Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2006 08:57:52 -0400
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I used to buy two sets of the 1970's version of the generic steel
shelving and combine the two sets to make one very heavy duty set. -
Overlaps on the verticals and twice as much cross bracing. Never a
collapse.  I'm not sure the steel tinfoil being hawked today would be
usable in this way. 
I used Luan ply or 10.5 inch tape boxes as needed to take up the space
at the ends of the shlelves so the covers wouldn't get shreaded. 

Bob Hodge

>>> [log in to unmask] 8/8/2006 8:17 AM >>>
I am using Ikea's Ivar Shelving at home which is pretty cheap and I 
think could hold 78s if you get the 17 inch wide boards. Of course 
this works best if you have an Ikea store close by.

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?topcategoryId=15600&catalogId=10103&storeId=12&langId=-1&categoryId=15886&cattype=&parentCats=15600*16146*16149*15886


Erik Dix

At 06:11 AM 8/8/2006, you wrote:
>This solution definitely works BUT you have to spring for the 
>(somewhat expensive) real-deal industrial version, not the garbage 
>sold at Home Despot and the like. Those shelves are too thin and too 
>weak to support the weight. Plus, they now have a pressboard "shelf" 
>that sits in a gutter/lip of the cheapest/sharpest steel available 
>at the Chinese factory on manufacturing day. The result is instant 
>damage to any record sleeve dragged over that lip or sitting on the 
>lip. And that pressboard just won't hold the weight of LPs, or 78's. 
>So, if you are willing to spring for real-deal heavy steel versions, 
>yes this definitely works.
>
>-- Tom Fine
>
>PS - some of my father's 78's were sitting on Sears "consumer" 
>version of these shelves from the 1970's. Yes, back then they were 
>bolted together and had all-metal shelves, but they were still thin 
>and cheap. We took one box out and the whole shelf started to 
>collapse in on the gap! Man, that was one fast shelf-emptying for 
>two people. No records lost but lesson learned.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Hirsch" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] LP RECORD STORAGE
>
>
>>I'm surprised no one has suggested metal industrial shelving. It 
>>ain't beautiful, but it is strong enough to support vinyl or 
>>shellac in large quantities and doesn't cost nearly as much as a 
>>decent wood set up. I have not done an exhaustive search, but this 
>>is one example of what comes up if you put "industrial metal 
>>shelving" into Metacrawler (or your own favorite search):
>>
>>http://www.gilmorekramer.com/more_info/stand_alone_offset_angle_shelving/stand_alone_offset_angle_shelving.shtml

>>
>>You need to put in some sort of bookends, I assume, since the ends 
>>are open, but this seems to be a good no-nonsense approach.
>>
>>Yours truly,
>>
>>Peter Hirsch
>>
>>Tom Fine wrote:
>>>Hi Rod:
>>>
>>>If you have something like an AC Moore store in those parts, they 
>>>have pine cubes that are perfect for that use. The cubes are about 
>>>12" by 12" (made either in China or by super-unskilled labor here, 
>>>so sometimes they're less than 12" but always more than 10"). They 
>>>come in either 4 tall by 1 wide, 3 tall by 1 wide, 2 tall by 1 
>>>wide or 1 tall by 1 wide. I must have 50 of them scattered around 
>>>the studio and basement. The wall o' cubes that holds my LPs and 
>>>many of my 10" tape boxes has got to weigh at least half a ton and 
>>>the cubes are stacked floor to ceiling. Not too rickety and no 
>>>sign of being likely to buckle under the weight. I'm sure any 
>>>crafty-type store out there will have some varient.
>>Hope that helps.
>>>
>>>-- Tom Fine
>>>
>>>PS -- Joe's setup looks like what used to be in radio stations. 
>>>You could just call him up and ask him. Last I knew, his number 
>>>was listed. Try bigyellow.com.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Smear"
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>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:29 PM
>>>Subject: [ARSCLIST] LP RECORD STORAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>Does anyone have advice on obtaining record storage for LPs?, 
>>>maybe similar to those that appear in the liner notes to DOWN IN 
>>>THE BASEMENT: JOE BUSSARDS' TREASURE TROVE OF VINGAGE 78'S?. I've 
>>>seen these wooden type of units, but i don't know where i could 
>>>get them. I'm on a limited budget and i live in the Los Angeles 
>>>area. Any help will be appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Rod
>>>