Thursday, January 15, 2009
Linehan Brought Back
Former Rams head coach Scott Linehan went before Mike Singletary and Scot McCloughan for the second time Thursday as the 49ers quest for a new offensive coordinator rolled into its second week. The question is Linehan the same playcaller that lifted the Vikings and Dolphins from mediocrity to respectability or will the hangover from his tumultuous days in St. Louis linger?
No question, Linehan presided over a dark era in Rams history during his two plus seasons as head coach following Mike Martz. The Rams offense hummed with Martzian efficiency in Linehan's first year with St. Louis quarterback Marc Bulger posting his first 4,000-yard passing season coupled with an lowly interception percentage of 1.4. Steven Jackson became an unbridled star, amassing 1,502 rushing yards and catching 90 passes. The Rams struggled in the middle of the season then rebounded winning their final three games to finish 8-8 while Linehan and offensive coordinator Greg Olson (a former 49ers quarterback coach) combined on play-calling.
In 2007, the Rams partially retooled and were picked, along with the 49ers, as preseason darlings in the NFC West. But Rams All-Pro left tackle Orlando Pace was lost to a season-ending injury in the opener, which seemed to lead to a flood of injuries on the offensive line. Bulger, Jackson and wide receiver Torry Holt all missed four games or more each. The losing and declining offensive numbers prompted sideline tirades from Holt and Jackson and a camera captured Bulger rolling his eyes after receiving instruction from Linehan during a game. The Rams finished 3-13.
Linehan didn't make it to October this past season after a few lopsided losses and the benching of Bulger, which Jackson criticized during a radio interview. Linehan's first mistake was to hire Al Saunders as the offensive coordinator. Used to Martz's wide open game plans, players chaffed under Saunders' complex and relatively conservative play calling.
So wouldn't Linehan bring his hefty baggage to San Francisco if hired? Particularly since he will once again follow Martz?
No. Martz was only here for one season and he didn't take the 49ers to the Super Bowl, which he did twice in St. Louis, one time as the head coach. Martz also didn't endear himself to many of the players or fellow coaches while here. Tight end Vernon Davis couldn't stand him, and Martz was more dictatorial than consenual in devising his game plans.
Also, under Singletary Linehan would come in with an edict to establish a strong running game. In St. Louis players and fans were still looking to relive the greatest show on turf days. With five years of underperforming offenses, many here would settle for an offense that edges into the top 16.
Of course, Linehan hasn't been hired yet, but of the candidates interviewed, he's the most experienced and if you look past St. Louis, Linehan revitalized the Vikings' and Dolphins' offenses. The question is, can he still do that?
| Jan 15 at 04:12 PM
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
McPherson Gets Call
The 49ers hunt for an offensive coordinator gets more intriguing every day. Consider the interview of Broncos tight ends coach Pat McPherson for the quarterbacks position Wednesday, which would seemingly make former Denver offensive coordinator Rick Dennison a continuing person of interest.
Before moving to coach tight ends, McPherson served as quarterbacks coach for four seasons (2003-6) during the Jake Plummer reign. An also-ran with potential with the Cardinals, Plummer became a quarterback in Denver, leading the Broncos to the playoffs, winning more than two-thirds of his games and compiling a quarterback rating of 84.3, better than that of John Elway.
Mike Singletary - mulling his options.
For the last two seasons, McPherson was shifted to tight ends after Mike Shanahan hired hot-shot quarterbacks coach and offensive play caller Jeremy Bates, a move that could have eventually contributed to Shanahan's dismissal. Yes, Bates led an explosive offense in terms of yardage, but an offense that produced 30 turnovers last year and one that struggled in the red zone.
With McPherson tutoring Plummer and now Texans coach Gary Kubiak calling the plays, the Denver offense kept turnovers to a minimum.
McPherson also has deep ties to the Bay Area and the 49ers. Father Bill McPherson spent 21 years as a linebackers coach and defensive coordinator before moving to the personnel department. He retired in 2005 after over 25 years with the team. Following his playing days at UCLA and Santa Clara, Pat tried out for the team in 1993 as a linebacker, lasted for three exhibition games and then released.
He went back to his alma mater, Bellarmine Prep in San Jose, for four seasons as an English, Algebra and physical fitness instructor, while coaching the school's linebackers and coordinating the defense. During that time, he also volunteered for a season as a defensive assistant for the 49ers.
If the 49ers were to hire Dennison and McPherson, who would call the plays? Neither Dennison nor McPherson have ever done it. Also it would be a little non-traditional hiring Dennison, a former offensive line coach and running-game creator as your offensive coordinator.
Offensive coordinator's almost exclusively come from the passing side of the ball, either as quarterbacks or receivers coaches. But with Singletary's edict of wanting to run, why not have a coordinator from the run side?
Also, if the pair were hired, they're would be no shortage of smarts on the offense. Dennison has a masters' in electrical engineering, McPherson majored in English at Santa Clara and then received his MBA at the school while he taught and coached at Bellarmine.
Their hiring would also mark a return home for the west coast terminology and many of its principles. It would also mean the installation of a zone blocking scheme, something the 49ers should do. The scheme is difficult to defend and could be a boon to a talented runner like Frank Gore.
| Jan 14 at 06:18 PM
Tuesday, January 13, 2009
More Coaching Moves
What in the name of holy hubris is going on around here? The short answer is nothing, but it sure didn't look that way after 49ers coach Mike Singletary added his cousin and a former teammate with no coaching experience to his staff. On Monday, the 49ers announced Vantz Singletary as their inside linebackers coach and former Bears' defensive end Al Harris as their pass rush specialist.
Vantz Singletary actually seems legitimate for the task after 17 seasons as a college position coach, most recently tutoring the University of Buffalo's defensive tackles. Singletary also made stops at Tennessee-Chattanooga, Hawaii (where he coached Isaac Sopoaga), Southern and Trinity.
Harris has no experience, eliciting visions of when former Raiders coach Art Shell hired Irv Eatman and Jackie Slater to share the offensive line coaching duties. The difference here is Vantz Singletary and Harris are being hired for new and relatively minor positions, and they aren't taking anyone's jobs. If they failed utterly, their are experienced coaches such as defensive coordinator Greg Manusky, defensive line coach Jim Tomsula, and outside linebackers coach Jason Tarver, who can pick up for them.
The moves also signal a sure sign that this defense will continue its 3-4 ways Singletary established for the last half of the season. A 3-4 is built upon its linebackers and ability of outside 'backers to apply pressure. Nevertheless, the moves do revive a rumor that Singletary's choices for a perspective coaching staff prevented him for getting a head-coaching job until this year. I brought up the question to Bob LaMonte, Singletary's agent about a year ago, and he said he had never heard the rumor.
It might have been just rumor when you consider the candidates Singletary and general manager Scot McCloughan have interviewed thus far. All have been coordinators and all except former Broncos offensive coordinator Rick Dennison have called plays.
McCloughan and Singletary continued with interviewing viable candidates Tuesday meeting with former Browns quarterbacks coach Bo Scherer for the same position. Singletary said at his season-ending news conference that his new offensive coordinator would possibly have the freedom to bring in his own quarterbacks coach. The 49ers have already interviewed former Browns offensive coordinator, Rob Chudzinski for their coordinator job. So does that mean Chudzinski has the job?
No, according to a team source. Certainly, the interview of Scherer doesn't hurt, and the two did a decent job of bringing along young Browns' players including quarterbacks Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn. Scherer is more experienced than Chudzinski as a former head coach at James Madison and Memphis. Before joining the Browns in 2005, Scherer spent 30 years as a college coach and coordinator.
Chudzinski spent a decade at the University of Miami as a coach and coordinator, a place he got to know 49ers running back Frank Gore. At the Pro level, Chudzinski only has five years of experience, but two of those were as a coordinator.
It's unknown whether the team is rounding to a decision on their coordinator or if more candidates are expected to interview.
| Jan 13 at 07:48 PM
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Monday, January 12, 2009
Denver's Dennison Next Up
Ousted Broncos offensive coordinator/offensive line coach Rick Dennison stopped making the family chili Monday for a trip to sunny Santa Clara and an interview with the 49ers. Any thoughts of Dennison continuing in Denver were firmly squelched after the Broncos hired Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, but the 49ers scheduled the interview before McDaniels got the job.
At first blush, Dennison, 50, looks mighty offensive. Denver finished second in total offensive yards, second in yards per play, third in average yards per carry and first in net passing yards.
Rick Dennison interviewed for the 49ers OC job on Monday.
A deeper investigation reveals, that at least last season, Dennison was sort of a West Coast offense version of Mike Martz - terrific between the 20's, but mediocre in the red zone and terrible with turnovers.
Denver's minus 17 turnover differential tied for worst in the league with the 49ers, and Denver's 30 turnovers tied for fifth in the league with Arizona and Buffalo. While Dennison's offense tore up the field, once they edged towards the end zone, they turned mediocre.
Ranking second in total offense, they dropped to 16th once in the red zone and their scoring rate of 80 percent was fifth worst behind Jacksonville, Dallas, Houston and Washington.
Where Dennison shines is in his ability to call pass protections and devise the run game. In fact, the passing game was left almost entirely to quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. He called the plays, with heavy input on the running game from Dennison. Bates and Dennison collaborated on the first scripted 18 plays Denver starts their offensive game plan with.
Dennison is certainly smart enough to call plays and incorporate the passing game into play calling. Just reading quotes about him from his linemen and coaches, they all mention the civil engineer's intelligence; he owns a masters' degree in Civil Engineering from Colorado State and his father George is in his 18th year as president of the University of Montana.
The Broncos thought highly enough of Rick to grant him an interview last Tuesday to replace Mike Shanahan as their head coach. Dennison spent over twenty years with the Broncos - nine as a linebacker and the last 14 as a coach.
The obvious advantage to Dennison is his knowledge of protections - Denver has been mighty stingy yielding sacks during the Dennison offensive-line era and that includes last season where the Broncos ranked first in fewest sacks per play, despite quarterback Jay Cutler's 616 attempts, only New Orleans' Drew Brees (635 attempts) had more.
When Dennison was exclusively the Broncos' line coach from 2001 through 2006, the Broncos finished second in rushing yards during that time. If Dennison is hired, expect the 49ers to adopt more of a zone-blocking run scheme, a Denver stalwart since the days of their legendary offensive line coach Alex Gibbs.
| Jan 12 at 02:18 PM
Sunday, January 11, 2009
A Day of Rest
On the seventh day, the 49ers rested. After interviewing four offensive coordinator candidates in the last two days, the 49ers took Sunday off.
Just to review, Colts quarterbacks coach Clyde Christensen, former Rams head coach Scott Linehan and former Browns coordinator Rob Chudzinski blew threw the 49ers' building. All have play-calling experience with Linehan having the most. He's also made some stunning tournarounds for yard-starved offenses. Consider Linehan boosted the Vikings' running game from 25th to first in 2002 and under him Minnesota scored 100 more points in one season.
He worked similar magic in Miami, with the Dolphins going from 31st in rushing to 14th. He lifted the Rams rushing offense briefly after Mike Martz's departure, but under the weight of injuries and the persistent rumors of selling the team, St. Louis utterly collapsed, and Linehan was fired. He incurred the wrath of Rams best player, running back Steven Jackson, after Linehan benched the popular but ineffective Marc Bulger.
Nevertheless, Linehan's non-Rams past proves he has the chops to do what Norv Turner did in 2006, and that's get the 49ers running game into the NFL's top ten without sarificing the passing game. Shaun Hill is likely pulling for Linehan; Hill served as Linehan's third quarterback for a year in Minnesota.
More candidate are expected this week, maybe even some from the recently ousted playoff teams.
| Jan 11 at 04:21 PM
Friday, January 09, 2009
BCS, An OC Interview, And Driven Spikes
Movement has been spotted on the offensive coordinator front down at 4949 Centennial Blvd. in Santa Clara. Colts wide receivers coach Clyde Christensen interviewed this morning. Part of the Colts offensive machine, Christensen spent seven seasons tutoring Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and the like. Before that he was an offensive coordinator for the 2001 season before Tony Dungy was fired in favor of Jon Gruden.
That year, the Bucs offense finished tied for 26th in offensive yards, but 15th in passing yards with Brad Johnson as the quarterback and Keyshawn Johnson, who went to the Pro Bowl that year, as his main target.
Dungy offensive school has traditionally run the digital or digit system, the same scheme the 49ers have run for the last three seasons. Christensen has also been a zone blocking advocate, the same system newly hired running backs coach Tom Rathman worked in the last two years in Oakland.
BCS REVIEW: For those interested in how players the 49ers might be focusing on in the BCS Championship Game last night fared, here's a quick look. By the way I was remiss in not mentioning Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford yesterday as a prospect. Correction: He's a redshirt sophomore, nevertheless, two scouts said that he is a far better prospect than Tim Tebow and they compared him to Troy Aikman. He didn't play that well in this game, but the game-killing interception was simply a great play by Florida safety Ahmad Black.
Sooner safety Lendy Holmes - Both defenses played well and Holmes not only showed an ability to cover but also come down and be a eighth man in the box to stop the run.
Sooner safety Nic Harris - He had his only interception of the season in this game by stepping in front of a Tebow pass in the first quarter. He also showed surprising strength hauling down the explosive Percy Harvin with one hand after a long run. Sooner offensive tackles Phil Loadholt and Trent Williams. Not having enough time wasn't Bradford's problem and these two blocked like demons in the first half when Oklahoma was rushing at will. Williams showed some toughness, he limped off in the second half, but then shortly returned.
Oh, Shut up already!
Probably the best Sooner on the field was sophomore defensive tackle Gerald McCoy. What a beast. On one play, he flushed Tebow from the pocket, turn around and caught him from behind. The tiresome Tebow gained 2 yards on the play. Sorry, not a Tebow fan. The excessive emoting, the freakish speech after the Gators' in-season loss, the showing up of the opposition. If was he was Vernon Davis, everybody would hate him and call him an emotionally-unhinged showboat. He didn't throw that well, completing 18 of 30 passes with two touchdowns and two interceptions that were clearly his fault.
Gator right tackle Justin Trautwein really struggled with four false starts and a poor game in pass protection. He did run block well. Jason Watkins played far better on the left side; he might be a find in the middle rounds.
Wide receiver Louis Murphy showed some big play ability by scoring an early touchdown, but left the game later with a leg pull.
Harvin was everything as advertised. He's a talent. Overall, Florida's skill players seemed so much faster and that fact probably won them the game.
Linebacker Brandon Spikes seemed to be intimidated to start after getting nearly tackled on a couple plays by Sooner senior guard Duke Robinson. He did show versatility by rushing off the edge and playing middle linebacker, but he didn't have much of an impact in this game.
Which brings us to
SPIKES AND SPIKES: Takeo Spikes is a cousin to Brandon, something he didn't realize until a few years ago.
"At first I thought that I was the last of the Spikes' generation and it was a couple of years ago I found out, before my father died, he told me that I had [family] in [North Carolina] around the [North Carolina/ South Carolina State line] near Charlotte, NC," Takeo said. "So a couple of years had past by and some of the old relatives came to see me and the rest of my relatives and that's when I knew of him at the time."
Takeo started a tradition this season of catering food and watching film after practice on Wednesdays with his teammates. He suggested that to Brandon, and Brandon invited his teammates over to his apartment on Thursday nights for pizza and film study. Some say that Takeo plays like Brandon.
"I think that he has natural football tendencies," Takeo said. "His football I.Q. is very high because he just plays with great instinct."
So what Takeo think if the 49ers drafted Brandon and Takeo re-signed?
"We'd [look forward to] going to the Super Bowl the next year. [With him] you can't lose," Takeo said.
| Jan 09 at 10:44 AM
Thursday, January 08, 2009
BCS Prospects and Talkin' with Rathman
Are you ready for the BCS title game tonight? The 49ers will be interested parties and might even have a scout at the game. I'm looking at the areas of greatest need - secondary, defensive line, offensive tackle, quarterback, linebacker and even running back. Here are a few players to watch carefully:
Florida left tackle Jason Watkins: Projected by NFLdraftscout.com to go in the fourth or fifth round. At 6-6, 310 he's rangey and athletic. He started out as a tight end and even lined up at wide out. Watkins has accepted an invitation to play in the Senior Bowl. The question is, can he play on the right side?
What kind of pro would Tim Tebow make?
Florida right tackle Phil Trautwein: He missed his junior season with a stress fracture in his foot but rebounded this year and was named All-SEC. Like Watkins, he's 6-6, 310 and excellent in the run game the key for him tonight will be his ability to pass protect. Draftscout has him as a seventh-round prospect, but after a fine senior season, he could go higher. He was on the Academic Honor roll in 2006 and, he joined Watkins as a member of the Leadership Committee, whatever that is.
Florida wide receiver Louis Murphy. Big (205) and fast (4.38 in 40), Murphy projects to be a second- or third-rounder. Tonight's game for him could be key. He should have better stats playing opposite Percy Harvin, who maybe the most explosive wide receiver in the country.
The Gators have a number of highly touted juniors including quarterback Tim Tebow, Harvin and linebacker Brandon Spikes.
Harvin: He says he's 90 percent after sprained his ankle several weeks ago. Harvin can do everything - return kicks, come out of the backfield, etc. The question is will this unquestioned first-rounder go pro. Media reports say he's leaning towards going pro.
Tebow: Fiery leader who's shown himself to be more of a passer than a runner this season with the emergence of the Florida running game. The key for Tebow tonight will be accuracy, which is the biggest question for NFL scouts. Tebow has submitted his profile to an advisory board to get their opinion on whether he should go pro.
Spikes: 49ers inside linebacker Takeo Spikes said Brandon is his cousin, and it would be ironic if he replaced him. Scouts says the younger Spikes plays like the older Spikes and he sure might look good next to Patrick Willis. Brandon is also leaning towards entering the draft.
Sooner Prospects:
Free safety Lendy Holmes: Very opportunistic with nine interceptions this year. He has glue hands and was tried at cornerback before the season started. With so many NFL offenses going with three or more receivers over half the time, coverage skills from a free safety are essential. Projected to be a 7th rounder, but should go much higher.
Tackle Trent Williams: He's a junior, but he's likely to come out. He's the second ranked tackle on NFLdraftscout.com's list of tackles. He's 309 pounds and has great feet. He can also play on the left or right side.
Strong safety Nic Harris: At 6-3, 228 with 4.6 40 speed, Harris is more Michael Lewis than Mark Roman, and Lewis is coming off a solid year. Nevertheless Harris contended for the Ronnie Lott Award this season and was named first-team All Big-Ten. But can he cover receivers down the field? That's what we should all look for tonight. Draft scout has him projected as a third-rounder.
Tackle Phil Loadholt: Mans the right side, and if the 49ers want to go big on their offensive line, Loadholt at 6-8, 337 pounds, could fill that role. He was arrested in the summer on suspicision of a DUI and open container. How much Oklahoma 3-2 beer would take to get this guy tanked? Anyway, can the guy pass protect? That's what to look for tonight.
Wide receiver Juaquin Iglesiasz: Not fast, but productive as his 12 catches for 191 yards against Kansas will attest. The 49ers are looking for a burner, and Iglesiasz's 4.5 40-time will have to improve at the combine for him to be high on the 49ers' list. He's projected, again by NFLdraftscout.com, to be a third-rounder.
RATHMAN SIGNED: The 49er didn't interview any OC candidates today, but they did make Tom Rathman available. He was asked about memories from the 1988 title game in Chicago when the 49ers upset the Bears. Rathman said on the 61-yard, first-quarter touchdown pass to Jerry Rice, he blocked a blitzing Mike Singletary that allowed Joe Montana time to throw. That was the first touchdown in a 28-3 romp. Rathman said in his interview Wednesday with Singletary that they never talked about the offensive coordinator position. He said he and Singletary share the same philospphy on football - that it's built on toughness. Rathman also had glowing remarks about Al Davis, the Raiders and the two years he spent there as their running backs coach. "They have a ton of ability," he said. "That's what makes it tough to leave."
| Jan 08 at 04:03 PM
Wednesday, January 07, 2009
Rathman Agrees
OK, forget what I wrote earlier about Tom Rathman being a co-offensive coordinator. Apparently, neither the 49ers nor Rathman thought that was such a good idea. This evening, Rathman agreed to terms to become the 49ers next running backs coach, which, as many of you noted, is a fine hire. Rathman is a dedicated family man and maybe he doesn't want to be consumed with the X's and O's as a coordinator yet.
This hire might not sit too well with Tony Nathan. He was fired and Mike Singletary said the reason was a new coordinator would have the freedom to select his own quarterbacks coach and running backs coach. Ooops. However, it might have been a situation where signing Rathman was too good to pass up. He could also provide desperately needed continuity for this team by moving into the coordinator's spot should the next one leave.
Also does it mean the 49ers already have their next coordinator and they can't name him yet because he's on a playoff team? That might explain the slow pace of interviews. Although I don't think that's the case, but you never know.
The 49ers might also be thinking they will promote from within. As mentioned previously, receivers coach Jerry Sullivan and offensive line coach Chris Foerster have coordinated before. They could also promote offensive assistant Adam Gase to quarterbacks coach.
These wouldn't be sexy hires, but the 49ers don't want that. Who needs another coordinator just using the 49ers as a stepping stone to get some place else?
| Jan 07 at 06:09 PM
Rathman Interviews
When Mike Singletary was asked when he'd like to have a new offensive coordinator, he said, "Yesterday." That was a week ago, at Singletary's season-ending news conference. So far, no one has interviewed, and no one will be interviewed today for the coordinator position, however one coach did come in.
Former 49ers fullback and current Raiders running backs coach Tom Rathman interviewed this morning with Singletary and general manager Scot McCloughan for the running backs position, but the 49ers might want to consider him for a larger role. They could make him responsible for the running game, its coaching and its creation.
Tom Rathman breaks up a fight between Derrick Deese (63) and Ken Norton during his prior 49ers coaching days.
Who knows more about the 49ers and the running game than Rathman? He was reared in Bobb McKittrick's system of traps, counters and sweeps. As a running backs coach for the 49ers from 1997 through 2002, he coaxed 1,000-yard seasons out of three different running backs every season including a 1,570 yard outburst out of Garrison Hearst in 1998, the last year the 49ers appeared in a NFC Championship game (remember when that happened regularly?) He adjusted to the injury addled Hearst and still got 1,206 yards out of him after Hearst's two-season hiatus while he recovered from the extraction of dead bone in his ankle. Rathman handled difficult personalities in Charlie Garner and Kevan Barlow, and he developed Fred Beasley into a Pro Bowl fullback.
More telling is to examine what happened after Rathman left - Beasley seemingly lost interest and eventually left as a malcontent. Beasley and Barlow continued their long bubbling feud, Barlow clashed with Dennis Erickson's running backs coach Tim Lappano, and the team struggled through two seasons without a 1,000-yard rusher.
Read More »| Jan 07 at 11:59 AM
Monday, January 05, 2009
More on Robinson and a New Show
Welcome Ted Robinson. The local broadcaster was named the new play-by-play voice of the 49ers today. Robinson replaces the retiring Joe Starkey, who handled the play-by-play chores for the last 20 years.
"The San Francisco 49ers enjoy a proud history as a premier football organization and are now well positioned to build upon that legacy," Robinson said in a statement released by the team. "I am sincerely honored to be added to the short but esteemed list of distinguished announcers who played a role in bringing the 49ers accomplishments on the field to life."
According to the team's press release, Robinson worked as on the 49ers' pre- and post-game shows from 1983-86. He's also a frequent fill-in host on KNBR, the flagship station, and has held a number of play-by-play jobs with the Giants, A's and Yankees. He's also the voice of Wimbledon, French Open and U.S. Open tennis tournaments, along with being a member of a team of broadcasters covering the summer and winter Olympics.
I've had the pleasure of working with Robinson as a fill-in host and I've always been impressed with Robinson's intelligence and broad base of knowledge.
Robinson will be paired with color man Gary Plummer, who has become one of the best in the business. Robinson is the fifth play-by-play man in the team's 63-year history. He follows Joe Starkey (1989-2008), Lon Simmons (1963-1980, 1987-88), Don Klein (1981-86) and Bob Fouts (1946-1963).
Thanks to the 49ers public relations department for all the information you read here and for Ted's photo.
NEW SHOW: KTRB 860 AM is going with the Chris Townsend Show from 10 pm to 1 am. Townsend is the other 49ers Insider, the one who appears every week on Comcast Sportsnet California. The show is also part of Ron Barr's Sportsbyline USA and is carried on Armed Forces Radio, which is carried to 175 radio stations nationwide and 177 stations internationally. I'm going to be on frequently including tonight with Chris talking 49ers and the NFL at 10:20.
It was announced today, by the way, that KTRB is the new flagship station for the Oakland A's.
| Jan 05 at 12:04 PM
