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| New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa |
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Posted On: Aug 21 2008 11:15AM
All children in the New Town School district are now forced to learn to speak Hidatsa. Parents have no other option available, no matter if they are Indian or not. Sorry but not everyone is Hidatsa. |
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Posted On: Aug 21 2008 11:21AM
I believe it is because BARACK OBAMA will be president, and he has already said he is ashamed of us in america that do not know another language (even though Barack doesn't know spanish or french either)... so, lets talk....
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Posted On: Aug 21 2008 11:30AM
I just wished that it be a language that might come in useful if you might move more than fifty miles from New Town. Ever heard of Spanish, German, or French.
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Posted On: Aug 21 2008 11:36AM
Maybe it's because once a race/culture loses its language, they no longer have an identity? Would that then make treaties irrelevant for that particular tribe? That's the scuttlebutt we hear in my neck of the woods anyway.
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Posted On: Aug 22 2008 8:24AM
But Sally, just because a race may lose its language or culture, why would that mean that we americans MUST learn that language? It should be voluntary.
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Posted On: Aug 22 2008 9:35AM
Bonjour. That's true. But what can it hurt to learn the language if that is the community you live in? My maternal grandparents were French/Canadian. They came here as children but were French speaking as long as there were people in our community to converse with. My paternal grandfather was Native American. In our community the French and Ojibway and Cree languages merged over time and became a mixed languages known as Metis, here in Northern ND and in Canada. This mixture is similar to the Cajun dialect. I always regreted that I didn't learn more of all three: French, Ojibway, and Metis.There was no one willing to introduce a requirement (or elective for that matter) to learn and perpetuate this part of a heritage.I know a few words and catch phrases, but now my children will not have been exposed to much at all. These rich cultural languages are being lost.
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Posted On: Aug 22 2008 10:38AM
It is funny you should bring up forgeting cultural heritage. The last time that I checked this reservation contains three tribes, Hidatsa, Arikara, and Mandan. Yet schools feel that they only need to offer Hidatsa. Anyone want to venture a guess which tribe the school superintendant belongs to? I thought these tribes were supposed to be equal, you know the "Three Affiliated Tribes". I am starting to feel as if they should change their name to "The Hidatsa and lesser tribes. " Geez, do you remember when Sakakawea used to be Shoshone, for years. Another thing that is funny, if you look up in the old maps and books it doesn't mention the Hidatsa tribe, they didn't live here. They were a nomadic tribe that moved here when the Mandan and the Arikara took them in, because they were sick and dying. I have heard these stories through my wifes family, which happen to be Arikara-Mandan. Unless you live here, you really don't hear a lot about what goes on here.
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Posted On: Aug 23 2008 10:09AM
whats wrong with learning a language? ANY for that matter...I rather think its the NORM to leern the mexican/beener talk..ITS forcable nowadays here OFF the reservations.... altho I seem to recall This CUTE as A BUTTON lil white guy just a BELTIN" out a lakota song bfore graduating to first grade! HEAP KUDOS to him.... so do we as INDIANS still harbour no likes of taken in tribes?dakotahs took in assiniboines I think,and look how they turned out... the same as EVERY sacajahwea n blue jacket!
so why not? Is FORCING to speak at an indian skool being racist? with in the tribes?
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Posted On: Aug 23 2008 12:06PM
This is a bunch of BS. You want the indians to learn Hidatsa that's fine, but New Town was not on the reservation when my parents were born, therefore, they were here first. We didn't force our ideals on them. There has never been one indian that has been forced to learn Norwegian, German, or any of our cultural languages. For one thing the white parents of white children in New Town don't have to take this lying down, if you don't want your children to learn a language that the indian kids don't even want to learn, don't allow the schools to do this. Just say "under no uncertain terms is my child to be forced to do something they don't want to do, do to the fact this type of education will not help them in the future". I mean come on stick to reading, writing, and math - and leave the wooping and drum banging to the indians. If the child has an interest, and is average in all other areas of education, and the time to learn this than by all means give them free range to choose, don't force something you have no business forcing.
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Posted On: Aug 23 2008 12:23PM
Similar to when the Indians were NOT FORCED to learn English?
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Posted On: Aug 23 2008 1:16PM
Tiene porciones especiales para ninos?
this will be the language we will all be speaking within 30 years.... best learn it.. :)
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Posted On: Aug 23 2008 4:24PM
OK.....one question I would have is if there are people from Three Affiliated Tribes that can still speak and/or teach Arikira or Mandan? All these languages are, unfortunately, dying - maybe teaching Hidatsa is more a product of available teachers than anything else.
Secondly, how useful do you suppose German really is 50 miles or more from New Town, unless, of course, you actually go to Germany? I think the priest in Esmond has a pretty German accent, and of course, Karlsruhe and Napoleon are pretty German, but I do believe that English is actually the primary language in all of these communities. The same applies to French - unless you go North of Winnipeg, how honestly useful is it.
Thirdly, "forcing kids to learn to speak Hidatsa"??? Seriously??? Do you think the kids are sittting down to classes in conversational Hidatsa? Or could it be that the community is trying to share something of it's culture with everyone, and that what we're really talking about here will be mostly vocabulary words, unless a student WANTS to learn more.
Learning and knowledge is power, and all of our children should be learning as much as they can about as many cultures of the world as possible. This process of learning should start in our own country, in our own state - there are many cultures to explore right in our own backyards. Let's not hold it against anyone that wants to share theirs.
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Posted On: Aug 23 2008 4:33PM
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Posted On: Aug 24 2008 11:47AM
I'm pretty sure they got our tax money from the three stooges for this a while back!
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Posted On: Aug 24 2008 1:49PM
OMG! Here we go again! White folks complaining about Indians using their frickin' tax money. Can't you learn a new song?
Guess I'll sing my old tune and say that plenty of us injuns pay just as much or more local, state, and federal tax as the rest of the population.
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