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          1                      UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
          2                    NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
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          4             MEETING WITH NORTHEAST NUCLEAR ON MILLSTONE
          5                                 ***
          6                           PUBLIC MEETING
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          9                             Nuclear Regulatory Commission
         10                             Commission Hearing Room
         11                             11555 Rockville Pike
         12                             Rockville, Maryland
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         14                             Thursday, February 19, 1998
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         16              The Commission met in open session, pursuant to
         17    notice, at 9:30 a.m., the Honorable SHIRLEY A. JACKSON,
         18    Chairman of the Commission, presiding.
         19
         20    COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
         21              SHIRLEY A. JACKSON, Chairman of the Commission
         22              GRETA J. DICUS, Member of the Commission
         23              NILS J. DIAZ, Member of the Commission
         24              EDWARD McGAFFIGAN, JR., Member of the Commission
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          1    STAFF AND PRESENTERS SEATED AT COMMISSION TABLE:
          2              MIKE MORRIS, Chairman, President and CEO,
          3                Northeast Utilities
          4              BRUCE KENYON, President and CEO, Northeast Nuclear
          5                Energy Company
          6              DAVE GOEBEL, Vice President, Nuclear Oversight
          7              MIKE BROTHERS, Vice President, Nuclear Operations
          8              MARTIN BOWLING, Vice President, Unit 2
          9              DAVID AMERINE, Vice President, Human Services
         10              BRIAN ERLER, Senior Vice President, ICAVP Project
         11                Director, Sargent & Lundy
         12              DON SCHOPFER, Vice President and Verification
         13                Manager, Sargent & Lundy
         14              DAN CURRY, Vice President, Nuclear Services,
         15                Parsons Power
         16              ERIC BLOCHER, Deputy Project Director, Parsons
         17                Power
         18              JOHN GRIFFIN, Deputy Team Leader, Little Harbor
         19                Consultants
         20              JOHN BECK, President, Little Harbor Consultants
         21              BILLIE GARDE, Consultant
         22              L. JOSEPH CALLAN, EDO
         23              DR. WILLIAM TRAVERS, Director, Special Projects
         24                Office, NRR
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          2    [continued]
          3              WAYNE LANNING, Deputy Director for Inspections,
          4                SPO, NRR
          5              PHILLIP McKEE, Deputy Director for Licensing and
          6                Oversight, SPO, NRR
          7              EUGENE IMBRO, Deputy Director for ICAVP, SPO, NRR
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          1                        P R O C E E D I N G S
          2                                                     [9:30 a.m.]
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good morning, ladies and
          4    gentlemen.
          5              The purpose of this meeting is for the Commission
          6    to be briefed on the status of activities related to the
          7    three Millstone nuclear power reactors.
          8              The Commission will hear presentations today from
          9    Northeast Utilities, Northeast Nuclear; contractors
         10    associated with both the independent corrective verification
         11    program; and employees concerns program; and the NRC staff.
         12              Millstone Unit 1 has been shut down for over 27
         13    months; Units 2 and 3 for approximately two years now.  All
         14    three of the Millstone units were placed on the NRC's watch
         15    list in January 1996.  The units were recategorized as
         16    category 3 plants in June 1996.  This action necessitates
         17    Commission approval for restart of each of the units.
         18              This Commission meeting is the fifth quarterly
         19    meeting to assess the status of activities at the sites. 
         20    This meeting was scheduled two months after the last meeting
         21    in order for the Commission to better assess the results of
         22    some of the significant inspections that recently have
         23    occurred or are in process now.
         24              In the interest of maintaining our schedule, I
         25    will keep my opening comments short.  I have recently
            
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          1    visited the Millstone site and conducted a public meeting
          2    while I was there in the evening to listen first-hand to
          3    comments and statements and concerns of the various members
          4    of the local community and other stakeholders.  I have made
          5    available at the entrances to the meeting my comments from
          6    this public meeting on February 2nd, 1998.
          7              The Commission is interested in status updates
          8    from all participants today to gauge how the licensee is
          9    measuring and tracking its progress, and as I stated at the
         10    last Coimmission meeting, to understand how well the site is
         11    functioning as a whole.
         12              Once again, all parties should feel not only
         13    invited to but compelled to comment on questions asked of
         14    any group.  But if your turn at the table has passed, I ask
         15    that you use the podium as necessary.
         16              Copies of the presentation material are available
         17    at the entrances to the meeting, and unless my colleagues
         18    have any opening comments, Mr. Morris, please proceed.
         19              MR. MORRIS:  Thank you, Chairman Jackson and
         20    colleagues.  Thanks for being here.  It's nice for us to
         21    come back and give you this update.  We are here to
         22    represent the company.  We have with us members of our board
         23    of trustees as well as the chair of our nuclear committee,
         24    oversight group, and we are happy that they are here to be
         25    with us today.  What we intend to do today with Mr. Kenyon
            
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          1    and his team is to update you on the results that continue
          2    to be evaluated at the Millstone station.  In fact, some
          3    indicators aren't as good as we had hoped that they would
          4    be, and we will talk about that.  Fortunately, some
          5    indicators are much better than we thought they would be,
          6    and we will surely talk about that as well.
          7              But as we go through this -- and I know from your
          8    trip at the site, I hope that you will sense the feeling of
          9    the people of this station and the positive attitude that is
         10    beginning to grow at the station as we get nearer and nearer
         11    what we hope to be the opportunity to bring the stations
         12    back on line, Unit 3 in particular.
         13              We -- I felt very strongly about one of the
         14    comments you made at that meeting when you looked at the
         15    people in the audience that night and said that your
         16    decision, along with your colleagues', would be based on
         17    results, and that the results were up to the people in that
         18    audience which, as you will remember, was surely dominated
         19    by Millstone people.  That was an excellent comment because
         20    it's those people who are going to get this job done for us. 
         21    And we will give you that data as quickly and succinctly as
         22    we can and as straightforwardly as we can.  So we appreciate
         23    this opportunity to come back and give you that update.
         24              With that, I will turn it over to Bruce.
         25              MR. KENYON:  Good morning.  The purpose of our
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          1    presentation is to highlight the progress that has been made
          2    in preparing for the restart of Unit 3, to review the
          3    criteria we intend to utilize as the basis of our restart
          4    affirmation, and this is new to the briefing book, to
          5    discuss our most important remaining issues -- these include
          6    our efforts to progress toward establishing a
          7    safety-conscious work environment, and Dave Amerine, who is
          8    the officer who integrates safety-conscious work
          9    environment, human resources and training matters, reporting
         10    to Mike Brothers, will brief you on that.  And other matters
         11    are approaching completion of demonstrating compliance with
         12    the Unit 3 design and licensing basis, Marty Bowling will
         13    brief you on this topic as well as the topic of corrective
         14    action.  And Mike Brothers will discuss progress toward
         15    achieving Unit 3 restart readiness.
         16              Certainly I want to have oversight briefly update
         17    you regarding its assessment of our restart readiness, and
         18    that will be done by Dave Goebel.
         19              We plan to focus on Unit 3 and site issues
         20    relating to Unit 3, but we are prepared to address questions
         21    on other units, should you desire.
         22              We have provided considerable information to you
         23    in advance of the meeting, in the form of both the briefing
         24    book and copies of the slides for presentation.  For the
         25    most part, the format and content are similar to what you
            
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          1    have received previously.  We added the description in
          2    considerable substance regarding the long-term improvement
          3    plan.  We revised a few of the indicators to more clearly
          4    display our status, and in so doing, to eliminate some
          5    previous apparent discrepancies between what we were
          6    describing as our progress and the data as displayed by your
          7    indicator.  We substantially expanded the executive summary
          8    with the objective of that being a much more comprehensive
          9    presentation of our current state of readiness prognosis and
         10    issues.
         11              We did not make any changes to the slides after
         12    their transmittal to you.  Your admonishment from the last
         13    meeting was very clear and understood, and we trust that
         14    this information and these adjustments have been helpful to
         15    you.
         16              The balance of my portion of the presentation will
         17    be devoted to highlighting certain items from the executive
         18    summary.
         19              This slide shows four of the eight criteria to be
         20    used by NU as a basis for affirming restart readiness.  Now
         21    these criteria were discussed in some detail in the
         22    executive summary of the briefing book, two of the four, and
         23    these deal with root causes as well as self-assessment
         24    corrective action.  We view these as currently satisfactory. 
         25    The other two, compliance with the licensing and design
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          1    bases and safety-conscious work environment, are tracking to
          2    satisfactory.  These topics will be covered later in more
          3    detailed presentations.
          4              This next slide shows the remaining four criteria. 
          5    Unit and station readiness are tracking to satisfactory, and
          6    will be discussed in subsequent presentations.  Management
          7    controls and oversight are satisfactory and, of course,
          8    restart affirmation is pending.
          9              Now this slide and the next summarize the progress
         10    we have made in addressing the seven success objectives and
         11    the associated 16 key sitewide issues.  These have been
         12    discussed in previous briefings and are an essential part of
         13    our recovery strategy.
         14              I am pleased to report that of the 16 issues, nine
         15    now meet our success criteria for start-up readiness.  This
         16    is a net improvement of three since our last meeting to have
         17    reached satisfactory for restart.  And on this particular
         18    slide, emergency planning, self-assessment and corrective
         19    action for Unit 3 all move to a satisfactory status.
         20              However, based on having identified an adverse
         21    trend on procedure adherence, particularly pertaining to
         22    administrative procedures, the status of procedure quality
         23    adherence was reduced from satisfactory to tracking to
         24    satisfactory, and we expect to have this resolved by the end
         25    of the month.
            
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          1              This next slide shows the remaining issues.  The
          2    one significant change on this slide from last time is that
          3    environmental compliance moved to satisfactory.  The other
          4    five issues are tracking to satisfactory for February.
          5              Now I particularly want to comment on training,
          6    which I had expected to reach satisfactory by the end of
          7    January.  Progress has not met expectations.
          8              Further, as a result of a management assessment
          9    followed by an investigation, it was determined that with
         10    regard to in-process training for the shift technical
         11    advisors, the requirements of a systems approach to training
         12    were not rigorously followed, and there were instances of
         13    improper documentation.
         14              Now these are significant issues, we are
         15    addressing these issues, management changes have been made,
         16    and we are committed to achieving the proper standards, but
         17    we do not expect this matter to affect the Unit 3 recovery
         18    schedule.
         19              Now this slide indicates what I believe are the
         20    most important remaining challenges to bring Unit 3 to
         21    restart readiness.  Now the first is to complete the process
         22    of establishing a safety-conscious work environment.  There
         23    is one remaining criterion, that is the timely recognition
         24    and effective response to problems.  This was identified as
         25    a key challenge at our last briefing, and while we have
            
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          1    taken a number of important steps to strengthen performance,
          2    the entire situation is overshadowed by a recent
          3    high-profile event, the use of an inappropriate phrase in
          4    working papers, and that situation is still in progress.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me stop you for a second
          6    with respect to that, and ask you the following question. 
          7    And I realize that, as you say, it's still in progress, and
          8    I assume by that you mean that you are still investigating
          9    or looking into it.  But given the level from which it came,
         10    or the level at which it was signed off, did you ever give
         11    any thought to having a work standdown to just directly
         12    address the issue and to solicit your employees' thoughts
         13    about that?  Given that, you know, you have had the intense
         14    focus on physical readiness of the plant for restart, in
         15    terms of what message this might have sent to your employees
         16    about your level of concern in terms of what chilling effect
         17    it may have had even if it had been inadvertent?
         18              MR. KENYON:  What we have done, Chairman Jackson,
         19    is add a number of site meetings.  I don't know that they'd
         20    necessarily be classified as everybody at one point in time,
         21    but we responded right away with meetings, both in oversight
         22    and elsewhere on the site.  We got together all of
         23    supervision.  We communicated, not just verbally but in
         24    writing, not just to our employees and the entire site work
         25    force but also to the public, that that particular phrase
            
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          1    --which was not really signed out -- what this was was a
          2    working paper developed to describe strengths and weaknesses
          3    in the oversight organization.  It was a work in progress. 
          4    The next step in the process was for that to be discussed
          5    with first-line supervisors and above in oversight, and they
          6    correctly said that phrase is inappropriate.  And so that
          7    was good, and we have done a review for chilling effect, and
          8    we have determined that there is none, which I think speaks
          9    well not just to the fact that there is not a chilling
         10    effect, but it also speaks to the growing resilience of the
         11    work force, and that something that can happen, and we now
         12    have an environment where there's a lot greater trust than
         13    what there used to be.
         14              Now I am not in any way saying this wasn't a
         15    serious event.  We are conducting an investigation; it has
         16    resulted in a verbal debrief to me yesterday.  I expect a
         17    written report in about two weeks.  This is taking somewhat
         18    longer than I would like, and that may be the basis of some
         19    criticism, but I want to underscore the following --
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  In terms of your verbal
         21    debrief, are there any preliminary conclusions that you are
         22    willing to share with the Commission?
         23              MR. KENYON:  Chairman Jackson, with all due
         24    respect, I think this is not the time and the place to
         25    indicate the conclusions.  This is an extremely important
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          1    matter.  The integrity of the organization and certain
          2    people's careers are at stake.  It is very important that I
          3    get the facts, and while I have a verbal debrief, the issues
          4    in this are complicated; it's taken longer than I thought,
          5    because as the investigation was accomplished, there were
          6    certain conflicts in what was said by people giving their
          7    views that required a second round of interviews in some
          8    cases, and even in some cases it went to a third round.
          9              While I have certain thoughts in my mind as to
         10    what the ultimate outcome is going to be, I feel that given
         11    the importance of this, there are certain things I want to
         12    see written down.  In other words, the investigator who has
         13    done this has -- yes, he's given a verbal debrief, but he
         14    also needs to write up the investigation results with each
         15    principal witness.  He needs to take all that information
         16    --        CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  That's fine.
         17              On February the 10th, the NRC sent you a letter
         18    requesting within 30 days your response to several questions
         19    related to chilling effect, enforcement under 50.7.  You
         20    intend then to fold the results of this investigation into
         21    answering that under-oath-and-affirmation letter?
         22              MR. KENYON:  Absolutely.
         23              Another challenge is to complete the process of
         24    demonstrating compliance with the design and licensing
         25    bases.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me stop you again, because
          2    I feel that I want to get all the issues onto the table here
          3    right from the beginning.  You know, I have just read and
          4    had a short briefing on -- and all of the Commissioners have
          5    copies -- of an event notification on Millstone 3 that the
          6    NRC has just received, and I believe, you know, we have to
          7    try to be as open and straightforward about this as we can,
          8    not to blind-side you, but presumably you know about it
          9    since it was a notification that came from your station.
         10              But the notification, at least on the surface,
         11    appears troubling for numerous reasons.  It states that a
         12    condition could occur that could result in the failure of
         13    the heat removal -- residual heat removal pump due to
         14    inadequate cooling, and that since both pumps have a similar
         15    design, this could lead to a common mode failure.
         16              Now from my briefing, I understand that a
         17    motor-operated valve on the recirc line of the RHR pump
         18    senses a pressure spike on pump start which closes the
         19    valve, and that an emergency work request was initiated, and
         20    that a subsequent test confirmed the problem, but the issue
         21    in the emergency work request was placed on the deferral
         22    list, that is for work to be done post-restart, but that,
         23    you know, NRC review of the deferrable items list questioned
         24    this condition, resulting in further review by you, and this
         25    event notification.
            
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          1              I guess I have a couple of questions I just want
          2    to walk through with you, if you would.
          3              When was the original testing completed?
          4              MR. KENYON:  I am going to have to refer to Mike
          5    Brothers.
          6              MR. BROTHERS:  The original condition was actually
          7    discovered in the 1986-'87 time frame for the cycling on the
          8    alpha train.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And when were subsequent tests
         10    performed?
         11              MR. BROTHERS:  The subsequent tests were performed
         12    about six weeks ago.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And can you tell me a little
         14    bit more about your reasons for placing it on the deferred
         15    items list and was it reexamined after these subsequent
         16    testing failures?
         17              MR. BROTHERS:  Yes.  The condition occurs -- was
         18    conservatively reported as potentially affecting both trains
         19    because the logic of the arrangement is the same between the
         20    two trains.  It's only observed on one train primarily
         21    because of the location of the orifice that develops the
         22    differential pressure that inputs to this signal to the
         23    recirculation valve that you correctly described.
         24              The event that actually has to occur is a break of
         25    particular size -- in other words, a break that stabilizes
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          1    at a reactor coolant system pressure, at a fairly low level
          2    below the injection point of residual heat removal at about
          3    450 pounds, but high enough such that you can get into a
          4    cycling mode.
          5              Effectively what's postulated here is that the
          6    valve closes based upon a pulse across this orifice, and
          7    then when it times out, and by the time it reopens, it once
          8    again sees the same type of condition if the break size has
          9    caused the reactor coolant system to stabilize at a
         10    particular pressure.
         11              We had contacted the nuclear steam system
         12    supplying vendor and asked for the probability of a break of
         13    this size.  It is considered a very low probability that a
         14    particular break of this size would in fact occur, but if
         15    you postulate this particular break size, you can get into a
         16    cycling mode which causes a potential of a thermal overload
         17    failure, and then the valve could fail either open or
         18    closed.  And depending upon reactor coolant system pressure,
         19    if it's a high pressure, the valve failing closed is the
         20    worst case because then the pump doesn't have enough flow to
         21    keep it cool.  If it's a very low pressure, the valve
         22    failing open is a problem because you could be robbing flow
         23    that should be going into the core in this condition.
         24              So depending upon reactor coolant system pressure,
         25    the valve failure mode is worse, depending whether it's open
             
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          1    or closed was really indeterminate.  We did go back and look
          2    at it based upon questions from the Nuclear Regulatory
          3    Commission and sent out the prompt report yesterday.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How would you assess this in
          5    terms of significance level?
          6              MR. BROTHERS:  I don't yet have all the details. 
          7    I think it's very significant.  We are in fact going to look
          8    at it very hard from a process standpoint.  We think it's a
          9    low probability event.  I believe that that would be
         10    concurred upon.  However, it appears that it may have been
         11    narrowly assessed from the standpoint of the recirculation
         12    valve cycling which we have normally seen as once.  We have
         13    never -- of course, we have never had a break in this
         14    condition, but what you normally see is the valve cycle, it
         15    was considered a nuisance, and evaluated as such.  It was
         16    probably too narrow of an evaluation.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you feel this indicates some
         18    potential vulnerability in your corrective action program,
         19    at least with respect to effective root cause and timeliness
         20    of resolution?  You indicated that the original testing was
         21    back in the 1986 time frame.
         22              MR. BROTHERS:  The condition that I described has
         23    been known for some time.  It was just simply treated as a
         24    nuisance.  This arrangement is generic for Westinghouse
         25    plants.  It may be a Part 21 issue associated with
            
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          1    Westinghouse.  So we knew about it, we have dealt with it
          2    for some length of time on a fairly narrow basis.  I think
          3    from the standpoint of the deferrable items list, that we
          4    need to take a look from lessons learned on this one as
          5    well.
          6              MR. KENYON:  But just to emphasize, Chairman
          7    Jackson, we are talking about a situation where a very low
          8    probability event, some -- and I'm not trying to argue this,
          9    but some believe it's not even a credible event, and
         10    certainly once the possibility of the broader interaction
         11    was identified, we have gone forward from there.  So we are
         12    talking about something that is low probability, but
         13    certainly we want to be conservative about it, and certainly
         14    once it's identified, we want to thoroughly pursue it.  It's
         15    not, as Mike Brothers indicated, it's not an issue that's
         16    unique to us, we think.  So it's something that we'll be
         17    responsible about, and chase.  We --
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, I guess the issue for me,
         19    and I'll just leave it on the table, is this:  There is the
         20    specific issue related to the specific system, with all the
         21    issues of whether it's a Part 21 issue, whether it's been
         22    quote, unquote, known about.  But it is an issue that
         23    relates to the potential inoperability of your ultimate heat
         24    sink, the ECCS system.  It is one that had been uncovered
         25    during previous testing, and to the extent that you in fact
            
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          1    continuously say it was something that was known about, then
          2    again, particularly known about for over a decade, then it
          3    raises questions about the narrowness of focus in getting to
          4    the root cause when there was an anomaly in the testing in
          5    your ultimate heat sink.  And that, I think, is the issue
          6    because it's not a question of whether some people think
          7    that is credible or not credible.  It has to do with
          8    something that could render your ultimate heat sink
          9    potentially inoperable, and it has to do with narrowness of
         10    point of view as well as getting to the fundamental root
         11    cause in something that's been around for over a decade. 
         12    And so that's the message in this from my perspective.  And
         13    there's not a whole lot of explaining away there can be with
         14    respect to those things.
         15              Would you go on?
         16              MR. KENYON:  Another challenge is to achieve Unit
         17    3 readiness.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And because it does raise
         19    issues about your deferred items list, because you, you
         20    know, that's been a concern, period.  And now this issue
         21    comes up at the zeroth hour, before this meeting, that is.
         22              MR. KENYON:  Another issue is to achieve Unit 3
         23    readiness.  We expect to achieve readiness for Mode 4 next
         24    week.  This will provide an important opportunity to heat
         25    the unit up to normal operating temperature and pressure in
            
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          1    order to further check out systems.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is this a system that is needed
          3    for Mode 4?
          4              MR. KENYON:  Yes.
          5              It also will allow us to close out a substantial
          6    number of remaining items required for restart as part of
          7    the process.  We recognize the need to address this issue,
          8    to address the recirculation spray system to the NRC's
          9    satisfaction before entry into Mode 4, and there's -- that's
         10    been a recognized issue and we have a meeting with the NRC
         11    staff this afternoon to further discuss that.
         12              We also recognize a challenge to manage
         13    nonrestart-related work items to an acceptable level.  This
         14    obviously goes right into just what we've been talking
         15    about.
         16              We have put together a process to determine
         17    whether or not an item's deferrable, and certainly that
         18    process is dependent on how you look at it, and we do have
         19    this question of the cycling of a valve, was that looked at
         20    too narrowly.  For what we understood it to be, it was
         21    legitimate to defer it, for understanding it to be something
         22    more than that, then it's not likely to be an appropriate
         23    item to defer.  And we will as a result of this look back
         24    through our screening and come to some further conclusion as
         25    to whether the screening has been right, but up to now we
            
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          1    have felt that we have applied appropriate screening.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you feel your ECCS system is
          3    important?
          4              MR. KENYON:  Absolutely.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
          6              MR. KENYON:  And in response to the NRC's very
          7    broad question on backlog, and of course that goes into how
          8    do you define backlog, in response to how we were asked to
          9    define it, we have provided a listing of items to the staff
         10    which is very encompassing.  It's not just those that are
         11    risk and safety significant.  It's not just those that
         12    represent physical work.  But everything that we're tracking
         13    in the way of plant betterment, enhancements,
         14    clarifications, drawing upgrades -- I mean, there's a lot
         15    here.
         16              The paperwork in process, condition reports, this
         17    is all what we're tracking, and thus when you cast the net
         18    that widely, you come up with what appears to be a fairly
         19    sizable number.  But we have assessed not just individual
         20    items but we've assessed the aggregate using PRA techniques,
         21    so we're comfortable that the totality of the backlog is
         22    acceptable for startup.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now my staff tells me in fact
         24    that if you look at this particular situation and you look
         25    at what may dominate a core damage event, that this is
            
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          1    nonnegligible in that regard.  And, you know, the issue is
          2    not to get into, you know, a debate specifically about this,
          3    but the two points I really want to make is, this issue
          4    about nonrestart backlog, the question is whether you may
          5    need to reevaluate what you call nonrestart versus restart. 
          6    That's No. 1.
          7              A second point has to do with an embedded issue
          8    with respect to corrective actions has been timeliness of
          9    the fix, as well as comprehensiveness of the analysis that
         10    leads to it, and again, and I know the message you're trying
         11    to project to us today, and we have a responsibility to
         12    listen to you, but, you know, I can't reemphasize more
         13    strongly the need to take this and to propagate it as a
         14    lessons learned into what you do.
         15              MR. KENYON:  And, Chairman Jackson, we will do
         16    that, so I'm struggling a little bit to deal with an issue
         17    that just surfaced which we need to put through our process
         18    and ask us just the same questions that you're asking, and
         19    thus we need to respond to that, so I'm trying in a sense to
         20    take that one issue and assure you that we're going to deal
         21    with that.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, it's not one issue. 
         23    That's my point.
         24              MR. KENYON:  Well --
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And that's what I want --
            
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          1              MR. KENYON:  Ramifications --
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You to understand from at least
          3    my point of view.
          4              MR. KENYON:  Yes.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  It's not one issue.  It is an
          6    issue, and the question is to what extent does it have any
          7    generic implications.
          8              MR. KENYON:  And if I conveyed anything other than
          9    that, I didn't mean to.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So why don't we move on.
         11              MR. KENYON:  Okay.  To -- I guess finish my
         12    comments on backlog with all acknowledgement of what you
         13    just said, we do have a very broad definition of what
         14    constitutes backlog.  We do have a very low threshold for
         15    identifying items.  We have had a careful process to
         16    evaluate things.  We'll have to go back and check that.  And
         17    we think the magnitude that we have compares reasonably with
         18    other plants providing they use a similar threshold and a
         19    similar scope.  We'll talk more about the backlog in greater
         20    detail later in the presentation.
         21              Another challenge is to achieve station readiness
         22    to support Unit 3 restart.  And the remaining issue here is
         23    training, and we are going to get that resolved.
         24              Now this next slide addresses important other
         25    challenges in transitioning the Millstone organization from
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          1    a recovery organization into long-term operation.  Chairman
          2    Jackson, you correctly pointed out certain of these issues
          3    and challenges in your recent site visit, and I also want to
          4    say in addition to what Mike Morris said that your visit was
          5    very much appreciated by -- and this is based on
          6    considerable feedback by the community, it was appreciated
          7    by the community, it was certainly appreciated by
          8    management, and particularly by employees who valued and
          9    appreciated the considerable time that you spent devoted to
         10    talking with them.  That communication was important.
         11              Moving on to the challenges, there's a challenge
         12    in the sense of needing to ensure sufficient separation of
         13    Unit 3 operations from the continuing recovery efforts on
         14    Unit 2 and the shutdown maintenance mode on Unit 1.  This is
         15    accomplished by having a management structure and dedicated
         16    resources for Unit 3 startup and operations separate for
         17    that -- separate for Unit 2 recovery, and thus this is our
         18    means to ensure that there's a high degree of focus on unit
         19    operations.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Where do you stand in
         21    developing an integrated schedule?
         22              MR. KENYON:  We have an integrated schedule.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Has it been submitted?
         24              MR. BOWLING:  It will be on the docket this week.
         25              MR. KENYON:  We have shifted into the normal
            
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          1    organization for startup and operations for Unit 3, and
          2    that's headed by Mike Brothers.
          3              Another challenge is the need to provide
          4    additional monitoring and coaching as the plant resumes
          5    operation.  The unit has been out for a long period of time. 
          6    We have to be very careful, cautious and conservative as we
          7    resume operation.  An important action here will be to add
          8    mentoring SROs in the control room from other units in order
          9    to watch and coach as necessary, and we're going to do
         10    something similar with plant equipment operators.
         11              There's also the need to ensure that performance
         12    monitoring and reporting and oversight shifts effectively
         13    into an operating mode such that we're well positioned to
         14    detect any potential backsliding performance.  The programs
         15    are in place.  We have an acceptable but not generous number
         16    of personnel in oversight with operating experience, so I
         17    think we're prepared to do that.
         18              We need to establish a long-term improvement plan. 
         19    As I stated previously, achieving restart is just a
         20    milestone on the road to excellence.  The plan has been
         21    drafted.  A significant portion of that was included in the
         22    briefing book and we will include the complete plan as part
         23    of our next briefing.
         24              Another important need is to do organizational and
         25    succession planning.  As we transition out of recovery mode,
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          1    we're going to go to a simpler organization.  The needs for
          2    that need to be defined.  An important characteristic will
          3    be to maintain good checks and balances.  We will do
          4    succession planning for obvious normal reasons, but also to
          5    improve bench strength.  We're not as deep as I would like,
          6    and certainly we need to prepare for the eventual phase-out
          7    of the recovery organizations.  So even as we prepared for
          8    restart, consideration is being given to these important
          9    other challenges.
         10              Unless there are further questions for me, I would
         11    like to call on Dave Amerine to brief on safety-conscious
         12    work environment.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
         14              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  I would like to ask one
         15    question since it's not going to fit in anywhere easily in
         16    the briefing about Unit 2.  The staff is going to present
         17    slides later that show their current schedule looking toward
         18    completing staff actions around the 10th of July.  The last
         19    time you were here, you were hoping to be one month behind. 
         20    Is that where you now are, three months behind in your own
         21    schedule?
         22              MR. KENYON:  We've I think previously
         23    characterized Unit 2 as being two to three months behind
         24    Unit 3.  The July time frame is obviously -- appears to
         25    support the three-month interval.  There has been some
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          1    impact on Unit 2 because we have been devoting so much
          2    attention and resources to Unit 3, so I think three months
          3    and the July time frame is right for where we are now.
          4              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  And then one other
          5    questions.  Parsons, in one of its backup slides, is --
          6    preliminarily in their discrepancy report found five Level
          7    1's and one Level 2 at Unit 2.  You all will have a
          8    conversation, but if that holds, that will have implications
          9    about your startup schedule as well.
         10              MR. KENYON:  We understand that.
         11              Marty, how many have we responded to at this
         12    point?
         13              MR. BOWLING:  We have responded to those Level 1's
         14    and provided additional technical information that should
         15    justify a reclassification of those levels.  That's
         16    certainly up to Parsons to confirm.
         17              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  So in your judgment, the
         18    Level 1's and Level 2's are 3's or 4's?
         19              MR. BOWLING:  That's correct, and some of those
         20    have been responded to for over several months.
         21              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Several months.
         22              MR. BOWLING:  Yes.
         23              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Very well.  I'm going to
         24    ask questions later.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
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          1              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Thank you.
          2              MR. KENYON:  Dave?
          3              MR. AMERINE:  Good morning.  My name is Dave
          4    Amerine and I'm the Vice President of Human Services at
          5    Millstone.
          6              I have recently assumed the responsibilities for
          7    the safety-conscious work environment there.  In this
          8    capacity, I report to Mike Brothers, who retains the
          9    responsibilities as executive sponsor for establishing and
         10    maintaining the safety-conscious work environment, but I
         11    will be going through that presentation.
         12              May I have the first slide, please.
         13              This slide gives our six high-level success
         14    criteria which we will use to ensure that we have
         15    successfully established and are in a position to maintain a
         16    safety-conscious work environment at Millstone Station.  I
         17    will discuss the first four of these success criteria.  The
         18    last two, the employee concern oversight panel and Little
         19    Harbor Consultant validation of our efforts, are independent
         20    verifications of our evaluation.
         21              At the December 12th NRC Commissioners' meeting,
         22    we reported that we felt we were currently meeting our
         23    acceptance criteria in the first two success criteria; that
         24    is, employee willingness to raise concerns and line
         25    management's ability to handle issues effectively.  Today, I
            
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          1    am pleased to report that we continue to meet our success
          2    requirements in the first two criteria, and we now feel that
          3    we are meeting our success criteria in the third area, an
          4    effective employee concerns program.
          5              Although in general, we feel we are tracking to
          6    success in the fourth area, the ability to recognize and
          7    address problem areas, as Bruce Kenyon mentioned, we have
          8    had a potentially significant event which is under
          9    investigation at this time.  This is the recent situation
         10    which occurred relative to a brainstorming session in
         11    nuclear oversight during which inappropriate terminology was
         12    used.
         13              However, overall, we believe we have made progress
         14    in all areas in establishing a safety-conscious work
         15    environment and are on track to support the restart of
         16    Millstone Unit 3 in this important area.
         17              The first criterion I will discuss is the
         18    willingness of employees to raise concerns.  This criterion
         19    is currently being met.
         20              This graph shows our current leadership results to
         21    support success criterion on employees' willingness to raise
         22    concerns.  As shown on the slide, our criterion is that
         23    greater than 90 percent of the people are willing to raise
         24    issues to their immediate supervisor.  The current value is
         25    approximately 97.5 percent, so this criterion is currently
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          1    being met.
          2              This graph shows the culture survey results which
          3    assess the percentage of respondents who agree that there is
          4    a safety-conscious work environment in their work area. 
          5    Although this measurement is not yet at our long-range goal,
          6    we believe the current results in the overall cultural
          7    survey coupled with the percentage of people who are willing
          8    to raise concerns to their supervisor meet our acceptance
          9    criterion.
         10              This next graph shows our confidentiality plus
         11    anonymous trend.  The top line is the total number of
         12    concerns received per month and the bottom line is the total
         13    number of concerns which are requesting either
         14    confidentiality or are received anonymously.  Our criterion
         15    is that no adverse trend exists in this area.  As you can
         16    see, in both December and to a lesser extent in January, we
         17    had an increase in the total number of concerns and,
         18    correspondingly, an increase in number of concerns which
         19    requested confidentiality or were received anonymously.
         20              Although the percentage of confidential or
         21    anonymous concerns actually decreased, we will be watching
         22    this indicator closely to ensure that an adverse trend is
         23    not occurring.
         24              By February 17th, four of the twelve concerns
         25    received so far this month requested either confidentiality
            
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          1    or were received anonymously.  Now, if extrapolated
          2    linearly, the total for February should be approximately 20
          3    total concerns, which is less than both December and
          4    January.  There is no particular pattern in the increase of
          5    concerns that has been detected, and in the same period, the
          6    trend of allegations to the NRC has decreased.
          7              I might add that I was responsible for instituting
          8    an employee concern program at Davis Besse during their
          9    restart, the recovery and restart of that unit, and also at
         10    the defense waste processing facility of the Savannah River
         11    site.  And when you go through that initial training and
         12    advertising advertising to increase employee sensitivity and
         13    awareness of an Employee Concern Program, in both those
         14    cases, I experienced a similar kind of increased activity in
         15    the beginning of the program, which eventually tapered off,
         16    so this is not unexpected, in my opinion.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You mentioned there that
         18    although there is an adverse trend, that there are other
         19    indicators substantiating that employees are willing to
         20    raise concerns.  Are those the other graphs that you are
         21    going to be talking about?
         22              MR. AMERINE:  Yes, ma'am.  Yes, ma'am.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         24              MR. AMERINE:  Okay.  The second criterion that I
         25    will discuss is the effectiveness of line management in
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          1    handling issues, like the first, we are currently meeting
          2    this success criteria.
          3              This next graph shows the average age of our
          4    Condition Report Evaluations.  Our goal is not to have an
          5    adverse trend in this indicator.  The average time of
          6    Condition Report -- from a Condition Report initiation to
          7    evaluation was approximately 23 days during the month of
          8    January.
          9              The last three weeks the average age of the
         10    Condition Report Evaluations has increased from 26 to 34
         11    days.  Most of those not achieving the goal are exceeding
         12    the 30 day target by only a few days.  This is due to the
         13    priorities, our engineering work force being directed to
         14    respond to the Independent Corrective Action Verification
         15    Program, support the transition to Mode 4 and respond to the
         16    NRC inspection activities.
         17              However, for the week of February 11th, of average
         18    age of completed Condition Report Evaluations dropped once
         19    again to 30 days.  We believe we are effectively managing
         20    this metric and performance in this area is currently
         21    satisfactory.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So let me make sure I
         23    understand.  What you are saying is that even though this
         24    average length of time has gone up, you are saying that you
         25    understand it because the work force that would be
            
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          1    addressing these have been diverted to other things?
          2              MR. AMERINE:  That is correct.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And that even with that, you
          4    have dropped from the 34 days to the 30 days?
          5              MR. AMERINE:  In this past week, that is correct.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  In the past week.
          7              MR. AMERINE:  Now, that took increased management.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And that's what you mean when
          9    you say tracking the status?
         10              MR. AMERINE:  Yes, ma'am.  And we were responding
         11    to our trend in this case, in this performance indicator. 
         12    So we have brought it back down to the 30 days.
         13              The next graph -- the next graph shows our current
         14    Condition Report Evaluation score.  This score is developed
         15    by averaging all the Condition Report Evaluations which are
         16    reviewed by the Site Management Review Team during each
         17    month.  The Condition Review -- the Condition Report
         18    receives a 4 if the Evaluation is accepted without comment,
         19    2 if it is accepted with comment, and 0 if it is rejected by
         20    the Management Review Team.  This criterion is currently
         21    being met.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now, is there a sampling of
         23    these quality ratings by Little Harbor or NRC?
         24              MR. AMERINE:  I am not aware of that.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
            
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          1              MR. AMERINE:  Okay.  The next graph, this shows
          2    the percentage of all Action Requests as a result of
          3    Condition Reports which are overdue.  The goal is less than
          4    3 percent.  Significant attention has been focused on
          5    completing those actions necessary to Mode 4, as we just
          6    discussed.  As a result, the lower priority Corrective
          7    Actions became overdue.
          8              Now, once again, due to increase management
          9    attention in response to this KPI, for the week of February
         10    11th, we once again were at the goal of 3 percent, so this
         11    criterion is currently being met as well.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How quickly must they be
         13    assigned?  You say, you talk about the number of overdue
         14    assignments.  When do they become overdue?  I mean how
         15    quickly must they be assigned in order not to be overdue?
         16              MR. AMERINE:  Well, we are trying to get them
         17    assigned as soon as they come in the door, and then get the
         18    Evaluation done within those 30 days.
         19              MR. BROTHERS:  There's an Evaluation, the
         20    timeliness of the Evaluation is 30 days, and then the
         21    overdue is based upon the approved due date once that
         22    Evaluation comes out.  So the overdues are looking at
         23    something that has gone past the due date that was approved
         24    by the Management Review Team.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
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          1              MR. AMERINE:  Thank you.  The third criterion I
          2    will discuss is the effectiveness of the Employee Concerns
          3    Program.  We now evaluate our performance in this area
          4    satisfactory.
          5              The next slide shows the average age of unresolved
          6    concerns.  In the December 12th presentation, the success
          7    criterion was that 90 percent of all investigations are
          8    completed within 45 days.  It was also indicated at that
          9    time we were assessing the validity of this indicator, of
         10    the effectiveness of our Employee Concerns Program.  This is
         11    because an undue focus on timeliness can result in
         12    degradation of other areas of the Employee Concerns Program.
         13              We have altered our criterion to look at the
         14    average age of unresolved concerns to more effectively
         15    assess the ability of the organization to keep up with its
         16    receipt rate, without sacrificing any of the other aspects
         17    of the concern processing.  No adverse trend with regard to
         18    this average age of unresolved concerns exists at this time,
         19    so this criterion is currently being met.
         20              The next slide shows the percentage of employees
         21    who have used the Employee Concerns Program, that would use
         22    it again if they had the need.  The first three data points
         23    are really Little Harbor consultant numbers since we were
         24    not tracking this parameter during the early part of 1997. 
         25    In December of 1997, we commissioned the Employee Concerns
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          1    Oversight Panel to ascertain a certain value for this
          2    metric.  This was determined to be 75 percent, which is the
          3    lighter shade bar.  At the same time, Little Harbor, their
          4    estimate was 83 percent.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  When do you plant to do your
          6    next survey?
          7              MR. AMERINE:  We are going to have them
          8    commissioned to do that from now on.  In fact, I talk about
          9    that at this moment.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  On what frequency, I mean?
         11              MR. AMERINE:  I am not sure of the frequency, but
         12    it is going to be -- they are just getting into this metric
         13    now.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You haven't decided what the
         15    frequency will be?
         16              MR. AMERINE:  Yes, ma'am.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         18              MR. AMERINE:  We are continuing to refine this
         19    metric to determine additional factors such as the areas
         20    that we would be looking, reasons for dissatisfaction and so
         21    forth, and we are going to fold that into determining, you
         22    know, what the answer to your question would be.
         23              At this moment, though, based on both Little
         24    Harbor and our initial one, we assess this metric as meeting
         25    expectations and expect to gain further useful information
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          1    for it to become a more effective measurement as we use the
          2    Employee Concerns Oversight Panel data.  So, therefore,
          3    right now, we believe this criterion is being met.
          4              The fourth criteria is our effectiveness if
          5    recognizing and remediating problem areas within the
          6    Millstone organization.  Although the performance in this
          7    area has improved, we are not currently meeting our
          8    standards.
          9              The first slide here is simply a compilation of
         10    our current status of training to our supervisors and above
         11    at Millstone Station.  We are committed to get above 95
         12    percent on the first three training categories, and we
         13    believe that we will have all three of those above 95
         14    percent by mid-March.  The other one that is shown on there
         15    is our Forum for Leadership Excellence, and we will have the
         16    work force above 95 percent by mid-1998.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is this in-house training that
         18    you do, or you bring in outside?
         19              MR. AMERINE:  It is a combination.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Combination.  And tell me about
         21    the Forum for Leadership Excellence.
         22              MR. AMERINE:  That is a program that, in fact, my
         23    first two days at Millstone were spent in that Forum for
         24    Leadership Excellence.  And we get, at various levels, we
         25    have brought together the managers and supervisors and we
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          1    are working our way on down through the organization, and it
          2    is facilitated by an outside contractor who has done this at
          3    other utilities, to basically develop communication skills
          4    and techniques and team work approaches and so forth, and we
          5    have found it to be very useful.
          6              One of the things that I have seen that it does is
          7    it starts to develop a common language across the site.
          8              Okay.  Next slide.  This slide shows our current
          9    trend of Employee Concerns alleging instances of harassment,
         10    intimidation, retaliation and discrimination with 50.7
         11    implications.  We use a conservative classification of HIRD,
         12    including not only explicitly stated alleged activities, but
         13    also any inferred from the Concern Statement, including fear
         14    of possible future retaliation.
         15              The HIRD classification includes matters such as
         16    race discrimination and sexual harassment, as well as the
         17    chilling effect and adverse actions related to protected
         18    activities.  So we are using a conservative definition in
         19    looking at this.
         20              But, regardless, we have zero tolerance for all
         21    HIRD instances, especially those leading to potential
         22    violations of 50.7.
         23              We have completed a review of 218 concerns between
         24    December 1st, 1996 and January 31st, 1998, which reveal that
         25    approximately 50 percent of the concerns had one or more
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          1    HIRD elements, and approximately 25 percent had 10 CFR 50.7
          2    potential implications.  These proportions are consistent
          3    with previous classifications, but we are working hard to
          4    bring those down.
          5              Our criterion is that substantiated instances of
          6    potential 10 CFR 50.7 violations are rare and are handled
          7    responsibly.  The top line shows the total numbers of
          8    concerns received and the bottom line on the chart shows
          9    those concerns with potential 50.7 implications.
         10              The bar, in August 1997, represents three
         11    instances of substantiated potential 50.7 violations.  These
         12    three were all as a result of the MOV event which occurred
         13    in July-August time frame.  Now, as of February 17th, these
         14    are the only substantiated cases of potential 50.7
         15    violations which we have had during the period of
         16    May-December 1997.
         17              There are additional cases that are still under
         18    discussion with a third party which have the possibility to
         19    be substantiated as potential 50.7 violations.
         20              This criterion, we feel at this time is being met. 
         21    However, extensive executive involvement in any confirmed
         22    case of HIRD, regardless of whether or not there are 50.7
         23    implications, will ensure that Corrective Actions, up to and
         24    including reassignment and removal, are effective at
         25    eliminating HIRD at Millstone.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  If you have zero tolerance,
          2    what is your satisfactory performance criteria?
          3              MR. AMERINE:  Well, in the discussion that Bruce
          4    Kenyon had about that before, where we are headed is to get
          5    the instances of this to be very rare and the total impact
          6    to be as low as possible.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I guess I'm really trying to
          8    probe the thinking, I mean you have this lump-up here in the
          9    November-to-January time frame, but you feel that your
         10    performance is satisfactory, and is that because at this
         11    stage of the game, even though you have the potential
         12    concerns, they haven't been substantiated?  I guess I'm
         13    trying to understand these relative to the trend on the
         14    graph what the definition of satisfactory is.
         15              MR. AMERINE:  Right.  As I was saying before, this
         16    looks similar and it is very similar to the previous graph I
         17    had on this, and these are alleged concerns that have come
         18    in, and again I believe that we're seeing this spike up,
         19    which is now coming down, and if we make a linear
         20    projection, February will be a 20, whereas January is 27.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Ah, you can't make a linear
         22    projection.
         23              MR. AMERINE:  Oh, I'm not saying --
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Can't do that.
         25              MR. AMERINE:  You're absolutely right.  But if we
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          1    were, the number would have come down --
          2              [Laughter.]
          3              MR. AMERINE:  But again, as I said, my experience
          4    at both Davis-Besse and the Defense Waste Processing
          5    Facility was that they went up and started to come back
          6    down.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I understand all that.  But
          8    what I would suggest that you -- I think it's -- you don't
          9    make linear extrapolations with something like this.
         10              MR. AMERINE:  No.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  That's No. 1.  No. 2, it is
         12    better to keep the emphasis on what's substantiated and
         13    what's not.
         14              MR. AMERINE:  Right.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And 3, if you think that there
         16    are explanatory statements you can make, which is probably
         17    buried in here, you know, just list them in the margin,
         18    because I think that you don't want to affect your
         19    credibility about statistics and talk about extrapolation
         20    here.
         21              MR. AMERINE:  I understand.
         22              MR. KENYON:  Could I just -- I agree with what you
         23    said, Chairman Jackson.  These HIRD items, just to
         24    emphasize, these are either alleged --
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I know.
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          1              MR. KENYON:  By the concerned or inferred --
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.
          3              MR. KENYON:  Or just a chilling effect.  I mean,
          4    it is a pretty broad definition.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.  And all I'm trying to
          6    say is that it is better to talk about it that way, in that
          7    way, then to talk about linear extrapolation.
          8              MR. KENYON:  We understand.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.  Please.
         10              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Also, when you look at all of
         11    this graph, it might be appropriate to, you know, look at
         12    any one of them and say, you know, right now is not
         13    satisfactory, but the trend is not declining, but some of
         14    them you put a criteria and then you said well, you know, I
         15    look at any one of them, you know, criteria is less than 3
         16    percent, and obviously the last four months is over 3
         17    percent.  Without extrapolation, using some averaging,
         18    you'll still be above three.
         19              So you have not met the criteria, but you can make
         20    an explanation if that is not significantly above the
         21    criteria, and that is not trending adversely.  But, you
         22    know, I think making a statement that, you know, it's
         23    satisfactory or we met the criteria, it doesn't track with
         24    your graph.  It's better to say it doesn't meet the
         25    criteria, but it doesn't meet it by a little bit, and is
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          1    not, you know, tracking adversely.  And I think that would
          2    be a little better from my viewpoint.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.  And I mean I think that
          4    all of these things are consistent.  But, you know, and I
          5    realize you've had quite a bit of prior experience, but
          6    each, you know, entity and each organization is different,
          7    and therefore linear extrapolation's a very dangerous thing.
          8              MR. AMERINE:  Okay.  If I could have the next
          9    slide, please.
         10              This slide shows our total number of problem areas
         11    at Millstone Station.  In fact, successful action plans have
         12    brought the number of problem areas down from 33 to 11. 
         13    Four of the problem areas' action plans are nearing
         14    completion, four of the 11 that are left at this time, and
         15    are expected to be effective in mid-March.
         16              Now a problem area is any area in which a
         17    safety-conscious work environment may not exist.  Problem
         18    areas are identified by inputs from the employee concern
         19    program, from the employee concern oversight panel, from
         20    Little Harbor Consultants, or from the culture or leadership
         21    surveys, or a combination thereof.
         22              Our criterion is that the total number of problem
         23    areas not indicate an adverse trend.  While we meet that
         24    criterion, we have not yet demonstrated the ability to
         25    proactively identify and remediate problems prior to them
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          1    becoming obvious problems.
          2              The nuclear oversight problem discussed by Bruce
          3    Kenyon notwithstanding, we have several examples of
          4    proactive responses to potential problem areas in the recent
          5    past.  In other words, we have successfully prevented some
          6    potential areas from becoming problem areas by effective
          7    intervention.  We expect this performance level to continue
          8    to improve and the organization's ability to identify and
          9    prevent problem areas to take precedence over our ability to
         10    remediate problem areas which have been allowed to occur. 
         11    Increased senior human resource management and legal
         12    presence on site is helping in our responsiveness.
         13              Returning to our six success criteria as we
         14    reported during the December 12 NRC Commissioners meeting,
         15    we are meeting our criteria for employees' willingness to
         16    raise concerns and line management's effectiveness in
         17    dealing with issues raised by employees.  We have made
         18    significant and meaningful progress towards establishing an
         19    effective employee concerns program.  Today we feel we're
         20    meeting the success criteria in that area.
         21              The fourth success criteria, our ability to
         22    recognize and address problem areas, is where we still need
         23    to improve to meet our success criteria.  Significant
         24    progress has been made over the last few months.  This area
         25    will continue to be our focus going forward.
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          1              The remaining two success criteria, employee
          2    concerns oversight panel and Little Harbor Consultant
          3    concurrence, are under way and expected to support the Unit
          4    3 restart schedule.
          5              Now speaking of going forward, our next focus in
          6    the area of safety-conscious work environment is the
          7    development of the plan that Mr. Kenyon mentioned.  As we
          8    have consistently stated, our overall recovery strategy is
          9    the startup and then power ascension, and then the long-term
         10    performance improvement plan.  Mike Brothers is also the
         11    executive sponsor for the long-term performance improvement
         12    for Millstone station, as well as the safety-conscious work
         13    environment, which is a subset of that.
         14              Included in this plan are some plan enhancements
         15    to our processes which will support the safety-conscious
         16    work environment.  These include but are not limited to
         17    clarification of employee concern program responsibilities,
         18    long-term organizational alignment within the areas that I'm
         19    responsible for, first-line supervisors' handbook, and a
         20    safety-conscious work environment manual.  This plan should
         21    be finalized in late February or early March.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         23              MR. AMERINE:  If there are any other questions,
         24    I'll pass the baton to Marty Bowling.
         25              Thank you.
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          1              MR. BOWLING:  Good morning.
          2              Before I begin, let me clarify my response to your
          3    question, Commissioner.  In terms of the five Level 1s and
          4    the one Level 1 -- Level 2 on Unit 2, we have responded to
          5    three of the Level 1s and the one Level 2, and that was done
          6    in '97.  The responses for the remaining two Level 1s are in
          7    final preparation and will be provided shortly to Parsons.
          8              In my August and December briefings to you I
          9    discussed the status of corrective actions at Millstone. 
         10    Today I want to update you on our progress.
         11              In general terms it's my view that the corrective
         12    actions continue to be on track to fully support both Unit 3
         13    restart and the continuing recovery of Unit 2.  We have a
         14    program that is designed to industry standards.  This
         15    program has been implemented, personnel trained, and
         16    self-assessments of both the process and the quality of
         17    results are being performed.  I think this is the key
         18    attribute, in that it's not a perfect program, but when we
         19    find we've made a mistake, we're looking at it in its
         20    broadest extent to understand the extent of the problem and
         21    making sure that we get that fixed.  And this issue that
         22    you've brought up will go right into that process.
         23              Also, nuclear oversight is providing weekly
         24    independent surveillance of the program.
         25              This slide shows the four major programmatic
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          1    elements and the supporting attributes of corrective action
          2    in the broadest sense.  This slide, which focuses on Unit 3,
          3    is color-coded to represent the current status toward
          4    restart readiness for Unit 3.
          5              My purpose is to give you a balanced sense of the
          6    robustness of our corrective actions at this stage of the
          7    recovery.  The first two elements, problem identification
          8    and problem evaluation, were discussed last December and
          9    continue to be satisfactory.  As you will note, the two
         10    elements of problem resolution and corrective action
         11    effectiveness are not yet satisfactory, but are on track. 
         12    Indicators are provided in the issue book for most of these
         13    areas, and include both restart and postrestart items.
         14              With respect to problem resolution and corrective
         15    action effectiveness, the principle issues that I will focus
         16    on are the restart backlogs and configuration management
         17    effectiveness.  Both Mike Brothers and I will also discuss
         18    postrestart backlogs.  Mike will also discuss repetitive
         19    issues and Unit 3 organizational readiness.
         20              The restart backlog or remaining tasks required
         21    for restart of Unit 3 are shown in this slide.  These
         22    remaining tasks include all of the items required to restore
         23    compliance with the design and licensing basis for safety
         24    and risk-significant systems as well as NRC regulations.  As
         25    you can see, this indicator is showing steady progress and
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          1    it's tracking to satisfactory.  As of February 17, 684
          2    restart tasks remain.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How many, 683?
          4              MR. BOWLING:  684.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  684.  And that's as of the
          6    7th -- 17th.
          7              MR. BOWLING:  Yes.
          8              This slide and the next give a better perspective
          9    of the remaining tasks required to restore compliance.  As
         10    Bruce indicated in his remarks, progress continues on the
         11    key organizational and programmatic issues.  This slide
         12    shows that most of the significant items, that is, those
         13    issues that could affect the operability and functionality
         14    of safety and risk-significant maintenance rule equipment,
         15    have been addressed.
         16              In addition, substantial progress has been made in
         17    responding to the NRC's significant-item list relating to
         18    manual chapter 0350 process.
         19              Finally, we are meeting our commitments to the
         20    NRC.  Just to update you where we are as of yesterday on the
         21    significant items with 50.54(f) it's 252 items remaining for
         22    the MC0350 significant items list there are six.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You had indicated in your
         24    executive summary that you would expect that all the
         25    significant items list packages to be submitted to the NRC
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          1    by mid-February.  Did you -- were you able to meet that?
          2              MR. BOWLING:  There are still six.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Oh, that's what you mean when
          4    you say there's six.
          5              MR. BOWLING:  Yes.  Yes.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  I understand.
          7              MR. BOWLING:  I will discuss our responses in more
          8    detail.  That number's substantially less.  And for open NRC
          9    restart commitments, it's at 77.
         10              The next slide.
         11              This slide shows the corrective action resulting
         12    from the NU-performed reviews to restore compliance to
         13    design and licensing basis.  As you can tell, a substantial
         14    number of the corrective actions have been completed.
         15              The next slide, please.
         16              Now moving to the second element, corrective
         17    action effectiveness, I want to concentrate on configuration
         18    management program effectiveness.
         19              The program for reviewing the Millstone Unit 3
         20    design and licensing basis was developed in the spring of
         21    1996.  The methodology used was to perform a diagnostic
         22    review of key design and licensing basis documents.  Based
         23    on the diagnostic results which were provided to the NRC in
         24    July of '96, the scope of the configuration management
         25    project was determined.  In summary, this was a graded
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          1    review based on risk and safety significance.  Still, it was
          2    comprehensive in scope with 88 maintenance rule covered
          3    systems, 19 topical areas, environmental qualifications,
          4    energy, line break, fire protection, and portions of
          5    approximately 60 other technical programs.  Also, the FSAR
          6    and technical specifications were reviewed to determine if
          7    they were being complied with.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you, you have a
          9    meeting this afternoon --
         10              MR. BOWLING:  Yes.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  -- with the NRC staff on the
         12    recirculation spray system, and it's a system, you know,
         13    that I happened to look at when I was there, and to a large
         14    extent, you've reconfigured that system during your
         15    shutdown.  Can you describe the problems you've had and how
         16    you assure yourselves that the system now is operable? 
         17    Would you just kind of walk through that in a succinct
         18    fashion?
         19              MR. BOWLING:  Okay.  And I may ask Mike Brothers
         20    for some help here as well.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Sure.  Okay.
         22              MR. BOWLING:  In initial startup, there were flow
         23    stability problems through the heat exchangers of that
         24    system which required restrictions on flow, and the various
         25    analysis has been to assure that the flow stability is
            
                   
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          1    acceptable, and that has required both reconfiguration of
          2    the lineups in terms of injecting into the reactor coolant
          3    system directly as well as supporting other ECCS pumps, and
          4    it has also required physical modification such as orificing
          5    in order to get the flows right.
          6              Also there was a timing issue in terms of
          7    operators being able to do lineups in the required amount of
          8    time, and that time was extended to give them the adequate
          9    time to perform these evolutions.
         10              Mike?
         11              MR. BROTHERS:  Yes.  I would break the problems
         12    with the recirculation spray system up into, as you
         13    described, the original problem, too much flow through the
         14    heat exchangers when we went into the injection mode, which
         15    was changed in 1985 and called into question in our process.
         16              When we shut down, we identified fluid temperature
         17    problems with a failure of service water which resulted in a
         18    fluid system excedent, ambient temperature problems, and the
         19    fact that we treated the containment temperature profile
         20    during a large break LOCA as a transient event, that was
         21    called into question.
         22              We had water hammer events that came from the
         23    generic letter as a result of the Haddam Neck problem that
         24    they had had on their containment air recirculation fans. 
         25    It wasn't in the same system, but it was a water hammer
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          1    event.
          2              We had the ECS valve erosion event, the single
          3    most significant event we had, an industry event, which says
          4    that the valves were throttled down so far that if you can
          5    imagine a line going to the break, the loop that the break
          6    is in, that the position of that valve being throttled is
          7    supposed to eliminate or reduce the amount of flow that's
          8    being robbed and going to the break, but the valves were
          9    found by EPRI to be in the cavitating range and they fail
         10    quickly.  Orifices were installed for that as well as the
         11    air entrainment issue that was identified in the tier 1
         12    inspection.
         13              So all those in addition to the original design
         14    problem of too much flow were in the recirculation spray
         15    system.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         17              MR. BOWLING:  We have put on the docket a fairly
         18    comprehensive discussion of how the system is performing
         19    today versus its original licensing basis and all the --
         20    explaining all the changes.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         22              MR. BOWLING:  As I stated, the configuration
         23    management effort was graded based on risk and safety
         24    significance.  Initially, the scope was focused on the areas
         25    of weakness identified in a diagnostic review; however, we
            
                   
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          1    recognized that self-assessment would be critical.  Simply
          2    stated, we know that we must be able to find our own
          3    problems and fix them before they become more significant.
          4              In addition, the ICAVP review process has resulted
          5    in findings that have also required us to determine the need
          6    for additional reviews.  In a number of cases, we have
          7    performed the necessary additional work to provide added
          8    assurance that we have identified all of the important
          9    issues.
         10              This slide shows the additional areas that have or
         11    are currently being addressed.  A number of issues have been
         12    identified by these reviews, but none individually have had
         13    high safety significance or have resulted in a reportable
         14    event under 10 CFR 50.73.
         15              Two of these reviews cover areas recently
         16    addressed in a pre-decisional enforcement conference.  The
         17    principal concern was for the potential for air binding of
         18    safety required pumps which was identified by the NRC in
         19    their Tier 1 out-of-scope SFFI and was mentioned by the NRC
         20    in the December Commission meeting with you as a potential
         21    high safety significant issue.
         22              At the January 13th pre-decisional conference
         23    which was open to the public, we provided the NRC staff with
         24    information demonstrating that this issue posed no safety
         25    impact and that the Millstone ECCS systems were operable and
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          1    functional.  We are also providing the NRC staff the
          2    technical information we relied upon so they can
          3    independently review our conclusions.
          4              The other issue concerns the use of operating
          5    experience, especially NRC information notices.  The Unit 3
          6    configuration management effort did utilize a significant
          7    amount of operating experience, but the scope did not
          8    explicitly require a review of NRC information notices.  As
          9    a result, despite several opportunities, we missed the RSS
         10    air-binding issue.
         11              To address the extent of the potential for air
         12    binding as well as any other operating experience issues
         13    that relate to system-to-system interactions, we expanded
         14    our reviews to an integrated system functional review.  This
         15    review, which drew heavily upon operating experience, looks
         16    specifically at system interfaces and system-to-system
         17    interactions.
         18              The team consisted of a multi-discipline group of
         19    engineering, operating and operating experienced personnel
         20    and has been in place since late October of last year.  The
         21    team is also performing reviews of the FSAR with a
         22    particular focus on the interface between the AE and the
         23    NSSS design safety system functions.
         24              Additional reviews of NRC information notices is
         25    also currently taking place to ensure that our scope has
            
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          1    been adequate.  With respect to the other items on this
          2    slide, reviews and any needed corrective actions are being
          3    pursued.  You will note that several of these items are
          4    consistent with the preliminary ICAVP contractor DR trend
          5    results to be presented later by Sargent & Lundy.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Has your management team in any
          7    way been surprised at the amount of work necessary for you
          8    to regain your assurance of conformance with the design and
          9    license basis?
         10              MR. BOWLING:  I don't know if surprise is the
         11    right word.  Clearly, we have learned a lot as we have gone
         12    through this process, and I have to say that it started --
         13    the process started with an organization that was not at the
         14    level of performance that we have today or that met a
         15    standard, so it's a process of increasing standards.
         16              The other aspect of this which I think is
         17    important is that I mentioned several times that we did a
         18    graded safety review.  In other words, this review stopped
         19    when conformance to design and licensing basis was
         20    confirmed.  The ICAVP review goes deeper in the sense that
         21    it's looking at essentially all calculations and drawings
         22    that relate to the systems that are in scope.  I think this
         23    is the explanation for a lot of the Level 4's.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you one last
         25    question given what you just said.  You know, when I was on
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          1    site, I met a number of contractors.
          2              MR. BOWLING:  Yes.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You know, I was walking around
          4    to meet employees, and I did that, I met a number, but I
          5    also met a lot of contractors, and I guess -- what is your
          6    assessment today?  One has to do with standards, but the
          7    other actually has to do with actual capabilities, of the
          8    strength that the organization has in engineering, you know,
          9    given that a lot of these kinds of issues, at least, that we
         10    are discussing at the moment, depend on that area, and one
         11    of these days, the contractors are going to be gone.
         12              MR. BOWLING:  Right.  Certainly, the knowledge
         13    transfer is a critical issue for us.  I would say that in
         14    our system engineering area that we are less reliant on
         15    contractors, and they have been involved heavily in the
         16    process.  In addition, we have done a lot to document with
         17    design basis summaries of the key safety-related functions
         18    and systems so that we have that record.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         20              MR. BOWLING:  We are also looking at the ICAVP
         21    Discrepancy Reports, DRs, and although, individually, most
         22    are not safety significant, in aggregate, they may indicate
         23    an area requiring program enhancement.  We will make these
         24    enhancements upon confirming that the DRs and the trends are
         25    valid.
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          1              The trends that we are currently evaluating do not
          2    indicate any programmatic weakness or breakdowns, but will
          3    likely afford an opportunity to improve.
          4              With respect to the DRs, we are on track to
          5    respond to all that have currently been received from the
          6    ICAVP contractor by the end of February.  We currently have
          7    212 remaining to respond to.
          8              As of February 11th, we have responded to 634,
          9    subsequently we have responded to more, as I indicated.
         10              The single level 2 DR for Unit 3 relates to a
         11    number transposition error and a degraded voltage
         12    calculation.  This error was in a non-conservative
         13    direction, but sufficient voltage is available for the
         14    effected safety-related equipment to perform its safety
         15    function and the design basis was met.  We have responded
         16    with the technical information to support a level 4
         17    reclassification of this issue, which we believe the ICAVP
         18    contractor will confirm.
         19              Again, the remaining DRs are scheduled to be
         20    responded to by the end of February.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you, you know, and I
         22    know the focus has been on Unit 3, but from where you sit,
         23    is there a difference, or a detectable difference in the
         24    threshold for calculating level of significance between
         25    Sargent & Lundy and Parsons?
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          1              MR. BOWLING:  Yes.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Would you speak to that for a
          3    second?
          4              MR. BOWLING:  I am not sure I can give you the
          5    answer that you are looking for.  I do see a difference in
          6    the determinations of significant levels, but I think maybe
          7    the NRC staff would be better able to answer that.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
          9              MR. BOWLING:  If I could have the next slide. 
         10    Based on the 634 responses that we have made through
         11    February 11th, and recognizing that only about 30 percent
         12    have been closed by the ICAVP contractor, we can generally
         13    conclude that the Unit 3 reviews have identified most of the
         14    design and licensing basis issues.  To date, NU has
         15    confirmed that only seven of 634 DRs are of level 3
         16    significance, which is a design and/or licensing basis
         17    issue, but does not affect or operability or functionality,
         18    and which has been characterized to be of low safety
         19    significance.
         20              This slide shows the safety significance of what
         21    has been identified during the Millstone Unit 3 reviews and
         22    the ICAVP inspections.  It is important to note that no LERs
         23    have resulted to date from any of the over 600 ICAVP DRs
         24    that we have reviewed to date.  This provides a strong
         25    indicator that the Unit 3 reviews to restore conformance to
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          1    the design and licensing basis were effective in identifying
          2    significant safety issues.
          3              With respect --
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What percentage did you tell me
          5    were closed?
          6              MR. BOWLING:  Thirty.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thirty percent.
          8              MR. BOWLING:  Approximately.  With respect to the
          9    NRC inspections, a number of potential violations have been
         10    identified, as well as several issues that have been
         11    determined by us to be reportable, and from yesterday, that
         12    has gone up to four items.
         13              These issues and potential violations also have
         14    not been of high safety significance, at least the three
         15    that I have on my slide.  Nonetheless, as previously
         16    discussed, we have already taken both the NRC preliminary
         17    findings and the ICAVP contractor DRs into account in our
         18    self-assessments to determine the need for additional
         19    reviews.
         20              As you know, we have informed the NRC staff, in
         21    response to Question 2 of 10 CFR 50.54(f), that over 4,000
         22    items may be deferred to after restart of Unit 3.  Question
         23    2 cast a wide net by essentially asking for all items that
         24    will not be completed prior to restart, irrespective of
         25    either safety or business significance.  Both Mike Brothers
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          1    and I will discuss these deferrals in our presentations, but
          2    I wanted to make clear that the items required to restore
          3    compliance with the design and licensing basis, as well as
          4    NRC regulations, will be completed prior to restart in key
          5    areas such as RSF prior to Mode 4 entry.
          6              For the deferred items under Question 2, we will
          7    docket our approach for managing and monitoring the
          8    post-restart backlog.  In our February 9th, '98 letter to
          9    the NRC, we committed to the Corrective Actions for any
         10    deferred level 4 DRs by the end of the next refueling
         11    outage, as well as providing periodic status on the level 4
         12    Corrective Actions.
         13              This slide shows the number of our deferred tasks
         14    resulting from both the Configuration Management Review and
         15    the ICAVP Reviews.  The 705 configuration management tasks
         16    will be addressed and either completed, scheduled or
         17    cancelled based on the value added that can be provided.
         18              Examples of what is included in the deferred
         19    backlog are listed.  About 30 percent of the 705 relate to
         20    minor drawing enhancements for labeling, pointers and
         21    designators which are not relied upon by the operator or the
         22    design engineer when using the drawing.  Only a few,
         23    approximately 12 items, are related to the FSAR and reflect
         24    grammatical or editorial preference or applied to a
         25    non-safety system.
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          1              Procedures constitute about 30 percent and include
          2    enhancements which do not affect functionality.  However, a
          3    significant number of the procedure deferrals are
          4    significant, but consist of procedures, primarily,
          5    in-service inspection, in-service testing, that will not be
          6    required until the next refueling outage.  These will be
          7    completed prior to the next refueling outage.
          8              It is also worth noting that the size of the
          9    backlog was originally 948 and is currently 697.  Our intent
         10    is to work this off as quickly as possible.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now, the numbers you are
         12    showing here, subsets of the, quote-unquote, "5,000 open
         13    items," --
         14              MR. BOWLING:  Four thousand, yes.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Four thousand.
         16              MR. BOWLING:  Forty-two.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Forty-two-hundred.
         18              MR. BOWLING:  And Mike Brothers will discuss the
         19    remainder of that.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  All right.  And so there
         21    are other categories?
         22              MR. BOWLING:  Yes.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         24              MR. BOWLING:  Which Mike will discuss.  But I
         25    wanted to discuss those that may bear to one degree or
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          1    another on the design and licensing basis.
          2              Now, with respect to the ICAVP DRs, please not
          3    that these deferrable tasks of 215 represent the DR
          4    Corrective Action assignments, not the number of DRs being
          5    deferred.
          6              Now, I mentioned that we would docket our approach
          7    to this backlog.  I have several back-up slides that discuss
          8    that approach and our planned commitments to the backlog, if
          9    you would like to see those.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  We'll go on.  But let me --
         11              MR. BOWLING:  We are working with the staff on
         12    that.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you a question here. 
         14    You have a slide 62 that is further on, that says,
         15    "Discipline work prioritization process applied to identify
         16    items deferrable until after restart."  I see the 705 on
         17    that.
         18              MR. BOWLING:  Right.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But I don't see the 215.
         20              MR. BOWLING:  The 215, once they get their
         21    assignments, are collectively included in the first number
         22    there, the assignments.  They are not further bend at this
         23    point.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So they will be additive to
         25    this list?
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          1              MR. BOWLING:  No, they are inclusive.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  I see.  All right. 
          3    Okay.
          4              MR. BOWLING:  Again, none of these deferrals will
          5    affect conformance to design and licensing basis.
          6              In addition to restoring conforming to design and
          7    licensing basis, we have also strengthened the programs
          8    necessary to maintain the design and licensing basis going
          9    forward.  This required correcting longstanding issues with
         10    the Design Control, Document Control, Safety Evaluation and
         11    many other programs that are required to maintain
         12    operational changes in conformance with the design and
         13    licensing basis.
         14              The tier 3 portion of the ICAVP looked
         15    specifically at these programs, and it is worth noting that
         16    the NRC preliminary conclusion at the Public Exit on January
         17    28th was that the Millstone change control process satisfied
         18    10 CFR 50, Appendix B, and would serve to maintain a design
         19    and licensing basis.
         20              It should be noted that this NRC inspection also
         21    identified several issues which will need to be corrected
         22    prior to restart.
         23              In our August 6th meeting with you, I discussed
         24    two new and innovative organizations that we have added, a
         25    Configuration Management organization for each unit and an
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          1    Engineering Assurance function.  These organizations which
          2    increase our confidence that future changes will be made in
          3    conformance with the design and licensing basis are now
          4    staffed and functioning for both Units 2 and 3.
          5              In addition, there is a dedicated Nuclear
          6    Oversight Surveillance of the configuration control change
          7    process and we have completed most of the specialized
          8    configuration management training for over 1200 personnel in
          9    Unit 3 and the groups that support Unit 3.  Unit 2 training
         10    is currently ongoing.
         11              Finally, self-assessment and performance
         12    monitoring is being utilized to evaluate the effectiveness
         13    of the Configuration Management Programs.
         14              In summary, the actions that have been taken to
         15    date to restor and maintain conformance to the design and
         16    licensing basis, and to address longstanding safety,
         17    programmatic, organization, human performance and technical
         18    issues are being effective.  Still, we recognize that all
         19    Corrective Actions necessary to restore full compliance have
         20    not yet been completed.  However, the work completed has
         21    been substantial and to acceptable standards.
         22              The remaining work to support the restart
         23    readiness is on track and will restore conformance with the
         24    design and licensing basis and NRC regulations.  The
         25    organizations, programs and processes are also in place to
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          1    maintain conformance.
          2              The ICAVP Reviews to date indicate that Millstone
          3    3, Configuration Management Review and Programs have been
          4    effective in identifying almost all of the issues of safety
          5    significance, including those issues necessary to restore
          6    compliance with the design and licensing basis.  In saying
          7    this, I recognize that the entire Millstone organization
          8    must continue in its pursuit of a healthy respect for
          9    regulations from both an intent and compliance standpoint,
         10    and that we must continue to demonstrate timely and
         11    effective Corrective Actions.
         12              In conclusion, I do believe that our overall
         13    Corrective Actions approach is robust and that we have the
         14    programs and organizations in place to now support the
         15    conduct of safe operations.
         16              If there are no --
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         18              MR. BOWLING:  If there are no further questions, I
         19    will turn it over to Mike.
         20              MR. BROTHERS:  Good morning.  The purpose of my
         21    presentation today is to discuss the readiness of Millstone
         22    Unit 3 to return to power operation.  My assessment of
         23    Millstone Unit 3's readiness is as follows:  The Unit is
         24    tracking as satisfactory with regard to readiness to support
         25    power operation.  This assessment is made up of four broad
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          1    areas, physical readiness, regulatory readiness,
          2    organizational readiness, and operational readiness.
          3              The start-up and power extension plan in
          4    supporting organization support is satisfactory to support
          5    restart.  This is currently satisfactory.  The Unit backlogs
          6    are tracking as satisfactory to support restart.
          7              The metrics presented on the next slides are
          8    designed to support these conclusions.  One overall point to
          9    make is that the slides that you have are up-to-date as of
         10    February 6th, 1998.  Because we are rapidly readiness to
         11    enter Mode 4, these small numbers of remaining items are
         12    decreasing rapidly.  I will give you the current numbers in
         13    my presentation today.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Can I get you to slow down a
         15    little bit?
         16              MR. MORRIS:  You're working on the same issue we
         17    are working on.
         18              MR. BROTHERS:  There's a contrast between me and
         19    --
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Mr. Bowling set you up.
         21              MR. BROTHERS:  Next slide.  Under the topic of
         22    physical readiness, this slide shows the number of
         23    modifications which remain to support restart.  As of
         24    February 13th, 1998, there were five modifications
         25    remaining, of which one is working in the field.  The four
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          1    are engineering modifications that don't require physical
          2    work.
          3              It should be noted that the total number of
          4    modifications required for restart that have been performed
          5    to date is 216.  The five remaining modifications bring the
          6    total to 221 modifications required for restart.  This does
          7    not include the potential mod required to resolve the RHS
          8    MOV 610 and 611 cycling problem that we discussed earlier.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you have emergent mods?  I
         10    mean when was the last new mod added?  Are there ones that
         11    are popping up?
         12              MR. BROTHERS:  Yes.  We had a mod added on
         13    Saturday that was associated with a DWST, demineralized
         14    water storage tank uncertainty.  It is not a physical mod,
         15    but it's a modification to support the calculation.  So they
         16    are coming up, and they get assessed per our PI 20 criteria
         17    as to whether or not they're required for restart.
         18              This metric is tracking a satisfactory.
         19              Continuing on our physical readiness, this slide
         20    depicts our current status of online orders.  The total
         21    number of work orders remaining as of February 11 is 665. 
         22    All of these work orders have been individually assessed as
         23    meeting our deferral criteria.  We are on track to work the
         24    existing numbers down to our goals of 500 power block and 50
         25    maintenance rule or PRA significant work orders prior to
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          1    resuming power operation.  In my discussion of backlogs I
          2    will give a more detailed breakdown of the 665 remaining
          3    work orders.  This metric is tracking a satisfactory.
          4              Now shifting to regulatory readiness, Marty talked
          5    earlier about the completion rate of NRC commitments
          6    required for restart.  To recap what he said, we currently
          7    have 77 remaining commitments to address prior to restart,
          8    none of which are overdue.  The total number of commitments
          9    which have been addressed up to now is 691.  This metric is
         10    tracking a satisfactory.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And you don't anticipate asking
         12    to defer any of these?
         13              MR. BROTHERS:  That's correct.
         14              Also under regulatory readiness this slide shows
         15    our current significant items list status.  As of February
         16    12, 1998, we had six packages remaining to submit out of a
         17    total of 216.  This list corresponds to the 86 zones in the
         18    NRC's Millstone 3 specific attachment to manual chapter
         19    0350.  We are on track to have all the packages submitted
         20    for review and closure to support unit restart.  We believe
         21    that the quality of packages continues to be good.  This
         22    metric is tracking a satisfactory.
         23              This slide shows our current status on the 5054F
         24    significant items required for restart.  As Marty said, as
         25    of February 17, 1998, we have 252 items remaining to be
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          1    closed out of a total of 4,284 items.  The 4,284 is
          2    different than the 3,876 shown on a previous slide.  The
          3    reason for that is because of the way as Bruce characterized
          4    the net being cast as TRs come in and they do in fact become
          5    automated work orders, they become deferable or
          6    nondeferable.  So that is a moving number.  So we have 252
          7    out of 4,284 items.  These items are also on track to
          8    support Millstone Unit 3 restart.  This metric is tracking a
          9    satisfactory.
         10              This slide shows our current LER submittal rate
         11    for Millstone Unit 3.  The solid portion of the bars are
         12    current LERs, and the cross-hatched portions are historical
         13    LERs.  This slide shows that we are below the industry
         14    standard of approximately two LERs per month, although we do
         15    acknowledge that the fact that we are in Mode 5 makes this a
         16    non-like-to-like comparison.  In addition, the 5072 prompt
         17    report that went out yesterday will be an LER.
         18              The historical LERs being reported shows that our
         19    low threshold and questioning attitude continues to be
         20    fostered at Millstone station.  As we return to power
         21    operation we will monitor our performance in this area. 
         22    This monitoring, however, will be on a strictly benchmarking
         23    manner to preclude the adverse consequences of trying to
         24    directly improve this indicator.  This metric is
         25    satisfactory.
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          1              The third broad topic under unit readiness is
          2    organizational readiness.  This slide shows our
          3    organizational readiness assessment as of February 10, 1998. 
          4    This methodology complements the nuclear oversight restart
          5    verification plan by assessing departmental readiness,
          6    whereas the nuclear oversight restart verification plan
          7    assesses the issue of programmatic readiness.
          8              An easy distinction between the two assessments is
          9    to contrast this assessment of the corrective action which
         10    addresses the departmental effectiveness of the correction
         11    action department versus the nuclear oversight restart
         12    verification plan assessment of corrective action which
         13    addresses the broader implications of the effectiveness of
         14    the corrective action program at Millstone Unit 3.
         15              With the above explanation in mind, let me discuss
         16    the organization is assessed as not yet a goal but tracking
         17    a satisfactory for Millstone Unit 3.  As of February 10 the
         18    operations department is assessed as tracking a satisfactory
         19    based upon training that is required for Mode 4 and not yet
         20    being complete for all shift personnel.  As of today that
         21    should be in fact done.
         22              This will be completed prior to Mode 4 and the
         23    operations department will be satisfactory prior to entry
         24    into Mode 4.
         25              Work planning outage management is assessed as
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          1    tracking a satisfactory based upon schedule adherence not
          2    yet being at our operational goal of 75 percent of planned
          3    activity starting on time and 70 percent of those planned
          4    activities completing on time.  Our current percentages are
          5    62 percent and 55 percent respectively.  This is not
          6    expected to be a goal before entry into Mode 4, but will be
          7    a goal prior to entry into Mode 2.
          8              Maintenance planning is assessed as tracking a
          9    satisfactory based upon the restart backlog goals not yet
         10    being a target, but all the items are tracking a
         11    satisfactory.  These goals are also Mode 2 goals.
         12              Training is assessed as tracking a satisfactory
         13    based upon the fact that we have not yet completed our
         14    evaluations as to the extent of the systems approach to
         15    training problems within training and the Millstone Unit 3
         16    shift technical advisor program status.  Both of these two
         17    areas will be satisfactory for Millstone Unit 3 prior to
         18    entry into Mode 4.
         19              Licensing is assessed as tracking a satisfactory
         20    based upon the continued need to extend an excessive
         21    percentage of commitments.  This is expected to be evaluated
         22    as satisfactory for Millstone Unit 3 prior to entry into
         23    Mode 4.
         24              Finally, management is assessed as tracking a
         25    satisfactory based upon greater than five percent of CR
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          1    evaluations taking longer than 30 days.  As discussed by
          2    Dave Amerine in his discussion on CR evaluation timeliness,
          3    the average age of evaluations is less than 30 days, and the
          4    quality of evaluations continues to remain high.  Increased
          5    attention is being applied to this area, and we will assess
          6    overall management effectiveness as satisfactory prior to
          7    entry into Mode 4.
          8              In summary, we expect all departments with the
          9    exception of work planning, outage management, and
         10    maintenance planning to be assessed as satisfactory prior to
         11    entry into Mode 4.  In addition, all of the departments will
         12    be assessed as satisfactory prior to entry into Mode 2.
         13              This slide under the overall topic of operational
         14    readiness shows our current number of temporary
         15    modifications which are installed on Millstone Unit 3.  Our
         16    goal is to have less than 15 temporary modifications
         17    installed prior to entry into Mode 2.  We currently have 18
         18    temporary modifications installed, three of which are for
         19    outage support.  We are on track to meet this goal prior to
         20    entry into Mode 2.  This metric is tracking to satisfactory.
         21              Continuing under operational readiness, this slide
         22    shows our current status on control room and enunciator
         23    deficiencies.  Our goal is to have less than ten
         24    deficiencies prior to entry into Mode 2.  As of February 11,
         25    1998, we have nine deficiencies.  This metric is
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          1    satisfactory.
          2              This slide shows our current number of operator
          3    workarounds at Millstone Unit No. 3.  Our definition of an
          4    operator workaround is based upon industry standard
          5    definition.  Our goal is to have less than ten operator
          6    workarounds prior to entry into Mode 2.  As of February 8,
          7    1998, we have eight operator workarounds.  This metric is
          8    satisfactory.
          9              This slide shows our percentage of low
         10    significance or precursor events as a percentage of all
         11    human error events.  It is desirable to have a high
         12    percentage of low-significance errors to total errors to
         13    allow for the implementation of corrective action at a lower
         14    threshold, thereby preventing more significant events.  An
         15    example of a precursor event will be a tagging error caught
         16    by the individual performing the second check of the tag.
         17              A higher level event or near-miss would be the
         18    same error missed by the second checked but caught by the
         19    worker prior to commencing work.  A breakthrough event would
         20    be a failure of all the barriers, the initial tagger, the
         21    second checker, and the worker, and then work actually being
         22    performed on an incorrectly tagged component.
         23              We have set an extremely high percentage goal in
         24    this area of greater than or equal to 95 percent of all
         25    human errors being classified as low significance precursor
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          1    errors.  Although in December we fell to 92 percent, in
          2    January our performance was once again at goal, and as this
          3    slide shows, our general performance exceeded goal for the
          4    last seven months.
          5              During that same time, there have been no
          6    breakthrough events in which all the barriers failed or
          7    significant consequences have occurred.  This metric is
          8    satisfactory.
          9              This slide shows our current errors per 1000 hours
         10    worked for technical and administrative procedures at
         11    Millstone Unit 3.  We show an increase in both the technical
         12    and administrative error rate in December.  As Bruce pointed
         13    out in his summary remarks, this caused us to change our
         14    assessment from satisfactory to tracking to satisfactory in
         15    the area of procedure compliance.
         16              January's levels returned to approximately our
         17    previously low historic values, but continued good
         18    performance in this area is required before we once again
         19    rate procedure compliance as satisfactory for Millstone Unit
         20    3.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Why do you feel you have the
         22    problems in the administrative procedures area this far down
         23    the line?
         24              MR. BROTHERS:  We have taken a look at that.  I
         25    think what you had was the same type of thing we
            
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          1    demonstrated in the timeliness evaluation during the January
          2    time frame.  The December period of work at Millstone Unit 3
          3    was the most extensive period of work that we had for the
          4    last two years, and I think we saw the corresponding --
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You said because of the
          6    concentration of the work?
          7              MR. BROTHERS:  Yes, the physical work and driving
          8    to complete the integrated leak rate test in the beginning
          9    of January was compressing, and in our view was what caused
         10    things to happen.
         11              This metric is tracking to satisfactory.
         12              This slide shows an overview of our heat-up,
         13    start-up and power ascension program.  I have seven points
         14    to make here.
         15              We have an approved procedure which governs a
         16    heat-up, start-up and power ascension of Millstone Unit 3
         17    which takes into account the fact that we have been in cold
         18    shutdown for approximately two years.  We have a dedicated
         19    start-up organization which has been in place since January
         20    12th, 1998, to provide integration and management support as
         21    the unit returns to power operation.
         22              We currently have in place shift mentors for
         23    operations which we will expand with NU and non-NU senior
         24    reactor operators as the unit returns to service.
         25              Our operating crews are visiting operating plants
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          1    and have observed plant start-ups during the last few
          2    months.
          3              Specific heat-up and start-up training will be
          4    provided to all operating crews.  Training on modifications
          5    has been largely completed and will be completed for all
          6    crews prior to entering mode four.
          7              Finally, the dates and the days given here are to
          8    provide a framework for planning only.  We will conduct a
          9    measured and controlled return-to-power operation, taking
         10    whatever time is required.  Unit management will not rush to
         11    return this unit to service.  My unit and engineering
         12    directors will recommend to me and receive permission from
         13    me prior to making any mode change as the unit is sequenced
         14    back to power operation.
         15              This slide shows the current numbers for the seven
         16    broad areas which make up our deferrable items.  I have
         17    previously discussed the corrective maintenance, operator
         18    work-arounds, control room deficiencies, and temp mods, and
         19    Marty has discussed the configuration and management items
         20    in his presentation.
         21              The remaining items, corrective action
         22    assignments, corrective maintenance, and engineering
         23    backlogs have been individually reviewed by our management
         24    review team and expert panels.
         25              The next three slides further characterize our
            
               
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          1    current progress in the areas of corrective action
          2    assignments, corrective maintenance and engineering backlog.
          3              This slide gives a breakdown of our deferrable
          4    corrective action assignments.  Roughly half of these items
          5    fall into the area of minor procedure or documentation
          6    improvements.  None of these, or any of the remaining
          7    deferrable items, affect the design or licensing basis of
          8    Millstone Unit No. 3.
          9              A review by our probabilistic risk assessment
         10    group has been conducted on all of these assignments.  This
         11    review first screened the 2260 items to look at only
         12    maintenance rule items.  As you know, the maintenance rule
         13    includes systems which are risk and safety-significant,
         14    systems which are risk or safety-significant, and systems
         15    which are in scope, but are neither risk nor
         16    safety-significant.
         17              This screen reduced the 2260 items to
         18    approximately 1000 items.  These 1000 items were
         19    individually reviewed by a team in our PRA group.  This
         20    review identified approximately 250 items which required
         21    additional information to verify that they were in fact
         22    deferrable.
         23              Additional information was provided on those 250
         24    items, and the final result was the identification of 11
         25    items out of the original 2260 for further consideration by
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          1    line management.  This consideration is under way.
          2              I do want to point out that this review has not
          3    yet been conducted on the engineering backlog that you see
          4    in two more slides.  Within that engineering backlog was the
          5    RHS issue that we discussed earlier.  That review will
          6    occur, however, prior to entering mode two.
          7              I consider this an excellent cooperative effort
          8    with our organization that gives us added assurance that our
          9    deferrable items are properly characterized.
         10              This slide shows our breakdown of our corrective
         11    maintenance backlog.  Approximately 52 percent of this
         12    backlog is associated with maintenance rule systems, and
         13    none of these items affect system operability.
         14              Let me just describe what these headings mean.  An
         15    example of a non-functional component which does not affect
         16    system operability would be a non-functional local
         17    temperature indicator on a piping system.  The system is so
         18    operable with a non-functional temperature indicator.  It
         19    should be emphasized that this classification cannot be
         20    applied to any component directly covered by technical
         21    specifications or used to ensure continued operability for
         22    any technical specification, component or system.
         23              Equipment which is functional characterization
         24    covers minor degradation which does not in any way affect
         25    component or system operability.
            
               
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          1              The remaining 48 percent of our power backlog is
          2    associated with non-maintenance rule systems, so they are
          3    not risk, not safety-significant, and not in scope.
          4              This slide characterizes our current engineering
          5    deferrable items.  65 percent of this backlog is associated
          6    with enhancements or modifications which have been screened
          7    by unit management as appropriate for future consideration,
          8    but unnecessary to perform at this time.  20 percent of the
          9    engineering backlog is devoted to component level
         10    engineering in which, for some reason, an exact replacement
         11    part is not available.
         12              The remaining 15 percent is made up of items such
         13    as administrative actions or organizational/programmatic
         14    enhancements.  As I described earlier, our corrective action
         15    assignment backlog has been screened for individual and
         16    aggregate impact by our PRA group.
         17              As we approach mode two, we are continuing to work
         18    down all of our deferrable item areas.  As such, we will
         19    perform another assessment of the aggregate impact of all
         20    deferrable items shortly before entering mode two.
         21              It should also be emphasized that we have
         22    benchmarked ourselves against recent industry experience for
         23    all the metrics I have presented today.  Millstone Unit 3's
         24    goals, when stacked against these goals, compares favorably
         25    to units which have recently started up after extended
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          1    outages.
          2              In summary, we believe that Millstone Unit 3 will
          3    shortly be ready to enter mode four and begin the controlled
          4    sequence which will lead us to meeting all our goals and
          5    satisfying the prerequisites for mode two by late March of
          6    1998.  Millstone Unit 3 is on track to return to power
          7    operation with the unit ready from a physical, regulatory,
          8    organizational and operational standpoint.
          9              Our start-up and power ascension program is in
         10    place and ready to support the unit.  Our backlogs are at
         11    reasonable levels and have been screened both internally and
         12    externally, from an individual and aggregate impact
         13    standpoint, to fully support our plans to be ready in all
         14    aspects by late March of 1998 to return to power operations.
         15              If there are no questions, I'll turn it over to
         16    Dave Goebel to discuss nuclear oversight's current
         17    assessment.
         18              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes, if I might go back to
         19    your figure on Table 62 of slide 62, I'm sure that Mr.
         20    Morris saw this and understood very well every one of these
         21    items, but I didn't.  And I know that now you have gone and
         22    explained it.  This figure, when I saw it yesterday, you
         23    know, created some concerns because, you know, we started
         24    with a series of 6000 issues, and then we classified them. 
         25    I would recommend that, you know, when you get back in here,
            
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          1    you take this and do like what you did in your quick
          2    presentation, you know, like saying there are only 11 of
          3    2260 items that are being considered.  That narrows the
          4    scope down significantly.  If not, it looks like an
          5    insurmountable task to be done, you know.  And clearly, you
          6    know, there are differences in here that need to be reviewed
          7    to determine the risk significance, and obviously you have
          8    been doing all of those things, and I hope you keep doing
          9    it.  But it's not obvious from this table when you look at
         10    it.  And I strongly recommend it, please.  You know,
         11    separate them, even when you put them in a table that, you
         12    know, it's not clear at all what the meaning of these things
         13    are.
         14              MR. BROTHERS:  Thank you.
         15              MR. GOEBEL:  Good morning.  Today I would like to
         16    present the current status of the nuclear oversight restart
         17    verification plan for Unit 3.  The data is shown on this
         18    slide.
         19              I would like first to review what the slide
         20    depicts.  There are 21 issues; each is listed on the
         21    left-hand side of the slide.  These were taken from the 16
         22    in the summary book which we provided you, and selected
         23    other issues which I feel are important.
         24              One item in the latter category is materials, and
         25    another is engineering.
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          1              Attributes are evaluated for each issue, and those
          2    attributes are derived from the NRC's manual chapter 0350,
          3    INPO guidance, in particular 96-006, and other relevant
          4    documents.  The attributes are evaluated throughout a
          5    two-week period and the summary scores derived.  A roll-up
          6    of the scores in a given area resulting from this look is
          7    then related to a color, either red for significant, yellow
          8    for improvement needed, or green for satisfactory.  Those
          9    colors are then displayed on this slide.
         10              In general, for an issue to change color, two
         11    evaluation periods at the new level are needed.
         12              Since our last meeting, there is leadership,
         13    corrective action, configuration of management, regulatory
         14    compliance, conduct of operations, and environmental
         15    monitoring have turned green, while procedure quality and
         16    procedure adherence has gone from green to yellow, as
         17    problems once fixed have resurfaced, and this has been
         18    discussed previously.
         19              You will note a green dot adjacent to the
         20    emergency preparedness area.  If all goes well, this area
         21    will turn green this week.  At the last evaluation two weeks
         22    ago, it had exceeded the limit to move into the green area.
         23              There are three key areas which are in yellow that
         24    are impacting our moving forward.  There are others that are
         25    yellow, but today I am comfortable with their status.  The
            
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          1    three areas which require increased management attention are
          2    procedure quality adherence, training, and work control and
          3    planning, and those have been discussed by other gentlemen
          4    at this table earlier.
          5              I would like to discuss each area as each is
          6    clearly defined activities which require improvement.  It is
          7    my opinion that if these activities are completed, these
          8    areas will achieve a green status and be ready for restart.
          9              The first is procedure quality, procedure
         10    adherence.  Procedure quality has improved since the last
         11    briefing, but adherence issues have resurfaced.  Those areas
         12    which require increased management attention include
         13    increased coaching by the first-line supervisor.  You recall
         14    the last time I stated that increased first line supervision
         15    time in the field is the most beneficial change we can make
         16    in this area.
         17              Another area requiring attention is providing
         18    feedback to all affected workers on problem areas, and the
         19    third is holding people accountable for adherence problems.
         20              Additionally, we need to prioritize and complete
         21    the remaining procedures which are required for restart.  I
         22    don't see this as a problem, but additional work must be
         23    done in this area.
         24              In the area of work control and planning, which is
         25    another area requiring increased management attention, we
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          1    need to improve our schedule adherence, and Mike Brothers
          2    has mentioned that.
          3              The primary sources of schedule adherence
          4    difficulties are work package quality, work release start
          5    times, work prioritization, and schedule development
          6    assumptions.
          7              Among the issues in this latter category -- that
          8    is schedule development assumptions -- we need to improve
          9    the coordination between operations and the various work
         10    groups in establishing a schedule.
         11              Additionally, we need to obtain management support
         12    and accountability for accomplishing this schedule as it is
         13    laid out.
         14              In the training area, the training area is one of
         15    great importance to the organization and has been discussed
         16    previously, as the others have.
         17              Increased attention is required in several areas. 
         18    Complete the qualification of systems engineers prior to
         19    final system verification of readiness for start-up must be
         20    done.  We need to ensure that the system's approach to
         21    training is functioning for Unit 3 as it was designed.  We
         22    need to ensure that items from the corrective action plan
         23    which resulted from the shutdown of training are properly
         24    closed, and on a longer term basis we need to verify that
         25    the proper staffing skills are present within the
            
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          1    organization.
          2              As I said, these three remaining areas provide the
          3    biggest barrier to near-term success, and additional effort
          4    is needed to ensure that success.
          5              Subject to any questions, I'll pass it back to
          6    Bruce for his closing remarks.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Tell me again about the
          8    emergency preparedness area that's been tracking steadily
          9    yellow.
         10              MR. GOEBEL:  Right.  At the last session, which
         11    --and I hold these sessions -- the people do the work on a
         12    daily basis.  We have a roll-up on a two-week basis, and at
         13    the last roll-up two weeks ago, it will be reviewed again
         14    today and tomorrow, but two weeks ago, with a score that
         15    could drive it into the green area as being a 70 cut-off, it
         16    received a score of 80.  So for a two-week period preceding
         17    that, it was essentially green, but we have an internal
         18    process where we don't change the color because we want it
         19    to sustain and hold; we just don't want a fluke up or down. 
         20    So if it goes well this week, then I expect it to sustain
         21    and stay at that level, and my information from my people
         22    who are doing this week are the indications that it will
         23    stay there, it will go up.  I need to wait and get the
         24    score.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
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          1              MR. KENYON:  Chairman Jackson and Commissioners,
          2    we appreciate the opportunity to brief you regarding our
          3    progress.  Certainly as a result of recent events and this
          4    meeting, we recognize the need to deal with the RHS valve
          5    cycling issue.  We will do that.  We will look at it for its
          6    implications, and we certainly understand that we need to
          7    test that against what it means for the credibility of our
          8    deferred items list, and we will do that.
          9              We also have what I have referred to as the
         10    oversight event playing out, and I need to get the remaining
         11    information there, but I want to assure you that I will take
         12    appropriate action in due course and with every intention of
         13    demonstrating that this organization can and will handle,
         14    with careful deliberation, even of a serious event such as
         15    this, and this really should set the stage for an
         16    understanding of how this organization -- it's not that we
         17    never have an event, but it's when we have one, we know how
         18    to handle it and handle it responsibly.
         19              We have an understandable concern on your part on
         20    the nature of the backlog, and Commissioner Diaz, we
         21    understand the need to make our -- whereas we are
         22    comfortable, we have a responsibility to portray the
         23    information in a way that's clear as to what's outstanding. 
         24    We need to do it in a way that makes a clearer statement as
         25    to its relevance, its significance, and we will do that.
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          1              Having said all that, I think we are close.  We
          2    have a manageable amount of work remaining.  I think that
          3    performance indicators show that, and certainly I look
          4    forward to our next briefing, and the work force and the
          5    leadership team is starting to get excited after a long
          6    haul.
          7              Mike, do you want to add?
          8              MR. MORRIS:  I would just close with one comment,
          9    Chairperson Jackson.  You asked a question about whether we
         10    were surprised on the amount of effort that it's taken to
         11    get to where we are today, particularly with the license and
         12    design bases.  I think we are impressed with what it has
         13    taken, deeply impressed with what it has taken, and by that
         14    I mean to say that we understand what it would be like, I
         15    think, to be on the other side of this gap again, and I
         16    think this team is prepared, from the comments that you have
         17    seen today and the data that you have seen today, that if
         18    you believe with us that we are ready to come back on line,
         19    we understand what it is going to take to stay there,
         20    because we never want to have to do this again.  It is an
         21    impressive amount of work.
         22              Thank you.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, thank you.
         24              Normally I would wait till the very end to make
         25    some comments to you, but I will, and they are in the way of
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          1    reinforcing some things that in fact Mr. Kenyon has already
          2    spoken to.
          3              You know, we have a responsibility in making our
          4    decisions with fairness, and that creates a very narrow line
          5    that we end up having to walk, and many times the question
          6    is raised of, well, if any other unit or licensee in the
          7    country had the degree of scrutiny that you folks have had,
          8    would not these kinds of issues have turned up then?  And
          9    wouldn't we find some lack of conformance with design or
         10    licensing basis issues?  Would we not find some of the kinds
         11    of employee concerns, difficulties, et cetera, that the
         12    licensee has had?  And, you know, I tend not to get into
         13    those discussions, and I will tell you why:  fundamentally
         14    because we can't do that, because we are where we are, and
         15    that's what we end up having to deal with in the end.  And
         16    even though most of you who are the incumbents in the
         17    position today were not in these positions when at least
         18    this latest episode began, the organization got to where it
         19    is because of its historical problems and historical
         20    patterns and the longevity of those problems, and a history
         21    of perhaps pencil-whipping problems away, and in some sense
         22    you come to a point where in a way that something that you
         23    are struggling with is the issue of if we can't have
         24    confidence relative to the little things, it raises
         25    questions about the confidence with respect to big things. 
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          1    And that's what the results in the end have to demonstrate,
          2    that it is a comprehensive approach to dealing with things,
          3    such that, yes, at any given time there can be items that
          4    pop up, items that are unresolved.
          5              The obvious confidence one is going to have is
          6    particularly the things that have the greatest safety
          7    significance are addressed, but that is undergirded by an
          8    approach and a philosophy and a way of doing things that
          9    says one aggressively goes after issues and gets to the root
         10    of them, and therefore, in looking at how deferred items are
         11    evaluated, how they are addressed, what you do ends up
         12    having to be evaluated in that regard.  It's not -- it may
         13    not make you happy, but in the end it does come to that, and
         14    that's why the recent issue -- and we all recognize that it
         15    has to be fully evaluated and all of its implications drawn
         16    out -- but why it is troubling with regard to everything I
         17    have laid out.  Because of its implications for
         18    self-discovery of problems, robustness of evaluations.  And
         19    so it is very important that it get reviewed, not just for
         20    the issue-specific clarification or, yes, if it's a Part 21
         21    issue, then we are going to have to deal with that from the
         22    broader perspective.
         23              But you have to look at it from both its generic
         24    implications, but it's important that you give everything,
         25    whether it's 4200 or 5000, whatever the number is, a
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          1    complete scrub, obviously with respect to safety
          2    significance.  That's the base line.
          3              But one really does have to ask the question of if
          4    there are historical items, then you are kind of on the spot
          5    as to say why, particularly if they are in a
          6    safety-significant system, but just generally because of
          7    what I said.  If it's historical, why should you continue to
          8    defer it?  And I'll say more at the end.  And I appreciate
          9    the comment -- I think it's implicit in something you said,
         10    Mr. Brothers, about having the total review of all of the
         11    engineering items.  And so the question is, as you go
         12    forward to do that, then you have to ensure that you don't
         13    miss things like this, because we are where we are.
         14              MR. MORRIS:  We fully understand that.  We will
         15    tighten the mesh on our screen and rerun.  We understand
         16    your point.  Thank you.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         18              We will now hear from Sargent & Lundy.
         19              As is structured, we are going to hear from
         20    Sargent & Lundy, and then from Parsons Power.
         21              MR. ERLER:  As we have done before, Sargent &
         22    Lundy will provide some lead-in to cover both overall review
         23    process and then the details on Unit 3 review that it
         24    completed.  I am Brian Erler, the project director for the
         25    ICAVP for Unit 3 for Sargent & Lundy, and Don Schopfer, the
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          1    project manager for the review team.  Don will present the
          2    summary.
          3              MR. SCHOPFER:  Good morning.
          4              The first slide we have is again it's sort of a
          5    refresher of the structure of the ICAVP, and I'll go through
          6    these rather briefly.  I know you have seen them before.
          7              The structure of the ICAVP is broken down into
          8    three tiers as required by the Commission paper 97-003. 
          9    Tier 1 is the system verification to confirm that the system
         10    selected meets the licensing and design basis, and system
         11    functionality.
         12              Tier 2 is the accident mitigation system review to
         13    determine that those systems that design parameters meet the
         14    requirements in the FSAR.
         15              And Tier 3 is the programmatic review, or the
         16    review to verify that configuration control processes have
         17    not introduced changes into the licensing and design basis.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now you can always depend upon
         19    me to do this.  If I look two slides down the road at these
         20    tiers, you marked them complete.  Now when you say that, do
         21    you conclude that you have made the verifications that are
         22    laid out in each of these tiers?
         23              MR. SCHOPFER:  We have.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Or does it mean something else?
         25              MR. SCHOPFER:  It means that we have completed the
             
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          1    discovery process and the reviews, and have identified all
          2    of the discrepancy reports, preliminary discrepancy reports
          3    from those tiers.  Now the resolution of those preliminary
          4    DRs has not been completed yet, but the review process and
          5    the discovery process and identification of any
          6    discrepancies is complete for those items.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So discovery, review and
          8    identification of the DRs --
          9              MR. SCHOPFER:  Correct.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  -- is what you mean when you
         11    say complete?
         12              MR. SCHOPFER:  Correct.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Thank you.
         14              MR. SCHOPFER:  The scope of the Tier 1 system
         15    review is as shown here.  It lists the 15 maintenance rule
         16    group 1 and 2 systems that comprise our grouping of four
         17    systems which we have used the shorthand designation at the
         18    bottom of the page in bold that describes service water,
         19    RSS, HVX, which we termed the ventilation systems,
         20    supplemental leakage collection and release system is what
         21    SLCRS stands for, and the aux building ventilation
         22    safety-related portion of the aux building ventilation and
         23    the emergency diesel generator room ventilation system.  And
         24    then the DGX system consists of the diesel generator and all
         25    the associated auxiliary systems supporting the diesel
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          1    generator and the electrical 4160 volt distribution system.
          2              As four, I'd like to mention that the scope of the
          3    review for these systems also includes the review of the
          4    electrical power feeds from each component in these systems
          5    up to the first motor control center, and then a load path
          6    review from that motor control center to the diesel
          7    generator.  Also the I&C; signals that interface with these
          8    systems from other systems are included in the review
          9    process.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I see.
         11              MR. SCHOPFER:  And any supporting systems from a
         12    mechanical standpoint also.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So let me ask you a question
         14    about the RSS.  What is your assessment of the difficulties
         15    that the licensee has had with the recirculations crisis?
         16              MR. SCHOPFER:  I am not sure I understand the
         17    question, Chairman Jackson.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, it seems that it has
         19    taken a long time to kind of, you know, come down the line,
         20    pin the problems down, get, you know, comprehensive fixes,
         21    et cetera.  But I don't want to say it, I want you to talk
         22    to me.
         23              MR. SCHOPFER:  Well, there have been a number of
         24    issues and problems associated with that, and Mike Brothers
         25    identified those.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So you basically agree with his
          2    assessment?
          3              MR. SCHOPFER:  Well, I agree with -- you asked
          4    what the problems were, and there were a number of those. 
          5    And it has -- there have been a number of modifications made
          6    to this system after we started the review.  And, in fact,
          7    as you will see on the next slide, there are some additional
          8    modifications that the staff has asked Sargent & Lundy to
          9    look at that have just been completed or are being
         10    completed.  So -- which came out of some of the earlier
         11    reviews of the previous mod.  So it has been a continuing
         12    process for the RSS system in particular.
         13              The basic system review in Tier 1 and the Tier 2
         14    and Tier 3 reviews, as we discussed a few minutes ago, is
         15    complete from the standpoint of discovery being complete,
         16    and the Discrepancy Reports being issued.  The two items
         17    remaining from -- associated with Tier 1 is these additional
         18    recirculation spray systems modifications that were given to
         19    us for review in late November of '97 and we have completed
         20    that first set of reviews.
         21              We also have these additional four modifications
         22    that the staff has asked Sargent & Lundy to look at, and
         23    those were just completed this past week or the week before. 
         24    We are in the process of receiving those packages, that
         25    calculations, those modification documents and completing
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          1    that review.  We expect to get those documents this week and
          2    we will complete our review in about two weeks after we
          3    receive everything.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Was the RSS system -- RS system
          5    operable before these modifications?
          6              MR. SCHOPFER:  I guess -- I don't know the answer
          7    to that.  They are modifications that are improvements,
          8    certainly, to some of the cycling of the valves that were
          9    occurring in the changes they made.  The other changes go
         10    back to a direct injection system into the vessel that was
         11    one of the original design and sort of undoes one of the
         12    changes, and I think the licensee had determined recently
         13    that that was an unreviewed safety question, so there were
         14    significant issues.
         15              I guess I don't know the answer.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I am going to ask the staff
         17    that, so I am giving you a heads up.
         18              MR. SCHOPFER:  The second issue of items that are
         19    being completed is the Tier 1 Corrective Action
         20    Implementation Review, and that is there was a Corrective
         21    Action Review as part of the Tier 1 system of some 1500
         22    Corrective Action documents.  We selected and screened and
         23    came up with about 250 to 260 specific Corrective Action
         24    documents that the staff wanted us to look, I'll say at more
         25    detail in the implementation, not just the Corrective Action
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          1    plan, but what the results of those Corrective Actions were
          2    in terms of, again, engineering activities, analyses,
          3    evaluations, calculations and those sorts of things.
          4              We are still obtaining some of those documents
          5    from Northeast Utilities and expect those this week and next
          6    week and, again, have about a two week completion date after
          7    we receive those documents.
          8              The final report, as noted here, is already in
          9    preparation.  We expect to be able to issue that final
         10    report approximately the end of March, based on the current
         11    schedule of completion the resolution of the Discrepancy
         12    Reports that we have issued and NU's comments earlier about
         13    their schedule for completing their responses to us.
         14              Just a brief, again, lesson or reminder of how our
         15    Discrepancy Report process works with the -- with both
         16    Sargent & Lundy and Parsons, and then I will address the
         17    comment -- the question you made about the difference
         18    between Sargent & Lundy and Parsons, threshold, perhaps, if
         19    I can.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  All right.
         21              MR. SCHOPFER:  The NRC staff and Sargent & Lundy
         22    and Parsons have developed this common process for reporting
         23    the findings identified during the review process.  An
         24    individual reviewer initiates a preliminary DR.  It
         25    undergoes an internal review process within Sargent & Lundy
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          1    or Parsons.  Upon completion of that process, the
          2    preliminary DR is issued to Northeast Utilities, the NRC and
          3    the NEAC, the state of Connecticut agency, and is posted to
          4    the web site.
          5              Northeast Utilities evaluates the preliminary DR
          6    and submits a response, and we review that response and
          7    either return it with additional comments or questions, or
          8    close the DR.  That DR --
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me ask you a question. 
         10    Closure -- is closure based on the response, or if it
         11    involves a physical non-conformance or something that has to
         12    be done, is it closure after that which has to be done is
         13    done?  Is that what closure --
         14              MR. SCHOPFER:  Closure, in our process, means that
         15    we have reviewed their response, accepted their Corrective
         16    Action plan and, in some cases, we do wait to see that
         17    action, if it is an engineering action.  If it is a
         18    significant engineering action, I guess I should say.  We do
         19    not, if they say they are going to correct the FSAR, we do
         20    not hold that open until they correct that FSAR.  That will
         21    go into their Corrective Action process and make sure that
         22    that happens.  But if they need to make a calculation change
         23    or a drawing change, or a licensing document change, and
         24    they commit to doing that, that allows us to close the DR
         25    from the standpoint of the ICAVP.
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          1              The response from NU is expected to include
          2    whether the condition identified as a discrepancy, whether
          3    they had previously identified this issue in their
          4    Configuration Management Plan, what action has been or will
          5    be taken to correct the deficiency -- the discrepancy,
          6    whether they agree with the significance level that we
          7    established and assigned to the DR, if there is any impact
          8    on plant hardware and, in the case of generic or
          9    programmatic issues, the response should also address the
         10    extent of condition.
         11              The DR may be closed based on acceptable response,
         12    and it is categorized as a confirmed DR, meaning that they
         13    agree that it is discrepancy that they had not previously
         14    identified, or it may be identified as something that they
         15    did previously identify during their process, or it may be
         16    considered non-discrepant based on additional information,
         17    technical information that has been provided by NU and we
         18    agree with that.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now, looking ahead again, your
         20    last slide indicates that your preliminary conclusions
         21    include that you have -- it was judged that calculation
         22    control and radiological calculations are weaknesses.  So
         23    does that mean that besides individual DR closures, that you
         24    actually trend and assess the more programmatic weaknesses?
         25              MR. SCHOPFER:  Yes, we do.
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          1              The next slide does show the significance level,
          2    the DR significance levels that have been assigned, created
          3    by the NRC staff and both Parsons and Sargent & Lundy use
          4    this criteria to assign significance level.  To address your
          5    comment, the question that you had earlier, is there a
          6    difference in threshold, I will answer to the extent that I
          7    can in terms of how we do it.
          8              The criteria is not so specific between level 3
          9    and level 4 that there are -- there can frequently be some
         10    level of opinion whether something should be a level 3 or
         11    level 4.  The criteria between level 1 and level 2, or
         12    between a level 1 and level 2 versus a level 3 is more
         13    clear, and I think that is probably where your comments were
         14    directed, is at level 1 and 2 versus level 3 and 4, but that
         15    is a guess on my part.
         16              The level 1 or 2 means that the system, based on
         17    the finding, the discrepancy, was not able to perform its
         18    design function, either one train or both trains.  And our
         19    approach has been, if we are able to determine that via the
         20    review and say that, then -- then we classified it as such. 
         21    If we were -- if there was a discrepancy that needed
         22    evaluation by NU to determine the extent, we classified it
         23    as level 3 with words to, in the Discrepancy Report, asking
         24    them to evaluate this so that the final significance level
         25    can be determined, and that's the approach that we have
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          1    taken.
          2              If we are able to say it doesn't function, from
          3    our review, we don't do the calculations or evaluations to
          4    determine the final outcome, that is NU's responsibility and
          5    we ask them in our DR to evaluate that so that a final
          6    significance level can be determined.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So if it requires some
          8    additional analysis, you essentially -- the default position
          9    is level 3?
         10              MR. SCHOPFER:  Correct.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And so the ultimate
         12    categorization depends upon this additional analysis?
         13              MR. ERLER:  They must complete the analysis in
         14    order to establish a significance.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And then as part of your
         16    closure, you go back and evaluate that that analysis has
         17    been done, and that the proper -- and you concur that the
         18    level assignment is what is suggested?
         19              MR. ERLER:  That is correct.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  That you accept it or reject
         21    it, is that correct?
         22              MR. SCHOPFER:  Yes.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  But the default position
         24    is level 3.  I didn't know that, that's interesting.
         25              MR. SCHOPFER:  That's the position that we have
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          1    taken to the processes.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And you are going to speak to
          3    how you do that, when you --
          4              MR. CURRY:  Yes, ma'am, I can't make a comparison,
          5    but I can talk about how --
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
          7              MR. SCHOPFER:  The next slide shows the Summary
          8    Table of the Discrepancy Reports that have been issued.  The
          9    first column is the number of -- total number of Discrepancy
         10    Reports that have been issued, broken down by the
         11    significance level.  These numbers will be different, or are
         12    different than the numbers you saw on the Northeast
         13    Utilities slide because they are taken as of a different
         14    date.  These are as of Monday of this week.  I think the NU
         15    numbers were from a different date.
         16              The second column is their responses and, as Mr.
         17    Bowling said, these numbers change now very rapidly.  Their
         18    number is well over 700 now, and our number of responses in
         19    the system and evaluations are going up.  Also, as the next
         20    slide will show.  But NU, as of this date, had responded to
         21    approximately 75 percent of the DRs that had been issued as
         22    of that date, and we have evaluated approximately 40 percent
         23    of those submitted.
         24              We have been utilizing face-to-face meetings and
         25    conference calls in accordance with established protocol to
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          1    resolve the more difficult technical Discrepancy Reports and
          2    --
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What does resolution involve?
          4              MR. SCHOPFER:  Resolution, if their response
          5    doesn't address all the issues that I laid out as what we
          6    expect on a response, if they have a technical response that
          7    our reviewers don't agree with, or don't have sufficient
          8    information to agree with, then, usually, a conference call
          9    or a meeting will be held to lay out those concerns, from
         10    our standpoint, for them to provide any responses to
         11    questions that we may have about their response.
         12              We had a series of meetings last week at Millstone
         13    where we did it by topic, where the HVAC filter unit, we had
         14    a number if discrepancies written on that, and we had a
         15    meeting that discussed about 12 or 15 individual DRs on that
         16    subject, so that we had the right people there and provided
         17    the information, and the basis for why we thought it was a
         18    particular issue, not in compliance with a requirement, and
         19    they gave their response to that.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So let me make sure I
         21    understand the statistics.  You say that NU has responded to
         22    75 percent of the DRs, and that you have reviewed 40
         23    percent.
         24              MR. SCHOPFER:  Forty percent of --
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Of the 75 percent.  So we are
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          1    talking 30 percent?
          2              MR. SCHOPFER:  Thirty percent of the total.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Of the total.  Okay.
          4              MR. SCHOPFER:  The next slide is a graph of the
          5    response, the submittal and response rate, and for the
          6    people in the -- here are the copies that were handed out. 
          7    Unfortunately, the color section, the yellow doesn't show,
          8    but it does on the screen here somewhat, and that shows the
          9    fact that NU has turned up the response rate dramatically on
         10    the Discrepancy Reports, as you can see, and our evaluation
         11    rate will follow this curve with about a two week lag to it,
         12    for us to receive the information, put it into our system
         13    and put it through the review process.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So you are saying you are going
         15    to be able to keep up with this, with NU's response rate
         16    with about a two week lag?
         17              MR. SCHOPFER:  Pretty close.  We have started
         18    turning it up, as you can see from the blue line, and this
         19    week it has gone up dramatically also.  So I expect we will,
         20    yes.
         21              We expect to resolve the majority, the great
         22    majority of the DRs by about the first week, or early in the
         23    second week of March, that's our current plan based on NU's
         24    comment to complete the response by the end of February.
         25              A summary of the closed or confirmed Discrepancy
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          1    Reports is provided next.  Of the 211 DRs that have been
          2    accepted and closed, there have been 111 confirmed DR
          3    discrepancies.  Forty-two were previously identified by NU
          4    and 58 were considered non-discrepant after their response
          5    and Sargent & Lundy's review of that response.
          6              Of the 111 confirmed discrepancies, five have
          7    categorized as level 3 and 106 as level 4.  There are also
          8    four pending discrepancies and I should note that pending is
          9    that we have accepted their Corrective Action Plan, they
         10    agree that it is a discrepancy.  We have accepted their
         11    plan, but there is some engineering document that we want to
         12    see before we call it closed, an evaluation, a calculation,
         13    some action that they needed to take that we want to see
         14    that result before we close it again because the
         15    significance level may be affected by the results of that. 
         16    But their Corrective Action Plan on resolving it was
         17    satisfactory.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Can you talk about the most
         19    significant of the level 3, the five level 3 confirmed
         20    discrepancies?
         21              MR. SCHOPFER:  I'll talk about all eight, because
         22    there three pending --
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         24              MR. SCHOPFER:  -- and I have some information
         25    about that, or at least seven of the eight.  They are in
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          1    various areas, and you can see on the next slide, actually,
          2    how they are broken down.  But those, we had one under
          3    Design Control, one level 3 under Design Change Process,
          4    that was basically a use of unverified information and
          5    procedures, and NU accepted that and has made a procedure
          6    change to make sure that they don't have the ability to use
          7    unverified information in procedures.  That was a level 3
          8    from a procedural Design Control standpoint.
          9              There were three or four calculations; four shown
         10    here. One was an embedment plate that was overstressed
         11    because the loads were -- certain loads were not considered. 
         12    There was a calculation for ventilation in the pump house
         13    for the service water pumps that did not consider two-pump
         14    operation.  That one is actually in the pending category and
         15    they're doing that calculation to see that it would or would
         16    not have been more significant.
         17              There was a calculation on auxiliary building
         18    ventilation system filter unit bypass leakage calculation
         19    that did not consider everything that it needed to consider.
         20              There was two in the corrective action areas that
         21    there we judged their corrective action not adequate,
         22    meaning that they're on different issues, but their
         23    corrective action process was not complete or not adequate. 
         24    One issue dealt with control of vendor information used in
         25    procedures, and the other was the environmental
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          1    qualification of terminal blocks.
          2              And the one that shows up as component data on the
          3    next slide was an auxiliary building ventilation fan
          4    basically not meeting its design and licensing equipment
          5    requirements for vibration design.
          6              Those are at least I believe seven of the eight
          7    that we've identified as Level 3s.
          8              The slide that shows the again confirmed and
          9    pending DRs that should add up to the 215 are distributed
         10    across various configuration control processes and products
         11    as we've identified here and categorized them at the
         12    beginning of the job.
         13              The notable trends here are that the number of
         14    discrepancies in calculations, there have been minor drawing
         15    errors, and I'm looking more at the -- we've talked about
         16    the Level 3s.  I'm talking more to the numbers of Level 4
         17    discrepancy reports on calculation issues, drawing errors --
         18    minor drawing errors -- differences between the design and
         19    as-built configuration, which is categorized or called
         20    installation implementation.  Licensing documents would be
         21    FSAR inconsistencies, handling of corrective actions, and
         22    components not in compliance with their design specification
         23    or their licensing commitment.  That's the type of what
         24    these have shown for the confirmed DR so far.
         25              And the last slide I have is the preliminary
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          1    conclusions slide that you mentioned earlier.  Based on --
          2    and I've termed this preliminary conclusions because we in
          3    fact have looked at about a third of the -- or a little
          4    less, perhaps -- of the responses, and conclusions really
          5    won't be drawn until we've completed that DR resolution
          6    process, but that based on the numbers of findings that have
          7    remained Level 3 are determined to be significant to Level
          8    3, we have a preliminary conclusion that the effectiveness
          9    of their CMP was relatively good in determining design and
         10    license basis deficiencies because of the minimum number of
         11    those things that we have found based on the total number of
         12    things that we've in fact looked at.
         13              The conclusions about configuration management
         14    going forward, we have reviewed their design control manual
         15    and we think it will be able to provide configuration
         16    control in the future.  There are some aspects of their
         17    modification process that we have discussed with NU and the
         18    NRC that could be improved, but they have not resulted in
         19    issues that were unacceptable, that are improvements or
         20    enhancements to their process.
         21              Programmatic issues that have jumped out at us are
         22    calculation control, and we've discussed these issues again
         23    with both the NRC and NU.  They have a -- and they have
         24    programs in place to deal with that, but we found it very
         25    difficult to deal with the calculations, what is the
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          1    calculation of record for a particular system and aspect of
          2    a system, what -- which calculations used as input to others
          3    and superseding of calculations that may have been used as
          4    input.  So there are a number of issues like that related to
          5    calculation control.
          6              And we also found some issues in general with
          7    radiological calculations that were not of the same quality
          8    and control of the calculations as the other calculations
          9    done recently on site.  The radiological calculations are a
         10    little bit more difficult to deal with.  They have not shown
         11    as good of conformance to the licensing basis.  So those are
         12    two of the issues that again we have discussed with NU and
         13    the NRC.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you.
         15              MR. CURRY:  Good morning, Chairman Jackson.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good morning.
         17              MR. CURRY:  My name's Stan Curry, and I'm the
         18    project director for the Unit 2 ICAVP, and with me today is
         19    Eric Blocher, my deputy.  I'm very pleased for this
         20    opportunity to talk about Unit 2.
         21              As you see from the agenda, we'll get -- on the
         22    third bullet there we'll get down to discrepancy reports,
         23    and I'd like to cover those issues that have been previously
         24    mentioned at that point.
         25              Our Tier 1 review is continuing as similar with
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          1    Sargent Lundy, we have four major systems have been selected
          2    which also encompass significant numbers of additional
          3    systems which are touched as interfaces or as major
          4    components that have been added to define a single system.
          5              Our high-pressure safety ejection, today we have
          6    finished our discovery in following on with the definition
          7    given previously.  That means that we've finished our
          8    discovery.  We're finalizing the discrepancy reports to
          9    submit on that particular system.  And then the corrective
         10    action review is indeed ongoing in that particular area.
         11              The auxiliary feed water system is on hold as
         12    we've indicated there, and we expect based upon NU's
         13    information to start receiving some information to allow us
         14    to restart our efforts in that particular area in the
         15    mid-March time frame.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now there were changes made to
         17    that system.  Is that the --
         18              MR. CURRY:  There were additional calculations
         19    that needed to be redone.  In order to establish the design
         20    and licensing basis and to make it efficient for our reviews
         21    it did not seem prudent to proceed until those were
         22    complete.
         23              On the two other Tier 1 systems we are proceeding
         24    in the design and licensing basis.  As indicated there our
         25    work is in progress and we're going through the normal
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          1    process of a Tier 1 inspection on those two systems.
          2              Our Tier 2, which again is the accident analysis
          3    review, we've gotten our critical design characteristics
          4    approved.  The 29 events are in review.  As you notice, the
          5    major bullet there that we will reevaluate the ten events
          6    that Northeast Utilities is currently working on to
          7    reanalyze.  We have a process that will allow us to work
          8    around those for a period of time.  Those other analyses are
          9    not affected by the reanalysis work.
         10              And then we have a process which allows us to take
         11    placeholders but will require us to come back and validate
         12    once they have completed their calculations on Tier 2.
         13              Our Tier 3 proceeds.  There is the one outstanding
         14    area of vendor manuals as far as the selection of the sample
         15    that we will be reviewing.  The other is progressing well
         16    and we're 75 percent complete with that tier.
         17              Discrepancy reports.  Just to review what's
         18    currently on the slide before I proceed for some other
         19    comments.  As you see, similar in definition, 57 discrepancy
         20    reports are closed, are confirmed pending, and of the 39
         21    that have been confirmed as discrepancies, and again those
         22    are in a manner that we have agreed with the licensee on the
         23    particular issue and the action that will be taken.  Closed
         24    indicates that we have seen their final piece of paper that
         25    would allow us to agree, and if they've not yet implemented
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          1    it, we would close it, and it would move to the corrective
          2    action portion of our review.
          3              To follow up on the earlier questions that have to
          4    do with the elevated discrepancy reports.  Mr. Bowling has
          5    already made a remark about the actual number that we
          6    received, and I'd like to discuss a little bit the process
          7    we've developed to utilize on what we call elevated DRs,
          8    anything that are in Category 3, 2, or 1 in particular, with
          9    specific emphasis on 1s and 2s.
         10              And as you can imagine, most of these are not just
         11    open a book and find the issue.  These were fairly complex
         12    issues.  And because of that we and the licensee and the
         13    staff and the State of Connecticut have developed a process
         14    by which we sit down and discuss any one of these to make
         15    sure that everyone understands what those issues are.
         16              This process was not in place before we issued the
         17    initial elevated DRs.  We are now using those.  And to
         18    the -- I think to the credit of the licensee they're
         19    bringing significant amounts of staff to those meetings to
         20    make sure that they understand those issues before they
         21    begin to respond.
         22              Again, these issues in many cases are driven out
         23    of the accident analysis reviews rather than simply the
         24    systems that they have across the plant implication, so it's
         25    not just a single system issue.  And I have seen from them a
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          1    very sincere desire to understand and make sure that we
          2    fully appreciate what their response will be and why we can
          3    accept that response.
          4              In many cases again as we've discussed in the past
          5    there are -- this is an older plant, and sometimes you reach
          6    the point where the data provided does point you to an
          7    elevated definition or would be met, and then further
          8    research may turn up additional information which may allow
          9    all parties to agree that indeed the situation is
         10    nondiscrepant.  And clearly that's some of the things that
         11    we're seeing coming out of those.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you have the comparable
         13    default position in terms of --
         14              MR. CURRY:  We do, but I should tell you, I mean,
         15    we certainly do, and I think Mr. Schopfer adequately
         16    discussed that.  When it's indeterminate, we indeed send it
         17    back to them and indicate at this point without us redoing
         18    calculations and that's not part of our scope.  It is
         19    indeterminate what's the exact level, but we believe it is
         20    as a minimum of three.
         21              Now again sometimes the information provided does
         22    meet the criteria to identify it at that time as a potential
         23    Level 1 or Level 2.  As I've mentioned, sometimes that
         24    potential goes away when more information is provided.  But
         25    you deal with the information that you have at the time when
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          1    the licensee provides all information that he thinks he has
          2    to address that issue.  As we've seen in the past, there was
          3    one particular item that we were unaware and did not receive
          4    an LER from the licensee.  Upon receipt of that LER, that
          5    starts helping us understand where they are on that
          6    particular -- resolution on that particular item.
          7              These meetings have resulted on the elevated DRs
          8    and they have taken the opportunity to go back and, on three
          9    of those particular items, do a further evaluation and they
         10    will be shortly getting back to us as far as what they have
         11    seen to evaluate the potential, whether or not there is a
         12    problem or not.
         13              Again, I would like to emphasize that they have
         14    shown significant commitment to me as far as making sure
         15    they were bringing the right people to the table.  There has
         16    been no lack of their dedication in that area.
         17              Were there other questions about DRs that -- our
         18    schedule, as we show here, we have coordinated these dates
         19    with the staff to make sure that, as we currently have
         20    indicated here, that they will support the staff's
         21    inspection of our work on both Tier 2 and Tier 3 as well as
         22    in Tier 1 and the corrective action review.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So given the date you have for
         24    the HPSE, does the high-pressure safety injection system
         25    meets its design and licensing basis?
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          1              MR. CURRY:  At this point, our discovery is
          2    complete.  We obviously have several outstanding DRs related
          3    to that system, and you have to wait until you get those
          4    answers.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So you're waiting for
          6    what?
          7              MR. CURRY:  We have several outstanding
          8    discrepancy reports on HPSE and also on the corrective
          9    actions to be performed on HPSE, and there's a significant
         10    number of corrective actions the licensee has identified
         11    that they will be performing.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So this feedback process
         13    and the re-review has not been done.
         14              MR. CURRY:  That's correct, yes, not yet been
         15    done.
         16              Our current target, based upon our current
         17    knowledge of what we're doing and certainly the Northeast
         18    Utility's current schedule, providing us the information
         19    that I discussed earlier, some of the design basis
         20    calculations and the accident analysis, based upon those
         21    schedules and a process, a normal proceeding of resolutions
         22    for discrepancy reports and corrective actions, we look to
         23    have a July the 10th date for our final report.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         25              Any questions?  Yes?
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          1              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  The Level 1's that you
          2    tentatively identified, five Level 1's, what is the nature
          3    of some of them?  Apparently NU has responded on three of
          4    them, and you're presumably looking at their response, but
          5    what is the nature of some of these Level 1's?
          6              MR. CURRY:  Eric, would you like to characterize
          7    those for me?
          8              MR. BLOCHER:  Right.  The elevated DRs that exist
          9    to date, one of the Level 1's deals with water intrusion
         10    into the diesel fuel storage tank that would render both
         11    trains inoperable.  There is another Level 1 DR that deals
         12    with the RC flow, RPS trip set point being in a
         13    non-conservative direction and certainly would violate or
         14    potentially violate a fuel integrity limit.
         15              There is an issue dealing with enclosure building
         16    integrity, both from a pressurization and overall leakage
         17    point of view.
         18              The fourth one deals with steam generator narrow
         19    range level trips point dealing with potential cause of
         20    drawing inconsistency resulting in an over-leak,
         21    under-conservative trip set point.
         22              Then there is the fifth Level 1 DR deals with the
         23    containment sump valves, potential vulnerability to pressure
         24    binding and pressure locking, therefore rendering them
         25    inoperable.
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          1              Our one Level 2 DR deals with accumulator tank, an
          2    air supply that provides backup air to safety injection
          3    discharge valves, and the mounting of that accumulator tank
          4    is in question.
          5              MR. CURRY:  I again would say that, again, those
          6    are potential DRs at this point.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Anything else?
          8              Thank you very much.
          9              We'll now hear from Little Harbor Consultants.
         10              Let me see if my Commissioners would like a break. 
         11    No?  Keep going?
         12              [Pause.]
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good morning.
         14              MR. BECK:  Good afternoon.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  It is afternoon.  It was
         16    morning when we started.
         17              MR. BECK:  I'm John Beck, president of Little
         18    Harbor and team leader of the independent third-party
         19    oversight program at Millstone, and I have with me this
         20    morning -- this afternoon John Griffin, who is a deputy team
         21    leader, and Billie Garde, a member of our oversight team.
         22              Our presentation today will be very similar to
         23    that we gave in December.  Since then, we have presented an
         24    interim report to Northeast Utilities and the NRC staff in a
         25    public meeting on January 27 at Millstone.  Today's
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          1    evaluation of NU's success criteria was conducted earlier
          2    this week and is thus very current and represents the
          3    consensus opinion of the LHC team.
          4              Before we report on the NU success criteria, I
          5    would like to briefly discuss the evaluation system we use
          6    to measure each of our safety-conscious work environment
          7    attributes.  While our evaluation system which we discussed
          8    in December remains the same, we have modified this
          9    particular slide to more clearly define our criteria. 
         10    Specifically, we have indicated that a green evaluation
         11    means world-class performance.  Previously this was labelled
         12    "meets expectations" and left unsaid that the expectations
         13    referred to were meant to represent ideal performance or
         14    world-class performance.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  This is not a re-normalization
         16              MR. BECK:  It is not a re-normalization.
         17              We have also added a line to show, as we discussed
         18    in December, what level of performance we consider to be
         19    acceptable for restart.  These changes, as well as the
         20    addition of positive and negative factors which I will get
         21    to in a moment, were made based on feedback we received from
         22    members of the public following the December meeting.
         23              Our oversight plan defines twelve attributes of
         24    the safety-conscious work environment, and we have mapped
         25    these twelve attributes into the four success criteria
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          1    utilized by Northeast Utilities to measure the
          2    safety-conscious work environment.  We evaluate each of our
          3    twelve attributes, discuss the facts gathered and observed
          4    in our work, and then strive to reach a team consensus on
          5    the evaluation for each of those attributes.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And do each of those attributes
          7    all have to be above the line individually in order for you
          8    to make an acceptable determination?
          9              MR. BECK:  For all practical purposes, I would say
         10    yes, although there could be an exception.  I don't believe
         11    there is at this time, and certainly we would point it out
         12    and justify why, if it didn't quite meet the line, that
         13    would be the case.  But I don't believe it is as we stand
         14    here today.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So I want you to, again, to
         16    state for the record, when you said earlier it meets
         17    expectations, you were saying implicit in that was meets
         18    world-class expectations, so it's not a re-normalization?
         19              MR. BECK:  For the green rating, that's correct,
         20    it is not a re-normalization.
         21              Within roll-up, our twelve attributes into the
         22    four NU --
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Excuse me.
         24              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  On this slide in question,
         25    what would yellow declining mean?  Put the slide back up a
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          1    minute.  You've got these different categories and you show
          2    whether it's improving or declining, but what if you had a
          3    yellow declining?  Is that the same thing as yellow
          4    negative?
          5              MR. BECK:  No.  If it were a middle yellow or a
          6    neutral yellow declining, that would not meet our acceptance
          7    criteria for restart of the unit.
          8              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Okay.
          9              MR. BECK:  It has to be at least neutral yellow
         10    holding steady.  If it were declining, that would not meet
         11    our criteria.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So minus means it's declining
         13    and plus means it's improving?
         14              MR. BECK:  No.  The arrow indicates improving,
         15    steady, or declining.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Did you get the answer to your
         17    question?  Okay.
         18              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Close enough.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         20              MR. BECK:  We're trying to keep a very close
         21    finger on the pulse.
         22              We then roll the --
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me back you up --
         24              MR. BECK:  Sure.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  -- since you're showing
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          1    performance indicators.
          2              MR. BECK:  Yes.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What does plus mean relative to
          4    the arrows at the bottom of the page?  What do plus and
          5    minus mean?
          6              MR. BECK:  Plus -- the absence of a plus or minus
          7    or the middle yellow and the minus yellow are three
          8    gradations in that yellow range, plus, neutral or minus. 
          9    The arrows indicate a trend --
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  I see.  Okay.
         11              MR. BECK:  -- at that gradation level.
         12              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  Where is yellow minus
         13    improving?  Yellow minus with an up arrow, is that above or
         14    below the line?
         15              MR. BECK:  Below.
         16              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  It's below.  Okay.
         17              MR. BECK:  You could look at it, although we try
         18    to stay away from it, as A, B, C, D and F.
         19              As stated earlier, the information we're about to
         20    present was developed by Little Harbor in meetings held
         21    earlier this week and represents our consensus.
         22              The first of the success criteria is to
         23    demonstrate a willingness to raise concerns.  We have
         24    evaluated this criterion as neutral, yellow and improving,
         25    or an up arrow.  We consider this criterion to be acceptable
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          1    for restart and it represents an improvement from our last
          2    evaluation.
          3              This slide shows the five Little Harbor attributes
          4    which will appear as Slide 29 in your handout package, which
          5    roll up into the first of these NU success criteria.  And
          6    you can see by examining those five attributes, each of them
          7    would meet the acceptance criteria at this point, if you
          8    looked at them on an individual basis.
          9              This next slide lists the factors that we
         10    considered in our evaluation.  For example, the event that
         11    occurred in January in Unit 3, mechanical maintenance, the
         12    second bullet in the left hand column, made both the
         13    positive and the negative lists.  It was negative because of
         14    the perceptions about the event.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Why don't you give us a quick
         16    summary?
         17              MR. BECK:  Sure.  In this particular case, a
         18    change in a manager's assignment was being made, and it was
         19    reacted to very vigorously by the people who were
         20    responsible to this individual, and by others in the
         21    maintenance department, as they felt that it was an
         22    inappropriate thing to be done.  They had a lot of trust in
         23    this individual and they, frankly, did not want to see him
         24    reassigned to other duties.
         25              The action was taken on New Year's Eve day and it
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          1    was quite a strong reaction on the part of the individuals
          2    affected by it, and the potential existed for a chilling
          3    effect.  But -- and those certainly were negative aspects of
          4    it.
          5              On the positive side of the equation was the fact
          6    that the employees involved and affected by it were willing
          7    to stand up and question the decision by management which
          8    they believed was wrong for the company.  Management's
          9    reaction to that challenge was relatively swift, and by the
         10    end of the first week in January, the decision to reassign
         11    this individual was reversed.  A new understanding was
         12    reached about the standards expected by people in the
         13    maintenance department by all, management and the employees,
         14    and it had, frankly, a very rapid and happy ending.
         15              Moving on to the second criterion, and this is to
         16    demonstrate that issues are being effectively resolved by
         17    line management.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Excuse me, what is the ERB
         19    review process?
         20              MR. BECK:  Executive Review Board is a board the
         21    company has set up to review any potentially adverse
         22    personnel action being taken at the Millstone site, whether
         23    it be an employee or a contractor.  It is at a high level
         24    and it considers all aspects of potential adverse employee
         25    or contractor personnel actions and is intended as a final,
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          1    high level review, and they have been catching a number of
          2    circumstances that might have not been properly handled.
          3              It has also been, not only is a catch for these
          4    things, but it has had, I think, an effective --
          5    effectiveness in precluding things that might have happened
          6    in another day.  It is serving its purpose.
          7              The second criterion is to demonstrate that issues
          8    are being effectively resolved by line management, and this
          9    corresponds to the Corrective Action Program at Millstone. 
         10    We have evaluated this criterion as neutral, yellow and
         11    improving.  This evaluation shows an improvement since our
         12    December meeting, and we find the criterion to be acceptable
         13    for restart, as we did in December, and it corresponds to
         14    our Attribute No. 10.
         15              We will begin next week a detailed review of the
         16    effectiveness of the Corrective Action Program.  Our review
         17    so far has been more of a programmatic nature.  Do they have
         18    all the essential elements that you would expect to see in a
         19    Corrective Action Program?
         20              Criterion 3 is to demonstrate that the Employee
         21    Concerns Program is effective.  Our evaluation of this
         22    criterion has also improved from December.  You may recall
         23    in December we evaluated this criterion to be unacceptable
         24    for restart, based on seemingly high levels of
         25    dissatisfaction by users of the Employee Concerns Program.
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          1              Since that time we have interviewed over 30
          2    employees who have recently used the program and determined
          3    that 83 percent of those interviewed would use the ECP again
          4    should the need arise.  These results compare favorably with
          5    evaluations conducted independently by Northeast.
          6              Our current evaluation is neutral, yellow and
          7    improving, which we find to be acceptable for restart.  We
          8    will be conducting additional reviews of recent Employee
          9    Concerns Program activity over the next few weeks to
         10    determine the effectiveness of Corrective Actions which are
         11    intended to address and resolve the negative factors on this
         12    slide.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you -- if you interview
         14    employees who have used the Employee Concerns Program, and
         15    you have asked them if they would use it again, do you ask
         16    them if -- is that the question they are asked, or are they
         17    asked if they felt the issue they raised was satisfactorily
         18    resolved?
         19              MR. BECK:  The specific question that we developed
         20    for this contained about 10 or 11 questions, if I recall. 
         21    We asked them to characterize the concern and then walked
         22    them through the entire process from the day they walked in
         23    to the Employee Concerns.  How were you treated?  Did the
         24    intake person understand your concern?  All the way down to,
         25    Where you satisfied with the resolution?  How were you
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          1    treated during the process?  Et cetera.  So we got a pretty
          2    comprehensive review.
          3              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  You said this was done by
          4    survey?
          5              MR. BECK:  No, this was done by individual
          6    contact.
          7              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Individual.
          8              MR. BECK:  We contacted in excess of 30 people
          9    that had recently used the program.
         10              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Okay.
         11              MR. BECK:  And talked to them directly.
         12              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  So it is 83 percent of?
         13              MR. BECK:  I don't -- we were struggling this
         14    morning to remember the exact number.  It was over 30, I
         15    just don't recall the exact number.
         16              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Out of how many potential
         17    people did you have to interview?
         18              MS. GARDE:  When we first did the survey -- I do
         19    not mean survey instrument.  When we first called people,
         20    that covered over a hundred files, which were the older
         21    files that we had looked at, files that were open when we
         22    first arrived, and then began to be developed.  This group
         23    would come out of about 60.
         24              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Okay.  But -- all right. 
         25    Because you are showing a change in the trend, and I am
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          1    trying to figure out where that came from.
          2              MS. GARDE:  It is from a different group of
          3    people, so that the last group that we called were from
          4    people who had open concerns within, I think since --
          5              MR. BECK:  Six months.
          6              MS. GARDE:  Yeah, within the last six months.
          7              COMMISSIONER DICUS:  Okay.
          8              MS. GARDE:  May.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Did you go back at all to the
         10    earlier group?
         11              MS. GARDE:  In the second batch.  If their case
         12    was closed during the new time period, yes, they would have
         13    been within that second group.
         14              MR. BECK:  The final NU success criterion is the
         15    ability of management to recognize and effectively deal with
         16    alleged instances of harassment, intimidation, retaliation
         17    or discrimination, including potential chilling effect on
         18    the Millstone work force.
         19              In December we evaluated this criterion as a
         20    significant weakness, red, and unacceptable for restart. 
         21    Our current evaluation still classifies this criterion as a
         22    significant weakness and unacceptable for restart.
         23              Since December, we have seen some improvement in
         24    this area and have indicated this improvement by an up
         25    arrow.  We believe that this issue continues to be the most
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          1    significant challenge for Northeast relating to the safety
          2    conscious work environment.
          3              The next slide shows --
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Before you go to the next
          5    slide.
          6              MR. BECK:  Yes.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  What do you mean when you say
          8    inconsistent handling of HIR&D; allegations and 50.7
          9    analysis?
         10              MS. GARDE:  I completed a review of all of the
         11    files that raised a potential 10 CFR 50.7 issue up through
         12    the first week of December, and what I found within those
         13    files was somewhat varied approaches by the different
         14    investigators that were handling the cases in terms of what
         15    they -- how they individually approached a particular
         16    allegation of retaliation.  And that was one of our findings
         17    in our last presentation, and I believe the ECP is working
         18    on trying to bring some consistency so that any file and any
         19    investigator will work to the same criteria in reaching
         20    determinations in that area.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Does guidance exist for them?
         22              MS. GARDE:  There's not written guidance now, but
         23    I hope that there soon will be.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So there's no written guidance
         25    for the investigators?
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          1              MS. GARDE:  No.  There are very detailed
          2    procedures, but within those procedure, there is not a
          3    written guidance that sets out how retaliation is to be
          4    investigated.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And what about training for the
          6    investigators?
          7              MS. GARDE:  They are going to get training in that
          8    area.  They have already received quite a bit of training in
          9    other areas.  This training has to be further developed.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         11              MR. BECK:  The next slide shows the five Little
         12    Harbor attributes which roll up into the Northeast Utilities
         13    criterion.
         14              As I just mentioned, we have seen some improvement
         15    in the criterion.  If we could have the next slide?  And
         16    this one represents some of the positive factors and events. 
         17    The executive review board, which we discussed a few minutes
         18    ago, has been especially effective in preventing events from
         19    occurring, and in recent weeks, Northeast has made
         20    significant progress toward resolving several longstanding
         21    issues of concern with the Quality Control Department.
         22              On the next slide, however, you will see that
         23    there continue to be negative high profile events and
         24    untimely resolution of some incidents.  We have been
         25    following closely management's handling of the recent event
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          1    and oversight, noting both positives and negatives.  Our
          2    next report will contain conclusions about this ongoing
          3    matter.  Bottom-line composite of these factors result in
          4    our judgment that considerable effort is still required in
          5    this area.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Tell me about this management
          7    oversight relationship.  This is -- what are the problem
          8    areas?
          9              MR. BECK:  This springs from a relationship
         10    between maintenance and the quality control inspectors that
         11    dates back a couple of -- three months at this point, and
         12    it's an issue that frankly festered for some time until it
         13    received more management attention.  I think it is
         14    definitely on a trend of improvement at this juncture, but
         15    it does represent a significant area for improvement.
         16              Billie, you might want to add to that.
         17              MS. GARDE:  I think that there was a lack of
         18    understanding between the maintenance organization and the
         19    quality control-quality assurance department that led to
         20    some interdepartmental behaviors that we wouldn't expect to
         21    see at a site in a restart mode.  I think, frankly, the
         22    maintenance event that John referred to earlier probably
         23    brought some of those things to the forefront and is one of
         24    the areas that they have been addressing more recently and
         25    more aggressively.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you systematically go back
          2    and check or monitor the progress?  For instance, when you
          3    were talking about the HIR&D; and you indicated that there
          4    wasn't the kind of guidance that there needed to be, you go
          5    back to see if, in fact, that has happened or that it's
          6    scheduled to happened?  I mean, how --
          7              MR. BECK:  Yes.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  You do a systematic backtrack?
          9              MR. BECK:  Yes.  We have a -- we have developed a
         10    matrix of all recommendations that we've provided to date
         11    and we status each of those recommendations periodically.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Very good.
         13              MR. BECK:  John would like to respond to a
         14    question you raised earlier with Northeast, Chairman
         15    Jackson.
         16              MR. GRIFFIN:  As I understand, the question was
         17    whether Little Harbor periodically samples the data that
         18    leads into their performance indicators.  The short answer
         19    is yes, we do.  We either independently verify the data
         20    itself or we conduct independent data collection to verify
         21    or validate that information.  With probably two exceptions
         22    on the corrective action program, as John indicated, we had
         23    -- well, we had looked at that program in the fall, we have
         24    not looked at it over the last several months, so we haven't
         25    looked at the most recent data.  We will begin a
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          1    reevaluation on Monday and we will sample that data at that
          2    time.
          3              The other variance from our agreement with their
          4    performance indicators would be in the area pertaining to
          5    the fourth performance criteria of the HIR&D;, and as I think
          6    Mr. Amerine had indicated, there are ongoing discussions
          7    over the classification of concerns that fall into the HIR&D;
          8    area and into those that fall to the potential 50.7
          9    violations.  We're still discussing those.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Why don't you go on.
         11              MR. BECK:  That's it.  That concludes our
         12    presentation this morning.  We did not intend to go through
         13    each of the LHC attributes.  If there are no further
         14    questions --
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Actually, I do have a few.  Let
         16    me look at the safety-conscious work environment attribute
         17    status.  Now, the licensee actually performs six-month
         18    surveys.  Do your independent surveys indicate similar
         19    things, and how extensive are your surveys?
         20              MR. BECK:  If you recall, we did an extensive
         21    structured interview session last June and July.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.
         23              MR. BECK:  We are going to finish tomorrow
         24    interviewing 298, I believe, individuals at the site who
         25    have been selected to be representative of the site
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          1    population and asking them the same questions that were
          2    asked last summer, so we'll have another data point
          3    available.  Those results will be compiled next week and our
          4    presentation prepared, and it will be given March 3rd at the
          5    Millstone site in a public meeting to NU management and the
          6    NRC staff.  The results will speak for themselves.  I
          7    haven't done the evaluation yet, so I have no predictions to
          8    make.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me look at attribute 3 --
         10              MR. BECK:  Sure.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  -- having to do with senior
         12    management providing training to all managers and
         13    supervisors, et cetera.
         14              Has Little Harbor commented on the adequacy of
         15    this training?
         16              MS. GARDE:  Yes, Chairman.  First, we commented on
         17    the inadequacy of the training that they had in place when
         18    we first arrived and they made a number of changes within
         19    their ongoing training programs, additional pieces that they
         20    put into their programs.
         21              They also added -- actually specifically developed
         22    and presented in the late fall -- training to all their
         23    supervisors and managers on 10CFR 50.7, what that means, how
         24    to comply with it, how it's implemented.  That training
         25    covered three different training programs, so there were
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          1    actually three different sessions that people attended. 
          2    They have also had a number of sessions off site with all
          3    their mid-level managers that included training in that
          4    area.  So we have watched it, we have observed it, and it
          5    has been continual since I would say early fall.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now, if I look at attribute 4,
          7    and that's the slide you have where you talk about negative
          8    factors, you seem to be primarily event driven.  Do you have
          9    other ways that you arrive at the conclusions that you
         10    reach?
         11              MR. BECK:  Yes.  Structured interview specifically
         12    probes that area, and there will be results available March
         13    3rd on that subject that will add to our specific
         14    event-driven observations.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And that -- but in arriving at
         16    this yellow steady, at the moment, that is event based?
         17              MR. BECK:  That's correct.  That's right.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So it could go up if the
         19    survey is different?
         20              MR. BECK:  That will certainly have an impact in
         21    this area.
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  You mentioned and we had
         23    talked earlier about the maintenance and oversight
         24    relationship.
         25              MR. BECK:  Yes.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Does any other group have
          2    interface problems with oversight?  Have you looked at that
          3              MR. BECK:  We certainly looked at it, and right
          4    now, I can't -- I don't recall any -- remember any issues
          5    that would rise to the level of the oversight QC maintenance
          6    issue, no.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Have you looked at it in a
          8    systematic way?
          9              MS. GARDE:  We haven't looked at it in a
         10    systematic way other than when we're looking at the problem
         11    areas, the identified problem areas, which looks at why you
         12    have a problem area.  Other than that, it should come out in
         13    the context of the structured interviews because there's
         14    questions specifically designed to look at that.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Looking at Attribute 5, you
         16    talk about the lack of trust.  I mean, in your view, how can
         17    this best be regained, and is there an aspect, in fact, to
         18    the "isolate the cynics" memo that is undergoing review,
         19    that, in fact, pointed to trying to regain a team
         20    atmosphere?
         21              MR. BECK:  There will be input from the structured
         22    interviews on this whole question of lack of trust.  And,
         23    certainly, there are aspects of the oversight event that
         24    will impact it.
         25              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But I am saying, are there
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          1    aspects -- are you going to be looking at what may be
          2    positive as well as negative aspects of that event?
          3              MR. BECK:  Yes, we are.  Yes, we are.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Let me look at Attribute
          5    6.  In your view, is this an area then where the licensee
          6    has made a significant amount of progress?
          7              MR. BECK:  Yes.  Absolutely.  Without question.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Attribute 7, this
          9    positive recognition, the catch of the day.  Is this a
         10    formal recognition process?
         11              MR. BECK:  Yes, it is.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  All right.  Attribute 8,
         13    looking at incidents leading to allegations of HIR&D; rarely
         14    occur and management is timely ineffective in taking action.
         15              What do you look at most strongly?  Is it -- are
         16    you looking at number of allegations or the effectiveness of
         17    the Corrective Action primarily?  I mean where do you put
         18    the weight?
         19              MR. BECK:  The simple answer is both.  It is
         20    quality of the issue, or the seriousness of the issue that
         21    may or may not have occurred.  The frequency, is it
         22    declining as the work force and management become more
         23    sensitive to these very important relationships.  And as far
         24    as management's timely addressing of the issues, that is
         25    certainly a matter of importance to us.
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          1              Billie, do you want to?
          2              MS. GARDE:  I think -- I agree with what John
          3    said, and I also would like to say something we said the
          4    first time that we came here, and that is that it is
          5    unrealistic to expect that there will never be an incident. 
          6    This is a human work force, it's a dynamic work force.  You
          7    could have a supervisor start today that didn't attend any
          8    of the training, and one of the things we want to make sure
          9    is that that training is captured for new supervisors.
         10              So, although we certainly would not expect to see
         11    increasing incidents, there should be levels to catch it,
         12    both below and above, and we are seeing that catch system
         13    develop.  They may happen.  Incidents like this can occur. 
         14    And that is where you have to weigh and balance.  And,
         15    actually, an incident could occur that could have a timely,
         16    effective, immediate response and would only show up on our
         17    plus side because of that reason.  So it really is a balance
         18    between numbers and why it occurred and how it is handled.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And my last question for you is
         20    on Attribute 8, where you talk about a negative factor being
         21    manpower.  What does this mean?
         22              MS. GARDE:  There was an incident involving some
         23    contract employees who -- employment was terminated.  The
         24    issues that they raised a concern about were not 10 CFR 50.7
         25    issues, that is, they didn't deal with nuclear safety, but
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          1    they did deal with personnel safety issues.  They were let
          2    go.  The issue went to -- came to the attention of the
          3    Executive Review Board, which originally approved the
          4    terminations, mainly because they believed they were going
          5    to go right back to work in another position.  They were not
          6    for-cause terminations.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So what you really mean
          8    is Human Resources or personnel policy?
          9              MS. GARDE:  It was a personnel -- no, not Human
         10    Resources.  Personnel safety.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Personnel safety.
         12              MS. GARDE:  That is the issues that they raised. 
         13    In any event, they were immediately put back on the payroll,
         14    but it took over six weeks to really come to closure on the
         15    issue in a satisfactory way.  So, although the people didn't
         16    lose salary, the condition festered for too long, and it
         17    should have been resolved more promptly.  And that grew and
         18    it caused it a bigger problem than it needed to be.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Any other comments or
         20    questions?
         21              [No response.]
         22              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Thank you very much.
         23              MR. BECK:  Thank you.
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Last but not least.  I think we
         25    will take a five-minute break.
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          1              [Recess.]
          2              MR. CALLAN:  Chairman, we will be on our scheduled
          3    start time, but as you have repeatedly admonished the Staff
          4    that when it comes to Millstone, we should be immune to
          5    schedule or pressure, so in that spirit, we will --
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  That just shows if you tell
          7    people things, they will use it against you.
          8              MR. CALLAN:  That's right.
          9              [Laughter.]
         10              MR. CALLAN:  With me at the table I have the
         11    Director of the Office of Special Projects, Bill Travers,
         12    and he has with him also his three deputies; Wayne Lanning,
         13    who is the Deputy Director for Inspections; Gene Imbro, who
         14    is the Deputy Director for ICAVP Oversight; and Phil McKee,
         15    who is the Deputy Director for Licensing and Employee
         16    Concerns Program Oversight.
         17              And with that, Bill Travers will be our principal
         18    presenter.  Bill.
         19              MR. TRAVERS:  Good afternoon.
         20              Could I have the first slide, please?  I am just
         21    going to jump in.
         22              The staff is continuing to carry out its oversight
         23    responsibilities at Millstone using the guidance listed in
         24    Manual Chapter 0350, and, as you know, we used this guidance
         25    to develop a Millstone Review Plan that we submitted to the
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          1    Commission in 9703 and it was within just a few months of my
          2    becoming Director of the special organization.
          3              We have for each Millstone Unit developed a
          4    Restart Assessment Plan which documents the issues that the
          5    staff has identified required resolution prior to coming
          6    before the Commission with any restart recommendation for
          7    any of the units.
          8              This slide sort of lays out the structure of those
          9    Restart Assessment Plans.  Importantly, some of the key
         10    orders that have been issued to date in ICAVP and Employee
         11    Concerns Program, Safety Conscious Work Environment, are
         12    encompassed within this Restart Assessment Plan for the each
         13    of the three units.  The Restart Assessment Plan also
         14    identified the specific NRC inspection reports that are
         15    being used to document closure in specific issues, so it is
         16    really a good template for assessing the progress that we
         17    have been making in our reviews to date.
         18              As I have done in previous meetings, I will
         19    emphasize a continuing commitment that I think we are
         20    meeting, and that is a commitment to make this process as
         21    open as we possibly can.  We have coordination with the
         22    public in the context of evening meetings that we hold every
         23    four to six weeks.  We have been holding most of the
         24    technical meetings and exchanges that we have in the
         25    licensee and the contractors in the area of Millstone, and
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          1    we have been keeping organizations like the state chartered
          2    Nuclear Energy Advisory Council apprised of the status of
          3    our activities.
          4              In fact, as it regards to NEAC, we have a
          5    Memorandum of Understanding with them, they are actually
          6    participants as observers in many of our ICAVP activities,
          7    and we have recently expanded that MOU to include our 40500
          8    Corrective Active Inspection and the Operational Safety Team
          9    Inspection as well, if they choose to participate as
         10    observers.
         11              Before turning to a more detailed discussion of
         12    status, I would like to make just a few comments about our
         13    overall assessment of the licensee's recovery program and
         14    their progress.  As I indicated in December, the staff's
         15    overall assessment is that NU is continuing to make progress
         16    in its broad scope effort to fix problems at Millstone.  The
         17    NRC staff has been observing and documenting in NRC
         18    inspection reports, licensee progress in essentially all of
         19    the elements of our Restart Assessment Plans for Units 3 and
         20    2.
         21              Although we have closed and documented specific
         22    items identified in those Restart Assessment Plans, we have
         23    not yet completed our evaluation of any of the key
         24    programmatic issues that are the foundation of some of the
         25    key problems at Millstone.  And before we can complete our
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          1    action in areas such as Corrective Action Program, licensing
          2    design basis conformance, Employee Concerns, quality
          3    assurance oversight, the licensee must determine for itself
          4    that their Corrective Actions are complete and effective. 
          5    As such, our program is one that is necessarily back-ended
          6    and several important inspections, some of which have been
          7    postponed by the licensee, must be completed before we can
          8    finish our review in these programmatic areas.
          9              Currently, at Unit 3, of a total of eight team
         10    inspections, five are complete, one is in process, and two
         11    are planned.  In a few minutes, I will present a detailed
         12    listing and schedule of the remaining NRC staff inspections
         13    related to Unit 3.
         14              Fundamentally, of course, our program is focused
         15    on a thorough evaluation of the issues, and on no particular
         16    schedule.  We recognize that it is the issues and their
         17    resolution that drive our examination and closure.
         18              Can I have the next slide, please?
         19              An important element of our Restart Assessment
         20    Plan is the evaluation of improvements to the Employee
         21    Concerns Program and Safety Conscious Work Environment, and
         22    the Commission has heard a number of pieces of information
         23    relative to the status of Little Harbor's review and the
         24    licensee's own appraisal of its status.
         25              The staff's plan for assessing these improvements
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          1    in these areas was provided as an attachment to our December
          2    Commission paper, and that plan presents the staff's
          3    methodology for determining if the licensee has made
          4    sufficient improvements in their Employee Concerns Program
          5    and Safety Conscious Work Environment to support a restart
          6    at Millstone.
          7              The plan purposely makes a distinction between
          8    Employee Concerns Program and Safety Conscious Work
          9    Environment.  The Employee Concerns Program refers
         10    specifically to the licensee's organization and programs
         11    that address concerns raised by employees outside the normal
         12    line organization.  Safety Conscious Work Environment is a
         13    broader term and that refers to a work environment in which
         14    employees are encouraged to raise concerns and where
         15    concerns are promptly reviewed and resolved, with timely
         16    feedback to the originator.
         17              The October 24th, 1996 Order issued by the
         18    Director of NRR required Northeast to develop and submit to
         19    the staff a comprehensive plan for reviewing and
         20    dispositioning safety issues raised by its employees.  That
         21    Order also required Northeast to propose for NRC approval an
         22    independent third-party oversight program organization to
         23    oversee implementation of Northeast's plan to assess
         24    licensee performance.
         25              The Order further required that the third-party
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          1    organization, once selected, develop and submit for NRC
          2    review and approval, an oversight plan.  Currently, all of
          3    these elements of that Order have been completed.
          4              Consistent with the Order, Little Harbor, as you
          5    know, is charged with important oversight responsibilities,
          6    and the staff, as part of its overall conclusions regarding
          7    the adequacy of ECP and SCWE, expects to utilize input for
          8    LHC as a significant element in our decision making.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Do you have your own criteria
         10    against which you assess LHC's evaluations, as well as any
         11    either incidental or direct inspections that you do, or
         12    reviews that you do?
         13              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes, we do.  I was just about to
         14    emphasize that, in addition to our reliance, as I just
         15    mentioned, on Little Harbor and its expertise and findings,
         16    we are carrying out rather extensive activities on our own,
         17    independent of Little Harbor, but certainly related to what
         18    they are doing.
         19              Those activities, Chairman, as you point out,
         20    include an assessment of Little Harbor's effectiveness,
         21    because, obviously, in order to rely on what it is they are
         22    doing, we need to come to an independent conclusion on their
         23    effectiveness.
         24              But what I have listed on the bottom section of
         25    this Slide No. 3 is just a summary listing of the activities
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          1    that the NRC staff is carrying out in connection with these
          2    issues at Millstone.  And they include, very briefly,
          3    continued staff on-site monitoring of both the utility and
          4    the Little Harbor activities at Millstone.
          5              They include recently completed team evaluations
          6    of Employee Concerns Program and Safety Conscious Work
          7    Environment.  That team evaluation also was directed
          8    directly at an assessment of Little Harbor and its
          9    effectiveness.  We are continuing right now to carry out
         10    another inspection, the 40-500 that is focused on a broader
         11    concept of corrective action programs.  We have included an
         12    additional team member to look at SCWE and ECP as it
         13    directly focused in the area of corrective action.  So we've
         14    added a specific team member to augment that inspection team
         15    to -- sort of in recognition of the importance of having an
         16    adequate corrective actions program and the effect that
         17    could have on the safety environment and the employee
         18    concerns program.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me just ask again, though,
         20    are your criteria in that area LHC's criteria, or do you
         21    have additional -- any additional criteria that you --
         22              MR. TRAVERS:  I'm going to ask Phil to address it,
         23    but --
         24              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         25              MR. TRAVERS:  We have laid out in our plan that we
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          1    submitted to the Commission basically our own performance
          2    measures and criteria.
          3              Do you want to --
          4              MR. McGEE:  I'll just add that in our plan we
          5    identify for the most part their process and programmatic
          6    issues that we're looking at, and we've done that as part of
          7    our team evaluation and the activities that Bill described.
          8              But also when you use that to compare that with
          9    Little Harbor, but we've identified some additional measures
         10    and issues that we want resolved in a status that we want to
         11    see for acceptance for restart, and they do mesh with Little
         12    Harbor's criteria in a way, and also the licensee's
         13    criteria.
         14              And that includes items such as looking at their
         15    corrective action program, and as we mentioned the
         16    additional members seeing that issues raised by individuals
         17    in that program are resolved, are resolved promptly, and so
         18    forth.  And also elements in the employee concern program
         19    also, timeliness of case resolution.  And when we do that,
         20    we're looking at what the licensee has found, and also
         21    Little Harbor's assessment in that area.
         22              MR. TRAVERS:  Just to talk a little bit further
         23    about some of the measures we are using, in the next slide
         24    the plan that we're using specifies some of the broad
         25    acceptance measures for determining whether or not adequate
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          1    program improvements to support restart in fact have been
          2    made.  We've indicated an expectation really that the
          3    licensee needs to reach a judgment in this area and that
          4    we're as we mention relying to an extent on Little Harbor's
          5    activities as well.
          6              But some of the areas in looking at the adequacy
          7    of the employee concerns program are listed in terms of
          8    staffing, training qualifications, how they implement their
          9    program, documentation, and so on and so forth.  We have
         10    much more specific things that we look at we have on a
         11    backup slide, but these are sort of a broad treatment of
         12    some of the measures that we include in our program for
         13    assessing these issues.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How many of these areas have
         15    you measured to this point, and are there any preliminary
         16    assessments or conclusions that you --
         17              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes, in fact there are.  We've as I
         18    mentioned completed team evaluations which covered both the
         19    licensee's programs in both ECP and SEWE as well as Little
         20    Harbor's effectiveness in carrying out their oversight
         21    responsibilities.
         22              The way we've documented the results of these team
         23    evaluations to date is via a quick-look letter.  A
         24    quick-look letter is a letter that's public, it documents
         25    the preliminary team evaluation findings.  It's transmitted
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          1    to the licensee.  We've provided it to your offices as well,
          2    relatively recently, I must admit, but nevertheless it's up
          3    there.  So this is the mechanism that we use just prior to
          4    documenting in a formal inspection report.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  The Commissioner said 9:29 this
          6    morning.
          7              MR. TRAVERS:  That's pretty recent.  Yes.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Well, given that quick look,
          9    why don't you give us a quick summary of what's in the quick
         10    look.
         11              MR. McGEE:  Okay.  On the quick look we --
         12    actually there were two reports, and we're going to come out
         13    with final reports in two areas.  One would be to the
         14    licensee, Northeast, describing our evaluation in those
         15    areas, and one to Little Harbor Consultants.  In summary are
         16    looking at the licensee's programs.  We looked extensively
         17    at the employee concern program aspect because those
         18    programs were more developed and established.
         19              I think for the most part in summary we found
         20    similar to what you heard from Little Harbor Consultants'
         21    summary that the activities and the efforts, how they're
         22    dealing with intake of issues, resolution of issues, and
         23    timeliness, that that process and programs and employee
         24    concern program is working well and effectively.
         25              And the safety conscious work environment, that's
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          1    a more difficult area, and we're going to get that
          2    additional piece when we are doing our follow-on on the
          3    corrective action program which I personally think that's a
          4    very important piece.  But we did look at a number of
          5    elements in that area as far as the licensee's dealing with
          6    I think they term it their problem areas, organizational
          7    areas where there's issues.  And we had some findings and
          8    issues there that will require -- I think Little Harbor
          9    mentioned a few of them -- followup and need some additional
         10    attention.
         11              And also looking at their training I think as you
         12    heard before that the training in some of the training
         13    sessions that our staff attended as part of the evaluation
         14    we thought was good and effective, but we did find another
         15    area as far as long-term planning, what are they going to do
         16    in the long term, some deficiencies in that program.  And I
         17    believe I heard Northeast Utilities say that there are plans
         18    to give a more detailed plan in that area, in the safety
         19    conscious work environment.
         20              But we're still out a little bit on the corrective
         21    actions and how those issues evolve, because we've got some
         22    ongoing activities in that area.
         23              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Commissioner McGaffigan.
         24              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  On the slide that you
         25    had up a moment ago, the postrestart elimination of
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          1    third-party oversight, which restart are you talking about? 
          2    Would they stay on board through 2, and if they reoperate
          3    1-1 or how do you see that playing out?
          4              MR. TRAVERS:  Well, I put this on to be inclusive
          5    of everything that's in the order, as it's currently
          6    written, and the order as written anticipated the need for
          7    sustained performance and demonstration given these issues
          8    are not ones that turn around overnight and are quickly
          9    resolved.
         10              Certainly the order as it's interpreted by us in
         11    any case we've put in our plan an expectation that's for at
         12    least six months after restart of at least the first unit we
         13    would expect the third-party oversight organization to be in
         14    place.  That was a guess on our part.  We had to pick a time
         15    frame that might seem reasonable for that kind of sustained
         16    performance to be evidenced, but the order simply specifies
         17    that sufficient -- how is it put? -- the sufficient
         18    performance sustained needs to be at evidence for the staff
         19    to come to a conclusion that the third-party oversight is no
         20    longer required.  So in a sense that's the only element of
         21    the order, strictly speaking, that remains in the most
         22    formal sense.
         23              As I indicated within the RAP, within our restart
         24    assessment plan, the conclusions that the staff has to reach
         25    in ECP and SEWE are still at issue, and we need to come
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          1    before the Commission.
          2              The last bullet, or the second-to-last bullet on
          3    this slide is meant to capture that we intend to do that by
          4    writing a safety evaluation report that covers both of these
          5    issues and provide that to the Commission prior to restart. 
          6    And right now Unit 3 of course is the one that looks to be
          7    the nearest term.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Have you found -- Mr. McGee,
          9    maybe you can answer this -- similar issues with the
         10    oversight and maintenance and oversight of other operating
         11    organizations that Little Harbor spoke to?
         12              MR. McGEE:  We are aware -- and it's rather unique
         13    for us to get -- and a lot of these involve personnel
         14    actions and personnel issues and disciplinary issues, and
         15    they are quite apparent when they come up at the site and
         16    I'll do the sensitivity and we have -- are monitoring with
         17    our staff following along with -- I know Little Harbor gets
         18    the same information following those activities.  And there
         19    are a number of those events and issues, and we are the most
         20    part in an observation role and looking at the licensee's
         21    process for dealing with those issues.  But our findings in
         22    the events are consistent I think with what Little Harbor
         23    described in presenting their attributes.
         24              MR. TRAVERS:  Can I have the next slide, please? 
         25    It would be slide No. 5.
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So these quick-look reports are
          2    publicly available?
          3              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes, they are.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Yes.
          5              MR. TRAVERS:  Maybe I'll just list the fact that
          6    in addition to the ones we've sent up the program
          7    expectation is that for each inspection, at least the team
          8    inspections that we complete from now till the end of the
          9    project we would expect to issue such quick-look reports so
         10    that we can give more timely -- maybe even more timely than
         11    9:00 o'clock at the Commission meeting -- information to
         12    people who are interested in our team evaluations.
         13              The next slide is meant to give you a quick
         14    compilation of the things that we've completed since our
         15    last Commission meeting in December.  One item that's not on
         16    the slide but the Chairman made reference to earlier is the
         17    fact that we've issued a letter recently that is a demand
         18    for information letter on the isolating the cynics issue
         19    that requires Northeast to provide us with information on
         20    their evaluation of the issue and handling of the issue and
         21    whether they think any of what happened involves a violation
         22    of 50.7 requirements.
         23              Other than that, we have continued to meet with
         24    both the Licensee and Little Harbor periodically in public
         25    meetings near Millstone.  As I mentioned, we have completed
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          1    our team evaluations and issued quick-look letters.  We have
          2    ongoing and continuing site monitoring of their activities,
          3    both the licensee's and Little Harbor by NRC staff and
          4    contractors whom we have working with us, and the 4500
          5    inspection is ongoing.
          6              Right now, similar to what you heard from both the
          7    licensee and from Little Harbor, the Staff's assessment of
          8    employee concerns program status is that by virtue of things
          9    like staffing and training, numbers of people working in
         10    that department, the timeliness of resolution of issues, the
         11    quality of resolution of issues, the feedback to the
         12    originators, we find that that program is running at an
         13    acceptable level.  We are going to, of course, continue to
         14    monitor that situation and document it in our report to the
         15    Commission, but at the current time we wanted to provide you
         16    the benefit of our thinking, that this is an acceptable
         17    level of performance on the part of Northeast.
         18              In the broader question of safety-conscious work
         19    environment, our activities are continuing to assess that
         20    and, again, similar to what you heard from both Northeast
         21    and from Little Harbor, we think there is some additional
         22    work that needs to be done, basically in the areas that you
         23    have already heard about.
         24              Through April, we have projected at least that we
         25    would certainly continue to meet on a periodic basis to
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          1    discuss status and monitor the situation at Millstone.  We
          2    expect to issue the formal team evaluation report, this
          3    follow-on, the quick-look, and that we would in all
          4    likelihood, depending upon whether or not the issues are
          5    resolved and completed, develop the safety evaluation that
          6    would document our conclusions with regard to both ECP and
          7    SCWE.
          8              Of course, I put through April, but this will be
          9    when it will be, and it's just sort of a projection, a
         10    planning tool right now for estimating when we might be
         11    done.
         12              Next slide, please.
         13              The restart assessment plan for each of the
         14    Millstone units includes our NRC significant items list
         15    which identifies the individual and programmatic issues that
         16    are at issue, and we are now presenting these in a fashion
         17    similar to what you have already seen to make it clear, at
         18    least fairly clear, where we stand relative to the total
         19    issues and packages that need to be submitted.
         20              NU is providing submittal packages for most of the
         21    significant items list issues, and together with our
         22    inspection reports -- rather, our inspection activities, our
         23    review of these packages are being used to close out these
         24    individual issues as we go forward.  And as you can see, of
         25    the total 216 packages, we have closed out 168 and are
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          1    documenting our closure in inspection reports issued
          2    periodically by the Staff.
          3              We have heard today that there are six packages as
          4    opposed to nine that are now remaining to be submitted. 
          5    That's an update.  And we have under review essentially all
          6    of the ones that haven't been completed.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Are there any items that are of
          8    more concern than others, particularly in the categories of
          9    remaining to be submitted or --
         10              MR. TRAVERS:  I'm going to ask Mr. Lanning to
         11    address a couple of them.
         12              MR. LANNING:  Well, there are some very critical
         13    issues remaining to be addressed by the licensee.  A couple
         14    of more important ones are the submittal packages for
         15    Appendix R of vendor interface, inclusion of vendor
         16    information into procedures, are two examples of key issues
         17    yet to be addressed by Northeast.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         19              MR. TRAVERS:  Next slide, please.
         20              The ICAVP, which was required by an NRC
         21    confirmatory order, is intended, of course, to confirm that
         22    the NU collective actions have been effective in
         23    establishing that the units conform with their licensing and
         24    design basis.  The ICAVP is, in our view, an extraordinary
         25    effort.  In addition to the independent contractor
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          1    activities, the NRC staff is also carrying out a series of
          2    team inspections, and four of five of those inspections have
          3    now been completed at Unit 3.  We have issued the formal
          4    inspection reports for two of those.  Again, quick-look
          5    letters are being issued for the remaining.  We have
          6    actually issued two quick-look letter reports for two of the
          7    inspections, and our fifth inspection, the corrective action
          8    inspection that is going to look at the corrective actions
          9    resulting from findings in ICAVP space, is scheduled.
         10              Together with the Sargent & Lundy reviews, the
         11    ICAVP effort involves a detailed evaluation in tier 1 of 15
         12    of the 88 systems reviewed by NU, and additionally, in tier
         13    2, and tier 3, as you have heard before, the ICAVP will
         14    examine critical design characteristics of some 20-odd other
         15    systems.  So it's quite an encompassing review and --
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  How many people are we talking
         17    about here?
         18              MR. TRAVERS:  Typically on each of the team
         19    inspections, the five inspections the NRC is carrying out,
         20    we have about seven people, and the inspections --
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And how long do the inspections
         22    last themselves?
         23              MR. TRAVERS:  Typically they are four weeks on
         24    site?
         25              MR. IMBRO:  Four or five weeks -- yeah, four weeks
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          1    on site.  Two with a week off, and then back for another
          2    two.
          3              MR. TRAVERS:  Next slide, please.
          4              The results of the completed NRC team inspections
          5    are presented on the next few slides.  The first inspection
          6    that we completed -- and I have actually discussed at
          7    previous Commission meetings -- involved our implementation
          8    inspection of Sargent & Lundy's performance against the
          9    NRC-approved audit plan that Sargent & Lundy is using to
         10    carry out its programs.  This involved a fairly early-on NRC
         11    assessment and we have had others since, and I will talk
         12    about those in a moment, but largely this inspection
         13    confirmed that Sargent & Lundy is carrying out its program
         14    in accordance with that approved audit plan.
         15              The first system safety functional inspection that
         16    we carried out, one of two, was completed in September, and
         17    we talked to the Commission about the results of that
         18    inspection last time.  Basically from that inspection, which
         19    focused on the ECCS mode of the chemical and volume control
         20    system operation at Millstone 3, we identified 16 ICAVP
         21    significance level 3 issues.  Last time when I came to the
         22    Commission, I identified a potential significance level 1, a
         23    fairly significant issue.  Currently, based on information
         24    that the utility has provided to us in a predecisional
         25    enforcement conference, as well as information that we are
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          1    getting on the docket, this finding appears to be more
          2    appropriately classified as a level 3 in the context of our
          3    scheme for ICAVP level significance determinations.
          4              Let me go on to the next inspection.  The next
          5    inspection that we completed in January involved the look at
          6    both tier 2 and tier 3.  In terms of tier 2, we are looking
          7    at accident mitigation systems and again in the context of
          8    tier 2, we are looking at plant change processes.
          9              This inspection had another component of
         10    evaluating the performance of Sargent & Lundy, and in that
         11    context, the inspection concluded again that Sargent & Lundy
         12    is performing their process and program adequately to
         13    support using their conclusions in our program for assessing
         14    the overall conformance with the licensing and design basis.
         15              We did identify some issues, however, with Sargent
         16    & Lundy.  They have taken on those issues and they have
         17    corrected or at least carried on some more activities in
         18    response to the concerns that were raised by that inspection
         19    team.
         20              Again, we did identify some level 3 findings in
         21    this ICAVP -- in this case, six, and we can categorize or
         22    classify those further if you wish.
         23              Last inspection that we have completed is a tier 1
         24    In-scope SSFI.  This is a system by In-scope that Sargent &
         25    Lundy has also examined, the RSS system.
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          1              We have also looked at the emergency diesel
          2    generator and the supplemental leakage collection and
          3    release system.  Again, the component here relating to S&L;
          4    performance, since it is an In-scope system that they looked
          5    at, we looked at their performance by measuring what we
          6    found against what they found, and again our conclusion is
          7    that S&L; performed their program adequately.
          8              Again, though, we did identify some issues, and
          9    they have taken on some additional reviews in response to
         10    those issues, not just for this system, but for other
         11    systems that they have reviewed in the context of their
         12    ICAVP reviews.  So it is both a specific finding and a more
         13    broadly applied Corrective Action, if you will, on the part
         14    of Sargent & Lundy.
         15              Again, the six preliminary ICAVP level 3 findings
         16    are identified in connection with this inspection.
         17              Next slide, please.
         18              Thus far, the most significant findings resulting
         19    from our NRC ICAVP inspections, and, in fact, from Sargent &
         20    Lundy's activities, as well, are at level 3.  Although we
         21    are not -- although we are still in the process, really, of
         22    finalizing a number of these findings, and we have not yet
         23    initiated the ICAVP Corrective Action Inspection, the
         24    results today indicate that the licensee CMP, while not
         25    perfect, has generally been effective in establishing
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          1    conformance with the Unit 3 licensing and design basis.
          2              In order to reach a final determination on this,
          3    of course, we are going to need to complete the program. 
          4    You have heard that only about 30 percent, or 20 percent,
          5    depending on how you count the items being identified by
          6    Sargent & Lundy, have been run through the process.  But I
          7    did want to give you an indication, based on where we think
          8    we are today, both from a standpoint of our assessment of
          9    what is coming out of the Sargent & Lundy review, and our
         10    own NRC team inspections, as to where we are at relative to
         11    this issue.
         12              We are not at end game, but, by virtue of the lack
         13    of significance of the issues, we don't -- we think that,
         14    and, importantly, the review that we will ultimately
         15    complete on the Corrective Actions that need to take place,
         16    we think that today, at least, the findings suggest
         17    reasonable conformance with the licensing and design basis.
         18              In that mode, and an important element of our
         19    level 3 findings, in addition to assessing the significance
         20    of each finding, is our independent evaluation of the
         21    licensee's Corrective Actions.  For all level 3 findings,
         22    the process we are using to determine whether or not to
         23    expand the ICAVP scope is focused on our assessment of the
         24    Corrective Action adequacy, both narrowly and more broadly,
         25    and on our assessment of any trends in these findings.
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          1              In effect, the licensee's Corrective Actions
          2    associated with ICAVP level 3 findings are resulting in an
          3    augmentation to the licensee's original CMP program, and to
          4    our own reviews of what they are doing.  The process we are
          5    using would result in an additional ICAVP review if our
          6    independent evaluation determines that the licensee's
          7    Corrective Actions are inadequate.
          8              To date, we have not identified negative trends in
          9    our inspection findings, but we have only begun our
         10    assessment of Corrective Actions.  So, again, we must
         11    substantially complete the program before reaching a final
         12    conclusion on the effectiveness of the licensee's efforts.
         13              The last bullet on this slide is meant to indicate
         14    that we have recently provided additional information on the
         15    process we are using to make judgments about ICAVP scope
         16    expansion or not.  There is a lot of merit in doing that. 
         17    We have documented that further in additional information
         18    and letters to NEAC, and you and the contractors, and we
         19    have had an opportunity to discuss it at our post recent
         20    public meeting.  It has been an issue, and people in the
         21    area of Millstone have been concerned about this process and
         22    how we are applying it, so we wanted to put on the record
         23    more formally the types of considerations that we are
         24    working through in making these judgments.
         25              Next slide, please.
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          1              The ICAVP activities projected to be completed,
          2    again, through April, are the Unit 3 ICAVP Corrective Action
          3    Inspection, which is scheduled to begin the 23rd of
          4    February, on-site, the Unit 2 ICAVP Tier 1 out-of-scope. 
          5    This is the first SSFI team inspection at Unit 2 and we
          6    expect, and this, again, depends upon where we are at, but
          7    the projection, at least right now, would have us completing
          8    our Restart Assessment Panel Evaluation of the Unit 3
          9    findings from both Sargent & Lundy and from our own NRC team
         10    inspections and documenting our conclusions relative to the
         11    judgment we make regarding conformance or not with the
         12    licensing basis and design basis.
         13              Next slide.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Let me make sure I
         15    understanding something.  You talked about one inspection
         16    that was starting on the 23rd that was a four week on-site
         17    inspection.  Is that the same as --
         18              MR. IMBRO:  That's the Corrective Action
         19    Inspection, you are referring to, Chairman Jackson.  That is
         20    really -- that, right now, is scheduled for three weeks
         21    initially.  We think we may have to, because the licensee
         22    isn't -- well, because the DR process is still ongoing, we
         23    may have to do part of the inspection and inspect what we
         24    can of the work that the licensee has already done, and then
         25    come back, you know, a week or so later and do the
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          1    inspection of the Corrective Actions in response to the
          2    Sargent & Lundy generated Discrepancy Reports.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  But I just want to make
          4    sure I am talking about the same inspection here.
          5              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes.
          6              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So the one you talked about,
          7    this fifth inspection, --
          8              MR. IMBRO:  That's it.
          9              MR. TRAVERS:  That's the Corrective Action.
         10              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And so these are both the same?
         11              MR. IMBRO:  That's it.
         12              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         13              MR. TRAVERS:  I should point out one problem with
         14    this slide.  I have been trying to indicate the on-site time
         15    in all of the dates I have been using.  The second
         16    inspection includes, I think, prep. and documentation. 
         17    There's -- it's too long a period for an on-site inspection,
         18    so I will just point that out now.  Sorry.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now, I don't mean to be picky,
         20    but this fifth inspection, when I asked the question, you
         21    said there were seven people and it would be four weeks on
         22    site.
         23              MR. TRAVERS:  This one, the team inspections to
         24    date on the System Safety Functional Inspection, the two
         25    systems, have involved seven people for four weeks on site. 
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          1    This last inspection -- and if I misled you, I apologize --
          2    the Corrective Action Inspection is right now, and it may
          3    take longer, but it is right now nominally scheduled for
          4    three weeks on site with -- how many people?
          5              MR. IMBRO:  About seven people.
          6              MR. TRAVERS:  About seven people.
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  So the first was
          8    historical?
          9              MR. IMBRO:  Yes.
         10              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes.  And this is the
         11    follow-through.  Just to give you an overall sense of all of
         12    the inspections, at least the ones we have identified that
         13    need to take place before we could be in a position to
         14    consider a restart recommendation, we have put them all down
         15    on this slide, beginning with the ongoing Corrective Action,
         16    or 40500 inspection leading off.  This is a seven person
         17    inspection and it is two weeks on site.
         18              We have inspections in motor operated valves.  The
         19    major team inspections listed here are the, again, the ICAVP
         20    Corrective Action Inspection, the Operational Safety Team
         21    Inspection, which is very much an important determination
         22    for the licensee's transition from a shutdown plant to an
         23    operating plant.  This is an inspection that needs to be
         24    tied to their entry into Mode 4 and if that slips, our
         25    inspection will slip to appropriately cover the activities
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          1    that we need to observe in connection with those operating
          2    mode and operator actions.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So it could be impacted by this
          4    -- what turned up today?
          5              MR. TRAVERS:  That's my point, yeah.  The Deferred
          6    Items List, this is an important one because we have, to
          7    date, conducted three inspections of the Deferred Items
          8    List.
          9              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now, is this another check of
         10    the Open Items List?
         11              MR. TRAVERS:  That's exactly right, it's just a
         12    different terminology for the same thing.
         13              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.
         14              MR. TRAVERS:  We have been periodically received
         15    detailed lists from the licensee of all of the items that
         16    they consider both necessary for restart, as well as the
         17    items that they intend to defer, and we have been inspecting
         18    those periodically.  And I think, as the Chairman pointed
         19    out, we have identified an issue most recently with the
         20    adequacy, in part, at least, of the most recent list.
         21              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And did that -- was that
         22    surfaced through this kind of inspection?
         23              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes, that very inspection is the one
         24    that surfaced that -- that issue.  On the whole, though, I
         25    have to tell you that we have, in pulling the string on some
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          1    of these, even though this turned up a question and it may
          2    ultimately be a serious one, the inspections that we have
          3    conducted against the deferred items have identified a
          4    fairly low threshold for inclusion of many, many things on
          5    this list and appropriate deferral of items that don't have
          6    particular safety significance and are not issues that
          7    affect the licensing or design basis.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Now, will you be giving
          9    particular attention to issues that the licensee is adding
         10    to the list late in the game?
         11              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes, we have one more, or depending
         12    on how many days go by, weeks, we have as many as it takes,
         13    but we are going to perform at least one more of these types
         14    of inspections before coming to the Commission.
         15              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
         16              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  I have a quick question.  Now
         17    that my brain is starved.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  The day is young.
         19              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  There will be no level 3 items
         20    in the deferred list, correct?
         21              MR. IMBRO:  That is probably true because --
         22              MR. TRAVERS:  Level 3 items need to be addressed,
         23    and that is the agreement.
         24              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Need to be resolved before --
         25              MR. TRAVERS:  Resolved, I shouldn't say addressed.
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          1              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  And that is -- that is a clear
          2    distinction?
          3              MR. TRAVERS:  To meet your licensing.
          4              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Level 4, that will be
          5    considered, and could be or not?
          6              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes.  Many of those --
          7              MR. IMBRO:  Likely would be deferred.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Depending upon what you find in
          9    terms of looking for adverse trend.
         10              MR. TRAVERS:  Yes.
         11              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  But no level 3's.  That is an
         12    important distinction.
         13              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  That is an important
         14    distinction.  And I guess you now realize that we have been
         15    sensitized to the Deferred Items List, so expect to see it
         16    in great detail.
         17              MR. TRAVERS:  I think I recognize that.  Each --
         18    the last point I will make on it is that each of these
         19    inspections cover issues that are encompassed in our Restart
         20    Assessment Plan, so that that plan, again, you know, sort of
         21    captures all of this and is our method for documenting
         22    closure in part.
         23              Licensing restart issues are identified on the
         24    next slide.  The two additional issues that need to be
         25    submitted are issues that affect Mode 2 and not Mode 4.  But
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          1    to a large extent, our best sense of where we are relative
          2    to the ones we have under review is that they are being
          3    processed reasonably, on a timely schedule.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So are they likely to be
          5    critical path?  Because normally there is a 30-day Federal
          6    Register notice of license amendments.
          7              MR. TRAVERS:  That's right.  In fact, if you look
          8    at the schedule for the earliest possible treatment of even
          9    a nonsignificant issue, it's about 45 days in terms of the
         10    processes that we have to utilize, Federal Register notice
         11    and so forth.  So it could be, but right now the indication
         12    we have from the licensee is they expect to get that in very
         13    soon.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  It depends on what they get in
         15    and your assessment of what they get in.
         16              MR. TRAVERS:  Getting it in triggers the action
         17    that we take in handling it.
         18              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Very good.
         19              MR. TRAVERS:  The last two slides are slides that
         20    I have typically presented to the Commission in connection
         21    with these briefings, and they are our project planning
         22    schedule.  They are the schedules we use to schedule our
         23    resources, and it's always important to recognize that the
         24    activities that are indicated on here are largely dependent
         25    upon the licensee completing the actions that they need to
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          1    complete for us to come in and carry out an important
          2    inspection.
          3              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  So it's a planning tool.
          4              MR. TRAVERS:  It's a planning tool.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  It does not presuppose any
          6    particular judgment.
          7              MR. TRAVERS:  It certainly does not, and one thing
          8    that I have changed in the presentation this time is we've
          9    removed any -- because this is a planning tool and we don't
         10    plan for the Commission, we've taken out the Commission
         11    meeting date from this slide.  We don't want to lead to any
         12    misunderstandings about the significance of any date we
         13    might list in such a planning tool.  So we've removed that
         14    from the schedules.  I think you could infer when the staff
         15    though will -- could at the earliest be ready to come before
         16    the Commission with a recommendation.
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.  But I think in the end
         18    as you say it's the Commission's meeting date, and you have
         19    to come and present the case, and you have to indicate when
         20    you're ready to do that.
         21              MR. TRAVERS:  I think the best indication of our
         22    not using schedules to drive anything is the fact that these
         23    schedules have changed over time, and you can go back
         24    historically and look at them, and they've changed because
         25    of the need on the licensee's part to complete important
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          1    activities to support us coming behind.
          2              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Very good.
          3              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  May I ask --
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
          5              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  You've effectively
          6    amended the Unit 3 slide as it pertains to license
          7    amendments in your last remarks, right?  At the moment it
          8    carries -- finish 3/6, and I interpret your last remarks to
          9    mean finish around 4/1.
         10              MR. TRAVERS:  Whenever.
         11              COMMISSIONER McGAFFIGAN:  If you get the
         12    application tomorrow.
         13              MR. TRAVERS:  That's right.  It would take 45 days
         14    min.
         15              Chairman, you asked us to address a question about
         16    operability of RSS and if --
         17              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Yes.
         18              MR. TRAVERS:  I'll just do that very quickly now.
         19              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Please.
         20              MR. TRAVERS:  The answer from our view is that we
         21    believe that the modifications that have been made to the
         22    system were necessary to make that system operable.  The
         23    licensee itself has issued at least we believe on four
         24    occasions LER reports that indicate a question about
         25    functionality of that system.  We documented in an NRC
            
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          1    inspection report a potential escalated enforcement issue
          2    associated with operability of the -- functionality of that
          3    system.  So the answer simply is that we believe that that
          4    system was not operable.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Before the modification.
          6              MR. TRAVERS:  Before the modification.  Of course
          7    it's required to be operable in Mode 4 and above.
          8              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.
          9              Commissioner?
         10              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  I was just going to go on
         11    that.  Operability meaning the capability to perform a
         12    safety function according to requirements of the license.
         13              MR. TRAVERS:  Right.
         14              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Is that correct?
         15              MR. CALLAN:  Not necessarily.
         16              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  No?
         17              MR. CALLAN:  A system can be operable -- I mean,
         18    can be functional but not operable.
         19              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Correct.  Correct.  Correct. 
         20    That's what I'm saying.  Operability defined as capability
         21    to perform a safety function.
         22              MR. CALLAN:  Operability as defined by tech specs.
         23              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  Yes.
         24              MR. CALLAN:  Right.  Which does not always
         25    necessarily imply --
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          1              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Right.  So you don't want to
          2    give a universal.  You're saying it's --
          3              MR. CALLAN:  No, no.
          4              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Relative to this particular --
          5              MR. CALLAN:  In fact, that's one of the reasons
          6    we --
          7              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  In this particular --
          8              MR. CALLAN:  That's why we call it a safety system
          9    functionality inspection and not a safety system operability
         10    inspection, because of that distinction.  It's a very
         11    important distinction.
         12              COMMISSIONER DIAZ:  I just wanted to bring it out. 
         13    There is a distinction.  Sometimes I get --
         14              MR. CALLAN:  Right.  And that distinction is
         15    crucial.  It's very important.  Right.
         16              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  And you don't want to go on the
         17    record as saying one thing and something else is in the tech
         18    specs.
         19              MR. CALLAN:  Right.
         20              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Good.
         21              MR. LANNING:  Speaking of which, may I clarify my
         22    response to you on the --
         23              [Laughter.]
         24              MR. LANNING:  Significant items list?
         25              They have submitted packages to us for the vendor
            
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          1    information.  That's just a critical issue that still
          2    remains to be resolved with additional packages coming. 
          3    Whereas with the Appendix R submittal we have not received
          4    any of those packages necessary for inspection of that item.
          5              CHAIRMAN JACKSON:  Okay.  Thank you very much.
          6              Any additional questions from the Commissioners?
          7              We've been here a long time.  I would like to
          8    thank Northeast Utilities, Sargent & Lundy, Parsons Power,
          9    Little Harbor Consultants, and of course the NRC staff for
         10    briefing the Commission on the progress in assessing
         11    readiness for restart of the Millstone units.
         12              And once again I will state on behalf of the
         13    Commission that we recognize how difficult it is to condense
         14    the substance of the reviews performed by each of you into
         15    briefings like this.  And that is the primary reason that
         16    the NRC in November of 1996 created the Special Projects
         17    Office to provide for direct oversight of all licensing and
         18    inspection activities and to tailor the NRC staff's
         19    guidelines for restart approval to specifically assess
         20    deficiencies at the Millstone units.
         21              And as I state at each meeting and I'll state
         22    here, the Commission does not presuppose that any of the
         23    three plants will restart by any certain date.  The
         24    Commission is primarily concerned in ensuring that the
         25    Millstone station is a safe station with an effective
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          1    corrective action program and an environment supportive of
          2    the raising of and resolution of safety concerns.
          3              Now with respect to the schedule for the next
          4    Commission meeting on Millstone, I think it is important to
          5    recognize that when a plant has been shut down for an
          6    extended period of time, even under a confirmatory action
          7    letter, which is more narrowly tailored typically, for
          8    example, the licensee will usually establish dates to
          9    facilitate its planning and scheduling of activities in
         10    support of plant restart, and it is used as part of what the
         11    staff may use in planning its work.
         12              However, licensees quite often take longer than
         13    they expect to complete their restart activities, leading to
         14    concomitant adjustments or delays in the schedule for the
         15    staff's reviews, inspections, and assessments of a plant's
         16    readiness for restart.
         17              And in the case of Millstone, given the scope,
         18    complexity, and significance of the issues there, it is
         19    natural to expect that the resolution of the issues may take
         20    a little while longer.
         21              The NRC staff, and I said this when I was in
         22    Connecticut, has been directed to stay focused on doing
         23    objective assessments and to call it as they see it.
         24              In preparing for any subsequent Commission
         25    meetings and in reports to the Commission, I would like to
            
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          1    ask the staff to give particular attention to and to provide
          2    information in the following ten areas which has already
          3    been transmitted to the staff through a tasking memo from me
          4    to Mr. Callan, the EDO.  But I will list them.
          5              First, crisp, clear analyses of the issues with
          6    recommendations where appropriate for the Commission.  And
          7    that's because you're talking to the Commission, not to
          8    yourselves.
          9              Second, a summary of independent NRC actions, for
         10    example, inspections or any other assessments, supporting
         11    staff decision making.  But this requires a layout of the
         12    criteria that you're using to make those assessments.
         13              Third, impartial evidence that Northeast Utilities
         14    has made sufficient progress and fixed the underlying
         15    problems in both employee concerns and the corrective action
         16    processes or not.  Yet impartial evidence that the licensee
         17    for instance has addressed problem identification.  Root
         18    cause evaluation.  Resolution for the individual issue.  The
         19    evaluation of and resolution of any generic issues that are
         20    captured by that as appropriate.  And the timeliness and
         21    comprehensiveness overall of problem resolution.
         22              Fourth, an objective discussion of what the
         23    aforementioned items indicate about the effectiveness of the
         24    licensee employee concerns program and corrective action and
         25    configuration management processes.
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          1              Fifth, a discussion of and conclusion of
          2    acceptability of the resolution of any and all existing or
          3    previous open items including any specific employee concerns
          4    issues raised and any of the previously identified open
          5    items.
          6              Sixth, the strength of quality assurance and
          7    management oversight.
          8              Seventh, resolution of issues related to
          9    enforcement, allegations, and petitions.
         10              Eighth, the screening process and acceptance
         11    criteria for reaching conclusions including any
         12    justifications or basis for allowing any open items at the
         13    time of plant restart.
         14              Ninth, an appropriate staff-recommended regulatory
         15    tool for enforcing a schedule for resolution of any open
         16    items at restart.
         17              And tenth, a discussion of issues impacting
         18    operational readiness for restart, along with a discussion
         19    of the stability of the organization for continued safe
         20    operation upon restart in light of resources being diverted
         21    to other units.
         22              And so unless my fellow Commissioners have any
         23    additional comments, we're adjourned.
         24              [Whereupon, at 1:37 p.m., the hearing was
         25    concluded.]
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