millstone in the last two
         23    years.  The management there now, in the form of Bruce
         24    Kenyon, has the attitude we will do it right.  We believe
         25    him, and we had more reason than most not to.  It takes a
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          1    man with a great amount of integrity and courage to admit a
          2    wrong and to extend a hand and mend fences.  Bruce Kenyon is
          3    that sort of a man.
          4              During the time we were out of Millstone, we were
          5    not their best friends, to put it mildly.  We talked
          6    sometimes from totally opposite corners of an arena.  Bruce
          7    extended his hand first, we accepted and haven't regretted
          8    it.
          9              The new environment at Millstone is a far cry from
         10    the old one that we were removed from.  Questioning
         11    attitudes are encouraged, no reprisals are sought.  The old
         12    regime is dead.  Problems are no longer overlooked, the
         13    answers are sought.  Solutions determined and then
         14    implemented, regardless of the cost, the time, or whose
         15    fault it may have been in the past.
         16              We have been rehired with no hint of retaliation. 
         17    We have been welcomed back by everyone.  NU's trust of us
         18    has extended to the point of placing one of our group in the
         19    employee concerns program.  We have not taken that display
         20    of confidence lightly.
         21              Others today will try to influence you that
         22    Millstone Power Station should remain closed down, as long
         23    as possible or maybe forever.  That meant that the
         24    management is not different from the old regime.  Employees
         25    still feel the chilling effect about reporting problems. 
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          1    They are wrong.  We are back as full-time employees, now
          2    contributing and committing to the effort to get Millstone
          3    Power Station back to its former position as a leader. 
          4    There are people on the outside throwing stones as best they
          5    can.  They can theorize and guess as to what has happened in
          6    the new Millstone environment, but we are in it, we can see
          7    it, and we can feel it.
          8              There is new attitude at Millstone, it is the
          9    result of Bruce Kenyon's leadership.  The attitude is we
         10    will do the right thing and we will do whatever it takes to
         11    get it done right.  The units will not start until you give
         12    it their blessing and will not also start more so than Bruce
         13    Kenyon feels they are safe to start.  People follow a good
         14    leader.  Mr. Kenyon has established a new leadership with
         15    new guiding principles, and he has overcome the huge hurdle
         16    of previous management's reputation.
         17              The NRC, the DPUC, the CRC have all done what they
         18    were chartered to do.  They safeguarded and they created
         19    change when there was a need for it.  The management has
         20    changed, attitudes have changed, and ethics have all
         21    changed.  And Millstone is not what it was in January 1996. 
         22    It is time now to move forward and look at the positive.
         23              We ask the NRC to give Northeast Utilities the
         24    opportunity to show through actions, not talk, that they
         25    have indeed changed.  Two years ago none of us present here
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          1    as rehired employees would have asked that.  It was rare in
          2    Connecticut for whistle-blowers to be given their jobs back. 
          3    Bruce Kenyon had the guts to do that.  And by doing that, he
          4    eliminated a lot of the chilling effect that used to exist.
          5              Two years ago NU felt that having the loyalty and
          6    commitment of employees was meaningless.  They were wrong. 
          7    Kenyon and his management team, through their leadership,
          8    have instilled an attitude of caring and respect for the
          9    individual, and for doing things right.  They have now
         10    earned our trust, our respect and our commitment.  We know
         11    the difference between the former management and the new
         12    management, and they are like day and night.
         13              Actions speak louder than words.  NU's actions in
         14    the past have demonstrated a commitment to the employee and
         15    to nuclear safety work environment concerns that should
         16    hopefully restore both the community's and the NRC's trust. 
         17    We ask the NRC to listen to us.  We know, we were, and we
         18    still are in the middle of it.  Thank you.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
         20              Commissioner?
         21              MR. BLANK:  No questions.  Any questions?
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
         23              MR. BLANK:  Thank you.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I would like to call forward a
         25    second group of Millstone employees, Mr. Joseph Amarello,
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          1    Jerilyn DuFreen, Richard DiBernardo and Donna Harrington
          2    Burns.
          3              MR. AMARELLO:  Good afternoon, Chairman Jackson
          4    and fellow NRC Commissioners.  We appreciate the opportunity
          5    to speak to you today.  My name is Joe Amarello, and I am
          6    here with my co-workers Rich DeBernardo, Gerry Duefrene, and
          7    Donna Harrington-Burns.
          8              We are members of an ad hoc group of employees who
          9    came together back in February for the purpose of focusing
         10    on all the positive activities that are happening in
         11    Millstone station.
         12              We want everyone to know that there are great
         13    things happening at Millstone station; great things in the
         14    areas of leadership and employee attitudes.
         15              The four of us took the day off from work today
         16    and drove down here last night to attend this meeting
         17    because we believe there is not a more important place for
         18    us to be today.
         19              This meeting is about the restart of Millstone
         20    Unit 3, and one of the major focus points is the
         21    safety-conscious work environment.  A safety-conscious work
         22    environment is all about people, their attitudes,
         23    perceptions, and beliefs.  We would like to tell you a
         24    little bit about these attitudes, perceptions, and beliefs
         25    of some workers at Millstone station.
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          1              Our ad hoc group has initiated some significant
          2    activities that we feel demonstrate the presence of a
          3    healthy safety-conscious work environment at Millstone
          4    station.  I want to talk about a couple of these.
          5              First, our ad hoc group developed this statement
          6    which, if you will please put it up on the overhead.  This
          7    statement stresses our belief in the safety and our
          8    confidence in Millstone station's management to address our
          9    safety concerns.  This statement was signed by 1553 workers
         10    in less than 36 hours.
         11              Second, our ad hoc group initiated a newspaper ad
         12    campaign and raised $4125 to place a full-page ad in the
         13    local newspaper.  I brought a copy today and I'll give it to
         14    the Secretary.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         16              MR. AMARELLO:  The significance of this effort was
         17    the widespread involvement and enthusiasm that the campaign
         18    generated.  This money was raised mostly in $1 and $5
         19    increments collected in the work spaces, collected in a
         20    glass jar outside the cafeteria at lunch.  People were
         21    excited.  They saw the advertisement that we had posted,
         22    they read the words, they wanted this message of our belief
         23    in safety and trust in our management to get out to the
         24    local community.
         25              These two activities were initiated by our ad hoc
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          1    group, but they were made successful by the participation of
          2    thousands of workers at Millstone station.  So what is our
          3    message to you today?  It is that a safety-conscious work
          4    environment is alive and well at Millstone station, and more
          5    importantly, we believe it is here to stay.  Each of our
          6    co-workers would like to say a few words.
          7              Donna.
          8              MS. HARRINGTON-BURNS:  Good afternoon.  My name is
          9    Donna Harrington-Burns, and I have worked for Northeast
         10    Utilities for over 10 years.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Can you talk a little more into
         12    the microphone.  Thank you.
         13              MS. HARRINGTON-BURNS:  Sure.  A number of years
         14    ago I would have found it very difficult to sit here at this
         15    table and talk to you about some positive aspect about the
         16    safety-conscious work environment because, frankly, we
         17    didn't have one.  At that time I worked as an instructor. 
         18    It was my job to teach the managing for nuclear safety
         19    course.  I think you have heard about that before, that it
         20    is and it continues to be training for supervisors on how to
         21    handle safety concerns.  It is an excellent training program
         22    and emphasizes supervisory responsibility to listen to
         23    workers, to respect and value differing opinions, and to act
         24    as an agent for employees as they bring forward their
         25    concerns.
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          1              In 1994 and 1995, when we were teaching this
          2    course, it was a very difficult class to teach.  There was
          3    very little evidence that NU management truly embraced these
          4    principles, and although we appealed to each supervisor's
          5    sense of personal responsibility, it was very difficult to
          6    convince employees that they needed to do the hard work
          7    necessary to change their own behaviors and attitudes when
          8    they didn't see upper management committed to the same.
          9              I no longer teach, but I have seen some dramatic
         10    changes in the attitudes and behaviors of our management,
         11    and I think it is more than just attitudes and behaviors. 
         12    It's really about a change of heart, and there are any
         13    number of KPIs that you can measure, but you can't really
         14    get a feel for how people feel.
         15              The change that we see in our management has
         16    allowed us to also change as a group of employees.  I think
         17    that we are more respectful, we are a more respectful work
         18    force because we are treated with respect, we are more open
         19    to ideas because our ideas are listened to.  That has made a
         20    difference.
         21              I consider myself an employee of conscience, and I
         22    will not misrepresent the fact that we still have things
         23    that we need to do.  This is not perfect.  But I really do
         24    believe that as a company this management acts with good
         25    will; that we have now programs and processes in place that
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          1    allow us to go forward; and that together we can partner and
          2    create the kind of work environment that we need to have.
          3              Thank you.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
          5              MS. DUEFRENE:  Hi.  My name is Gerry Duefrene and
          6    I am an employee of Northeast Utilities as well.  I have
          7    also lived at East Lyme, which is a neighboring community of
          8    Waterford, for over 20 years.
          9              I speak for myself when I say that I would never
         10    work in a place that I felt was unsafe and one that could be
         11    detrimental to my health, the health of my family, friends,
         12    and the community.
         13              I also would not work in a place that I was
         14    uncomfortable in voicing a concern.  If I had any questions
         15    on things that happened at Millstone, I have gone to my
         16    supervisor with questions.  I have been treated with respect
         17    and even taken out into the plant to see what was going on
         18    for myself.  I am a secretary there, I am not a technician,
         19    I am not an engineer, but I want to know how it works, and I
         20    have a boss -- I've had bosses that take me out there and
         21    explain things to me.  I still couldn't recite it to you
         22    word for word, but I understand a lot better because of
         23    their patience with me and their taking the time to educate
         24    me on how it works.
         25              In my job, I work with several levels of workers
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          1    from directors to mechanics, electricians and technicians. 
          2    I have observed meetings where they work together for
          3    solutions to issues that have come up.  To me, this is a
          4    team working together, and I have complete faith in my
          5    co-workers and our management to safely get us ready for
          6    restart.  I am proud to be an employee of Northeast
          7    Utilities, and anyone who knows me knows that I speak for
          8    myself and no one can tell me what to say or what to
          9    believe.  I have my own mind and strong opinions.
         10              I would like to thank you for your time.  It means
         11    a lot to us to have been able to come down and express
         12    ourselves, and we appreciate it.  Thank you.
         13              MR. DeBERNARDO:  Good afternoon.  My name is Rich
         14    DeBernardo, and I have worked at Northeast Utilities for
         15    five and a half years.  I started at Connecticut Yankee and
         16    transferred to Millstone 14 months ago where I currently
         17    work as an electrical systems engineer for Unit 3.
         18              Over the last 14 months at Millstone, I have seen
         19    numerous changes in management.  One of those changes in
         20    management is management's commitment to making the right
         21    decision, given the right information.
         22              I had the opportunity to present the management
         23    team a modification to enhance the reliability of the four
         24    120 volt vital AC inverters at Unit 3.  This modification
         25    was only a system enhancement.  It was not an NRC commitment
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          1    or required for restart.  After a number of meetings with
          2    the management team, the management team concluded that this
          3    modification would be implemented prior to restart.
          4              This team effort, to me, was one of the many
          5    examples of management's commitment to doing the right
          6    thing.  We greatly appreciate this opportunity to share our
          7    experiences with you.
          8              MR. AMARELLO:  We'd like to just at this point
          9    welcome any questions that you might have for any of us in
         10    the group.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.  Thank you very
         12    much.
         13              I would like to call forward Mr. Donald W. Del
         14    Core, Senior.
         15              MR. DEL CORE:  Good afternoon, Commissioners.
         16              I certainly would like to thank you for the
         17    opportunity to speak here today.  And I would also like to
         18    comment that I think it needed to be done at an earlier,
         19    many earlier sessions.
         20              I think the input from the public is very, very
         21    important, and I think that unfortunately we have only had a
         22    very few minutes to provide you with some input.
         23              So possibly if you have other plants in the future
         24    that happen to go on a watch list or happen to be shut down
         25    and you continue your quarterly updates, I would hope that
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          1    you would include public comment on each and every one of
          2    those.
          3              First of all, let me give you a little bit of
          4    background about myself.  I was a former Navy nuke and as
          5    such I was a senior reactor operator on a couple of
          6    submarines and engineering watch supervisor.  I was a Navy
          7    instructor for a couple years, and I have also been in the
          8    civilian world.  I worked for Stone & Webster in security
          9    engineering, working on nuclear security backfit projects. 
         10    I worked for Nuclear Engineering Services out of Danbury,
         11    and in that capacity I worked at Duane Arnold Energy Center
         12    as a contractor in the QC department involving welding
         13    changes and welding type repairs to the reactor water
         14    clean-up at a boiling water reactor.  And also I was
         15    involved in the replacement of target rod valves and so
         16    forth at the quality control end of it.
         17              Additionally, I worked at Shoreham Nuclear Plant
         18    as training coordinator, setting up their cold license plant
         19    training program and teaching a number of courses there.  So
         20    to give you a little bit of background about what I was
         21    doing, I also worked at Millstone as an electrician for
         22    approximately a year and then as an instrument technician
         23    and specialist for about 12 years at Unit 2.
         24              One of the comments I think that's important to
         25    identify here is we have had an awful lot of discussion
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          1    about the safety-conscious work environment and the employee
          2    concerns program, and I think it is interesting to point out
          3    that, you know, not everybody, but I think for the most part
          4    what I have heard here is everybody is trying to tell you
          5    that they think Little Harbor needs to stay on.
          6              If Little Harbor needs to stay on, they are not
          7    ready to run, folks.  They are not ready to run by
          8    themselves.  So if there is any indication -- and that's
          9    what I seem to have gotten here is everybody feels they need
         10    to have Little Harbor there as sort of this insurance
         11    policy.  Maybe somebody wants them here for three months;
         12    somebody wants them here for six months; somebody wants them
         13    here for -- to be sure that everything is status quo before
         14    they walk off.  If that's what we need, then don't let NU
         15    start up.
         16              I am not against them starting, I am against them
         17    starting so that they can safely and adequately run the
         18    plant.  We are talking about a place for 10 years that
         19    hasn't had what I would consider a safety-conscious work
         20    environment or an atmosphere that is conducive to getting
         21    employees to come forward with concerns.
         22              I had the Chairman of the NRC come to me in 1986,
         23    Lando Zech, talked to me in the Unit 2 control room and
         24    asked me what I thought about Millstone.  1986, it was a
         25    great place to work.  And when we had a problem, Mr. Sellin
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          1    and the managers under him shut the plant down, fixed it,
          2    and we started it back up.
          3              In 1987, it was a whole different ball game, and
          4    from there on it's been downhill ever since.  And you should
          5    not take that lightly and you should not make the bare
          6    minimum requirements for employees concerns and work place
          7    environments the criteria here.  That's not what I think I
          8    heard the Commission say; that's not what I think I heard
          9    Chairman Jackson say at her public meetings, and I think we
         10    need something, an environment that's much better than
         11    adequate, and I think that it was well covered by the
         12    individuals in CAN that pointed out there's no slideback.
         13              Cynics, the word cynics has no place in a
         14    safety-conscious work environment.  It should have never
         15    been brought up in any context in a safety-conscious work
         16    environment.  It's absolutely unacceptable, and I don't care
         17    how NU chose to indicate it was used in a sentence or how
         18    they redefined it, it has no place.  And the very fact that
         19    some manager or some director or some vice president felt
         20    that there were cynics in his organization suggests to me a
         21    much bigger problem than what I've been hearing from Little
         22    Harbor Consultants regarding that work place environment. 
         23    There's a problem there somewhere.  Something is wrong, it
         24    should not be there.
         25              I kind of got the sense from Commissioner Diaz's
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          1    comments about some individuals he talked to in the
          2    oversight that weren't happy with the oversight and didn't
          3    feel like the oversight was doing the job it should, I kind
          4    of got the feeling, sitting there this morning, that maybe
          5    he was talking to some of those cynics.  That's very
          6    disturbing, that individuals have concerns and that their
          7    boss's sense that they're cynics, that they're developing
          8    some kind of overhead projection or so-called memorandum to
          9    identify that issue.  Nobody that ever worked for me would
         10    be considered a cynic because he had differences in an
         11    opinion.  I don't think that's right and that's a real
         12    problem.
         13              This morning Mr. Kenyon talked about strong
         14    backgrounds in engineering.  I beg to differ with you.  I am
         15    an instrument technician and I would know enough not to put
         16    an orifice that reduced an opening from 10 inches to 3
         17    inches with something immediately downstream of it.  I think
         18    it's general engineering knowledge, freshman knowledge, that
         19    you need a certain number of pipe diameters downstream of an
         20    orifice in order to let the flow get laminar so you don't
         21    have a lot of velocity changes, disturbed water flows; I
         22    can't believe they did that.  It seemed to me they did it
         23    out of a rush.  Seemed to me if you got a 4000 gallon a
         24    minute pump and you needed to pump 2500 gallons a minute,
         25    you'd take a couple of stages out of it.  That probably
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          1    would have took too long.  So we did the quick fix.
          2              The problem with oversight, the problem with
          3    quality control, and the difference between the line, a
          4    number of issues, but primarily NU submitted numbers for
          5    flows to do an evaluation for cavitation that were not
          6    equated to the flows they actually used in the test.
          7              The other issue -- and you should take a look at
          8    that.  They have a number of reports that they wrote on
          9    that; you probably ought to take a look at that.  I think
         10    the flows are up around 25 or 2800 gallon a minute, and what
         11    they submitted to Stone & Webster and what they submitted to
         12    Westinghouse was somewhere down around 2200 gallons per
         13    minute, and I think the resident expert that they had look
         14    at that indicated that around 2000 gallons a minute was when
         15    they started seeing the minute cavitation bubbles.
         16              An issue that is very important to the RSS issue
         17    is the fact that there were some calculation errors
         18    identified by Sergeant & Lundy.  Interesting enough,
         19    Sergeant & Lundy reviewed that exact system, RSS, as a part
         20    of the ICAVP, and it's amazing to me that they didn't come
         21    up with the problems that came about.  I find that very
         22    interesting.  I find it even more interesting that your SPO
         23    Department has them going back and re-reviewing the Rev. 1
         24    to that modification.  I think that's rather strange.
         25              On top of that, I looked at the -- I know we're
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          1    not talking about the ICAVP, but I think we're talking about
          2    corrective actions and I think we're talking about oversight
          3    issues, and they direct -- they relate directly to the
          4    workplace environment and to employee concerns, because you
          5    have to have this ability to correct problems when people
          6    identify them and, of course, we know that didn't take
          7    place.
          8              Having said that, the ICAVP identified as of the
          9    7th of April some 380 issues of deficiencies which both NU,
         10    Sergeant & Lundy and your SPO have agreed to, and of that,
         11    there were 158 Level 4 calculation and calculation control
         12    errors, an additional five Level 3 calculation and control
         13    -- calculation control errors, and there were 147 that had
         14    not been resolved yet.  That was the go-between that the
         15    Union of Concerned Scientists talked about back and forth,
         16    back and forth.  So I imagine there were more.
         17              Interestingly enough, 14, I believe, of the 17
         18    that Sergeant & Lundy found because the SPO asked them to
         19    review the RSS modifications, most of those were associated
         20    with calculation errors.  A calculation error was why the
         21    cavitation problem wasn't discovered.
         22              If it was me, I wouldn't let anybody start it up
         23    until you went back and looked at all of the calculation
         24    situations, not only on the four systems that they looked
         25    at, but at the 84 systems.  Talk about an emerging expansion
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          1    of ICAVP and your SPO not looking at it -- I don't care if
          2    they're Level 4; I think it meets the Level 4 criteria that
          3    says if you have a programmatic issue emerging or there's a
          4    trend, you need to take a look at it.  They're not looking
          5    at that.  We brought that up meeting after meeting after
          6    meeting in the public meeting in Waterford.  They're not
          7    addressing it.  I think you need to look at that.
          8              You know, somebody talked this morning about keys
          9    in vehicles and security.  That problem has gone on at
         10    Millstone for ten years.  And you would think they would
         11    have it fixed right now, but they don't.  That's amazing. 
         12    I'm absolutely amazed about that.
         13              The Nuclear Committee Advisory Group that was
         14    discussed earlier, which is the trustee oversight, I think
         15    they're doing their job, because if it wasn't for them, the
         16    two guys in the MOV Department and the engineer that got
         17    demoted over that MOV issue would have never even been
         18    offered their jobs back, as far as I'm concerned.  I think
         19    if you look at Little Harbor Consultants' report, you will
         20    find that a call was made from NCAT to Mr. Kenyon and I
         21    think that's why Mr. Kenyon changed his mind and brought
         22    those boys back.
         23              I have no question that the four people who were
         24    just before you have a lot of veracity.  I'm sure they
         25    believe in their company and I'm sure they're very
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          1    comfortable with what they're doing.  I'm not convinced the
          2    previous for did because those were individuals that
          3    communicated with me when they had complaints and lawsuits
          4    against NU because they couldn't come back to the company.
          5              Speaking of people calling me, I contacted you,
          6    Wayne Lanning, a couple of weeks ago because I have an
          7    individual who has three very significant concerns, what I
          8    believe are concerns, and he doesn't want to come forward. 
          9    He is afraid he's going to be retaliated and identified, and
         10    a couple of other people.
         11              The issue, he feels, will directly relate to him
         12    and originally had given me the issues and asked me to try
         13    to deal with the NRC on a confidential basis, and since then
         14    has had bad feelings about it and has retracted the comment
         15    from me that he wants me to come forward and talk to the NRC
         16    and I had to do that.  I think you need to be aware of that. 
         17    I wish I could discuss the issues here.  I can't do that. 
         18    Only suffice to say that they are issues, they need to be
         19    fixed.  The company is aware of them.  I don't think the
         20    company is going to come forward and tell you about them,
         21    but I think they need to get addressed.
         22              I think a very, very important issue with regard
         23    to the RSS issue, with regard to oversight, with regard to
         24    quality control and quality assurance, quite plainly, there
         25    was inadequate test review by both the line and by QC and
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          1    QA.  If that was the case, they would have known enough to
          2    look at the transverse axial requirements of those
          3    transducers to look at the vibration.  The fact that they
          4    didn't and went back to the manufacturer of the expansion
          5    joint and he asked what the numbers were for axial and
          6    transverse and they couldn't give them transverse numbers
          7    and then they went back and hooked up the transverse
          8    detectors and then realized they were way over the limit.
          9              So what that really speaks to is somebody didn't
         10    adequately review the work order.  Somebody didn't
         11    adequately review the design.  If they did, they wouldn't
         12    have put an orifice right next to an expansion joint anyway.
         13              So there's lots of problems there and, you know,
         14    to say it's an isolated case, I don't know, but you don't
         15    want to talk to me about having a strong engineering
         16    background at Millstone because I'm very concerned about
         17    that.
         18              The period of performance -- at which time
         19    Millstone says they're ready is when you should start
         20    looking at the period of performance.  They need to show you
         21    some sustained performance with regard to all the areas that
         22    they are being evaluated for, and from the time they say
         23    they're ready, that's when we start evaluating them, that's
         24    when we should be looking at what they're doing.  Some
         25    people have brought that up to you, and I think it's a very,
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          1    very important issue, because we have seen event after event
          2    after event there.
          3              Corrective action -- we've seen all kinds of
          4    events.  If I get an opportunity to come back to this table
          5    and talk to you at the next meeting, I'll talk to you about
          6    corrective action and I'll show you some problems with
          7    corrective action that I think need to be addressed.
          8              Recent noncompliances in the Nuclear Training
          9    Department with regard to the nuclear training manual in
         10    that there was a course taught for shift technical advisor
         11    where there was some falsification of documents which
         12    essentially established that the program had adequate lesson
         13    plans and lesson guides, both for the simulator and the
         14    taught course.
         15              I guess what that does is begs to differ with Mr.
         16    Bowling's conclusion that the procedure compliance program
         17    is working.  That was pretty recent -- February, January.  I
         18    don't think it's working right, guys.  You need to take a
         19    look at that.
         20              The last success criteria that was ID'd by Ms.
         21    Garde seems to underscore the fact that Little Harbor is
         22    continuously, has been continuously intervening and
         23    consulting to ensure that things get done correctly with
         24    regard to workplace environment and employee concerns.  If
         25    that's the case, then that's what's going on.  That
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          1    reinforces what I told you before.  We can't do that.  If
          2    you're going to need Little Harbor around, and it appears,
          3    from what the Union of Concerned Scientists said, they're
          4    going to need S&L; around to be comfortable, then these guys
          5    aren't ready and we shouldn't be looking at that.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Can you --
          7              MR. DEL CORE:  Yes, I will.
          8              John Beck's final statement to you regarding
          9    Little Harbor leaving sort of demonstrates to me the same
         10    thing I just identified about Ms. Garde's comments.  They're
         11    not real sure about it, so how can we be real sure about it?
         12              I thank you for your time, and I would like to
         13    include in this record all the letters that I have submitted
         14    to the Commission as a part of this proceeding if that is
         15    possible.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Yes.
         17              MR. DEL CORE:  Thank you.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.  Thank you for
         19    coming.
         20              I'm going to call forward the NRC staff, but we're
         21    going to take a three-minute break here.
         22              [Recess.]
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  We will continue with the NRC
         24    Staff, with respect to the three issues under discussion. 
         25    Mr. Callan.
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          1              MR. CALLAN:  Good afternoon, Chairman,
          2    Commissioners.
          3              As usual, as is our lot, the NRC Staff will
          4    provide the closing presentation, concluding presentation
          5    today.
          6              Our presentation this afternoon will differ from
          7    our past presentations in the sense that in the past we have
          8    focused on status of the activities that the SPO is
          9    providing oversight for.  Today our focus will be more on
         10    Staff conclusions and recommendations relative to the
         11    restart readiness of Millstone Unit 3 in the three areas
         12    before the Commission this afternoon.
         13              With me at the table are Sam Collins, to my right,
         14    who is the Director of the Office of Nuclear Reactor
         15    Regulation; to my left is Bill Travers, who is the Director
         16    of the Office of Special Projects, and also at the table are
         17    Bill's three main deputies, Gene Imbro, Phil McKee, and
         18    Wayne Lanning.
         19              Dr. Travers will be the main Staff presenter. 
         20    Bill?
         21              MR. TRAVERS:  Good afternoon.
         22              As Joe indicated, we are here before the
         23    Commission today to talk about three principal issues and
         24    our conclusions about each one of those.
         25              After I make a few introductory background
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          1    comments, Phil McKee is going to be addressing the aspects
          2    of the Employee Concern Program and Safety-Conscious Work
          3    Environment, and then Wayne Lanning is going to be
          4    addressing oversight quality assurance, and I am going to
          5    follow with a discussion of the backlog management issue.
          6              By way of background, the NRC Staff is continuing
          7    its oversight at Millstone and we are using the guidance in
          8    the NRC Inspection Manual, Chapter 0350, to guide us.  That
          9    guidance was used to develop the Millstone Review Plan,
         10    which we submitted to the Commission in SECY 97003.  We are
         11    essentially using the same plan that we established back in
         12    January of '97 and we have been using that throughout.
         13              For each of the Millstone units, the Staff has
         14    developed a Restart Assessment Plan which identifies the
         15    issues which need to be resolved before the Staff provides
         16    the Commission with the restart recommendation.
         17              Importantly, the Restart Assessment Plan
         18    incorporates the issues associated with the two orders which
         19    have been issued regarding required improvements in the
         20    Employment Concerns Program, Safety-Conscious Work
         21    Environment, and conformance with design basis licensing
         22    basis.
         23              This slide lists the key elements that we have
         24    contained in our RAP and several of which we are going to
         25    talk about today.
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          1              In addition to -- rather, before I begin by
          2    turning it over to Phil, let me just mention, as you have
          3    heard today that our program has been continuing, I think,
          4    to meet its commitment to involve stakeholders in this
          5    process.  We recognize that the people who live in the area
          6    of the Millstone plants have a vested interest in our
          7    program and how we approach our job, and I won't go over the
          8    numbers of meetings or anything like that that we have had,
          9    but we are trying to continue to actively involve the people
         10    who live in that area in our process.
         11              With that, I will turn it over to Phil McKee to
         12    discuss --
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me just ask you two things
         14    in going forward.
         15              If at any point any of your conclusions rests on
         16    inspection reports that have not yet been made public, for
         17    the record, will you so indicate?
         18              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes.  We will be happy to do that.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And secondly, you know, you
         20    were tasked with independently reviewing the quote/unquote
         21    "Cynics Memo" -- and somehow through your presentation I
         22    think it would be helpful to give your conclusions in that
         23    regard.
         24              MR. TRAVERS:  Perhaps we could just give you a
         25    status, since we are not yet complete with that review.  It
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          1    will be completed essentially in the issuance of a response
          2    to the 2-206 petition that we have, but if I could briefly
          3    run down the events.
          4              Following the issuance of that memo, and we became
          5    aware of it, I issued a letter to the utility, a demand for
          6    information letter, that required them under oath and
          7    affirmation to provide us with their assessment of the
          8    events associated with the language in that report and
          9    whether or not in their view there were any violations of
         10    NRC regulations.
         11              Subsequently to my issuance of that letter, they
         12    have responded.  They conducted an -- well, they conducted
         13    an investigative report or an investigative assessment of
         14    the issue.  They have given us their assessment of that. 
         15    They have given us the actual investigative report resulting
         16    from that.
         17              We are now in the midst of an independent
         18    assessment of that information and we expect to close that
         19    issue in our response under the 2-206 petition, and we
         20    expect that that could be within weeks.  We have essentially
         21    completed what we need to do to gather the information to
         22    make our assessment.
         23              If there are no other questions, I will turn it
         24    over to Phil.
         25              MR. McKEE:  Thank you.  Good afternoon.
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          1              I am just going to touch briefly on some
          2    background.  I recognize some of this information has been
          3    covered previously.
          4              In December, 1995, NRC formed the Millstone
          5    Independent Review Group to assess how employee concerns and
          6    allegations were handled at the Millstone Station.
          7              The Review Group found that in general an
          8    unhealthy work environment which did not tolerate dissenting
          9    views and did not welcome or promote questioning attitude
         10    had existed at Millstone Plants for the past several years.
         11              These problems had been recognized by Northeast
         12    Utilities' self-assessments as early as 1991 and again in
         13    some of their assessments in root cause analysis in 1995 and
         14    1996.
         15              Because of these concerns, on October 24th, 1996,
         16    NRC issued an order to Northeast Utilities requiring
         17    specific actions to be taken to resolve problems in their
         18    processes for handling employee safety issues.  The order
         19    required specific actions.
         20              One, it required Northeast Utilities to submit for
         21    NRC review and comment a comprehensive plan for reviewing
         22    and dispositioning safety issues raised by employees and
         23    ensuring that employees who raised safety concerns can do so
         24    without fear of retaliation.
         25              Secondly, it required Northeast Utilities to
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          1    submit for NRC review and approval a proposed third party
          2    organization to oversee implementation of its comprehensive
          3    plan.
          4              Third, it required that the third party
          5    organization, once approved, to submit for NRC review and
          6    approval a plan for overseeing Northeast Utilities'
          7    implementation of their plan.
          8              Lastly, the order required, the order specified
          9    that the third party oversight will continue to be
         10    implemented until the licensee demonstrates by its
         11    performance that the conditions which led to the requirement
         12    of the oversight have been corrected to the satisfaction of
         13    the NRC.
         14              I just wanted to make those points because that
         15    bears on the structure of our review and analysis.
         16              Whereas the first three elements of the order
         17    specify actions to be completed prior to restart of a
         18    Millstone unit, the remaining element, the NRC determination
         19    of cessation of the third party oversight was not linked to
         20    the facility restart but to demonstrated licensee
         21    performance.
         22              The Staff anticipates, and this was discussed I
         23    believe earlier here, that the decision can be made on the
         24    continuing need for the third party oversight about six
         25    months following the restart of a Millstone unit.
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          1              The order did not specify requirements for restart
          2    of Millstone units.  The Special Projects Office Restart
          3    Assessment Plan addresses this aspect and specifies that
          4    Northeast Utilities' programs for handling employee concerns
          5    need to be improved and effective to support the restart of
          6    any of the Millstone units.
          7              The next slide, please.
          8              To kind of give you an overview here, the Staff's
          9    approach for the assessment of Northeast Utilities' progress
         10    in upgrading programs for handling employee concerns was
         11    provided as an attachment to the Special Projects Office
         12    December, 1997 Commission paper.
         13              The assessment plan presents the Staff's
         14    methodology for determining progress made by the licensee to
         15    improve their Safety-Conscious Work Environment and
         16    operations of their Employee Concern Program.
         17              The Staff's plan purposely distinguishes between
         18    Employee Concern Program and Safety-Conscious Work
         19    Environment activities.  I might just give a brief
         20    description here that the Employee Concern Program refers to
         21    the licensee's formal organization and program that handles
         22    concerns raised by employees which arise outside the normal
         23    line organization function.
         24              Safety Conscious Work Environment refers to a
         25    broader perspective of work environment in which employees
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          1    are encouraged to raise safety concerns and the concerns are
          2    promptly and appropriately resolved with timely feedback to
          3    the originator.
          4              The Staff's assessment approach included
          5    independent Staff evaluations of the licensee's
          6    Safety-Conscious Work Environment activities and review and
          7    monitoring of Little Harbor oversight of those activities.
          8              This approach provided the Staff with independent
          9    assessment of the status and effectiveness of Northeast
         10    Utilities' programs as well as providing a comparative basis
         11    for establishing confidence in Little Harbor's oversight
         12    findings and conclusions.
         13              In implementing this approach, the Staff
         14    evaluation of Little Harbor focused on their oversight
         15    processes, the thoroughness of their activities, and
         16    completeness in implementation of their oversight plan.
         17              Staff's evaluation of Northeast Utilities'
         18    Employee Concern Program included a limited scope assessment
         19    of organizational support, conduct of their activities, and
         20    assessment of the results of their investigations.
         21              Staff's evaluation of Northeast Utilities'
         22    Safety-Conscious Work Environment activities included staff
         23    assessment of key program functions that support a
         24    Safety-Conscious Work Environment.
         25              In the next couple of slides I will cover some of
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          1    these aspects of our looking at Little Harbor and the
          2    Employee Concern and Safety-Conscious Work Environment with
          3    a little more detail.
          4              If I can have the next slide, please.
          5              First, I would like to provide an overview of
          6    Staff's actions -- before I do that, I want to provide an
          7    overview of the Staff actions to review Employee Concern and
          8    Safety-Conscious Work Environment activities.
          9              This slide lists a broad range of the activities
         10    that we performed over the period.
         11              The first three items listed concerns -- Staff
         12    actions with respect to the order.  Staff reviewed and
         13    provided comments on Northeast Utilities' comprehensive
         14    plan. Staff reviewed and approved Northeast Utilities'
         15    proposal for a third party organization, and Staff reviewed
         16    and approved the third party organization and their plan and
         17    their oversight plan.
         18              Following approval of Little Harbor Consultants as
         19    the third party oversight organization, Staff initiated
         20    periodic meetings between Northeast Utilities, Little Harbor
         21    Consultants, and the NRC.  These working meetings provided a
         22    means for Little Harbor to present the results of their
         23    oversight activities, including their presentation of
         24    observations, their findings, recommendations, and
         25    conclusions.
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          1              The licensee had an opportunity to present the
          2    results of their planned implementation activities in
          3    response to past -- and they also responded to past Little
          4    Harbor recommendations and the status of their performance.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And how effective do you think
          6    those meetings were?
          7              MR. McKEE:  I think those meetings and the
          8    preparation involved in those meetings was very critical to
          9    our processes.
         10              I think it brought forward the issues in an open
         11    forum.  Those meetings were open to the public and to
         12    everyone's knowledge and response to those issues, so I
         13    think not only the meetings themselves but the preparation
         14    and the follow-up after them were critical in our processes.
         15              Since October, 1997 at a frequency of about every
         16    other week, the Staff or an NRC contractor has been present
         17    at the site with the sole responsibility to monitor the
         18    licensee Employee Concern Program and Safety-Conscious Work
         19    Environment program activities, their implementation, and
         20    also that individual was observing the activities in the
         21    oversight activities of Little Harbor Consultants.
         22              In December, 1997 -- a week in December, 1997 and
         23    a week in January, 1998 NRC conducted a team evaluation of
         24    Northeast's Employee Concern Program and Safety-Conscious
         25    Work Environment Programs and their implementation.
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          1              During the same period some of the same
          2    individuals involved also did an evaluation of Little
          3    Harbor's oversight activities.  Staff closely tracked the
          4    licensee's development, use, and assessment of Employee
          5    Concern Program and Safety-Conscious Work Environment
          6    performance measures, many of which you have heard earlier
          7    today.
          8              An inspector was assigned to NRC's team inspection
          9    of Northeast's corrective action program to assess how
         10    concerns raised by employees were addressed through use of
         11    normal line organization processes.  The inspector on the
         12    team also assessed the willingness of employees to raise
         13    concerns through the corrective action program and their
         14    comfort in using this process.
         15              MR. TRAVERS:  If I may just add one point here,
         16    while we have issued our team evaluation report of the
         17    assessment of both Little Harbor and Northeast, the
         18    corrective action inspection report has not yet been issued.
         19              A quick look summary of our significant results
         20    has been issued, to respond to your direction.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         22              MR. McKEE:  Yes.  I might add, and it will save me
         23    from mentioning it in the future, our reports on our
         24    oversight of Little Harbor Consultants and our report on the
         25    Employee Concern Program, both of those reports have been
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          1    issued.  We had quick look reports on them earlier, but the
          2    final reports have been issued.
          3              The Staff also followed personnel actions taken by
          4    the licensee or contractor that raised concern of potential
          5    discrimination or chilling effect.
          6              Our attention for these actions was directed on
          7    the processes used by the licensee for handling of these
          8    incidents.
          9              Okay -- if I could have the next slide, please.
         10              Little Harbor's NRC approved plan for overseeing
         11    licensee activities highlights three primary functions.  The
         12    slide may be a little confusing in that the activities
         13    listed under each of these three functions or functional
         14    areas refer to Little Harbor activities and not NRC
         15    activities.
         16              Staff's evaluation of Little Harbor's oversight
         17    concentrated on their implementation in these major
         18    functional areas.
         19              Regarding the first element of Little Harbor's
         20    plan and that is listed as "Assessment of Millstone Safety
         21    Culture."  Staff found that Little Harbor's structured
         22    interviews conducted once -- the first one was in the summer
         23    of 1997 and again in February 1998 to be thorough,
         24    well-structured, and carefully administered.  Further staff
         25    found that Little Harbor's periodic assessments of
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          1    licensee's performance with respect to the 12 attributes of
          2    an ideal safety conscious work environment and Little
          3    Harbor's assessment of the licensee's four success criteria
          4    included accurate and acceptable supporting bases.
          5              With respect to the second major element of Little
          6    Harbor's plan, that's program evaluations, staff found
          7    Little Harbor's programmatic evaluations to be well planned,
          8    conducted, and documented.  Soon after their approval Little
          9    Harbor conducted significant or major programmatic reviews
         10    and provided recommendations regarding the licensee's
         11    comprehensive plan and also their employee concerns program. 
         12    Staff found that Little Harbor's review of the employee
         13    concern program implementation, including investigation
         14    processes, assessment of harassment and intimidation
         15    concerns and documentation and findings to be particularly
         16    thorough and effective in identifying potential programmatic
         17    weaknesses that were later addressed by the licensee.
         18              In addition, Little Harbor conducted assessments
         19    of the effectiveness of other licensee programs supporting a
         20    safety conscious work environment including Northeast
         21    Utilities' corrective action, self-assessment, and oversight
         22    programs.  Staff found these assessments to be thorough and
         23    complete.
         24              Further Little Harbor conducted independent
         25    investigations and monitoring of alleged incidents of
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          1    harassment and intimidation, the long word, retaliation, and
          2    discrimination and I'll try not to use the word "HERD" as
          3    our acronym for that, and chilling effect.
          4              These investigative and monitoring activities were
          5    considered by the staff to be well planned and
          6    comprehensive.
          7              Regarding the third major element of Little
          8    Harbor's plan, communications and reporting, the findings of
          9    Little Harbor cultural assessments and programmatic reviews
         10    were presented at the periodic open public meetings with the
         11    licensee and NRC.  These are the meetings I was speaking of
         12    before.  Little Harbor also presented the findings that one
         13    major element was the presentation of their findings of
         14    their surveys and also their assessments of attributes.
         15              From May 1997 through April 1998 nine meetings
         16    were held.  At these meetings and in follow-up
         17    correspondence Little Harbor presented some 111
         18    recommendations.  Staff found these recommendations were
         19    representative of thorough program reviews and appropriate
         20    input for enhancing program effectiveness.
         21              As specified in Little Harbor's oversight plan,
         22    they have -- Little Harbor has effectively tracked the
         23    licensee's response to each of these recommendations. 
         24    Further, staff found that Little Harbor's documentation of
         25    their activities, including details provided in their
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          1    quarterly reports provided a sound basis supporting their
          2    findings with respect to cultural assessments, performance
          3    evaluations, and program reviews.
          4              In summary, staff considers that Little Harbor has
          5    effectively carried out its oversight activities.
          6              Could I have the next slide, please?
          7              Special projects -- special project office
          8    evaluation of Northeast Utilities employee concern program
          9    was derived mostly from the findings of the NRC team
         10    evaluation conducted in December of 1997 and January of
         11    1998.
         12              The team looked at several key aspects of the
         13    program and audited several concerned investigation cases. 
         14    Staff found the employee concern program organization which
         15    consists of a staff of about 23 people had independence,
         16    resources and management support to perform thorough,
         17    unbiased investigations.  Staff found that employee concern
         18    program staff and investigators to be well qualified and
         19    appropriately trained for their assigned tasks.  Staff
         20    audited 18 employee concern program case files and found
         21    that employee concerns were prioritized based on safety
         22    significance.  Identities were protected, case resolution
         23    was timely and there was appropriate follow-on corrective
         24    action.  Staff further found that the conclusions of the
         25    employee concern program evaluations were properly supported
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          1    by investigations.  The investigations were unbiased,
          2    corrective actions were proper the resolve the issues and
          3    communications with employees about their concerns was
          4    improved and being further enhanced.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Did you question any of the
          6    case file resolutions that would have resulted in any
          7    different conclusions?  So you're saying, to the extent that
          8    you looked at the case file resolutions you agreed with
          9    them?
         10              MR. McKEE:  We agreed with the resolutions.  We
         11    saw -- some discrepancies were found in our review and some
         12    of their capturing -- in one case they found some of the --
         13    one elements of a concern may not have not been captured for
         14    follow-up, and also categorization.  But the resolutions we
         15    didn't find any issues with the resolutions.
         16              And we did some comparison or this.  These were
         17    cases that had gone through the process and I don't believe
         18    that Little Harbor had found issues as we were making some
         19    comparative analysis.  And I think partially because of
         20    Little Harbor's recommendations early on in April and a
         21    combing of the cases, the cases in the files, and the
         22    preparation were done very well.
         23              Staff found that the employee concern program
         24    management was using performance measures effectively to
         25    trend and analyze emerging issues of performance trends and
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          1    initiate actions as may be necessary.
          2              The Millstone independent review group found in
          3    their evaluation serious interface problems between the
          4    employee concern program and other organizational elements,
          5    particularly human resources.  Early in their program
          6    evaluations Little Harbor consultants also found
          7    programmatic deficiencies in these interfaces.
          8              The staff team evaluation last December and
          9    January found organization interfaces between the employee
         10    concerns program, organization, other organizations and
         11    particularly that of human resources were well integrated
         12    and much improved and they were operating effectively.
         13              The NRC evaluation team reviewed self-assessments
         14    and found that they covered a broad spectrum of employee
         15    concern program activities, were improved from earlier
         16    assessments and were appropriately self-critical.
         17              Based on its review staff considers that the
         18    employee concern program had made significant improvement
         19    over the past year and was an effectively operating
         20    organization.
         21              Can I have the next slide, please?
         22              Special projects office evaluation of Northeast
         23    Utilities safety conscious work environment activities was
         24    derived principally from the findings of the NRC team
         25    evaluation conducted in December of 1997 and January 1998,
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          1    the staff's on-site monitoring of Northeast's safety
          2    conscious work environment activities.
          3              Several key activities closely aligned to a safety
          4    conscious work environment were evaluated.
          5              It's important to note here, and I think it was
          6    discussed by others, that several of these activities are
          7    unique to Millstone and represent enhanced measures needed
          8    to address significant past program weaknesses.  As recently
          9    as last summer staff had concerns about the organizational
         10    support for the safety conscious work environment and
         11    activities.
         12              Since that time Northeast has established a formal
         13    safety conscious work environmental organization with
         14    dedicated staff and with that staff being delineated to
         15    specific safety conscious work environment responsibilities.
         16              Staff considers that the organization and staffing
         17    now provides appropriate support and coordination of the
         18    many ongoing work environment activities.
         19              The next three items on the slide there identified
         20    in the slide are activities implemented at Millstone station
         21    that are distinct from programs that may be found at other
         22    nuclear power stations.  Northeast Utilities program to
         23    identify and take actions to address areas were a challenge
         24    to the safety conscious work environment exists.
         25              Their specially designed training programs for
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          1    managers, supervisors and all employees emphasizing safety
          2    conscious work and their formation of the executive review
          3    board to review proposed disciplinary actions with respect
          4    to potential discrimination and chilling effect.  All of
          5    these are significant safety conscious work environment
          6    initiatives and they have been discussed earlier, but they
          7    are important -- important program initiatives that they
          8    have done.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But the programs are as
         10    programs do.  And I noted you skipped over "response to
         11    personnel action cases."
         12              MR. McKEE:  Oh, okay.  I -- I'll get to that. 
         13    I'll discuss that in a minute.  I must have -- I think that
         14    got crossed in my notes here.
         15              One additional item that's not listed on the slide
         16    is the formation by Northeast Utilities of their employee
         17    concern oversight panel which consists of Northeast
         18    employees who have a role in monitoring the Millstone
         19    workplace environment.
         20              Staff reviewed and monitored implementation of
         21    these programs and considers them constructive enhancements
         22    to promote a safety conscious work environment.  Each of
         23    these programs was found to be operating effectively.
         24              And getting to your point, Chairman Jackson, staff
         25    reviewed and monitored licensee handling and response to
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          1    incidents involving potential harassment, intimidation and
          2    chilling effect that occurred over the last year with an
          3    emphasis on assessing the adequacy of the licensee's process
          4    for dealing with issues as they arise.
          5              Staff considers that Northeast's response to the
          6    incidents demonstrated management willingness to admit to
          7    mistakes or problems in their processes and willingness to
          8    take prompt actions to address issues as they arise. 
          9    Further a number of the safety conscious work environment
         10    program enhancements were implemented and refined based on
         11    lessons learned from these incidents.  So I think some of
         12    these incidents, there are some and there are some that are
         13    not mentioned here where proactive efforts may have avoided
         14    those.  I think they had shown a demonstration to
         15    acknowledge them and deal with the incidents and actually
         16    their program is growing to some extent from lessons learned
         17    from this.
         18              Northeast Utilities developed longer-range plans
         19    for continued dedication of resources and maintaining the
         20    employee concern program and the safety conscious work
         21    environment infrastructuring in monitoring a performance
         22    following the restart of a Millstone unit.  Staff reviewed
         23    these plans and considers that they provide an acceptable
         24    framework for assuring the organizational and resource
         25    support necessary to assure -- to assure that the safety
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          1    conscious work environment is maintained.
          2              And if I could have the last slide that I'm going
          3    to speak to here?
          4              In summary and in conclusion I would like to say,
          5    the actions required in the NRC October 24th, 1996 order to
          6    be accomplished before the restart of any of the Millstone
          7    units have been completed.
          8              Staff concludes that Little Harbor Consultants has
          9    effectively carried out its oversight functions and staff
         10    has high confidence in results and conclusions of their
         11    assessment of licensee performance and program status.
         12              Staff concludes that the licensee's employee
         13    concern program is significantly improved, well-established,
         14    and operating effectively.
         15              Staff also concludes the licensee's programs to
         16    support a safety conscious work environment are improved and
         17    effective, and appropriate plans are in place to see that
         18    support of these programs is appropriately maintained.
         19              Based on these findings special projects office
         20    considers that Northeast Utilities safety conscious work
         21    environment and employee concern program are acceptable to
         22    stipulation restart in Millstone 3.  This conclusion
         23    recognizes that the Northeast employee concern program and
         24    safety conscious work environment program will continue to
         25    be subject to a period of continuing oversight by the third
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          1    party, our contractor, until the NRC is satisfied that the
          2    program corrections are established and sustained.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do the allegation numbers, but
          4    more particularly the extraction of the technical content
          5    and the disposition of concerns raised support your
          6    assessment of program improvements?
          7              MR. McKEE:  The allegation numbers by themselves
          8    -- the allegation --
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I said, and especially how the
         10    technical content was identified and dispositioned.
         11              MR. McKEE:  Because that's important.  The
         12    allegation numbers at Millstone had stayed high and
         13    relatively the same, although they received -- I believe the
         14    numbers are 71 allegations in calendar year '97 and however
         15    which equates almost to a rate of six allegations per month. 
         16    I think in the last six months we've seen maybe a slight
         17    decrease in that number.
         18              I might note that of those allegations and of the
         19    ones that have been closed and confirmed, about 20 to 25
         20    percent of those have been -- are substantiated.  Which is a
         21    lower number than the national average in substantiation
         22    which give -- I mean, you can take numbers and apply and
         23    give meaning to it, but I think that has somewhat inferences
         24    on some of the details of the allegations as far as the
         25    technical aspect.  As far as the technical issues, and there
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          1    are no issues -- our technical issues -- you know, we've
          2    looked through the allegations and involved with any of the
          3    allegations that we're aware of at this time, we think that
          4    are of significance that it would have an adverse impact on
          5    restart of Millstone Unit 3.
          6              And you recognize that these are allegations all
          7    for the site and there are some allegations that involve
          8    some of the other specific units.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, it seems to me there are
         10    three issues with any allegations or any employee concerns
         11    raised.  One is getting to the root of it, you know,
         12    assessing the technical content of it.  Having done that,
         13    determining the safety significant and looking at how it's
         14    dispositioned accordingly.  And the third is whether the
         15    individuals who may have raised the concerns have been dealt
         16    with professionally and fairly.  And are you assuring the
         17    Commission that on each of those three points that you feel
         18    that the employee concerns program and the safety conscious
         19    work environment programs are working effectively to support
         20    restart?
         21              MR. McKEE:  I think from the licensee's point the
         22    concerns that they receive and observations of programs they
         23    have come a long way and accomplish those three criteria
         24    that you mention.  As far as our allegations, that is our
         25    goal and our purpose.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  No, but I'm saying from -- you
          2    said from the licensee's point of view, I'm asking you from
          3    your point of view of the licensee's program, can you give
          4    us assurance with respect to those three points?
          5              MR. TRAVERS:  Within the licensees, we're talking
          6    about a little bit separate thing, but in combination,
          7    directly in response to your question, yes.  The program
          8    that they have in place that we have evaluated and that
          9    Little Harbor has been looking at to take concerns, evaluate
         10    them, effectively interface with the people who raise them,
         11    and appropriately correct, if any technical issues are
         12    substantiated, the issue, we have found effective in the
         13    course of our program.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Commissioner?
         15              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes.  There has been an issue
         16    coming all day long with regard to the employee concern
         17    program and the safety conscious work environment, and the
         18    issue is, are the results good now because there are that
         19    many independent organizations?
         20              Could you elaborate a little bit on how robust do
         21    you think the present licensee program is, not what anybody
         22    else is doing, but how robust is that program to be able to
         23    --
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Stand alone.
         25              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  -- stand alone.
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          1              MR. TRAVERS:  There's no question that this
          2    licensee, because of the problems that it faced, has taken
          3    extraordinary measures, not the least of which is our order
          4    for them to establish an oversight -- independent oversight
          5    organization which has been a factor, clearly, in their
          6    ability to recognize and deal with the program problems and
          7    the implementation problems that they face.
          8              The conclusion that we're providing the Commission
          9    today is one that, from our vantage, concludes that these
         10    programs are working effectively, and they're working on
         11    their own adequately to support restart, but mindful of the
         12    history at Millstone, mindful of the fragility that I think
         13    Little Harbor addressed in these programs and the potential
         14    for them to backslide if these programs aren't very
         15    carefully carried through.  We think it's appropriate for
         16    some extraordinary measures to continue.  We think the
         17    licensee's programs have provided a transition plan which is
         18    directed to our more nominal state.
         19              Certainly the program and the order that we've
         20    laid on this utility envisions for some period of time that
         21    extraordinary measures in the form of an independent
         22    oversight committee would be appropriate.  But the bottom
         23    line to our assessment is that we have to conclude and we
         24    have to come before the Commission and express to you our
         25    view that the programs that they have in place today are
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          1    functioning adequately.
          2              We have had some two years of time to review the
          3    progress that they've made.  It hasn't been as quick in some
          4    instances as we would have liked.  But today, we think we
          5    have had adequate opportunity and a fairly long period of
          6    opportunity to assess not only the programs being in place,
          7    but the implementation of those programs, and we think
          8    that's --
          9              MR. CALLAN:  I might say also, without taking
         10    anything away from what Bill said, mindful also of the NRC's
         11    experience over the last decade and a half elsewhere, other
         12    sites.  You know, Millstone is not the first site that the
         13    NRC has grappled with organizational climate problems and
         14    dysfunctional organizational cultures.  We have a fair
         15    amount of experience, particularly in the last ten years or
         16    so.  We know how long it takes, we know how difficult it is. 
         17    And believe it or not, I think we all share some of the
         18    skepticism that we heard earlier from some of the earlier
         19    speakers, maybe not to the same degree, but I think we also
         20    worry about margin.  We worry about backsliding.  I mean,
         21    those are legitimate concerns, and we should be skeptical
         22    and we should think of compensatory measures, if you will,
         23    if you think of Little Harbor as a compensatory measure to
         24    add additional margin to ensure that we see the sustained
         25    performance that was referred to earlier.
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          1              So I think a fair amount of healthy skepticism,
          2    not only because of Millstone, Millstone's unique history,
          3    but also because of our experience elsewhere.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Thank you.
          5              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Let me go back to it.  Does
          6    the program have roots inside?  I mean, it's not something
          7    that it's just sitting there?  Does it have roots in the
          8    organization?
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is it sod?
         10              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Is it sod?
         11              MR. TRAVERS:  Well, what we've seen and what we're
         12    trying to convey is that what we've seen -- is it working? 
         13    We've seen evidence from Little Harbor and our own
         14    evaluations that the work force embraces it and is using it. 
         15    We think we need to see follow-through.  We think that's
         16    going to be important.  They have expressed their intent to
         17    do that.
         18              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Sometimes these organizations
         19    are very people-dependent.
         20              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes.
         21              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  You have seen almost a
         22    traumatic change, okay.  How has that impacted the
         23    effectiveness of the program?  Did it continue because the
         24    program had roots or it was dysfunctional for a while?  You
         25    actually saw that happening.
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          1              MR. TRAVERS:  I guess, in my own estimation, the
          2    program didn't change overnight.  It was a gradual, painful
          3    process at times.  There were mistakes made, there were
          4    lessons learned.  We followed some of it.  Little Harbor
          5    followed it much more closely.
          6              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  No, you're missing the
          7    question.
          8              MR. CALLAN:  But Commissioner, usually these kinds
          9    of programs at the early stages are very personality driven,
         10    individually driven, and it takes a long time for that to be
         11    institutionalized, and at what point are these -- are the
         12    successes of these programs weaned from personalities and at
         13    what point are they institutionalized, if you will, so that
         14    they're independent of individual managers, and that's a
         15    very difficult call.
         16              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  I understand.  You did see a
         17    significant change in the organization --
         18              MR. CALLAN:  Right.
         19              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  -- which was very recent, and
         20    I was wondering whether there was any change that you
         21    noticed in the performance at that time.
         22              MR. McKEE:  I think if there was a change in their
         23    performance at that time is the way -- again, we look at
         24    those incidents, we look at the process.  I mean, it's part
         25    of what -- and how they dealt with that issue and how they
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          1    reacted to that issue, I think that reaction would not have
          2    been there, the same reaction, had something like this come
          3    up a year ago.  So I think there definitely was a change in
          4    their performance and their attitude in dealing with that
          5    item as it came up, to the positive.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Yes?
          7              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  I just want to explore
          8    the criteria for when Little Harbor might cease being this
          9    -- I think of it more as a safeguard than a compensatory
         10    measure because you're telling us that the program is
         11    working, but there's this safeguard.
         12              Mr. Beck earlier today said one metric might be
         13    when he's not getting anything, there's no value added.  Mr.
         14    Markowicz suggested a metric that keeps them there at least
         15    until the number of employee concerns and the NRC
         16    allegations have been reduced to and maintained at the
         17    industry averages for best-run power plants.
         18              You have turned out six months, but the way I
         19    heard that phrase was six months and we can make a decision,
         20    not six months and they're gone.  But how do you make that
         21    decision at the six-month point as to whether the -- what is
         22    your metric at that point?  Are you going to --
         23              MR. McKEE:  Okay.  I think a couple of things that
         24    you mentioned are appropriate is -- one item that we're
         25    interested in is, given the changing environment, once a
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          1    unit is approved for restart, watching the operations of
          2    that program under the atmosphere where you have a unit
          3    operating and also a unit where you still have a lot of
          4    activity to correct.  You want to see that that program,
          5    which has gotten to the level it is, can sustain and deal
          6    with issues at that time.
          7              We'll be looking for a period, and we just assumed
          8    -- six months was kind of a guess that that would be an
          9    appropriate kind of watch period, and it would be some of
         10    the elements that Little Harbor talked about, that there
         11    weren't incidents that Little Harbor's observations or, you
         12    know, recommendations on incidents would not be involved,
         13    that if things come up, they would be properly dealt with,
         14    and we just assumed that six months might be an appropriate
         15    time for that.
         16              MR. TRAVERS:  But fundamentally, we're looking at
         17    the same kinds of performance indicators that got us to this
         18    point.  I think the follow-through is essentially the same
         19    model.  In other words, what are our continued observations,
         20    what kind of observations does Little Harbor have in the
         21    same areas that we've been covering with the Commission from
         22    time to time.
         23              MR. McKEE:  And I also might add, there's one
         24    element in that that we have now, and I think what we have
         25    been presented is a pretty good plan, is a transition plan
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          1    presented by the licensee and how they plan sometime in the
          2    future, not necessarily six months, but a year or whatever
          3    it is, and based on measures, how they plan to transform
          4    from the organization in which they have enhanced elements
          5    into a more regular structure organization, and I think
          6    we'll need some period to see how that -- how they may do
          7    their own measurements and assessments so that they can do
          8    that transition, and that will be part of the decision.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         10              MR. CALLAN:  The next presentation will be from
         11    Wayne Lanning on oversight and quality assurance.
         12              MR. LANNING:  Good afternoon.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good afternoon.
         14              MR. LANNING:  First slide, please.
         15              The Millstone Restart Assessment Panel has
         16    addressed oversight as the combined activities of the
         17    quality assurance organization as required by Appendix B,
         18    reviews completed by the safety committees as required by
         19    the technical specifications, and the self-assessment
         20    function performed by the line management to improve
         21    processes.
         22              Oversight is a restart issue because of
         23    ineffective program implementation and failure to identify
         24    declining performance.
         25              Historically oversight contributed to the weak
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          1    performance at Millstone.  In the 1995-96 time frame
          2    external and internal audits judged oversight ineffective. 
          3    Prior to '94 the NRC twice rated in our systematic
          4    assessment of the licensee performance program the
          5    functional area of safety assessment and quality
          6    verification as category 3.  Quality control effectiveness
          7    was diminished by the systematic elimination of the quality
          8    control hold points and the failure of line management to
          9    accept audit and surveillance findings and carry out
         10    corrective actions.
         11              Audit exit interviews were not well attended by
         12    line management.  Self-assessments were typically not
         13    initiated until a problem became apparent, and they were
         14    narrowly focused and often lacked critical and thorough
         15    evaluations.  Identified performance improvements were
         16    generally not carried out.
         17              The four safety committees are the Plant
         18    Operations Review Committee, the Site Operations Review
         19    Committee, the Independent Safety Engineering Group, and the
         20    Nuclear Safety Assessment Board.  In the past these
         21    committees were narrowly focused on compliance and generally
         22    not effective in preventing recurring performance problems. 
         23    They did not manage their backlogs, and they tolerated weak
         24    performance by management.
         25              The licensee developed a broad corrective-action
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          1    program for the deficiencies identified through these
          2    external and internal audits.  The root cause for
          3    ineffective oversight was identified as a lack of executive
          4    leadership and management support.
          5              The next slide lists staff activities regarding
          6    the evaluations of the licensee's corrective actions to
          7    recover oversight.  These include the normal inspection
          8    activities done by the resident inspectors and region-based
          9    inspectors.  The most comprehensive evaluation of oversight
         10    was performed by an inspection team using the inspection
         11    procedure 40500, the title of which is "Effectiveness of
         12    Licensee Controls in Identifying, Resolving, and Preventing
         13    Problems."  This eight-person team completed its inspection
         14    in late February.  This report has not been issued.  It's
         15    currently under management review.
         16              The Operational Safety Team inspection completed
         17    its onsite activities just last Friday.  The exit meeting
         18    for that team is next week.  This inspection evaluates the
         19    readiness of plant hardware, staff, and management programs
         20    to support safe restart and continued operation.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Did you look specifically at
         22    oversight?
         23              MR. LANNING:  Yes, ma'am.  They evaluated the
         24    performance of the safety committees and self-assessment
         25    activities, and the role of oversight in other functional
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          1    areas is maintenance, surveillance, and engineering, and so
          2    forth.
          3              The preliminary results were used, the staff
          4    assessment of oversight.  Additional insights were gained
          5    through both NRC and contractor inspections of the
          6    significant-items list.  The restart assessment panel
          7    identified this list of safety issues and processes required
          8    for restart as part of manual chapter 350 activities that
          9    Dr. Travers discussed previously.
         10              Finally, the NRC held periodic management meetings
         11    with the licensee to discuss the status of restart
         12    activities.  These meetings gave the staff insights into
         13    licensee management support of oversight.
         14              The next slide outlines some of the findings by
         15    the staff's evaluation of oversight.  The Nuclear Oversight
         16    Organization adequately implements the license's quality
         17    assurance program.  Management support for the oversight
         18    organization is evident.  Key managers have been replaced to
         19    provide leadership, and adequate, qualified staff has been
         20    added to the organization to accomplish its mission.
         21              The recovery plan to improve performance through
         22    programmatic and organizational changes is complete.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is almost complete.
         24              MR. LANNING:  Is complete.  There is an error on
         25    this slide.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
          2              MR. LANNING:  The recovery plan is complete and
          3    the oversight organization continues to improve on some of
          4    the areas that were in the initial plan.
          5              Management has established standards and
          6    expectations, organizational infrastructure, and teamwork. 
          7    Particularly noteworthy is that line management now embraces
          8    oversight findings and evaluations.
          9              Audits and evaluations are rigorous and completed
         10    on schedule with substantial feedback on management
         11    performance in the recovery process.  They maintain
         12    differing and sometimes unpopular positions during the
         13    recovery process.
         14              The nuclear oversight assessments, the readiness
         15    to promote changes, and the design reviews of the
         16    recirculation spray system were excellent.  Quality control
         17    now reviews all quality assurance work for hold points
         18    before the work is released to the field to the mechanics.
         19              Finally, the Nuclear Oversight Organization has
         20    demonstrated that it can identify problems at a very low
         21    threshold and assure that corrective actions for their
         22    findings are completed in an acceptable manner.
         23              The staff concludes that the Nuclear Oversight
         24    Organization is improved, it's integrated into the Millstone
         25    organization, and now effective.
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          1              The four safety committees add value to the
          2    oversight function.  Currently each committee meets its
          3    regulatory requirements and achieves its goals and
          4    management expectations.
          5              The committees focus on operational safety.  They
          6    identify safety issues and track their findings and
          7    recommendations to ensure that they're adequately carried
          8    out by line management.
          9              The next slide --
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What does "meets technical
         11    specifications" mean in this context?
         12              MR. LANNING:  It meets the requirements specified
         13    in Unit 3 technical specifications.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You mean to have these
         15    committees.
         16              MR. LANNING:  To have these committees, proper
         17    staffing --
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I just wanted to understand the
         19    context.
         20              MR. LANNING:  Meeting frequency --
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Fine.
         22              MR. LANNING:  In that respect.
         23              This slide summarizes the Staff's evaluation of
         24    the licensee's self-assessment activities.
         25              The licensee has implemented a formal self-
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          1    assessment program that now defines the expectations,
          2    accountability, and ownership.
          3              For example, every department must perform self-
          4    assessments and this includes the Nuclear Oversight
          5    Organization, which also has responsibility to evaluate the
          6    effectiveness of the self-assessment program, and you will
          7    recall from this morning's discussions that the Nuclear
          8    Safety Assessment Board provides oversight of the Nuclear
          9    Safety Organization.
         10              The Staff has reviewed several self-assessments
         11    and found them to be critical and the technical adequacy
         12    improving.  The self-assessments identified problems,
         13    identified the issues at a low threshold and generally did
         14    so before they were identified by outside organizations.
         15              Line management showed ownership of the findings
         16    and ensured that corrective actions were addressed and
         17    completed in a timely and acceptable manner to improve the
         18    organization and processes.
         19              The next slide shows the Staff's conclusion
         20    regarding oversight.  The Restart Assessment Panel has
         21    integrated the inspection findings and concludes that
         22    oversight is adequate to support restart and continue safe
         23    operation.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Mr. Lanning -- I'm sorry, go
         25    ahead.  Please, finish.
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          1              MR. LANNING:  Okay.  This conclusion is based on
          2    demonstrated effective performance by the Nuclear Oversight
          3    Organization and adequate performance by the safety
          4    committees and an effective self-assessment program.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I want to look at this adequate
          6    performance by the safety committees for a second.
          7              Can you comment on the safety committee
          8    performance as it is related to the recirc spray system
          9    modifications?
         10              MR. LANNING:  The Plant Operations Review
         11    Committee reviewed the modification before it was done. 
         12    They did have questions, but quite frankly, the technical
         13    aspects of that mod is really not within the capability of
         14    the PORC organization so I think it's fair to say that it
         15    was not an expectation for them to have identified the
         16    complex engineering weaknesses that were probably included
         17    in that design mod.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Should it have been?  I mean is
         19    that -- I mean how does that comport with what you would
         20    expect other --
         21              MR. LANNING:  I wouldn't expect the PORC to be in
         22    a position to understand that level of detail engineering
         23    analysis.
         24              MR. IMBRO:  I have nothing to add.  I agree with
         25    Wayne.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I guess I want to just -- one
          2    last thing.
          3              I asked a question this morning having to do with
          4    engineering strength and to what extent this RSS issue
          5    relates to what strength and depth of insight there is in
          6    engineering.
          7              Can you make a comment?
          8              MR. IMBRO:  Well, maybe I can answer --
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
         10              MR. IMBRO:  -- try to answer that.
         11              Engineering was historically not a very strong
         12    organization.  I think we have seen in our two years at
         13    Millstone that it is substantially improved.
         14              I talked to a lot of the folks in the Engineering
         15    organization and also in the Oversight and other
         16    organizations, but specifically to the Engineering
         17    organization.  I think they acted in a reasonable manner.  I
         18    think they had analysis that supported the design, or at
         19    least they thought they did, and I think they had several
         20    consultants agree that the design seemed reasonable, so, you
         21    know, the fact that there was a failure I think is not
         22    necessarily a reflection on the Engineering organization,
         23    but I think they proceeded with reasonable information to go
         24    forward, so I would not consider the failure of the RSS
         25    bellows necessarily something that I would attribute to a
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          1    weakness in Engineering.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, you know, we talk about
          3    the PORC, we talk about Engineering, and we talk about the
          4    Oversight organization.  
          5              Where is the catch basin for a problem like this?
          6              MR. IMBRO:  Well, again I think it is a complex
          7    issue and to me I think that all organizations were involved
          8    that should have been.  Oversight certainly identified the
          9    issue.
         10              I think the testing people that got involved that
         11    also had questions that then in a sense prompted another,
         12    the Nuclear Materials Engineering Group, to go back to the
         13    vendor to get calculations, so I guess what I am trying to
         14    say is I think there is -- the process worked because all
         15    the organizations that were, that should have been involved
         16    ultimately got involved.1
         17              Could they have gotten involved sooner?  Possibly. 
         18    But I think that the fact that the modification was not
         19    totally approved, was being tested, you know, indicated that
         20    many organizations had some concerns.
         21              Is there one catch?  I think in this case maybe
         22    the fact that the Oversight identified the problem
         23    heightened the concerns of the other organizations possibly
         24    was the, quote, safety net, if you will, but I think that
         25    the appropriate organizations got involved and they acted in
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          1    a professional manner and they really worked to get the
          2    information they needed.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is this a significant system?
          4              MR. IMBRO:  Certainly.  Absolutely.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right, and so I guess again the
          6    question becomes you are convinced, you know, that with
          7    these various legs to the stool that there is sufficient
          8    strength that for system of this safety significance with
          9    problems of this complexity that there is robustness in the
         10    system to adequately address it?
         11              MR. IMBRO:  Well, the answer in my mind would be
         12    yes.
         13              MR. TRAVERS:  I think one question you might ask
         14    as a result of this event is, as was presented earlier,
         15    there were some nearly 200 physical modifications made to
         16    this plant while it's been shut down, and a reasonable
         17    question in the face of what is obviously not a nominal
         18    situation -- it would have been better if the design of what
         19    was done initially in the RSS resulted in the right answer
         20    the first time.  It didn't.  
         21              A critical question about that interaction is how
         22    well did the organizations work, and I think you have heard
         23    from us that we think even though they came out with the
         24    wrong answer the first time that the organizations that
         25    should have come into play did.
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          1              Unfortunately, it didn't come out correctly before
          2    the testing.  However, the other modifications that were
          3    made, some 186, nearly 200 modifications, the answers that I
          4    got when I asked the question of my inspectors in both them
          5    and the licensee is that there were no similar incidents of
          6    post-modification failures based on poor design that
          7    resulted from any of those modifications, so I think it
          8    obviously didn't result in an optimal conclusion in this
          9    instance.
         10              We have looked at it.  We think that it was not an
         11    obvious technical issue that should have been obvious to
         12    all -- you know, a very simple issue. Rather, it was a
         13    complex issue on cavitation and aspects of how you account
         14    for that cavitation, and unfortunately the wrong answer came
         15    out.
         16              The good news, if there is any here, is that the
         17    testing that was done ultimately found the issue and
         18    resulted in a fix that we have reviewed subsequently in some
         19    detail that we are asking Sargent & Lundy to look at in
         20    additional detail.
         21              We expect it will be determined to be an
         22    acceptable fix for what is a very important system --
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, look, look, look -- the
         24    Commission is dependent upon you --
         25              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  -- in this instance, okay?  And
          2    the question really is, you know, we need to have some
          3    baseline here and some understanding in two regards.
          4              One has to do with what I just asked, whether or
          5    not you feel there is sufficient robustness in the set-up
          6    with the various organizations and entities to deal
          7    adequately with problems in system of this safety
          8    significance if there are similar issues.
          9              But a kind of baseline one is what is reasonable
         10    to expect relative to this kind of issue with some other
         11    licensee that we think does an adequate job, and you have to
         12    tell us that.  You can't dance around the issue.  You have
         13    got to tell us that, and that is what I am asking you.
         14              MR. CALLAN:  Chairman, let me just provide -- I
         15    agree with the perspective that the process worked in this
         16    instance, but this is not good engineering.  I mean we can't
         17    sit here and tell you that that is an example of good
         18    engineering.  It is not.
         19              And the thing about this particular modification
         20    or this particular problem -- it was self-revealing.  It
         21    could be picked up with post-modification testing.
         22              I mean as you know from the types of issues that
         23    we deal with daily across the industry, we are worried more
         24    about the types of engineering --
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Not really.
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          1              MR. CALLAN:  -- flaws that are not self-revealing
          2    that you -- that are only manifested during design basis
          3    events.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.
          5              MR. CALLAN:  But you have to rely on analytical
          6    techniques --
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  That's right.
          8              MR. CALLAN:  -- to provide the protection.
          9              In this instance, testing turned up the problem.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  That's right.
         11              MR. CALLAN:  So it is an issue, clearly.  It is
         12    not a success story in that sense, but the process did work.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So what I am saying is as long
         14    as we focus on the particular system and the very fact that
         15    the testing can reveal what needed to be revealed, we're
         16    okay, but if we have a situation where that is not available
         17    or it is not self-revealing in that sense, then that is why
         18    I am asking you the question about the robustness of what is
         19    in place.
         20              MR. TRAVERS:  And our assessment of much more of
         21    what has occurred at Millstone in terms of engineering that
         22    has been completed including other modifications is what I
         23    was trying to allude to is that the engineering is adequate,
         24    is robust sufficient to justify the conclusions we are
         25    bringing forth today.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Commissioner Dicus?
          2              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  With regard to the
          3    recommendations that were made regarding the ECP and the
          4    SCWE there was qualification that everything -- a
          5    qualification that the third-party oversight should continue
          6    for some period of time.  Do you have any qualifications on
          7    your recommendations?
          8              MR. TRAVERS:  On our recommendations?
          9              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  On oversight and quality
         10    assurance.
         11              MR. TRAVERS:  Oh, I'm sorry.
         12              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Yes.
         13              MR. COLLINS:  I wasn't following your question.  I
         14    thought you were asking an ECP question.  Ask me again.
         15              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Fair enough.
         16              There was a qualification with the ECP, et cetera,
         17    that third-party oversight should follow for a while as a
         18    qualification to their recommendations, or at least that's
         19    how I perceived it.  Do you have any qualifications to your
         20    recommendations?
         21              MR. COLLINS:  No.  No qualifications.
         22              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Going back to Mr. Lanning,
         23    something that he said that I put back here.  I mean, it's
         24    piggy-backing on the Chairman's question, and you actually
         25    said that there was a weakness in the organization, you
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          1    know, in engineering at the time that it was done, and
          2    that's, you know, that's about the way it was expressed.
          3              The thing that I would like to go back to is do
          4    they know or they appear to know when there is a weakness
          5    that they need additional support?  And are there, you know,
          6    does their processes they set to seek the additional support
          7    that is needed when it is needed?
          8              MR. LANNING:  What you're talking about is a
          9    rigorous design control process.  That's what we're talking
         10    about here.  One of the weaknesses in this design was the
         11    independent verification of the calculations.  For example,
         12    simply assuring that the input, the assumptions are correct. 
         13    That didn't occur in this case.  It's a lesson learned, and
         14    I think the program -- design change program will benefit
         15    from that.
         16              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Okay.  I'm willing to accept
         17    that that happens.  It is not the first time or maybe the
         18    last time.  The question is are the processes in the system
         19    capable of realizing when there is that weakness to seek
         20    additional help.  That's the distinction.  Go beyond, you
         21    know --
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do they have a rigorous design
         23    control process, to use your terminology?
         24              MR. LANNING:  I think that's the answer.  They
         25    have just revised the design control manual, and they have
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          1    established a rigorous design control process, and the fact
          2    that they've gone and looked at the almost 200 previous
          3    modifications including the calculations provides some
          4    assurance that that process is working.
          5              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  All right.  Thank you.
          6              MR. COLLINS:  Commissioner Dicus, if I can just --
          7    excuse me.  If I can just be sure I'm clear on your question
          8    and the answer.  We have talked here about the Corrective
          9    Action Program and the 4500 process.  You have heard, and I
         10    think we would agree from previous presenters that that
         11    process needs to be tracked to the extent that we have
         12    confidence that it is in fact a robust program, particularly
         13    in the backlog area.  And I believe in a later presentation
         14    you will hear that we do believe that there is additional
         15    oversight.
         16              In fact, it's been suggested that there be
         17    unannounced inspections in those areas by one of the
         18    previous presenters.  We would not disagree with that.  We
         19    are of the view also that there needs to be an enhanced
         20    followup in the corrective action area in light of the
         21    disposition of the backlog.
         22              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Fair enough.
         23              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  I just want to make one
         24    point and ask one question.  The heart of what I'm hearing
         25    you say about this RSS issue is that the notion that -- I
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          1    think Mr. Del Core talked about freshman engineering
          2    knowledge -- that there was beyond freshman engineers at a
          3    typical college to have spotted this problem and said it's
          4    obvious and fix it.  You agree with the licensee that this
          5    was a complex issue that needed people to look at from
          6    several directions, and it's a disservice to characterize it
          7    as freshman engineering?
          8              MR. CALLAN:  Well, my experience, and I don't --
          9    correct me if I'm wrong, but I dealt in my experience in my
         10    NRC role overseeing a lot of utilities grappling with
         11    vibration problems and positioning of orifices and
         12    turning -- what they call tuning a system, positioning the
         13    orifice, some pretty strong engineering organizations, and
         14    some say it's more of an art than a science.  I don't know
         15    that.  But it -- I would not concede the point that it's not
         16    necessarily rocket science.  I don't know.  It's -- I don't
         17    think it's -- it's not necessarily easy to do.
         18              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  The question is we heard
         19    Captain Mendenhall talk earlier, and he was a part of this
         20    oversight organization, and his basic statement was that
         21    when he came up with problems in his audit role they were
         22    either trivialized, studied to death, or looked at narrowly
         23    as symptoms.  And the question I have for you is that that
         24    obviously isn't your general judgment or you wouldn't be
         25    making the conclusion you have at the moment.  How do you
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          1    fit his testimony in with your general judgment?
          2              MR. LANNING:  Well, I respect his comments and,
          3    you know, we've talked to him in detail about his concerns. 
          4    Quite candidly, oversight organization in its performance is
          5    not perfect.  Our Corrective Action Inspection Team found
          6    imperfections.  They found things that needed to be
          7    corrected.  But that didn't indicate that the oversight
          8    function itself is programmatically broken.  So there are
          9    weaknesses.  There's not a perfect organization.  They're
         10    continuing to identify deficiencies and identify
         11    improvements.  So I think it's part of the continuing
         12    improvement process.
         13              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  But if we were to survey
         14    the employees in the oversight department, what percentage
         15    would agree with Captain Mendenhall that their concerns are
         16    trivialized.  We had one testify earlier, at least
         17    somebody -- but is this -- this is not the typical
         18    situation, I assume.
         19              MR. LANNING:  I'd be speculating to try to guess
         20    how many oversight employees would say that.  But through
         21    our inspections, and we've looked at oversight in a number
         22    of avenues, and corrective actions even more broadly, we're
         23    finding that the process is functioning adequately.  There
         24    are warts.  There are imperfections.  There are still
         25    findings on the part of NRC.  That's what we would expect. 
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          1    But overall the program is functioning.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  When you say, Mr. Lanning, the
          3    program is functioning, do you mean people go through the
          4    steps they should or that the outcomes are what they should
          5    be?
          6              MR. LANNING:  I mean that the oversight
          7    organization is involved, it's respected, it's performing
          8    its function according to our requirements, they're going
          9    beyond that and asserting themselves into the process. 
         10    They're adding value to the quality of the work being done.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         12              Mr. Imbro, you were going to make a comment
         13    earlier?
         14              MR. IMBRO:  I just was going to add that we had
         15    also inspected the design control manual, the new design
         16    control manual as a part of ICVP in that year, year 3
         17    inspection, and I thought we found that the manual itself
         18    was pretty comprehensive.  Of course it has to be
         19    implemented properly.  But the manual itself we thought was
         20    pretty solid.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Again, all I'm going to
         22    leave is a question, and it's an implicit -- I mean a
         23    comment that it's an implicit question.  And that is that
         24    again one can look at programs, processes, does everybody
         25    take the steps he or she should take.  But in the end what
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          1    matters is the outcome, and I guess what I'm trying to
          2    understand from you is in terms of outcome relative to
          3    ensuring that safety-significant systems can be -- that if a
          4    design change is made that in the end the right thing is
          5    done, or if there's a problem, the problem is resolved.  You
          6    have comfort in that regard.  I'm not interested in whether
          7    a program is in place.
          8              MR. TRAVERS:  Right.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I'm not interested in whether
         10    people go through the steps of the process.  I'm interested
         11    in the outcome.  And so what are you going to tell me?
         12              MR. TRAVERS:  And that is in fact exactly the
         13    right focus.  It's the focus that we've taken in our
         14    inspection activities, and we're here to tell you that in
         15    the areas that we're addressing today that the outcomes,
         16    whether it be in oversight and the effectiveness of
         17    oversight, for example, in stopping work, that -- or mode
         18    changes to make sure that work is done correctly, in the
         19    area of the effective functioning currently of ECP and SEWE
         20    that our conclusions are based in fact on our best
         21    assessment of that factor as a principal one, and we do look
         22    at programs, we do look at how they're structured, we do
         23    look at whether or not they're programs that can be used
         24    effectively, but in addition to that, and perhaps even most
         25    importantly, as you suggested, Chairman, our look-see is
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          1    focused on those very outcomes that you've made reference
          2    to.
          3              And when we talk to you in the next Commission 
          4    meeting it will be even more apparent. 
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  That's very important
          6    because you know my mantra. 
          7              MR. CALLAN:  Right. 
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Programs are as programs do;
          9    right? 
         10              MR. CALLAN:  I've heard that before. 
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.  Okay.  
         12              MR. TRAVERS:  The last issue that we wanted to
         13    address with the Commission today has to do with backlog
         14    management.  The size and composition of the licensee's
         15    post-restart backlog are issues that were addressed by the
         16    Chairman at out last Commission meeting and in a subsequent
         17    staff requirements memo by the Commission.  Although
         18    backlogs are expected at restart and historically at
         19    Millstone the licensee has not been effective in assuring
         20    that work is effectively completed and completed in a timely
         21    way.  Given this historical issue the staff has been closely
         22    monitoring the licensee's effort to improve it's programs
         23    relative to corrective actions, work planning and control. 
         24    In fact, the staff has identified improvements in these
         25    areas as fundamental elements of our restart assessment
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          1    plan.  We're going to address corrective actions, per se, in
          2    its many elements in detail at our next Commission meeting
          3    and also work planning control. 
          4              But with regard to the backlog specifically, we
          5    have identified the following issues as key to an assessment
          6    of our view or restart readiness.  And those issues are the
          7    following, have the work items that need to be accomplished,
          8    have they been classified appropriately as either required
          9    before restart or appropriately deferrable.  And the second
         10    question is, for those items that are appropriate to defer,
         11    does the licensee have a plan to complete that work in a
         12    reasonably timely fashion.  So that's the way I'm going to
         13    approach this presentation.
         14              Next slide, please?
         15              To address the first issue we issued a letter -- a
         16    demand for information under 5054(f) about a year ago that
         17    required the licensee to submit a number of things.  They
         18    required them to submit a detailed list of all of the items
         19    that they identified as required prior to restart.  It
         20    required the licensee to submit a detailed listing of items
         21    that they viewed as deferrable until after restart.  It
         22    required them to submit their process and their rationale
         23    for making those judgments.  And, lastly, it required them
         24    to provide us with an overall assessment of why they believe
         25    they meet their license basis and the regulations and the
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          1    FSAR.
          2              The licensee has responded to each one of these
          3    items and we've been providing -- and they have been in fact
          4    providing us periodic updates of these lists of deferrable
          5    or required before restart work items.
          6              Next slide, please?
          7              In order to evaluate both the process and the
          8    criteria being used to categorize deferrable issues and the
          9    licensee's implementation of the process, the NRC staff has
         10    carried out four inspectors, actually with the recent
         11    completion of the OSTI, you can count it as five.  We have
         12    not issued report, however.  We've issued two of those four
         13    inspection reports.  The first inspection assessed the
         14    licensee's process and concluded that it appropriately
         15    conservative.  To give you a sense of that the process that
         16    they are using requires that for items to be deferred they
         17    can't have anything to do with corrective actions to conform
         18    with licensing or design basis.  They must not be associated
         19    with any support to at tech spec change and they can't be
         20    issues that are important to a determination of operability
         21    for a maintenance group one or two system.  So anything
         22    associated with those kinds of issues are put in the pre-
         23    restart bin.  
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Can you comment on the status
         25    of the deferred item on the RHR system that we discussed at
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          1    the February meeting? 
          2              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes, that issue had just been
          3    identified and it came up and it was fairly prominent and
          4    the discussion that we had with the Commission the last
          5    time, the NRC in -- I guess it was our April inspection
          6    identified this as an issue that we thought might need to be
          7    put on -- rather than deferrable list, the restart list. 
          8    And the licensee has subsequently agreed with that and has
          9    actually made the fix to mini-flow line in the RHR system
         10    which results in elimination, we believe, and agree with, a
         11    potential for a cycling of that valve which could result in
         12    a misfunctioning of that very important system. 
         13              Whether or not that misfunction would have
         14    occurred given the situation, it is not determinant, but
         15    nevertheless they've taken the steps to provide additional
         16    assurance that it won't.  And so that's a corrective action
         17    that's actually been implemented. 
         18              The inspections that we've completed have included
         19    a review of all of the deferred items, the descriptions for
         20    each one of those many items.  We've looked in more detail
         21    based on a smart sample at about 1,000 items on that list,
         22    and we've asked questions and we followed up on assessing
         23    whether or not the implementation of their process was
         24    effective in identifying items that really should be
         25    completed prior to restart.  And the results of those
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          1    inspections indicated that in about ten instances items of
          2    the 1,000 or so that we looked at in some detail were
          3    required to effect the change.
          4              Now, the conclusion we reached relative to the
          5    significance of those things not being on the restart items
          6    list is that none of them really posed a very significant
          7    issue if they had remained, in fact, on the deferred list. 
          8    Nevertheless, in about 1 percent of the instances, you know,
          9    we took issue with their judgement on how they classified
         10    those items.
         11              Next slide, please?
         12              In order to determine the extent of the licensee's
         13    planning and programs to complete deferrable work in a
         14    timely fashion after restart, we asked the licensee to
         15    commit -- to submit a backlog management plan and they've
         16    done that and you've heard some discussion of it here today. 
         17    An objective of our review was to determine if the agency
         18    should establish some level of additional regulatory
         19    requirement, an order or a CAL, for example, to provide some
         20    added assurance that the backlog would in fact, given the
         21    history of Millstone be addressed in a reasonable timeframe.
         22              The plan which they have submitted provides
         23    certain commitments.  It is essentially, though, a
         24    methodology and a process framework, along with a statement
         25    of targets and goals for addressing deferrable items for
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          1    restart.
          2              This slide characterizes the fact that their plan
          3    includes a characterization and breakdown of deferred works,
          4    a listing of functional requirements which they've
          5    developed.  Again, these targets and goals, and as has been
          6    mentioned earlier, certain commitments for reporting to NRC
          7    on performance indicators and updates on progress that they
          8    make or don't make in addressing these issues.  
          9              Although firm commitments are not provided in
         10    their plan, they have targets, they have goals, they've
         11    indicated intent to disposition all of this work prior to
         12    restarting for the next refueling outage which would be
         13    about 10 or 11 months from now.  We believe that a number of
         14    things add up to provide confidence that this is a
         15    reasonable plan.
         16              Number one, the fact that they have relatively
         17    conservative threshold for identifying the work that needs
         18    to be done before restart, the fact that we've reviewed that
         19    and have found that in most instances they've appropriately
         20    applied it, also the fact that they have in fact already
         21    completed a relatively large fraction of deferrable work, I
         22    think you heard something like 6,000 of 10,000 deferrable
         23    items.  Oh, no, I'm sorry, 60 percent, I forget what the
         24    number is.  But about 60 percent of deferrable work that has
         25    already been completed in the course of this current outage.
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          1              Combine that with the commitments that they've
          2    made to provide us on a quarterly basis with detailed
          3    program on their disposition of these items leads us to
          4    conclude that this is a reasonable plan, it can -- it
          5    doesn't have to, but it can be implemented effectively.
          6              It might not implemented effectively.  It provides
          7    a series of targets and goals and combined with the
          8    commitments to provide us with progress reports, we think it
          9    provides a reasonable approach given the significance or
         10    lack of significance of these kinds of issues.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Does it require a CAL?
         12              MR. TRAVERS:  We believe, and I will ask for the
         13    next slide, that based on the items that I just mentioned,
         14    we don't think a CAL at least at this time is something that
         15    we would recommend to the Commission.
         16              We would, however, as Sam indicated, we would
         17    however recommend that in the context of assuring not only
         18    that the backlog is dispositioned effectively but that the
         19    broader question of Corrective Action Program implementation
         20    is successfully implemented after restart that the Staff
         21    plan to carry out another 40-500 team inspection in this
         22    area, and that is what we are planning to do within about a
         23    year to assure that the follow-through in these areas, both
         24    in terms of the backlog management and the Corrective Action
         25    Program, be checked.
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          1              This is a bit of a checkpoint, if you will, for
          2    establishing whether or not the follow-through has been
          3    adequate.
          4              Really, this recognizes what we started with and
          5    that is a historical problem associated with a program that
          6    has not in the past been very effective at completing work,
          7    getting backlogs down appropriately and so forth.
          8              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes, Dr. Travers.  Getting at
          9    the conclusion in here, maybe you can clarify for me, based
         10    on our criteria of adequate protection of health and safety,
         11    how is the determination made whether 1000 items are
         12    adequate or 10 or 2000.  What do we use as the criteria to
         13    establish that, yes, it is okay or is not okay to defer
         14    certain items?
         15              MR. TRAVERS:  I think in response to your question
         16    that a quantitative answer is something that is probably
         17    elusive.
         18              More importantly would be an assessment of the
         19    process -- what kinds of items, for example, is the licensee
         20    deferring?  In the aggregate, can they be viewed as
         21    significant enough to warrant some level of concern, and I
         22    think what you are hearing from us today is that even with
         23    the 4000-5000 items that they have identified as deferable,
         24    that we believe that the threshold they have used is a
         25    conservative one which really results in most -- any safety
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          1    significant work being done before restart.
          2              For example, as I mentioned, all of the issues
          3    that need to be done to address conformance with the
          4    licensing or design basis are pre-restart items.  That
          5    captures a lot of material that might potentially be
          6    deferable, in some sense, on purely safety --
          7              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  So quality implies safety.
          8              MR. TRAVERS:  I think so.
          9              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Thank you.
         10              MR. TRAVERS:  So our conclusion, which I will just
         11    roll off, is that we think that they have made reasonable
         12    determinations of what is on the restart list versus the
         13    backlog list.  
         14              We think that their plan, while it doesn't provide
         15    firm commitments, does provide a process that can work and
         16    combine that with the commitments they have made to keep us
         17    informed of their progress and combined that with our
         18    planned follow-through inspection to assess both corrective
         19    actions and the backlog renders this issue sufficient to
         20    come to the Commission and argue that it is supportable for
         21    a restart decision.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.  Commissioner Dicus? 
         23    Commissioner Diaz?  Commissioner McGaffigan?  Well --
         24              MR. CALLAN:  Commissioner, we have two more
         25    slides -- if you would just bear with us.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  
          2              MR. CALLAN:  And I will be very brief but I think
          3    this is somewhat of a segue to the next meeting that we
          4    have.
          5              Just to quickly lay out what is before us, before
          6    we meet again on Millstone, first of all, first and foremost
          7    the independent corrective action verification program will
          8    need to be substantially completed for Unit 3 -- clearly.
          9              We have not yet received the final Sargent & Lundy
         10    report and, Gene, we are due to get the interim report next
         11    week?  Is that right?
         12              MR. IMBRO:  Yes, on May 5th.
         13              MR. CALLAN:  But additionally there is about 80,
         14    plus or minus about 80 ICAVP issues that have yet to be
         15    resolved by either Sargent & Lundy or the licensee, so those
         16    have to be resolved and once that is done the Staff, the NRC
         17    Staff can then review the manner in which the licensee's
         18    Corrective Action Program dealt with those issues.
         19              While we do that, we are also completing the next
         20    bullet there, which is our assessment of the licensee's
         21    Corrective Action Program.
         22              And as was mentioned earlier we have yet to
         23    complete our assessment of the results of the Operational
         24    Safety Team Inspection, the OSTI.  In fact, the exit is also
         25    May 5, isn't it, next Tuesday, and there'll be an exit at
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          1    the site open for public observation.
          2              What time is that going to be?
          3              MR. LANNING:  One o'clock.  One o'clock.
          4              MR. CALLAN:  One o'clock at the site.  So at that
          5    time the staff will formally present its findings, its OSTI
          6    findings.  The report will follow obviously.  There will be
          7    a lot -- even after the exit we'll still be assessing what
          8    it all means and root causes and that sort of thing.  So
          9    we'll be reporting out on that at the next meeting.
         10              If you add all -- and then finally I guess, the
         11    paperwork.  We owe you all another report similar to the one
         12    that we gave you to support this meeting summarizing our
         13    conclusions and recommendations relative to the outstanding
         14    issues.  All of that, if you add it up, looks like a minimum
         15    three to four weeks to do all that, and that's if the
         16    licensee's progress continues on the track it's on.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Now you're done.
         18              Thank you very much, and I would like to thank
         19    Northeast Utilities, Little Harbor Consultants, the public
         20    officials, and members of interest groups and the public,
         21    and the NRC staff for briefing the Commission on the
         22    progress in assessing the readiness for restart of Millstone
         23    Unit 3.
         24              And once again I will state on behalf of the
         25    Commission that we recognize how difficult it is to condense
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          1    the subject -- the substance of either the reviews performed
          2    by each of you or in the case of the public your comments
          3    and evaluations into briefings like this.  And that is the
          4    primary reason that the NRC in November 1996 created the
          5    Special Projects Office, to provide for direct oversight of
          6    all licensing and inspection activities and to tailor the
          7    NRC's staff guidelines for restart approval to address
          8    specifically deficiencies at the Millstone units.
          9              Now I want to reassure the public especially that
         10    the Commission as a consequence of making the Millstone
         11    units Category 3 plants in June of 1996 took on the
         12    responsibility of a more careful monitoring of these plants. 
         13    To that end we have relied on the Special Projects Office. 
         14    We have had regular meetings, and we do receive and read the
         15    personal correspondence from the public to our offices, and
         16    we consider it all part of the Millstone record for our
         17    deliberations and evaluations for restart readiness.  And we
         18    do appreciate your input.
         19              And as I state at each meeting, the Commission
         20    does not presuppose any of the plants will restart by a
         21    specific date, but it does depend upon the various
         22    evaluations being done and receipt of the documentation of
         23    that from the staff, as well as from the licensee and other
         24    parties involved.
         25              The Commission is primarily concerned with
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          1    ensuring that if and when the Millstone Station restarts, it
          2    is a safe station with an effective Corrective Action
          3    Program and with an environment supportive of the public,
          4    but especially the employees raising and that there is
          5    adequate and appropriate resolution of safety concerns.
          6              Now with regard to the schedule for the next
          7    Commission meeting on Millstone, I can only reiterate as I
          8    stated in my opening comments that the Commission will
          9    schedule the meeting as promptly as possible following
         10    receipt and assessment of the progress reports from the NRC
         11    staff.
         12              And so unless my colleagues have any closing
         13    comments, I want to thank you again, and since you talked
         14    about till we meet again, at the risk of dating myself, I
         15    say, "Happy trails to you."
         16              [Whereupon, at 4:33 p.m., the briefing was
         17    concluded.]
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