GLOBE Program Chat Room

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Thu Apr 22 15:55:24 2004

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:01:14 ]
Greetings from the GLOBE Office. Happy Earthday. The topic of discussion is how GLOBE measurements can protect our Earth. We have Dr. Peggy LeMone (GLOBE Chief Scientist), Jessica Robin (Soil Scientist), and Larry Ryan (Landcover Specialist) with us to answer your Webchat questions. The Webchat is open now!

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:05:36 ]
Good Morning, All. Glad to have an opportunity to take part in this chat.

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:07:53 ]
Good morning and Happy Earth Day to all. Looking forward to participating in this chat.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:08:36 ]
RE: [Larry/GLOBE] Good Morning, All. Glad to have an opportunity to take part in this chat.
Hi Larry, What is the weather like in Maine? We may be getting snow in Colorado today.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:09:26 ]
Well...for once I may be glad to be in Maine in April. Mild with light rain today, highs will be in the teens (C).

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:10:02 ]
Greetings from the GLOBE team in Bahrain!! Happy Earth day

[ Salman/Abdullah/ShkAbdulAziz/Hidaya/BH - 0 - 13:10:33 ]
hi i am salman from shk. Abdul aziz school, and Abdullah from Hedaya school. and happy Earth year

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebintermediategirlsschool/BH - 0 - 13:10:41 ]
hello everyone we are Eman Yousif ans Miss Najla..happy Earth day!!!

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:11:00 ]
And Earth Day greetins to you, too.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:11:03 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] Greetings from the GLOBE team in Bahrain!! Happy Earth day
Greetings! Have you done anything special for Earth Day?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:11:55 ]
Now that we have some folks on board, how are all of you using GLOBE measurements to investigate your local environments?

[ LAITHM3NSAFWANRADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:12:10 ]
LET'S GET OUT OF GODMORNINGS AND START TALKING

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:12:51 ]
Yes, we have done a Beach Survey this morning, we were collecting trash and garbage from different beaches around Bahrain

[ Salman/Abdullah/ShkAbdulAziz/Hidaya/BH - 0 - 13:13:04 ]
hi i am salman from shk. Abdul aziz school, and Abdullah from Hedaya school. and happy Earth year

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:13:05 ]
Ah...the Pioneer Center! I have seen much of your work.

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:13:20 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] Yes, we have done a Beach Survey this morning, we were collecting trash and garbage from different beaches around Bahrain
What are your soils like there?

[ RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO - 0 - 13:13:22 ]
Greetings from Amman/Jordan to All GLOBE colleages Happy earth day and happy anniversary, we are gathered here at FOES to celebrate this global event

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:13:57 ]
RE: [Salman/Abdullah/ShkAbdulAziz/Hidaya/BH] hi i am salman from shk. Abdul aziz school, and Abdullah from Hedaya school. and happy Earth year
Happy Earth Day to you also!

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:14:42 ]
To the Bahrain group: You have an ideal situtation for doing significant environmental work. Your kingdom is small enough so that you can understand and investigate all of the environmental areas in it, and look at how they are changing over time. It is change that is important to be able to quantify, and you are in an unique position to do so.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:15:09 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] Yes, we have done a Beach Survey this morning, we were collecting trash and garbage from different beaches around Bahrain
What did you find on the beaches in Bahrain?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:15:36 ]
My greetings to the Jordan FOES. I have happy memories of my work with your great staff members.

[ ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB - 0 - 13:15:47 ]
Happy Earth Day! My students worked on testing the water quality at Riviera beach this morning

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:15:49 ]
DEAR LARRY, HOW ARE YOU WE WANT A NEW SATTEL MAP TO OUR SITE

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebintermediategirlsschool/BH - 0 - 13:16:09 ]
To Larry....what are have you done

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:16:18 ]
Any one see any contrails this morning? It is overcast and raining here in Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A., and it is supposed to snow this afternoon.

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:16:25 ]
our soils are very dry and sandy, especially on the sea shores!! in other places there's some clay

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:16:36 ]
I noticed that the soils in Bahrain, Jordan, and Lebanon all have a lot of carbonates in them. Why do you think this is so?

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:16:37 ]
We found lots of wood, plastic and charcoal, really

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebintermediategirlsschool/BH - 0 - 13:16:42 ]
what have you done for the Earth day???

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:16:44 ]
RE: [ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB] Happy Earth Day! My students worked on testing the water quality at Riviera beach this morning
What types of testing did you do - such as temperature, transparency?

[ RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO - 0 - 13:16:54 ]
hi happy earth day for all we hope to see a happy earth day amman /jordan [dana .muna ]

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:17:10 ]
To the pioneer center: I have been talking with GLOBE and the land cover team to see if we can get you another image of your area. Your current image is fairly recent, so I am suggesting we get you an older image (early 1990's) so that you can look at what changes have occured since then.

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:17:10 ]
Hello.

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:17:39 ]
Hi Dr. Rebecca Boger.

[ Salman/Abdullah/ShkAbdulAziz/Hidaya/BH - 0 - 13:17:47 ]
to peggy :: yes we have. in bahrain we saw four contrails 2 short lived, one spreading and one non-spreading.

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:17:50 ]
DEAR LARRY, HOW ARE YOU WE WANT A NEW SATTEL MAP TO OUR SITE PLEASE SEND IT TO US BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER RESEARCH ABOUT BUILDINGS AREA INCREASING>>>>>> YOUR'S SINCERLY KAMELAH OBEIDAT

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:17:54 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] We found lots of wood, plastic and charcoal, really
When I was in Bahrain last week, I was told that many of the beaches have been made by people for new construction. How do you think this is affecting the sea environment?

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:17:59 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] our soils are very dry and sandy, especially on the sea shores!! in other places there's some clay
Have you taken pH measurements of the soils? How do they compare with the water pH?

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:18:11 ]
hi Dr.Jessica

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 13:18:13 ]
Hi, Mr. Larry

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:18:17 ]
I hope all are aware that our current satellite, Landsat 7, is now out of service because of sensor problems, so 1994 images will not be available.

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:18:18 ]
hi Dr.Jessica

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:18:56 ]
Fadi: Greetings my old friend. How are you and how goes your studying?

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:19:08 ]
RE: [Salman/Abdullah/ShkAbdulAziz/Hidaya/BH] to peggy :: yes we have. in bahrain we saw four contrails 2 short lived, one spreading and one non-spreading.
Thank you! I am guessing that you have nice weather today.

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:19:14 ]
THANK YOU LARRY

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:19:43 ]
RE: [LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO] THANK YOU LARRY
I will keep you informed of our progress,

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:19:44 ]
RE: [Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO] hi Dr.Jessica
Hello Khalilhamarneh - what kind of soils do you have at your school?

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:19:46 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Hi Dr. Rebecca Boger.
Hi, I'm told that Jordan is very beautiful. What types of environmental studies have you been doing?

[ ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB - 0 - 13:19:48 ]
Currently I am working on integrating the GLOBE protocols into the ES, MS and HS curriculum. So by next year, the entire ACS student body will be actively working on GLOBE.

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:20:12 ]
Hello Dr. Rebbecca.

[ Salman/Abdullah/ShkAbdulAziz/Hidaya/BH - 0 - 13:20:14 ]
to peggy: well not actully, today it was sunny, and most of us had sun-burns

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 13:20:32 ]
I'm fine, how are you? I'm doing well in my studies

[ AhmedandYousuf/ShKhalifaInstituteforTecnology/BH - 0 - 13:20:48 ]
to Jessica it might be from the high tempreture here and after it avaporates it leaves salt and carbonates.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:20:50 ]
How about some student response to the following question: How can your GLOBE observations help you, and your country, understand the environmental problems in your area?

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:20:57 ]
Hello, This is Ghada Fathy from egypt

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:21:17 ]
Re: Jessica We're defenitly ruining a lot of the continental shelf, and a lot of fishing grounds

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:21:30 ]
To Jessica: We have only done Hydrology measurements today, but no soil the ph of our water was 7.15

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:21:31 ]
Basic Studies

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:21:48 ]
Happy Earth Day to all,

[ RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO - 0 - 13:21:50 ]
hi Becky are you on line? we had our own chatting yesterday and it is really nice knowing you and all US GLOBE Prof.

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:21:53 ]
DR.LARRY CAN YOU TELL US PLEASE ABOUT THE SCHOOL THAT SHARE WITH US WITH CORDANATES IN U.S ......M3N

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:22:02 ]
RE: [AhmedandYousuf/ShKhalifaInstituteforTecnology/BH] to Jessica it might be from the high tempreture here and after it avaporates it leaves salt and carbonates.
Yes, I think that is a good explanation. And what about the precipitation - how much do you get each year and when?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:22:20 ]
RE: [GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG] Hello, This is Ghada Fathy from egypt
Greetings to Egypt, and happy Earth Day.

[ ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB - 0 - 13:22:32 ]
We tested for all the hydrology protocols as well as a bacteria count. We tested for total count, Coliform, Staf, and Claustridium perfringes. These are all bacteria whcih if found in high concentrations can be a public health concern for swimmers.

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:22:54 ]
OFcourse we have,the soil pH under the pine trees are acidic in another araea it is slightly basic,however limestone is the major parent rock. most of the soil is clay here too!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:23:06 ]
RE: [ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB] Currently I am working on integrating the GLOBE protocols into the ES, MS and HS curriculum. So by next year, the entire ACS student body will be actively working on GLOBE.
Renee - This is fantastic! I have been on travel and will respond to your email soon. We would like to learn more about what you are doing with curriculum integration. It may be helpful for other countries in the Middle East.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:23:11 ]
RE: [LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO] DR.LARRY CAN YOU TELL US PLEASE ABOUT THE SCHOOL THAT SHARE WITH US WITH CORDANATES IN U.S ......M3N
I am not sure which school you are referring to. Do you have a name or geographic coordinates? I could then look up something about them.

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:23:36 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] To Jessica: We have only done Hydrology measurements today, but no soil the ph of our water was 7.15
What do you think the soil pH might be?

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:23:38 ]
RE: Larry: Looking at the data we collect over time, we can observe changes over time. So if for example we see the salinity in a river rising over a period of time, we can assume that we're ahving a pollution problem somewhere

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:23:45 ]
OFcourse we have,the soil pH under the pine trees are acidic in another araea it is slightly basic,however limestone is the major parent rock. most of the soil is clay here too!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:24:05 ]
RE: [ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB] We tested for all the hydrology protocols as well as a bacteria count. We tested for total count, Coliform, Staf, and Claustridium perfringes. These are all bacteria whcih if found in high concentrations can be a public health concern for swimmers.
Why do you think there is so much bacteria? What can be done to decrease the levels?

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:24:42 ]
Dr. Rebbecca we do Basic Studies.

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:24:47 ]
RE: [Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO] OFcourse we have,the soil pH under the pine trees are acidic in another araea it is slightly basic,however limestone is the major parent rock. most of the soil is clay here too!
If limestone is the major parent maeterial then how do you think that might affect the soil pH?

[ AhmedandYousuf/ShKhalifaInstituteforTecnology/BH - 0 - 13:24:48 ]
to Jessica:

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 13:24:51 ]
To Larry: What happened to the new sattelite imegies?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:25:41 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] RE: Larry: Looking at the data we collect over time, we can observe changes over time. So if for example we see the salinity in a river rising over a period of time, we can assume that we're ahving a pollution problem somewhere
Is rising salinity a "pollution?" Is it caused by changes in water levels or invasion of ground water by sea water? A very interesting observation that need investigation. I lived long ago in an area where sea water invaded ground water supplies (it was on an island.) Extensive measures had to be taken to fix the problem.

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:25:58 ]
Dr.Rebbeca, How can we get involved in the internationl projects and meet the students working in it?

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:26:04 ]
RE: Jessica: We don't normally get more than say, 100 cm2 of rain. But this year has been very strange..we ware still getting showers and its nearly May...our last rain usually comes around Mid -Feb

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:26:19 ]
To Larry: I think The Globe Project very useful to all studets, because they are dealing with the earth problems, and face it in the right way.

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:26:19 ]
to Jessica, the soil pH would be more than 7 or around 8 maybe

[ RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO - 0 - 13:26:19 ]
GLOBE Jordan was planning to have a Digital Video Conference todaywith GLOBE Tenessee but unfortunatly couldnt make it

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:26:28 ]
AROUND OUR SCHOOL THE soil is mainly silt clay.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:26:34 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] To Larry: What happened to the new sattelite imegies?
Fadi: Do you mean Landsat 7? It has suffered a major sensor failure.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:26:36 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Dr. Rebbecca we do Basic Studies.
I'm not sure what you mean by basic studies? Do you mean GLOBE basic protocols?

[ AhmedandYousuf/ShKhalifaInstituteforTecnology/BH - 0 - 13:26:43 ]
sorry may will answer your question!

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:27:21 ]
DR.LARRY>>>>AGAIN I GUESS WE SHOULD HAVE A LOCAL CONTACTS ON NET SO WE CAN ESIER HAVE ASNWERES ABOUT OUR TESTS.

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:27:56 ]
To all: I want to ask you about the river in your country?.. if you have

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebintermediategirlsschool/BH - 0 - 13:28:06 ]
To Larry: what about the International Coastal Cleanup day that takes part on the third Saturday in September????

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:28:13 ]
keefak

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:28:14 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] RE: Jessica: We don't normally get more than say, 100 cm2 of rain. But this year has been very strange..we ware still getting showers and its nearly May...our last rain usually comes around Mid -Feb
Do you mean mm per year?

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:28:15 ]
keefak

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:28:26 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] RE: Jessica: We don't normally get more than say, 100 cm2 of rain. But this year has been very strange..we ware still getting showers and its nearly May...our last rain usually comes around Mid -Feb
I have been in communication with some Bahraini students this winter/spring, and they have all been surprised at how different the precipitation pattern is this year. Any ideas why?

[ RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO - 0 - 13:28:34 ]
dr. Larry hi i heard so much about you would like to say hi

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 13:28:50 ]
So, how can we study the change protocole? (larry)

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:28:58 ]
RE: [RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO] GLOBE Jordan was planning to have a Digital Video Conference todaywith GLOBE Tenessee but unfortunatly couldnt make it
This is too bad. But we are glad you could join us! In the Arabian Gulf, salinity gets over 50 ppt. This is VERY high. Why do you think this happens?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:29:25 ]
RE: [RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO] dr. Larry hi i heard so much about you would like to say hi
And hello to you. Do not believe everything you hear, I am really a nice person!

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:29:49 ]
Re Larry; That's exactly the problem we're having here...we're drawing excesively on our ground water supplies,and then the water table "balance" is ruined, and sea water seeps into the sweet water reservoirs..i don't exactly remember the the mechanism

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:29:51 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] to Jessica, the soil pH would be more than 7 or around 8 maybe
Yes, I would think the same. Do you also have limestone parnet material like AmmanBaccalaureate School in Jordan

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:30:13 ]
Dr. Rebbeca, we do projects based on the Protocol.

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:30:30 ]
RE: [GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG] To all: I want to ask you about the river in your country?.. if you have
There are many large rivers. Near us, we have the North Platte River. Farther east, is the Missouri and Mississippi River system. My family grew corn (maize) and soybeans where the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers come together.

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 13:30:32 ]
hi happy earth day for all we hope anice day amman /jordan

[ sami/Khalifa/QA - 0 - 13:30:54 ]
Hi all

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:30:55 ]
RE: [Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO] AROUND OUR SCHOOL THE soil is mainly silt clay.
And what is the pH?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:31:18 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] So, how can we study the change protocole? (larry)
Fadi: The images you have are relatively recent (early 2000's) It would be very instructive to take images from the early 1990's, about 10 years old, and look at the changes since then. Ten years is a good time span to examine in an area like yours that has undergone significant expansion and environmental problems. It would be nice to have images dating back even farther.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:31:24 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Dr. Rebbeca, we do projects based on the Protocol.
This is wonderful! What types of projects are you doing?

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:31:36 ]
to Jessica, so what's on at your place for the Earthday today?

[ ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB - 0 - 13:31:37 ]
The high concentrations of bacteria are due to raw sewage waste being dumped out intot he sea sn onto our beaches. The way to stop this is to start treating our sewage and stop dumping it directly onto beaches with high public accessibility.

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:32:15 ]
Dr Jessica, the pH is about 8.

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebintermediategirlsschool/BH - 0 - 13:32:41 ]
To Larry:the precipitation pattern changes because of the pollution we have around the world and in Bahrain, that affects the weather and the ozone layer..

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:32:53 ]
To RundAwwad: It is good idea to do a digital conference , with another country , to exchange the experemnts and information.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:32:57 ]
Renee: Greetings, and it is great to hear that you are doing so well with GLOBE. I enjoyed my visit so much!

[ sami/Khalifa/QA - 0 - 13:32:58 ]
Happy earthday. I woundr what are the GLOBE measurments that could protect earth?

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:33:28 ]
Re: Becky: Excessive evaproation, with very little rivers flowing into the Gulf

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:33:44 ]
Dr. Rebbeca we have just finished macathon, as a further study we will study the change protocol as an indication for urban sprawl also once we get all the equipment needed we will start GAPS.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:34:02 ]
RE: [ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB] The high concentrations of bacteria are due to raw sewage waste being dumped out intot he sea sn onto our beaches. The way to stop this is to start treating our sewage and stop dumping it directly onto beaches with high public accessibility.
This is terrible! How do you think this is affecting the sea life? Do you think projects using GLOBE protocols could help improve the beaches?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:34:40 ]
RE: [EmanYousif/Yathrebintermediategirlsschool/BH] To Larry:the precipitation pattern changes because of the pollution we have around the world and in Bahrain, that affects the weather and the ozone layer..
Interesting: Now the problem is to look at the specific local and regional problems that directly affect your precipitation. It is fine to say that "world pollution" is to blame, but in our investigations we must be as focused as we can be to find those things that we can directly influence for the better of the environment. It's hard to tackly the whole world at once.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:35:32 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Re: Becky: Excessive evaproation, with very little rivers flowing into the Gulf
Do you think the salinity is the same everywhere in the Gulf?

[ Maha/Hidd/BH - 0 - 13:35:37 ]
to Becky: hi I am Maha from Hidd Secondary school, I'd like to point out that we found some oil while we were surveying the beach. And this really effects the environment directly specially the living creatures there.The main problem we face in Bahrain is reclaiming sea which leads to other serious enviromental problems. For example today we measured the beach salinity and it was 56 which proves the reclamation effect on the environment. And as a GLOBE student, i really want to help solving this problem, so what do you suggest to do other than giving lectures?

[ sami/Khalifa/QA - 0 - 13:35:44 ]
GLOBE Measurements????

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 13:35:47 ]
when we joined in globe we cant through anything on the ground so thats agood thing and we hope everyone became like us

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:36:05 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Dr. Rebbeca we have just finished macathon, as a further study we will study the change protocol as an indication for urban sprawl also once we get all the equipment needed we will start GAPS.
Excellent: Hooray for MUC-A-Thons. They are an excellent way to develop a thorough understanding of what is happening in your area. Now would also be a good time to investigate the use of Geographic Information Systems to display your data.

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:36:08 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] to Jessica, so what's on at your place for the Earthday today?
Well, I live in Washington DC and it is a beautiful day here. We had a wet spring this year, but today the sun is shining and all the flowers are blooming. Days like this make you really appreciate the environment.

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:36:27 ]
RE: [sami/Khalifa/QA] Happy earthday. I woundr what are the GLOBE measurments that could protect earth?
We can learn from looking at any of the water-quality measurements -- pH, nitrates, dissolved oxygen. Of course, many things can change these. And who would have known even air temperature measurements are now important, since the average air temperature near the surface is rising.

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:36:37 ]
DR.LARRY>>>>AGAIN I GUESS WE SHOULD HAVE A LOCAL CONTACTS ON NET SO WE CAN ESIER HAVE ASNWERES ABOUT OUR TESTS.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:37:08 ]
RE: [muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown] when we joined in globe we cant through anything on the ground so thats agood thing and we hope everyone became like us
If everyone in the world just stopped throwing things on the ground, we would make a big impact on the environment! Great!

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 13:37:25 ]
Do we have for our school(Amman Baccalaureate School)images in the year of 1990 which contains all the extentions neede to study the change? (larry)

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:38:06 ]
Ok Dr. Larry.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:38:28 ]
RE: [Larry/GLOBE] Is rising salinity a "pollution?" Is it caused by changes in water levels or invasion of ground water by sea water? A very interesting observation that need investigation. I lived long ago in an area where sea water invaded ground water supplies (it was on an island.) Extensive measures had to be taken to fix the problem.
This is a very interesting question and one that I never considered as pollution. However, it is caused by human activities and harming life in the sea, so I guess it could be considered pollution. I will have to ask other experts and get back to you.

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebschool/BH - 0 - 13:38:31 ]
To Larry: can you please tell me about the International Coastal Cleanup day which is held on the third Saturday in September every year????

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:38:37 ]
RE: [LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO] DR.LARRY>>>>AGAIN I GUESS WE SHOULD HAVE A LOCAL CONTACTS ON NET SO WE CAN ESIER HAVE ASNWERES ABOUT OUR TESTS.
Excellent idea! You certainly have many local contacts. While web chats are wonderful, they happen only once in a while. Making contacts with local experts gives you someone who is always available.

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:38:48 ]
RE: [Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO] Dr Jessica, the pH is about 8.
It's interesting to see such high pH levels. I just received an email yesterday from a GLOBE school in upstate NY and their soil pH was 5.0 to 6.0. Why do you think your soil pH is so different than theirs?

[ RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO - 0 - 13:39:09 ]
Hi Beckky Mr. Robert Parua UNESCO program officer says hi to you he has just brought the full address of WHC office in Paris

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:39:10 ]
To Jessica, oh yes!!! our day out at the beach was also so nice, and we were very surprised to see some contrails!

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:39:20 ]
I am so glad to be participate with you in this chat , because i am new member in th Globe project . iand i know many new information about you and your experiances from this chat

[ Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:39:32 ]
Dr.Jessica how is GAPS helping the globe program?and you said that we could the latest version of the software? how could we get it?

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:39:33 ]
RE: [muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown] when we joined in globe we cant through anything on the ground so thats agood thing and we hope everyone became like us
Hi and Happy Earth Day! Where are you writing from?

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:39:42 ]
No it differs...it's saltier on the coasts, and it gets less saline near Iran where two rivers flow in

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:39:48 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Dr.Rebbeca, How can we get involved in the internationl projects and meet the students working in it?
What types of projects are you interested in doing? How about working with some schools participating in this web chat?

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:40:15 ]
RE: [RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO] hi Becky are you on line? we had our own chatting yesterday and it is really nice knowing you and all US GLOBE Prof.
I enjoyed talking to you as well.

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:40:17 ]
Mnee7 Khalil :P

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:40:49 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] To Jessica: We have only done Hydrology measurements today, but no soil the ph of our water was 7.15
Is this similar to other measurements you have taken?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:40:59 ]
RE: [EmanYousif/Yathrebschool/BH] To Larry: can you please tell me about the International Coastal Cleanup day which is held on the third Saturday in September every year????
Here in Maine, students, teachers, parents and citizens go out and walk the lengths of our beachers and coastline (we have 5000 km of coastlinie in my state alone) cleaning up the trash they find. This trash is cataloged so we have an inventory of what kinds and how much are arriving on our beaches. Sometimes the source of the trash can be identified. For example, several years ago hundrede of SNEAKERS washed ashore. It turned out that a ship, in trouble off the coast, had to jetison cargo. Sneakers.

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 13:41:04 ]
we have problme which is we are student and we havent enough time to work in globe

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:41:53 ]
We are intrested in change of protocol and change of GAPS. Good idea Rebbecca, is there a better idea? I think this web chat needs more tools.

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 13:42:12 ]
Happy Earth Day from Florida!

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 13:42:42 ]
So how are Dr. Becky and Dr. Jessica?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:43:29 ]
RE: [muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown] we have problme which is we are student and we havent enough time to work in globe
This is a problem around the world. But, as students, anything you do is important, because you are preparing yourselves to become the leaders of the future. Having a good awareness of the environment, its fragile nature, and what we need to do will make you good citizens of your country, your region, and the world. Remember that we must understand our own environment before we can understand the world.

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 13:43:33 ]
hi peggy thank for you we are from aqaba/jordan

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 13:43:34 ]
hi peggy thank for you we are from aqaba/jordan

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:44:01 ]
TO ALL: WHAT IS THE NEW SUGGESTED RESEARCHES FOR QATAR CONFERECE WE SUGGEST FOR THAT WATER INVERTIBRATES COUNT IN THE HYDROLOGY SITE DO YOU AGREE THIS???

[ sami/Khalifa/QA - 0 - 13:44:03 ]
To Becky: Regarding Salinaity, I do not think salinity is the same all around the gulf. May this is right is the east side like Qatar, Bahrain, but the west is something totaly different.

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:44:03 ]
Re: Larry: Well, we don't get sneakers, but we DO get a lot of tar, and splintered wood..and plastic, the eternal problem

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:44:05 ]
RE: [Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US] Happy Earth Day from Florida!
Greetings, Paul. How is the Sunshine state today?

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:44:46 ]
RE: [muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown] we have problme which is we are student and we havent enough time to work in globe
There is so much to learn, so I understand it is difficult to find time to work in GLOBE. There are some GLOBE activities that take less time -- for example, it doesn't take a long time to look at the sky and see whether there are contrails; or to figure out what kind of clouds you are looking at. Also, it doesn't take long to measure air temperature or precipitation.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:44:46 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Re: Larry: Well, we don't get sneakers, but we DO get a lot of tar, and splintered wood..and plastic, the eternal problem
Tar is interesting. Well, not as tar, but as a beach pollutant. Do you have hypotheses about where it comes from?

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:45:18 ]
RE: [Khalilhamarneh/AmmanBaccalaureateSchool/JO] Dr.Jessica how is GAPS helping the globe program?and you said that we could the latest version of the software? how could we get it?
Basic GAPS is a computer simulation model for students that lets you study the interplay among the different GLOBE measurements and how each affects the Earth system. The model was developed by researchers at Cornell University and we first need to get the software copyrighted. Once that process is complete then we can send you a copy of the software. We hope to have that done in the next couple of weeks. Please send me your address so I can send you the software.

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 13:45:38 ]
In Florida many groups and schools participate in the annual Coastal Cleanup. The group in Florida responsible for organizing it is Friends of Florida Fishermen, I think, but usually a conservation or environmental group in each state or country gets it going. Lots of trash is removed from the beaches in these events.

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:45:40 ]
To Becky, yes the pH is never more that 8, we have tested that on different sites in Bahrain, but we use different equipment everytime, sometimes we use the pH pen and today we used the pH meter and the meter is more acurate!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:45:46 ]
RE: [Maha/Hidd/BH] to Becky: hi I am Maha from Hidd Secondary school, I'd like to point out that we found some oil while we were surveying the beach. And this really effects the environment directly specially the living creatures there.The main problem we face in Bahrain is reclaiming sea which leads to other serious enviromental problems. For example today we measured the beach salinity and it was 56 which proves the reclamation effect on the environment. And as a GLOBE student, i really want to help solving this problem, so what do you suggest to do other than giving lectures?
Now you are acting like a SCIENTIST. You have identified some unusual values. How can you design a project to demonstrate increasing salinity values and how this is affecting the sea environment. So, go through the scientific method and draw conclusions that can be presented to others to inform others of what is happening. Maybe then you can figure out how to solve the problem.

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:46:04 ]
HIIIIIIIIIII>>>>AQABA>>>>>>>>

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 13:46:49 ]
Larry - our weather is fine this morning - we had lots of contrails last night at 0000 UTC so we will be sending in that report today when we do data entry later! Good to see all the FOES people from Jordan, too!

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:47:40 ]
RE: [LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO] HIIIIIIIIIII>>>>AQABA>>>>>>>>
Welcome, and Happy Earth Day!

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:48:09 ]
we are in Egypet will make a celebration about the earth day on the second week in may.we will do in the same day video conference between Egypt and one school in USA, and may be NASA shar with us on it, to discuss about the our new project in Egypt it is called " ALGE, Hedorology study in our NILE RIVER, protected erea, birds. we hope if you have a time , please, share with us in this event, or try to suggesst to us some ideas to do it in our celebration.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:48:15 ]
RE: [RundAwwad/FriendsofEnvironmentSociety/JO] Hi Beckky Mr. Robert Parua UNESCO program officer says hi to you he has just brought the full address of WHC office in Paris
Wonderful! Please say Hi to him. I look forward to talking later.

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:48:28 ]
I noticed that there is a common theme in this web chat - salinity in the water and soil. What do you all think?

[ ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB - 0 - 13:48:39 ]
The high concentrations of Nitrogen in the sewage are actually a more serious throet to the sea life than the bacteria. The depletion of Oxegen in the water makes the productivity go down. The bacteria causes a concern for mamals, but we have very few dolphons in the eastern Med and no seals or sea lions. We have to be concerned when we walk our dogs on the beach though and they are exposed to the high bacterial concentrations as well.

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:48:58 ]
RE: [Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US] Larry - our weather is fine this morning - we had lots of contrails last night at 0000 UTC so we will be sending in that report today when we do data entry later! Good to see all the FOES people from Jordan, too!
Hi Paul -- no contrails visible here! Weather -- rain changing to snow.

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:49:26 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] So how are Dr. Becky and Dr. Jessica?
I'm doing well and how are you doing?

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:49:40 ]
Re: Larry: Oil tankers, the enitre gulf is is an oil-producing region, and a lot of it is done offshore...the ballast water emptied from oily tankers is another thing

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:50:17 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] We are intrested in change of protocol and change of GAPS. Good idea Rebbecca, is there a better idea? I think this web chat needs more tools.
What do you mean by more tools?

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:50:22 ]
RE: [ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB] The high concentrations of Nitrogen in the sewage are actually a more serious throet to the sea life than the bacteria. The depletion of Oxegen in the water makes the productivity go down. The bacteria causes a concern for mamals, but we have very few dolphons in the eastern Med and no seals or sea lions. We have to be concerned when we walk our dogs on the beach though and they are exposed to the high bacterial concentrations as well.
Where does all that nitrogen come from?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:50:26 ]
RE: [GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG] we are in Egypet will make a celebration about the earth day on the second week in may.we will do in the same day video conference between Egypt and one school in USA, and may be NASA shar with us on it, to discuss about the our new project in Egypt it is called " ALGE, Hedorology study in our NILE RIVER, protected erea, birds. we hope if you have a time , please, share with us in this event, or try to suggesst to us some ideas to do it in our celebration.
The folks from Egypt have developed a great little poster illustrating the forms of micro-organisms that are related to various forms of water pollution. GLOBE should take a look at it.

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:51:10 ]
nots: please, if you want more information please, contact us at: ECDPT\.EMOE.ORG Mrs : Suzan Marzouk ( coordinator )

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:51:12 ]
RE: [sami/Khalifa/QA] To Becky: Regarding Salinaity, I do not think salinity is the same all around the gulf. May this is right is the east side like Qatar, Bahrain, but the west is something totaly different.
Sounds like the beginning of a beautiful project to me! I look forward to seeing what students find.

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:51:38 ]
I don't really know about the soil salinity..What do you scientists think? :)

[ ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB - 0 - 13:52:01 ]
The nitrogen comes from the sewage waste and the agricultural runnoff. We still use DDT here in Lebanon which is produced in the States.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:52:10 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Re: Larry: Oil tankers, the enitre gulf is is an oil-producing region, and a lot of it is done offshore...the ballast water emptied from oily tankers is another thing
This now becomes an international problem, and the group of GLOBE countries you have in the Middle East gives you a good forum for discussing the problem across international lines.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:52:13 ]
RE: [Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US] In Florida many groups and schools participate in the annual Coastal Cleanup. The group in Florida responsible for organizing it is Friends of Florida Fishermen, I think, but usually a conservation or environmental group in each state or country gets it going. Lots of trash is removed from the beaches in these events.
Hi Paul, I'm glad you could join us!

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 13:52:21 ]
Hi, Peggy - no snow here in Florida - Hi, Jessica - theme of the importance of the surface (water, soil, land cover) is so important to me as a meteorologist - the atmosphere exchanges with the surface are very important to scientists. The more observations we have about all surface measurements, such as hydrology, soil, and land cover, the better meteorologists can do their jobs at understanding energy and cycle changes with air. The GLOBE observations around the world are crucial for this - in some cases GLOBE schools are the only places for tens of kilometers around where any measurements are taken!

[ GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG - 0 - 13:52:45 ]
Thak you, see you in new event. Good bye

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:52:49 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] To Becky, yes the pH is never more that 8, we have tested that on different sites in Bahrain, but we use different equipment everytime, sometimes we use the pH pen and today we used the pH meter and the meter is more acurate!
Yes. IF you can, please use the meter. It lasts longer too.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:53:05 ]
RE: [ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB] The nitrogen comes from the sewage waste and the agricultural runnoff. We still use DDT here in Lebanon which is produced in the States.
Interesting. Do you mean that it is still manufactured in the US for shipment overseas?

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 13:53:14 ]
RE: [GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG] Thak you, see you in new event. Good bye
Thank you for joining us!

[ Maha/Hidd/BH - 0 - 13:53:15 ]
To Becky: well, i'll think of it seriously but do you remember when you visited Bahrain, Muharraq school and Shaikha from Hidd school told you about the hydrology measurements and you asked Dr. Waleed Zubari from Arabian Gulf University when you visited him with Mrs. Zakeya and he told you that the measurments were correct because of the desalination station there. So what did you do about it, you said you would talk to someone in order to try to make the measurments acceptable through the system?

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:54:10 ]
RE: [GhadaFathy/AbouBakrElSedeekExpLangschool/EG] we are in Egypet will make a celebration about the earth day on the second week in may.we will do in the same day video conference between Egypt and one school in USA, and may be NASA shar with us on it, to discuss about the our new project in Egypt it is called " ALGE, Hedorology study in our NILE RIVER, protected erea, birds. we hope if you have a time , please, share with us in this event, or try to suggesst to us some ideas to do it in our celebration.
This is wonderful! Are you monitoring bird migrations?

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 13:54:27 ]
In Florida we have an abundant source of fresh water in our aquifer, but many of our rivers flow from Georgia; Georgia and Florida have different rules about pollution of rivers, and this sometimes causes conflicts among states, even if the US has water pollution rules, too. It is so much more complicated for different nations, I'm sure!

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 13:54:52 ]
Re:Larry: The thing is, the countries economies are so dependant on oil production, NOBODY is willing to listen and do something about the "side effects"

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:55:15 ]
TO ALL: GLOBE PROGRAM IS VERY USFUL PROGRAM BECAUSE WE NOW KNOW MORE ABOUT OUR LOCAL ENVIROMANT AND HOW TO SAVE IT AND TREAT IT IN A GOOD WAY. AND WE HELP THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 13:55:37 ]
thanks larry for your enugrouing and we see you in bahrian . and how are you /

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 13:57:06 ]
RE: [Maha/Hidd/BH] To Becky: well, i'll think of it seriously but do you remember when you visited Bahrain, Muharraq school and Shaikha from Hidd school told you about the hydrology measurements and you asked Dr. Waleed Zubari from Arabian Gulf University when you visited him with Mrs. Zakeya and he told you that the measurments were correct because of the desalination station there. So what did you do about it, you said you would talk to someone in order to try to make the measurments acceptable through the system?
We are going to change the limits on the GLOBE data base so that higher values like the ones you are collecting can be accepted. We at GLOBE are learning from you as well about the environment around the world.

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 13:57:26 ]
To Jessica, well yes, we think that the salinity in the water can affect our soils a lot, there's a seepage of water into underground reservoir

[ ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB - 0 - 13:57:31 ]
Yup! DDT is still manufactured in the States, even though it is prohibited for use in the USA. They still make money off of shipping it for a cheap price to farmers in developing countries who don't have the financial backing to purchase more expensive pesticides. As a result, the whole country suffers from the land deposits of DDT as well as the contamination throughout the food chain.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:57:45 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Re:Larry: The thing is, the countries economies are so dependant on oil production, NOBODY is willing to listen and do something about the "side effects"
Politics rears its ugly head. We (GLOBE) must be careful here, because we do not want to be seen as telling any country how to handle its problems. But...YOU do not have to be quiet. You, and the thousands of other GLOBE students in your region are a powerful voice. Make your voice heard.

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 13:58:00 ]
To Mr. Larry when are we going tio recieve the images?

[ LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO - 0 - 13:58:01 ]
GODBYE EVERY ONE WE SHOULD LEAVE NOW>>>>BYE

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:58:32 ]
RE: [ReneeCodsi/AmericanCommunitySchoolBeirut/LB] Yup! DDT is still manufactured in the States, even though it is prohibited for use in the USA. They still make money off of shipping it for a cheap price to farmers in developing countries who don't have the financial backing to purchase more expensive pesticides. As a result, the whole country suffers from the land deposits of DDT as well as the contamination throughout the food chain.
Whoa! I did not know that. That is not good!

[ Jessica - 0 - 13:58:55 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] I don't really know about the soil salinity..What do you scientists think? :)
Well, all the countries on this web chat are in arid regions. The very high temperatures and low precipitation levels results in high evaporation levels (as one of the schools mentioned)and the salts get left in the soil. In regions like the Northeast USA (where I come from) we get a lot more precipitation so the salts move through the soil instead of remaining in the soil. Do you ever see salts at the surface of your soils?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 13:59:07 ]
RE: [LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO] GODBYE EVERY ONE WE SHOULD LEAVE NOW>>>>BYE
Thank you for being here. Keep up the good work!

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 13:59:20 ]
Sorry, Our server disconnected. (Fadi, Khalil and my server)

[ unknown - 0 - 13:59:38 ]
to Becky: Reacalling Hidd's school incedent about their wrong yet true data about Hydrology. I suggest that we should organize regional conferences between local scientists and GLOBE's scientists, to discuss our odd data which we collect by useing Hydrology, soil, landcove and Atmospher protocols. This conference could be online or by meeting any where, because our local scientists can assure the accuricy of our data, by comparing it with their data.

[ sami/Khalifa/QA - 0 - 13:59:53 ]
To Becky: Regarding Salinaity, I do not think salinity is the same all around the gulf. May this is right is the east side like Qatar, Bahrain, but the west is something totaly different.

[ salman/Abdullah/Bahrain - 0 - 14:00:16 ]
to Becky: Reacalling Hidd's school incedent about their wrong yet true data about Hydrology. I suggest that we should organize regional conferences between local scientists and GLOBE's scientists, to discuss our odd data which we collect by useing Hydrology, soil, landcove and Atmospher protocols. This conference could be online or by meeting any where, because our local scientists can assure the accuricy of our data, by comparing it with their data

[ salman/Abdullah/Bahrain - 0 - 14:00:23 ]
to Becky: Reacalling Hidd's school incedent about their wrong yet true data about Hydrology. I suggest that we should organize regional conferences between local scientists and GLOBE's scientists, to discuss our odd data which we collect by useing Hydrology, soil, landcove and Atmospher protocols. This conference could be online or by meeting any where, because our local scientists can assure the accuricy of our data, by comparing it with their data

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:00:37 ]
RE: [muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown] thanks larry for your enugrouing and we see you in bahrian . and how are you /
Hi. Where is your school located?

[ unknown - 0 - 14:00:47 ]
Beckky he will connect to the chat room sometime in the futur/ next year maybe

[ unknown - 0 - 14:00:51 ]
Beckky he will connect to the chat room sometime in the futur/ next year maybe

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:00:57 ]
Dr.Rebbeca, where are you?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:01:16 ]
RE: [sami/Khalifa/QA] To Becky: Regarding Salinaity, I do not think salinity is the same all around the gulf. May this is right is the east side like Qatar, Bahrain, but the west is something totaly different.
This is a perfect opportunity for the students of the Gulf region to gather the data for a study. You can show the scientific community how these data vary, and contribute to understanding of your region. If you do not gather the data, who will?

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 14:02:06 ]
The comments about industry and pollution are very interesting. When our livelihood depends on an industry, we have to consider that factor. In the GLOBE ONE experiment in Iowa, farmers grow maize and soybeans. In so doing, they modify the environment significantly, but they could not grow the crops without modifying the environment. However, most of the farmers are very interested in keeping the impact on the environment as small as possible while still growing the crops.

[ sami/Khalifa/QA - 0 - 14:02:13 ]
To Becky: Regarding Salinaity, I do not think salinity is the same all around the gulf. May this is right is the east side like Qatar, Bahrain, but the west is something totaly different.

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebschool/BH - 0 - 14:02:20 ]
To Larry: In globe we identify the hight of the clouds by observing them..the Metrology center uses the spot light in identifying the hight of clouds at night...can we use this method???or do you have another way???

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 14:02:28 ]
we havent enough kites in globe .and why you didnt make globe programe in high school ?

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:02:54 ]
When are we recieving the settelite images? (Larry)

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:03:08 ]
RE: [sami/Khalifa/QA] To Becky: Regarding Salinaity, I do not think salinity is the same all around the gulf. May this is right is the east side like Qatar, Bahrain, but the west is something totaly different.
Well, you have the beginning of a hypothesis. Let's see if this is true. What can you do to test this?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:03:44 ]
RE: [EmanYousif/Yathrebschool/BH] To Larry: In globe we identify the hight of the clouds by observing them..the Metrology center uses the spot light in identifying the hight of clouds at night...can we use this method???or do you have another way???
I will pass this question to Paul. Not being a meteorolgist, I am not sure what other measures will yield accurate results without significant expense. Paul?

[ Jessica - 0 - 14:04:22 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] To Jessica, well yes, we think that the salinity in the water can affect our soils a lot, there's a seepage of water into underground reservoir
But what about conditions of the soil - do you have limestone parent material? Limestone is predominately calcium, which is a salt - that could affect the salinity of your soils, especially if you don't get a lot of precipitation. Have you ever seen a hard white pan in your soils - that's a result of calcium carbonates. I've seen these white pans in soils in Arizona (USA), which is also an arid environment.

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 14:04:24 ]
RE: [LAITH/M3N/SAFWAN/RADWAN/IRBIDPIONEERCENTRE/JO] GODBYE EVERY ONE WE SHOULD LEAVE NOW>>>>BYE
Thank you for joining us!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:04:25 ]
RE: [salman/Abdullah/Bahrain] to Becky: Reacalling Hidd's school incedent about their wrong yet true data about Hydrology. I suggest that we should organize regional conferences between local scientists and GLOBE's scientists, to discuss our odd data which we collect by useing Hydrology, soil, landcove and Atmospher protocols. This conference could be online or by meeting any where, because our local scientists can assure the accuricy of our data, by comparing it with their data
This is an excellent idea! I'm sitting in the room with the GLOBE Chief Scientist and we will talk about this.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:04:57 ]
RE: [muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown] we havent enough kites in globe .and why you didnt make globe programe in high school ?
GLOBE is a program for students in all grades. If it is not in high schools in your country, there may be several reasons. Your country coordinator can provide you with more information.

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:05:32 ]
How are you all?

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:05:34 ]
I mean by tools, you should make a place where you could IM (Instant message) So you could talk with people not in pubic. Also you should put a username and password, like a forum. Cheak out www.invisionfree.com to see what I mean. You should put a reply button and categories. If you do that we would use this web chat more often. You should add it to shortdomains too like .com or .vze.com or .net or .gov etc...

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:05:41 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Dr.Rebbeca, where are you?
I am in Boulder, Colorado in the United States. It is a dry climate here, but today we are getting rain and snow. We have been having a drought for at least 3 years so the rain is very good to have.

[ salman/Abdullah/Bahrain - 0 - 14:05:47 ]
To Becky: Thnak you VERY MUCH this will hep us alot, and it was a pleasure to meet you in Bahrain

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:05:59 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] When are we recieving the settelite images? (Larry)
Fadi: Which images? The ones we just talked about? Sausan should contact Dr. Teresa Kennedy, our international director.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:06:10 ]
RE: [unknown] Beckky he will connect to the chat room sometime in the futur/ next year maybe
Who do you mean?

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebschool/BH - 0 - 14:06:15 ]
Thank you anyway!!(Larry)

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 14:06:53 ]
hi becky . we are in aqaba/jordan .

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:07:05 ]
Re: Becky: Well, we'd have to say, pick certain days and measure the salinity on our coasts for about two months...that would give us an idea of how it differs...but i don't think we have any GLOBE schools in Iran, do we? Coz the entire eastern shore belongs to Iran

[ khalilhamarnehJORDAN - 0 - 14:07:31 ]
Dr.Jessica YOU didnt anwer my qoustions!!!!!!!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:07:52 ]
All of you are discussing such wonderful topics and asking great questions! It looks like in this region there are many similar problems. I know that some of you have already been working together and I hope this will continue.

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 14:09:09 ]
Re cloud base. This is a good question. If you shine a light on the cloud base, you can tell how high it is. If the light shines vertically, and you are 1 km away from the light, the following is true: You look up at a 45 degree angle to see the light on the cloud base -- that means the cloud base is 1 km high. If you look less than 45 degrees (more horizontally), the cloud base is less than 1 km. -- the angle plus the distance gives you cloud base. (a similar technique is used to measure treetop height in GLOBE).

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:09:10 ]
We need our school's images of 1990(Amman Baccalaureate School) (Larry)

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:09:20 ]
When I was in Bahrain and Jordan last year, I was so impressed with the regional cooperation you are showing. I sincerely hope that you continue this work, as you are an excellent example to the rest of the GLOBE community.

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 14:09:30 ]
so, are the white pans considered as CaCo3? well, we have a lot of CaCo3 in our soils, which probably explains that our soils have a high persentage of calcium

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:09:52 ]
I mean by tools, you should make a place where you could IM (Instant message) So you could talk with people not in pubic. Also you should put a username and password, like a forum. Cheak out www.invisionfree.com to see what I mean. You should put a reply button and categories. If you do that we would use this web chat more often. You should add it to shortdomains too like .com or .vze.com or .net or .gov etc... answer Dr.Rebbeca please.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:09:59 ]
RE: [muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown] we havent enough kites in globe .and why you didnt make globe programe in high school ?
WElcome. Where are you located? Are you taking any GLOBE measurements?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:10:13 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] We need our school's images of 1990(Amman Baccalaureate School) (Larry)
OK...I will work on this through the GLOBE system and let you know how things are going.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:10:52 ]
RE: [khalilhamarnehJORDAN] Dr.Jessica YOU didnt anwer my qoustions!!!!!!!
I'm sorry - I just had some difficulties with my web browser and last the web chat for a few minutes. What was your question again?

[ Maha/Hidd/BH - 0 - 14:11:20 ]
To Larry: Judging by the fact that we face problems with the MUC Guide, I'd like to suggest that the GLOBE scientists create an appropriate MUC guide for the Gulf region so that we use it easily.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:11:27 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] I mean by tools, you should make a place where you could IM (Instant message) So you could talk with people not in pubic. Also you should put a username and password, like a forum. Cheak out www.invisionfree.com to see what I mean. You should put a reply button and categories. If you do that we would use this web chat more often. You should add it to shortdomains too like .com or .vze.com or .net or .gov etc...
I'll pass this on to the computer people here. I think they want to revise this web chat tool

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:12:50 ]
Re: larry: Zakeya is next to me, Larry, and she's pretty happy with your compliments :) She is preparing something with local scientits' supervision....she'll inform the other country coordinators about participaton...she also wants to start working on a GIS project..she'll send details

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:12:56 ]
Dr.Rebbeca, Please tell them to cheak www.invisionfree.com

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:13:00 ]
RE: [Larry/GLOBE] OK...I will work on this through the GLOBE system and let you know how things are going.
We will look into this and get back to you soon.

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 14:14:20 ]
hi larry why doesnt you visit us in jordan special in aqaba and all the scintest in GLOBE ?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:14:20 ]
RE: [Maha/Hidd/BH] To Larry: Judging by the fact that we face problems with the MUC Guide, I'd like to suggest that the GLOBE scientists create an appropriate MUC guide for the Gulf region so that we use it easily.
First, what do you mean by "problems" with the MUC guide? I will confess that it was produced by people who work in the Northeast U.S., but it should have most of the land covers you might find. If you have suggestions for other land covers, I'm sure the team (especially Dr. Becky who did most of the work) will be glad to look at them.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:14:41 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Re: Becky: Well, we'd have to say, pick certain days and measure the salinity on our coasts for about two months...that would give us an idea of how it differs...but i don't think we have any GLOBE schools in Iran, do we? Coz the entire eastern shore belongs to Iran
Unfortunately, Iran is not a GLOBE country. But - you can work with schools in Iran and remember all GLOBE materials on the web site are available to ANYONE.

[ salman/Abdullah/Bahrain - 0 - 14:14:53 ]
To Larry: We would like if you just make some adjesments to the teacher's guide and the MUC guide which will help us alot, because the recent one is suitable only for U.S.A and Europe countries, and it is not suitable for the middle east contries, especially gulf countries., so according to your visit to Bahrain do you think that you can add more classification that siuts not only bahrain, but all of the gulf countries.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:15:50 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] so, are the white pans considered as CaCo3? well, we have a lot of CaCo3 in our soils, which probably explains that our soils have a high persentage of calcium
Yes, they are. In humid environments CaCo3 moves through the soil and doesn't collect in hard pans like they do in arid environments. What is the pH of your soil?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:15:58 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Re: larry: Zakeya is next to me, Larry, and she's pretty happy with your compliments :) She is preparing something with local scientits' supervision....she'll inform the other country coordinators about participaton...she also wants to start working on a GIS project..she'll send details
Hi Zakeya. It has been delightful talking to all of you. I will give you any support I can in implementing GIS; it's what I have been working on recently.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:16:08 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Dr.Rebbeca, Please tell them to cheak www.invisionfree.com
Will do.

[ BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO - 0 - 14:16:34 ]
Hi every body

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:17:26 ]
Hi Basem. You are in our school. Where are you at the moment?

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:17:30 ]
We will be waiting for the school images. Thankyou (Larry)

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:17:57 ]
RE: [salman/Abdullah/Bahrain] To Larry: We would like if you just make some adjesments to the teacher's guide and the MUC guide which will help us alot, because the recent one is suitable only for U.S.A and Europe countries, and it is not suitable for the middle east contries, especially gulf countries., so according to your visit to Bahrain do you think that you can add more classification that siuts not only bahrain, but all of the gulf countries.
What would be helpful is for you to tell us what kinds of land cover you find that are not included in the current guide. When i was in Bahrain, we did not have too much trouble classifying the areas we were in. So, send us some information about what you need, as you are the experts.

[ AhmedandYousuf/ShKhalifaInstituteforTecnology/BH - 0 - 14:17:59 ]
To larry: mrs.Zakeya says thank you.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:18:23 ]
RE: [BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO] Hi every body
Have you just joined the chat? What types of GLOBE measurements are you taking?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:18:31 ]
RE: [BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO] Hi every body
Basem: Hello, old friend. How are you?

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 14:18:56 ]
To Jessica: it's usually around 8, so that explains that there is a lot of Caco3 in our soils!! but how is it at your place? is it very diferent?

[ BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO - 0 - 14:19:26 ]
arab collegues what is your suggestion for the next project

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:19:26 ]
HI, Mr.Bassem abdle rahman

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:19:44 ]
RE: [AhmedandYousuf/ShKhalifaInstituteforTecnology/BH] To larry: mrs.Zakeya says thank you.
Hi Zakeya! Everyone here in the office is enjoying the candy and sweets from Bahrain and Qatar.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:19:45 ]
RE: [BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO] Hi every body
Hi Basem - How are you? I want to apologize for the difficulty we had with our email correspondence. I had a lot of difficulty sending emails to you, but I recently changed my email to jrobin@ltpmail.gsfc.nasa.gov Please try this email. We are currently getting the Basic GAPS software copyrighted and once that is complete I will send you a copy of it. Jessica

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 14:20:34 ]
yes becky . we worked on GLOBE protocoles like land cover ,soil , atmospheer , hydrolog and we optained in GLOBE conferces in bahrian .

[ khalilhamarnehJORDAN - 0 - 14:20:34 ]
Sorry every body i have to go see ya

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:20:49 ]
LOL! Mr.Basem is my teacher!!!

[ BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO - 0 - 14:21:23 ]
larry am fine and you thanks

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:21:48 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] LOL! Mr.Basem is my teacher!!!
You have a great and dedicated teacher!

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:21:49 ]
Re : Becky: from Zakeya: Did Jack try the sweets? If I come in the summer, I'll bring more :)

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 14:21:59 ]
RE: [khalilhamarnehJORDAN] Sorry every body i have to go see ya
Thanks for joining us!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:24:03 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Re : Becky: from Zakeya: Did Jack try the sweets? If I come in the summer, I'll bring more :)
I haven't seen him since my return, so I don't think so - I still have many, so I will make sure that he gets some. I'm sure that there will be requests for sweets this summer - and perfume!

[ BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO - 0 - 14:24:23 ]
jessica I will write you an e-mail to begin the GAPS project vhere

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:24:54 ]
Scientists: Why do YOU suppos we are having so much "unusual" rain? And "cold" weather?

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:25:19 ]
Hi, at night - you can use spotlights or searchlights to measure cloud height - this is an old method used before lasers. You shoot the light up at an angle and measure a reflection using mirrors. It can be complicated but could be made simpler, I suppose. Some trigometry and geometry are needed, too! Math is important for scientific measurements, after all!

[ SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH - 0 - 14:25:35 ]
ok everyone, Fatima and I are leaving now, thank you very much for giving us the chance to talk to you and ask some questions!! goodbye!! and special thanks to Jessica for discussing our soil salinity

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 14:25:56 ]
larry , peggy , becky why you didnt sent to us?

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:26:11 ]
RE: [BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO] arab collegues what is your suggestion for the next project
There have lots of discussion about increasing salts in the sea and groundwater, how the climate may be changing, pollution in beaches and other things. Maybe there could be one or more regional projects. What would you like to study?

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:26:28 ]
Someone asked earlier about soil salinity - in some of our tidal marsh areas in Florida some teachers have found some strange readings for other measurements (like pH) but we have not tried to measure salinity - interesting idea!

[ BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO - 0 - 14:26:32 ]
jessica please send it to me as soon as it is available thanks

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:26:33 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] ok everyone, Fatima and I are leaving now, thank you very much for giving us the chance to talk to you and ask some questions!! goodbye!! and special thanks to Jessica for discussing our soil salinity
Great chatting to you!

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:26:40 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] ok everyone, Fatima and I are leaving now, thank you very much for giving us the chance to talk to you and ask some questions!! goodbye!! and special thanks to Jessica for discussing our soil salinity
Be well, all, and my best wishes for success.

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:26:58 ]
Becky: From Zakeya: Send them requests rollin' in!

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:27:45 ]
RE: [SarahandFatima/HamadTown/MuharraqSecondarySchool/BH] To Jessica: it's usually around 8, so that explains that there is a lot of Caco3 in our soils!! but how is it at your place? is it very diferent?
Hi Sarah and Fatima, A pH of 8 is what we called an alkaline soil. When you get soil with pHs between 8 and 9 then the soils are considered saline and above 9 they are sodic. Saline and sodic soils have high pHs due to sodium not calcium. You can grow crops in alkaline soils, but it is very difficult to grow crops in saline and sodic soils. These soils have very little structure because the sodium disperses the soil particles. That is why I was curious about pH. The soils around don't have as high pHs because we get a lot precipitation. And the salts we do have are calcium and calcium is very soluble in water so we don't get those pans.

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebschool/BH - 0 - 14:28:13 ]
Dear Larry,you know a lot about about the projects in the Middle East, we really would like to work with one of the schools in the U.S so we can compare the results of your projects with our results and with other countries..the projects can be in any of the GLOBE protocols,so what do you think of the idea???

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:28:16 ]
I'm not very familiar with the weather and climate of the middle east overall, but weather patterns can be global in nature, or very local (or everything in between). Scientists learn about these patterns by studying observations from all locations on the GLOBE. This is where GLOBE can be helpful, by helping to provide consistent and reliable and comprehensive observations.

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:28:17 ]
(larry) Where are you and What are you doing?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:28:24 ]
RE: [Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US] Someone asked earlier about soil salinity - in some of our tidal marsh areas in Florida some teachers have found some strange readings for other measurements (like pH) but we have not tried to measure salinity - interesting idea!
In my area, estuaries and tidal flats are important breeding grounds for aquatic species, yet very few measurements of the cycling of salinty have been carried out. Here is where GLOBE students can make real and important contricutions to the body of scientific knowledge.

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:28:30 ]
:) :) :) :) :):) FADI SAYS TODAY IS A SUNNY DAY AND THE TEMPRETURE IS 27 Celcuis Degree. :)

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:29:01 ]
RE: [BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO] jessica please send it to me as soon as it is available thanks
I will!

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:29:07 ]
Today is a sunny day and the tempreture is 27 Celcuis Degree in Amman today.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:30:05 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] (larry) Where are you and What are you doing?
Fadi: I now work out of my home as an educational consultant, so I am sitting comfortably at my desk with my coffee watching the fog which is typical of April in Maine. I do most of my work now in the area of GIS and schools, but still do a few workshops. I am off to the state of Vermont next week to work with teachers and students, then to New York City to work at Queens college.

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 14:30:11 ]
the weather in aqaba is nearly hot .how the wether in u.s.a

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:30:25 ]
RE: [Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US] I'm not very familiar with the weather and climate of the middle east overall, but weather patterns can be global in nature, or very local (or everything in between). Scientists learn about these patterns by studying observations from all locations on the GLOBE. This is where GLOBE can be helpful, by helping to provide consistent and reliable and comprehensive observations.
Paul - Do you think schools in Florida and the Caribbean region would like to work with school in the Middle East?

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:30:36 ]
(Larry) I'm a group leader for the Land cover.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:30:48 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Today is a sunny day and the tempreture is 27 Celcuis Degree in Amman today.
That sounds nice!

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:30:50 ]
Hows the tempreture in North Carolnia today dr.rebbeca?

[ khalilhamarnehJORDAN - 0 - 14:30:59 ]
Dr.Jessica i aam the group leader for soil what tips do would you give to teach some of my colleges obout GAPS

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:31:22 ]
Hi is anyone from Muharraq Secondary School still on this web chat? Can you make sure that Sarah and Fatima get my last message (14:27:45 ). Thank you!

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:31:32 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] (Larry) I'm a group leader for the Land cover.
Excellent: Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you. Be well.

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:31:42 ]
It is clear in Tallahassee, Florida, with a temperature of 21 C, and a dew point of 13.5 C (local time is 10 AM for that observation here). We will reach 29.5 C or so today.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:32:47 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] Hows the tempreture in North Carolnia today dr.rebbeca?
I'm not sure. Paul may have a better idea since he is closer to North Carolina. I'm far away near the Rocky Mountains in Colorado and it is cold today. We may have snow!

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:32:52 ]
Re: Jessica: They got your message! Thanks!

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:33:07 ]
Hi, Becky! - it would be wonderful to form a regional collaboration between the Caribbean Basin nations and the Middle East - although the climates of the regions are quite different, we are all interested in our environment and many other similar aspects, too! I'll bring that up in the chat this afternoon if no one else does!

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:33:24 ]
(Larry) I was born in New York

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:34:01 ]
RE: [Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US] It is clear in Tallahassee, Florida, with a temperature of 21 C, and a dew point of 13.5 C (local time is 10 AM for that observation here). We will reach 29.5 C or so today.
The temperature in Maine (about 1700 km north of Florida) is 11 C, with high relative humidity, clouds, fog and drizzle. Typical.

[ sami/Khalifa/QA - 0 - 14:34:10 ]
To Becky: Regarding Salinaity, I do not think salinity is the same all around the gulf. May this is right is the east side like Qatar, Bahrain, but the west is something totaly different.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:34:28 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] (Larry) I was born in New York
Cool...New York City?

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:34:35 ]
Are there many tidal flats in the Arabian Gulf and Eastern Mediterranean?

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:34:50 ]
There are more clouds in North Carolina today - broken clouds with a temperature of 20.0 C and dewpoint of 11.0 C. Snow in Colorado in April! Wow!

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:35:36 ]
Larry - I will envy your weather in August!

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 14:35:59 ]
where is GLOBE conferces will be ? what the subject will we talk about it ?

[ salman/Abdullah/Bahrain - 0 - 14:36:14 ]
to becky: All bahraini students supports what Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US said about organizing a regional collaboration between the Caribbean Basin nations and the Middle East

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:36:21 ]
Fadi - I was born in New York, too, Mt. Vernon, just north of New York City.

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:36:24 ]
Becky: yes, we have tidal flats, but not a lot of them...we get a lot of migrating birds there

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:36:26 ]
dr rebbeca is summer! How can snow come? Then whats the temp. in colorado?

[ Maha/Isa/Hidd/BH - 0 - 14:36:30 ]

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:36:42 ]
RE: [sami/Khalifa/QA] To Becky: Regarding Salinaity, I do not think salinity is the same all around the gulf. May this is right is the east side like Qatar, Bahrain, but the west is something totaly different.
If I remember correctly, we measured around 43 ppt at the workshop. Do you have many desalination plants in Qatar? I remember hearing on the news that they may be building desalination plants along the coast of California. There are concerns about how it may affect the sea environment.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:36:55 ]
RE: [Becky/GLOBE] Are there many tidal flats in the Arabian Gulf and Eastern Mediterranean?
It would be interesting for students to compare life forms from the tidal flats of the Gulf area with those of northern US waters. How do temperature, salinity and other local factors influence species?

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:37:10 ]
Hello, Salman & Abdullah and all in Bahrain - Becky - you have a winner of an idea I think!

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:37:20 ]
RE: [khalilhamarnehJORDAN] Dr.Jessica i aam the group leader for soil what tips do would you give to teach some of my colleges obout GAPS
Hello Khalilhamarneh, The reason why we developed Basic GAPS for students was to provide them with a tool for studying the interplay between the different components (soils, atmopshere, land cover, hydrology, phenology) of the Earth System. We talk a lot about Earth as a system, but it can be a difficult concept to teach. With Basic GAPS a student can see how one component affects the other. For example one type of soil texture will hold more water than another and this in turn will affect drainage, runoff, and soil water content.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:38:24 ]
RE: [Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US] Fadi - I was born in New York, too, Mt. Vernon, just north of New York City.
I'm from NY too. I grew up near Mt. Vernon in Chappaqua.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:39:08 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] dr rebbeca is summer! How can snow come? Then whats the temp. in colorado?
For many years, I lived in the Adirondack mountains of New York state, in the NE US at an elevation of about 500 m. We could have snow as late as early MAY! We once had a blizzard in the first week of may. There are so many variables that influence weather and climate. We are all familiar with our own reagion, so that the weather in other places sometimes seems strange. GLOBE is a good way to explore this.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:39:11 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Becky: yes, we have tidal flats, but not a lot of them...we get a lot of migrating birds there
Are these protected with all the coastal development in Bahrain?

[ salman/Abdullah/Bahrain - 0 - 14:39:13 ]
we "all bahraini students" thank Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US for his compliment

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:39:14 ]
Is anyone there from the Jordan training in 2001 - remember when we tried to measure the salinity of the Dead Sea?

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:40:03 ]
RE: [Jessica/GLOBE] I'm from NY too. I grew up near Mt. Vernon in Chappaqua.
What a small world!

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:40:11 ]
Good boy Paul. Everybody give him a big hand.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:40:12 ]
RE: [Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US] Is anyone there from the Jordan training in 2001 - remember when we tried to measure the salinity of the Dead Sea?
I remember visiting the Dead Sea when I was a child and you could float!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:40:42 ]
RE: [Larry/GLOBE] For many years, I lived in the Adirondack mountains of New York state, in the NE US at an elevation of about 500 m. We could have snow as late as early MAY! We once had a blizzard in the first week of may. There are so many variables that influence weather and climate. We are all familiar with our own reagion, so that the weather in other places sometimes seems strange. GLOBE is a good way to explore this.
The world is small. I was born in a very small town in the Adirondack Mountains. Larry lived near there for many years. Not many people know Lowville, New York

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:41:16 ]
It is such a small world - all of us transplanted New Yorkers! On the collaboration - the comparison of tidal flats and migrating birds and perhaps discussions of fisheries or other species would be interesting, indeed - lots of commonalities there!

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 14:41:28 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Scientists: Why do YOU suppos we are having so much "unusual" rain? And "cold" weather?
Hi! I just went into the other room to look at the global weather map. There is an upper-level trough to the west of you. This means that the air about 5.5 km above you is flowing from the southwest to the northeast, and probably rising. Rising air is associated with rainfall. This is more of a description than an explanation! The "troughs" are "low pressure areas". Air flows into low-pressure areas because air flows from high to low pressure. Thus air in the low pressure areas tends to go upward. Why is there a trough there? The troughs tend to move, but we know that the positions of larger, slow-moving to stationary troughs are tied to global surface temperature patterns -- for example, the weather in the U.S.A. is strongly influenced by the changes associated with El Nino. The troughs over Europe and the Middle East are also, but to a lesser degree. We are learning that the temperature distribution in the Atlantic Ocean can affect the positions of troughs as well, and hence influence rainfall.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:41:33 ]
RE: [Jessica/GLOBE] I remember visiting the Dead Sea when I was a child and you could float!
Me too! I put mud all over me and went into the water.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:41:56 ]
RE: [Becky/GLOBE] The world is small. I was born in a very small town in the Adirondack Mountains. Larry lived near there for many years. Not many people know Lowville, New York
I've been to Lowville (even if I can's pronounce it correctly).

[ muna/dana/nooralhussinfoundation/Unknown - 0 - 14:41:57 ]
good bey for all and if there any one wanted to talk with us send a massege now because we will gooooooooooooooooo

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:42:42 ]
When I went to the dead sea, i was floating on the shore! I go there every year.

[ Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US - 0 - 14:42:49 ]
I have to leave to get prepared for the afternoon Caribbean chat...good luck and perhaps we will "meet" again soon!

[ BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO - 0 - 14:43:01 ]
we would like to study land cover cahange ,GAPS

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:43:33 ]
RE: [salman/Abdullah/Bahrain] to becky: All bahraini students supports what Paul/FloridaStateUniversity/US said about organizing a regional collaboration between the Caribbean Basin nations and the Middle East
Fantastic! I will try to help make this happen in any way that I can.

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:43:52 ]
Re: Becky: No, i don't think any of the coast is being protoected...we're having serious problems with all the reclamation...its basically a question of awarness...nobody is about to sacrifice a money-producing project for some birds :(

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:44:24 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] When I went to the dead sea, i was floating on the shore! I go there every year.
My brother didn't pay attention to what they told us and he dove right in - you can imagine what that did to his eyes!

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 14:44:58 ]
RE: [NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO] dr rebbeca is summer! How can snow come? Then whats the temp. in colorado?
Larry is right. The elevation here in Boulder, Colorado, is over 1760 m above sea level. The weather we have today is actually not too unusual. It occurs when we get east winds. This air, moving from east to west, is forced to rise with the terrain. This cools the air, the water in the air condenses, and we get rain. When it is cool enough (and it can be, at 1760 meters), we can get snow. We actually have had snow in June. I think July is the only month that we don't get snow.

[ khalilhamarnehJORDAN - 0 - 14:45:04 ]
Keefak abder al-rahman

[ NayefCopty/AmmanBaccalauriateSchool/JO - 0 - 14:45:21 ]
Listen, I gota go. Cya later everybody ;) I need to go home, I just came back from school :) Bye.

[ Larry/GLOBE - 0 - 14:45:25 ]
to All: I, too, must leave. Like Paul, I have another web chat later today and must get some other work done. It has been delightful talking with all of you, some old friends and now some new ones. I wish all of you the very best, and hope to be in contact with all of you again. Larry

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:45:38 ]
RE: [BasemAbdelrahman/AmmanBaccalaureateschool/JO] we would like to study land cover cahange ,GAPS
I think that's a great idea - you can study land cover changes with GAPS!

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:46:12 ]
I have to leave know. My aunt is on the way . Bye, see you soon.

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:46:42 ]
Re: Peggy: Thanks! But is this trough a new thing? Is it going to stay? It'd be welcome!!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:46:48 ]
RE: [MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH] Re: Becky: No, i don't think any of the coast is being protoected...we're having serious problems with all the reclamation...its basically a question of awarness...nobody is about to sacrifice a money-producing project for some birds :(
How can you help to change this attitude?

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:46:59 ]
Bye all, see you soon

[ salman/Abdullah/Bahrain - 0 - 14:47:11 ]
i got to leave now. it was nice chatting with you. see you soon in any globe's work shop or conference or even in web chat. THNK YOU VERY MUCH

[ Maha/Hidd/BH - 0 - 14:47:19 ]
Well I have to leave. Thank you for this useful chat and hope to see you.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:47:23 ]
RE: [Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO] I have to leave know. My aunt is on the way . Bye, see you soon.
Good bye and thank you for participating in the web chat!

[ EmanYousif/Yathrebschool/BH - 0 - 14:47:29 ]
Goodbye everyone and happy earth day again...we really had fun..and we hope to see you soon

[ salman/Abdullah/Bahrain - 0 - 14:47:41 ]
bye bye

[ Peggy/GLOBE - 0 - 14:48:05 ]
Hi all. I am signing off now to go to another meeting, at an elevation about 300 m higher than we are. I am curious as to whether there is snow on the ground! I enjoyed "chatting" with you. :)

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:48:29 ]
RE: [EmanYousif/Yathrebschool/BH] Goodbye everyone and happy earth day again...we really had fun..and we hope to see you soon
So did we!

[ MayandAhmed/KhawlaGSSchool/BH - 0 - 14:48:31 ]
Ok,thanks everybody, but i need to leave now...looking forward to seeing you in the summer, Larry :D

[ Fadi/AmmanBaccalauriateschool/JO - 0 - 14:48:54 ]
Thanx all

[ khalilhamarnehJORDAN - 0 - 14:49:30 ]
Dr.jessica nayef asks you if he got blind?

[ khalilhamarnehJORDAN - 0 - 14:49:30 ]
Dr.jessica nayef asks you if he got blind?

[ AhmedandYousuf/ShKhalifaInstituteforTecnology/BH - 0 - 14:50:02 ]
thank you all we had a good time talking to you. i hope we can talk to you soon. Happy Earth Day.

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:50:27 ]
We have about 5 minutes left on the chat. It has been wonderful talking with everyone! I think we have some great ideas for regional collaborations.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:50:42 ]
RE: [khalilhamarnehJORDAN] Dr.jessica nayef asks you if he got blind?
No he didn't but his eyes did hurt for the rest of that day. We laugh about it now but at the time it wasn't funny.

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:51:35 ]
RE: [Becky/GLOBE] We have about 5 minutes left on the chat. It has been wonderful talking with everyone! I think we have some great ideas for regional collaborations.
I agree! And please do submit pictures of your soil profiles on the GLOBE site. I would love to see them!

[ Jessica/GLOBE - 0 - 14:52:34 ]
Well, I'm going to sign off now. Great talking to all of you!

[ Becky/GLOBE - 0 - 14:53:47 ]
It has been wonderful chatting with all of you! This chat will be archived on the GLOBE web site. Good bye to all of you.