Gasser - Some Tribes in the south will not give out TCP information. Ferguson
- Hard to fit TCP into 106, not good. Mold not right.
Laidlaw - No law protection for religious cultural sites. Also areas of
religious practices. Rights infringement. Different process. How register site
depends upon Keepers ideals on property.
Gasser - Quality of information given out by tribes varies so widely.
People do not know whom they are contacting.
Anyon - Development going on not of value to tribe, but asked to comment.
Degree of comment could be significant to tribe’s survival. Lot of give! If
federal agencies could accept that a piece of land is important, and go with
that statement.
Rosenberg - Avoidance is BEST, but not always the case. Do need information
to best handle situations.
Jackson - Conflict of values and systems. Feds say do it this way, Tribes
say our way. Now tribes have to talk about things of a confidential nature.
Feds not satisfied with answers. Feds still want more. System not working.
Takes a lot of consultation. Really want to remove cultural gaps. Could lose
cultural identity. Feels that federal agencies do not want to lose land
control. Advisory Council should have something in there on tribal
participation as a full participatory member. (Changed tape missed some). For
three years beginnings of a cultural preservation program. Theft sacred sites
are those that are archaeological. Beginning to understand laws and how to
cope. Hope to have a working relationship with various federal agencies. Good
for each other in a number of ways. Each has a responsibility in own
parameters, but tribes have a more holistic approach.
Rosenberg - Project on Forest (Tonto). Hopi asked to be a consultant. Scott
said no. So as to Jackson’s comments where are your claims? This is often long
term planning, and often long term planning is not available. Jackson’s
comments back: Consult with elders who may know about a particular area. Lot
of land on reservation on private holdings, also burial lands.
Anyon - Issues of conflict of values and how world perceived as a cultural
resource, natural resource. This often not addressed in consultation. Usually
go after archaeological sites and TCP (which may not have a definite spot on
the ground). Do not take plants, and animals into consideration.
Dongoske - Federal Agencies recognize Tribes when beneficial! If not does
not exist as a sovereign nation. Only deal with reservation lands, but need to
do some for off reservation areas of tribal interest.
Canouts - Tribe do appear as equal partners at the high decision making
ends of things.