FTS-USDA

Moderator: Jacqueline Myers
December 17, 2008
12:00 pm CT

Coordinator:	I would like to remind all participants this conference is being recorded, if you have any objections you may disconnect at this time. And you may begin.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Hello everybody.

(Mike Bald):	Thank you.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	It seems like it’s taking - it took me about five minutes to get on so I don’t know why it’s - they maybe are backed up on - I might see about changing the format to just let people call in. But I think they - because it’s recorded they want everybody’s name, so. Anyway, sorry about that.

	Why don’t we just go around and see who’s on the phone? It doesn’t sound like we have all that many.

(KJ Silverman):	Good morning.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Who is it?

(KJ Silverman):	This is (KJ Silverman) from Region 6.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And this is (Jacqueline Emanuel) from the Washington office.

(KJ Silverman):	Hi, (Jacqueline).

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Are we the only ones?

(KJ Silverman):	I thought I heard somebody else on there. It did take a long time because they’re doing individual intake and asking for the number...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah. Yep.

(KJ Silverman):	And then they have the recording. I’m surprised they don’t just play the recording at the very beginning or...

(Mike Bald):	This is (Mike Bald) here from the Green Mountain National Forest.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Great. Hi, (Mike). Yeah, I suspect that we’ll have a few people join us throughout the course here. But - and it is kind of (leave) season so who knows but...

(KJ Silverman):	Right.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...either way it’s - I’m glad you’re on (KJ) because I was going to actually call you later so we’ll talk offline. I just wanted to talk to you a little bit about the Summit and...

(KJ Silverman):	Okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	The folks who put the Summit together, a lot of them are on leave and that was kind of one of the topics we had hoped to sort of highlight and we did put together some pieces in a newsletter as well as (FS) Today articles and - you’ll be hearing about the report out from that. They have some very impressive statistics in terms of what we reduced or what we saved in terms of our environmental footprint by not having people travel and that kind of thing, so...

(KJ Silverman):	Do they have that available already?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	They do.

(KJ Silverman):	I’m actually supposed to be making a presentation today to the board here about getting final approval for us to sponsor it on a, you know, Region 6 level.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah they do and we summarized it in our newsletter.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay I looked up the newsletter real quick; so that’s in the newsletter?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes. So you could definitely use that in terms of number of participants and the technology used and that kind of thing. If you need more just let me know.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay so that’s the part here where it’s got the highlights, 450 participants...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	...and 25 sites across the nation.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And then on the second page it talks about some of the more details.

(KJ Silverman):	Oh I see, okay; I had not looked at the second page. Okay perfect. I’m going to send that down to them because I’m going to - we’re doing a - having a major weather thing coming in here in Portland so I’m going to be calling in my conference call instead of going down to Portland. So I will send this out ahead so thanks for mentioning that.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Sure. Yeah, it should be helpful. And I don’t know if I had confirmed with you but we do have 15,000 programs for the summit.

(KJ Silverman):	Yes, you told me that.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And the sooner you can get your hands on that and get it obligated the better.

(KJ Silverman):	How do you foresee that I would be able to obligate that?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Well I don’t know, it sort of depends on how you’re going to go about using it but we can talk about that, I mean...

(KJ Silverman):	Okay, all right. Well today there’s the presentation to the board and then they’re recommending to the execs. I mean, I think it’s going to go through but that’s been the glitch for me and especially with the transition of regional forester that I haven’t gotten formal approval from the region that they’re willing to take it on.

	And I think it’s going to be supported and I’m going to get the approval and I’m pushing to get that as soon as possible and...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	So that would be when I’d start to form a team and I guess I could have a team that might focus specifically on how we could get money obligated. Because it’s video - we’re probably going to videoconference I’m thinking that we’re going to have to be in the Forest Service building so we won’t have the expense of contracting for a building perhaps. I have someone that’s working on the option to find out if we can do videoconferencing from some other location.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	And I mean that would be the easiest kind of thing I could think of getting money obligated ahead of time is if we were paying for space. But other types of things I’m not sure how easy it’s going to be to obligate ahead of time.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	I suppose that you’ll be using Digital Visions?

(KJ Silverman):	Correct.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Then, I mean, and the agreement with them is probably the biggest cost.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay so we do pay them then for their (support)?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Absolutely, yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay so we could try to get that obligated?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, that’s probably going to be a...

(KJ Silverman):	Okay, well that’s a good tip.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	All right. But like I said we could talk offline.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	But that gives you the - I appreciate - I saw that you had that 15K at least to start with and so that’s good to know and I appreciate it. And I expect to have the support here. I think on the other end, on the executive end I think they’re excited about the possibility of the region sponsoring it. And my proposal right now is for Region 6 (PMW) and Region 10 to be kind of co-sponsoring. But it’s probably going to take a little bit to get all the final approvals from the three different units, so...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, no, and that’s totally understandable it takes time. But I mean on the heels of this conference, which was really successful and...

(KJ Silverman):	Right.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...I can tell you I went to the Sustainable Operations Council, which is, you know, the Assistant Secretary for Administration, (Boyd Rutherford), and all of the people within the US agencies that are working toward sustainable operations and (Sue Levan) came and did a presentation to them on the summit and everybody is very interested and eager to learn how the technology works and, you know, was it a meaningful gathering and, you know, because this is clearly where things are going.

	And so they...

(KJ Silverman):	Did (Sue) have a PowerPoint that she used for that presentation to the Secretary?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	You know, she didn’t have a PowerPoint, she just spoke. Although I have seem some of the materials that they’ve put together in terms of, you know, wrapping up the conference and they do have a nice PowerPoint and - that’s posted on the Sustainable Ops Web site and they have all the presentations that they’ve been working to get up and all combined and together an we’ve built out a place on the Sustainable Ops Web site for all of this stuff.

	So if you go there and you click on the summit you’ll see it’s live now.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay and that’s the link that you have and that is in this message about today’s call?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes, exactly.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay, so then I can at least report that she has made a presentation to the - to - what’s (Boyd)’s title?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Assistant Secretary for Administration.

(KJ Silverman):	And that was - he was the highest level?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah. Actually there was a member of Obama’s transition team at the meeting as well.

(KJ Silverman):	Really? So I can say that she made the presentation to report out on how the vista summit went and there was a lot of interest in the deployment of the technology on such a broad scale?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Exactly. Absolutely, yeah. In fact there were a few people in the audience who had attended who actually went to Madison and were part of the conference (Boyd) being one of them. And so there was a lot of chatter. And further the point was made by (Boyd) that the Forest Service got USDA over the goal line in terms of meeting EO 13423 requirements because of our implementation of (EMS) and some of the other work we’d done in our reduction of fuel and that kind of thing.

	So the Forest Service is clearly sort of profiled and highlighted in this effort it, you know, from the department standpoint.

(Jim McGuiness):	Hey this is (Jim McGuiness). I just want to tell you I’ve been listening so (KJ) I’ve got that information for our call this afternoon and I’ll bring, you know, this kind of idea forward in that call.

(KJ Silverman):	Yeah, you know the reason that I can’t make the call this afternoon, Jacqueline, is the report out from (Sue)’s group on, you know, kind of a after action review for the summit.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes.

(KJ Silverman):	(Jim McGuiness) who’s on the phone was our virtual team leader here in Portland so I asked him to sit in on that call this afternoon because I’m going to be either in person or virtually briefing our climate change strategy board about - hopefully to get a positive recommendation that we would go forward and sponsor the summit for next fall.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Nice, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	So if they cancel that meeting, (Jim), then I’ll be able to join you.

(Jim McGuiness):	Great.

(KJ Silverman):	But..

(Jim McGuiness):	But I hope they don’t cancel it for the sake of, you know, finding the next step toward this...

(KJ Silverman):	Right, I told them that was my main headache with them canceling was that I really, really needed to get an answer so. So, yeah, this is very timely, Jacqueline, to have information that will help me. And again I don’t feel that we don’t have support but there’s some folks that are a little nervous about the kind of resources that we need to put together, human resources, to put something like this one.

	I’m less nervous about it because I’ve already got folks from the field contacting me and interested in participating in that deployment.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, no and it’s understandable I mean, because these things always take on a life of their own but, you know, it’s something that’s going to be - there’s no question highly relevant and increasingly viewed and looked at and supported in the upcoming years, I have no doubt. There seems to be a keen interest in the transition team on everything about sustainable operations. And so, you know, it’s clearly taking a front seat.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Hey, guys, this is (Sherry Warmsted); I was on the planning team for the Northeastern area. And I know that during our call this afternoon we are going to try to compile some lessons learned to share. And so that’ll be good or you guys. And I’m just beginning to analyze the evaluations from the summit as well so we’ll also have some results of the evaluations that came in. I just checked this morning and there were 99 evaluations submitted so that’s good.

	And what else was I going to say? Just feel free to contact any one of us as you go through the process. And I’d encourage as you form that team that’s going to be made up of the region (station), whoever is part of the planning just make sure that you offer up and delegate out tasks for others outside teams.

	So for specific sessions or tracks, you know, make sure that you don’t have everyone on that team responsible; make sure you let other people help out.

(KJ Silverman):	Yeah, that’s my highest and best goal is to immediately start to form those teams so that I’m hoping that if everybody has small pieces then it won’t be too onerous for all of us that are the - so now it will be all in your right or your left.
 
(Sherry Warmsted):	Yeah, I’m not sure exactly what we’re going to end up with but, yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay.

(Sherry Warmsted):	And feel free to call any one of us as you’re going through the process if you want some ideas or whatever.

(KJ Silverman):	What office are you in, (Sherry)?

(Sherry Warmsted):	I’m with the Northeastern area, Department of Forestry.

(KJ Silverman):	All right.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Hey, (Sherry), that PowerPoint, I don’t know if it came from (Sheila) or...

(Sherry Warmsted):	(Sue Levan) and I worked on it; I did the (mid-day) hour stuff on it but (Sue Levan) and (Shane), (Cliff) and myself worked on it that night after our tour.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And I’m pretty sure that - I know that there - it was intended to be posted on the Web site but I haven’t seen it there because I want to run it here on our big screen monitors in the Yates building.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Are you talking about the summary PowerPoint?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes.

(KJ Silverman):	It’s there.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Is it there?

((Crosstalk))

(Ken Sandry):	This is (Ken Sandry). I’m watching it right now; it’s on the bottom of the page.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay.

((Crosstalk))

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	It wasn’t there when I looked yesterday.

(Ken Sandry):	Yeah.

(Sherry Warmsted):	It’s been there for over a week, it may just may not be that obvious exactly where you have to click to it.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Because I had to kind of look twice when I first went to the page.

(Ken Sandry):	It’s almost the bottom of the page.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay, thank you. There it is. Okay, good.

(Sherry Warmsted):	And that doesn’t have numbers of participants and stuff because we didn’t have all that at the time, but.

(KJ Silverman):	You guys are looking at the Web site, the Sustainable Ops Web site?

(Sherry Warmsted):	Yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	And I’m sorry, tell me again where I’m looking?

(Sherry Warmsted):	Scroll down, if you click on the Summit on the What’s New box and you’ll get to the Summit homepage and then you scroll all the way to the bottom.

(Ken Sandry):	It’s (345) Summary of Summit highlights.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Oh it got pushed to the bottom. Okay, yeah, it was up higher before...

((Crosstalk))

(Sherry Warmsted):	I hadn’t been to it since they added all the presentations.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay so you’re talking about that PowerPoint that’s the summary of...

((Crosstalk))

(KJ Silverman):	Okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	(Stan), is that you?

(Stan):	Yeah.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Hi.

(Stan):	Hi, how are you?

:	Good, (Kim) provided some photos for it. Well congratulations, I mean, it’s, you know, it’s just not an easy thing to pull off and especially the first time around and I’m hearing really good things about it, so.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Very good.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Is there anything else you wanted to share about it or you think the, I mean, the lessons learned and the - the Web site has a lot information on it, so.

(Sherry Warmsted):	I’m not really sure, you know, I have a list of things that are kind of lessons learned in my brain; they’re not all out yet and so I don’t know why don’t we just wait until the planning team pulls some stuff together and maybe it’ll be a bit more organized as far as that goes.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay and we’re doing our best here to just sort of publicize everything we can about it and we’ll continue to do that through all the opportunities that we have internally.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Has everybody seen or heard about the rechargeable battery recycling corporation (MOU) that we signed?

(Mike Bald):	Yes.

(Ken Sandry):	Yes.

(KJ Silverman):	Out available for the field now?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, we’re working on - we’re going to get a letter out and we’re putting together a spreadsheet of key contacts throughout all the regions and how you go about getting the boxes. And our property folks were concerned that we, you know, distinguish clearly between personally owned cell phones versus government owned cell phones or batteries because there’s a different process for the government owned.

	And I’m still trying to get an answer of what exactly they do with them and wouldn’t it make sense that we would recycle them and it’s just not coming clear. So I’m going to, you know, I’m just trying to work with the right staff to make sure that we describe exactly what needs to be done if you have a government owned cell phone how you get it recycled because it’s just so much easier and it’s open to the public too to go ahead and collect these rechargeable batteries and it’s not just cell phone batteries but those are probably the most commonly used rechargeable battery.

	But you can put these in offices and collect them and they come in a self-addressed box that has a bag that you - when you’re done you just seal it up and it’s already addressed and you send it off and it’s - it couldn’t be easier. And then it’s specially coded so that when the RBRC gets it they know that it was collected at one of our sites and any money they recover they are donating to the Boys and Girls Club to get kids outside.

	So it’s just a realy great partnership put together by (Susan Alden) in the Rocky Mountain Region and we’re just trying to make it as national as possible and I’m trying to get other USDA agencies as well as the national headquarters here to really participate in the program so that we can maximize.

(KJ Silverman):	So when do you think that would be?  (Unintelligible)?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	I would say look for it this week like Friday at the latest, I mean, this is a rough time to sort of do anything because you feel like you miss people. But - and then everybody comes back to full inboxes and it might get lost. But what we’ll post about it on our Web site and - but the letter should come out this week.

(KJ Silverman):	So that’ll come out through the regular mailroom process?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes, and I can copy everyone too. I’m apprehensive to send people too much because then people start ignoring your emails. But I, you know, I would - with this because we need to really sort of be clear on - we really need to get the word out. I think I will send it across to this mailing list.

(Sherry Warmsted):	I think that’s a good idea. I’m glad you mentioned it. And this is (Sherry) talking again. I saw the (MOU) and when I read it I wasn’t sure if it was something specific for the Rocky Mountain region or if it was a national (MOU). But I did share information about the program regardless of the (MOU) with folks in the Northeastern area and Northern Research Station.

	And I know two of our sites have already gone online and submitted to be a location. And I wasn’t sure if through that (MOU) if the call to recycle program would automatically pick up that we were Forest Service and it should be part of that or what.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, you know, that’s a good question. I’m not sure. When you get the boxes sent to you they code them in a special way and so...

(Sherry Warmsted):	Okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...I’m working with (Susan) to just clearly describe the process and maybe put together an FAQ or a question and answer and so that we’ve got all our information in one place so that people can navigate through it easily enough. But if you want you can always send me or her and email and we can track it down too.

(Sherry Warmsted):	It was pretty painless; it took like two minutes to go online and sign up.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Great. Okay, good.

(KJ Silverman):	We already have been using that company, you know, even ahead of those as far as recycling, you know, just our normal service, our - where they send you the box and you can send back cell phones or rechargeable batteries. I think we just sent a loaded box back a little while ago. Because, you know, you can sign up with them anyhow as a business and be a site...

((Crosstalk))

(KJ Silverman):	So I’ll be interested to look at that and see how that makes it different from what we’re already doing.

(Sherry Warmsted):	It sounds like maybe it actually specifies what the proceeds go to and...

((Crosstalk))

(Sherry Warmsted):	...kind of coordinates what’s all coming from the Forest Service so you can get maybe volume, I don’t know.

	I had another question if we’re ready to move on.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, sure.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Okay in the past - and this is (Sherry) again - in the past I had heard some information about what to do with CDs and DVDs that aren’t wanted anymore. And I was wondering if anyone has some information on recycling them or you can send DVDs and CDs - CDs and DVDs?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	(KJ), you guys did some - I think it was Region 6 that I heard about that?

(KJ Silverman):	I’m sorry, what was that that you’re referring to?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	The...

(Sherry Warmsted):	Trying to recycle CDs and DVDs?

(KJ Silverman):	No I don’t - somebody may have looked into that; I don’t recall that we had advice. And I don’t remember that I sent out anything specific on that but I think that - I think that you can do that. I mean, I don’t think we have - I have a student who’s doing (periodic) work and like on something like that that would be a good example of a project for her where she’d figure out how to do it and then she writes up a little paper and then we can share it with everyone.

	And I don’t think that we’ve done that topic areas. I could put that on...

(Sherry Warmsted):	Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	...I could put that on her list, Jacqueline.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	I was, yeah, you know, as you were saying I’m searching our Web site because I know I’ve seen some - I’ve posted something about this before. Recycling of LCD projectors. The USDA also has a Web site that is quite content rich about sustainable operations too. It’s their USDA Green site, tips and resources. They have - anyway it’s a good question because I have a whole stack of them here that I’d like to know what to do with them too.

(KJ Silverman):	Jacqueline, you know, we were talking about coordinating our Web site so the work would be for my students. And I know, at least with my one Job Corp student that she’s - she’s only working one week a month right now.

	And that’s the kind of thing she really excels at when I give her a specific recycling task and she kind of figures out, you know, how to do it, where to do it and then I’ve had her write up these little one or two page things; like on the battery recycling here, I think we posted it to the Google Share site. She went to some of the big battery recycling company sites and they have some good info, for instance on - because I was curious what percentage of the materials from recycled batteries do they actually reclaim, you know, like what really happens to them.

	And so she found some really good information on that and we were able to share back. I think it’s like 90% of metals and other precious, you know, metal type items that are in batteries. And anyhow that’s the kind of thing she sells out, so if there’s anything like that that we need to research I can put that on her program of work.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	That would be great. I’d also love to know what to do with binders; three-ring binders. Our office here is just full of them and they have metal and plastic and other materials and we just don’t seem to have the room for them and it’s just - we’re still using them and I’ve seen the cardboard recyclable ones and hopefully we can switch to those. But what do we do with the hundreds and thousands of binders we have?

(KJ Silverman):	Yeah, the best that we’ve able to tell, because there is a plethora of types of binders you can buy now where they’re, you know, where you can, you know, save the metal and replace the outside part and/or or the outside part is made out of a high percentage of recycled material. And those being in addition to those solid cardboard ones that (Anna) has shared with us.

	But as far as the older ones I think the main thing was the reusing.

(Ken Sandry):	Take a truckload of them to the local high school or - high school is a good place to start. No, we’ve done that here.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Good thought. We’re about to donate three huge boxes of staplers and hole punches and pens and all kinds of stuff to some elementary schools here in DC.

(Mike Bald):	Yeah, that’s great.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Good.

(Mike Bald):	That's a beginning too of a cooperative of cooperative - a little green thing partnership with some schools.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, and you know, I’m - hesitate to say this because I know this whole conversation is being recorded too but, you know, we have government property issues when it comes to a lot of this stuff because I looked into also trying to get surplus computers and other surplus items back into circulation in use before they’re completely obsolete and it’s just so much work to actually do it how they want you to do it that it’s - I find it a little discouraging and so I hope that as we go greener and greener our policies support a more expedited way to actually reuse and recycle a lot of our property.

(Ken Sandry):	I agree. I think that’s a really important thing. This is (Ken Sandry) at (Great Towers). Excess property has always been a real pure and it's so tied to recycling; I don’t know why it can’t be that that becomes an issue for discussion. So many items get trashed because of an interpretation of the excess property laws and they don’t need to be. These items can be reused or sent off. And sometimes I find that it actually is an interpretation because when I was in the Parks Service it was interpreted differently. And it always comes down to that issue of who decides what is value. You know, excess property of value has to be dealt with differently.

	And, you know, if something is nothing more than its metal content the aluminum value, it’s still held as value even though - it’s really vague and hard to understand. And that might be something that someone wants to - someone could pursue and make that a little more easy but I guess it goes all the way up to - outside of our agency.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	No, but it’s true and, you know, we are, you know, at least talking about it.

(Sherry Warmsted):	(Trista Patterson) - this is (Sherry) again - brought up that at the Center of Operations Summit during the green purchasing session I think it was. And had said that at the prior summit in Denver I think it was (Boyd) or somebody had said that they would work on getting some checkbox added to a form so that when excess property had gone through that process to be auctioned off and was not - nobody auctioned, you know, it was not successfully sold that instead of going into the excess property list and being disposed of you would check this box and then you could give it away to anybody and that could include furniture, computers or whatever.

	And that - I don’t know whether that’s - from the sense I got from (Trista) is that had never happened and she was asking, you know, about that sort of follow up on it.

(Ken Sandry):	Yeah.

(Sherry Warmsted):	But just as background history. (Trista) would be a good person to talk to.

Anna:	Who?

(Sherry Warmsted):	(Trista Patterson).

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay.

(Sherry Warmsted):	(Unintelligible).

(Jacqueline Emanuel):		Yeah, we definitely need to make it easier for people, that is for sure. So I’ll follow up with her.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Okay.

(Jim McGuiness):	This is (Jim McGuiness). There might be some new programs emerging here in the next couple of months with the new administration too. I think it’d be good to continue to track that and find out if GSA or other programs are, you know, collaborating on taking some of those things off. It’d be interesting for us also to suggest that at the USDA department level anyway.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Yeah. Yeah, there’s probably never been an better opportunity, that’s for sure. What kind of tie do we have into those - I forgot the name of it but the USDA Sustainable Operations Council or something and then there’s a number of teams?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	What kind of tie do we have into it?

(Sherry Warmsted):	Yeah, like we have representation on the team?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	We do, yeah. (Jackie Myers) is the member of the Council. They meet quarterly so they’re meeting again in February. But we work with them, you know, a little more closely than that when it comes - especially to reporting as a department about our (EO 13423) compliance. So I suspect that we’ll be, you know, communicating with them even a little bit more regularly. But, yeah, we’re on - we’re a member on that council.

(Sherry Warmsted):	And then (Boyd) had mentioned some different teams that were focusing the different (unintelligible) footprint areas. Do we have any Forest Service people on any of those teams, do you know?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	I don’t know. I don’t know what those teams are. So I don’t know but I know that there’s regular communication, for example, between the engineering folks who, you know, are responsible for the fleet and the fuel and the facilities with the team that would need to know and track and be accountable for that.

	And then there’s the property and purchasing, the acquisition people who work directly with their sort of counterparts or the leadership for the department who oversees those kinds of procurements and that kind of thing. So, you know, the scope and scale of our agency is - I think we’re definitely one of the largest USDA so there’s a lot of direct communication amongst those people with the appropriate staff.

	So for example (John Rolland) with (EMS) is coordinating with the (EMS) person at the Department. And that’s by design. This whole, you know, the whole idea of sustainable operations isn’t about creating a new staff or a hierarchy, it’s about, you know, doing our business differently and sort of integrating the practces across the agency. And so that’s why the responsibilities for this are so dispersed.

(Jim McGuiness):	Jacqueline, this is (Jim McGuiness). Could you give us an update on the status of the - that team that has been talked about to help transition, you know, over the next couple of years at the Washington level?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Sure. The Washington office just signed an agreement with an enterprise team, they’re called (Teams). And (Chris French) is the head of that team leading up the sustainable operations mobilization unit that’s going to be responsible for reporting on the executive order compliance.

	They have a whole list of tasks, you know, implementing the (EMS) process, you know, creating and initiating the (EMS) action plans for energy, water, sustainable acquisition green purchasing; all the footprint areas, developing the annual energy report, developing the greenhouse gas inventories, managing the development of a sustainable operations footprint document.

	Basically sort of, you know, (liaisoning) and integrating with the Climate Council. And then of course all the score card reporting and policy development. So...

(Jim McGuiness):	So they’ll be taking on the - all the duties of the sustainable operations mobilization team that was discussed?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, you know, I think it’ll be phased in because I’m sure that there’s way more work than there are resources so the priorities will have to be figured out. But, yeah, they are intended to be a transition into making this part of the Agency’s core business and not, you know, again, having - working themselves out of a job with the long term goal of having this fully integrated to the point where a team isn’t needed; that it’s the pieces that are required are divvied up amongst the appropriate staff like ecosystem, management coordination, engineering, office of communication, all of that.

(Jim McGuiness):	Perfect, good.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah,

(Jim McGuiness):	Yeah, that sounds just right. Thank you.

(KJ Silverman):	Can you say the name of the team again?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Well there’s - the name of the enterprise team?

(KJ Silverman):	Yeah.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Teams - TEAMS. It stands for something; I’m not exactly sure.

(KJ Silverman):	That’s okay. That’s fine.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay, yeah. An enterprise team called TEAMS.

(Ken Sandry):	Yeah, (Lisa Whitcomb) is with that group if it’s the same one; I think it is. I’ve got a number of somebody needs that.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And I met with the lead and he’s here in DC this week. And, you know, he’s really in the information gathering mode right now and is just really trying to get his head wrapped around what’s out there and how are we measuring things and what do we need and where do we get it and how reliable and what are the gaps.

	And you can imagine it’s kind of a big - the agency sort of had thought we would be - with all the work that (Anna) and others have done that we would sort of know how to tackle this by now and, you know, we’re just still trying to figure out how to get it done with existing resources and not try to create another layer of - but, again, it’s becoming sort of core - our tracking our footprint is something we would do whether or not we were doing it an era of climate change or whether or not there was an executive order telling us to do it.

	So we’re still not quite there in that and this team is going to get us there over the course of a couple years.

(Jim McGuiness):	This is (Jim McGuiness) again. I’m just going to say good-bye. I’ve got to be a bandit for my daughter at her Pioneer Days so I’m going to sign off here. All right?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Thanks, (Jim).

(Jim McGuiness):	All right. Take care, bye, bye.

Woman:	Bye.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And my role is just to try to, you know, I’m trying to - we have a couple goals associated with outreach and education and internal communication and my role is really just trying to communicate and coordinate and keep things moving and it’s evolving and changing all the time and - but if I don’t know the answer I can certain try to track it down so if anybody has any questions of me feel free to contact me any time.

(KJ Silverman):	Thank you.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Well does anybody else have anything they want to share?

(Sherry Warmsted):	I have another question. Who’s responsible for the Web site?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	We have a Web developer who does maintenance for us but we manage that here out of the Washington office.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And just as a maybe a bit of a heads up in some other Web communications track there was something raised about how sustainable operations was able to do a Google (for) their site because it was perceived or thought that that wasn’t allowed. So you may hear something about that so you might want to be prepared for that.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Oh I’ve heard all that, yeah.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(Sherry Warmsted):	Yeah, until he agency can provide us with a equivalent tool we can use tools that are available to us, so, yeah...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Great.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...we discussed it. But it’s true, I mean, we need to be a little more nimble in the way that we use our Web sites and share information and we don’t have any way. And so we thought we would give the Google Share site a try and see if it’s meeting our needs. And so it really is a pilot and...

((Crosstalk))

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	It’s, you know, it’s interesting. It’s used by a certain demographic and then other people, you know, have no idea and don’t have any interest in learning something new and different. But - so it’s just kind of a little experiment.

Woman:	Yeah.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Have you been on the site?

Woman:	I have. I haven’t put as much time into it though.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah,

Woman:	I almost need to schedule it into my schedule...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Sure.

Woman:	...otherwise I don’t have time to do it.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	I understand. No I totally do. See right now, for example, the way it works if you had something you wanted to post like let’s say this PowerPoint it would - doesn’t it make a lot more sense for you to be able to post it instead of you having to call me and me having to call the Web developer and then the Web developer putting it up?

Woman:	Right.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And that’s the whole idea; it’s like okay how can we share especially just internally because it’s only internal, you know, how do we share resources, information and ideas in a way that lets everybody sort of participate and how can we be more efficient in our operations? And that was what the Google Share site is intended for us to explore.

Woman:	Yeah, I think that’s great.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Thanks for asking.

Woman:	And I was just curious about the developer. If someone has something for the regular Web site...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

Woman:	...I mean you’re just asking folks to go ahead and post things on Google Share or if someone has something to go - they thought should go on the regular Web page who would that go through?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	You can send it to me or you can post it on the Google Share site. The problem is I don’t, you know, I have to develop a habit of regularly mining things off of that site. And what I had hoped to do was be able to set up anytime somebody posted something to the Google Share site is to get an alert that said a new document or something has been uploaded to this. And then I could go there, pick it up, see if it’s appropriate for the World Wide Web and then put it on our site.

	But, you know, I’m just not quite there yet. So - and honestly we don’t have - I mean the Summit was a big - there was a lot going on with posting information and so it’s been a little intensive lately. But...

Woman:	Okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Overall I, you know, it would be just as much work for you to just say hey I’d like to share this can you post it and then I can get it posted.

Woman:	So now the Google Share site is only open to Forest Service? Do you have to have a Forest Service domain to get onto that?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	You do. You have to have a Forest Service email address.

Woman:	Okay. And the other Web site is a Web site that’s open, right, it’s not an intranet site?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Nope it’s not; it’s world wide.

Woman:	Right, okay, so...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

((Crosstalk))

Woman:	...difference there?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, exactly. Now we, you know, we had hoped to maybe eventually have a Google Share site that is - but there are security issues.

Woman:	That’s okay though.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

Woman:	I don’t think that’s bad. I think it’s okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	No.

Woman:	Right on, okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

Woman:	Thanks.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	You bet. Well if nobody has anything else we can sign off. I did invite somebody to talk about (ETET) at the next conference call, which is going to be January 21; that’s the third Wednesday. So these are informal discussions but if there’s anybody who wants to raise any topics or share anything this is the place to do it so I hope it’s useful.

	Another thing we’re going to start doing too is since we do have transcripts from these dialogues is mine them for FAQs. So for example we’ll be looking at those transcripts saying, okay, how do you dispose of binders? What are some ideas and ways to recycle CDs and DVDs and putting that as part of the FAQ. So we want to use this forum because if we’re thinking about it chances are other people are and we want to - so we’ll be mining the transcript for - to put in our FAQ section.

Woman:	That sounds good.

(KJ Silverman):	Jacqueline?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	Will the conference call number remain the same then?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay. Thanks.

(Mike Bald):	Hey Jacqueline this is (Mike) on the Green Mountains. I did have one other question for you.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(Mike Bald):	I emailed (Sheila) who then emailed - I think she broadcast it around a little bit. But just so you’re aware the question is floating around out there, about creating work, first caveat, and then let’s just start with that. Without creating work and additional tracking or mining of information is there a way or is it ever going to be important, is it over the top to ask about travel voucher information?

	Because right now when we report vehicle miles and a lot of our energy numbers do not include travel - basically driving to the airport, driving to the train station, the entire journey that someone takes an then returning. So is there a way to gather information off of travel vouchers, which are submitted 99% of the time?

	And that information is all there but would there be a software sort of device that could capture that additional information without having us have to go to our budget people and - we haven’t done this yet and I hope we don’t have to but I would hate to have to sit and go through travel vouchers and try to figure out how many air miles, you know, our unit flew last year.

	Where do you see that going?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Well funny you should ask.

(Mike Bald):	Okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	There is a white paper from (Lynn Westfall) from the Northern Research Station. And it’s - poses the same sort of question that the travel - how do we really calculate our carbon footprint when it comes to travel. And, you know, dollars are definitely not the best way to do that. So she talked about using one of the existing carbon calculators or adapting one to give a real estimate that includes the vehicle travel as well as airline miles; that kind of thing.

	So - and when (govtrip) was launched we approached the people who were negotiating that contract about putting a calculator on the (govtrip) Web site as part of the process of, you know, if people are learning something new anyway let them go ahead and calculate their airline miles and their travel to at least get a better count. And couldn’t that just easily be sorted in a database and then voila we should have some data about our travel.

	But they weren’t ready or willing or able to really go there because there were so many things to deal with switching over from (fedtravel) to (govtrip). And so we do know that there’s a better way and there are calculators that are used that could be used agency-wide in creating a baseline and developing a way to track it, it’s just a matter of - right now we’re trying to be realistic about what information are we currently collecting and what does it tell us. And can we use it to make better decisions and really track?

	And so you can imagine the magnitude of this - an undertaking like this. All of a sudden we’ve got to really get a handle on this. So it’s just the matter of what are we doing first and that’s why fleet was a big focus for (EMS) this year. But I think we’ll get there eventually. And it is on a lot of radar screens, we’re just sort of struggling with which pieces of this do we really tackle first.

(Mike Bald):	Okay. One of the things we’re going to try to do is the fleet (this year) and the time to do is now actually is just to get some mileage numbers, start and finish numbers for the snowmobile usage this year in the forest; that’s just not something that’s ever been covered before.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	See, yeah.

(Mike Bald):	Okay.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	And that ought to be, well, it sounds like it would be simple enough but...

(Mike Bald):	Yeah.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...once you dig into it it’s like, you know, these always open interesting debates because for example, well, if you take a - when you’re talking about airline travel if you take a flight and it’s only half full...

(Mike Bald):	Right.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...how does that factor, you know, there’s just all these variables when it comes to the true carbon footprint. But, you know, and we sort of know that money isn’t always the best indicator but if it’s what we have and it’s what we’re tracking then it gives us some idea. And I think that’s why, you know, we’re just starting there.

(Mike Bald):	Okay, thanks for the thoughts.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	You bet. Well thanks everybody for your time. I hope that we can continue this and get more people and get more information flowing. And let me know what we need to be doing more or less of here to try to help facilitate information.

Woman:	Okay, thank you so much.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Thanks everybody. Have a good day.

(KJ Silverman):	Hey, Jacqueline?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

(Mike Bald):	Thanks, Jacqueline.

(KJ Silverman):	Sorry. One last thing I wanted to share with you. You know we’re a part of the Federal Green Challenge, EPA Region 10 Federal Green Challenge...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes.

((Crosstalk))

(KJ Silverman):	And one of the things I was hoping to do after the New Year is have a dialogue with whoever the right people are in your office, you and some others perhaps and the fleet arena or in (unintelligible) facilities so we could talk about the process that was involved for us to join the Federal Green Challenge and the base standard that we’re using for our baseline, which is basically the nationally generated data for fleets, related fuel use and the (off) of the energy (step) that I think there was a contact that pulled that together.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes.

(KJ Silverman):	And kind of talk about what we’re using and how it’s worked for us to be a part of the Federal Green Challenge. Because the notion is that it’s supposed to go national next year out of the Office of the Federal (unintelligible) executives.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	And so I felt like we were pretty challenges and we were lucky that we came up with at least that minimum data and we decided to do a reason why submittal figuring that at least we had that data and that that might give us more value to kind of test that out other than getting some individual units involved where they might do some more specific tracking.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	Because I don’t think I’m explaining myself very well but we felt pretty challenged by that. Personally I didn’t really think we were going to be able to join and there was a lot of interest in having as many federal agencies join as possible. EPA became very flexible and very helpful in trying to help us be involved even with a minimum of baseline data.

	But the question about the travel stuff is what reminded me because I’d have to show it to you but when you look at their table for baseline data like when - we picked transportation and energy. And like on transportation they actually had about six different points of baseline data that they would have liked you to try to submit. And one of them was air travel and, you know, stuff that we don’t really have good access to.

	And I just thought it would be good to kind of have a bit of a talk about that on the national level because next year when it goes national, you know, we’ll have to decide how we want to participate. And also individual units are probably going to start calling us to say well how did you do that, you know?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Exactly. No that’s great, I’m happy to set that up. And I’m not even sure who the key players would be but let’s definitely talk about that.

(KJ Silverman):	Yeah, and you know, if we have that same data and I’d asked (Anna) if we thought we were going to - because the other thing is we’re hoping to access that same data at the year end because that’s point of, you know, would be when we submitted and then what the data is by the end of the challenge year.

	So for instance on the energy data if we can’t access that again we’re going to kind of be in a bad spot. So anyway I just wanted to talk through all that with you. And it feels like we’ve been having trouble getting some level of engagement from the transportation and energy type folks, which I think would be pretty much on the engineering arena.

	Then I feel like maybe this is a good way to just try to get them a little more involved for them to understand how we joined this, you know, because it’s all federal agencies and they have pretty widespread participation, kind of understand what we did and how we submitted our data and what the challenges are there to be a very much of a, you know, a vital partner kind of a thin.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Well maybe, you know, and maybe we can do an - on an open mic call where we make sure the right people are on there too because it sounds like it would be valuable for a lot of people to listen onto that.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay. And then if we arrange that ahead of time because I have one other person that - in our engineering staff here that was the person that really helped me get the baseline data together to submit so I’d want to be able to get him lined up to participate.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Give some thought to when you think the best timing for that is; probably not January but maybe February?

(KJ Silverman):	Yeah, that’d be good timing because I’d like to do it early on as far as our needs because I think we have to have our final report in that theoretically would track if we had any change or not. Because we had to do a 5% reduction for the challenge. I mean, this isn’t a, you know, a good/bad thing it’s a, you know, participate thing, right?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Exactly.

(KJ Silverman):	But the purpose of the challenge, you know, we wanted to put 2% because we thought if we had any change in direction of use that that would be more accomplishable in a year’s period but their minimum was 5% reduction. So for fleet transportation, (fuel use) and energy we’re all in the - the category is 5%. So it’s kind of - just an interesting drill to run through, I guess put it that way.

	So, yeah, so maybe, you know, I’ll talk to (Julie) and see if she’s available that day.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, do, yeah, I’d love to facilitate that and get, you know, get some documentation down about it, you know, so that we can - if it’s coming, you know, it’d be helpful to get the (brain numb) about it.

(KJ Silverman):	You know, we had a kick-off session that was where they were honoring and awarding folks from last year as well as kind of kicking off this year’s challenge and we did that by - it was in Seattle but they had hubs and we were at the Portland hub doing it from the EPA office virtually. And, you know, they’re definitely saying that they have been - the environmental executive was online for a while, the new person that they have now. It’ll probably be the old person, (CNS) (folk).

	They seem like they’re pretty determined to go national with it by next year.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	So I just figured - because we need some help thinking about it then because nationally I think it’s going to be something that we’ll want to participate it; I thought it would be a good topic to bring to your level and for you to hopefully be able to get some of your peers in some of the other arenas to pay a little bit of attention.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	I think it makes great sense and I think it would be useful on many fronts and maybe, you know, we can definitely help make sure the right people are there to listen.

(KJ Silverman):	And then just to let you know too that the Federal Environmental Symposium (WEV) is in Washington state this year. It’s like June 4 or whatever that week is. And we will be participating in that. And the person from Navy that’s leading that up has asked me to share one of the - the tracks - I have to look back and see what it is again that he wants me to do. But I just thought I’d let you know about that. So we’ll be - I had not been to one of those before, you know, the one last year was in (Big Sky).

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay, yeah, I remember seeing that, yeah. Where is the one this year?

(KJ Silverman):	It’s in Grand - I think it’s called (Grand Pound), Washington.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	It’s at the Great Wolf Lodge. And we thought about, you know, trying to combine with that instead of doing the standalone Forest Service Summit. But I felt that after talking to people in Madison that people didn’t like the timing in June and felt that we ought to try to go for at least one more standalone here in the Pacific Northwest, there’s a lot of value to the field folks to get an opportunity to participate.

	And we have, you know, just at the (NNI) level we have begun discussions with the person that leads up that Federal Environmental Symposium to think about combining with them in 2010.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	He was mentioning Denver, we kind of threw out to him, gee, you might want to think about Phoenix or Albuquerque or somewhere and then we could have the Southwestern Region maybe take a little bit more of a role. And we also told him that the June date doesn’t work as well for us as a fall type date.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh I see, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	So if we got that all synced up in a way that works good for the Forest Service then we might want to combine our Symposium with the Federal Environmental Symposium.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, you know, I remember you had originally proposed that in your - when you were considering taking on the Summit.

(KJ Silverman):	Right.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	Yeah, I was going to mention that but I didn’t know if you’d remember so, yeah, I was kind of leaning toward that but after Madison I had the sense of people wanting to go ahead and push this window on Forest Service and on the virtual deployment aspect.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes definitely. And I think there’s, you know, a few key people at Digital Visions that, you know, you could probably talk to right away to get a sense of just that piece of it, the technology piece of it and what, you know, what they - what they require and what they need.

(KJ Silverman):	And actually I have person that’s already volunteered to help for next year; that’s (Camery Vard), (Jim).

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh nice.

(KJ Silverman):	I don’t know if (Jim)’s still on - you still on the phone, (Jim)? No. (Camery Vard) who’s in the (BRM) and she knows somebody at Digital Vision so I haven’t actually read it all word for word yet but she is already corresponding with someone trying to clear up whether - would it be possible for us to deploy from a site other than a Forest Service building because I’d like to be out, like for instance at what’s called the World Forestry Center here in Portland, you know, this is our regional office.

	And so she’s already checking into that and I haven’t read the response yet. So, yeah, I would like to get them involved early on as an actual part of the planning team.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, that makes sense.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay, I just wanted to mention those couple things to you.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay, good, no and I want to talk to you offline about a few things. So are you around tomorrow?

(KJ Silverman):	Barring weather. We’re (at the) beginning of a - Portland kind of gets into a weird place when the weather gets really bad.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	Like today we are open here but I’m probably going to have an early release and if the storm gets really bad. Anyhow you need to make sure you have my cell phone, which I can give you now.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	And I’ll give you my home phone because I’ll probably still be working even if I don’t come to the office.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	I see. Okay, what’s your cell?

(KJ Silverman):	My cell is 503...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Five oh three...

(KJ Silverman):	...504...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...five oh four...

(KJ Silverman):	...3402.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...three four oh two, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	And let me just give you my home phone because when I’m at home it’s just actually easier to hear the phone ring than to hear my cell phone ring.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	It’s 503...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	....491...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Four nine one...

(KJ Silverman):	...0991.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	...zero nine nine one. Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	Other than my home phone those numbers are all embedded in my signature block, so.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay, got you. Good, yeah, I’ll try to get in touch with you...

(KJ Silverman):	Do you want to set a time now and make an appointment and I’ll check my calendar or...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah, you know, how about Friday morning?

(KJ Silverman):	Friday morning, hold on a second.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh way, we’re three hours difference aren’t we?

(KJ Silverman):	Right. I think I just had one thing so far Friday morning and actually I just realized at the moment I’m not sure why I wrote that down.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Well tomorrow could be a - oh, no, tomorrow’s not good. How about Friday at 11:00 my time so at 8:00; is that okay?

(KJ Silverman):	Yeah.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay. And I’ll just call you.

(KJ Silverman):	Why don’t you call me and if I know ahead of time that I’m like at home or something I’ll just send you an email and say call me at home, so because I have a Blackberry so, let’s see..

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Okay.

(KJ Silverman):	(Unintelligible) anything I need to be prepared for?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	No, no, no, I just wanted to talk to you about the students and the - just about the funding.

(KJ Silverman):	Right. And I’ve been meaning to get back to you on that, so I apologize. Okay so I’m putting it in 8:00 on Friday the 19th.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Great.

(KJ Silverman):	So I just want you to know I’ve been thinking about the students an I figured the best thing was two options, one is I give you information so that they can put it into work plan for you and then the other thing is I guess they could transfer money to me if they wanted to do that. I’ve been trying to get a hold of my student that I had last summer, not my Job Corp student but my other African American young gentlemen...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yes.

(KJ Silverman):	...and it’s kind of funny, I mean, he’s absolutely fabulous and for some reason when I contact him it always takes him a while to get back to me and I need to press on with him to find out if he’s going to want to come back because that would be the easiest thing for me. And then otherwise I’ll need to recruit. But I was just going to figure out a budget for, you know, like if the student was working two months or whatever is appropriate from a budget standpoint. But you have the data to work with.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Good, okay, yeah, I just want to get a game plan together so that we know what, you know, what the plan is because I’ve got to program all this stuff and..

(KJ Silverman):	Right, right, I understand and I was hoping to get you some data that you could help use the program. I’m really hoping that at a minimum I’d have my Job Corp student. And if I was just looking at like really the easiest thing for me would be to continue with at least her. She will be graduating from Job Corp but I’m encouraging her to - kind of pretty much let her know that for me to hire as a student she needs to get enrolled to be able to start junior college in the fall so that I can continue to hire her as a staff.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, okay.

(KJ Silverman):	And I can hire her as a 1039 but I think our goal with you was to have students, right?

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah. What’s 1039?

(KJ Silverman):	Ten thirty-nine would be just like a regular temp hire for the...

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Oh, no, yeah, we really, I mean, as long as we’re reaching, you know, new students I guess - we’re calling it our Student Intern Program but the idea is, you know, the whole sustainable job, you know, introducing youth to sustainability as a career and lifestyle.

(KJ Silverman):	Right. I love those - I’d love it if you sent those words to me.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Well it just so happens I’m working on a brochure that describes it so...

(KJ Silverman):	I’ll be looking forward to getting that because I’ve already been thinking about what track we might have the Summit next year. If you have any just like a few bullets like that you send to me would help me; I’m always looking for my words to describe these things as I try to explain things to people here and there.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	That sounds good, I can definitely do that. All right good, well I will look forward to talking to you on Friday at 11:00.

(KJ Silverman):	Eleven your time.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Yeah.

(KJ Silverman):	Okay, great, Jacqueline.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	All right. Thanks, (KJ).

(KJ Silverman):	Bye.

(Jacqueline Emanuel):	Bye.

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