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Date:         Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:03:30 -0700
Reply-To:     Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
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Subject:      Re: re discogs and Arhoolie
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> From: Joel Bresler <[log in to unmask]> > I agree with this in general. But would Arhoolie or other copyright holders > want usage restricted to one user at a time unless a multiple user license > were negotiated? I can see how record labels, book publishers and others > would be distressed to sell ONE copy of a given work to the to something > the size of the_entire_ UC system that was then shared everywhere. I don't care how many people are listening at one time. They don't get to take it home they only get to listen. My concept is to have these in Libraries or other such "controlled" places. Not peoples homes or offices. It's different than a Library buying a CD and allowing people to take it out of the Library. > Count on at least some of the listening stations being PCs, not "terminals" > and therefore easily hacked. This is a thought in progress. You have to restrict it. As long as you have it on an institution's computer you should be able to restrict copying via either hardware or software. In order for an institution to have access to the collection they would have to contractually agree to make copying as impossible as possible. It's one thing to go to a facility and sit at their computer and study, or just enjoy music, and another to have it available in your home, car, ipod, work etc. Now, if UCLA started streaming it into their cafeteria or at their Library socials and dances, I would be probably be opposed to that, but maybe not. How about this. I would be ok with allowing 60 seconds of any tune available totally free with no restrictions on the internet. Then you could have a discography with one minute samples of each item. It's not the whole song but it's a taste to give you and idea of what it is and will inspire those who need to hear more to seek it out. Or do we license all music ever made to a central database. They make it available to everyone under different deals. A listening library pays a yearly license fee, a consumer gets to download it for $?? a radio station pays a different fee, and internet listener another and after 75 years it's P.D. and free. (I currently like 75 years, 50 is too short and US law is ridiculous!) A reasonable solution needs to be worked out that protects the copyright holder, musicians, song writers, publishers, etc, and gives fair use access to the public. What I have suggested actually gives Arhoolie's music exposure that could translate into sales. Tom Diamant Arhoolie Records 10341 San Pablo Ave. El Cerrito, CA 94530 USA 510-525-7471 fax: 510-525-1204 email: [log in to unmask] http://www.arhoolie.com


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