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Community Liaison Council Meeting Minutes
July 19, 2007, 4:00–6:00 p.m.
Visitor Information Center, Building 45 (Natcher Building)
Conference Room D
National Institutes of Health

CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENTS

Dennis Coleman, Community Liaison Director and CLC Co-Chair opened the meeting at 4:05 and welcomed the attendees.

Brad Moss of ORS had two announcements.

There will be a tour of the Commercial Vehicle Inspection Facility (CVIF) at the beginning of the September 20 CLC meeting.  Participants should meet in front of Building 45 (Natcher) at 3:45 for a shuttle trip to the facility.  Since the CVIF is a small, special purpose facility, the tour will take less than 30 minutes.

The CVIF’s red and green lane movement lights have remained on after hours due to a malfunctioning lighting control system.  The lights will be manually shut off at night until the system is fixed.

PRESENTATIONS

FACILITIES - Ron Wilson, Acting Director, Facilities Planning Division, ORF

Dead trees along SR355 Frontage:  The 4 dead trees in front of the CVIF have been replaced.  The plan for additional plantings between Wilson Drive and the entrance to the CVIF now includes dozens of small trees and shrubs.  In addition, the purchase of 12 larger trees (18-24 ft. white pines) is moving forward.  Lynn Mueller wants to plant the white pines by the end of the year, if possible.  If not, the target becomes Spring 2008.

CVIF Construction Trailer:  The trailer used by the CVIF construction team will be removed soon.

SR355 Streetscape Plan:  Mr. Wilson plans to meet with the involved contractor and landscape architect within a month.

BRAC:  The Montgomery County BRAC Implementation Committee has requested a briefing on the NIH Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) and Master Plan so they can use it as a model for evaluating the same documents expected to be released by the Navy in September.  Mr. Coleman considers the request to be recognition of NIH’s land use planning and environmental analysis expertise.  The County committee could have used Ft. Belvoir’s recently released BRAC EIS and Master Plan as a model, but chose to use the NIH documents instead.

ENVIRONMENT

Environment—Shah Saleh & Gary Cooper (Capital Project Management Division, ORF); Ed Pfister (Environmental Protection Division, ORF)

Gateway Center, an Example of NIH’s Green Design Initiative for New Buildings

Ed Pfister began the presentation by explaining that NIH offsets construction of new impervious surfaces by implementing best-management practices (BMPs) for storm water control.  NIH has implemented more than 50 different BMPs on the Bethesda campus.  These include flow splitters, bioretention ponds and filters, underground detention, sand filters, curbless gutters (to allow for sheet flow of water rather than a concentrated flow onto roadways), and open pipe disconnects to level spreaders.  All of these measures are intended to diminish pollution from runoff.  
For example, in the northeast of the campus, a “temporary” parking lot has been converted to a green space of more than 2-acres, which is not mowed to prevent runoff.  ORF is keeping a riparian area on both sides of the nearby stream and has created pools to encourage growth of beneficial microorganisms.  

Mr. Pfister then showed a map of dozens of current BMP sites on the campus.  The most recent of these is a vegetated green roof on the new Gateway Visitors’ Center.  The green roof covers about 20% of what would have otherwise been an impervious area.  The rest of the presentation concerned the green roof and was given by Shah Saleh.

The green roof has been installed over the 2-level parking garage and a portion of the roof of the Gateway Visitors’ Center.  No development is now permitted by the County or State without sufficient storm water management capacity, and NIH, as all federal facilities in Maryland, are regulated by the State.  A green roof provides storm water management by containing and utilizing the precipitation that falls on it.  From bottom to top, a green roof consists of the impervious roof structure, a waterproof membrane, a water-retention layer, a drainage layer, a light and porous soil layer (known as “Solite”), and a layer of living plant material. The consultant recommended hardy plants that can withstand constant exposure to the area’s weather conditions.  The shape of the planted area accommodates the architectural elements of the building and blends in with the surrounding natural contour of land. This is essentially a pilot project, but more plants can be added later if desired and additional ‘green roof” projects are under review.

Marilyn Mazuzan noted that the City of Chicago has made a commitment to green roofs.  They are finding that green roofs protect the underlying roof structure from heat, cold and ultraviolet light and also provide habitat for wildflowers and butterflies.  In response to George Oberlander’s question, Mr. Saleh said the soil depth is about 6 inches, adding that the plants are not necessarily native to Maryland, but are alpine and accustomed to high and dry conditions.

Gary Cooper then described the green roof construction. The deck is concrete. Conventionally the insulation is at the bottom of the roof, with asphalt in several layers, which ultraviolet light eventually breaks down, ensuring that the roof will leak. The green roof is built in reverse. A drainage board (usually put on the side of a house for waterproofing) is turned upside-down so the indentations hold water. Fabric is laid on top of that to allow water to trickle into the indentations. Then porous and light soil, which has been fired at high temperatures and mixed with mushroom mulch, is laid on top, and the plants are placed in an alternating grid. Traditional green roof plants include varieties of Sedum, Delosperma, and Talinum, all of which are hardy and thrive in sunlight. A border is used for access to the roof itself for maintenance. With this roof, 50% less water should go into the drains than with a conventional roof.

Eleanor Rice asked whether a water storage system was part of the plan, so it could be used to mitigate drought.  Mr Cooper responded that this is a pilot program for green roof elements only but that the plants are selected partially based on there ability to withstand environmental estrems.  George Oberlander asked about additional construction costs.  Mr. Cooper said that green roofs are initially more expensive than conventional roofs, but extended life, avoidance of increased retention pond requirements, and decreased energy use due to a green roof’s added insulation effect would tend to balance this out over time.  Ralph Schofer added that membrane waterproofing, as is being used here, has been used extensively for a hundred years, a long-lived example being the Lincoln Tunnel.

Mr. Saleh is studying the feasibility of putting a green roof on another new building, and the building 10 library is studying retrofit green roof to an existing building, patio area.  The bottom line is that NIH has 2 types of roofs:  those that leak and those that will leak. In Chicago, the city and the county share many buildings, so the Courthouse was retrofitted over half of its roof, thus providing a sound basis for comparison. Mr. Wilson added that they are planning a couple of garages that will have green roofs as well. Mr. Coleman said that since the Navy will be doing $2 billion worth of BRAC construction, NIH could recommend green roofs in its comments on the Navy’s EIS.  At Fort Belvoir, the Army now plans to put a green roof on only 1 of 23 BRAC-affected buildings.

Ralph Schofer asked about the effect of heavy rainfall on a green roof. Mr. Pfister said that roof drains would still be present whether the rest of the roof was green or not. Also, the roof slopes to allow water to run off, but the plants chosen will develop strong root systems, so they won’t wash away.  

Mr. Cooper concluded by saying that the Gateway Visitors’ Center is expected to open in the first quarter of 2008.

TRANSPORTATION

Transportation—Tom Hayden, Director, Travel & Transportation Services, ORS

Traffic & Parking Trends
Mr. Hayden reviewed the types and numbers of NIH parking spaces as these have changed in recent years during the course of various construction projects.  Currently, NIH has 6832 general spaces for employees and contractors; 452 spaces for 166 registered carpools (2 or more persons each) for a total of 368 carpoolers; 22 spaces reserved for van pools (7 or more persons each) for a total of 180 van-poolers; 1008 spaces reserved for GS-15 or higher level employees; and 313 spaces for disabled drivers. Carpool spaces in preferred areas are reserved until 9:30 AM, and both carpoolers and vanpoolers are eligible to participate in subsidy programs.

Once the Gateway Center becomes available, visitor parking inside the fence will be phased out, except for patient parking.  Visitors will be screened at Gateway Center and take a shuttle bus from there to wherever on campus they need to go.  In answer to George Oberlander’s question about the daily number of visitors, Mr. Hayden said he will find out for the next meeting, but recalls a number of ~2000.

Currently the 5367 people who participate in Transhare (the subsidy program for Metro users) are being transferred from Metrochek to SmarTrip, with the goal of 60% of Metrochek participants becoming SmarTrip participants.  

NIH is and expects to remain below the agreed-upon 0.50 ratio of employees to available parking spaces.  In 2002, the ratio was 0.48, and by 2020 it is expected to be between 0.40 and  0.45.  The Department of Transportation wants the ratio to be 0.33 for employment centers near Metro stations.  Mr. Coleman pointed out that NIH has taken issue in the past with the 0.33 target because of the unpredictable schedules of researchers who may have to work odd hours when Metro is not open.  Furthermore, Mr. Oberlander said that many employees must now travel East-West (where transit options are limited), rather than North-South, although the Purple Line may remove that limitation if it was ever built.

Kira Leuders said that people on the National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC) have never understood the needs of bench scientists, whose workday depends on the requirements of research projects that do not always follow the clock.  They cannot work regular business hours and often cannot even predict when they can go home.  This makes carpooling difficult.  Mr. Wilson thought Ms Leuders should communicate this information to NCPC.  Mr. Oberlander thought it would help if someone could document the number of NIH staff whose work requires such open schedules.

National Bike Month and Bike to Work Day
For 2 years in a row the NIH Bicycle Club has won the DC area award for having the largest number of Bike-to-Work participants.  This year, more than 400 people biked to the NIH campus.  NIH has about 600 bicycle racks on the campus, so even more bikers could be accommodated in the future.  Ralph Schofer noted that adequate shower facilities are a key requirement of success in the bike to work area.

NIH Traffic Management Plan—Parking
It is possible that NIH may not be able to reach the 0.33% goal without reducing the number of available parking spaces.  Semi-annual traffic counts show that in 1992, peak hours were 7:45 to 8:45 AM and 4:30 to 5:30 PM.  By 2006, the hours had changed little, but there were about a third fewer cars.  NIH’s MoU with NCPC calls for NIH traffic to remain below 1992 levels.  Tony Clifford said that 2 things account for this encouraging trend; namely, more people work alternative schedules and telecommuting has become more common.  Both situations are due to technology improvements and to supervisors’ becoming accustomed to the possibilities.  For example, some Patent and Trademark Office employees now come to work 1 day a week.  Participation takes grade level and seniority into account and requires training on how work is best accomplished and delivered from remote locations and how performance is best judged.

Mr. Oberlander asked about progress on the installation of a pedestrian light at Wilson Drive; Mr. Hayden said there has been some progress, but the work has slowed lately, and he will find out why.

In closing this item, Mr. Coleman noted that the traffic figures presented indicate that quality planning had taken place because the reality in 2007 matches what was planned in 1995.

SPECIAL PROJECTS - Tony Clifford, Chief Engineer, ORF

South Lawn Contacts with County Staff

Mr. Clifford sent a letter to Arthur Holmes (Director of the Department of Public Works and Transportation) summarizing the South Lawn drainage situation and asking for a meeting.  To illustrate the problem, he attached photos of rain water flowing and pooling on the South Lawn.  Kira Leuders also wrote a letter to Mr. Holmes, but sent it by e-mail and copied the County Executive.  The latter responded saying that NIH is responsible for water on its property because there is no channel to convey runoff from the county pipe to the NIH drain, and because NIH has a fence in front of the drain pipe.  He recommended a meeting to consider a joint project and referred Mr. Clifford to Mr. Compton, Chief of Maintenance.  The Department of Public Works needs at least 10 feet to work in, and the offending fence is 3 feet from the pipe, so any County work would require at least temporary fence removal.

Ralph Schofer wondered whether riparian rights exist for water that has been flowing over property for a long time, but Mr. Clifford hasn’t consulted an attorney about this.  Harvey Eisen mentioned that an adjacent property owner has asked the county to abandon the small triangle of land occupied by the open pipe, but some Camelot Mews residents are objecting to the transfer.  If the county transfers the property, it could complicate resolution of the problem, unless the transfer was made contingent on such resolution.

Information Forum

Because of time constraints, Mr. Coleman did not go through this month’s information handout, but rather referred attendees to the outline, which identified what was included.

Round Robin

Nancy Hoos asked about tree well repair along OG Road.  Mr. Coleman said he had forwarded the question to Lynn Mueller, who had responded.  Mr. Coleman will get back to Mrs. Hoos with that information.

Marilyn Mazuzan recounted a recent late morning bus trip on the J-2 route to the Metro station.  For unknown reasons, it took almost 15 minutes to get from the CVIF to South Drive (a distance of less than 1000 ft.), which made her late.  She would like to know what caused the backup and for bus drivers to be informed ahead of time if NIH knows about impending backups.

Randy Schofer reported that he has a list of about 50 restaurants offering special summer menus and prices in downtown Bethesda. He has also been informed that a movie, “Resurrecting the Champ,” will be premiered on August 16 at the Bethesda Draft House, which has undergone extensive renovation for use as a community theater.

Adjournment

Dennis Coleman adjourned the meeting at 6:04.  The next meeting will be on September 20, 2007.

CLC Members Present
Marian Bradford, Camelot Mews
Harvey Eisen, Edgewood Glenwood
Jean Harnish, Whitehall Condominium
Nancy Hoos, Sonoma
Marilyn Mazuzan, Oakmont
George Oberlander, Huntington Parkway
Eleanor Rice, Locust Hill
Ralph Schofer, Maplewood

NIH Staff Present
Kira Leuders, Alumni Assn
Randy Schools, R&W Assn

Guests
Dennis Coleman, OCL
Tony Clifford, ORF
Gary Cooper, ORF
Ed Drummond, ORS
Tom Hayden, ORS
Howard Hochman, ORF
Brad Moss, ORS
Ed Pfister, ORF
Sharon Robinson, OCL
Shah Saleh, ORF
Ron Wilson, ORF


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