Date:Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:33:52 -0500
Reply-To:"Z39.50 Next-Generation Initiative" <[log in to unmask]>
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From:"LeVan,Ralph" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:Re: No response from your server
Comments:To: "Z39.50 Next-Generation Initiative" <[log in to unmask]>
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It would definitely be an extension, but that won't help for
serializer/deserializer classes. I'm pretty sure we'll have to stick to
string as the official response and explain the content through the
documentation.
Ralph
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Dovey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:49 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: No response from your server
>
>
> Is seems a bit of a hack though...
>
> I'll take another look. Are we agreed that an alternative
> response would
> be an extension of what I call RS_1 rather than an totally different
> schema? (with the possible exception of the Explain schema).
> It might be
> possible to put a stronger typing to the response, which I'd prefer...
>
> Matthew
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LeVan,Ralph [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 19 November 2001 13:30
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: No response from your server
> >
> > Can't we just correct the WSDL to specify that the response
> object is
> a
> > string?
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew Dovey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 8:28 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: No response from your server
> > >
> > >
> > > Correct.
> > >
> > > I did warn people of this at the meeting back in
> June/July, that the
> > > proposed mechanism for specifying a response schema in the
> > > request would
> > >
> > > prevent cause us incompatibilities with WSDL and also
> SOAP toolkits.
> > >
> > > Matthew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: LeVan,Ralph [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: 19 November 2001 12:38
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: No response from your server
> > > >
> > > > So, if I read this correctly, you have defined your
> searchRetrieve
> > > method
> > > > as
> > > > returning an object of type searchRetrieveResponse. I
> defined by
> > > > searchRetrieve method as returning a string. I suspect
> that your
> > > response
> > > > is correct as far as the WSDL is concerned. But, I believe the
> WSDL
> > > is in
> > > > error as far as the extensibility claims for our prototype are
> > > concerned.
> > > >
> > > > If we are to return a well-known structured object,
> then there is
> no
> > > > extensibility mechanism. There is no point in have a
> responseSchema
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > > request if the object that we are returning cannot
> carry the data
> > > required
> > > > for the response. The only way we can vary our
> response with the
> > > > responseSchema is if we return a simple string and embed an XML
> > > document
> > > > in
> > > > the string.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't that correct?
> > > >
> > > > Ralph
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:06 PM
> > > > > To: LeVan,Ralph
> > > > > Subject: Re: No response from your server
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 08:05:50AM -0500, LeVan,Ralph wrote:
> > > > > > Some progress. Now I get this error:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SOAPException=[SOAPException: faultCode=SOAP-ENV:Client;
> > > > > msg=No Deserializer
> > > > > > found to deserialize a
> > > > > 'urn:z3950:ZNG_Prototype1:searchRetrieveResponse'
> > > > > > using encoding style
> > > 'http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/'.;
> > > > > > targetException=java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: No
> > > > > Deserializer found to
> > > > > > deserialize a
> > > > > 'urn:z3950:ZNG_Prototype1:searchRetrieveResponse' using
> > > > > > encoding style 'http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/.]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I defined my server as returning a String and put the XML
> > > > > document in it.
> > > > > > It looks like you are returning an object of type
> > > > > searchRetrieveResponse.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Got a guess as to which one is right? If it's you, then
> > > > > what do I have to
> > > > > > do to get the message deserialized?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ralph
> > > > >
> > > > > I just came across this old email. It looks like my
> recent mail
> is
> > > > > actually something we started talking about previously.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a working search/retreive conversation between my
> > > client and
> > > > > server. This does not mean its correct. It just means its
> > > consistent
> > > > > with itself.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTTP REQUEST:
> > > > >
> > > > > POST /z3950.simdb.com/Marc HTTP/1.1
> > > > > SOAPAction: ""
> > > > > Content-Type: text/xml; charset=UTF-8
> > > > > Content-Length: 707
> > > > > User-Agent: SIM Soap Client 0.01
> > > > > Host: z3950.simdb.com:6745
> > > > >
> > > > > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > > > > <SOAP-ENV:Envelope
> > > > > SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encodi
> > > > > ng/"
> > > > > xmlns:SOAP-ENC="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"
> > > > > xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"
> > > > > xmlns:ns0="http://www.w3.org/1999/XMLSchema"
> > > > > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
> > > > > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
> > > > > <SOAP-ENV:Body>
> > > > > <m:searchRetrieve xmlns:m="urn:z3950:ZNG_Prototype1"><query
> > > > > xsi:type="ns0:string">title=smith</query><startRecord
> > > > > xsi:type="ns0:int">1</startRecord><maximumRecords
> > > > > xsi:type="ns0:int">1</maximumRecords><responseSchema
> > > > > xsi:nil="true"/><recordSchema
> > > > > xsi:nil="true"/></m:searchRetrieve></SOAP-ENV:Body>
> > > > > </SOAP-ENV:Envelope>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HTTP RESPONSE:
> > > > >
> > > > > HTTP/1.1 200
> > > > > Accept-Ranges: bytes
> > > > > Content-Length: 1593
> > > > > Content-Type: text/xml
> > > > > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:04:38 GMT
> > > > > Server: simwebs/3.1.9
> > > > >
> > > > > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > > > > <SOAP-ENV:Envelope
> > > > >
> > > SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"
> > > > >
> > > > > xmlns:SOAP-ENC="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"
> > > > > xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"
> > > > > xmlns:ns0="http://www.w3.org/1999/XMLSchema"
> > > > > xmlns:ns1="urn:z3950:ZNG_Prototype1"
> > > > > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
> > > > > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
> > > > > <SOAP-ENV:Body>
> > > > > <m:searchRetrieveResponse
> > > > > xmlns:m="urn:z3950:ZNG_Prototype1"><return
> > > > > xsi:type="ns1:searchRetrieveResponse"><resultSetReference
> > > > > xsi:type="ns1:resultSetReference"><resultSetName
> > > > > xsi:type="xsd:string">default</resultSetName><resultSetTTL
> > > > > xsi:type="xsd:duration">P0DT00H05M00S</resultSetTTL></resultSe
> > > > > tReference><totalHits
> > > > > xsi:type="xsd:int">1</totalHits><records
> > > > > xsi:type="SOAP-ENC:Array"
> > > > > SOAP-ENC:arrayType="ns1:record[1]"><record
> > > > > xsi:type="ns1:record"><schema
> > > > > xsi:type="xsd:string">SUTRS</schema><recordData
> > > > > xsi:type="xsd:string">MARC:
> > > > >
> > > > > 041 0 a eng
> > > > > 100 1 a Bierce, Ambrose
> > > > > d 1842-1914?
> > > > > 245 00 a Can such things be
> > > > > 260 b Johnathan Cape and Harrison Smith
> > > > > c 1909
> > > > > 440 a Internet Wiretap Edition
> > > > > 856 s 339k
> > > > > u
> > > > > gopher://wiretap.spies.com:70/00/Library/Classic/cansuch.txt
> > > > > 956 b 1909
> > > > > 958 a Crowley, Rebecca
> > > > > b [log in to unmask]
> > > > > 959 a Fiction
> > > > > </recordData></record></records><status
> > > > > xsi:type="ns1:status"><statusCode
> > > > > xsi:type="xsd:int">0</statusCode><diagnostic xsi:nil="true"
> > > > > xsi:null="1"/></status></return></m:searchRetrieveResponse>
> > > > > </SOAP-ENV:Body>
> > > > > </SOAP-ENV:Envelope>
> > > > >
> > >
>
