Date:         Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:13:19 -0400
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Subject:      Re: De-clicking (serious)
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Hi Steve:

Yes, all of what you say is absolutely true! And moreso with LPs because of smaller grooves 
(although disco singles have the widest/deepest grooves of any LP since the advent of 0.7 mil 
stylii). Like I said, we were shocked (shocked!) that it worked.

By the way, I'd be reluctant to use real-deal Crazy Glue on shellac. No chemistry facts to back me 
up, but since shellac seems more fragile and "softer," I'd worry that Crazy Glue would eat away the 
edge on which it was applied and thus assure the "pie slice" wouldn't fit correctly. Might be a 
phantom menace ...

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven C. Barr(x)" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking (serious)


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]>
>> In another case, I was doing a job transferring a large collection of 12"
> dance-mix singles for a DJ
>> (he was going all-digital, actually using his iPods as the players). A couple
> of the records were
>> cracked  or chipped on the edges. In one case, we found the pie-shaped slice
> that broke out of the
>> edge. I still can't believe this worked, but we were able to very carefully
> glue it back into place
>> with Crazy-Glue, using a sewing needle to apply the glue in the needle-thin
> part of the vinyl under
>> the grooves. I really couldn't believe it when it played very well with just
> one big tick at the
>> "tip" of the pie-slice. I do not expect to get that lucky ever again. The
> client was a really nice
>> guy or I would have charged extra for the awful music content of the job! ;).
>>
> I have tried a number of times to similarly repair broken 78's which had "bites"
> (and I had the "bitten" piece as well...!). My experience was that these could
> be
> Crazy-Glued"...but, there was always a problem if the arc of the "bite" was
> tangent (or whatever you call the meeting of two opposite-direction arcs...?!)
> to the almost-circle of the playing-groove spiral at some point. Remember that
> the playing groove is about 3 mil (.003") wide...so if you add a layer of glue
> around .001" or more, the needle/stylus can easily slip into the wrong groove
> at the repaired spot...!
>
> Steven C. Barr
>