The good war?

Tue, 01/06/2009 - 2:16pm

Two things that need to be said about this. The Afghan war isn't either. That is:

  • It isn't a good war
  • It isn't an Afghan war

What do I mean by that? First, I find the "good war" term offensive. I find it hard to use that word to describe anything that maims and kills innocent men, women and children. All wars have an element of evil in them. That said, this one was better than most. I thought that invading Afghanistan in late 2001 was the right thing to do, and I still do.

But I wonder what the hell we've been doing since then. The conflict in Afghanistan has kind of unfairly had the reputation of "the little war that could," in comparison to the fiasco in Iraq, seen as doing more with less. Yet the record doesn't support that. An Army War College review concluded that Gen. Tommy R. Franks' command of the initial invasion was sloppy, as was his handling of the battle of Tora Bora, from which Osama bin Laden apparently escaped.

The next big battle of the war, the "Anaconda" fight in the spring of 2002, was a haywire operation, with Special Operators deeply unhappy with their handling by conventional commanders, and the conventional guys wondering why Franks wouldn't allow them to bring artillery into the theater. (He and Rumsfeld wanted a light footprint, apparently confusing combat with ballet.) Then, in the fall of 2002, many Special Operations units were pulled out of the country in order to prepare for the invasion of Iraq, a move to which historians likely will point as a dangerous turning point in the Afghan war. Finally, the allied command structure in Afghanistan has been screwy from the start, provoking real angst with the British military, among others.

Second, this isn't really about Afghanistan. It is about Pakistan-and might in the coming weeks morph into being about the entire South Asian subcontinent. The United States could "lose" Afghanistan and not suffer greatly. But "losing" Pakistan is a far more worrisome proposition, because Pakistan has both nuclear weapons and Islamic extremists. There aren't a lot of things in the world that worry me more than that combination. And our war in Pakistan has been heating up considerably in recent months, with our Predator drone aircraft regularly whacking their leaders and their guys routinely torching our trucks and threatening our major supply line--each side playing to its own strength. The Khyber Pass road actually was reported closed last week.

Nor will we make much progress in Afghanistan, the secondary problem, until we make some progress in Pakistan, the primary and more difficult problem. This means we should be careful of any "solutions" offered to the war that don't deal with Pakistan. An Afghan-only solution is no solution at all.

So, should we call this the Afghan-Pakistani war? Or the Subcontinental War? Either would be more accurate, and that is always helpful in thinking about how to wage war.

What should we do? I dunno, but it is going to be interesting to watch General Petraeus, the new chief of Central Command, in the coming months. I suspect he will try to follow the spirit but not the letter of his approach in Iraq over the last couple of years. That is, rather than force enemies together, he will try to disaggregate them. He will do the sensible thing and follow Andrew Krepinevich's law of the conservation of enemies: Don't make any more than you need to have at any given time. In Afghanistan (where I lived from 1969 to 1971, and then visited in 1977, 2002, and 2004), the most likely approach would be to favor tribes over Islamic extremists, even while peeling off the less extreme extremists.

Of course, that great military thinker Rudyard Kipling laid out this strategy pretty precisely in his ironically titled short story "The Head of the District." And yes, decapitation of one's enemies is nothing new on Afghanistan's plains, where the women would come out to cut up what remains.

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It is true that no war is

It is true that no war is good because young men and women on both sides die,however sometimes a war is necessary in order to defeat a foe that wishes you nothing except death.Some enemies[ mainly religious ones] can not be "talked" out of wanting to destroy your culture.To these a war is necesary.

Tom, thanks for being the

Tom, thanks for being the first to say it. This thing has been going on for 7 years and there doesn't seem to be a mission or a plan at all. There's no progress in building a government, and any gains that might have been made early on have been lost years ago. It's been a feckless waste with no end in sight.

The war in Afghanistan is

The war in Afghanistan is ugly. My opinion is that even though it is not going very well, we need to stay in and build a solid infrastructure to prevent the general population from going into Chaos. This could also lead to a power vacuum. This happened with the Taliban after the Soviets retreated from Afghanistan. From my knowledge, the US didn't fund Afghanistan with building an infrastructure, which lead to problems.

With Pakistan, it's very tense. That country, I think, houses many insurgents and enemies that would fight the US. Therefore, the US needs to pray that anti terrorist government stays in place but, we are better allies with India, who aren't in the best relations with Pakistan.

Hopefully Petraus is able to find a weakness in the enemy.

good post

This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 1/7/2009, at The Unreligious Right

He will do the sensible thing

He will do the sensible thing and follow Andrew Krepinevich's law of the conservation of enemies: Don't make any more than you need to have at any given time. In Afghanistan (where I lived from 1969 to 1971, and then visited in 1977, 2002, and 2004), the most likely approach would be to favor tribes over Islamic extremists, even while peeling off the less extreme extremists.

Why are we there, anyway? Our primary reason to invade afghanistan was because of 9/11, which was a PR stunt gone wrong. Taliban agreed that 9/11 was wrong but they wanted proof that Bin Ladin was responsible before they would agree to turn him over to us, and we wouldn't give the evidence, and so we invaded.

And then somehow we decided that all islamists were Bin Ladin and we had to defeat them all militarily.

So, suppose we decided that islamists are OK provided they run for office and win. And suppose we classified the occasional violence that afghans do to each other as banditry and not as Taliban. How would that change our mission?

afghan strategy

What should be done immediately is triplestrength the PRTs, and give them range patrols, so that they can do night-bivouacs here and there. But Im not sure if we wouldnt loose that...

But the larger question is how we are going to build a sound construct on top of the pile of corruption wich is our current allies. I have friends in Meymaneh, even though Dostum just left the country his cronies still remain. Its bloody frustrating from what I hear. The number of ambushes on Afghan Police is quite staggering.

But what are the solutions? Petraeus omnipotence? I think the "I dunno" pose almost all COIN folks hold on the Afghan question is a wee bit ... unbrave. So, 3 points:

1) Buy poppys. Make a factory , buy the product. Sell to medicine, have afghan women work the pill-box production line. create a working class.

2) Fire people. A lot. This is necessary. A lot of people need to be rotated, so you can fit a team together wich actually understands the terrain.

3) Engage local councils. Make yirgas, or whatever. Force-presence and kindness. What Ive seen of the US in AFghan is quite OK still. But the kinetic solution model just isnt doable there, cause they adapt. They are pretty hard fighters, and they have chechen teams from Kandahar, etc. You *really* should have the Indonesian muslim special forces in front.

My 5 cents, from a syndicalist pov.

Why would an afghan who was

Why would an afghan who was not corrupt be our ally?

The Good War?

The point of the Afghan War, besides catching Bin Laden and all his friends, is to make sure that the Taliban don't return to power because they're one and the same in their goals with Al Qaida.

And as far as a good war is concerned - considering that during WWII we were losing about 350 soldiers a day for three and a half years... Which means, we'd have to stay in Afghanistan for more than two thousand years to reach the same level of casualties. Maybe 700 years to reach the casualties we suffered in Vietnam and Korea.

Maybe people are just spoiled. But as far as wars go, Iraq and Afghanistan's grand total of US killed is less than the first five minutes of D-Day. I guess what I mean to say is, by that measure, we're doing great.

The point of the Afghan War,

The point of the Afghan War, besides catching Bin Laden and all his friends, is to make sure that the Taliban don't return to power because they're one and the same in their goals with Al Qaida.

I think catching Bin Ladin in afghanistan is pretty much a dead issue. We're waiting at the wrong mousehole.

If you want to keep Taliban from returning to power, you need to get an alternate government that people will support more. Now, Taliban is widely thought of as religious and upright, if often inflexible and pigheaded. Our alternative is widely seen as utterly and completely corrupt, seen that way by our own people as well as by afghans. So I'd say you have your work cut out for you.

But as far as wars go, Iraq and Afghanistan's grand total of US killed is less than the first five minutes of D-Day. I guess what I mean to say is, by that measure, we're doing great.

And compared to our latest invasion of panama, we're doing really really badly. Which comparison is more apt? Let's see, WWII, fighting against what at that time was a superpower that had better-trained troops and better equipment than we did. If they held onto all of europe they'd eventually have an economic powerhouse, though they needed more occupation armies than they could afford, they were pretty much inept at getting cooperation from occupied nations, and they were in a fight to the death against the USSR where their supply lines were overextended.

Afghanistan, we're fighting local warlords and their supporters. We are the only superpower with best-trained troops and best equipment. We have an economic powerhouse though it critically depends on foreigners to loan us the money to buy our imports including oil, we need more occupation armies than we can afford, and we are pretty much inept at getting cooperation from occupied nations.

If the local afghan warlords weren't fighting us they'd be fighting each other, as to a large extent they continue to do. Our attacks on Taliban are far too much like what we'd get if foreign occupiers in the USA were trying to keep Baptists out of the government.

Apart from the US deaths which you're fine with, how much borrowed money is it worth to keep Taliban out of the afghan government? And what are we doing to actually provide them with a functional alternative? (The kind of afghans that want to cooperate with us are far too much like the kind of americans who'd cooperate with a foreign occupier who wants to kill Baptists. That isn't our fault, it's just a constraint that's hard to deal with.)