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2011 Ford F-150 EcoBoost V-6

More Power and Better Fuel Economy -- What's Not to Like?
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By Dan Carney

True truck owners, those who need to buy pickups for towing and hauling, need the practicality of a truck, but like everyone else, would like to use less fuel. Unlike the commuters who haul air in their trucks, true truck users don't have the option of swapping their pickups for economy cars.

The obvious solution has been for manufacturers to start putting diesel engines into their light-duty pickup trucks, but the large price difference between regular unleaded and diesel, often about a dollar per gallon, has caused a rethink of that plan. Ford says it has put off (at least for a couple years) its previously announced plan to offer a diesel in the F-150 in 2010.

Instead, the company is developing a V-6 EcoBoost engine for the F-150 which employs turbocharging and direct-injection -- a design that Ford says will deliver similar power to a V-8 engine -- all while using less gas.

Such engines are cheaper to build than diesels -- less than $1000 more costly than a conventional V-8 in comparison to the $4000 or $5000 price tag of a diesel engine, according to Ford. That thousand bucks buys you more power, expected to top the targets of 340 horsepower and 340 pound-feet of torque from the 3.5-liter turbo V-6, compared with the 320 and 390 for today's 5.4-liter Triton V-8.

It will also return 15-20 percent better mileage, Ford engineers predict. That extrapolates to 16 mpg city/23 highway for the EcoBoost engine, compared with 13 and 18 for the V-8 today.

Towing and other hard work won't tax the EcoBoost engine, even though conventional wisdom would suggest that a smaller-displacement engine would have to work harder and that a turbocharged engine could be stressed by heavy loads. The direct injection of gasoline has the effect of cooling the combustion chamber, as the fuel absorbs heat when it evaporates. According to an engineer who is developing the EcoBoost F-150, "cooling has not been an issue."

One challenge will be the sound characteristics of a turbo six-cylinder, which will be different from the familiar mellow rumble of a V-8. The company is looking at solutions, including a simplified active sound-cancellation system that will mold the sound waves that emerge from the exhaust pipe, but without a complex closed-loop system using microphones to monitor and adapt to the sounds being produced. The system would instead use a simple data map to know what it should do under different circumstances.

EcoBoost-powered F-150s will arrive in showrooms in 2010 for the 2011 model year.

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2009 Ford F-150
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Community Comments

motortrend_online  (12/10/08 10:14 AM)

Should be 2011, fixing now

STIC5  (12/10/08 10:19 AM)

I'd never buy a ford truck, but even I can admit that this is a great idea. Ford should put this engine in as many trucks (and cars) as possible.

atvman  (12/10/08 10:39 AM)

As soon as I can pick up a 2-year old used model, I'll probably buy one. I would never buy a brand new truck, I abuse trucks.

jybt  (12/10/08 10:50 AM)

If you'd done this a year sooner, you wouldn't be needing the bailout money.

esanchez  (12/10/08 10:51 AM)

Who cares about how it sounds? If the Bubbas are so insecure about the exhaust note, let 'em get the V-8 and spend more time hanging out at the gas station.

89SHO  (12/10/08 11:10 AM)

I love the idea!

Not to mention that if you live in high elevation areas like I do. You are getting much better performance and fuel economy than it's naturally aspirated stable-mate.

The Turbo increases the amount of O-2 for combustion helping with total efficiency.

Galaxie65  (12/10/08 11:10 AM)

oh the poor ignorance of "jybt", Ford doesn't need the bailout money my friend, check your facts, that's GM and Chrysler that are getting the money

Professor  (12/10/08 11:41 AM)

I have needed to have a V-8 bacause I tow a rather large boat.  I keep my boat stored about 1 mile from the boat ramp and only need the power for that initial pull out of the water.  A turbo v-6, with even less power and better milage would be very welcomed.  Personally, I don't need 340 hp and would be fine with 240hp and even better milage; as long as I can still tow 7000 lbs for a few feet.  My ideal vehicle would give me the maximum power, while still delivering 26 mpg highway; that should be the target.

red_dog007  (12/10/08 11:50 AM)

With the twin-turbochargers from the V6, I just hope that they can make a very strong torque curve that starts out extremely low.  If they end up having noticeable turbo lag, the I feel that the F-150 would no longer be the #1 selling truck, and for people who actually tow, or carry a payload, the lag will just destroy the transmission.

GrandTourer  (12/10/08 12:41 PM)

Will Ford hurry up and give you guys a f-150 test mule with one in it and maybe even the F-100 with the Eco Boost Four cylinder so we can see some tangible evidence of what these cars can do.

atvman  (12/10/08 12:46 PM)

red_dog007 has a very good point. If there is a lot of turbo lag this thing will not be all that desirable.

Shelby Gt500 KR  (12/10/08 12:51 PM)

red_dog007 is right, but Ford has adressed turbolag in ecoboost, aside from that no turbocharged vehicle currently in production is effected by ANY signigicant amount of turbo lag,
aside from that yet again,
it will still offer a V8 as it does now so it has nothing to lose (absolutely nothing) and everything to gain, for this reason it will retain its sales

Shelby Gt500 KR  (12/10/08 12:52 PM)

What truck would take its place then red dog?

Scott2124  (12/10/08 01:07 PM)

Sounds like a strong power plant!

super6stang  (12/10/08 01:15 PM)

I like it. Bolt it on to the base stang and I'd love it.

souldoubt88  (12/10/08 01:34 PM)

throw that ecoboost in a ford ranger!

T.Scott25 the Gear of War  (12/10/08 01:46 PM)

One thing I love is that people are talking about the EcoBoost like it's the best thing ever. GM has already utilized the exact same technology in the 2.0L I-4 in the Cobalt SS and HHR SS, just not in V6 form. It seems that Ford is still going to hang their hat on trucks, while other companies are going ahead with other plans. There's nothing wrong with that, but it is the truth.

burningrubber  (12/10/08 01:49 PM)

Well done Ford - a European-style engine in the all-American F-150 is a winning combination; tough, punchy and frugal. You guys really need to get over the V8 - it's a wastful concept compared with the low-capacity high-technology engines that are going to take the world by storm pretty quickly (I bet). Pity, because the sound of a V8 is so nice!

TSnow27604  (12/10/08 01:51 PM)

It is my understanding that the ecoboost engines will be available in just about everything.  I think that same engine is in the new Lincoln and is slated for the Flex this Spring.  The Fiesta should have one available (though about half the displacement and minus 2 cylinders.)  It will be interesting to see if the Mustang GT gets a turbo V6.  Hey, I'm nuts about Mustangs too but the times they are a changin.'  Plus 340 hp is pretty potent.

bdo81ster  (12/10/08 03:08 PM)

"If you'd done this a year sooner, you wouldn't be needing the bailout money."

Oh yeah, coming up with a brand new engine is so easy.

atvman  (12/10/08 03:31 PM)

T.Scott: You are right but wrong at the same time. The 2.0L in the Cobalt is a turbo engine, but it is tuned for max performance instead of fuel economy and smooth power. The 2.0L Turbo does not feel like a V6 replacement, it feels like a 4-banger on steroids. Ford's goal with EcoBoost is to make a V6 feel like a V8 and increade mileage substantially.

Devil in Baggy Pants  (12/10/08 03:58 PM)

I don't know whose smoking the good stuff but I'll never get rid of my V8. They made over 90 million copies of the Gen 1 SBC and I plan on owning a vehicle that it inhabits for the rest of my life. I wouldn't care what FE it gets as long as I enjoy the vehicle. Isn't that apart of owning a vehicle, having fun with it?

M3ACC  (12/10/08 05:56 PM)

More of the same... tsk tsk.

PEREZ  (12/10/08 06:25 PM)

@MOTORTREND^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The current 5.4L V8 gets ""14 City/20 Highway"" with 4X2 configuration.

The 4x4 gets 14 city/18 highway!


And the SFE gets 15 city/21 Highway.

JamesM  (12/10/08 07:11 PM)

They should let it sound the way it sounds. Let Flowmaster and Borla play around with the sound. The objective should be to take weight out of the vehicle, not add dumb ***

superb4  (12/10/08 08:17 PM)

I'm rather impressed. not a lot of powerful, and efficient american v6s out there. ford might have something here. now i'm wondering about the applications of this engine in the mustang. to my knowledge so far, there is speculation that a variant of this engine will be used in the upcoming, re-designed mustang. now if the v6 mustang produces as much power as the f150 surely the v8 mustang should produce at least 400 horses right?

Lambo08  (12/10/08 10:11 PM)

It's like the 80's Mustang all over again... yay?

PeteMoran  (12/10/08 11:34 PM)

My God! How on earth will Americans do their shopping and drive the highway to work with only a V6 truck?

red_dog007  (12/11/08 01:36 AM)

Shelby GT, the truck would still be around.

Their top engine is going to end up being that 6.2L Boss V8 engine that is rumored to make between 400/400 and 425/425.


They could just continue to use their 5.4L V8 Triton, but lower the prices on it a bit.  The Ecoboost is rumored to make 340/340, but the V8 makes 320/390 on E85 and 310/365 on regular.  So you lose torque, but gain HP with the V6 and I am sure better economy, but it isn't going to be as high as some people might think.  With how heavy these trucks can get, those turbos are going to be needed all the time, loaded up or not to get torque out of the engine to move the truck.  


I really hope that Ford can do it, but I can also see an easy disaster.

eviltollman  (12/11/08 06:08 AM)

YES!!! This is such a great idea...Ford WILL prosper again!!

eviltollman  (12/11/08 06:14 AM)

Turbo lag is a thing of the past....variable-vane and twin-scroll technology has pretty much eliminated this issue, Oh and direct injection helps alot too.  All you turbo nay sayers are just ignorant.  Do your homework on turbo engines and you will see that there IS a replacement for displacement...it's called a turbo!!

To add, it is ALOT easier to tune turbo engines as well, so this will also make the turbo f-150 more attractive to the tuner crowd.

BenBC  (12/11/08 08:21 AM)

Tons of misinformation in the replies here.  

First off, jybt, Ford has turned down the "bailout", they aren't in the dire straits GM and Chrysler are financially. Ford can make it on their own, and don't want our incompetent government meddling in their affairs.  

STIC5, why wouldn't you purchase a Ford truck?  Do you have something against owning the highest quality truck currently built?  Here's a tidbit:  the Tundra and Titan don't have the quality of the F150.  Even the rag that essentially built Toyota's "quality" reputation in the US you that (Consumer Reports).  Rags like M/T praising Toyota quality only propogate a myth.

BenBC  (12/11/08 08:27 AM)

T.Scott25 the Gear of War said yesterday:
"GM has already utilized the exact same technology [EcoBoost] in the 2.0L I-4 in the Cobalt SS and HHR SS"

No, they haven't.  Mazda, a former subsidiary of Ford, has been using a direct injected turbocharge 4-cyl in the CX-7 for some time now.  If you were at all familiar with this technology, you would know there is more to EcoBoost than GDI and a turbo.  The EcoBoost is a highly refined version of the GDI/turbo setup, and major step forward from what we've seen from GM and Mazda.  It will provide mileage neither automaker has achieved with either setup.  

Please, stop spreading ignorance.  You aren't doing anyone any favors...

stanczyk  (12/11/08 10:44 AM)

it has less Torque than V8,..torq comes from displacement and it's improtant in trucks , isnt it?
I think this engine should go to Stallion
EcoBoost Mustang will be stronger than V6 Camaro ..it's the only chance For Mustang to outsell better Camaro..isnt it?
what are they waiting for, why it last so long...
it wil have nice charger whine , it'll be sth like baby-GT500 Shelby

BenBC  (12/12/08 09:59 AM)

Are you serious?  The Mustang is going to have no problems outselling the Camaro, EcoBoostV6 or not.  

Yes, torque is important in trucks, but a t/c GDI V6 will surprise many.

GeepSpot  (12/12/08 09:33 PM)

Let me get this straight. Ford is expecting truck shoppers to spend an extra $1000 for less torque? They might get some takers if gas goes back up, but I don't think this engine will sell with gas at $1.50 a gallon.

Steiner99  (12/13/08 03:23 PM)

Why do I get the feeling that those down on the Ecoboost have never driven a single turbo, let alone a twin turbo?

Ortadragoon  (12/14/08 07:35 AM)

It's definately a good idea for Ford. No doubt about it.

Honestly though, why not just have a V8 truck (they're cheap these days; a cousin of mine bought an 08 Dodge Ram worth 31,000 for about 18,000) and a 4-cylinder car?

seel  (12/14/08 01:22 PM)

The numbers don't jive, if the V-6 is a 15% improvement on the V-8, it only equates to a mpg of 21 highway(not 23 as stated), not really much of an improvement. I believe the Chevy and Dodge trucks with a V-8 get 20mpg. I'll take the V-8 and get 1 less mpg.

BenBC  (12/15/08 09:39 PM)

The current 5.4 (4x2) gets 20 mpg, a 15% improvement over 20 mpg works out to 23 mpg (20*1.15).  

Where are you getting 21 mpg from?

Steiner99  (12/15/08 11:51 PM)

He's using the author's numbers which themselves are misleading since he uses the 4x4 numbers and calculates based on the 4x2 numbers.

"It will also return 15-20 percent better mileage, Ford engineers predict. That extrapolates to 16 mpg city/23 highway for the EcoBoost engine, compared with 13 and 18 for the V-8 today."

allenx71  (12/16/08 02:05 AM)

i m sorry if the advantages to adding the ecoboost technology to the 4 and 6 cylinder motors are that great. why havent we seen the ecoboost technology applied to a V8 engine?? that would be great to have a 6.2 liter V8 producing between 600 and 700 horsepower with better fuel economy. just my 50 cent, and frankly i buy a big truck for a V8 not an ecoboost V6. but i would consider buying a car with an ecoboost just never a full size truck

BenBC  (12/19/08 08:30 PM)

allenx71,

One word:  Bobcat

5.0L DOHC Modular with a couple snails hanging off the front.  Bottom line, assuming the economy doesn't crash further ,we will be seeing an EcoBoost V8.

allenx71  (12/20/08 04:23 PM)

BenBC thanks for the response agreed

zr2s10  (12/22/08 09:43 AM)

you can't say all new cars with turbos have no noticeable lag.  I've driven a new lagacy gt and there was a significant kick at 3k rpm.  Not that I minded it, but it was a noticeable lag.  That said, what I've read about the EcoBoost says they use dual turbos to avoid the lag.  Old Mitsus and other cars with twins were all about high power only.  The EcoBoost dual whiners are setup for low speed and high speed, to reduce noticeable lag, and improve power and economy across the board.  Lots of people think a turbo means an instant drop in economy.  That's just common because most people (self included) can't keep their foot off the floor when they have that much juice on tap.  A turbo kept low in RPMs (3k or less) can actually return decent numbers.

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