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I'M DR. JIM HUGHES, DIRECTOR OF CDC'S NATIONAL CENTER FOR INFECTIOUS DISEASES. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN TO THIS BROADCAST. WE ARE NOW TWO MONTHS INTO THE INVESTIGATION OF THE SARS OUTBREAK. WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS, BUT MUCH WORK REMAINS TO BE DONE TO ADDRESS THIS EMERGING GLOBAL MICROBIAL THREAT. TODAY'S BROADCAST DEALS WITH PREVENTING THE SPREAD OF SARS. THE WORLD RESPONSE TO SARS HAS BEEN REMARKABLE IN BOTH SPEED AND ORGANIZATION.  WE HAVE EXPERIENCED UNPRECEDENTED GLOBAL COLLABORATION, WITH THE W.H.O. AND HEALTH MINISTRIES OF MANY COUNTRIES LEADING THE WAY. IN THE UNITED STATES, WE HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE CLOSE COOPERATION OF PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS AT THE NATIONAL, STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS. IN THIS CLIMATE OF SCIENTIFIC TRANSPARENCY AND COOPERATION, WE HAVE SEEN THE DISCOVERY OF THE GENETIC CODING OF A PREVIOUSLY UNRECOGNIZED CORONAVIRUS.  LABORATORY TESTS ARE WELL ALONG IN DEVELOPMENT FOR USE AS PUBLIC HEALTH TOOLS.  TOGETHER, WE'VE ESTABLISHED GUIDELINES AND POLICIES FOR SURVEILLANCE AND INFECTION CONTROL, INCLUDING TIMELY TRAVEL ALERTS AND ADVISORIES.  WE'VE RECOGNIZED AND RESPONDED TO THE NEED FOR OUTREACH TO AFFECTED COMMUNITIES, TO REDUCE STIGMA, AND ENCOURAGE RATIONAL RESPONSES TO THE SARS THREAT.  WE HAVE ALSO LEARNED VALUABLE LESSONS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES'EXPERIENCE IN CONTROLLING THE THREAT OF SARS.  THIS BROADCAST IS THE LATEST IN A SERIES ON SARS. EARLIER PRESENTATIONS FOCUSED ON RECOGNIZING SARS AND IMPLEMENTING INFECTION CONTROL MEASURES. TODAY'S BROADCAST DELVES MORE DEEPLY INTO STRATEGIES AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL - ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE.THESE STRATEGIES HAVE BEEN USED TO VARYING DEGREES IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES TO CONTROL SARS.TODAY'S DISCUSSION COVERS THE CDC GUIDELINES, INCLUDING LEGAL ASPECTS AND THE LOCAL IMPACT OF QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION STRATEGIES.

 

IN ADDITION, FROM TORONTO, YOU WILL HEAR A DISCUSSION OF FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE WITH IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE DISEASE-CONTAINMENT STRATEGIES. AS WE SEE IT, RECOGNIZING AND RESPONDING TO NEW AND REEMERGING MICROBIAL THREATS REQUIRE A

GLOBAL EFFORT IN WHICH INTERNATIONAL COLLABORATION IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL AND

MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.THANK YOU FOR SHARING IN THIS IMPORTANT WORK AND FOR JOINING

THIS BROADCAST TODAY.

 

HELLO, EVERYONE.

I'M KYSA DANIELS. WELCOME TO PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS FOR

SEVERE ACUTE RESPIRATORY SYNDROME, OR SARS. WE ARE COMING TO YOU LIVE FROM

THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA.

THE GOAL OF TODAY'S PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY INFORMATION AND GUIDANCE ON CONTAINMENT OF SARS. WE HAVE FOUR KEY OBJECTIVES.

BY THE END OF THE PROGRAM, WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO, NUMBER ONE, DESCRIBE KEY STRATEGIES FOR CONTAINING THE SPREAD OF SARS, TWO, EXPLAIN THE CURRENT

GUIDELINES FOR INSTITUTING QUARANTINE AND/OR ISOLATION STRATEGY, THREE, DETERMINE APPROPRIATE ACTION STEPS NEEDED TO CARRY OUT SARS-RELATED

ISOLATION OR QUARANTINE MEASURES. AND FINALLY, DETERMINE APPROPRIATE SUPPORT SYSTEMS NEEDED TO CARRY OUT SARS-RELATED ISOLATION OR QUARANTINE MEASURES.

IF YOU'RE HAVING TECHNICAL TROUBLE RECEIVING OUR SIGNAL, YOU CAN CALL US HERE AT CDC AND THE NUMBER TO DIAL IS 800-728-8232.

 

CONTINUING EDUCATION CREDIT WILL BE OFFERED FOR A VARIETY OF PROFESSIONS BASED ON ONE HOUR OF INSTRUCTION. A CERTIFICATE OF CREDIT OR A CERTIFICATE OF ATTENDANCE WILL BE AWARDED TO PARTICIPANTS WHO COMPLETE THE EVALUATION.

AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCLOSURE, TODAY'S SPEAKERS HAVE STATED THEY HAVE NO

FINANCIAL INTEREST OR OTHER RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS OR SERVICES. I'LL GIVE YOU MORE REGISTRATION INFORMATION LATER IN THE

BROADCAST. DURING THE DAY OF THE BROADCAST, MAY 20th, 2003, QUESTIONS CAN BE

SUBMITTED TO OUR PANELISTS VIA TELEPHONE AT 800-793-8598, TTY AT 800-815-8152

OR YOU CAN FAX YOUR QUESTIONS TO 800-553-6323. LET'S BEGIN TODAY'S BROADCAST BY WELCOMING OUR PANEL.WE HAVE WITH US DR. JOHN JERNIGAN, GENE MATTHEWS, DR. MARTY CETRON, DR. ART LIANG AND FROM TORONTO, CANADA, DR. COLIN D'CUNHA. WELCOME TO EACH OF YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS DR. MARTY CETRON, WHO IS DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR GLOBAL MIGRATION HERE AT CDC WHO WILL DISCUSS SARS CONTAINMENT STRATEGIES.

 

WELCOME TO YOU AGAIN, DR. CETRON. THANK YOU. QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION ARE ANCIENT TOOLS USED TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF CONTAGIONS. “QUARANTINE” DERIVES FROM THE 40 DAYS THE SHIPS WERE REQUIRED TO STAY AT HARBOR BEFORE DISEMBARKATION TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF PLAGUE. QUARANTINE HAS BEEN USED FOR CENTURIES, BUT NOT MUCH IN THE MODERN ERA.WE MUST BE COGNIZANT OF THE HISTORICAL LESSONS OF QUARANTINE INCLUDING ITS MISUSE AND MISAPPLICATION, ITS UNETHICAL USE AND DISCRIMINATION. THESE LESSONS WE NEED TO REMEMBER AS WE USE THESE TOOLS AGAIN TO CONFRONT A 21st CENTURY EPIDEMIC, SARS. I WOULD LIKE TO START BY PROVIDING DEFINITIONS. THE TERM “ISOLATION” REFERS TO THE RESTRICTION OF MOVEMENT AND A SEPARATION OF SICK, INFECTED PERSONS WITH A CONTAGIOUS DISEASE. WHILE THIS USUALLY OCCURS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS IN A HOSPITAL SETTING, IT MAY ALSO OCCUR AT HOME OR IN A DEDICATED ISOLATION FACILITY. QUARANTINE, ON THE OTHER HAND, REFERS TO THE RESTRICTION OF MOVEMENT OR SEPARATION OF WELL PERSONS, PRESUMED EXPOSED TO A CONTAGIOUS DISEASE. THIS CAN USUALLY OCCUR AT HOME, BUT ALSO MAY BE IN A DEDICATED QUARANTINE FACILITY, AND IT, TOO, CAN BE APPLIED ON AN INDIVIDUAL

OR A POPULATION LEVEL.I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT QUARANTINE MEASURES AND ISOLATION MEASURES ARE USUALLY UNDERTAKEN IN A VOLUNTARY

MANNER. BUT THEY CAN BE MANDATORY OR COMPULSORY. THE LEGAL QUARANTINE AUTHORITIES ON THE OTHER HAND, COVER BOTH PUBLIC HEALTH TOOLS OF ISOLATION

AND QUARANTINE. SO FAR, FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CONTAINMENT OF SARS, WE HAVE

SEEN THE THREE MEASURES SHOWN HERE ON THIS SLIDE APPLIED IN VARYING DEGREES. IN EACH INSTANCE, COUNTRIES HAVE CHOSEN TO ISOLATE SYMPTOMATIC INDIVIDUALS IN A COMMUNICABLE PHASE OF THEIR DISEASE. THIS HAS FREQUENTLY BEEN DONE IN

DEDICATED SARS HOSPITALS, OR SARS WARDS IN PARTICULAR HOSPITALS. BUT ISOLATION CAN ALSO OCCUR AT HOME FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT SICK ENOUGH TO BE IN A HOSPITAL, OR

CAN OCCUR AT HOME DURING A RECOVERY PERIOD WHEN THE ILLNESS HAS RESOLVED TO THE DEGREE THAT IT NO LONGER REQUIRES HOSPITALIZATION, BUT STILL MAY BE COMMUNICABLE.QUARANTINE HAS ALSO BEEN APPLIED IN MANY INTERNATIONAL COUNTRIES

FOR THE CONTAINMENT OF SARS.THIS IS MEANT DURING CONTACT TRACING FOR CLOSE CONTACTS OF FOLKS WHO ARE STILL ASYMPTOMATIC BUT IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH SARS

CASES.QUARANTINE HAS BEEN USED BOTH AT HOME AND IN DEDICATED RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES. DURING THE PERIOD OF QUARANTINE MOST CASES ARE UNDER CLOSE FEVER

SURVEILLANCE AND BEING CHECKED UP REGULARLY BY PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS.

A THIRD AND IMPORTANT STRATEGY FOR CONTAINMENT OF SARS APPLIES TO THE COMMUNITY CONTROL MEASURES, WHICH ARE GENERALLY TARGETED TO DECREASE SOCIAL INTERACTION AND SOCIAL CONTACTS.THESE HAVE INCLUDED THE CANCELLATION OF PUBLIC

GATHERINGS, CLOSURE OF SCHOOLS AND WORKPLACES, AND CANCELLATION OF LARGE SPORTING EVENTS.IN ADDITION, TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN USED AS A

LARGE-SCALE COMMUNITY MEASURE TO LIMIT THE TRANSLOCATION OF SARS CASES TO OTHER COUNTRIES. SOME OF THE NEXT SLIDES SHOW SOME PICTURES OF THE WAY

ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE HAVE BEEN USED. IN SOME CASES, THERE HAS BEEN A

VERY DRAMATIC REACTION, AND THE EPIDEMIC OF FEAR SOMETIMES EXCEEDS THE ACTUAL EPIDEMIC OF DISEASE.A PICTURE HERE SHOWS WHAT SOME MAY CONSIDER EXCESSIVE

TECHNIQUES TO ISOLATE A PATIENT IN INDIA WITH SARS.

IN ADDITION, BECAUSE QUARANTINE AS A TOOL AND SARS AS A DISEASE HAVE NOT REALLY COME TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME, THERE IS THE EXPECTED LARGE AMOUNT OF MEDIA

ATTENTION AND INTEREST FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ISOLATED OR UNDER QUARANTINE, AS DEPICTED HERE IN THIS SLIDE. AND WE MUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO STIGMATIZE THOSE IN

QUARANTINE THROUGH THE FASCINATION OF THE MEDIA. I THINK ONE OF THE MOST

IMPORTANT LESSONS THAT WE CAN TAKE HOME FROM THIS SATELLITE CONFERENCE IS THAT QUARANTINE AS A PUBLIC HEALTH TOOL REPRESENTS A COLLECTIVE ACTION FOR THE

COMMON GOOD, AND REPRESENTS A DELICATE BALANCE FOR PUBLIC GOOD ON THE ONE HAND AND CIVIL LIBERTIES ON THE OTHER. ONE OF THE LESSONS OF HISTORY FROM QUARANTINE IS THAT 21st CENTURY APPLICATION OF THIS TOOL REQUIRES OUR PARAMOUNT CONCERN

TO MEET THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS INFECTED AND THOSE EXPOSED INSIDE THE RING OF QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION. IT IS OUR ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITY TO SEPARATE THE SICK FROM THE EXPOSED, WHICH HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE IN THE USE OF

QUARANTINE IN ANCIENT TIMES. WE MUST DISTINGUISH CASES THAT ARE PROBABLE CASES FROM THOSE THAT ARE SUSPECT, FROM THOSE THAT ARE POSSIBLE EARLY IN

THEIR DISEASE EVOLUTION AND AGAIN SEPARATE THE EXPOSED WELL PERSONS SO THAT WE DON'T INADVERTENTLY CAUSE INCREASED TRANSMISSION IN THE QUARANTINE RING. WE ALSO MUST BE ABLE TO EVALUATE AND RAPIDLY TRIAGE AND MOVE PEOPLE BETWEEN THESE SEGMENTS.WE NEED TO MEET NOT ONLY THE MEDICAL NEEDS OF THOSE IN QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION, BUT ALSO THEIR GENERAL HUMAN NEEDS, FEEDING, CARING AND SHELTERING,-- OF THOSE UNDER ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE WHO ARE SACRIFICING THEIR OWN FREEDOMS OF MOVEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD. AND FINALLY, AS WE'LL HEAR LATER IN THE BROADCAST, IT IS KEY TO PREVENT STIGMATIZATION THAT QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION CAN SOMETIMES ENTAIL. IT IS NOTABLE THAT ON APRIL 4th, PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH ADDED SARS TO THE LIST OF THE SEVEN OTHER QUARANTINEABLE DISEASES FOR WHICH OUR CURRENT QUARANTINE

LAWS IN THE UNITED STATES ALLOW THE RESTRICTION OF HUMAN MOVEMENT.THE OTHER SEVEN DISEASES ARE SHOWN IN THE TOP OF THIS SLIDE.I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE BASIC PRINCIPLES AND CONCEPTS OF THE EPIDEMIC DYNAMICS AND WHY ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE CAN BE SUCH EFFECTIVE TOOLS AT QUENCHING AN EPIDEMIC. THE GOAL IS TO REACH A REPRODUCTIVE RATE THAT IS LESS THAN ONE, SO THE EPIDEMIC WILL EXTINGUISH ITSELF.THERE ARE TWO SITUATIONS IN WHICH THE UTILITY OF QUARANTINE CAN BE FOUND IN ACCOMPLISHING THIS GOAL.THE FIRST IS MOST COMMONLY

THOUGHT OF, AND THAT IS, IF PEOPLE ARE CONTAGIOUS DURING THEIR ASYMPTOMATIC INCUBATION PERIOD. IN THIS CASE, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT ONE MAY NEED TO ISOLATE OR QUARANTINE THE ASYMPTOMATIC EXPOSED FOLKS, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A RISK OF SPREADING DISEASE TO OTHERS. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER SITUATION IN WHICH QUARANTINE CAN BE EFFECTIVE, AND THIS IS SHOWN IN THIS SLIDE BY LOOKING AT THE

PERIOD OF COMMUNICABILITY IN RED, AND THE PROPAGATION THAT'S IN PINK.

HOW RAPIDLY CAN WE ACTUALLY ISOLATE SYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE? HOW RAPIDLY CAN WE IDENTIFY THEM, RECOGNIZE THEM, AND ISOLATE THEM APPROPRIATELY SO THAT THEY NO

LONGER POSE A RISK FOR SECONDARY SPREAD? IF THIS TIME IS PROLONGED, THEN

SIMPLFY COMMUNICABILITY CAN CAUSE A LOT OF SECONDARY SPREAD AND ESCALATE THE EPIDEMIC.CONTACT TRACING AND QUARANTINE OF PEOPLE FOR ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE OF

FEVER IN THIS PERIOD CAN ALLOW THAT PERIOD OF RISK FOR EPIDEMIC PROPAGATION TO BE REDUCED TO ZERO, SO THAT THE MINUTE THE PERSON BECOMES SYMPTOMATIC AND

COMMUNICABLE, THEY WILL ALREADY BE ISOLATED FROM OTHERS.  THIS SHORTENS THE PERIOD OF RISK AND SERVES TO QUENCH THE EPIDEMIC. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE FRAMEWORK THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED FOR ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE MEASURES AS THEY'VE BEEN USED IN THE CONTAINMENT OF SARS WORLDWIDE. ONE WILL NOTE THAT, DEPENDING ON

THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE EPIDEMIC, INDIVIDUAL COUNTRIES HAVE FOUND THEMSELVES AT

DIFFERENT LEVELS IN THE DEGREES OF ESCALATING RESTRICTION OF MOVEMENT. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS THE INDIVIDUAL CASE RESPONSE.  AS WE MENTIONED, THIS HAS

LARGELY INVOLVED THE ISOLATION OF INFECTED INDIVIDUALS ONCE THEY FIRST SHOW SIGNS OF SYMPTOMS. AND ALSO, THE MONITORING AND ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE OF ASYMPTOMATIC CONTACTS, THROUGH CONTACT TRACING. BUT ON A POPULATION LEVEL, ONE CAN IMAGINE A SERIES OF RESTRICTED MOVEMENTS THAT INCREASE IN THEIR RESTRICTIONS  AS THE NEED OF THE EPIDEMIC DICTATES. SOME OF THE DETERMINANTS FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH THRESHOLD FOR MOVING BETWEEN THESE LEVELS ARE SHOWN IN THE BOX IN THE MIDDLE,AND THESE INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES, AND EXPOSED PERSONS, THE MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY OF THE DISEASE, THE EASE AND SPEED WITH WHICH THE DISEASE IS SPREADING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS THE MOVEMENT OF PERSONS IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, THE INTENSE RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR CONTACT TRACING AND PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE, THE NEED FOR URGENT PUBLIC HEALTH ACTION FOR CONTAINMENT, AND THE RISK FOR PUBLIC PANIC. THE LEVELS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE RIGHT GO FROM LEVEL 1, IN WHICH THE PREDOMINANT FOCUS OF EDUCATION AND INFORMATION AND INCREASING SURVEILLANCE AND A ALERTNESS.  THIS INCLUDES

TRAVEL ALERTS, ADVISORIES, PRESS INFORMATION AND PRESS RELEASES, AND INTERAGENCY PARTNER NOTIFICATION, AS WELL AS SATELLITE CONFERENCES LIKE THE ONE WE'RE HAVING

RIGHT NOW. IN LEVEL 2, THIS INCREASES ONE STEP FURTHER TO THE ISSUANCE OF TRAVEL ADVISORY AND THE VOLUNTARY MOVEMENT OF PUBLIC GATHERINGS. IN LEVEL 3 WE SEE COMPULSORY LIMITATIONS AND CURFEWS OR CANCELING TRANSPORTATION SCHEMES OR PUBLIC EVENTS. LEVEL 4 IS THE MOST HIGHLY RESTRICTIVE, AND IT INCLUDES ENFORCEMENT OF THESE ACTIVITIES UP TO THE TYPICAL RINGING A GEOGRAPHIC AREA FOR QUARANTINE

AND PREVENTING MOVEMENT IN OR OUT OF THIS AREA. SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE IS AN

EXAMPLE OF THE TRAVEL ADVISORIES THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR SARS TO DEFER NONESSENTIAL TRAVEL IN AN OUTBOUND DIRECTION TO THE AREAS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING

WIDESPREAD COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION.THE LOCATIONS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW INDICATE THOSE TO WHICH THERE IS AN ONGOING TRAVEL ADVISORY ISSUED BY CDC, AND THESE CORRESPOND TO ONGOING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM W.H.O. TO RESTRICTING NONESSENTIAL TRAVEL AS WELL. THE TWO HIGHLIGHTED BELOW, SINGAPORE AND HANOI, INDICATE THAT

THERE WERE TRAVEL ADVISORIES IN PLACE THAT HAVE NOW BEEN SCALED BACK. A LOWER LEVEL IS THE TRAVEL ALERT, OR A “HEADS-UP” AND ITS PURPOSE IS PRIMARILY TO

EDUCATE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION ON RISK REDUCTION. THIS IS TO ENHANCE OUR AWARENESS AND OUR SURVEILLANCE FOR EARLY DETECTION AND RAPID RESPONSE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A TRAVEL ALERT IN PLACE FOR SINGAPORE, HAVE DROPPED THE TRAVEL ALERT FOR HANOI, VIETNAM, AND ARE PROCESSING BACK THE ALERT IN TORONTO AND CANADA. THESE MEASURES OF TRAVEL ADVISORIES AND ALERTS SHOULD NOT

BE TAKEN LIGHTLY, AS THEY COULD HAVE MAJOR ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES, AS SHOWN HERE IN THIS SLIDE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF A ZURICH TRADE FAIR WHERE RESIDENTS OF

SARS COUNTRIES WERE ASKED TO NOT ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE. SOMETIMES THIS TYPE OF OVERREACTION COMES FROM THE EPIDEMIC OF FEAR, WHICH NEEDS TO BE QUENCHED. SOMETIMES THE POTENTIAL FOR ADVERSE PUBLIC HEALTH OUTCOME, AS WE WILL HEAR FROM DR. LIANG, IN TERMS OF SUPPRESSING THE REPORTING WHEN TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS ARE APPLIED TOO LIBERALLY. IN ADDITION, AS I MENTIONED, COMMUNITY MEASURES TO PREVENT TRANSLOCATION OF DISEASE IN THE MODERN ERA OF GLOBALIZATION ARE KEY. SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE ARE THREE CLASSIC MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN USED TO PREVENT TRAVEL-ASSOCIATED TRANSLOCATION OF SARS. THE FIRST IS PRE-DEPARTURE SCREENING, FROM QUESTION BASED TO TEMPERATURE-BASED MONITORING OF THOSE WHO HAVE HAD RECENT CLOSE CONTACT. THIS TARGETS ONLY THOSE AT GREATEST RISK OF TRANSLOCATING DISEASE.IN ADDITION, BOTH CDC AND W.H.O.HAVE DEVELOPED PROTOCOLS AND GUIDELINES FOR THE SAFE, EFFECTIVE AND RAPID RESPONSE TO THOSE WHO DEVELOP SYMPTOMS CONSISTENT WITH SARS IN TRANSIT, AND THESE INCLUDE MOVING THE AFFECTED PERSON TO THE ISOLATED PART OF THE AIRCRAFT AND USING BARRIER PRECAUTIONS, AS WELL AS RAPIDLY BRINGING THEM TO THE ATTENTION OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND MEDICAL AUTHORITIES SO THEY CAN BE EVALUATED UPON LANDING.ONE NEEDS TO BE AWARE, HOWEVER, OF THE WIDESPREAD USE OF MASKS THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE SETTING OF SARS. THIS DOES NOT

NECESSARILY ELIMINATE THE RISK.ILL-FITTED OR INAPPROPRIATE MASKS ARE OFTEN NOT USEFUL AND MAY CONTRIBUTE TO A FALSE SENSE OFSECURITY. CDC GUIDELINES FOR THE USE OF MASKS FOCUS ON HIGH-RISK ENCOUNTERS IN PATIENT CARE SETTINGS, AND THE USE OF APPROPRIATELY FITTED (AND 95) RESPIRATORS.HOWEVER, AS WE CAN SEE FROM THESE LAST TWO SLIDES, MASKS HAVE BECOME QUITE POPULAR AS A FASHION STATEMENT, AND PERHAPS NOT AS USEFUL AS A PERSONAL PROTECTION MEASURE.THIS IS A SLIDE FROM THE HONG KONG AIRPORT. IN ADDITION, ON DISEMBARKATION, WE HAVE USED THE PROCESS OF YELLOW HEALTH ALERT NOTICES TO INFORM THE TARGETED TRAVELERS ARRIVING TO OUR

COUNTRY FROM AREAS WITH COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION OF SARS THAT THEY MAY HAVE RECENTLY BEEN EXPOSED. THUS FAR WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED OVER 1 MILLION HEALTH ALERT

NOTICES IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE MARCH 15th.OVER 5,000 AIRLINE FLIGHTS HAVE

BEEN MET, AND OVER 6,000 SEA VESSELS HAVE BEEN TARGETED FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THESE HEALTH ALERT NOTICES.IN ADDITION, DURING THE PERIOD OF CONCERN IN TORONTO, 16 LAND CROSSINGS BETWEEN ONTARIO AND THE UNITED STATES WERE ALSO POSTED, AND 65,000 CONVEYANCES WERE ISSUED HEALTH ALERT NOTICES.THIS PROVIDES INFORMATION TO ENHANCE AWARENESS AMONG THE TRAVELER AND TO INDICATE THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF SARS TO ALLOW FOR RAPID DETECTION AND EARLY ISOLATION.IT ALSO REMINDS THE TRAVELER TO CALL AHEAD TO THE MEDICAL FACILITY TO ENSURE SAFE TRANSPORT AND EVALUATION, EVEN IN THE OUTPATIENT SETTING BEFORE THE PERSON ARRIVES.THERE'S ALSO A MESSAGE ON HERE FOR PHYSICIANS AND WAYS TO CONTACT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM AND CDC.DISEMBARKATION NOTICES OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED AT THE FOLLOWING PORTS OF ENTRY THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES: 22 AIRPORTS OF ENTRY FOR FLIGHTS ARRIVING FROM SOUTHEAST ASIA, AND 50 ADDITIONAL POINTS OF ENTRY FOR ARRIVALS FROM TORONTO.IN ADDITION, WE HAVE TARGETED OUR SURVEILLANCE IN THE UNITED STATES AT THESE POINTS OF ARRIVAL AND HAVE USED AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH FOR EARLY DETECTION, RAPID RECOGNITION AND ISOLATION. SHOWN HERE ARE THE LOCATION OF PROBABLE CASES IN RED, AND SUSPECT CASES IN BLUE FOR THE U.S. CASES OF SARS.IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT IN OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THIS EPIDEMIC IN THE UNITED STATES SO FAR, 95% OF THE CASES HAVE BEEN TRAVEL-RELATED TRANSLOCATIONS. WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE NOT TO EXPERIENCE THE DEGREE OF LOCAL TRANSMISSION AS OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE. HERE ARE SOME FINAL MEASURES TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY CONTROL AND CONTAINMENT JUST COMING ONTO THE HORIZON AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS OF SARS. THIS IS A PICTURE OF DISINFECTION AND DECONTAMINATION IN THE STREETS OF (GWON JO) AND THIS IS THE RAPID BUILDING OF A DEDICATED SARS HOSPITAL IN BEIJING, WHICH WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN UNDER A WEEK'S TIME.OUR LESSONS OF PREPAREDNESS HAVE TAUGHT US THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY IN ADVANCE ADEQUATE MEDICAL RESOURCES AND MEDICAL FACILITIES FOR BOTH ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE IF WE ARE TO CONTAIN AN EPIDEMIC IN THIS COUNTRY. WE NEED TO FIND AND IDENTIFY LOCATIONS FOR CONTAGION HOSPITALS OR WARDS WITHIN THOSE HOSPITALS THAT COULD PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE ISOLATION FACILITIES. WE ALSO MUST BE COGNIZANT OF THE NEED TO FIND RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES FOR QUARANTINE AND RECUPERATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO BE AT HOME.IF WE WERE TO NEED THESE TOOLS IN THE UNITED STATES, WE MUST BE PREPARED TO ACT BOLDLY, SWIFTLY AND PRUDENTLY, YET WITH BALANCED MEASURES TO EFFECTIVELY CONTAIN AN EPIDEMIC OF SARS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.AND THANK YOU, DR. CETRON

JUST A QUICK REMINDER: WE WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT SARS LATER IN THE BROADCAST, SO HERE ARE OUR CONTACT NUMBERS TO DO THAT YOU MAY CALL 800-793-8598 OR TTY AT 800-815-8152OR YOU CAN FAX YOUR QUESTIONS TO 800-553-6323.  WE CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU. NOW, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE GENE MATTHEWS.GENE MATTHEWS IS THE CHIEF LEGAL ADVISER TO THE CDC FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL.MR. MATTHEWS WILL TALK TO US ABOUT THE LEGAL ISSUES SURROUNDING CONTAINMENT OF SARS.

 

MR. MATTHEWS

WELL, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES TO REVIEW THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF SARS ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE. JUST AS THE SCIENCE OF SARS IS CHANGING, SO  THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF SARS ARE EVOLVING AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS

EPIDEMIC.WE NOW USE THE TERM “LEGAL PREPAREDNESS” AS PART OF THE BROADER CONCEPT OF THIS BROADCAST, WHICH IS COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS AND IN THIS BRIEF OVERVIEW, I

WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THREE TOPICS -- THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT, THE CURRENT SITUATION, AND THEN FUTURE EXPECTATIONS. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH DR. CETRON'S SLIDES FROM A FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT THE BALANCING OF PUBLIC GOOD AND PUBLIC

LIBERTIES.I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT IN THIS MORNING'S "NEW

YORK TIMES," THE OUTGOING W.H.O. DIRECTOR IS QUOTED ASKING VERY SIMILAR QUESTIONS AS POSED BY THIS SLIDE. SHE ASKS, HOW CAN WE BEST COMBINE HUMAN RIGHTS

OBLIGATIONS, AND THE NEED TO RESTRICT INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF DISEASE? SO THERE'S A LOT OF ENERGY CURRENTLY GOING ON WITH RESPECT TO THIS ISSUE, AND THE REASON INVOLVES A HISTORICAL CONTEXT. IN THIS PRESENTATION, I HAVE TWO VISUAL METAPHORS TO USE: ONE IS THE CONCEPT OF SHIPS PASSING IN THE NIGHT, AND A LITTLE BIT LATER I WILL TALK ABOUT CONNECTING THE SILOS WITH RESPECT TO THE SHIPS PASSING IN THE NIGHT. IN THIS COUNTRY, SOMEWHERE IN THE 1950s, I WOULD ARBITRARILY PIN 1954 AS THE YEAR, WITH THE POLIO VACCINE MARKING THE END OF THE NEED FOR U.S. COMMUNITY-WIDE PUBLIC HEALTH CONTROL MEASURES WHICH PREVIOUSLY WENT BACK NEARLY 300 YEARS IN THIS COUNTRY. ABOUT THE SAME TIME,YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SUPREME COURT EVOLUTION BEGINNING WITH THE CASE OF BROWN VERSUS BOARD OF EDUCATION. THIS MARKED THE BEGINNING OF PROCEDURAL PROTECTIONS OF INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES AGAINST GOVERNMENT ACTION. THE PARADOX THAT WE HAVE WITH RESPECT TO ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE IS, BECAUSE OF THIS HISTORICAL COINCIDENCE, WE NEVER REALLY CONNECTED THE QUARANTINE SHIP, WHICH WAS SAILING INTO PORT IN 1954, WITH THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES SHIP THAT WAS BEGINNING TO SAIL OUT IN 1954.SO WE HAVE NOT CONNECTED TOGETHER THIS RICH LEGAL TEXTURE OF PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS, AND STRICT JUDICIAL SCRUTINY, AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THE JUDICIARY, THE LEGISLATURES, AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH HAVE EVOLVED IN THIS CULTURE IN THE PAST 50 YEARS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THIS PARADOX IN MIND. HISTORICALLY, THE PUBLIC HEALTH IS A POLICE POWER AND UNDER THE TENTH AMENDMENT OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, MOST POLICE POWER IS RESERVED TO THE STATES.THE FEDERAL FUNCTIONS AS NOTED ON YOUR SCREEN ARE FOR INTERNATIONAL SITUATIONS, FOR INTERSTATE, AND ALSO THE ISSUE OF FEDERAL FUNDING AND ASSISTANCE PROVIDED PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO SARS TO STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THE SECOND METAPHOR THAT I WANT TO LAY OUT IS THE CONCEPT OF THE SILOS THAT HAVE EVOLVED IN THIS COUNTRY.WE HAVE A WHOLE SET OF SILOS,PUBLIC HEALTH, LAW ENFORCEMENT,EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, HEALTH CARE SERVICES, THE JUDICIARY, AND THESE ALL OPERATE ON THE FEDERAL, THE STATE AND THE LOCAL LEVEL. PART OF THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO CONNECT TOGETHER THOSE SHIPS, THE TWO HISTORICAL THINGS THAT OCCURRED IN THIS COUNTRY, IS TO CONNECT TOGETHER THE VARIOUS CELLS IN THE SILOS, SO THAT WE ARE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE OTHER CULTURES OR SUBCULTURES ARE DOING WITH RESPECT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THE JUDICIARY, SO IN AN EMERGENCY, WE KNOW BEST HOW TO USE ASSETS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. TAKES US UP TO THE CURRENT SITUATION, WHICH IS GENERALLY THAT INDIVIDUAL STATES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INTRASTATE PUBLIC HEALTH CONTROL MEASURES USING THEIR LAWS. YOU SHOULD NOTE THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT VARIATION AMONG STATE LAWS, AND SOME LOCAL JURISDICTIONS MAY HAVE PUBLIC HEALTH CONTROL PROVISIONS THAT ARE EASIER TO USE THAN THE STATE PROVISIONS.SO AGAIN, THE -- CONNECTING THE SILOS COMES INTO PLAY.ALSO, STATE, LOCAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICERS DO HAVE EXPERIENCE DEALING IN INDIVIDUAL CONTROL MEASURES SUCH AS ISOLATING OF INFECTIOUS TB PATIENTS, DEALING WITH SCHOOL ATTENDANCE AND IMMUNIZATIONS, OR DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH COMMITMENTS.BUT GENERALLY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH COMMUNITY PREVENTION MEASURES.NOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS CONCURRENT POWER TO APPREHEND, DETAIN OR CONDITIONALLY RELEASE INDIVIDUALS TO PREVENT EITHER

INTERSTATE SPREAD OR INTERNATIONAL IMPORTATION OF CERTAIN DISEASES. THOSE FEDERALLY QUARANTINED DISEASES MUST BE LISTED IN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT.  AS DR. CETRON MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO, THOSE QUARANTINEABLE

DISEASES WERE UPDATED ON APRIL 4th BY ADDING SARS TO THE LIST AS A PRUDENT PUBLIC HEALTH PREPAREDNESS MEASURE.THE OTHER SEVEN DISEASES HAD BEEN IN PLACE FOR SOME TIME. THE LAST TIME IT WAS AMENDED WAS 1983, WHEN EBOLA VIRUS WAS ADDED TO THE LIST. THE U.S. CUSTOMS AND COAST GUARD ASSIST IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF QUARANTINE REGULATIONS, PRIMARILY THE INTERNATIONAL IMPORTATION SITUATIONS. THE VIOLATION OF THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS IS A CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR. NOW, LET ME SPEAK JUST FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THE INTERPLAY OF THE FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL LAWS. IN GENERAL, STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES HAVE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION.THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS AUTHORITY TO PREVENT INTERSTATE SPREAD OF DISEASE, PLUS THE INTERNATIONAL IMPORTATION.THE SECRETARY OF HHS MAY ACCEPT STATE AND LOCAL ASSISTANCE IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL QUARANTINE REGULATIONS. THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES MAY ASSIST STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS IN APPLICATION OF THEIR COMMUNICABLE DISEASE STATUTES. FINALLY, HHS PROVIDES BIOTERRORISM INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT DOLLARS TO STATES AND SOME OF THE LARGER LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. IN THAT MONEY IS INCLUDED A PROVISION FOR FUNDS TO ASSIST STATES IN THEIR LEGAL PREPAREDNESS. ONE MATTER – A QUESTION - THAT HAS COME UP WITHIN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS INVOLVES THE FEDERAL CONTROL APPLICABILITY TO SARS.  DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR A CASE OF SARS TO SPREAD INTERSTATE, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE FEDERAL QUARANTINE AUTHORITY COULD BE APPLIED TO A SINGLE SARS CASE THAT OCCURS INSIDE A STATE OR LOCAL JURISDICTION, IF DOING THIS IS NECESSARY. CLEARLY, CDC WOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN INTERSTATE SARS SPREAD TO ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE BEFORE ACTING, BUT ANY SUCH CDC ACTION ON SARS WOULD BE CAREFULLY COORDINATED WITH THE APPROPRIATE STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS. AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT CONNECTING THE SILOS. NOW, IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE FOR FEDERAL, STATE AND THE LOCAL LAWS TO ALL COME INTO PLAY IN A PARTICULAR SITUATION. FOR EXAMPLE, AN AIRCRAFT ARRIVING AT A LARGE CITY AIRPORT. AGAIN, COORDINATION IS CRITICAL.

 

FINALLY, ON THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT EACH LEVEL OF PUBLIC HEALTH MUST EFFECTIVELY CONNECT WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE

LAW ENFORCEMENT COUNTERPARTS TO ASSIST IN THE NECESSARY CARRYING OUT OF A COMPULSORY PUBLIC HEALTH ORDER. THIRD, NOW, LET'S TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT FUTURE EXPECTATIONS. ONE IMPORTANT ACTION STEP THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT IS THE

NEED TO LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF DUE PROCESS FOR QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION.

STATE PROCEDURES WILL VARY, OR MAY NOT EVEN DIRECTLY ADDRESS THE DUE PROCESS ISSUES FOR QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION ORDERS.BUT REMEMBER THAT COURTS MAY

ULTIMATELY REVIEW QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION ORDERS, AND REMEMBER THAT DUE PROCESS IS A FLEXIBLE CONCEPT. WE GO BACK TO DR. CETRON'S SLIDE ABOUT THE BALANCING TEST AS IT APPLIES.THE COMMON ELEMENTS OF DUE PROCESS THAT MOST EXPERTS SEEM

TO AGREE ON, THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT THROUGH AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, ARE THE NEED FOR ADEQUATE NOTICE TO THE PERSON,THAT IS, A WRITTEN ORDER; THE

RIGHT FOR THE PERSON TO BE HEARD SOMEWHERE IN THIS PROCESS, THAT IS, TO PRESENT EVIDENCE AND WITNESSES; AND TO CONFRONT THE EVIDENCE OF THE GOVERNMENT IN

ISSUING THE QUARANTINE OR ISOLATION ORDER TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO LEGAL COUNSEL

AND A FINAL DECISION THAT A COURT CAN THEN REVIEW. JUST LOOKING AT THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO WITH THIS, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE HEALTH OFFICERS BE IN CLOSE COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR PUBLIC HEALTH LEGAL ADVISORS -- BOTH PARTIES NEED TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT COUNTERPARTS AS WE GO FORWARD. ON THAT NOTE, I CALL TO YOUR

ATTENTION THAT CDC, WITH THE HELP OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND A LOT OF OTHER COLLABORATORS AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL, HAVE PUT TOGETHER A FORENSIC

EPIDEMIOLOGY TRAINING COURSE FOR BOTH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS IN RESPONDING TO BIOTERRORISM INVESTIGATIONS. THIS IS PART OF THE

CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO USE AS WE GO FORWARD. LET ME JUST LEAVE YOU WITH SOME RESOURCES WHICH I'LL PUT UP ON THE SCREEN. THESE POWER POINTS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITE. YOU CAN ALSO OBTAIN THE DETAILS LATER.THERE ARE THREE KEY CASES OF SUPREME COURT DECISION OF 100 YEARS AGO ON PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY CONTROL POWERS. A FEDERAL CASE FROM 1963 INVOLVING THE FEDERAL QUARANTINE AUTHORITY, AND THEN A RECENT CALIFORNIA DECISION INVOLVING A TUBERCULOSIS SITUATION, WHICH YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT. AND LET ME ALSO GIVE YOU --SOME URL RESOURCES: FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW CONFERENCE THAT'S COMING UP THIS JUNE THAT WILL DISCUSS THESE ISSUES IN MORE DETAIL. IF YOU NEED INFORMATION ON THE SARS FEDERAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, THAT'S AT THE CDC WEB SITE, AS IS THE FACT SHEET ON LEGAL AUTHORITIES FOR ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE FROM WHICH MOST OF THIS PRESENTATION HAS BEEN DERIVED. AND FINALLY, IF YOU NEED INFORMATION ON THE FORENSIC EPIDEMIOLOGY COURSE, THAT'S ALSO AVAILABLE AT THE CDC PUBLIC HEALTH WEB SITE. SO IN CLOSING, LET ME JUST SAY, THERE'S SORT OF THREE TAKE-HOME MESSAGES HERE. NUMBER ONE, REMEMBER THE BALANCING TEST AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. NUMBER TWO, THERE'S THE HISTORICAL REALITY THAT TWO SHIPS PASSED IN THE NIGHT IN THIS COUNTRY, AND WE NEED TO CONNECT THEM UP. THE THIRD POINT IS, WE CONNECT UP BY CONNECTING UP THE SILOS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE JUDICIARY, AND THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS AT THE FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

 

K DANIELS: ALL RIGHT, SO BALANCING TEST, HISTORICAL REALITY AND CONNECTING THE SILOS. THANK YOU, MR. MATTHEWS. RIGHT NOW I WANT TO ONCE AGAIN REMIND OUR VIEWERS THAT WE WILL HAVE A QUESTION-AND-ANSWER SEGMENT LATER IN THIS BROADCAST,AND WE CERTAINLY WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS.YOU MAY PHONE US AT 800-793-8598 OR USE OUR TTY SERVICE AT 800-815-8152 OR YOU MAY FAX YOUR QUESTION TO 800-553-6323. THE QUESTION-AND-ANSWER SEGMENT WILL BEGIN AFTER TODAY'S FINAL PRESENTER. OUR NEXT PANELIST IS DR. ART LIANG, WHO WILL SPEAK TO US ABOUT STEPS CDC IS TAKING TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT OF QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION MEASURES AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL AND WELCOME TO YOU, DR. LIANG. THANK YOU.

 

GOOD AFTERNOON.

A PROFESSOR OF MINE ONCE SAID THAT EVERY MEDICATION HAS TWO EFFECTS, THE ONE YOU WANT AND THE ONE YOU DON'T WANT, AND AS WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM SOME OF THE SPEAKERS TODAY, WE'VE ITEMIZED NOT ONLY THE INTENT OF OUR PUBLIC HEALTH

INTERVENTION IN THIS CASE, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS. WELL, AT LEAST SOME OF US AT THE TABLE ARE NOT LAWYERS, WE'RE NOT ECONOMISTS, WE'RE NOT SOCIAL WORKERS, SO ONE MIGHT WONDER WHY WE CARE ABOUT THIS. THE QUICK ANSWER IS THAT WE CARE BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. HISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT IF OUR INTERVENTIONS HAVE UNDULY, PUNISHING CONSEQUENCES, EITHER BY PERCEPTION OR IN REALITY, THIS UNDERMINES THE EFFECT OF THE INTERVENTIONS. IN THIS CASE, WE CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE THOSE WHO SHOULD BE REPORTING ILLNESS UNDERGROUND, AT LEAST THAT WOULD BE THE CONCERN. IN FACT, IN THIS OUTBREAK, WE ACTUALLY HAVE HEARD, AND AS MANY OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE AS WELL, DISTURBING COMMENTS. HERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE CDC RECEIVED THROUGH ITS HOTLINE AND, OF COURSE, WE'VE SEEN ARTICLES IN THE PAPER ABOUT THE IMPACT ON BUSINESSES IN VARIOUS CHINESE COMMUNITIES. SO IN ORDER TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS – WAS REALLY A PROBLEM? AND HOW BIG WAS IT?-, WE ACTUALLY CONDUCTED MORE THAN (60 INTERVIEWS -- ACTUALLY, NOW EIGHT DISCUSSIONS) INVOLVING KEY INFORMANTS FROM WITHIN AND FROM OUTSIDE THE ASIAN COMMUNITY REPRESENTING NATIONAL, STATE AND LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, STATE AND LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, PEOPLE FROM BOTH PRIVATE SECTORS, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC SECTOR, ACADEMIA, FOR-PROFIT AS WELL AS NONPROFIT. IN ADDITION, KNOWING THAT OTHER GROUPS ARE SUBJECT TO UNREASONABLE STIGMATIZATION, WE ALSO SAT IN ON MEETINGS THAT DR. JERNIGAN AND OUR OCCUPATIONAL TEAMS HAD WITH THE AIRLINE WORKERS AS WELL AS HEALTH CARE WORKERS. WE ALSO GATHERED MORE SYSTEMATIC INFORMATION FROM THE CDC HOTLINE AS WELL AS OBTAINED SOME INFORMATION FROM A HARVARD SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH SURVEY THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE CONDUCTED IN APRIL. THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE GATHERED FROM OUR HOTLINE.AND INDEED, WE SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME DISTURBING IDEASEXPRESSED ON BY SOME OF THE CALLERS. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT, OF THE OVER 2,000 CALLS, THESE NOTIONS SEEM TO BE MINORITY PERSPECTIVES. ACTUALLY, I WOULD POINT OUT, ON THAT LAST SLIDE, THE CALLER DID INCLUDE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HEALTH CARE WORKERS AS WELL AS PEOPLE WORKING FOR AIRLINES. THIS SLIDE COMES FROM SOME PRELIMINARY RESULTS FROM A VERY DETAILED HARVARD TELEPHONE

SURVEY. IT WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED AT ISSUES OF STIGMA OR DISCRIMINATION PER SE, BUT WAS REALLY A CROSS-SECTION OF QUESTIONS TRYING TO GAUGE THE

KNOWLEDGE BASE OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST SOME NOTIONS BEING HELD BY THE PUBLIC THAT DON'T QUITE GIBE, AT LEAST WITH THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IN THE UNITED STATES ABOUT THE NATURE OF THIS OUTBREAK.IN GENERAL, PULLING ALL THESE BITS OF DATA TOGETHER, I THINK WE CONCLUDED THAT THE FEAR ACTUALLY IN THE GENERAL POPULATION WAS NOT SUBSTANTIAL.EVEN IF THE KNOWLEDGE WAS A LITTLE BIT SHORT ON THE OTHER HAND – IT WOULD SEEM THAT THIS KNOWLEDGE GAP DID TRANSLATE INTO SOME SUBSTANTIAL CONCERNS ON THE PART OF THE ASIAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, SOME HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND SOME WORKING IN THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY. IT DID SEEM THAT THERE WAS NOT A GOOD SENSE OF THE ACTUAL RISK, AT LEAST IN THE U.S., AND DESPITE A LOT OF THE INFORMATION BEING AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITES, AND THROUGH HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, THERE WAS STILL SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTED SIGNIFICANT RISKS TO TRANSMISSION AND WHAT WERE THE PREVENTION PRACTICES THAT PEOPLE COULD USE. MAYBE A PAT ON THE BACK OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY,IT WAS ALSO EXPRESSED THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS LOOKING TO PUBLIC HEALTH TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP IN COORDINATING, CLARIFYING SOME OF THIS INFORMATION. SO WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT THIS? AT THE BASE OF THESE FEARS, OF COURSE, IS THE FEAR OF CONTAGION, ILLNESS, AND DEATH, WHICH ARE UNDERSTANDABLE FEARS. THE DEFINITIVE TREATMENT, OF COURSE, IS PUBLIC HEALTH -- IS CONTROLLING THE OUTBREAK.BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE SIDE EFFECTS.WE NEED TO TREAT THOSE SIDE EFFECTS BY CONTROLLING THE TENDENCY TO STIGMATIZE, AS WELL AS SUPPORT THE GROUPS THAT MAY WELL BE STIGMATIZED.IN GENERAL, WE WANT TO FOCUS MESSAGES, THE MESSAGES ON PEOPLE AND THEIR ATTRIBUTES, AGE, RACE AND SEX, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THE REAL CAUSES OF THE ILLNESS - THAT'S THE VIRUS AND THE BEHAVIORS THAT BRING PEOPLE IN CONTACT WITH THE VIRUS. OF COURSE, IN PUBLIC HEALTH WE'RE ALWAYS ANALYZING OUR DATA BY AGE, RACE AND SEX, BUT THAT'S  TO LOOK FOR CLUES TO THE REAL RISKS, WHICH IN THIS CASE ARE THE BEHAVIORS THAT PEOPLE DO

THAT CAN BRING US IN CONTACT WITH THE VIRUS. SPECIFICALLY, INFORMATION IS THE INTERVENTION. AS THIS SLIDE SHOWS, THERE ARE ACTUALLY OVER 90 DOCUMENTS  ON THE CDC WEB SITE, THAT ARE THE NATURE OF QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE ABOUT RISK AND

PREVENTION. THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES I PICKED OUT, MAINLY TO DEMONSTRATE THE NEED TO ADDRESS PEOPLE'S REAL CONCERNS AND TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT, AS WELL AS WHAT THEY DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT, - TO TRY TO GIVE SIMPLE, CLEAR MESSAGES ON WHAT THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. AS I MENTIONED FROM OUR QUICK ASSESSMENT, WE DID FIND THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF FEAR WITHIN THE ASIAN COMMUNITY ITSELF AND HERE WE HAVE TO GIVE SOME THANKS TO THE COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND STATE AND LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENTS WITH WHOM WE SPOKE.

THEY ACTUALLY HELPED US COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THE – THAT THESE COMMUNITIES NEEDED TARGETED MESSAGES, - SIMPLE, AND STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND OF COURSE, HAVING THEM IN LANGUAGE WAS A BENEFIT. FINALLY, THE LAST STRATEGY IS SUPPORTING THOSE GROUPS THAT MAY BE STIGMATIZED.HERE ARE A LIST OF SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE EITHER UNDERTAKEN OR ARE PLANNING TO UNDERTAKE. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE LAST BULLET, WHICH IS TO NOT FORGET ABOUT THE OCCUPATIONAL GROUPS THAT MIGHT ALSO BE SUBJECT TO FEAR WITHIN THE GROUP AS WELL AS FROM WITHOUT. -- IN A DAY FULL OF BALANCING ACTS, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF POINTS TO REMBEMBER: ONE, OF COURSE IS THAT -- OUR INFORMATION IS EVOLVING, THINGS ARE CHANGING. WE'RE LEARNING NEW THINGS EVERY DAY. AND NUMBER TWO, SOMETHING WE LEARNED ALONG THE WAY, IT'S OFTEN TEMPTING TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THESE OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENTS IN A VERY STRONG WAY. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE GRADED IN OUR RESPONSE. WE ACTUALLY HEARD FROM SOME COMMUNITIES WHO HAD EXPERIENCES OF MAKING FORCEFUL EDITORIALS IN THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES, ONLY TO FIND THAT THIS MAY ACTUALLY HAVE NOT BEEN THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THAT, AND THAT THINGS MAY HAVE GOTTEN WORSE. SO IN CONCLUSION, I THINK IN PUBLIC HEALTH, WE'RE ALWAYS TARGETING. AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL IN HOW WE COMMUNICATE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES TARGETING CAN LEAD TO STIGMATIZATION, UNINTENTIONALLY, OF COURSE. IN THE U.S., IT APPEARS, AT LEAST FOR THE MOMENT, THAT THE FEAR IS ONLY IN A MINORITY OF FOLKS.

ALTHOUGH THESE FOLKS CAN OVERREACT, THIS OVERREACTION CAN BE CONTAGIOUS IN A MANNER OF SPEAKING. THE SOLUTION TO THIS, OF COURSE, IS TO COMBAT THE FEAR WITH GOOD INFORMATION DELIVERED THROUGH PUBLIC HEALTH, COMMUNITY CLINICIANS, THROUGH ALL OUR PUBLIC HEALTH PARTNERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU, DR. LIANG.

A KEY PHRASE, INFORMATION IS THE INTERVENTION. I'D LIKE TO REMIND OUR VIEWERS

THAT WE WILL HAVE A QUESTION-AND-ANSWER SEGMENT AFTER THIS NEXT PRESENTATION. YOU MAY SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS VIA TELEPHONE. THE NUMBER TO DIAL IS

800-793-8598 OR, USE TTY AT 800-815-8152 OR YOU MAY FAX YOUR QUESTIONS TO

800-553-6323. OUR FINAL PRESENTER COMES TO US LIVE FROM TORONTO, CANADA.

DR. D'CUNHA, DR. COLIN D'CUNHA IS THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC HEALTH, CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH FOR THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO, CANADA. HE'LL SPEAK TO US ABOUT HOW PUBLIC OFFICIALS CONTAINED THE SPREAD OF SARS IN TORONTO.

 

 

 

 

DR. D'CUNHA. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

I AM GOING TO APPROACH MY PRESENTATION FROM THREE PERSPECTIVES: FIRST AND FOREMOST THE PUBLIC HEALTH PRINCIPLES. THE SECOND IS THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK AND FINALLY, IMPLEMENTATION ISSUES.WHEN WE LOOK AT THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF SARS, WE HAD 136 PROBABLE CASES, 23 DEATHS INVOLVING SIX DIFFERENT LOCAL HEALTH PROBLEMS. A POPULATION OF ABOUT 5 MILLION IN ONTARIO'S TOTAL POPULATION OF 12 MILLION PEOPLE. WE ENDED UP PUTTING INTO QUARANTINE 19,000 INDIVIDUALS, OF WHOM APPROXIMATELY 43 HAD TO BE SERVED WITH THE LEGAL TOOL AND THREE WITH A FURTHER LEGAL TOOL TO FORCE THEM TO COMPLY. THIS LED US TO CONCLUDE THAT THE

VAST MAJORITY OF ONTARIO RESIDENTS WHO WERE ASKED TO GO INTO QUARANTINE BY LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITIES VERY SUCCESSFULLY FOLLOWED THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS. I TAKE YOU BACK IN TERMS OF THE SCENE.THIS WAS THE MIDDLE OF MARCH WHEN THE FIRST SARS CASE CAME TO OUR ATTENTION. DRAWING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE

FACT THAT NOT MUCH WAS KNOWN ABOUT SARS AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND THAT WE WERE ABSOLUTELY DETERMINED TO SET ABOUT CONTROLLING THIS DISEASE, WE USED THE PUBLIC HEALTH PRINCIPLES OF CASE FINDING, CONTACT ISOLATION, AND STRICT QUARANTINE TO BRING THE RING OF CONTROL AROUND, - I BELIEVE WE SUCCEEDED. SIMPLY PUT, IF SOMEONE WAS A PERSON UNDER INVESTIGATION, MET THE CASE DEFINITION OF SUSPECT,

OR WAS A PROBABLE CASE, THEY WERE IMMEDIATELY ISOLATED. DEPENDING ON THEIR CLINICAL CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY WERE EITHER ISOLATED AT HOME, WHICH WAS THE

VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, OR ISOLATED IN A HOSPITAL UNDER APPROPRIATE RESPIRATORY

ISOLATION PRECAUTIONS. BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE SPREAD OF

DISEASE AT THAT STAGE, AND SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NO REASON TO DOUBT TODAY. WHEN IT CAME TO CONTACTS, WE PUT THE CONTACTS IN HOME ISOLATION, AND WE DID HAVE TO DEAL WITH A FEW SOCIAL SITUATIONS THAT I WILL DISCUSS IN A FEW MINUTES LATER

IN MY PRESENTATION. IN TERMS OF ITS IMPACT, WE ARE STILL TOTALING UP THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF SARS ON US HERE IN ONTARIO. WE DID HAVE ISSUES OF COMMUNITY CONCERN AROUND RISK PERCEPTION, AROUND THE PERCEIVED INCONVENIENCE TO PEOPLE'S LIVES. THERE WERE INTERNATIONAL IMPACTS ALL THE WAY FROM THE WORLD HEALTH

ORGANIZATION TO PLACES AS FAR AWAY AS AUSTRALIA, TO AS CLOSE AS THE UNITED STATES, SOME OF WHICH HAD LEGITIMATE ISSUES AND SOME WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE A

COMMUNITY-ACQUIRED PNEUMONIA THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY INVESTIGATED AND THOUGHT NOT TO BE SARS. IN TERMS OF SETTING THE LEGAL CONTEXT, I NEED FIRST TO MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT IN CANADA, WE FUNCTION WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOWING LEADERSHIP

AND HAVING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE QUARANTINE ACT. HEALTH CARE IS PREDOMINANTLY  THE BUSINESS OF THE PROVINCES, WHICH ARE EQUIVALENT TO THE STATES IN THE U.S., AND IS DELIVERED THROUGH LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, WHICH ARE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO COUNTY OR CITY HEALTH DEPARTMENTS SEEN IN THE UNITED STATES. THE TERM QUARANTINE AS LEGALLY DEFINED BELONGS TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR PURPOSES OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO. ONE OPERATES UNDER THE ONTARIO PROTECTION PROMOTION ACT, FIRST ENACTED IN 1984, AND WAS AMENDED AS RECENTLY AS LAST YEAR TO KEEP PACE WITH THE SCIENCE AS BEST WE KNOW IT. WE USE THE TERMS ISOLATION AND

QUARANTINE INTERCHANGEABLY, EXCEPT IN THE LEGAL SENSE, IN WHICH CASE IF IT'S THE FEDERAL ACT THAT'S INVOKED AT A BORDER CROSSING. IF IT'S WITHIN THE PROVINCE, THE ONTARIO HEALTH PROTECTION ACT. WITHIN THE ACT, THERE ARE A SERIES OF POWERS GIVEN TO LOCAL MEDICAL OFFICERS TO HELP, AND THE MINISTER, TO TAKE ACTIONS,

TO RECOMMEND ACTIONS, OR TO FORCE PEOPLE TO TAKE ACTIONS TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COMMUNICABLE DISEASE. PRIOR TO SARS COMING UNDER THE ACT. - SARS WAS NOT KNOWN AS SUCH UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF MARCH – ACT. ALLOWS THE MINISTER OR THE CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER TO DEAL WITH THE INFECTION USE DISEASE. RECOGNIZING WHAT WE WERE GETTING INTO, I MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE MINISTER OF HEALTH, WHO TOOK  FIVE MINUTES TO AGREE, AND WORKING WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL WE DRAFTED THE NECESSARY PAPERWORK TO MAKE SARS A REPORTABLE COMMUNICABLE DISEASE. MAKING IT “REPORTABLE” ALLOWED HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS TO REPORT THE DISEASE TO LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITIES WITH THE FORCE OF LAW. MAKING IT “COMMUNICABLE” GAVE OUR 37 MEDICAL OFFICES THE POWER TO REQUIRE PEOPLE SUSPECTED OF HAVING SARS TO TAKE OR NOT TAKE CERTAIN ACTIONS. MAKING IT A REPORTABLE COMMUNICABLE DISEASE MEANT THAT PEOPLE WHO DID NOT FOLLOW THE LEGAL POWER OF THE MEDICAL OFFICER WOULD BE SUBJECTED TO A COURT AUTHORITY, THUS ALLOWING OUR ACTIONS IN PUBLIC HEALTH TO BE SUBJECTED TO REVIEW PROCESS. BECAUSE ANY PERSON WHO IS IN RECEIPT OF SUCH AN ORDER - AS I REPORTED, 43 PEOPLE DID RECEIVE SUCH ORDERS - DID HAVE RECOURSE TO THE COURTS AS THEY DESIRED. AS BEST AS I UNDERSTAND IT, NONE OF THEM CHOSE TO GO TO JUDICIAL REVIEW, BECAUSE I SUSPECT THEY UNDERSTOOD THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE ORDER AND FELT THEIR POINT OF VIEW WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE THE ORDER WAS IN FACT FOLLOWED THROUGH. IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH SOME OF THE PRACTICAL ISSUES, WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DECLARED A PROVINCIAL HEALTH EMERGENCY WAS THAT OUR EXISTING PUBLIC HEALTH INFORMATION SYSTEM DID NOT HAVE GOOD ELECTRONIC DATABASES THAT COULD COPE WITH THE HUGE NUMBER OF CONTACTS THAT WE POTENTIALLY HAD TO FOLLOW. SO WE TAPPED INTO THE LAW

ENFORCEMENT CONTACT MANAGEMENT ELECTRONIC INFORMATION SYSTEM. WE USED THAT TO VERY SUCCESSFULLY TRACK AND TO PLAN HOW TO INTEGRATE THIS INTO OUR PUBLIC HEALTH INFORMATION. WE RAN INTO A WHOLE VARIETY OF SOCIAL SUPPORT ISSUES VERY SPECIFICALLY, ADDRESSING THE ESSENTIALS OF LIFE, SUCH AS WHETHER IT'S BUYING GROCERIES, WHETHER IT'S PAYING BILLS, AND OTHER DAY-TO-DAY, MUNDANE TASKS

THAT WE ALL TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT BECOME A CHALLENGE WHEN GOING INTO QUARANTINE. WE RAN INTO ISSUES INVOLVING PERSONS WHO WERE IN ONTARIO AND CANADA ILLEGALLY, HAVING OVERSTAYED THEIR VISAS, AND OUR CHALLENGE HERE WAS TO ENSURE THAT THEY RECEIVED HEALTH CARE, THAT THE IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENT DIDN'T GO AFTER THEM. IN OTHER WORDS, WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE DISAPPEAR, BUT COME FORWARD, SEEK APPROPRIATE CARE, GO INTO ISOLATION FOR PUBLIC HEALTH RECOMMENDATIONS

AND NOT BE PENALIZED. THIS INVOLVED ALL THREE LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT IN THE

COUNTRY WORKING VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER AND FINALLY, WE RAN INTO COMPENSATION ISSUES. IN THE EARLY DAYS, THROUGH THE EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE PROGRAM FOR

FOLKS WHO HAD EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE, WHICH IS ANYBODY WHO'S EMPLOYED AND PAYS A FIXED SMALL AMOUNT OF THEIR NOMINAL SALARY, THEY HAD SOME COVERAGE. FOR PEOPLE WHERE IT WAS RELATED TO THEIR WORKPLACE, AND THE WORKPLACE WAS COVERED BY WORKER'S COMPENSATION, THAT WAS ADDRESSED. BUT WE RECOGNIZED A VARIETY OF OUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS AND PHYSICIANS ARE IN GENERAL SELF-EMPLOYED. THE GOVERNMENT IS WORKING THROUGH THE APPLICATION OF FAIR POLICIES TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMPENSATION ISSUES. I'D LIKE TO CLOSE, AND WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO TAKE QUESTIONS.THANK YOU.

>> AND THANKS TO YOU, DR. D'CUNHA, TALK BG HOW OFFICIALS ARE CONTAINING THE

SPREAD OF SARS IN TORONTO. WE ARE NOW AT THE QUESTION PORTION OF OUR BROADCAST.

THE NUMBERS ONCE AGAIN ARE BY PHONE, 800-793-8598 TTY, 800-815-81526789 AND THEN

BY FAX, 800-553-6323.

 

DR. JERNIGAN, A CO-LEADER FOR THE SARS CLINICAL AND INFECTION CONTROL TEAM AT CDC, WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, ALONG WITH THE REST OF OUR PANEL. WE WELCOME  DR. JERNIGAN; NOW LET'S BEGIN RIGHT OFF THE TOP WITH A QUESTION FROM

WASHINGTON.DR. JERNIGAN, WHAT CAN CDC DO TO HELP WITH QUARANTINE AND ISOLATION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL? ACTUALLY, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I'LL DIRECT TO

DR. CETRON. SURE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS IN WHICH

THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS, CDC TOGETHER WITH LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS CAN HELP DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE IN THE PREPAREDNESS REALM. ONE OF THEM IS TO SHARE THE

LESSONS LEARNED GLOBALLY THAT OUR FIELD FOLKS HAVE GLEANED FROM BEING ON THE FRONT LINES WITH W.H.O. IN SOME OF THE HARD-HIT AREAS AFFECTED BY SARS.

SOME OF THOSE IMPORTANT LESSONS YOU HEARD FROM DR. D'CUNHA, INCLUDING THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PERSONS WILL VOLUNTARILY DO THE RIGHT THING, AND DO NOT NEED

TO BE SERVED ANY LEGAL ORDERS, ONLY HAS TO APPLY IN THE MINORITY OF INSTANCES.  IN ADDITION, WE CAN PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON STRATEGIC PLANNING BY DEFINING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SARS WARDS OR HOSPITALS, AS WELL AS DEDICATED RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES. WE CAN PROVIDE--AND HAVE ALREADY DONE SO THROUGH LEADERSHIP IN MR. MATTHEWS' SHOP-- MODELS, STATE LAWS THAT WILL HELP STATES UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, AND WHAT KIND OF TOOLS THEY NEED TO HAVE IN THEIR POSSESSION. IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, TOGETHER THROUGH THE GRANTS PROCESS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IS ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN ENHANCE OUR PREPAREDNESS AND PLANNING.  ALL RIGHT. DR. CETRON, THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. THIS QUESTION IS FROM LINDA, IN TENNESSEE. DR. JERNIGAN, CAN YOU DEFINE APPROPRIATE EYEWEAR THAT HOSPITAL STAFF NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF SARS PATIENTS IN ISOLATION. IN ADDITION, WHAT ARE THE BEST WAYS TO CLEAN EYEWEAR?  RIGHT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE INFECTION CONTROL PRECAUTIONS THAT WE'VE ADVISED ARE AGGRESSIVE.THEY'RE BASED ON LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF THE MODES OF TRANSMISSION OF THIS DISEASE. WE'RE LEARNING MORE AND MORE AS WE GO ALONG. WE'VE TAKEN AN AGGRESSIVE POSITION FROM THE BEGINNING, WHICH INCLUDES PROTECTION OF THE EYES FOR HEALTH CARE WORKERS WHO ARE CARING FOR PATIENTS.THERE ARE TWO POTENTIAL REASONS FOR DOING THIS.ONE, IF YOU'RE PERFORMING A PROCEDURE THAT MIGHT GENERATE LARGE DROPLETS THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY SPLASH INTO THE EYES, OBVIOUSLY EYE PROTECTION IS HELPFUL. QUITE FRANKLY, ANOTHER REASON IS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH CARE WORKER FROM TOUCHING THEIR EYES WITH GLOVED HANDS INADVERTENTLY.WE THINK THAT WITH SOME OTHER DISEASES THAT MIGHT BE AN IMPORTANT MODE OF SELF-INOCULATION AND TRANSMITTING THE DISEASE.IT DEPENDS A LITTLE BIT ON THE TYPE OF PROCEDURE THAT ONE IS RECOMMENDING. IF YOU ARE PERFORMING A PROCEDURE THAT MAY RESULT IN SPLASHING OR GENERATION OF AEROSOLIZED DROPLETS, WE ACTUALLY RECOMMEND TIGHT-FITTING EYEWEAR IN THE FORM OF GOGGLES, OR SIMILAR DEVICE THAT ACTUALLY WOULD PREVENT AEROSOLIZED DROPLETS FROM ENTERING THE EYES FROM BASICALLY ANY DIRECTION. IF IT'S MORE ROUTINE CARE, WHEREYOU'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT GENERATING AEROSOLS, THEN PERHAPS YOU CAN BE LESS AGGRESSIVE AND MAYBE A FACE MASK OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH REGARDS TO CLEANING THE EQUIPMENT, WE THINK THAT ROUTINE CLEANING WITH ANY HOSPITAL-GRADE DISINFECTANT SHOULD BE ADEQUATE. OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A DISPOSABLE DEVICE, THEN THAT WOULD BE OPTIMAL. OKAY. THIS QUESTION IS -- I GUESS I NEED TO GO WITH THIS ONE. IF SOMEONE WITH SARS IS ON A TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHT, ARE ALL THE PEOPLE ON THAT FLIGHT AT RISK FOR DEVELOPING THE DISEASE? I HATE TO KEEP SENDING THESE QUESTIONS TO DR. CETRON, BUT I THINK THAT'S IN HIS COURT. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION, AND IT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAS BEEN RAISED A LOT THROUGHOUT THIS EPIDEMIC. RECENTLY W.H.O. HAS POSTED ON ITS WEB SITE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT RISK OF TRANSMISSION IN THE AIRPLANE CABIN ENVIRONMENT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT ONLY A LIMITED NUMBER OF FLIGHTS HAVE HAD DOCUMENTED TRANSMISSION OF SARS FROM ONE PASSENGER TO ANOTHER,

OR TO A CREW MEMBER.  IN FACT, GIVEN THE MILLIONS OF FOLKS WHO HAVE FLOWN OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST TWO MONTHS, THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF CASES THAT HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSMISSION IN FLIGHT IS QUITE SMALL, BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE RISK IS ZERO. THERE ARE CLEARLY MEASURES THAT CAN BE TAKEN TO MITIGATE OR REDUCE THIS RISK. CERTAINLY IN THE PRIMARY ONE THAT W.H.O. AND OTHERS HAVE RECOMMENDED IS THE PREVENTING OF SICK PERSONS FROM EMBARKING AND GETTING ON AIRPLANES TO TRANSLOCATE DISEASE IN THE FIRST PLACE.IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SINCE THE INSTITUTION OF THESE AIRPORT SCREENING RECOMMENDATIONS, BOTH BY QUESTION-BASED DEFERRAL AS WELL AS THERMAL SCANNING AND TEMPERATURE MONITORING, THERE HAVE BEEN NO ADDITIONAL REPORTED CASES OF TRANSMISSION AS BOTH THE CONTROL AND CONTAINMENT MEASURES HAVE TAKEN PLACE RIGOROUSLY WITHIN THOSE COUNTRIES. AT THE PORTS OF EMBARKATION, WE REALLY SEEM TO BE ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE IN LARGE PART. THE RISK IS NOT ZERO, BUT IT IS APPARENTLY VERY LOW, AND WITH CONTAINMENT AND CONTROL MEASURES THAT ARE IN PLACE, IT CAN BE REDUCED EVEN FURTHER. DR. DANIELS, DR. CETRON, THANK YOU.

THIS QUESTION IS FROM McHENRY COUNTY, ILLINOIS.AND IT RELATES TO JAILHOUSE

DETAINEES WHO ARE ARRIVALS FROM HIGH-RISK AREAS. DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR

REDUCING THE POTENTIAL FOR TRANSMISSION IN A CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION?

DR. CETRON, THERE ARE FOLKS FROM OUR QUARANTINE, GLOBAL MIGRATION AND QUARANTINE AREA, TOGETHER WITH DR. JERNIGAN'S INFECTION ANDCONTROL TEAM WHO ARE COMING UP WITH GUIDANCE. AND AS WE'VE SEEN FROM OTHER COMMUNICABLE DISEASES, DETENTION CENTERS AND JAILHOUSES ARE NOT THE KINDS OF PLACES WHERE --THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER APPROPRIATE ISOLATION OR QUARANTINE FACILITIES.IN PART OF THE GUIDANCE, WE TALKED ABOUT DEFINING WHAT ARE APPROPRIATE FACILITIES.THESE CLOSE CROWDING, HIGH-RISK SITUATIONS IN WHICH PATHOGENS CAN GO BOTH UNRECOGNIZED AND AMPLIFY AND ARE SPREAD ARE NOT GOOD SETTINGS AT ALL. WE WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND AGAINST THOSE APPROACHES.

>> OKAY.YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?>> MR. MATTHEWS YES, IF I COULD JUST ADD, THE CASE THAT WAS CITED ON THE SLIDE, THE CALIFORNIA CASE, IT WAS A CALIFORNIA STATE APPEALS COURT TAKING A VERY DIM VIEW OF THE WAY A TUBERCULOSIS PATIENT WAS ISOLATED IN A COUNTY JAIL FACILITY IN CALIFORNIA.THAT'S THE 2002 DECISION.SO IT'S VERY TIMELY. I AGREE WITH WHAT DR. CETRON SAID ON THE MATTER. DR.DANIELS THIS NEXT QUESTION IS FROM NEW JERSEY.DOES THE CDC RECOMMEND TAKING TEMPERATURES OF PEOPLE RETURNING FROM SARS-INFECTED COUNTRIES? IF SO, HOW OFTEN SHOULD THE TEMPERATURE BE TAKEN? DR. JERNIGAN. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE INCLUDED THE ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE OF PEOPLE THAT -- WHO ARE AT RISK. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HAD CLOSE CONTACT WITH PROBABLE CASES OF SARS. NOW, SIMPLY RETURNING FROM THE AFFECTED AREA WOULD NOT NECESSARILY CONSTITUTE A NEED FOR ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE IN THE UNITED STATES, AS WE CURRENTLY ARE IMPLEMENTING THAT AND THAT SIMPLY MONITORING YOUR OWN HEALTH, AS IS INDICATED ON THE YELLOW CARD, AND MONITORING YOUR OWN TEMPERATURE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FEVER WOULD BE VERY USEFUL AND IMPORTANT. AND IN GENERAL, FEVER LOGS ARE SOMETIMES KEPT ABOUT TWICE A DAY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE SEEN SITUATIONS OF COMMUNICABILITY OF SARS, EVEN IN THE STAGE AFTER FEVER HAS EMERGED. SO CHECKING YOUR TEMPERATURE, PERHAPS TWICE A DAY. WHICH YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR OWN, AND CALLING AHEAD IF YOU DEVELOP FEVER OR SYMPTOMS OF SARS, TO GET FURTHER ADVICE AND PROVIDE SAFE TRANSPORT.  DR. DANIELS. I THINK DR. D'CUNHA WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS SUBJECT. GO AHEAD. >> DR. D’CUNHA. TO COMPLEMENT WHAT WAS JUST SAID, WHAT I WANT TO STRESS IS THAT IT'S KEY THAT INCOMING TRAVELERS HAVE THEIR TEMPS TAKEN --PARTICULARLY IF THEY COME FROM HIGH-RISK AREAS. SECOND, NOT JUST KEEPING A TEMPERATURE LOG, BUT LOOKING OUT FOR THE OTHER SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS. OUR EXPERIENCE WAS IT'S NOT FEVER THAT NECESSARILY WAS THE START, IT'S ONE OF THE EARLY PROGRAMMABLE SIGNS. AND KEEP CLOSE TOUCH WITH ONE'S HEALTH CARE PROVIDER AND LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS ARE ORGANIZED FROM STATE TO STATE.>> DR. DANIELS AND DR. D'CUNHA, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, OR A QUESTION FOR YOU FROM ILLINOIS. HOW DID CANADA KEEP TRACK OF 19,000 PERSONS IN QUARANTINE, AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION IS, DID SOMEONE WATCH THEM, OR DID THEY JUST TAKE THEIR WORD THAT THE PERSONS FOLLOWED THE QUARANTINE ORDER?  DR. D’CUNHA SURE. ESSENTIALLY, AS I POINTED OUT, PUBLIC HEALTH IS DELIVERED BY THE 37 MEDICAL OFFICERS OF HEALTH. THE BULK OF THESE 19,000 INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE IN QUARANTINE WERE LOCATED ACROSS EIGHT JURISDICTIONS, WITH A COUPLE IN THREE OTHER OUTLYING AREAS.THE WAY THE HEALTH QUARANTINE WAS MONITORED WAS, FOR LOWER SITUATIONS, TWO PHONE CALLS A DAY.  WE DID GET OTHERS THAT I'LL SPEAK ABOUT IN A MINUTE. IF WE HAD DOUBT THAT SOMEONE WAS EITHER COMPLYING OR THAT A STORY WAS BEING SPUN, A DOOR KNOCKING WAS ACTUALLY UNDERTAKEN AND WHERE APPROPRIATE, POLICE WERE DISPATCHED.BECAUSE WE WERE IN A STATE OF A PROVINCIAL HEALTH EMERGENCY. ONE THAT WE WERE FOOLED WAS AN UNIDENTIFIED SITUATION WHERE THE SPOUSE INDICATED THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WAS AT HOME IN QUARANTINE, ALONG WITH THE SPOUSE. IT TURNED OUT THAT THE INDIVIDUAL NOT ONLY ENDED UP GOING TO WORK, BUT INFECTED ANOTHER WORKER; ALL OF THIS CAME OUT AFTER THE FACT. BUT BY FAR AND LARGE, I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS, AND AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER CORRECTLY NOTED, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO WERE ASKED TO GO INTO QUARANTINE COMPLIED WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY.

>> DR. DANIELS, DR. D'CUNHA, FROM SPOKANE, WASHINGTON, SOMEONE WANTS TO KNOW WHO PAID FOR THE HOSPITAL COSTS AND OTHER EXPENSES OF ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE?>> DR. D’CUNHA ESSENTIALLY WHEN IT CAME TO HOSPITALIZATION, THESE COSTS WERE FULLY PICKED UP BY THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.CANADA DOES HAVE A FREE MEDICAL CARE PROGRAM RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.WE DID HAVE A SITUATION WHERE A

FEW PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE STATUS, OR A FEW ILLEGALS, AND WE MADE SPECIAL ARRANGEMENTS AND GOT APPROPRIATE REGULATORY AMENDMENTS TO BE SURE THAT THESE

PEOPLE WOULD GET CARE WITHOUT THE FINANCES BEING AN ISSUE.AS IT PERTAINS TO HOME ISOLATION, WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF DEVELOPING OUR FINAL COMPENSATION PROGRAM. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE WILL HAVE TO APPLY.WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO PAY PEOPLE $1 MILLION, BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE DEEMED REASONABLE

AND THE POLICY WOULD BE ENTERTAINED FOR PURPOSES OF REIMBURSEMENT FROM A

COMPENSATION STANDPOINT. >> DR. DANIELS THANK YOU, DR. D'CUNHA.I'LL ADDRESS THIS QUESTION TO THE ENTIRE PANEL.FROM OHIO, HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO HAVING A VACCINE, AND WILL WE NEED TO INSTITUTE A MASS VACCINATION PLAN?>> DR. JERNIGAN I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT ONE.OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GREAT INTEREST IN DEVELOPING A VACCINE FOR THIS ILLNESS.THERE ARE VACCINES AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF THE CORONAVIRUSES THAT

INFECT ANIMALS, BUT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES.THERE ARE SOME DIFFICULTIES IN

DEVELOPING EVEN THESE VACCINES. SOME OF THE LIVE VACCINES HAVE THE PROPERTY OF ACTIVELY RECOMBINING WITH SOME OF THE WILD-TYPE VIRUSES AND LOSING

THEIR EFFICACY. WITH SOME OF THE VACCINES, THERE'S ACTUALLY CONCERN ABOUT

ANTIBODY ENHANCEMENT OF ILLNESS AND THIS IS OF GREAT CONCERN.I THINK THAT WE'RE QUITE SOME TIME AWAY FROM A VACCINE IN HUMANS. ALTHOUGH I CAN TELL YOU THAT CDC

IS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH AND OTHERS TO ACTIVELY INVESTIGATE THIS ISSUE, AND DEVELOP NEW VACCINES.BUT WE'RE SOME TIME AWAY FROM A VACCINE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR HUMANS.OBVIOUSLY IF WE GET AN EFFECTIVE AND SAFE VACCINE, IT WILL PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE CONTROL

OF THIS DISEASE.>> DR. DANIELS, DR. JERNIGAN, THANK YOU. THIS NEXT QUESTION COMES TO US FROM WASHINGTON.I'M TRAVELING TO KOREA.WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS IN TRAVELING THERE, STAYING THERE, AND QUARANTINE WHEN RETURNING?>> DR. CETRON I THINK I'LL PROBABLY TAKE THAT ONE. RIGHT NOW, KOREA IS NOT A LOCATION THAT EITHER W.H.O. OR CDC HAS INFORMATION ON TO SUGGEST THAT THERE'S ACTIVE TRANSMISSION OF SARS.

THERE'S NO PARTICULAR ALERT OR ADVISORY IN PLACE FOR TRAVELERS TO KOREA.

AND AS FAR AS COMING BACK TO THE UNITED STATES, AS I'VE INDICATED THERE IS NO -- CURRENTLY NO PROCESS, OR NEED FOR USE OF THE QUARANTINE TOOL WITHIN THE

UNITED STATES WITH THE EXTENT OF THE EPIDEMIC AS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IT.

SO NO TRAVELERS RETURNING TO THE UNITED STATES, REGARDLESS OF WHICH COUNTRY THEY'RE RETURNING FROM, ARE ASKED TO BE QUARANTINED FOR ANY PERIOD OF

TIME.>> DR. DANIELS, DR. D'CUNHA, WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU FROM CALIFORNIA: HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT ISOLATION?>> DR. D’CUNHA THAT'S A DIFFICULT NUMBER. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY BEST GUESSTIMATE.WE HAVE ABOUT 5,000 WORKERS IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM FROM THE GROUND UP TO THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL.MY GUESSTIMATE IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM PROBABLY HAD TO SEE DIRECT INVOLVEMENT ON THE PART OF AT LEAST 1,000-1,500 DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEALTH WORKERS

IN DEALING WITH SARS.A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THE SOCIAL FRONT, SUCH AS THE

SALVATION ARMY. AND I'M GOING TO GUESSTIMATE AND SAY PROBABLY A NUMBER OF ALL

THESE OTHER AGENCIES AS IT PERTAINS TO ISOLATION OUT IN THE COMMUNITY SETTING ON THE ORDER OF ABOUT 5,000 TO 6,000 PERSONS. BASICALLY, FOR ABOUT 20,000 PEOPLE IN THE POPULATION – WHO WERE PUT INTO QUARANTINE, WE SAW A WORK FORCE OF ABOUT 6,000 INDIVIDUALS MAKING THAT HAPPEN.>> DR. DANIELS, THIS NEXT QUESTION COMES TO US FROM NORTH CAROLINA: SHOULD WASTE WATER MANAGEMENT WORKERS DO ANYTHING EXTRA TO PROTECT AGAINST SARS? I SEE A HAND RAISED BY DR. JERNIGAN. >> DR. JERNIGAN, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, KYSA. OF COURSE, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE AS WE'VE LEARNED, INDIVIDUALS WITH SARS CAN SHED THE CORONAVIRUS IN THEIR STOOL FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME AFTER THEY BECOME INFECTED.  WE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND YET WHAT THIS PROLONGED SHEDDING, WHAT IMPLICATIONS THIS SHEDDING HAS FOR TRANSMISSION OF THE ILLNESS. WE ARE LOOKING CAREFULLY AT THE ISSUE OF HOW OUR WASTE STREAM IS MANAGED. EPIDEMIOLOGICALLY, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TO DATE THAT THIS IS A SOURCE OF TRANSMISSION. WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THE WAY OUR WASTE WATER AND WASTE IS TREATED IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD BE ADEQUATE IN CONTROLLING THE RISK OF TRANSMISSION. SO FOR NOW, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL PRECAUTIONS, OTHER THAN THE USUAL PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND PRECAUTIONS THAT ARE TAKEN.THERE'S NO NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PRECAUTIONS AT THIS TIME. OF COURSE, WERE CONTINUE OF MONITORING AND LOOKING AT THE EPIDEMIOLOGY, IF THERE'S ANY EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT ADDITIONAL PRECAUTIONS SHOULD BE TAKEN, WE WILL MAKE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE.FOR RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING EXTRA OR SPECIAL NEEDS TO BE DONE. DR. DANIELS, OKAY. WE'RE GETTING CALLS FROM ALL OVER. THIS ONE IS FROM COLORADO. CAN I KEEP AN EMPLOYEE OUT OF WORK IF THEY WENT TO A SARS-AFFECTED AREA? DR. CETRON?>> DR. CETRON, SURE.THIS IS A QUESTION THAT WE GET A LOT.AND AS A RESULT, WE HAVE RECENTLY POSTED ON OUR WEB SITE

PARTICULAR GUIDANCE FOR BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYERS TO DEAL WITH EMPLOYEES RETURNING FROM SARS-AFFECTED AREAS.THE SHORT ANSWER AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS, NO, WE DO NOT FEEL IT IS APPROPRIATE TO FURLOUGH A WORKER RETURNING FROM A SARS

AFFECTED AREA. OUR STRATEGY AND APPROACH HAS BEEN TO TARGET ONLY THOSE FOLKS

WHO DEVELOP SYMPTOMS OR WHO HAD CLOSE CONTACT WITH PROBABLE CASES OF SARS THAT WOULD BE MONITORED – MONITORING THEMSELVES.WE DO NOT FEEL IT IS APPROPRIATE

FOR BUSINESSES TO FURLOUGH WORKERS OR EXCLUDE PEOPLE SIMPLY ON THE BASIS OF A TRAVEL HISTORY ALONE. DR. DANIELS SOMEWHAT OF A LEGAL QUESTION HERE NOW FROM MARYLAND.CAN PEOPLE WITHOUT SARS SYMPTOMS BE FORCED TO BE IN QUARANTINE? MR. MATTEHEWS SURE, I'LL TAKE A SHOT AT THAT. THE QUARANTINE BY DEFINITION IS ISOLATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CLEARLY EXPOSED TO SARS. SO IN THE DEFINITIONS THAT DR. CETRON GAVE EARLY ON, IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH SOMEONE IDENTIFIED AS AN ACTIVE CASE OF SARS TO NEED TO BE ISOLATED, THEY'RE NOT -- OR REALLY, THEY NEED TO BE QUARANTINED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, SHOWING SYMPTOMS.SO YES, IT CAN BE DONE UNDER THE LAWS IN ALL THE STATES AND BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. DR. DANIELS AND I BELIEVE THAT DR. D'CUNHA HAS SOMETHING TO ADD TO THIS. DR. D’CUNHA, SURE. MY COMMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. I'M GOING TO COME AT IT FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE. KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE WHOLE REASON FOR ISOLATING ASYMPTOMATIC CONTACT, ONE CANNOT PREDICT WHICH ONE OF THESE CONTACTS, IF THEY'RE TRUE DIRECT CONTACTS, OR KNOWN PROBABLE CASES OF SARS, WHEN THEY WILL BE SYMPTOMATIC AND CONSEQUENTLY INFECTIOUS. THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR ASKING THEM TO GO INTO ISOLATION. AND THEN YOU DEVELOP THE LEGAL MECHANISMS IN WHICH ONE IS OPERATING TO ENSURE THAT RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN MET. DR. DANIELS, DR. D'CUNHA, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU FROM CALIFORNIA. WHAT DECISION-MAKING WENT INTO CLOSING THE TORONTO HOSPITALS?>> DR. D’CUNHA BASICALLY THERE WERE ONLY TWO HOSPITALS IN THE GREATER TORONTO AREA THAT WERE CLOSED.IT WAS A SCIENCE-BASED DECISION WHERE WE CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED IN BOTH THOSE SETTINGS THE ONGOING IN-HOSPITAL TRANSMISSION BEYOND ONE GENERATION.THE OTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO BEAR IS, IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE OUTBREAK, WE SET IN PLACE A SCIENCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ADVISE US ON THE SCIENCE. AND AS THE STATUTORY OFFICIAL, I HAD TO TAKE THAT ADVICE INTO CONSIDERATION, OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE ON THE MEASURES, AND IMPLEMENT THEM. OKAY. DR. DANIELS AND SOMEONE FROM TENNESSEE STATES THAT THEY HAVE HEARD VARIOUS APPROACHES TO QUARANTINING STUDENTS RETURNING FROM ASIA. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DOES CDC RECOMMEND? DR. CETRON I'LL TAKE THAT ONE AS WELL. I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE VERY HOT QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE OFTEN RECEIVED AS THE GRADUATION SEASON NEARS, AND SUMMER SCHOOLS BEGIN, AND WITH THE DECISIONS THAT SOME OF THE UNIVERSITIES HAVE TAKEN TO THIS APPROACH.LET ME BE ENTIRELY CLEAR: CDC DOES NOT RECOMMEND THE QUARANTINING OF STUDENTS RETURNING FROM ASIA WHO ARE ASYMPTOMATIC. WE RECOMMEND THE USE OF TARGETED MEASURES FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HAD

AN EPIDEMIOLOGIC EXPOSURE AND SYMPTOMS, TO BE APPROPRIATELY ISOLATED.FOR THOSE WITH CLOSE CONTACT, TO BE MONITORED FOR SYMPTOMS. BUT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT RECOMMEND NOR SEE THE NEED FOR AT THE CURRENT TIME WITH THE STATUS OF THE EPIDEMIC IN THE UNITED STATES, FOR ANY TYPE OF QUARANTINE FOR STUDENTS ARRIVING FROM ASIA OR SARS-AFFECTED AREAS. THIS NEXT QUESTION, I THINK, WOULD BE BETTER FOR YOU, DR. LIANG. FROM NEW JERSEY, ARE THERE MATERIALS OR HOTLINES FOR PEOPLE TO GET INFORMATION IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGES ABOUT SARS? DR.LIANG, SURE ACTUALLY, OUR GROUP LEARNED THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY LOTS OF MATERIALS.I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT IN SOME WAYS, CDC IS CATCHING UP, AND WE'VE TRANSLATED, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PAGES ON OUR WEB SITE THAT HAVE BEEN TRANSLATED INTO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. THERE ARE ALSO LOCAL – STATE AND LOCAL HEALTH FOLKS WHO HAVE DONE THE SAME.

THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES. WE JUST CAN'T SPEAK TO THE ACCURACY OF THOSE MATERIALS SINCE WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED THEM, BUT I SUSPECT SOME OF THEM COULD BE VERY USEFUL. WE KNOW THAT -- CDC DOES NOT HAVE A HOTLINE. WE'RE LOOKING INTO PROVIDING INFORMATION THROUGH THE CDC HOTLINE TO MAYBE GET TO SOME

AUDIO INFORMATION. AGAIN, WE'VE HEARD THAT THERE ARE SOME LOCALITIES THAT DO HAVE HOTLINES AND TRANSLATIONS. IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN TRY TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH AND IDENTIFY THEM FOR YOU, IF YOU NEED SOME FOLLOW-UP ON THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION.>> DR. DANIELS THANK YOU, DR. LIANG.I THINK DR. D'CUNHA WHO IS IN CANADA HAS IS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS AS WELL.>> D’CUNHA I WOULD LIKE TO TELL ALL THE VIEWERS THAT THE TORONTO OUTBREAK PEAKED IN MARCH AND APRIL.AROUND MARCH 26th IS THE BULK OF OUR STUDENTS WHO WERE VISITING IN THEIR TRIPS, AND WE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO ASK THEM TO GO INTO ISOLATION, BECAUSE AS IT'S BEEN CORRECTLY POINTED OUT, THAT UNLESS ONE HAD EPIDEMIOLOGICAL LINKAGE, THIS ACTION MADE NO SENSE. WE HAD CONTRADICTORY ADVICE THAT WE PUT OUT, WAS PARENTS GOING TO CHINA TO ADOPT CHINESE BABIES.OUR FEELING WAS, WHEN YOU BRING A CHILD IN WHO'S UNDER A YEAR OF AGE, AS PART OF THE ADJUSTMENT TO A NEW SOCIAL MILIEU, THE CRYING THAT A BABY MAY MANIFEST HAS TO BE SORTED OUT FROM A CRYING POSSIBLY RELATED TO SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF SARS. IN FACT, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE SUSPECT CASES OF SARS IN ADOPTEES. SO ALTHOUGH WE STAYED WITH THE GENERAL ADVICE PROVIDED BY CDC, WE STRAYED A LITTLE FROM THEIR ADVICE AS IT PERTAINED VERY SPECIFICALLY TO THE ADOPTION-RELATED GROUP. AND OUR CONCERN WAS, WHEN A PARENT BRINGS IN AN ADOPTED CHILD, YOU GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF FRIENDS AND RELATIVES VISITING, AND IF ONE OF THESE CHILDREN TURNED OUT TO HAVE SARS, THERE WOULD NOT BE AN END TO OUR OUTBREAK. DR.DANIELS THE NEXT QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA. ARE THERE ASYMPTOMATIC CARRIERS OF THE SARS VIRUS? DR. CETRON LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. WE DON'T KNOW THE CLINICAL SIGNIFICANCE YET ON A POSITIVE CORONAVIRUS TEST. AND I KNOW FULL WELL, IN THE EUROPEAN LABORATORIES, THERE'S CONCORDANCE BETWEEN THE CORONAVIRUS AND THE ILLS. I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENT FROM THE U.S. EXPERIENCE. WE ARE NOT SEEING THE SAME LEVELS OF CONCORDANCE BETWEEN A POSITIVE TEST FOR CORONAVIRUS AND NECESSARILY HAVING SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS.SO THE WAY HOW WE APPROACHED THIS PRACTICALLY ON THE GROUND, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO APPROACH IT: ONCE SOMEBODY IS CLINICALLY AFEBRILE, WE TREAT THEM AS “POTENTIALLY” INFECTIOUS, AND I WANT TO STRESS THE ADJECTIVE POTENTIALLY, FOR A WEEK BEFORE WE CLEAR THEM TO RETURN TO THE FOR COMMUNITY. SO WE DISCHARGED OUR HOSPITAL PATIENTS TO HOME QUARANTINE AFTER THEY WERE AFEBRILE, AND MONITORED THEM FOR AFEBRILE FOR TEN DAYS BEFORE WE CLEARED THEM. DR. JERNIGAN IF I COULD ADD SOMETHING TO THAT IN DISCUSSION WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN CANADA, AND INTERNATIONALLY AND THE EXPERIENCE WE'VE HAD IN THE UNITED STATES, I SHOULD ADD THAT EPIDEMIOLOGICALLY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO DATE THAT ASYMPTOMATIC INDIVIDUALS CAN TRANSMIT THE ILLNESS. WE HAVE SEEN SOME TRANSMISSION IN PATIENTS WHO ARE MILDLY ILL AND IN THE EARLY PHASES OF THEIR ILLNESS. BUT I EMPHASIZE NO TRANSMISSION IN THE EARLY PHASES OF THE ILLNESS. DR. DANIELS THIS QUESTION COMES TO US FROM GERMANY: WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION AND CDC RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING TRAVEL? FOR EXAMPLE, THE CALLER WRITES, THE W.H.O. NO LONGER LISTS TORONTO AND CDC DOES. DR. CETRON I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'M REMINDED THAT IF YOU PUT TWO EPIDEMIOLOGISTS IN A ROOM AND GIVE THEM THE SAME SET OF DATA TO ANALYZE, YOU MIGHT COME OUT WITH THREE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS.SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES THAT OCCUR BETWEEN CDC AND W.H.O. ARE JUST HEALTHY DIFFERENCES OF OPINION LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PIECES OF THE DATA AND TAKING DIFFERENT THINGS INTO ACCOUNT. WITH THAT STATED, I THINK IN FACT THERE'S A FAR AMOUNT OF GREATER CONCORDANCE IN OUR OPINIONS THAN THERE IS DISCORDANCE. WHILE THE W.H.O. CRITERIA FOR GIVING THE ALL-CLEAR SIGNAL IS 20 DAYS AFTER THE LAST CASE WAS ISOLATED, OR LEFT THE COUNTRY, OR DIED, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT SAME INFORMATION. AND THEREFORE, OUR CRITERIA FOR COMING OFF OF TRAVEL ALERT STATUS, THAT IS THE LOWER GRADE,IS 30 DAYS AFTER THE ONSET OF THE LAST CASE. SO FOR US, TORONTO WOULD ACTUALLY BE COMING OFF THAT LIST TODAY. WE WILL BE A FEW DAYS LAGGING BEHIND, KNOWING WE DON'T ALWAYS GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE LAST DATE A CASE WAS ISOLATED. DR. JERNIGAN, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.  DR. JERNIGAN I THINK I MISSPOKE A MOMENT AGO, AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF TRANSMISSION IN THE ASYMPTOMATIC PHASE OF THE DISEASE, RATHER THAN THE EARLY SYMPTOMATIC PHASE LIKE I SAID. SORRY. DR.DANIELS THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. WE UNDERSTAND THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM WISCONSIN: DO YOU SEE SARS AS A SEASONAL PROBLEM? HOW WILL THIS AFFECT, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR FLU VACCINATION EFFORT? I CAN SPEAK A BIT TO THAT. WE DO HAVE EVIDENCE FROM OTHER HUMAN CORONAVIRUSES THAT THOSE PARTICULAR VIRUSES DO TEND TO BE SEASONAL. IN THE SPRING, AND PERHAPS IN THE FALL AND WINTER, VIRAL RESPIRATORY SEASON.WE DO NOT KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE SARS VIRUS. BUT WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT AND CONCERNED THAT WE MIGHT SEE A SEASONAL NATURE TO THIS. ALTHOUGH WE'RE SEEING A DECREASE IN MANY AREAS OF THE WORLD IN THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE BEING REPORTED NOW, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE MIGHT SEE A SECOND WAVE IN THE COMING VIRAL RESPIRATORY SEASON. DR.DANIELS  THIS QUESTION IS FROM VIRGINIA: GIVEN THE PRESENCE OF VIRAL RNA IN STOOL, IS THERE ANY RISK OF FOOD FOREIGN SARS TRANSMISSION? DR.JERIGAN I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT AS WELL. AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROLONGED SHEDDING IN THE STOOL VIRUS, WHAT IMPLICATIONS THIS SHEDDING HAS FOR TRANSMISSION OF THE ILLNESS.WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE FOR FOOD-BORNE TRANSMISSION FOR THIS DISEASE TO DATE.AND WE THINK THAT ROUTINE PRECAUTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR FOOD-HANDLERS AND OTHERS, IN THE NORMAL WAY THAT FOOD SHOULD BE PREPARED IN A SAFE MANNER,

THE HAND HYGIENE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, THAT IF THESE SAME MEASURES ARE FOLLOWED, THE SAME MEASURES THAT WOULD PREVENT TRANSMISSION OF OTHER INFECTIOUS

DISEASES SHOULD BE ADEQUATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ILLNESS. DR. DANIELS OKAY. FROM CONNECTICUT, HOW DO WE EFFECTIVELY ENFORCE ISOLATION WHEN THE SARS-INFECTED PERSON IS RESISTANCE? IS COURT-ENFORCED ACTION AN OPTION? MR.MATTHEWS I CAN TAKE A SHOT AT THAT. FIRST OF ALL, A PERSON CAN BE ORDERED INTO ISOLATION, LIKE IN THE ONTARIO SITUATION, CAN BE ORDERED INTO ISOLATION BY AN ORDER OF A HEALTH OFFICER WITH APPROPRIATE JURISDICTION AND AUTHORIZATION. IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A COURT ORDER TO BE OBTAINED FIRST. BUT CLEARLY, SOMEONE CAN BE ORDERED, AND IT'S A LEGALLY BINDING ORDER AS I INDICATED IN THE PRESENTATION, VIOLATION OF THESE ORDERS WOULD BE A CRIMINAL

VIOLATION. AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS CAN BE -- CAN ASSIST, AS DR. D'CUNHA INDICATED IN HELPING CARRY OUT THE ENFORCEMENT.I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO

REMEMBER, THOUGH, THAT WE HAVE BEEN VERY PLEASED AT THE PUBLIC COOPERATION IN DEALING WITH THE QUEST FOR VOLUNTARY ISOLATION AND VOLUNTARY QUARANTINE.\E

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS CULTURAL GAP THAT WE HAVE OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS HAS NOT REALLY RESULTED IN ANY DEMONSTRABLE DROP-OFF IN THE SPIRIT OF PUBLIC COOPERATION THAT WAS PRESENT 50 YEARS AGO, OR 100 YEARS AGO. SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WORTH CONTINUING TO MONITOR. AND I THINK THE DATA FROM

HARVARD UNIVERSITY SHOWS VERY HIGH PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE, AND SPIRIT OF COOPERATION IN THIS MATTER. DR.DANIELS MR. MATTHEWS, THANK YOU.AND DR. LIANG, I THINK THIS

QUESTION IS DIRECTED AT THE STUDY THAT YOU CONDUCTED.AND THE PERSON FROM NASHVILLE WANTS TO KNOW, HOW HAS THE COMMUNITY RESPONDED TO YOUR OUTREACH EFFORTS? HAS IT MADE A DIFFERENCE IN REDUCING STIGMATIZATION? DR.LIANG GOOD QUESTION.I THINK WE'RE SORT OF EARLY ON.WE'VE JUST COMPLETED SOME VISITS AS OF LAST WEEK, THAT THE GENERAL RECEPTION REPORTED IS FAVORABLE.BUT I THINK IT STILL REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW THE COMMUNITY ACCEPTS -- HOW IT ITSELF RESPONDS.THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH INTENSELY, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, AND THAT'S BEEN GOOD.I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REEMPHASIZE, THAT FROM THE CALL, THE HOTLINE DATA, STIGMA IN THE GENERAL POPULATION DIRECTED TOWARD THESE GROUPS, WHETHER THEY'RE ASIAN-AMERICANS, HEALTH CARE WORKERS OR AIRLINE WORKERS IS LOW, VERY LOW TO BEGIN WITH, AND REMAINS LOW. DR.DANIELS OKAY.THIS NEXT QUESTION IS, IF THE RISK IS LOWER NOW, HOW CAN WE PREPARE NOW FOR AN OUTBREAK IN THE FALL? DR. CETRON I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE A CRACK AT THAT.I THINK THAT WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE SEEN THE LESSONS LEARNED BY SEVERAL COUNTRIES THAT HAVE BEEN HARD HIT BY LOCAL CHAINS OF TRANSMISSION AND COMMUNITY SPREAD AND THE LESSON FROM EVERY ONE OF THEM IS THE IMPORTANCE OF PREPAREDNESS AND PLANNING.AND IDENTIFYING THE RESOURCES IN ADVANCE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO CONTAIN AN EPIDEMIC OF SARS, AND WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT VIGILANCE.WE NEED TO KEEP OUR GUARD UP IN TERMS OF IMPORTATION OF NEW CASES, OUR HEALTH CARE COMMUNITIES AND TRAVELERS ON ALERT TO THE SYMPTOMS. BUT WE ALSO NEED WITHIN OUR LOCAL, COMMUNITY AND STATE LEVELS AS WELL AS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO BEGIN PLANNING NOW FOR HOW WE WOULD IMPLEMENT ISOLATION

AND QUARANTINE TOOLS AS WE HAVE HERD SO ELOQUENTLY FROM DR. D'CUNHA AND OTHERS, AND AS WE HAVE WITNESSED IN VIETNAM, SINGAPORE, IS GOING ON IN TAIWAN.SO I THINK THAT ACTIVELY ENGAGING IN THE LESSONS LEARNED AND DEVELOPING AN OPERATIONAL

PLAN AT THE LOCAL AND THE STATE LEVEL IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. DR.DANIELS AND DR. D'CUNHA, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THIS? DR. D’CUNHA YES. JUST TO REINFORCE WHAT WAS SAID, WHAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR IS WE DON'T HAVE IT -- AN EPIDEMIC OR ONGOING TRANSMISSION IN NORTH AMERICA, NOW THAT WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY PUT THE CAT BACK IN THE BOX, IF I CAN PUT IT SIMPLY.

WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THE IMPORTATION OF CASES AS LONG AS THE SARS IS SEEN IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS ON THE GROUND TO SUSPECT SARS AND IN PARTICULAR TO TAKE A GOOD TRAVEL EPIDEMIOLOGICAL HISTORY. WE'VE GOT TO BACK IT UP WITH A GOOD HEALTH SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM. AND, AS HAS BEEN CORRECTLY POINTED OUT, WE VERY CLEARLY NEED TO HAVE OUR PLANS TO DEAL WITH ISOLATION AND CONTAINMENT IF THAT'S WHERE WE END UP HAVING

TO GO. DR.DANIELS I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT DR. D'CUNHA IS JOINING US FROM ONTARIO, CANADA. THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM GEORGIA. HOW LONG AFTER RECOVERY IS A SARS PATIENT CONTAGIOUS? DR. JERNIGAN I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.SIMPLE ANSWER IS, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.OUR GUIDANCE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES IS PATIENTS SHOULD BE KEPT IN ISOLATION FOR TEN DAYS AFTER RESOLUTION OF FEVER, PRESUMING RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS ARE IMPROVING, OR ARE ABSENT. AGAIN, AS I'VE ALLUDED TO BEFORE THERE ARE DATA FROM HONG KONG AND ELSEWHERE THAT PATIENTS MAY SHED THE VIRUS FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME IN VARIOUS BODY FLUIDS, INCLUDING URINE, RESPIRATORY SECRETIONS AND STOOL.THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THIS, FOR COMMUNICABILITY ARE KNOWN AT THIS TIME.WE'RE NOT AWARE OF LARGE NUMBERS OF REPORTS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRANSMITTED THE VIRUS IN THEIR CONVALESCENT PHASE.BUT WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT AND  CAREFUL ABOUT THIS.AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THE EPIDEMIOLOGIC STUDY TO ANSWER THIS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION. DR. DANIELS THIS NEXT QUESTION IS FROM OHIO. WHILE TRYING TO MAKE OUR EMERGENCY PLAN, IS THERE A NEED TO PLAN FOR A NON-HOSPITAL ISOLATION PERIOD? DR. JERIGAN I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT.I THINK THAT THIS IS CRITICAL.I THINK WE NEED HOSPITALIZATION PLANS FOR PEOPLE, ONE, THAT ARE SICK ENOUGH TO REQUIRE HOSPITALIZATION, AND POSSIBLY FOR FOLKS TO BE ISOLATED THAT HAVE NO OTHER LOCATION FOR ISOLATION.BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING MORE ABOUT DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES FOR BOTH ISOLATION

AND QUARANTINE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE NOT SICK ENOUGH TO REQUIRE HOSPITALIZATION, BUT ARE NOT IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN BE HOME -- ISOLATED OR QUARANTINED

AT HOME. THAT IS, THE PERSON IN TRANSIT OR THE PERSON FOR WHOM THEIR HOME IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE FACILITY FOR ISOLATION AND QUARANTINE.SO, YEAH, WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING THAT.AND WE'VE SEEN, AS BUDGET CUTBACKS AND THINGS HAVE OCCURRED, THE SORT OF CLOSURE OF SOME OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES FOR MANAGING TUBERCULOSIS PATIENTS WHO ARE IN A RECOVERY MODE OR SOMETHING IN THE PAST.AND WE HAVE TO THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT FINDING NEW PLACES FOR THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES.

DR.DANIELS WE WANT TO BRING TO THE VIEWERS' ATTENTION THAT WE ARE RUNNING A LITTLE LONG. LONGER FOR THIS BROADCAST. AND YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO STAY WITH US. WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE WHO ASKS A QUESTION AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.NOW WE WANT TO GO TO DR. D'CUNHA IN CANADA. DR. D’CUNHASURE.WHAT I DIDN'T TELL YOU OVER THE COURSE OF MY PRESENTATION WAS, OCCURRING OVER THE COURSE OF THE OUTBREAK, WE HAD TO ADDRESS A NEED FOR FINDING RESIDENTIAL SPACE FOR FOLKS WHO COULDN'T BE ISOLATED AT HOME AND WHO WERE NOT SICK ENOUGH TO BE IN ONE OF OUR HOSPITAL FACILITIES.SO WE TOOK OVER TWO LONG-TERM CARE RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITIES CALLED THEM OUR SARS ISOLATION FACILITIES, WITH A BED CAPACITY

OF 500 IN BOTH OF THEM, AND SUCCESSFULLY ISOLATED PEOPLE THERE.SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL, AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, THAT WE DRAW THE ON-THE-GROUND PLANS FOR HOSPITAL ISOLATION, AND HOME ISOLATION AND FACILITY ISOLATION.

DR.DANIELS THIS QUESTION IS FROM LOUISIANA.IS THE UNITED STATES PERFORMING ANY MANDATORY QUARANTINING OF TRAVELERS? DR.CETRON NO.THE ANSWER TO OUR VIEWERS IS THAT WE ARE NOT PERFORMING ANY MANDATORY QUARANTINING OF TRAVELERS FROM SARS AFFECTED AREAS OR OTHER AREAS AT THIS TIME.AND SO FAR, THE STRATEGY OF RAPID DETECTION AND ISOLATION WITHOUT THE NEED FOR FULL-SCALE QUARANTINE HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE IN THE UNITED STATES, RECOGNIZING WE'VE HAD A VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN THE TORONTO EXPERIENCE THAT DR. D'CUNHA MENTIONED.AND THOSE OF SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES.IN ADDITION, WERE WE TO USE QUARANTINE, IT WOULD NOT BE SORT OF LOOSELY TAILED TO ALL RETURNING TRAVELERS.WE WOULD TRY TO TARGET THIS KIND OF RESTRICTED MOVEMENT TO ONLY CLOSE CONTACTS OF PROBABLE CASES WHERE WE WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RISK OF EXPOSURE.SO IT WOULD BE MORE NARROWLY

APPLYING THE TOOLS WERE WE TO CONDITION TEMPLATE ITS USE. DR. DANIELS FROM NEW YORK, IF SARS IS NOT AN AIRBORNE VIRUS, WHY DO WE NEED TO FIT TEST FOR MASKS IN A CLINICAL SETTING? DR.JERNIGAN I'LL TAKE THAT QUESTION.WE'RE STILL LEARNING ABOUT THE MODES OF TRANSMISSION FOR THIS VIRUS.AND IT'S CLEAR THAT THE EPIDEMIOLOGY SO FAR SUGGESTS THAT MOST TRANSMISSION TAKES PLACE EITHER BY THE LARGE AEROSOL DROPLET FORM, WHICH REQUIRES THAT YOU BE CLOSE TO THE PATIENT, OR BY DIRECT CONTACT, OR POTENTIALLY INDIRECT CONTACT FOR CONTAMINATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. BUT THERE ARE WORRISOME EXAMPLES.THEY APPEAR TO BE THE MINORITY EXAMPLES.  BUT THE FEW EXAMPLES OF TRANSMISSION IN WHICH WE CANNOT RULE OUT AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION. IN PARTICULAR, WE'RE QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT, IN THE HOSPITAL SETTING, WHEN AEROSOL GENERATING PROCEDURES, SUCH AS INTUBATION OR BRONCHOSCOPY ARE BEING PERFORMED, THIS MIGHT IN SOME WAY GENERATE AEROSOLS THAT CAN BE TRANSMITTED BY THE TRUE AIRBORNE ROUTE. AND IN THAT REGARD, WE'VE ACTUALLY UPDATED AND REVISED OUR GUIDANCE FOR INFECTION CONTROL PRECAUTIONS THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN DURING AEROSOL GENERATING PROCEDURES.AND THAT IS TO BE POSTED ON OUR WEB SITE TODAY. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK OUT FOR THAT.SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS, WE CAN'T RULE OUT AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION IN EVERY SETTING.AGAIN, THE MAJORITY SEEMS TO BE NOT AIRBORNE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE MAY NOT BE CERTAIN

SITUATIONS IN WHICH AIRBORNE PRECAUTIONS DOES OCCUR.I WILL POINT OUT THAT AN

INVESTIGATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH CANADA OF A CLUSTER OF INFECTIONS AMONG HEALTH CARE WORKERS SURROUNDING AN AEROSOL GENERATING EVENT THAT WAS DESCRIBED IN OUR LAST WEEK'S MMWR, THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT FIT TESTING COULD HAVE BEEN AN

ISSUE IN THAT REGARD.SO WE THINK THAT EVERY PRECAUTION SHOULD BE TAKEN TO

PREVENT ANY POTENTIAL MODE OF TRANSMISSION FOR THIS PARTICULAR ILLNESS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SETTING OF AEROSOL GENERATING PROCEDURES.THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONTINUE AIRBORNE PRECAUTIONS, PART OF WHICH INCLUDES A COMPREHENSIVE FIT TESTING PROGRAM. DR.DANIELS WE WANT TO PITCH IT TO TORONTO OR DR. D'CUNHA HAS SOME COMMENTS ON THIS. DR.D’CUNHA SURE.I DON'T GENERALLY LIKE TO USE ANECDOTAL DATA, BUT I'M GOING TO USE TWO ANECDOTES TO ENFORCE THE POINT THAT MY COLLEAGUE MADE. AND BEAR IN THE INDULGENCE OF CDC AND CANADA. BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE FINISH THE INVESTIGATION, WE'LL CLEARLY HAVE IT PUBLISHED IN THE MMWR. ONE OF OUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS HE WAS NOT PROPERLY TESTED WITH THE 95. LEADING US TO CONCLUDE THAT FIT TESTING WAS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.

AND THE OTHER INSTANCE THAT IS AN ANECDOTE TO THE SCIENTIFIC PART IS WE HAD A SITUATION WE HAD OVER THE EASTER WEEKEND,  WHERE A BUNCH OF OUR HEALTH CARE

WORKERS SUBSEQUENTLY CAME DOWN WITH PROBABLE SARS, WHO HAD OTHERWISE FOLLOWED ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS LED US TO CONCLUDE THAT WHILE WE STILL BELIEVE IT'S NOT AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION, DROPLET SPREAD; CLEARLY THE FACE SHIELD OR PROPER EYE-FITTING WEAR AND TESTING OF THE MASK ARE CRITICAL.  DR. DANIELS OKAY, DR. D'CUNHA. THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR FINAL QUESTION: WE'RE HEARING NEWS REPORTS THAT SARS IS SLOWING DOWN, THAT THE EMERGENCY IS OVER. IS THIS TRUE?

 

WELL, IT IS TRUE THAT WE ARE OVER THE LAST DAYS, MANY OF THE CENTERS AROUND THE WORLD ARE REPORTING A DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF REPORTED CASES.THIS IS NOT UNIVERSALLY TRUE.I THINK IN TAIWAN, THEY'RE STILL SEEING QUITE A BIT OF TRANSMISSION, AND IT'S A BIT TOUGH TO TELL WHERE THEY ARE IN THE COURSE OF THEIR EPIDEMIC CURVE.WHILE ENCOURAGING IN MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD, I THINK WE HAVE TO REMAIN VIGILANT.WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR VIRUS.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR SEASONALITY. EVEN THOUGH HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, WE'VE SEEN FEWER CASES OF, AS OF LATE, IN CANADA AND ELSEWHERE AROUND THE WORLD. IT'S POSSIBLE WE MIGHT SEE A NEW WAVE OF TRANSMISSION IN THE

FUTURE. I THINK WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT COULD BE THE CASE.AND THAT MAKES THE ISSUE OF PREPAREDNESS SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.I THINK IF THE CASES ARE GOING DOWN, WE SHOULD VIEW THIS AS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE

LESSONS LEARNED FROM WHAT'S JUST HAPPENED, AND TURN THAT INTO ACTIVE PREPARATION, ASSUMING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE, SO THAT WE'LL BE WELL PREPARED AND BE ABLE TO CONTROL THAT. DR. JERNIGAN LET ME JUST ADD ONE FINAL COMMENT.I THINK THAT ONE OF THE CLEAR LESSONS LEARNED IN ALL OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN BATTLING SARS AND CONTAINING IT IS THAT IT HAS REQUIRED BOLD AND SWIFT ACTION WITH PRUDENCE AND MEASURED RESPONSE TARGETED TO THE VIRUS AND THE BEHAVIORS THAT CAN CONTAIN THIS EPIDEMIC. AND THE SUCCESS IN MANY PLACES SPEAKS TO OUR NEED TO BE PREPARED TO IMPLEMENT THOSE BOLD AND SWIFT MEASURES WHILE MAINTAINING THE BALANCE AND PREVENTING STIGMATIZATION. DR.DANIELS THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE ARE OUT OF TIME OR JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME. BUT IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERED, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS BY FAX TO 800-553-6323 OR E-MAIL US AT PHTN AT CDC.GOV. FOR OTHER QUESTIONS, REMEMBER TO VISIT THE CDC AND WORLD HEALTH

ORGANIZATION WEB SITES FOR THE LATEST INFORMATION ON SARS.THOSE ADDRESSES, AGAIN, ARE, FIRST AT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION. THEIR WEB SITE IS

WWW.WHO.INT, AND THEN THE WEB ADDRESS FOR THE CDC IS WWW.CDC.GOV.PARTICIPANTS OF THIS BROADCAST ARE ENCOURAGED, BUT NOT REQUIRED TO REGISTER AND EVALUATE THE

PROGRAM ON THE CDC TRAINING AND CONTINUING EDUCATION ONLINE SYSTEM. THAT ADDRESS IS WWW.PHPPO.CDC.GOV/PHTNONLINE.PARTICIPANTS’ REGISTRATION AND

EVALUATION WILL BEGIN MAY 20th,2003 AND THEN IN THE MONTH LATER ON

JUNE 20th, 2003.HERE ARE THE COURSE NUMBERS THAT YOU'LL NEED.THE NUMBER FOR THE SATELLITE BROADCAST IS SB 0133.THE WEB CAST NUMBER, WC 0033.QUESTIONS ABOUT REGISTRATION SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO 800-41-TRAIN, 404-639-1292.OR E-MAIL CE AT CDC.GOV AND WHEN E-MAILING A REQUEST, PLEASE INDICATE SARS 3 IN THE SUBJECT LINE. THIS CERTAINLY HAS BEEN MY PLEASURE BEING YOUR MODERATOR FOR THIS BROADCAST. WE WANT TO THANK DR. CETRON ONCE AGAIN. WE WANT TO THANK MR. GENE

MATTHEWS. WE WANT TO THANK DR. LIANG, DR. JERNIGAN, AND IN TORONTO, CANADA,

DR. D'CUNHA.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US AND GOOD-BYE TO ALL OF YOU FROM ALL OF US AT THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION

IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA.