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Hrg. 108-341 CHILD PROTECTION AND FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION ACT ======================================================================= HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED EIGHTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION ON S. 1601 TO AMEND THE INDIAN CHILD PROTECTION AND FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION ACT TO PROVIDE FOR THE REPORTING AND REDUCTION OF CHILD ABUSE AND FAMILY VIOLENCE INCIDENCES ON INDIAN RESERVATIONS __________ SEPTEMBER 24, 2003 WASHINGTON, DC 89-643 U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON : 2003 ____________________________________________________________________________ For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512ÿ091800 Fax: (202) 512ÿ092250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402ÿ090001 COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS BEN NIGHTHORSE CAMPBELL, Colorado, Chairman DANIEL K. INOUYE, Hawaii, Vice Chairman JOHN McCAIN, Arizona, KENT CONRAD, North Dakota PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico HARRY REID, Nevada CRAIG THOMAS, Wyoming DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah BYRON L. DORGAN, North Dakota JAMES M. INHOFE, Oklahoma TIM JOHNSON, South Dakota GORDON SMITH, Oregon MARIA CANTWELL, Washington LISA MURKOWSKI, Alaska Paul Moorehead, Majority Staff Director/Chief Counsel Patricia M. Zell, Minority Staff Director/Chief Counsel (ii) C O N T E N T S ---------- Page S. 1601, text of............................................. 2 Statements: Brunoe, Garland, chairman, Confederated Tribes of the Warm Springs Reservation of Oregon.............................. 27 Campbell, Hon. Ben Nighthorse, U.S. Senator from Colorado, chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs...................... 1 Cross, Terry, executive director, National Indian Child Welfare Association........................................ 29 Grim, Charles W., director, Indian Health Service, Department of Health and Human Services............................... 19 Hopper, Woodrow, acting deputy assistant secretary for management--Indian Affairs, Department of the Interior..... 18 Lewis, Mark, director, Guidance Center, Hopi Tribes of Indians.................................................... 25 Perez, Jon, IHS Division of Behavioral Health................ 19 Appendix Prepared statements: Brunoe, Garland.............................................. 39 Cross, Terry (with attachment)............................... 42 Grim, Charles W. (with attachment)........................... 70 Hopper, Woodrow (with attachment)............................ 80 Inouye, Hon. Daniel K., U.S. Senator from Hawaii, vice chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs...................... 39 Taylor, Jr., Wayne, chairman, Hopi Tribe (with attachment)... 92 Toulou, Tracy, director, Office of Tribal Justice, Department of Justice (with attachment)............................... 100 CHILD PROTECTION AND FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION ACT ---------- WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2003 U.S. Senate, Committee on Indian Affairs, Washington, DC. The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 2 p.m. in room 485, Russell Senate Building, Hon. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (chairman of the committee) presiding. Present: Senator Campbell. STATEMENT OF HON. BEN NIGHTHORSE CAMPBELL, U.S. SENATOR FROM COLORADO, CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS The Chairman. The committee will be in order. Welcome to the committee's hearing on a bill to reauthorize the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Act, S. 1601, which I was happy to introduce along with my friend and colleague, Senator Inouye. Senator Inouye won't be here this morning. We are both also on Appropriations and he is still in the appropriations hearing. Senators Johnson and Domenici have also cosponsored this bill. Prepared Statement of Sen. Inouye appears in appendix. [Text of S. 1601 follows:] <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> The Chairman. Today, we will receive testimony on continued incidences of child abuse, the need for tribal infrastructure for managing child abuse cases, and whether there is proper interagency cooperation and character investigations for individuals having regular contact with Indian children. There is a chart here on the right and as you can see from that chart, studies indicate violence and abuse in Indian country occurs at rates that are higher than other populations. At one time, the rate of violence in Indian country rose by 18 percent while at the same time, it decreased by 8 percent for the general population. On chart 2, these percentages translate into very startling figures. The numbers of Indian children victimized were over 3,000 out of every 100,000 children which is far too many. In fact one is far too many. Enacted in 1990, the act established extensive reporting requirements, mandated certain character investigations and authorized funding for prevention and treatment programs. The bill before us today is designed to improve tribal capacity and to identify the impediments to reducing child abuse. S. 1601 promotes cultural perspectives by giving consideration to tribal programs which incorporate traditional healing methods. Preventing child abuse also requires that individuals having regular contact with children are adequately screened prior to contact. S. 1601 will expand the scope of character investigations to contractors and volunteers in addition to employees who have regular contact with Indian children making its scope consistent with other Federal law. With that, I look forward to hearing the testimony from our witnesses and we will go ahead and start with pane one which will be Woodro Hopper, acting deputy assistant secretary for Management, Indian Affairs, Department of the Interior and Charles Grim, director, Indian Health Service. We will take you in that order with Mr. Hopper first. Your complete written testimony will be included. If you would like to deviate from that written testimony, that will be fine. STATEMENT OF WOODROW HOPPER, ACTING DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR MANAGEMENT--INDIAN AFFAIRS, DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR Mr. Hopper. I am pleased to be here today to provide the Department's testimony supporting S. 1601, a bill to amend the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Act to provide for the reporting and reduction of child abuse and family violence incidents on Indian reservations. The Department of the Interior supports expansion of the number and breadth of employment positions that will be subject to the minimum standards of character under the act. The Department of the Interior recommends a review not only of appropriate State criminal history repositories but also tribal criminal history repositories. We also support inclusion of the certification requirements for education employees who are responsible for child protection at residential and day schools. Certification is critical as almost all Bureau of Indian Affairs [BIA] funded schools contract to provide important services including mental health and other social services to Indian students. The Department of the Interior supports conducting a study to help identify and reduce the barriers to implementation of the Act, with particular emphasis on tribal, Federal and State investigations and prosecution of Indian and non-Indian abusers. The study will allow the Office of Law Enforcement Services in the BIA to identify efforts that better serve Indian communities and improve the implementation of the President's citizen centered government initiative. However, we respectfully request additional time in which to complete the more comprehensive report to better identify incidences of child abuse and family violence and steps to improve intergovernmental and interagency cooperation. The BIA, in cooperation with Indian tribes, must continue to develop more awareness at the local level to prevent child abuse. We must work together to ensure that abusers do not have access to children and that any incidences of abuse are prosecuted. This concludes my statement. I want to thank you for introducing this legislation and for your support for the protection of our future generations. I would be happy to answer any questions you may have. [Prepared statement of Mr. Hopper appears in appendix.] STATEMENT OF CHARLES W. GRIM, DIRECTOR, INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, ACCOMPANIED BY JON PEREZ, DIRECTOR, IHS DIVISION OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH Mr. Grim. Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. I am Dr. Charles W. Grim, director of the Indian Health Service. I have accompanying me today, Dr. Jon Perez, director of our IHS Division of Behavioral Health. I will be making the opening statement for the Department and Dr. Perez is here to help with additional questions, should the committee have them. I am pleased to have the opportunity to testify on behalf of Secretary Thompson on S. 1601, the Indian Child Protection Family Violence Prevention Act of 2003. With your concurrence, I will submit my written testimony for the record and just speak briefly. The Chairman. It will be included in the record. Mr. Grim. Thirteen years ago, this committee authorized the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Act because of the incidences of abuse of children on Indian reservations was underreported and because many perpetrators of sexual abuse of children on Indian reservations were Federal Government employees and because funds were inadequate to meet the increasing needs for mental health treatment and counseling for victims of child abuse and family violence. This act was passed to help preserve the continued existence and integrity of Indian tribes by protecting American Indian and Alaska Native children and families. Thirteen years later, these reasons, while somewhat diminished, are still valid reasons to reauthorize the act. Indian country has higher rates of child abuse and domestic violence than other population groups in the United States. Child abuse and family violence are crimes and there are tribal, State and Federal laws that address the criminal aspects of these behaviors. The Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Act enables us to undertake treatment and prevention program activities to reduce the risk factors associated with child abuse and family violence. The available statistics you presented briefly in your opening comments show an alarmingly high level of child abuse and family violence in Indian country and this Act gives us an opportunity to do something about it. Abuse and neglect have short and long term consequences and long term means a lifetime of physical and psychological scars. Experiencing abuse, neglect or violence or even its threat increases the risk of the victim becoming a perpetrator of violence. Children who have experienced such abuse are also at increased risk for experiencing the adverse health effects and behaviors as adults that include smoking, alcoholism, drug abuse, physical inactivity, obesity, depression, suicide, sexual promiscuity, and certain chronic diseases and being a perpetrator of abuse as well. As we all know, these health effects and behaviors also are risk factors for many other diseases and chronic conditions. The consequences of child abuse and neglect can be seen throughout the life cycle. Among our youth who are incarcerated, there are a large number who are victims of child abuse and neglect. We must protect our children and our families from violence and must provide treatment if we are to break the cycle. There is no simple solution. There are many factors commonly associated with abuse and neglect but the presence of these factors alone does not guarantee abusive situations will develop. If we can reduce the risk factors, we can also reduce the incidence of child abuse and family violence and can break the cycle of abuse and its consequences. The Indian Health Service has been a partner with five tribes in funding grants to establish programs for child protective services, child abuse prevention, family violence prevention and abuse prevention and identification education programs. The programs developed from these grants incorporated culturally relevant aspects of prevention programs that have shown positive effectiveness in reducing abuse and violence. Programs of home visiting and family intervention, parent education and school based programs for the prevention of child sexual abuse appear to increase the number of children more likely to use protective strategies. The IHS also funded the development of a Child Protection Technical and Training Manual for use in Indian country. In addition, the Administration for Children and Families, Office of Child Abuse and Neglect within the Department of HHS funded the Making Medicine Project that has trained 150 professionals on providing culturally sensitive treatment to Indian victims of child physical and sexual abuse. These professionals are working with American Indian and Alaska Native communities around the country. The IHS has also established an interagency agreement with the Department of Justice, Office of Victims of Crime for a four year training program for IHS physicians and nurse practitioners in the application of forensic and telemedicine equipment in child sexual abuse cases. In addition, as required by the current and the proposed act, the IHS published an interim final rule that established minimum standards of character for IHS employees, volunteers and contractors who are in positions identified by the IHS as involving regular contact or control over American Indian and Alaska Native children. The rate of child abuse and family violence in Indian country is high and is unacceptable. It happens for many reasons but it doesn't happen in isolation from the economic and social problems that are faced in Indian country resulting in poverty, a lack of resources, limited opportunity and a sense of hopelessness and isolation at times. The reauthorization of the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Act as I mentioned earlier will continue to help us protect our children and treat the survivors of family violence and abuse. It will take further investment and a broad range of Federal and tribal programs to achieve the goal of prevention. The Department and IHS are committed to working with you to achieve those goals of prevention. In conclusion, the Department fully supports enactment of S. 1601. I would be pleased to answer any questions you or any other members of the committee might have. Thank you. [Prepared statement of Dr. Grim appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you both, Mr. Hopper and Dr. Grim. It really kind of amazes me when we look at the statistics dealing with child abuse. Historically, Indian people were the most loving families you could ever ask for where they all participated in raising their children. They are literally known for that kind of loving family and yet we have some of the highest child abuse in the country. I can only attribute it to some of the factors you mentioned, drugs, alcohol and so on, the things that go with a depressed economy and a depressed society. Sometimes that anger turns inward. Mr. Hopper, I am interested in the progress the Department has made and its experience over the past 8 years in implementing the act. First of all, let me ask is there a backlog now of security checks of people? Mr. Hopper. My understanding as of last evening is there is no backlog of security checks. The Chairman. There is not. Explain this to me. Is the Security Division now in two parts with one part being in Albuquerque and one part being in Washington? Mr. Hopper. That is somewhat correct, sir. The Office of Indian Education has its own separate Personnel Security Office right now that is located in Albuquerque. The other entities within the BIA have a separate office. The Chairman. What does one do that the other one does not do? Mr. Hopper. They both perform similar duties. One office concentrates primarily on the 5,000 or so educators and people who work in the schools, while the other office concentrates on the employees who work in the trust and tribal services related programs. The Chairman. It works better to have one group in Albuquerque? Mr. Hopper. Under the reorganization we are going through right now, they will be merged into one unit and will be located, at the moment, in Albuquerque, NM, within in the Office of Law Enforcement Services. The Chairman. Currently the act requires all authorized positions within the Department to have regular contact with children to undergo a character investigation. What is the Department of the Interior's process for determining whether a position requires the investigation or not? Is it direct contact with the children? Mr. Hopper. Yes; it is. The security personnel in conjunction with the program side of the house determine which positions require an investigation. However, when you look at our education programs, virtually every position has the preponderance of contact with children and virtually every position requires a character background checks, whether it is a janitor or a school principal. We have been doing that now for many, many years. The Chairman. In addition to Indian students lot of the tribal schools now have non-Indian children in the schools because their parents employees of the tribe or something. In the process you describe, what governs the positions outside the BIA Office of Indian Education? Say it is a non-Indian kid that is enrolled in that school, an Indian school. Mr. Hopper. Would you mind restating the question? The Chairman. Many of the schools now on reservations have mostly Indian children but have some non-Indian children in the schools because their parents are employees of the tribe or something of that nature. They are isolated from the city, so they have them in the same schools with Indian children. How do you interact with them? What governs the positions dealing with kids that may not be Indian but are in Indian schools who may have been abused? Mr. Hopper. It is the employees that have the background check, not the children. Are you asking if something happens to one of the children? The Chairman. Yes. Mr. Hopper. The reporting process for any child in the school would be the same. The Chairman. The same? Mr. Hopper. Yes; I would have to defer to one of the staff to give you an idea of the number of non-Indian children that may be attending a BIA school. The Chairman. I don't need the numbers, that is all right. In 1998, the Office of Inspector General conducted surveys of character investigations for certain area offices of the Office of Indian Education and there appears to be a significant delay in conducting character investigations. Have you taken any steps to try to speed up that or to improve the process? Mr. Hopper. What happened was, the Office of Indian Education established within their own ranks, an office to deal with personnel security and that backlog has been reduced. They are expeditiously processing the background investigations. The Chairman. The act also requires the Department to establish an Indian Child Resource and Family Services Center with a multidisciplinary team. What is the progress of that? Mr. Hopper. The BIA does use the Child Protection Team concept if that is what you are referring to in the event that we have an incident. We have a multidisciplinary team that works in conjunction with Indian Health Service, the Justice Department, law enforcement, and whoever else is necessary. The Chairman. So there is not a physical center where they work together? Mr. Hopper. No, sir; it is not a center. The Chairman. The act also required the Department to conduct a feasibility study for the Central Registry to collect data and reports on child abuse. I understand that was not established but there are apparently some alternatives and resources for tracking child abuse in Indian country, are there not? Mr. Hopper. I don't have the answer to that. I can provide it to you or call on BIA staff who may know. The Chairman. Bill, do you know? If somebody does know, otherwise I would have you provide that to me. Identify yourself for the record, Bill. Mr. Mehojah. I am Bill Mehojah, director, Office of Tribal Services. Presently, we do not have a central registry in place. Any reports of child abuse incidents are reported to law enforcement and they maintain a database or system of counting those cases but we do not have a central registry. The Chairman. Then how do you monitor a perpetrator moving from one jurisdiction to another when he gets a little worried that somebody may uncover what he has been doing and he moves to someplace else? Mr. Hopper, if you know that? Mr. Hopper. If we find a perpetrator and we identify the individual as an employee, we will take immediate action to put him on administrative leave until we can perform the due process. That is when the Department of Justice steps in if they are going to prosecute. The employee could be fired and incarcerated. They could never be reemployed with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. If you are asking if there is any possibility they could somehow be employed with another agency at some later date, there is no second chance in BIA. The Chairman. There is no second chance, in other words. Mr. Hopper. There is no second chance in BIA, that is correct. The Chairman. They can't just be transferred as we have read about and seen in the news with some churches, for instance? Mr. Hopper. No; that does not happen. The individual isolated until such time that we either prosecute or remove them administratively. The Chairman. As I understand your testimony, you are pretty supportive of the bill, S. 1601? Mr. Hopper. Absolutely. The Chairman. We want to mark this bill in October and are kind of running out of time. As you know, we only have maybe another 6 weeks and we will be out of here for the year. If you have any suggestions of how we can improve the bill, if you would contact staff, I would certainly appreciate it because I would like to mark this up in October if we can. Mr. Hopper. Yes, sir. The Chairman. Dr. Grim, thank you for appearing today. What role does the Indian Health Service play in this whole child abuse investigation realm? Dr. Grim. We perform a number of services in the child abuse arena. We perform both clinical, forensic, supportive and training roles. Clinical services we provide involve direct assessment and treatment of those people who have been abused. The Chairman. Counseling programs or something of that nature? Mr. Grim. Yes; counseling services, as well as substance abuse and treatment services may be needed as a result of abuse. We also provide forensic exams when necessary in our facilities like the sexual assault forensic exams. We have protocols and procedures in place to deal with those and oftentimes our providers who are doing those exams are sometimes called upon to testify in judicial proceedings. We also provide supportive services for both families and victims in the way of social services, counseling, and other sorts of services that may be necessary. We also train IHS personnel across the clinical spectrum in identifying, assessing and treating victims of child abuse or their families. The Chairman. We are always talking about budget crunches around here as you know. Do you find the resources we provide adequate for you to do a first class job in this area? Mr. Grim. As always, Senator, we try to do the best we can with the resources that are available. The major issues that usually arise are often in our smaller facilities whenever a provider is called upon, has done a forensic exam perhaps and is called upon to testify in court. It pulls that provider away from a clinic for a half a day or a day, then we may experience decreased access to care in that given clinic. So it does place occasional burdens on us to deal with these issues but we always participate fully with the judicial system when necessary. The Chairman. I am sure everyone on this committee appreciates that. With regard to the traditional methods for restoring health and well being of Indian people, studies researched by our staff support incorporating cultural awareness into treatment methods. I understand the Indian Health Service has an agreement with the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Service Agency to promote that kind of culturally appropriate action, particularly with children's mental health services in Indian country. What type of research have you been conducting on whether that is a successful program or not? Mr. Grim. You are correct. We do have agreements going on with SAMHSA right now that have demonstrated successes in Indian country. Right now we have two Indian Health Service personnel detailed to SAMHSA, one in the Center for Substance Abuse Treatment, one in the Center for Substance Abuse Prevention to help better coordinate the resources of the two agencies going into Indian country. Specifically to the culturally appropriate care children's programs you brought up, we have something called the Circles of Care Grant Program. It is funded by SAMHSA and both IHS and SAMHSA are sharing technical assistance roles with tribes and also evaluation for the 16 tribal programs. We have been primarily providing technical assistance. SAMHSA has been providing evaluations through a contract with the University of Colorado's Health Science Center. We feel the evaluations provided thus far by Colorado have indicated a high success in helping tribal programs build the infrastructure to deal with these problems. The Chairman. Do you work with Dr. Jim Shore? Do you know that name? He is with the Medical Sciences Group at the University of Colorado but I know he has extensive background in Indian health, having worked on many reservations. I was just wondering about that. Mr. Perez. I know the name. I worked with Dr. Manson. The Chairman. Dr. Grim, I assume you also support this bill, do you not? Mr. Grim. Yes, sir; we fully support the bill. The Chairman. As with Mr. Hopper, if you can give us any suggestions on how to improve it, I would appreciate it because we are going to try to mark up the bill in October, as I mentioned. Mr. Grim. Yes, sir. The Chairman. Thank you for appearing. We will now go to our second panel which will be: Mark Lewis, director of the Guidance Center, Hopi Tribe; Garland Brunoe, chairman, Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs; and Terry Cross, executive director, National Indian Child Welfare Association from Portland. As with our previous panel, if you would like to submit your complete written testimony, that will be in the record and we will study that very carefully. If you would like to abbreviate or diverge from your written testimony, that would be fine. We will go ahead and start in the order that I mentioned with Mr. Lewis first. STATEMENT OF MARK LEWIS, DIRECTOR, GUIDANCE CENTER, HOPI TRIBE OF INDIANS Mr. Lewis. Good morning, Chairman Campbell. My name is Mark Lewis and I am the administrative director for the Hopi Guidance Center, Behavioral Health and Social Services for the Hopi Tribe. I am here as a representative of the Hopi Tribe and Chairman Wayne Taylor, Jr., who could not be here today. The tribe wanted to convey to you that we are very pleased and honored to be invited to testify on S. 1601, the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Act of 2003. Again, my name is Mark Lewis. I am a member of the Hopi Tribe, a professional social worker by trade and have been with the Guidance Center for 10 years, beginning as a mental health clinician and in the last 6 years, administering both behavioral health and social services which is responsible for child protective services and behavioral health of our tribe. The tribe wishes to describe to you our very real experience as a community and government in implementing the original act of 1990 and provide important input in advocacy that we believe will improve and strengthen this act that we believe is critical in effectively addressing child protection, child abuse prevention and treatment. We also wish to endorse the changes of the Act that Chairman Campbell has provided and we hope to provide other information that will also strengthen what you have proposed. As you may be aware, the Hopi Tribe has experienced directly the tragedy and immense pain associated with abuse of over 100 of our children, apparently beginning sometime in the last 1970's which continued until 1987 when a BIA school teacher was exposed as a prolific pedophile. As a result of this tragedy and other similar deplorable circumstances in Indian country, the original act was passed into law and became one of the primary vehicles for child protection and child abuse prevention and treatment in Indian country. We wish to convey that it also must be understood that tribes in general lacked services, programs and funding to effectively address child abuse issues prior to the passage of this act. S. 1601 will improve the act in a number of important ways. While we encourage Congress to make the changes outlined in the bill, we also ask that the Act provide adequate funding to help tribes carryout the original important functions of the act. First, the bill expands the current law's requirements for background checks to include volunteers and employees of other Federal entities beyond the Bureau and IHS. While the tribe supports this amendment, it is critical that while adding to the list of who must have a background check, actual funding must accompany not just the additions but the current background check requirements of the act. By way of background, the Hopi Tribe's law enforcement departments lack proper funding to adequately meet all of its law enforcement and investigative needs. We are still a Bureau operated law enforcement, so they lack adequate funding to properly meet all of its needs, investigative needs and investigation of child sexual abuse which many know is a specialized service. Today, the Hopi has just two investigators but that is for all of its criminal investigations across our on-reservation population of 8,000. The Hopi Guidance Center, the entity for which I am responsible, and also responsible for child protective services and mental health and substance abuse services on the Hopi Reservation has had to rely on periodic surplus from its Bureau funding base or find alternative funding streams for these background checks. There is no money coming as a result of the act to conduct these. As a governing board member, elected official of the Hopi Junior/High School they will attest as well that there is no funding to conduct the background checks on those teachers and we often rely on the surplus in order to be able to do those background checks. S. 1601 calls for the establishment of safety measures for child protection workers. We certainly support that but it is indicative of the training needs and other costs associated with implementing stronger systems and protocols and procedures in the provision of child protection and child abuse prevention as well as treatment. S. 1601 expands the definition of child abuse, mental health, emotional and well being and self esteem are important factors in the health of Indian children and children facing family violence should be able to access child abuse services. The Tribe agrees with the expanded definition. However, it is indicative of once again the need to provide adequate financial resources to investigators, to prosecutors, to courts who will see more of these cases coming through an already overcrowded door. S. 1601 replaces the feasibility study from the original act and Federal study of impediments to reducing child abuse. The feasibility study was conducted but the law doesn't reflect it. The tribe supports what you are doing with your proposal. We must study and understand the impediments to reducing abuse in order to make effective decisions at our tribal levels. S. 1601 emphasizes strengthening tribal infrastructure to develop effective tribal programs including databases for accessing current, national central registries for child abuse. The tribe supports not only this provision but the general building of administrative infrastructure in general. Management information systems and other related forms of technology must be funded as they are necessary these days and in the height of greater accountability for tribal programs to effectively administer our particular programs. While many of these wonderful mandates have come down, the BIA of Social Services which has the primary responsibility for social services in Indian country, never receives any increases as we all know. We need to be able to address those issues with this act as well as with the current provision of social services through the Bureau. In conclusion, the tribe urges the committee to move forward with the proposed amendments and also to ensure that its provisions, as well as those of the original act, receive full funding in order to meet all of these mandates. Once again, on behalf of the Hopi Tribe and Chairman Taylor, we thank you for this opportunity to present the issues and concerns of the Hopi Tribe. [Prepared statement of Mr. Taylor, Jr., appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you for appearing here. Chairman Brunoe, we will go to you now. STATEMENT OF GARLAND BRUNOE, CHAIRMAN, THE CONFEDERATED TRIBES OF THE WARM SPRINGS RESERVATION OF OREGON Mr. Brunoe. Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, good afternoon. I am Garland Brunoe, the tribal council chairman of the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs of Oregon. Our tribe thanks you for the opportunity to be here today to testify in support of S. 1601, the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Reauthorization Act of 2003. This is extremely needed legislation. The Warm Springs Tribes located in north central Oregon share many of the modern characteristics of Indian reservation life. Our communities are rural and many Indian individual dwellings are isolated. Economic opportunities are limited and unemployment and poverty rates are persistently high. Unfortunately, so too are the rates of child abuse and family violence. About 4,100 people live on the Warm Springs Reservation, 3,300 are tribal members and of them, 1,617 are younger than 18 years of age. Last year, during 2002, 402 Warm Springs children were placed under the custody of our Child Protective Services by tribal court order. This year for 2003, we project 460 of our children will be placed in CPS custody, a 14-percent increase over 2002. These numbers are very distressing and our tribe is doing all we can to try to address this problem. Because we are exempt from Public Law 280 and our reservation is almost all tribal trust land, we have exclusive jurisdiction over child welfare issues, allowing us to fashion and run a program without competing State regulations. We try to work closely with the State of Oregon and are one of the few tribes in the Nation with a tribal/State Title 4(e), Foster Care Maintenance Payment Agreement that gives us much the same footing as a State for developing and maintaining a foster program. Even with our fairly comprehensive Child Protection Service Program, key jurisdictional differences do remain. Non-Indians in our reservation with criminal child abuse charges have to be referred to the State and Federal child abuse charges require calling in the FBI. Also, the local public schools that educate our children first report signs of child abuse to the State and the State then sends them along to us. S. 1601 seeks to address these sorts of problems by requiring that non-Indians with criminal child abuse charges be reported to the State and by requiring a study of how jurisdictional differences hinder the reduction of child abuse. We also support the bill's expansion of coverage by including family violence and child abuse, allowing Indian Health Service's treatment grants for all child abuse victims and making the Justice Department a part of the Regional Resource Centers. We also applaud the clarification that tribal responsibilities under 638 contracts include cooperation and reporting on abuse cases, training child protection worker safety and improved data collection. More than anything else, the act itself and its funding must be reauthorized. Addressing child abuse and family violence is very labor intensive. Our police, our courts, our prosecutors, our youth services and our medical services are all involved but Child Protective Services must tie it together and provide a tremendous range of functions. One on one care and attention often from specialists is essential. At Warm Springs, our CPS capacity that delivers those services is severely strained if not becoming broken. We have a staff of just 15 including four cases workers who must each handle more than 110 cases a year. We need assistance almost across the board. I am sure other tribes across Indian country have similar problems. Child abuse and family violence are silent and generally out of the public eye but they are devastating to our communities. Consequences are long lasting and far reaching. This is an issue that must be addressed and passage of S. 1601 is essential to that task. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This concludes my testimony. [Prepared statement of Mr. Brunoe appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Cross. STATEMENT OF TERRY CROSS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INDIAN CHILD WELFARE ASSOCIATION, PORTLAND, OR Mr. Cross. Mr. Chairman, I am Terry Cross. I am the executive director of the National Indian Child Welfare Association located in Portland, OR. Thank you for inviting me to provide this testimony in support of reauthorization of the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Act. I am submitting full written testimony for inclusion in the record. The Chairman. Fine. Mr. Cross. The National Indian Child Welfare Association is a national, private, non-profit organization, a membership organization of tribes and tribal child welfare workers and tribal child protection workers that provides support to those workers and tribes who are providing these services in the field with training, technical assistance, advocacy and research. You mentioned in your opening remarks what we call the natural system of child protection that has existed amongst our people for generations. This historical framework still helps support our families and those sacred teachings about children being gifts of the Creator are still very central to our way of life and our extended families. If it weren't for those, this problem would be even worse than it is. In a few minutes I will come back to talking about how those natural systems can be supported. Those natural systems of child protection have been broken down in the context of substance abuse, poverty, interrupted parenting, removal and oppression and we all know that one of the major assaults on Indian people was the removal of the authority and capacity to protect our own children. I think Chief Joseph said in his remarks, ``Let me gather the children.'' Our tribal leaders of the past knew the children were at the top of the list. There is no expression of tribal sovereignty more important than the protection of your own children. What has happened historically is that the sacred authority to protect children has been limited and constricted by Federal policy. Where tribes should be the agent of statutory authority for the investigation and treatment of child abuse, instead today we have a patchwork quilt, a tangled web of complex Federal Indian policy and Federal child welfare policy that overlap to leave our children out of the configuration of services. To give you an example of some of that complexity, you heard here today that because of the Dawes Act, when reservations are checkerboarded, you sometimes need a guidebook to know who has authority to investigate which cases. Because of Public Law 280, you have to have intergovernmental agreements just to know who has jurisdiction in which cases, in which States. CAPTA, the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act that provides funding to States in this area of child abuse leaves out tribes completely. My testimony goes into depth in this area but what I want to say about this tangled web is it has a lot of consequences and serious consequences. One of those is there is no good data about child abuse in Indian country. The number you have here of 1 in 30 kids abused is the best information we have but we know that it only accounts for probably 61 percent of the cases in the country. You can add another 40 percent probably on top of that 1 in 30. Part of that untold story is the amount of this issue attributable to substance abuse. We know that at least 65 percent of child abuse cases are substance abuse related. We know when you single out the neglect cases, that goes much higher, as high as 83 percent. We also know the term child abuse lumps together several different items; neglect, child abuse and child sexual abuse, and that child neglect actually accounts for about 83 percent of those overall numbers. When you look at the relationship between child neglect, poverty and substance abuse, you start to see why we have such serious problems. In addition to that, when we are taking a look at how the numbers play out, the numbers for child sexual abuse are actually somewhat lower than mainstream society as best we can tell. The numbers for child abuse and neglect vary by community but a surprising piece of information is that most child deaths in Indian country are not the result of abuse, but are the result of neglect. Our kids are three times more likely to die of accidents than any other children in the country. The Indian Health Service has not addressed this issue at all. It is important for us to keep in mind that these statistics have important social impacts and you have heard several of those talked about, mental health, juvenile justice, family violence, and other areas. Basic to that, -is the impact on the very development of our communities themselves, the development of infrastructure, the economic development, the impact of life long suffering of children who don't get enough medical care, children who don't get treatment for serious depression or for family violence, being victims of family violence, the costs are very high. The consequence of this overlapping, tangled web I mentioned is a very confused set of jurisdictions with unclear roles and reporting problems. One of the reasons we don't have good data is because there is no central place for data to be reported. The national NCANDS database is a database that records all cases of child abuse reported to States for the purposes of tracking how many and where. Indian data does not go in there unless the State has provided the service. If the tribes have provided those services, then the data doesn't go in there. It may get reported to the Bureau of Indian Affairs but the BIA does not report to the NCANDS database and the numbers you have here on the wall come from the NCANDS database. That is why I say that 40 percent of the cases out there are not getting counted. Another problem is that children end up not getting protected. We have children in situations where there are no services, where people point at each other thinking the other one should be doing it. I want to point out that in child welfare policy, it is well known that somebody has to be responsible and the entity with statutory authority is the place for that responsibility to lie. We know from our work around the country that when tribes exercise and are empowered to exercise that statutory authority, then things happen. The tribe can negotiate those local agreements to overcome this tangled web. The tribes should be leading the child protection teams and not the Federal agencies because the Federal agencies do not have statutory authority. If the tribe doesn't want to provide the services, they should be able to delegate that authority to someone else and make that decision themselves. Again, I reiterate that there is no expression of sovereignty more important than the protection of children. That goes for both the criminal and civil side and the only meaningful solutions to the problems pointed out by Chairman Brunoe pointed out are local solutions, agreements and protocols and cross deputizations driven by strong tribal authority. That strong tribal authority only can come through funding. We need programs that are non-discretionary, that are funded to allow tribes to operate the very basics of child protection. In this very complex arena, tribes need training and technical assistance. They need to have access to culturally designed prevention and intervention strategies and those are growing around the country. Those need to be shared with one another. We also need to have the capacity to do child abuse prevention activities. Every State in the Nation has a children's trust fund that funds child abuse prevention that the Federal Government matches under CAPTA. Tribes don't have access to those dollars unless they go hat in hand to States and apply for a grant like every non-profit in a State. There needs to be a Tribal Indian Children's Trust Fund established so that tribes can do child abuse prevention. We need to clarify and simplify the background checks and support it. Right now, it is an unfunded mandate. We need to reconcile the minimum definitions in this Act with the minimum definitions in CAPTA. We support the provisions as proposed. We think S. 1601 is on the right track but we also want you to consider making sure the tribes have the funds to operate the programs. It was disappointing for me every year when I go to the Appropriations Committee and to see neither the Bureau of Indian Affairs, nor the Indian Health Service, budget requests funding for this legislation. We can't continue to have our children treated this way to have a Federal policy that says they should be protected but have it be empty and in name only on paper. Without the appropriations to follow up and provide the services, it is meaningless. Thank you. [Prepared statement of Mr. Cross appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you. Let me start with you, Mark. I was amazed that you had somebody down there that in a period of 7 or 8 years, sexually abused over 100 Hopi kids. Where is that person now? Mr. Lewis. I understand he is still in Federal prison. The Chairman. He is in prison? Mr. Lewis. Yes. The Chairman. I visited Oraibi a long time ago and I noted with great interest that those cliffs are pretty high. Too bad this man got as far as prison, he should have been thrown off the edge. Mr. Lewis. They are pretty high. The Chairman. Mr. Brunoe, I am interested in the issue of inter-governmental cooperation. We certainly need everybody we can to be involved in this. You said you had 402 kids in protective custody and it was a 14-percent increase just from last year. To what do you attribute that huge increase in a year? Mr. Brunoe. The noted increase is coming from substance abuse. The Chairman. Substance abuse. Is it the crude stuff like paint and ``canned heat,'' nail polish, things like that? Is that the problem you have at Warm Springs with substance abuse? Mr. Brunoe. I think it is the more readily available meth labs that are available now in different areas that easily put this stuff on the street. Since we live on the main highway that goes from Portland, OR, the major metropolitan and the State of Oregon, through our reservation on the way to Bend, OR, we get around 8,000 cars a day that go through our reservation. So easily some of that stuff is flowing through our reservation on the way to Bend. The Chairman. You heard Dr. Grim testify about some of the forensic exams that can be done, some of the people they have working in those areas. Are those components with the Indian Health Service been of value to your tribe when you deal with the components of child abuse? Mr. Brunoe. Not responding directly to what Dr. Grim said, we have five HIS doctors in our wellness center there, the Indian Health Service clinic and one of the doctors there has been trained on some of the equipment. She is at the point where she is overtaxed in the number of child abuse cases that need the kind of investigation that goes on. Then we need to send our children to Bend, OR for more in-depth types of review and the waiting list is about 3 to 4 months long to get a child in there, to have them see a professional. The Chairman. 3 to 4 months? Mr. Brunoe. 3 to 4 months. The Chairman. For a youngster, that is a lifetime in remembering some of the things that happened. You said each of your case workers handles 110 cases a year, about one every three days is a new case to deal with? Mr. Brunoe. Right. The Chairman. How do you balance that with ensuring the safety of the child protection workers? That is a high caseload. Mr. Brunoe. Talking to our CPS manager that runs that, they do it with a lot of overtime, work beyond your regular 8 hour days and they know they are pushed to capacity. Since the Federal funds we get for the 4(e) moneys come through the State to the tribes, we are very careful to make sure when we go through our audit from the Federal Government, that we are doing everything that is required of the Federal Government along with the State because if they find a finding, we could end up hurting the State, so the State of Oregon and the Warm Springs Tribe work closely to make sure our case reviews are done carefully, that the foster parents are qualified, that the foster homes are qualified. It also reaches to the tribal council chambers where not long ago I had a tribal member come to me who was having their grandchild removed from them because of the condition of the home and she wanted me to override that. I explained to her that if she loved her grandchild, she would go back and take care of the issue of what the court and the child protective services wanted, and that I wasn't going to, neither was the tribal council, tell them what to do and that is difficult to do. The Chairman. Did it work? Mr. Brunoe. Yes; it worked because she spent the weekend doing what they asked her to do for 4 months. The Chairman. She didn't initiate a recall, huh? Mr. Brunoe. No; not yet. The Chairman. A lot of times we think in terms of additional resources. The code word for resources, and I shouldn't say resources but the code word for money in many cases around here, as you know, and I know we are not doing a good enough job of providing enough money for a lot of the problems we have in Indian country. Is there anything you could speak to or know about that would help in this case that does not deal specifically with more Federal funding? Mr. Brunoe. Not at the moment, Mr. Chairman, but if I do, I will forward it. The Chairman. If we do a data collection reporting system, should that include training of tribal employees or would that be effective? Mr. Brunoe. That would be important because gathering the data is something that is essential to funding eventually and it stabilizes the findings which I know is lacking across Indian country. The Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Lewis, I understand the Hopi Children's Code has been a model code for many Native American communities to follow. When you set that up, did your tribe invite Federal or State agencies with any particular expertise to do that or did you do it with your own tribal resources? Mr. Lewis. The code was being developed when I was still on the line so I wasn't able to necessarily be a part of that. The Chairman. You were where? Mr. Lewis. I was still on the line providing clinical services but what I do remember is that the local Federal and tribal attorneys involved with our cases were a part of development of that code. I think it is very related to the Chairman of the Warm Springs Tribe, and that was done with tribal resources and there were no resources that the tribe had to do that. When the code was eventually passed, if you look at the written testimony provided to your office, you will see the tribe made a decision even I passed its own code, we didn't know how to necessarily enact it because we didn't have any money. We ended up doing that with our BIA Social Services funding because there was no funding to implement child protective services, part of the code, actually. I can leave the Hopi Children's Code here if you want it. We made that decision but we made that decision at the risk of impacting other important social services like services to the developmentally disabled, children and adults as well as substance abuse and chemically addicted populations. The Chairman. Chairman Brunoe said they have an average of 110 cases a year. What is the Hopi workload? Mr. Lewis. We have two CPS investigators carrying caseloads of about 30 apiece. The Chairman. Per year? Mr. Lewis. No; at any given time. The issue with that is that child protective services is a rather burdensome process, so our efficiency is not as good as it could be because we simply need more child protective services workers, in addition to just trying to handle the ICWA cases that come to our agency which we don't have a worker which we are working on developing. The Chairman. Based on your experience with what is considered a model of this children's code, has your relationship in working with Federal agencies been good? Mr. Lewis. I like to believe that we at the Hopi Guidance Center have really good relations with our State and a lot of that has to do with approaching the States with a certain attitude but that doesn't mean there aren't certain barriers within the States. What I have found in my dealings with the State is they didn't know how to work with tribes and when they were willing and ready to work with tribes, they haven't done enough of it so we had to really form a good collaboration. We are also the only tribe in Arizona to have a 4(e) agreement with our State. We are assuming the TANF program under the guidance center with our State. We are also a mental health provider with our State system as well as a Medicaid provider, so we have pretty good experience working with the State but it hasn't come without its barriers because they simply don't know how to work well with tribes. The Chairman. That is rather surprising considering the number of tribes in Arizona and the long history of Indian people since there has been a State of Arizona. Based on your experience, have there been any particular Federal barriers to what you are trying to do? Mr. Lewis. As you mentioned before, one of them is having the unfunded mandate so that puts us in the position of trying to be as creative as possible. One of the ways we have done that by obtaining resources like through the State mental health system and through being very creative and strategic with our funding that does come down from the Bureau and how we utilize our surplus but that's certainly been a challenge. I think related to what the chairman and particularly what my colleague, Terry Cross mentioned, you mentioned a good point about is funding the answer to everything. Well, it is the answer to a lot of things but not everything. When a lot of this legislation has come down, we don't believe as a tribe, and it is in our written testimony, that enough clarity is provided to the Bureau and the IHS in helping to work together collaboratively to make these Acts happen. These are two of the major and primary overseers of services and regulation in Indian country and they are still not in a position where they are collaborating and sharing information as well as they should be. It is wonderful to see my colleagues, Dr. Grim and Dr. Perez who I know very well, Larry Blair and these folks here sitting at the table but that is not indicative of how it is day in and day out at our levels, the Bureau and the IHS communicating and collaborating together and encouraging the sharing of Federal resources. There is simply not enough of that coming from those entities. The Chairman. Dr. Grim is listening very intently back there, I notice. This bill, S. 1601, requires a study of the impediments to reducing child abuse in Indian communities. Your testimony certainly supports this idea. What role do you envision the tribes playing in the study? Mr. Lewis. There are a couple things I see as the role of the tribes being involved in the study. One of them is to act as a principal, if you will, to be able to help guide what some of the research issues are and we are providing an ongoing role in the consultation or any sorts of committees that you usually have when you are doing studies and evaluations. I also think some money needs to come now to encourage tribes and encourage the Bureau and the IHS to allow tribes to be creative in how they can develop better and more expanded programs to meet the specific needs of its population and the problems we are seeing associated with child abuse. The Chairman. I have many Hopi friends and have visited a few times down there. They are very, very traditional people, very in tuned with their religious beliefs. Do you feel that culturally sensitive programs are effective in assisting Indian children and their families, especially in dealing with sensitive issues like violence and abuse? Mr. Lewis. Certainly I agree and the provision that you are proposing in your legislation is important in all Federal programming that they take into account the cultural ways and mores and that they allow that as part of the regulation of those particular programs, not just with these particular programs and providing access to traditional healing but also if you look at the child welfare laws, the Federal legislation that comes down to our level, the Bureau only more recently has yet to take into consideration the family and kinship system and allowing that as a way for us to provide effective child welfare, mental health and substance abuse services. We are sometimes limited in the usage of our funding because they haven't fully taken into account our kinship system. By that, I mean about 95 percent of Hopi children moved from their homes are placed within relative homes or clan homes, if you will. Sometimes the Bureau won't allow us to provide funding to help provide food for that family because that is not ``under the Federal regulations.'' They have to be licensed as a foster home. Those are some of the ways where we need to allow the cultural practices to be allowed to be part of our actual day to day practice and that the funds follow that. The Chairman. There is no appeal or something that can be addressed in dealing with that problem, that they are not licensed as a home but they are still related and want to take care of those kids? Mr. Lewis. I am sure if Chairman Taylor was here, he would laugh and say that is why we sent Mark up here to kind of rebel rouse and I am sure my colleagues from the Bureau and IHS can attest to that. They are tired of hearing me at the regional levels. The Chairman. I am not tired of hearing it, I think it is a very good point. Mr. Lewis. So simultaneously I think our strategy is to come here and continue to advocate that but on behalf of our kids, we have done our best effort to try and encourage and influence families, the relative caretakers, to go ahead and get the foster care license even though they don't want it. They just want to take care of their kin but we have had to work very hard to encourage them to just get licensed so we can provide you with some funding. We will continue to advocate these issues here as well. The Chairman. Is it difficult to get licensed? Mr. Lewis. Sometimes it is and you have to go through a number of background checks and families just want to take care of their kids and need money to help pay for food. I those are wonderful questions I am glad you asked. If you look in our written testimony, to bring home the point of social services, people have forgotten, at least for Arizona, 638 tribes are the primary funder, the primary regulator of child welfare services. They have come out with these new regulations in 2000. The problem is in theory, they are okay but they never consulted Indian Health Services and never consulted Bureau of Education and they are requiring us to have all those people help fund a portion of a child's cost if they have to go into residential treatment but those regulations are not binding on IHS, nor are they binding on Education and both will tell you they have no money, yet we are still out of compliance with the Bureau because of those specific social services regulations. Again, it is an example of a lack of meaningful consultation and collaboration between those three entities and then imposing it on tribal programs such as ours. It is very difficult to be in compliance with those. The money, we can't use it. The Chairman. That means in some cases a youngster would be taken out of the family and would be put into a home as a first priority but the family that would want to take care of him often cannot? I am not a child psychologist but it wouldn't seem to me that is in the best interest of the child. Mr. Lewis. It is not in the best interest of the child but sometimes it is in the best interest of the child to put somebody in a professional treatment facility because the extended family are kin that are willing to take them in are maybe as dysfunctional as the family they come from. That is where it is key and it is critical. The Chairman. Thank you for that insight. Terry, thank you for your testimony. In your written testimony, your concerns related to the data reporting of child abuse and neglect and recommended technical assistance provided in this area. From your perspective, what infrastructure do tribes need to develop an effective reporting and data collecting system? Mr. Cross. First of all, it is access or the capability to have a management information system to track and record that information and then report it so the development of technology. Also, the technical assistance with which to develop their own fields for those management information systems, the words they use for how they are defining abuse and neglect or how they are defining family an all those are things that have to be developed locally but in a framework that can be translated to a central database. We are working on a project funded by ACF to demonstrate with five tribes how that can be done. The Chairman. You say in your testimony that about 61 percent of the incidents are reported to a national database. Is that correct? Mr. Cross. Those are the cases that make it into the NCANDS database through the State systems. The Chairman. So you do support having Indian children reported to the NCANDS database? Mr. Cross. I do because that is the central database that measures trends nationally. To create a system parallel to that would be one more layer. It is an ongoing, funded program in the Federal Government that Indian tribes should have access to just like States. The Chairman. You are from Portland, correct? Mr. Cross. That's right. The Chairman. Are there data available to the extent of Indian kids living in Portland, urban Indian kids? Mr. Cross. There is not good data available for urban Indian children. There is a tremendous under count in the urban centers largely because Indian children are often not identified even for purposes of ICWA in State systems. The Chairman. Also, in your testimony you mention that some tribes have a memoranda of understanding with Federal and State agencies to ensure that all appropriate agencies respond to incidents of child abuse. Do most in your State have that agreement? Mr. Cross. They do. As I mentioned the local protocol agreements, when you have a reservation that is checkerboarded or where you in a 280-State and there is the sharing of jurisdiction, there are tribal police, county sheriffs and the FBI, if those agencies don't come together, put down on paper and sit down at the table together and discuss who is going to do what when, historically cases of abused children just fall through the cracks and nobody responded. Unfortunately there is not enough of those agreements because they are complex to put together and they end up being caught up in other kinds of politics like water rights, taxation or just getting people to sit down at the table with one another to work out those things can be very difficult. The Chairman. In some cases, we have looked into trying to consolidate Federal programs to decrease duplication to get a better result for the money we have appropriated. Are there any other Federal programs that you think could be a model that would be applicable to abuse, neglect, alcoholism related problems that we could look at here? Mr. Cross. Earlier you mentioned resources in your questions. One of the major issues is if we just had access to the entitlements that all children have, title 4(e) being the major one. As you know, we have a bill pending right now to get tribes direct access to Title 4(e). That would be the biggest thing to happen to tribal child welfare since the Indian Child Welfare Act. It would provide resources to tribes and those tribes who have agreements are tapping into those resources somewhat but many tribes only get the foster care payment and don't get the caseworker dollars, don't get the recordkeeping dollars, don't get the training dollars associated with 4(e). If that alone was corrected, it would make a huge dent in this. The formula distribution of funds under CAPTA to States is very small. I understand recently two States turned back their money because the mandates were too stringent for them to take for $200,000. I think HHS ought to give any money turned back by States to the tribes to do prevention work. The major concern I would have in consolidating funding across programs is that when it is child abuse and neglect, you have to be careful to ensure the provision of that service for children and somehow protect those dollars from being drained off into other important priorities of the tribe. One of the ways in general that the Federal Government enforces policy is through its power of the purse strings and saying you can have this money if you, meet certain conditions. As a child advocate, I need to say it is important to say to everyone, you can have these Federal dollars if you protect your children. I want to make sure in any creative solutions we come to, that those services currently available and any future services might be available for children are protected in some way. The Chairman. I think that is all the questions I have. Other members may have questions and they will submit them in writing to you. Senator Inouye probably does. I appreciate your being here and as I told the first witnesses, if you have some suggestions on how we can improve this bill--and we have been jotting down a few of them that we got from your testimony today--I certainly would appreciate your supplying them. We are going to keep open the record for about 2 weeks and if you could forward any suggestions to us, we are going to try to mark this bill up in October as I mentioned. Thank you so much for being here and the committee is adjourned. [Whereupon, at 3:10 p.m., the committee was adjourned, to reconvene at the call of the Chair.] ======================================================================= A P P E N D I X ---------- Additional Material Submitted for the Record ======================================================================= Prepared Statement of Hon. Daniel K. Inouye, U.S. Senator from Hawaii, Vice Chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs I am pleased to join my chairman today in receiving testimony on a bill to reauthorize the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Act. Surely, there can be no more precious resource than our children. It is essential that we work together to assure that the children of Indian country are protected from abuse, and that we continue to improve upon our data collection efforts as well as our ability to track those who have abused children in the past and who are looking for havens in Indian country, so that we may 1 day be able to eliminate this scourge from the lives of those we hold so dear. I am glad to see that the departments who will present testimony to the committee today support the reauthorization of this important act. ______ Prepared Statement of Garland Brunoe, Chairman, Confederated Tribes of the Warm Springs Reservation of Oregon Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, I am Garland Brunoe, chairman of the tribal council of the Confederated Tribes of the Warm Springs Reservation of Oregon. Thank you for the opportunity to testify today in support of S. 1601, the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Reauthorization Act of 2003. In presenting this testimony, I would like to acknowledge Warm Springs Tribal Judge Lola Sohappy, who is very involved in child welfare on our reservation, an active member of the National Indian Child Welfare Association, and who has been communicating with your staff regarding this legislation. The 650,000 acre Warm Springs Reservation in north Central Oregon is the home of about 3,287 of our 4,160 tribal members. Additionally we estimate about 950 non-members also reside on our reservation. Within our residential population, 1,617 of our tribal members, or close to 40 percent, are younger than 18 years old. Like many reservations, our communities are rural, and individual residences are often isolated. Economic opportunities are limited, and unemployment and poverty are well above national averages by almost any measure. So, too, are substance abuse and violence, including family violence. When much of your population is young, that violence all too often involves children. Unfortunately, this applies at Warm Springs. In 2002, 402 Warm Springs children were placed in custody of Warm Springs Child Protection Services [CPS] by tribal court order. This is 25 percent of all our children. For 2003, we project 460 children will be in the custody of CPS, a 14-percent increase from 2002. Our tribe is doing all we can to address this very serious issue. While our basic capacity in this field is strained, we are trying to make use of our unique circumstances. Our population is not large, and because Warm Springs is exempt for Public Law 280 and our reservation is almost a solid block of tribal trust land, we exercise exclusive jurisdiction over our tribal child welfare cases. We have our own Child Protective Services agency, and do not have to rely on the State for case management, investigations, and other services. Without the competing demands of State regulation, we 1 are able to craft our policies and actions in a manner that is sensitive to the needs of our own community. While we exercise our own jurisdiction, we do try to work closely with the State of Oregon. Warm Springs is one of the few tribes nationwide that has developed a tribal-State title IV-e foster care maintenance payment agreement with the State of Oregon that allows the tribe to receive Federal funds for maintenance payments for children placed in foster care. The agreement also allows the tribe to receive an administrative match for services, training, and associated expenses for children qualifying for IV-e support. This allows the tribe to participate on the same footing as a State in developing and maintaining a foster care program for tribal children rather than placing them in the custody of the state for these services. Warm Springs still has an array of jurisdictional issues with which we must deal. Criminal child abuse actions by non-Indians must be addressed by the State. When Federal crimes are specifically identified, be they Indian or non-Indian related, the Federal Bureau of Investigation must be called in. And because Warm Springs children attend local public schools, any child abuse or neglect issues identified there are reported first to, the county, and only thereafter to our Child Protective Services or the Warm Springs Police Department. Jurisdictional issues are complicated and not easy to resolve, but improved communication and coordination can help. Accordingly, we strongly support section 4 of S. 1601, which would require tribes to report non-Indians to State law enforcement agencies in abuse or family violence occurrences where a criminal violation is indicated. For similar reasons, we also support section 5, directing a study of impediments to the reduction of child abuse, including intergovernmental and Jurisdictional impediments. We strongly support the various ways in which the act is expanded. Section 3 extends the ``child abuse'' definition to children subjected to family violence. Section 6 includes Federal and tribal contract and volunteer personnel in background checks, and makes those investigations tougher. Section 7 extends applicability of IHS treatment grants to all child abuse victims, not just sexual abuse victims. And the addition of the Department of Justice in the staffing and operation of the Regional Resource Centers, as provided in section 8, will advance communication, cooperation, and successful prosecution of child abuse matters. The clarification and extension of responsibilities are also applied to tribes, which we agree is essential. Section 9 requires that tribes operating their own Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention program under a contract from the BIA must clearly designate responsibility for child abuse case coordination and reporting, and for the treatment and prevention of child abuse. The section further helps tribally operated programs by authorizing tribes to provide training for any required child protection certifications, to help ensure the safety of child protection workers while on the job, and to improve data systems for case and program monitoring and evaluation. Annual tribal program reports to the Interior Secretary would also have to include information on training, threats to worker safety, and community outreach and awareness efforts. But more than anything else, the overall reauthorization of the Indian Child Protection and Family Violence Prevention Act, and its funding, is essential. Child abuse and family violence continue to devastate Indian communities. Because these problems tend to occur in private and the victims are frightened and silent, they do not attract much public attention. But their consequences are far reaching and long lasting. At Warm Springs, as I noted earlier, children in custody of our Child Protection Services this year are projected to increase by 14 percent from 2002. For last year, 2002, our Police Department reported 338 child abuse and 50 family violence cases opened for investigation for criminal charges, an increase of 29 percent from 2001 for these two types of violence. I should note that some of this increase should be attributable to improved data collection started in 2002. But in any event, whether the real increase might have been 10 percent or 15 percent or more, the fact remains we experienced a significant jump in the level of child abuse and family violence. At least at Warm Springs, and most probably nationwide, child protection and family violence prevention absolutely requires increased attention and assistance. Because child abuse and family violence are often hidden from view and their consequences can be so personal and profound, child protection and the prevention of associated family violence is very labor intensive. Abused or neglected children require attentive and careful handling. Their family situations can often be explosive. At Warm Springs, in addition to our Child Protective Services agency, child protective activities significantly involve the tribal police, the tribal court, tribal prosecution, community services, and medical personnel including mental health practitioners and physicians experienced in child abuse forensics. But the leading agency that ties these diverse function together is Child Protective Services. CPS has a multi-faceted and complicated task. It must investigate child abuse charges, it must remove children, it must temporarily shelter abused children, and find short term and long term foster residences, which must be monitored. Currently, Warm Springs CPS maintains 40 foster homes. CPS must provide for the direct needs of the child, including medical, counseling, and treatment needs, the child's clothing and education, and even, if needed, transportation to appointments. And CPS is also responsible for working to reunite the family, including all family counseling activities. CPS must be engaged with the prosecution of child abuse-related criminal charges. And throughout all this, they must meet rigorous reporting requirements. At Warm Springs, where CPS will have a projected 460 children under its custody this year, the regular CPS staff totals about 15 personnel, including 4 case workers, each of whom must handle more than 110 cases a year. We also engage seven full time Protective Care Providers to operate our 24 hour Emergency Shelter. Clearly, our child protection capacity at Warm Springs desperately needs attention and assistance, almost across the board. But based on our own circumstance, areas of particular need include an additional Warm Springs police investigator and tribal prosecutor to develop and try solid child abuse cases against adults. We need improved access to examinations and forensic interviewing in sexual abuse cases, and because of the traumatic nature of child abuse, mental health and follow-on care need to be significantly expanded. Juvenile Services needs support. And we need training for our CPS staff. We also need a means of capturing and interpreting data. Mr. Chairman, this is a long list just from our tribe. But it serves to highlight the level of attention that Indian child protection and family violence prevention needs nationwide. S. 1601 is an essential step in meeting that challenge, and the Warm Springs Tribes support it and urge the committee to approve it. Thank you. That concludes my testimony. I shall be pleased to respond to any questions. 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