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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:02:34 -0800
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From:         Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: genres and genre lists
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On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 06:21, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > I'm happy to do that. There's another issue which is that I'm used to > seeing a reference type that is typically named "personal > communication." This can refer to letters, phone conversations, > emails, memos, etc. Yet the MARC list only has the rather narrow > "letter." Right. MARC does not include personal communications. It has been used so far only for expressions that have been fixed -- either written down or recorded in some way. The citation of personal communications really goes beyond "bibliographic", although it is part of the "cited in an article" type of citation. To me, this is the boundary at which citations in articles go beyond the stated purpose of MARC, which really depends on there being a physical format to the intellectual property. (Something that Stoppard referred to as having "... a beginning, a middle, and an end," and that the copyright law calls "a fixation" although not meant in the Freudian sense.) Personal communication is experiential. Other than citations in texts, I"m not aware of any other formal metadata for that type of ... uh... non-thing. Chicago manual of style gives this example: Ewing, Paul Q. Telephone converation with author. 2 February 1985 I can imagine coding this as: <mods:mods xmlns:mods="http://www.loc.gov/mods/"> <mods:titleInfo> <mods:title>Telephone conversation with author</mods:title> </mods:titleInfo> <mods:name type="personal"> <mods:namePart>Ewing, Paul Q.</mods:namePart> <mods:role> <mods:text>creator</mods:text> </mods:role> </mods:name> <mods:originInfo> <mods:dateIssued encoding="marc">19850202</mods:dateIssued> </mods:originInfo> <mods:language authority="iso639-2b">eng</mods:language> <mods:note type="statement of responsibility">as spoken to [name of author]</mods:note> </mods:mods> There's a real question of: where do you put the listener/author? In the context of the original citation, you know who the "author" is in the citation statement "conversation with the author." Once you pull this citation out of a document, it's going to need some help in order to have meaning. A citation to a book or journal article can stand alone, but not a personal communication. So I guess I have to wonder why you'd be adding this to a personal bibliography (since the same content is not available to you -- it was a one time thing and you weren't there nor can you recapture it). -- ------------------------------------- Karen Coyle Digital Library Specialist http://www.kcoyle.net Ph: 510-540-7596 Fax: 510-848-3913 --------------------------------------


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