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Hrg. 109-13 NATIVE HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT REORGANIZATION ACT ======================================================================= HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION ON S. 147 TO EXPRESS THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES REGARDING THE UNITED STATES RELATIONSHIP WITH NATIVE HAWAIIANS AND TO PROVIDE A PROCESS FOR THE RECOGNITION BY THE UNITED STATES OF THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN GOVERNING ENTITY ---------- MARCH 1, 2005 WASHINGTON, DC NATIVE HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT REORGANIZATION ACT U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 99-723 WASHINGTON : 2005 _____________________________________________________________________________ For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512ÿ091800 Fax: (202) 512ÿ092250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402ÿ090001 S. Hrg. 109-13 NATIVE HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT REORGANIZATION ACT ======================================================================= HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION ON S. 147 TO EXPRESS THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES REGARDING THE UNITED STATES RELATIONSHIP WITH NATIVE HAWAIIANS AND TO PROVIDE A PROCESS FOR THE RECOGNITION BY THE UNITED STATES OF THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN GOVERNING ENTITY __________ MARCH 1, 2005 WASHINGTON, DC ? COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS JOHN McCAIN, Arizona, Chairman BYRON L. DORGAN, North Dakota, Vice Chairman PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico DANIEL K. INOUYE, Hawaii CRAIG THOMAS, Wyoming KENT CONRAD, North Dakota GORDON SMITH, Oregon DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii LISA MURKOWSKI, Alaska TIM JOHNSON, South Dakota MICHAEL D. CRAPO, Idaho MARIA CANTWELL, Washington RICHARD BURR, North Carolina TOM COBURN, M.D., Oklahoma Jeanne Bumpus, Majority Staff Director Patricia M. Zell, Minority Staff Director/Chief Counsel (ii) C O N T E N T S ---------- Page S. 147, text of.................................................. 3 Statements: Akaka, Hon. Daniel K., U.S. Senator from Hawaii.............. 41 Apoliona, Haunani, chairperson, Board of Trustees, Office of Hawaiian Affairs........................................... 51 Bennett, Mark, attorney general, State of Hawaii............. 46 Case, Hon. Ed, U.S. Representative from Hawaii............... 42 Danner, Jade, director, Government Affairs and Community Consultation, Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement...... 55 Dorgan, Hon. Byron L., U.S. Senator from North Dakota, vice chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs...................... 40 Faleomavaega, Hon. Eni F.H., U.S. Delegate from American Samoa...................................................... 43 Hall, Tex, president, National Congress of American Indians.. 53 Kane, Micah, chairman, Hawaiian Homes Commission............. 51 Kitka, Julie, president, Alaska Federation of Natives........ 53 Lingle, Linda, Governor, from Hawaii......................... 46 McCain, Hon. John, U.S. Senator from Arizona, chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs................................ 1 Appendix Prepared statements: Abercrombie, Hon. Neil, U.S. Representative from Hawaii...... 63 Aina, Nellie................................................. 197 Apio, Leialoha............................................... 196 Apoliona, Haunani (with attachment).......................... 69 Burgess, H. William, attorney................................ 88 Case, Hon. Ed, U.S. Representative from Hawaii............... 64 Conklin, Kenneth R., Ph.D.................................... 94 Crowell Jr., Harold K.,...................................... 184 Crowell, MaryAnn............................................. 185 Danner, Jade (with attachment)............................... 99 Danner, Robin Puanani, president and CEO, Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement....................................... 104 Dorgan, Hon. Byron L., U.S. Senator from North Dakota, vice chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs...................... 65 Fyfe, Kai'opua, director, The Koani Foundation............... 106 Gaui, Michelle K............................................. 193 Garcia-Ballard, Li, president, Native Hawaiian Economic Alliance................................................... 107 Hall, Tex (with attachment).................................. 108 Huihui, Lavaina.............................................. 192 Inouye, Hon. Daniel K., U.S. Senator from Hawaii............. 65 Johnson, Hokuala............................................. 112 Johnson, Rubellite Kawena Kinney............................. 113 Kai, Ka'onohi Keali'iokapo................................... 118 Kama Jr, Herman Kahalenani................................... 119 Kama, Luana Na'mi............................................ 120 Keppeler, H.K. Bruss, chairman, Government Relations Committee, Native Hawaiian Chamber of Commerce............. 121 Kuroiwa Jr., James Isamu..................................... 123 Lagon, Olin Kealoha, chief executive officer, Hawaiian Homestead Technology, Inc.................................. 126 Lau, Brandi Ka'ala, vice president, Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement....................................... 127 Laughlin, Michael............................................ 189 Lee Loy, Emmett E., attorney (with attachment)............... 128 Lingle, Linda, Governor, from Hawaii......................... 66 Loa, Chief Maui, Hou Band of Native Hawaiians of the Blood of Hawaii (with attachment)................................... 152 Loui, Miriam P., president, NHBA Board of Directors.......... 179 Mokiao, Raymond and Annie.................................... 186 Nahoopii, Daniel K........................................... 180 Nakoa, Austin P., chairman, Native Hawaiian Economic Alliance 182 Naleieha, Abigail L.......................................... 183 Namu'o, Clyde W., administrator, Office of Hawaiian Affairs (with letters)............................................. 198 Oshiro, Lisa C............................................... 456 Peahi Jr., Apela............................................. 458 Richards, Paul Pakahanui..................................... 459 Rodrigues, Joe............................................... 461 Sang Sr., Anthony H., chairman, State Council of Hawaiian Homestead Associations (with attachment)................... 462 Sang, Dawn K................................................. 191 Sang, JoAnn U................................................ 188 Sang, Roy Kaleo.............................................. 190 Schoettle, Walter, R., attorney (with attachment)............ 465 Young, Candy................................................. 187 Young, Elaine................................................ 195 Young, Stephan............................................... 194 Additional material submitted for the record: Kanahele, Pu'uhonua Dennis Bumpy, lecture by Professor Francis Anthony Boyle on December 28, 2004................. 484 Letters...................................................... 498 NATIVE HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT REORGANIZATION ACT ---------- TUESDAY, MARCH 1, 2005 U.S. Senate, Committee on Indian Affairs, Washington, DC. The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m. in room 485, Russell Senate Building, Hon. John McCain (chairman of the committee) presiding. Present: Senators McCain, Akaka, and Dorgan. STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN McCAIN, U.S. SENATOR FROM ARIZONA, CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS The Chairman. Good morning. Please take your seats and we will begin the hearing on time. I am pleased to convene this hearing this morning on S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act of 2005, which my friends from Hawaii, Senators Akaka and Inouye have worked so hard to advance. I might add that Senator Inouye is ill this morning. I got a call from him. He is a little under the weather, and so he will not be here this morning, but he obviously has a very longstanding commitment and involvement on this issue. S. 147 legislates a process whereby Native Hawaiians can re-constitute a governmental entity. The history of the Hawaiian Islands and their annexation in the United States is not one of the shining moments in our history. That said, my reservations with this legislation have been reported more widely, in fact, than I anticipated. First, I want to be sure that the recognition of a Native Hawaiian government is not inconsistent with any understanding or agreements at the time of statehood in 1959. My staff on the Indian Affairs Committee has been researching this issue and I am sure others have been doing that as well. Second, I think the bill should not be read to release the State of Hawaii of any liabilities it has incurred or any obligations that it undertook as part of the statehood process. Finally, I feel that the resources are currently available to the Bureau of Indian Affairs, the Indian Health Service and other Federal agencies conducting Indian programs are already inadequate to meet the needs of Indian people. We want to be very careful about spreading it any thinner than they already are with the addition of a large population of new program recipients. I look forward to addressing these issues this morning. I understand that there are many people who have asked to testify today who we could not accommodate, including the Association of Hawaiian Civic Clubs. Regrettably, although our committee invited the Department of Justice to testify, they chose not to send a witness to today's hearing. I hope we can get the Administration's views on this bill at a later time. [Text of S. 147 follows:] <GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT> The Chairman. Please know that the committee will very carefully consider any written testimony it receives. I thank you all for being here, and I want to emphasize I am keeping an open mind on this issue. I have reservations, but I think those reservations will be ventilated here in this hearing process. Senator Dorgan. STATEMENT OF HON. BYRON L. DORGAN, U.S. SENATOR FROM NORTH DAKOTA, VICE CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS Senator Dorgan. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. Let me just as a point of personal privilege as we begin this process say that this is the last hearing that will be attended by Patricia Zell, who has been the chief of staff on the minority side for so many years. She has worked with this committee for 24 years. There is perhaps no one in this country who is as knowledgeable and has committed their lives quite as wholly as Patricia Zell has to so many important causes. The committee will miss her expertise, but let all of us thank her for the wonderful service she has given to this country over these many years. [Applause.] Senator Dorgan. I will at the next hearing introduce Sara Garland who is succeeding Patricia Zell in this role. In the meantime, let me thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing. Let me welcome the Governor and the two members of Congress. I think that our Senators, the two Senators from Hawaii, both of whom serve on this committee, have done an extraordinary job in laying out a process here that I think is reasonable and prudent and which will enable three levels of government here to develop a working relationship with one another that will be premised upon the consensus that will have to be built even after we pass this legislation, if we pass the legislation. I might say that I am inclined to be supportive of it. I think that this is a really important issue and an interesting issue. I will say, as the chairman did, that Senator Inouye, for whom this is an extraordinarily important issue, is not able to be with us today due to an illness, but I know Senator Akaka will ably represent him and the delegation today. I thank Congressman Case and also Congressman Faleomavaega for being with us. I have had the opportunity to visit with the chair of the Board of Trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and others, and learned that through this bill the Native Hawaiian people are asking for a status under Federal law that is equal to that of America's other native peoples, American Indians and Alaska Natives. This is just a really important issue where I am very pleased, Mr. Chairman, that you have called a hearing on this as early as we have. I look forward to hearing all of the witnesses. Let me ask that my full statement be made a part of the record, and also that the opening statement of Senator Inouye be made a part of the record. The Chairman. Without objection. [Prepared statements of Senators Dorgan and Inouye appear in appendix.] The Chairman. Senator Akaka. STATEMENT OF HON. DANIEL K. AKAKA, U.S. SENATOR FROM HAWAII Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I thank you very much for holding this hearing. Mr. Chairman, I want you to know that I am joining you on this committee and will be working with you with much aloha coming from Hawaii, and tell you that I really appreciate what you are doing for Hawaii and the people of Hawaii today by having this hearing. As you know, this is the fourth Congress in which this committee is considering this legislation. Time has really flown. Our committee favorably reported the bill in the 106th Congress, the 107th, and 108th and here we are now in the 109th Congress. I am hopeful and confident that our colleagues on this committee will once again support our efforts to extend the Federal policy of self-governance and self-determination to Native Hawaiians. Mr. Chairman, I want to begin by thanking Hawaii's Governor Linda Lingle for joining us this morning. Since her election in 2002, I have worked closely with Governor Lingle and appreciate all that she has done in working to gain the support of the Bush administration for the enactment of this bill. Governor Lingle's support demonstrates an important facet of this bill, the fact that for the people of Hawaii addressing the condition of Hawaii's indigenous peoples, Native Hawaiians, is a non- partisan priority. Anyone who has lived in Hawaii has experienced the aloha spirit, a special attitude which exudes happiness and generosity toward all. The aloha spirit for which the people of Hawaii is known is grounded in the culture and tradition of Hawaii's indigenous peoples. For that reason, Hawaii's citizens, whether or not they are Native Hawaiian, appreciate and support efforts to preserve the culture and tradition of Native Hawaiians. A large majority of Hawaii's residents support our efforts to enact this bill because it is the right thing to do for Native Hawaiians and for the people of Hawaii. The Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act does three things. It establishes the Office of Native Hawaiian Relations in the Department of the Interior to serve as a liaison between Native Hawaiians and the United States. It establishes a Native Hawaiian Interagency Coordinating Group to be composed of Federal officials from agencies which administer Native Hawaiian programs. Both of these provisions are intended to increase coordination between the Native Hawaiians and the Federal Government. Finally, the bill provides a process of reorganization of the Native Hawaiian governing entity. I am very proud of the fact that while the bill provides structure to the process, it also provides the Native Hawaiian community with the flexibility to truly reorganize the governing entity. Mr. Chairman, as you may recall, in 1993 we enacted legislation I drafted which is referred to as the Apology Resolution. The resolution apologized for the actions of U.S. agents in the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii. The resolution also addressed a process of reconciliation between Native Hawaiians and the United States. The process of reconciliation involves an incremental dialog between Native Hawaiians and the United States to discuss many of the longstanding issues resulting from the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii. My bill, Mr. Chairman, provides the structure for this process of reconciliation. The bill provides that following Federal recognition of the Native Hawaiian governing entity, the Federal and State Governments and the Native Hawaiian government will begin negotiations to address matters such as the transfer of lands, natural resources and other assets; the exercise of governmental authority over such lands and resources; the exercise of civil and criminal jurisdiction; and the exercise of governmental powers and authorities by the Native Hawaiian government. This, for me, Mr. Chairman, will be a large step in the process of reconciliation. For too long, the people of Hawaii have lacked a structured process to deal with these issues. This bill holds the promise for all of us in Hawaii to come to terms with Hawaii's unique and often painful history, to rectify inequities, and to move on as a State. It is for this reason that I have worked so hard over the past six years to enact this measure. I believe this bill is critical for Native Hawaiians who seek greater autonomy over the use of their lands and natural resources and programs and services. I also believe that this measure is just as important for non-Native Hawaiians as it provides us with a process to finally, after 112 years, begin to resolve the longstanding issues which resulted from what is considered by many to be the most poignant experiences in Hawaii's history, and that is the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii. Our Native brothers and sisters in Alaska and in Indian country understand our efforts. I want to thank them. I really want to thank them for their unending support over the years. They have always, always been willing to work with us to ensure that we benefit from the lessons they have learned. We are gaining for it. For this generosity, we will always be indebted to them. I ask each of my colleagues here to stand with us as we work to extend the Federal policy of self-governance and self- determination to Hawaii's indigenous peoples, an effort for those in Hawaii that erases the boundaries between political parties and differences. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for this opportunity to make my statement. The Chairman. Thank you very much, Senator Akaka. We are always pleased to have our colleagues from the other side of the Capitol here to join us to make brief statements. We are very glad to see you. Honorable Faleomavaega, we are glad to see you again, and Congressman Case. Whoever wishes to go first, please proceed. STATEMENT OF HON. ED CASE, U.S. REPRESENTATIVE FROM HAWAII Mr. Case. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Senator Dorgan, Senator Akaka, members of the committee. Good morning and aloha. I appreciate the opportunity to appear before you, as the proud representative of the congressional district with the most Native Hawaiians of any district in our country, in unqualified support of S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act, as well as its House counterpart, H.R. 309, introduced by me and my colleagues Mr. Abercrombie, Mr. Faleomavaega, and others. You have my written testimony, so allow me to make five brief points. First, please have no doubt that this is the most important single piece of legislation affecting both Native Hawaiians and all of our Hawaii to come before Congress since 1959. Second, that is because Federal recognition represents the long overdue, long-missing framework for Native Hawaiians to affirm and continue their longstanding relationship with the United States and achieve permanent and sustainable autonomy as exists for other indigenous peoples of our country. Third, this must be accomplished not only to assure the survival and prosperity of the Native Hawaiian people and culture wherever they may live, but because Native Hawaiians are the very core of my Hawaii, of our Hawaii itself. For that reason, Federal recognition is indispensable not only for Native Hawaiians, but for all of us in Hawaii. Fourth, we in Hawaii and beyond, with the other indigenous peoples of our country, have a broad-based consensus that this is what we want and need to do and must do. Fifth, this bill provides each and all of the United States and Native Hawaiians with a reasonable structure under which to negotiate the details that you, Mr. Chair, referred to, and affirm Federal recognition so that specific concerns can and, I have great confidence, ultimately will,be worked out. Mr. Chair and members, we ask you to let this bill go, to embrace it as we have, to do what is right and just and necessary for all of us. Mahalo. [Prepared statement of Representative Case appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you very much, Congressman Case. STATEMENT OF HON. ENI F.H. FALEOMAVAEGA, U.S. DELEGATE FROM AMERICAN SAMOA Mr. Faleomavaega. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Senator Dorgan, Senator Akaka, distinguished members of the committee. I think the last time, Mr. Chairman, we were at a hearing we held on Molokai some years ago with Senator Inouye. It is always good to know that now of your capacity as chairman of this important committee. I certainly want to express my deepest appreciation for your initiative and leadership in calling this hearing this morning. The Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Faleomavaega. Mr. Chairman, as an original cosponsor of H.R. 309, the companion bill to S. 147, I want to state my absolute support of S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act of 2005, expressing the policy of the United States regarding the United States' relationship with Native Hawaiians and providing a process for the recognition by the United States of the Native Hawaiian governing entity. I would be remiss if I do not express my appreciation to the Senior Senator from Hawaii, Senator Inouye, and of course Senator Akaka, Congressman Abercrombie, and Congressman Case, members of the Hawaii congressional delegation. I am very happy also to see the Governor, Linda Lingle, here with us, and my good sister Haunani Apoliona as chairman of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs. Mr. Chairman, this bill goes to the very heart of our responsibility to protect the indigenous people who inhabit what is now the United States. As relative newcomers to this land where we have established this great Nation, we accepted responsibility for the care and protection of those who lived here before we arrived in the new world. The seriousness of this responsibility is borne out in the countless laws that Congress has enacted over the years for the benefit of Native Americans and the volumes of works addressing Indian law, the Supreme Court cases addressing native issues, and even now at the recent opening here in our Nation's Capital of the National Museum of the American Indian. Some have expressed concern that we should not legislate for Native Hawaiians because they are not American Indians. In my readings, Mr. Chairman, of the U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall, pretty well defined the term ``Indian'' to include all of the original inhabitants or natives who occupied America when it was allegedly discovered by the great nations of Europe. Just as Marshall further defined ``tribe'' to mean a people distinct from others, a distinct community. As an example, Alaska Natives are proof of the broad definition allowing indigenous groups to be recognized, even those who are culturally and genealogically distinct from the narrow conception of American Indian or tribe. I submit, Mr. Chairman, I honestly believe the Native Hawaiians also meet this definition. They are indigenous, aboriginal people living within what are now the borders of the United States. Native Hawaiians are estimated to have arrived on the Hawaiian Islands as early as 300 A.D., long before the new world was allegedly, again Mr. Chairman, discovered by Christopher Columbus. As you are well aware, Mr. Chairman, Native Hawaiians are also collectively categorized by anthropologists and scientists as Polynesians. I might also note, Mr. Chairman, that the famous British explorer Captain James Cook did not discover many of the Pacific Islands settled by Polynesians, primarily because he was accompanied by a Polynesian Tahitian chief and navigator by the name of Tupai'a, and told Captain Cook the locations of these islands thousands of miles apart. What was surprising to Captain Cook was the similarities of the culture and the people, the language very closely related, whether they be the Maoris in New Zealand or the Tongans or the Samoans or the Tahitians. Hawaiians were the same people. Cook later described it as the largest nation on earth, from Hawaii to New Zealand and as far east as Rapanui or Easter Island. Time will not permit me to discuss the origins of the Polynesian people, Mr. Chairman, but suffice it to say, Mr. Chairman, that the blood that flows in the veins of that good gentleman, Senator Akaka, is the same blood that flows in my veins. History has not been kind to my Native Hawaiian cousins for the past 110 years or so. But years before that, for almost 2,000 years, there were constant rivalries and wars among the ruling chiefs of these islands. It was not until the 1750's, as it was prophesied, that a great warrior chief that would be known as the killer of chiefs, and that a fleet of 900 war canoes of some 20,000 warriors, was able to conquer the other chiefs and united the islands under one rule. This famous chief, of course, was Kamehameha. Kamehameha ruled the Hawaiian Kingdom for almost 20 years, and started a ruling dynasty that almost lasted 100 years. To this day, no other name is revered more by the Native Hawaiians than their King Kamehameha. Mr. Chairman, when most people think of Hawaii, they think of honeymoons, grass huts, and tropical paradise, and think that natives still live in grass huts. Few are aware of the proud and painful history of some 300,000 Native Hawaiian people. Too few are aware of Hawaii as an independent sovereign country, a country that was illegally overthrown in 1893 by a U.S. minister to Hawaii using U.S. Marines to support the agenda of a small group of U.S. businessmen. Mr. Chairman, I know the time is running. I just want to state also, some of my colleagues have suggested at this time to move on because Native Hawaiians have been absorbed into the larger U.S. culture and no longer need special consideration. The evidence suggests the contrary, Mr. Chairman. One look at the demographic profile of the Native Hawaiian community will reveal that Native Hawaiians are still suffering today from the loss of their lands and the damage to their traditional ways of life. The Native Hawaiian population is clearly suffering from poor health, poor living conditions, poor education, poor social conditions at a far higher rate than in the general population. Native Hawaiians lag far behind the general population of Hawaii in virtually every category of well-being, and are disproportionately represented in nearly every negative category. Mr. Chairman, one point I would like to emphasize is that the passage of this bill will involve no significant costs to the Federal Government. In fact, there is a specific provision in the proposed bill that excludes any funding that will go directly to the Bureau of Indian Affairs does not go into any consideration to be given for the needs of Native Hawaiians. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the outlays to open the Office of Hawaiian Relations within the Department of the Interior would cost only about $500,000. We have an opportunity here, Mr. Chairman, to right a longstanding injustice that has been perpetuated on the Native Hawaiian people. We have a duty to protect this group of indigenous people who have suffered terribly as a result of their relationship with the United States. The solution offered in this bill is comprehensive and addresses the needs of the Native Hawaiian community. This bill will restore a measure of well-deserved autonomy to the Native Hawaiian people and provide a foundation for the reconciliation process. Mr. Chairman, I spent many years in Hawaii, and my affection for the Hawaiian people is well known. Despite all adversity, the Native Hawaiian culture remains rich and alive. The spirit of Aloha that emanates from these people is what makes the State of Hawaii very unique. The Native Hawaiian people have waited patiently for the day when we here in Congress would consider their case and do the right thing. I submit that today is that day. The right thing is for us to pass the Native Hawaiian Reorganization Act of 2005 and to ensure the protection and the perpetuation of these magnificent people. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Chairman. Thank you very much. I thank our colleagues for coming over and joining us today. Are there any questions? Senator Dorgan. Mr. Chairman, I do not have any questions. I thought both of you did an excellent job in laying out your positions and being supportive of the legislation. Thank you very much. The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I want to say thank you to our delegation. As was reported here, Senator Inouye is not able to be here. And also, Congressman Abercrombie is not able to be here because of the weather. I wanted you to know that the delegation fully supports this bill. I want to thank our chairman for all he has done this far. I want to thank our Ranking Member, Byron Dorgan, for his support as well. Thank you very much. The Chairman. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming. Our next witness is Linda Lingle, who is the Governor of the State of Hawaii. Welcome, Governor, thank you for being with us this morning. Welcome Governor, please proceed. STATEMENT OF HON. LINDA LINGLE, GOVERNOR, FROM HAWAII, ACCOMPANIED BY MARK BENNETT, ATTORNEY GENERAL Ms. Lingle. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, Vice Chairman Dorgan, and Senator Akaka. I am here today on behalf of the people of the State of Hawaii. I want to tell you that we are grateful and humbled that in the press of business that is facing this committee and this U.S. Senate, that you would set time aside to hear a bill that is critically important to the people in our State. Mr. Chairman, because I know you are a person who likes to get to the heart of things quickly, let me say what I believe this bill is about at its essence. This bill is simply about equality and equal treatment under the law. There are three groups of indigenous people in America. Two of the groups have been recognized by the American Government, and one has not. The failure to pass this bill would continue the discrimination that exists against the Native Hawaiian peoples not being included in the recognition that the other two Native groups have. I think the bill does four things that are important to the Native Hawaiian people and to the State of Hawaii. First of all, the bill would promote self-sufficiency for Native Hawaiian people, and bring about greater economic opportunity for them. Native Hawaiians continue to rely too heavily on State and Federal programs and by having a Native Hawaiian governing entity, it would allow them to move forward with independence. It would also provide greater accountability to this U.S. Senate and to the State of Hawaii for the Government programs that do exist for Native Hawaiians. It would promote this accountability because you would have all Government programs that benefit Native Hawaiians now coming under one entity, instead of being dispersed the way they are now. There have been over 150 pieces of legislation of benefit to Native Hawaiians. I believe there should be and needs to be greater accountability for these programs and more effective use of the programs. I believe the creation of this entity would help to bring about that accountability and efficiency. I also believe that S. 147 is our best opportunity to preserve the Native Hawaiian culture, which is the foundation of our being in Hawaii. It is the essence of who we are as a people and a State. It is also an economic imperative to our State because our State's largest industry, the tourist industry, is really dependent on the preservation of the Native Hawaiian culture. Finally, S. 147 would protect the existing programs against the legal attacks that have become constant against programs that benefit Native Hawaiians. I want to focus on one of them in particular that has been under attack and remains under attack in the court system. That is a program that was set up by this U.S. Senate in 1920. In 1920, this U.S. Senate set aside 200,000 acres of land to benefit Native Hawaiians. It was the right of the Senate to do that and it was the right thing for the Senate to do. But today, that program is being challenged in court and S. 147 would allow us to protect the Hawaiian Homes Program as well as the other programs that benefit Native Hawaiians. I do want to mention that it has been a long road on this bill, as has been outlined by Senator Akaka and others, but I believe the time has been well spent because I believe the bill today is something that a legal challenge can meet and any social concern can meet any objection that may have arisen in the past. I want to make reference to one part of the bill that is different than the part I have testified on in the past. That was the inclusion of a provision that says that the State legislature, the State of Hawaii, the U.S. Congress, and the new governing entity would have to come together if there were going to be changes in civil or criminal jurisdiction, land use, taxation, zoning, or other issues that would affect the entity. So for those who were fearful that this would bring about some of the same issues that have arisen with the American Indians, I believe the change in the legislation has finally and completely addressed that issue. Mr. Chairman, I see this bill as a unifying force for my State. Every elected official in the State of Hawaii supports this bill, both Republican and Democrat. The majority of people of every ethnic group support this bill. The business community supports this bill, including the State's two major banks. I believe it is because they see this as a positive force for the future strength of our economy and our social fabric. Again, I want to thank you for scheduling this hearing, for keeping an open mind on a subject that is very important to us. I really want to thank the committee members for sitting today, listening to the testimony, and for giving us the courtesy of hearing a bill that may not be important at the national level, but is to the people in our State. Thank you very much, Senator. [Statement of Governor Lingle appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you very much, Governor Lingle. And thank you for your steadfast leadership and commitment to Native Hawaiians. We are very pleased that you could appear here today. Picking up on a couple of your comments that you just made, under this proposal, if Native Hawaiians wanted to establish a gaming operation, that would require the agreement of the State legislature and Congress, as well as the Native Hawaiians themselves? Ms. Lingle. I would ask the lawyers in the room. My attorney general is here and can answer that question. I will ask him to do that. I will state for you clearly from a policy point of view, Senator, our entire congressional delegation opposes any legalized gambling in our State. We are one of two States with no form of legalized gambling. I oppose it. I will let the legal question be answered. The Chairman. Thank you. My point is that there are a lot of States where the legislatures have opposed gaming operations, and they have been set up. But go ahead. Ms. Lingle. This is Attorney General Mark Bennett. The Chairman. Go ahead, sir. Mr. Bennett. Senator, the bill itself says that there ought to be and shall be no gambling pursuant to this bill. In addition, it would certainly require at the very least an act of Congress to allow gambling if this occurred. But we believe that the bill by itself provides no gambling, but there would be no possibility of that without a further act of the Congress. The Chairman. Thank you very much. Governor, after getting into this issue a little more, it seems to me that your sense of urgency is dictated by some of the constitutional challenges that have been brought against programs that are administered by the State of Hawaii. What other programs would be in danger here if S. 147 were not enacted? Ms. Lingle. The most critical program right now is one that is pending in the Ninth Circuit. It involves the Department of Hawaiian Homelands. There are 200,000 acres of land that are home to 7,000 families, 28,000 people on those lands. If there was a successful legal challenge in my State, it would create social disruption because people would no longer have the right to those lands. So that is, from my perspective, right now the most pressing issue. If we are able to get S. 147 adopted, we will use this as a clear basis for our argument that this is not a racial preference, but these lands were set aside because there is a trust, a political relationship between the Native Hawaiian people and the American Government. The Chairman. Has there already been court decisions which have impacted the status of Native Hawaiians? Mr. Bennett. There was a lawsuit challenging Native Hawaiian programs that was dismissed, I would say, on technical grounds in the District Court, but that is up on appeal right now in the Ninth Circuit. While we believe that we can defend these lawsuits on the current state of affairs, if this bill were to pass, we believe that this would provide a clear mandate once and for all for the dismissal of these lawsuits. We certainly are greatly concerned that without this bill at some point, these lawsuits, either the current one or a future one, may succeed in invalidating all programs that benefit Native Hawaiians. The Chairman. Governor Lingle, do you have an opinion on how well, since the time of statehood, the State of Hawaii has managed the ceded land trust for the benefit of Native Hawaiians? Ms. Lingle. I think recently we are doing an outstanding job. The Chairman. Since you were inaugurated? [Laughter.] Ms. Lingle. I think, sir, with 85 years passing since the Hawaiian Homes Trust was set up, we could have done a much better job. We have an accelerated program that we have put forward to put thousands of additional families onto this land. We think, again, it has been, as many other things that relate to Native Hawaiians and many other programs, it has simply been too long in coming. It is the right thing to do to move forward in a much faster pace. So I think we are on the right track now, and this will help to keep us there. The Chairman. I thank you. Given the obvious urgency of this legislation, I think you deserve a rapid decision by the Congress of the United States on this issue. I would intend to hold a vote very soon in the committee so that we can move this legislation forward. Senator Dorgan. Senator Dorgan. Governor, thank you for your testimony. We had asked the Administration to be present to testify today and they chose not to. Have you had any conversations with anyone in the Administration about whether they are intending to support or will support this legislation? Ms. Lingle. I have had many conversations with people in the Administration who are all very focused on this issue. They are briefed on it, and they are very anxious for the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House to take action on S. 147. Senator Dorgan. Being focused and briefed is admirable, if that is what they are, but I am asking whether they will be supportive or be opposing the legislation. Again, we had asked for representatives of the Administration to testify. I am not sure why they elected not to at the moment, but do you have any sense of whether their weighing on this will be in support of the legislation or in opposition? Ms. Lingle. Senator, I am optimistic that if the Senate passes this and the House passes it, that they would be supportive. I am optimistic of that. Senator Dorgan. All right. Well, often what we do is attempt to ask the Administration their position before we take action. It is not dispositive in terms of what we do, but I would hope as well if we go through this process not hearing from them, that at the end of the day if we have passed this legislation, they would be supportive. But I would also encourage you and others to continue to see if we could enlist their participation and evaluation concurrent with the consideration by Congress so that we could get their views on it. I think that would be helpful. Ms. Lingle. Senator, you have my word that I will continue to encourage them to be supportive of S. 147. I might say, I wish my legislature at home was concerned about what I thought about measures they were moving forward. This is something new to me. [Laughter.] I really am optimistic that if this can get through, that they will be supportive. Senator Dorgan. It is not new here to ask the Administration to share their views with this committee. That is a rather time-honored tradition. Let me again thank you for your testimony. You produced very strong testimony, as I expected. My colleagues, Senator Inouye and Senator Akaka, both assured us that you would be providing some very compelling testimony. I think your presence here today is very, very helpful to this committee. Your delegation, from the Governor and the State legislature, and virtually all of the official representatives of Hawaii speak with one voice on these issues. We appreciate very much your leadership, Governor. Ms. Lingle. Thank you, Senator. The Chairman. Senator Akaka. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I want to take the time to thank the people from Hawaii who are here and who have such a deep interest in this bill and the passage of this bill. I want to thank all of you for being here. There are some organizations here as well. I want to particularly thank the Governor for your efforts on this bill, and in particular to thank Mark Bennett, the attorney general, as well as Micah Kane, for their work on this bill. I really appreciate their work. They work with my staff and our staffs as well on this bill. This has happened because I believe this is so critical for the people of Hawaii. When my colleagues ask me about the importance of this bill, I explain my views to them as a Native Hawaiian. I am hoping that you, Governor, as a non-Native Hawaiian, who supports the bill as much as I do, can provide some insight as to why non-Native Hawaiian residents in Hawaii support this bill. Ms. Lingle. Senator, I think again at its essence it is because it is the right thing to do and because the people in our State are probably a lot like me. Many of us came from other places. Maybe we came from the mainland United States or we came from the Philippines or we came from China or Vietnam or other places. We were taken in, literally taken in as a part of the family, the 'ohana, by the Hawaiian people. For us, this is a privilege to come here to talk about this issue with people who maybe do not understand how accepted we have been. For someone like myself to come into the State, and as you know I lived on a very small island for many years, that is, as a percentage of its population, besides Niihau which people cannot just go to, it is the most Native Hawaiian Island. It was my introduction to the people and the State of Hawaii. It has made me who I am today. I think everyone who is non- Hawaiian in our State would say that they are the person they are because of the culture of our State. It is so different, so unique, and that culture is based on the culture of the Native Hawaiian people. It is just such a privilege to be here to be able to share how important this is to our State. It is not just important to Native Hawaiians. It is important to who we are as a people, as a society. As I said, this is a unifying force for us, to finally be able to express gratitude this way to the Native Hawaiian people for what they have given to us, and I believe, what they have given to the country and to the world. Senator Akaka. I thank you very much for your support of this bill, Governor. Ms. Lingle. Thank you, Senator. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. The Chairman. Thank you very much. Thank you, Governor. Thank you for coming this long way. I am sorry that we have not scheduled a hearing on this important issue in Hawaii, but maybe we can consider that. Ms. Lingle. We look forward to hosting you, Senator. The Chairman. Thank you very much, Governor. I thank the attorney general also for being here. Thank you, sir. Our next panel is, maybe Senator Akaka can pronounce. Senator Akaka. Yes; Haunani Apoliona. The Chairman. She is the chairperson of the Board of Trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs; Tex Hall, president, National Congress of American Indians; and Jade Danner, director, Government Affairs and Community Consultation, Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement. Ms. Apoliona, would you correct my pronunciation again, please? Ms. Apoliona. It is Apoliona. The Chairman. Apoliona. Thank you very much. I apologize for the mispronunciation. Thank you very much. We will begin with you. Thank you for coming. STATEMENT OF HAUNANI APOLIONA, CHAIRPERSON, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS, ACCOMPANIED BY MICAH KANE, CHAIRMAN, HAWAIIAN HOMES COMMISSION Ms. Apoliona. [Greeting and song in native tongue.] The Chairman. I am sure you are going to explain to me what that was all about. [Laughter.] Ms. Apoliona. Thank you, Senator. The translations lay before you. In our manner of welcoming and greeting, we would like to share a lei with you as I begin my testimony. The Chairman. We are going to have to have you here more often. [Laughter.] Please proceed. Ms. Apoliona. [Statement in native tongue.] To the leaders and members of this Committee on Indian Affairs of the U.S. Congress, greetings, my name is Haunani Apoliona. I am chairperson of the Board of Trustees for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, a body corporate created by the Hawaii State constitution and statute. I would like to take 1 moment, Mr. Chairman and members, to introduce other trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs who have traveled this long way. As I introduce them, I would ask them to rise: Trustee Rowena Akana, Trustee Dante Carpenter, Trustee Boyd Mossman, Trustee Oswald Stender, and Trustee John Waihe'e, IV. The Chairman. You are welcome here today. Thank you. Ms. Apoliona. I would also, Mr. Chairman, like to introduce sitting to my left, Antoinette Lee, president of the Association of Hawaiian Civic Clubs, 51 clubs located throughout Hawaii and this Nation, the oldest community-based grassroots, non-government Native Hawaiian organization founded in 1918 by Delegate to Congress Jonah Kuhio Kalanianaole. Ms. Lee hopes to provide a few comments following my testimony, and she has provided her full text to the committee. The Chairman. Welcome. Ms. Apoliona. The mission of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs is to protect and assist Native Hawaiian people and to protect our environmental and other resources, and by doing so to perpetuate our threatened traditional culture. Perhaps most importantly, OHA has worked to bring meaningful self-government to the Native Hawaiian people who are the only indigenous group in the United States to whom Congress has not fully afforded that fundamental right. I testify today in support of enactment of S. 147. There are three indigenous populations within the United States: American Indians in the lower 48 States; Eskimos, Aleuts, and other Native groups in Alaska; and Native Hawaiians. The governing entities of American Indians and Alaska Native have both been recognized by Congress. This recognition extends to indigenous people the ability to govern their own internal affairs in a manner appropriate to their cultures and traditions. Congress acted in 1934 by passing the Indian Reorganization Act, and in 1971 by passing the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act. In this legislation, S. 147, as Hawaiians, we seek only what long has been granted this Nation's other indigenous peoples. In my 20-page written testimony, which with your permission I ask be included in full in the record of this proceeding. The Chairman. Without objection. Ms. Apoliona. I have provided detailed information about the history of the Kingdom of Hawaii, about the United States' role in the forcible overthrow of our Native government; about our need for a reorganized governmental entity to allow us a measure of self-government, and about the need for Federal legislation authorizing our reorganization. Since distinguished members of our congressional delegation and of course our distinguished Governor already have spoken to these points, I wish to use my time this morning to address questions that have been raised to us over the last several weeks. Let me first address the impact of S. 147 on the Bureau of Indian Affairs' budget. Regarding the impact of the enactment of S. 147 would have on the Bureau of Indian Affairs' budget, I note that we, as Native Hawaiians, have not asked for, and S. 147 does not provide, the Native Hawaiian governing entity with access to the Federal funding set-aside for American Indian tribes. In fact, S. 147 is specifically structured to prevent that from occurring. We think section 7 and 9 of the bill make clear that enactment of S. 147 will not have an impact on the Bureau's budget or on money generally appropriated for Indian tribes. We reiterate and we stand by our commitment not to adversely impact our American Indian 'ohana with this legislation. Now, let me address the Federal appropriations currently provided to Native Hawaiians. Native Hawaiians already receive Federal funding of our own through various non-BIA programs for such matters as Native Hawaiian health, education, housing, economic development, historic preservation, culture and elder and vocational services. Federal recognition will not make Native Hawaiians eligible for the Federal programs and services established for our Indian and Alaska Native 'ohana. Through Federal recognition, we are not members of tribes of the lower 48 States, nor members of corporations, tribes, or villages of Alaska. We are Native Hawaiians. For further clarity on the matter of Federal appropriations, the Congressional Budget Office, which studied an earlier nearly identical version of S. 147 in the 108th Congress, estimated that, quote, ``implementing H.R. 4282 would cost nearly $1 million annually in fiscal years 2005-07.'' The Chairman. Ma'am, you are going to have to summarize some of your testimony. We have three additional witnesses and then questions from the members of the panel. I appreciate it, but you are going to have to summarize your testimony. We usually give 5 minutes. We will give you a lot longer. Ms. Apoliona. S. 147 does not allow gaming. It does not provide for that in the language of the bill. And as was stated earlier, the State of Hawaii is one of two States, the other being Utah, that does not allow gaming or gambling. It is time to restore the Native Hawaiian self-governing status, and we ask that this committee expeditiously move this legislation to the floor of the Senate. Native Hawaiians are hopeful that this Congress will enact S. 147, and thereby take another step toward reconciliation. I appear before you as the elected trustee of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, as one of nine duly elected by all citizens of Hawaii to represent the interests of the Hawaiian people. I am Native Hawaiian, and I thank you for your time. [Prepared statement of Ms. Apoliona appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you very much. Tex Hall, welcome back before the committee. STATEMENT OF TEX HALL, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL CONGRESS OF AMERICAN INDIANS, ACCOMPANIED BY JULIE KITKA, PRESIDENT, ALASKA FEDERATION OF NATIVES Mr. Hall. [Greeting in native tongue.] Aloha, and good morning to Chairman McCain, Vice Chairman Dorgan, Senator Akaka, my good friend Senator Inouye, and other members of the committee. I am Tex Hall, president of the National Congress of American Indians. I am joined by Julie Kitka, the president of the Alaska Federation of Natives. The Chairman. Welcome. Mr. Hall. As the committee is aware, NCAI is the largest coalition of tribal governments in the United States, defending tribal government treaty rights and the Federal trust responsibility since 1944. So on behalf of NCAI and the Alaska Federation of Natives, we join in strong support of S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act. NCAI first offered testimony in support of Native Hawaiian sovereignty and self-determination in 2000, a position that has not been changed in our recent resolutions, as attached, and we would like to include those for the record, Mr. Chairman. The Chairman. Thank you. [Referenced documents appear in appendix.] Mr. Hall. Native Hawaiians are no different than any of our other Nation's indigenous groups. Native Hawaiians lived on the land and governed their own affairs for thousands of years before European contact. For many years, the United States and nations all over the world recognized the Government of Native Hawaiians as a sovereign political entity and signed treaties with them. Since the illegitimate overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom, Native Hawaiians have suffered more than a century of injustice, including the neglect and abuse of their entitlements and the violation of their basic civil rights. So on behalf of NCAI's member tribes, I am here today to announce that NCAI believes that the Federal Government must correct this injustice and formally recognize the inherent right of Native Hawaiians to self-governance. Passage of this bill is also timely because since the U.S. Supreme Court decided the Rice case in 2000, there has been a flood of non-natives who run for office positions in the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and there are similar lawsuits challenging education, housing, land and other programs intended to benefit Native Hawaiians. So before I conclude my testimony, if also I could briefly address one specific issue concerning the bill. When the bill was first introduced in 2000, many people questioned the possible effect that Federal recognition of Native Hawaiian Government could have on funding for Indian programs. NCAI points out that Senator Inouye has promised that Native Hawaiian programs will never be funded at the expense of Indian programs, and that has always been the case. Section 9 of this bill provides that any appropriations for Native Hawaiians are to be funded independently of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. NCAI would request that the committee add clarifying language to include not just BIA appropriations, but also Indian Health Service and other appropriations for services provided to Indians by the United States. On a personal note, I had a chance and honor to make several visits to many of my friends in the room here today, and have developed a strong friendship and relationship with the Native Hawaiian people. In North Dakota, if you wear a cowboy hat and you are not a real cowboy, they say that you are all hat and no cattle. [Laughter.] I have actually met real Native Hawaiians and real Native Hawaiian cowboys. So I am going to be asked to participate in a real Native Hawaiian rodeo coming up real soon, and I look forward to not losing so much over there, because I will probably be called ``all hat and no cattle'' if I lose. [Laughter.] So Mr. Chairman, that concludes my testimony, and again, we are in strong support of the passage of S. 147. [Prepared statement of Mr. Hall appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you very much, Tex. I appreciate your appearance again before this committee. Ms. Danner, welcome. STATEMENT OF JADE DANNER, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND COMMUNITY CONSULTATION, COUNCIL FOR NATIVE HAWAIIAN ADVANCEMENT Ms. Danner. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Aloha, Honorable Chairman McCain, Vice Chairman Dorgan, and esteemed members of the committee on Indian Affairs. My name is Jade Danner. I am the director of Government Affairs and Community Consultation for the Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement. It is an honor to testify before you here today on this important legislation for our communities. I apologize for my voice trembling, but this is such an important issue for our community. With me today is Tony Sang, who is the chairman of the State Council of Hawaiian Homestead Associations. We are very lucky to have him as a member of our board of directors. The Chairman. Welcome, sir. Ms. Danner. Mr. Sang's organization represents 24 homestead communities and over 30,000 Native Hawaiian people living on Hawaiian Home Lands, communities that were created by the passage of the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act in 1920. These communities have played a significant role in bringing our people back from the very brink of extinction. SCHHA has asked me to speak on their behalf today. I was born on the Navajo and Hopi Reservations in the community of Tuba City, AZ, from your neck of the woods, Senator. I have lived 25 years among the Inupiat Eskimos in Barrow, AK. I am Native Hawaiian and I now live in Hawaiian Home Lands in Waimanalo on Oahu. I have witnessed first-hand the power of the transformation that can occur in Native communities on the basis of Federal recognition of a self- governing entity and self-determination. The Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement is a member- based non-profit organization aimed at improving access to information and resources by the Native Hawaiian community and the organizations that serve it. We organize the largest annual conference dedicated to Native Hawaiian community development. The Governor has made some strong comments. One of the things that she commented on was the vital need for our culture in the State's economy. CNHA has looked at the economic impact of just our programs and what they bring to the State of Hawaii. While $59 million goes toward direct benefits to Native Hawaiians, it generates $147 million in economic production for all of Hawaii's people. So when we build a house on Hawaiian Home Lands for Native Hawaiians to live in, those houses are contributing jobs to non-Natives and Natives alike, and that is an important thing, I think, to note. From our consultation with the Native Hawaiian community, there is clear consensus about overwhelming support for the passage of this bill, and for recognizing a Native Hawaiian Government as the vehicle to enhance self-determination for Native Hawaiians. Several public laws already authorize programming to address Native Hawaiian conditions. Private beneficial trusts also contribute to our well-being. We have resources, Senators. But as the American Indian and Alaska Native experience has demonstrated, resources are not enough. They are not enough alone. It is vital for our survival as a distinct thread in the human fabric that we have autonomy in our internal affairs, that we are empowered in meaningful ways to make our own solutions and utilize our resources in a way that we see fit. The Apology Resolution provides for an accurate account of Hawaii's history and its entry into the Union and commits the United States to commencing the much-needed process of reconciliation. It is a history that I will not belabor here. But suffice it to say that our experience and circumstance is no different than many other Native American peoples. As a result, our current conditions are much the same. Despite these adversities, our hope and our faith in the American system remains. Like other Native Americans, we continue to honor and fulfill our responsibilities as American citizens. Many of our sons and daughters have committed their whole lives to military service, some rising to the highest ranks. I am proud to say that 10 members of the Hawaii State Legislature, a significant portion of Governor Lingle's administration, including the Lieutenant Governor, and of course Senator Akaka, are all Native Hawaiian. We understand as Hawaiians that in addition to these individual responsibilities as Americans, we have a collective responsibility to perpetuate Native Hawaiian culture, language, knowledge and traditions. It is this obligation that we need this committee and this body's help to fulfill. We need self-governance to formulate and implement our own solutions and to hold ourselves accountable to those results. We need it because we do not exist anywhere else. If we are denied self-determination and self-governance in Hawaii, in our motherland, we are sure to go the way of so many other Natives indigenous to these shores and now extinct. We will be a memory, and that will be the saddest story in this great Nation's history. We will be lost to the world. We do not seek recognition of our Native government in order to do gaming, Senators, and we are not interested in eating out of the Indian pot. We seek passage of this bill for a more basic reason. We need to be at the helm of our own future. We want the United States to honor its trust relationship to us, and we want to engage fully in the policy of self-determination and self-governance. We want to honor our obligation to our ancestors, whose sole existence was to bring us forward, just as we exist to bring future generations of Hawaiians forward. Humbly, we ask the members of Congress to pass this legislation because it empowers us to hold our own destiny in our own hands. We ask that you deal with us in a manner that is fair and just. Mahalo for this opportunity to address the committee on this important legislation. The Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement looks forward to working with the committee on passage of this bill and on future efforts towards reconciliation with the Native Hawaiian people. Thank you. [Prepared statement of Ms. Danner appears in appendix.] The Chairman. Thank you very much, Ms. Danner. What are your views on how well the State of Hawaii has carried out its responsibilities of administering the ceded lands for the benefits of Native Hawaiians? Ms. Danner. I would agree with the Governor's assertion that in recent years, maybe the last 10 to 15 years, there has been a much better effort toward managing those resources. But in truth, that is one of the fundamental reasons I believe that we need to control those assets, because we need to be able to hold ourselves accountable from within our community, and not knocking on the door of the State government who is our guardian. They have done a tremendous job in recent years. The Chairman. Thank you. President Hall, does the majority of Indian country support this legislation? Mr. Hall. Yes; they do, Mr. Chairman. It was discussed at length in our recent resolution which is attached to my testimony, but it was unanimously passed at the NCAI annual convention, Mr. Chairman, in support. The Chairman. Thank you. Chairwoman Apoliona, how much money does the Office of Hawaiian Affairs currently receive from the State of Hawaii for the benefit of Native Hawaiians? Ms. Apoliona. From our legislature, we receive approximately $2 million a year. The Chairman. $2 million a year. Ms. Apoliona. And from the revenues of ceded lands, we receive approximately $9 million a year. The Chairman. Does the airport in Honolulu sit on---- Ms. Apoliona. Yes; it does, Senator. The Chairman. And do you get any revenue from that? Ms. Apoliona. At the current time, the Native Hawaiian Trust of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs does not receive revenues from those ceded lands of the airport, although the obligation still remains. The Chairman. Why do you think that is? Ms. Apoliona. A couple of years ago, there was legislation passed here in the U.S. Congress that reinforced the Department of Transportation's request that revenues not be paid from the airport trust revenues that are derived from the airports in Hawaii. However, the obligation still remains for the payment of a 20-percent pro-rata share to the Native Hawaiian Trust from those lands, from use of those lands. The Chairman. But that is not the case? Ms. Apoliona. The congressional act prohibits the State of Hawaii from paying the pro-rata share from the airport trust funds. The Chairman. How many people currently qualify as homesteaders under the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act? Ms. Apoliona. I would like to turn to Mr. Micah Kane. Mr. Kane. Chairman McCain, my name is Micah Kane. I am the chairman of the Hawaiian Homes Commission. I manage the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands which has the trust responsibility of all of the lands and residences and people who are on our waiting list. Currently right now, as Mrs. Danner articulated, we have 7,400 residential and agricultural lessees that we serve. We also currently have about 18,000 individuals who are qualified Native Hawaiians who would have the opportunity, should our trust present them for home ownership or land stewardship. The Chairman. How many people would be eligible as, quote, ``Native Hawaiians'' as the bill defines this term, to participate in the vote to create the new Native Hawaiian entity? Ms. Apoliona. There are approximately 400,000 Native Hawaiians throughout this country. By choice, they will have to make a decision whether they will participate in the process for reorganizing the Native Hawaiian Government. It will be their decision. The Chairman. There are 400,000 people who will decide themselves whether they qualify as Native Hawaiians? Ms. Apoliona. Part of self-determination, Senator, provides for, as we understand it, the ability for a community to define its membership, and that we would be afforded similarly that decision making process as Native Hawaiians. As we have said earlier, the impact of passage of this bill in our minds is very minimal, as my testimony has said. The financial impact to the Federal budget is very minimal, according to the report of the Congressional Budget Office. The Chairman. If you will pardon me, I was just asking how many people would be eligible as Native Hawaiians, and the answer, I guess, is 400,000? Ms. Apoliona. Approximately, should they choose to participate in reorganizing the Government. The Chairman. Thank you very much. Senator Dorgan. Senator Dorgan. Mr. Chairman, first of all, thank you again all of you for your testimony. Chairman Hall, thank you for appearing frequently before this committee and providing useful testimony as we consider these issues. Your support of this legislation is important, and your response to the Chairman's question I think gives us the indication of the strength of support across the country among Indian tribes. Chairman Apoliona, I want to ask the question, if there is no financial impact here on the Federal budget, and my understanding is this is not something that scores with a substantial problem for us, if that is the case, then the issues that we deal with on reservations here in this country with Native Americans or the issues that I know you are concerned about with Native Hawaiians, of unemployment and poverty and extraordinarily high mortality rates from heart disease and diabetes and so on, how will passage of this legislation, if it has no financial impact, how will it affect and address some of those issues, do you think? Ms. Apoliona. I think, as has been mentioned by previous speakers, the ability to begin to reconcile our historic wrongs, and through the self-governance process allow for Native Hawaiians as a people to oversee and direct their future and administration of their assets, both land and resources that will be brought to bear and under the administration of a Native Hawaiian governing entity. The 400,000 Native Hawaiians that I refer to, Senators, across this Nation, Native Hawaiians, is approximately 400,000 of all ages. There are much less adult Hawaiians as part of these statistics. But it will give an opportunity to guide the future in a self-determined way via a Native Hawaiian government that will be structured by Native Hawaiians. Senator Dorgan. So you are saying in a sense that the self- governance that is available under this would provide the ability to better manage the resources? Ms. Apoliona. Better manage the resources, implement programs that will address the needs of our people collectively, less dependence on government funding, and really provide us a strength for Native Hawaiian communities to participate in our national and local economy. Senator Dorgan. Mr. Chairman, I think that the record here that has been submitted by our witnesses provides a pretty substantial amount of information for the committee. I hope that we can perhaps as we go along and consider this legislation, call on them perhaps by submitting additional questions for additional information. I want to thank all of you for participating this morning in this important hearing. The Chairman. Thank you very much, Senator Dorgan. Senator Akaka. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I also want to add that when we talk about support, that our State legislature, since the year 2000, has on two occasions passed resolutions supporting this bill. My first question is to Jade of CNHA. Jade, CNHA has done workshops on the positive economic impact of Native Hawaiian programs on Hawaii's economy. Can you share some of the data with this committee on those programs? Ms. Danner. Yes, Senator; I wanted to clarify for Chairman McCain, first, that the people who are eligible for homesteads, the reason that the number is different and that it does not have a budgetary impact is that all legislation save the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act is already using the definition of Native Hawaiian that is in the bill. So the funds that are appropriated now relate to that. But according to the economic impact, and this is linked, because the $59 million that I talked about is for programs. It is Federal funding that comes for programs for Native Hawaiian people with the definition of the bill. That, in turn, generates the $147 million in economic productivity. So this is a significant resource for our State's economy. It is, in looking at diversity of funding and trying to build an economy that is more diversified, it is certainly one of the significant sources of diversification for our community in terms of the homes and the construction and the private sector businesses that providing these services creates. Senator Akaka. I want you to please convey my aloha to your sister Robin. I should tell you that the first time, Mr. Chairman, I visited Point Barrow in Alaska, I met many people, and I met these two girls and made the comment, you two girls look like you are from Hawaii. [Laughter.] And to my surprise they said yes. They were from Hawaii. They were Jade and her sister Robin, who eventually moved back to Hawaii and have been working in our interests. Jade, I thank CNHA, particularly you and your sister, and also Tony Sang, for being here today and supporting us, and for all of the outreach that CNHA has done to the people of Hawaii to help them understand this legislation. Can you share with my colleagues what CNHA has done to help educate the people of Hawaii about this bill? Ms. Danner. Absolutely, Senator. The Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement, we provide information and resources, and so one of the things we do is conduct workshops in the communities on specific issues that relate to Native Hawaiian concerns. We have held over 50 community-based workshops in Hawaii and across the continental United States to Native Hawaiian communities, also attended by members of the Hawaii business community and the community at large, on what the Akaka bill does. We also try to put it in a context, because for Native Hawaiians to imagine what this means in the context of Federal law, we do not get to look down the road, 15 miles down the road, and see the next-door neighbor tribe and see how it plays out as a circumstance, because we are so far removed. So we have tried to bring information about Federal Indian law, about the history, and about how these authorities helped to bring basic services, housing, education, welfare, those kinds of real services to Native Hawaiians and to their own control, and how American Indians and Alaska Natives have used that to build their communities up. I saw a recent article that states that found that self- determination is working. It is the first working policy for American Indians and Alaska Natives, a Harvard study no less. And so we take those out to the community and we have reached over 5,000 Native Hawaiians. What we see is as Native Hawaiian knowledge about this world of Indian law and how self- governance works for American Indians, and we can make it more concrete for them, then support grows and understanding grows, and they start to have real ideas about how to implement this very needed thing. This is just an example of one of the materials that we distribute to each member. Each person who comes to our workshops gets a booklet this thick that contains the full text of the legislation, and some frequently asked questions and background information. So those are some of the kinds of efforts we have done. Senator Akaka. I know the Hawaiian community has supported the bill. I know that other organizations as well have done work in this area, in educating the Hawaiians. Tex Hall of NCAI, and also Julie Kitka, thank you so much for being here, and thank you for your unwavering support throughout the past 6 years. We would not have been able to have such a strong bill were it not for your willingness to share you, and I quote, share your ``lessons learned.'' Some of my colleagues have expressed concern that providing Federal recognition will be harmful to American Indians and Alaska Natives. I know you have made some comments on this already, but what is your additional response to that comment? Tex? Mr. Hall. Thank you for the question, Senator Akaka. I would disagree with that completely. Federal recognition and self-determination works. As Jade Danner had mentioned, the Harvard study clearly shows that it works. When indigenous peoples can govern and manage their own affairs, their health improves, the economy improves, the educational literacy improves, their Native culture remains intact, their Native language remains intact, better relations are developed within the community and the surrounding community within the State. Everyone really improves with the socioeconomic conditions. So Federal recognition, self-determination clearly is a great, I think it is a great victory for American Indian and Alaska Natives. So if that is afforded in S. 147, I am firmly confident that that will occur with the Native Hawaiians as well. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much. Julie. Ms. Kitka. Mr. Chairman, Senator Akaka, to respond to your question, my name is Julie Kitka. I am the president of the Alaska Federation of Natives. I agree with Chairman Tex Hall that self-determination is one of the most successful Federal policies that we have in recent experience. We believe that the recognition of the Native Hawaiians is just another building block in the whole notion of self-determination. I would also cast self-determination as part of strengthening democracy here at home. The United States has made a policy of strengthening democracy and freedom all around the world. I think it is very important to look at this recognition bill as a building block of self-determination and strengthening democracy here at home. Native Americans, American Indians, Alaska Natives and Native Hawaiians have the highest rate of participation in the military services since World War II in every branch of the service. I look at the Vietnam War, in particular Alaska Natives, we had the highest rate of volunteerism for that, not draft. I think it is really important to strengthen democracy at home, and I think the recognition of the Native Hawaiians is a component of strengthening democracy, as well as furthering self-determination. I would hope that once the Hawaiians are recognized, that the Congress would be ready to move on a whole other level of self-determination which would empower our people to contribute even more to this country. Thank you. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much for your responses. I also want to say aloha to the trustees of the OHA, who are here, and welcome and thank you for coming. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. The Chairman. Thank you very much. I thank the witnesses for coming such a long way. We appreciate your views. As I said, we will move this to a vote of the committee by sometime next week. This hearing is adjourned. Thank you. [Whereupon, at 11:25 a.m. the committee was adjourned, to reconvene at the call of the chair.] ======================================================================= A P P E N D I X ---------- Additional Material Submitted for the Record ======================================================================= Prepared Statement of Hon. Neil Abercrombie, U.S. Representative from Hawaii Thank you Chairman McCain and Vice Chairman Dorgan for allowing me to submit my testimony in support of S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act of 2005. I appreciate your willingness to hold this hearing and to hear from the people of the State of Hawaii. This bill would provide Native Hawaiians a process through which the Federal recognition. Rather than summarize the details of the legislation, I would like to focus on why this legislation is so urgently needed in Hawaii and why passage of S. 147 would be the fair and honorable thing to do. The State of Hawaii was once the Kingdom of Hawaii, with a monarchy that was afforded full diplomatic recognition by the United States. On January 17, 1893, the government of the Kingdom of Hawaii was overthrown by a group of American citizens, who acted with the support of U.S. Minister John Stephens and a contingent of U.S. Marines from the U.S.S. Boston. It is important to note that the Native Hawaiian people never willingly relinquished their inherent claims to sovereignty and to this day, retain their unique identity through their distinct cultural, social and political traditions and institutions. Following the annexation, the conditions of Native Hawaiians in the territory of Hawaii declined to such an extent that Congress passed a law to set aside more than 200,000 acres of land to address these problems. These lands were not given back to the Native Hawaiian people. Rather, the Federal Government held the title and administered these lands for Native Hawaiians. When Hawaii achieved statehood, these lands were included in a public trust and the Federal Government transferred administrative responsibility to the government of the State of Hawaii. To this day, Native Hawaiians remain subject to the final authority of the Federal Government. Native Hawaiians are a distinct indigenous population with their own culture, identity and assets set aside for their benefit. However, unlike other indigenous populations, Native Hawaiians do not have control over their own land, resources and other assets. S. 147 would remedy this error and extend to Native Hawaiians the policy of self- governance and self-determination currently practiced by American Indians and Alaska Natives. It is important to note that the Federal Government already treats Native Hawaiians as an indigenous population in many respects. The U.S. Congress has enacted over 160 laws designed to address the conditions of Native Hawaiians. These Federal laws provide for the provision of healthcare, education, job training, the preservation of native languages, the protection of Native American graves and the repatriation of Native American human remains. Thus, recognition would not necessitate new programs nor would it impact existing programs for American Indians and Alaska Natives. It simply gives Native Hawaiians a seat at the table and a voice in matters affecting their destiny. It is time for the United States to formally recognize its special relationship and extend justice to the Native Hawaiian people. ______ Prepared Statement of Hon. Ed Case, U.S. Representative from Hawaii Mr. Chairman, Senator Dorgan, and members of the committee, good morning and aloha! As the Representative from the Congressional district with more Native Hawaiians than any other in our country, I am honored today to testify in unqualified support of S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act, introduced by my colleagues, Senators Akaka and Inouye, on January 25, 2005. My House colleague, Congressman Neil Abercrombie, and I co-introduced companion legislation, H.R. 309, on the same day in the House. Our collective actions mark a united and continuing commitment by Hawaii's entire delegation to the most vital single piece of legislation for our Hawaii since Statehood. This legislation affirms the longstanding political relationship between Native Hawaiians, the indigenous peoples of our Hawaii, and our Federal Government, and extends to Native Hawaii is the time-honored Federal policy of self-determination provided other indigenous ?peoples under U.S. jurisdiction. Mr. Chairman, allow me to be direct: This legislation is indispensable both to the Hawaiian people, wherever they are, and to all of our Hawaii. The stakes are nothing more or less than the survival and prosperity not only of our indigenous people and culture, but of the very soul of our Hawaii as we know and love it. From that perspective, I speak to you today on behalf of all of Hawaii's people, and all those worldwide for whom Hawaii, in all of her forms, be they natural, environmental, cultural social, or spiritual, is a truly special and unique place. And I say to you that Hawaii--the Hawaii that is the indigenous home of all Native Hawaiians, that my own ancestors and many other non-Native Hawaiians embraced since recorded Western discovery in 1778, and that so many throughout the world continue to view as a beacon for what can be in our world--our Hawaii has never been so at risk as today. It is at risk because it is a creation of and rests upon the foundation of our Native Hawaiian people and culture, and their survival and prosperity are at risk. As they go, so goes Hawaii as we know it, and a Hawaii which is not Hawaiian is not a Hawaii I can bear to envision. Nor is Federal recognition for Native Hawaiians exclusively a Hawaii issue. Census figures show that our country is home to more than 400,000 Native Hawaiians, with 160,000 living outside of Hawaii. And clearly the preservation of the Hawaii that so many throughout our world have come to know and love is of great concern to so many well beyond our borders. So our goal is not only reaffirming the longstanding historical and political relationship between Native Hawaiians and the United States, not only delivering fairness and justice to Native Hawaiians, but ensuring the very survival and prosperity of our Native Hawaiian people and culture and, through them, Hawaii itself. And this is a truly common goal, evidenced by road-based support among Hawaii's political leaders, and Hawaiians and non-Hawaiians alike, which spans ethnic, partisan and other distinctions. The goal of assisting Native Hawaiians is not new to our Federal Government. Beyond a longstanding relationship that was reaffirmed when Hawaii became a territory in 1900 and a State in 1959, over 160 Federal statutes have enacted programs to better the conditions of Native Hawaiians in areas such as Hawaiian homelands, health, education and economic development, all exercises of Congress' plenary authority under our U.S. Constitution to address the conditions of indigenous peoples. These have been matched by State and quasi-autonomous entities such as the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, and private entities like the Kamehameha Schools. And they have born fruit with a renewed focus on unique Native Hawaiian needs and a renaissance of Native Hawaiian culture. Federal recognition is the big picture framework by which these indispensable efforts can be carried forward into the next generation of Native Hawaiian governance. Federal recognition is also the time-honored means of memorializing our government's relationship With the indigenous peoples of the contiguous 48 States and Alaska. There, either government-to-government treaties or the Bureau of Indian Affairs recognition process or legislative recognition have extended self-determination and affirmed relationships. Although the difference between those peoples and Native Hawaiians is exclusively geographic, such means have simply not been either available or exercised in the case of Native Hawaiians. Nor is the goal of extending Federal recognition to Native Hawaiians a new one. The enactment into law in 1993 of the Apology Resolution [P.L. 103-150] expressed a national commitment to reconciliation efforts between Native Hawaiians and the Federal Government. Subsequent efforts through the Departments of Justice and Interior, as well as the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders established by executive orders of both Presidents Clinton and Bush, identified Federal recognition legislation and the inclusion of Native Hawaiians in Federal programs and services as top priorities. In fact, during the 106th Congress, the House passed Federal recognition legislation for Native Hawaiians, on September 26, 2000. Most recently, the Office of Hawaiian Relations was established within the Department of the Interior. Structurally organized under the Assistant Secretary for Policy, Management, and Budget, this new office is a welcome and positive step forward in coordinating policies within the Department as they affect Native Hawaiians. Already the Department oversees pertinent issues such as Hawaiian home lands, historic preservation, the Native American Graves Protection Act, the Native Hawaiian Culture and Arts Program, and the consideration of Native Hawaiians in natural resources management, including our Hawaii national parks. The time is long overdue for our Federal Government to create a permanent and sustainable relationship with Native Hawaiians in order to resolve longstanding issues and ensure the survival and prosperity of the Native Hawaiian people and culture and of their special home. For all of us in Hawaii, Mr. Chairman, and in fact for all Native Hawaiians wherever throughout our country and world they may live, I urge the passage of this crucial legislation. ______ Prepared Statement of Hon. Byron L. Dorgan, U.S. Senator from North Dakota, Vice Chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs I thank the chairman for scheduling this hearing today on a bill that is very important to two of our most distinguished members of this committee--the former chairman and vice chairman, Senator Inouye, and the principal sponsor of this legislation, Senator Akaka. I have had the opportunity to visit with the chair of the Board of Trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and I have learned that through this bill, the Native Hawaiian people simply seek a status under Federal law that is equal to that of America's other Native peoples--American Indians and Alaska Natives. Federal programs for Native Hawaiians that provide support for education, health care, housing, job training and employment, and protection of cultural resources have been in place since the 1970's, and that is why the Congressional Budget Office has projected that there will be no impact on the Federal budget--whether measured in terms of budget authority or outlays--associated with the extension of Federal recognition to a Native Hawaiian government. And to those who are concerned that this bill will give rise to conditions that may be similar to some of the less desirable dynamics in Indian country, this reorganized Native Hawaiian government will sit down and negotiate with the United States and the State of Hawaii to work out their relationships and the exercise of their respective governmental powers and authorities. Once the three governments have reached agreements, the Congress and the legislature of the State of Hawaii will have to enact further legislation to implement their agreements. So we will have the opportunity to fully understand the nature and scope of these proposed relationships and sharing of governmental powers and authorities before we vote on legislation to make their agreements part of Federal law. I believe that through this bill, the Senators from Hawaii have laid out a process that is not only reasonable and prudent, but which will enable the three governments to develop good working relationships with one another that will be premised upon their consensus. ______ Prepared Statement of Hon. Daniel K. Inouye, U.S. Senator from Hawaii I thank our chairman for agreeing to schedule this hearing today so that our Governor could be present as the committee considers this measure that we believe is vitally important to the State of Hawaii. Mr. Chairman, in the interest of time., I will ask that my full statement be included in the record, and I will limit my remarks to just a few points. First, I want to welcome our Governor, the honorable Linda Lingle, to this hearing, and to welcome as well the chairperson of the Board of Trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and all of those who have traveled so far to be with us today. Second, because so much of what we are here today to consider arises out of events that took place long ago, I think it is important to note the following--as most of us know, the government of Hawaii that represented the Native Hawaiian people was overthrown with the assistance of U.S. troops on January 17, 1893; but what is less well known, is that notwithstanding the overthrow of their government, the Native Hawaiian people never ceased their expression of their political status; <bullet> \\\\\\Through the Royal Societies and later, the Hawaiian Civic Clubs, all manner of cultural, political and social activities and relationships unique to the Native Hawaiian people were kept intact; <bullet> \\\\\\This distinct status of the Native Hawaiian people is so widely accepted as part of the fundamental societal fabric of Hawaii, that it is not at all surprising that ALL of the citizens of Hawaii came together in 1978 to amend the State's constitution to establish the Office of Hawaiian Affairs--in order to assure that Native Hawaiians would have a distinct voice in the government of Hawaii. As a member of the Territorial legislature of Hawaii, I was privileged to take part in the negotiations that led to our compact with the United States, and I know first hand what happened at that time. It can be seen in our Admissions and it is evidenced in our State Constitution. The United States and the State of Hawaii agreed at that time that Native Hawaiians would continue to have a separate status under Federal law--the Statehood Act so provides--as well as under State law--as our State's Constitution provides. At no time, was there ever discussion of terminating the distinct status of the Native Hawaiian people--under either Federal or State law. At no time did the United States jettison its relationship with the Native Hawaiian people--in fact, in contrast, the United States retained the authority to enforce against any breach of the Hawaiian home lands trust, and to consent to any amendments to the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act. Over 160 Federal laws have subsequently been enacted by the U.S. Congress and signed into law by the succeeding Presidents of the United States--each of those laws building upon and adding to the founding principles that were recognized at Statehood and before--that Native Hawaiians are both citizens of our State and of the United States, but like the other indigenous, native people of America--they have their own distinct status under the law. That has never changed. We are here today to consider a bill that the Congressional Budget Office has consistently concluded has no impact on the Federal budget. This bill does not make Native Hawaiians into American Indians or Alaska Natives--nor does it make Native Hawaiians eligible for programs that are designed to assist American Indians or Alaska Natives. We have put some disclaimers in this bill, but in my view, they are not necessary--because it is clear, and has always been clear, that Native Hawaiians are a distinct and unique native people who are indigenous to the United States--but they are not American Indians or Alaska Natives, nor do they seek to be. Rather they seek parity--equality--self-determination and the right to self-governance as our Federal policies have recognized for the last 35 years. The fact that the citizens of our State--through our Governor and our legislature--so strongly support the reorganization of a Native Hawaiian government and the restoration of a relationship with the United States should, in my mind, hold great weight. We are not naive nor do we enter this arena lightly. We have tried for many, many years now to secure passage of this legislation, and we have not, nor will we--be deterred from the course of action that we believe is in the best interests of all of the citizens of our State. So I thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Vice Chairman Dorgan, for affording us the opportunity to have our voices heard in this--our Nation's capital. ______ Prepared Statement of Linda Lingle, Governor, from Hawaii Chairman McCain, Vice Chairman Dorgan, Senator Inouye, Senator Akaka, and other committee members, thank you for this opportunity to speak with you today about an issue of great importance to my State. Knowing the many pressing national issues you are facing, I am especially grateful for the time you are allocating to hear testimony today on S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act of 2005. I am appearing before you on behalf of the people of Hawaii. We are seeking justice for the Native Hawaiian people, who have been made to wait too long for the kind of recognition that Congress has granted to America's other indigenous peoples. Let me address upfront the claim by some opponents of S. 147 that Federal recognition of Native Hawaiians constitutes a race-based preference or racial discrimination. Calling S. 147 a race-based preference ignores both the facts and the historic relationship that has existed between the United States, the former Kingdom of Hawaii and the Native Hawaiian people since at least 1826. Let's look at the facts. Native Hawaiians were governed by their own leaders and their own laws long before Europeans and Americans came to the Hawaiian Islands. The United States recognized and understood that the Kingdom of Hawaii was a sovereign nation as evidenced by the exercise of Congress' constitutional authority to confirm treaties between the United States and the Kingdom of Hawaii as far back as 1826. When the United States annexed Hawaii as a territory, it effectively subordinated the Native Hawaiian government to the Federal Government. Hence the United States' relationship to the people governed by the Native Hawaiian government was political, not racial, in nature. To those who opine that S. 147 will result in racial discrimination, I would posit that the only discrimination that can reasonably be associated with this bill is if it fails to become law. Let me explain this point. The United States is inhabited by three indigenous peoples-American Indians, Native Alaskans, and Native Hawaiians. While these three indigenous groups differ in culture, history, and anthropological origin, all share three fundamental attributes: (1) they were here long before any European explorer ever set foot on the North American continent or the Hawaiian archipelago; (2) they lived according to their own governmental structures on their homelands long before the Federal Government of the United States was imposed upon them; and (3) the United States historically acknowledged their existence as distinct nations. Congress has given two of these three populations full self- governance rights. The Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act allows Native Hawaiians to receive parity with the Nation's other indigenous peoples. To withhold recognition of the Native Hawaiian people therefore amounts to discrimination since it would continue to treat the Nation's three groups of indigenous people differently. The United States has historically recognized Native Hawaiians as a separate indigenous people by entering treaties with them as early as 1826 and enacting over 150 pieces of legislation relating them, including measures as recent as 2004. Yet today there is no one governmental entity able to speak for or represent Native Hawaiians. The act before you today would finally allow the process to begin that would bring equal treatment to the Native Hawaiian people. You are not being asked to extend the ability to establish a self- governing structure to the Native Hawaiians because of their race. Rather you are being asked to do so because of their unique status as the indigenous people of a once sovereign nation to whom the United States has a recognized trust responsibility. Passage of S. 147 would grant simple, but profound justice to the proud Native Hawaiian people whose future well-being is essential to the long-term well-being of the State of Hawaii. Besides granting long-delayed justice to the Native Hawaiian people, S. 147 achieves four important results for everyone in the State of Hawaii. No. 1. Enhances the ability of individual Native Hawaiians to become more self-sufficient, which reduces their reliance on State and federally funded services. A Native Hawaiian government using existing appropriated funds will be in a position to engage in meaningful economic development that not only will generate revenue for social services and other programs, but most importantly will create new employment opportunities for individual Native Hawaiians. No. 2. Provides greater accountability for and makes more efficient and effective use of State and Federal programs. In more than 150 pieces of legislation passed during the past 85 years Congress has recognized the unique needs of Native Hawaiians. Having a single governmental entity to represent and speak for the Native Hawaiian people will maximize the effectiveness of these programs and make it easier to ensure accountability. No. 3. Creates the best opportunity to preserve the Native Hawaiian culture. The unique nature of Hawaii is derived largely from the indigenous culture of the Native Hawaiians. Native governments, like the one established by this act, are well documented to best nurture and protect traditional native culture and values. In Hawaii, where the Native Hawaiian culture is the primary attraction for a tourist industry that fuels the State's economy, preservation of the Native Hawaiian culture is an economic imperative. No. 4. Protects existing programs by clarifying that the relationship between the United States and the Native Hawaiian people has government-to-govermnent origins rather than racial origins. Current and continuing legal challenges are unnecessarily putting programs to benefit Native Hawaiians at risk. As I previously testified before your committee in 2003, this bill is vital to the survival of the Native Hawaiian people, it is vital to providing parity in Federal policy for all native peoples in America, and it is vital to the continued character of the State of Hawaii. Let me conclude by telling you that this bill will be a unifying force for our State. It is supported by every elected official of both major political parties, it is supported overwhelmingly by people of all ethnic backgrounds, and it is supported by a majority of the State's business community, including the two largest banks. Your passage of S. 147 will allow a process to begin that will lead to the kind of self-government enjoyed by the Nation's other indigenous people and it will reaffirm our Nation's commitment of equal treatment for all its citizens. Thank you again for allocating the committee's valuable time to consider this matter of great importance to the people and the State of Hawaii. 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