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Community Liaison Council Meeting Minutes
4:00 p.m., September 18, 1998
Natcher Conference Center, Room A
Draft

Ms. Hedetniemi welcomed attendees and members, and introduced the following presenters:

Bernard Bloom, Montgomery County Department of Environmental Protection
Edward Herbert, Montgomery County Department of Environmental Protection
James Richmond, Maryland Department of the Environment
Yong-Duk Chyun, Office of Research Services
Mehryar Ebrahimi, Project Officer, Power Plant Expansion Program
George Williams, Deputy Director, Office of Engineering Services, ORS
Joseph Johnson, Architect, Zimmer, Gunsul Frasca

HANDOUTS:

Agenda
Draft Minutes, July 1998 CCWG Meeting
Draft Minutes, September, 1998, Agenda Subcommittee Meeting
Power Plant Expansion Phase 2
Maryland Department of the Environment Organizational Chart

PRESENTATIONS:

Update on Noise: Mr. Mehryar Ebrahimi, Project Officer, Power Plant Expansion Program

In response to recent indications of noise, Mr. Ebrahimi has investigated in the area around the power plant, talked to individuals there about the possible noise source, and has been unable to detect a source for this report. He contacted Jan Gray of the Edgewood Glenwood Association with this information and asked the neighborhood to send him reports on noise, including the time of day and location from which it was detected. He recounted the thorough inspection in 1994 of power plant noise which resulted in the installation of louvers on buildings and indicated his office would continue to monitor noise.

Ms Hedetniemi pointed out that there may be increased noise reports with the removal of natural noise buffers, such as the stand of trees at Jones Bridge and Wisconsin Avenue. She said that a wind direction indicator providing a 24 hour read-out has been installed on the National Library of Medicine. This device will assist in determining how sounds travel from the campus. She encouraged everyone to notify her of the time, date and place of any noise suspected of emanating from NIH.

Mr. Ebrahimi continued his presentation with a description of excavations at the power plant site. An enormous rock formation must be removed to clear the building foundation of the power plant addition. His office explored two possible methods for its removal: a) a hoeram or; b) controlled blasting. The latter was chosen because it produces less noise and vibration. The blasting will commence in a month's time and continue for 6-8 weeks. All blasting will take place in the day time at two hour intervals.

Representatives of Explosive Experts, Inc. described security measures to be instituted for explosive materials. A locked truck with enough explosives for a day's use will be parked in the excavation site; a blasting mat will be employed; the explosive storage truck will be removed at the end of the day.

Mr. Schofer asked if the rock formation could be used for the foundation. Mr. Ebrahimi replied that this had been investigated and was not possible because all the space was required for the building. Mr. Schofer suggested that prior to the commencement of blasting, a photographic record be made of cracks in nearby buildings. Mr. Ebrahimi replied that his office had undertaken monitoring of all adjacent buildings as well as the physics of their construction.

Mr. Ebrahimi's office is conducting a full technical meeting on controlled blasting that will be open to the public on Wednesday, September 23 from 9:00 a.m. until 11:00 a.m. in the Natcher Center, Room D. To ensure complete awareness of this process, Ms. Hedetniemi will encourage participation in this meeting by Whitehall and Edgewood Glenwood Association representatives.

Montgomery County Department of Environmental Protection (MDEP): Bernard Bloom and Edward Herbert

In introducing Mr. Bloom and Mr. Herbert, Ms. Hedetniemi expressed the hope that through this series of meetings with regulatory agencies, the CLC will receive insight into the interaction of NIH with these agencies.

Mr. Bloom, the Air Quality Program Manager for MDEP, said his office was a small agency of the executive branch of the county government. The office is divided by function, e.g., air quality, water, etc. and within each function by environmental policy and compliance officers such as himself and Mr. Herbert and field inspectors. The office oversees compliance with ordinances governing all areas of indoor and outdoor air, water, noise, and waste pollution.

Mr. Bloom outlined five areas of interaction with NIH:

1) NIH as a potential source of air pollution. He cited the investigation undertaken of the NIH incinerators that have since been removed. However, he said the biggest threat to air quality in the county is radon which leads to the next area of interaction.

2) NIH as a body of scientists who aid him in his work. He cited the work on Dr. Jay Lubin at NIH who assisted him in his radon outreach program and others who have assisted him in asthma as it relates to indoor air pollution.

3) NIH as a member of the community. He cited the assistance he had received from Ms. Hedetniemi's office in establishing Ozone Red Alert Days on the NIH campus.

4) NIH as a professional source. He cited circumstances during which NIH had loaned him instruments to check indoor air quality in County prisons.

5) NIH as an employer of county residents. He cited an NIH doctor who was being poisoned by carbon monoxide and how his office had determined that this was the result of UPS trucks parked under her apartment window.

Ms. Miller asked if Mr. Bloom had tried to get Metro to charge less for rides on Ozone Alert Days. He replied that County Executive Douglas Duncan had initiated such conversations with the Metro authority.

Mr. Herbert gave a brief description of how MDEP responds to environmental impact studies. These studies come from the State of Maryland Clearing House to the county executive who then sends them to MDEP for review. In this process the MDEP represents the interests of county citizens, businesses and the county government. They base their responses on good science and good environmental studies, working closely with the Maryland Department of the Environment and on occasion with the Federal Environmental Protection Agency. In working cooperatively with the 19 federal facilities in Maryland, the MDEP has established "win/win" relationships that have enabled them to reassure citizens on environmental compliance. While Montgomery County does not have authority over federal agencies such as NIH, they have worked closely with them and the boards that govern their environmental compliance.

Maryland Department of the Environment: Mr. James Richmond

Mr. Richmond serves as liaison between MDE and federal agencies and local groups. He distributed an organizational chart of the Department to describe its interaction with NIH. The Air and Radiation Management Administration oversees NIH permits for boilers and generators. Waste Management Administration (WAS) is responsible for ensuring proper handling, storage, and disposal of oil, solid waste and hazardous materials. Water Management Administration (WMA) has jurisdiction over sewage, wastewater and stormwater run-off. The Technical and Regulatory Service Administration often utilizes the various databases available through NIH to assist with compliance research. MDE regularly conducts inspections at NIH to ensure compliance with applicable environmental regulations and specific permit conditions. Mr. Richmond stressed that all inspections are randomly scheduled and unannounced. He said that state laws relating to the environment must not be less stringent than federal laws and that all federal facilities in Maryland must adhere to state regulations.

Dr. McKinney, of the Department of Safety at NIH, reinforced the notion of cooperation with county and state offices and commended their professionalism.

In response to Ms. Hedetniemi's request for questions, Ms. Miller requested Bernard Bloom to provide her with a radon map of the county. She inquired about gas lawn mower's contribution to pollution. Mr. Bloom said his office is aware that gas mower engines function without emission controls. At this point they do not represent a major pollution threat, but they may have curtailed use in the future. Ms. Miller asked if his office has considered the impact on the environment of the area's position as third highest in population growth in the country. Mr. Bloom acknowledged this as an area of concern, saying MDEP is involved with checking permits being issued in different areas and coordinating local planning.

Dr. Goldman announced a Recycling Summit on Saturday, October 3 beginning at 8:30 a.m. at the County Executive Office Building in Rockville.

Report on the Clinical Research Center (CRC): Yong-duk Chyun, NIH and Joseph Johnson, Zimmer Gunsul Frasca

Mr. Chyun announced that the final plan for the CRC has been sent to NCPC for approval, and he expects it to be cleared without a hearing so that construction can commence in November. Mr. Chyun introduced Mr. Joseph Johnson, architect with Zimmer Gunsul Frasca, to present the latest plan. Mr. Johnson first described the changes to Center Drive that have already been instituted, as well as the progression of changes up to the final design for a four lane boulevard. Large exterior plantings will be reflected in smaller size plants in courtyards flanking the atrium. On the courtyard ground floors, plantings near the building will ensure patient privacy . The principal entrance to the building will be on the north side into a seven story atrium with a skylight that reflects light. An information desk will be in the center; on one side will be a bookstore and on the other a cafe.

Patient rooms will be located on either side of the atrium. The typical arrangement for patient floors will locate research laboratories related to the clinical research being done on the floor at the end of each block of patient rooms. Every other floor will consist of interstitial space enclosing mechanical operations. This design makes for ease of repairs to the heat, light and air systems or conversion in the event of the need to change a floor's function. The CRC will have a brick face with insulated glass windows and pre-cast cornices and moldings. Mr. Johnson used a computer software program to provide a virtual tour of the interior courtyard that shows the staircase as a double helix. When members of the group expressed concerns about the safety of the staircase, Mr. Johnson said all features of the staircase had not been decided, but that safety would be a primary concern. Ms. Goldstein suggested a psychologist with knowledge of public reactions to such spaces be consulted. Ms. Des Roches suggested a double helix sculpture and an escalator instead of the staircase. Mr. Schools suggested consulting the Consumer Product Safety Commission for assistance with child-proofing the design.

Road Construction and Traffic Pattern Changes: George Williams, ORS

Mr. Williams briefly described recent changes to Center Drive and announced that by September 28, it would be reopened to two-way traffic. Changes to other traffic patterns will result from the imminent ground-breaking of the Vaccine Research Center and Building 37 along with the utility construction parallel to Convent Drive. These construction projects will result in the following changes:

  • Memorial Drive will be closed for 2 ½ months.
  • Beginning on September 29, South Drive will be closed for 12-15 weeks.
  • Over the weekends there will be sporadic closings of West Drive.
  • By March all the tie-ins will be complete, South Drive will be reopened, and Convent Drive will be closed.

Mr. Clifford said that he is placing signs on Old Georgetown Road so visitors to the campus will be aware of road changes. He also confirmed plans to continue use of security guards to direct traffic at critical intersections on campus.

Ms. Hedetniemi said she will keep nearby communities informed of road changes.

Report on Trees: Ms. Hedetniemi

Ms. Hedetniemi reported that an arborist has been contracted to access the tree population in the northwest quadrant of NIH. The arborist recommended the immediate removal of four diseased trees in danger of falling near the Children's Inn. Ms. Hedetniemi will keep the CLC informed of future findings of the arborist.

Other Business

The pedestrian pathway at the south end of the campus has been completed and landscaping of the area around it has begun.

Ms. Hedetniemi announced a hearing on September 23 requesting public involvement in establishment of an office of public liaison at NIH. She wanted the CLC to understand that the purpose of this new office will be to enlist advocates and consumers in the process of determining NIH research needs and patient services. The Office of Public Liaison will be in the NIH Office of Communications under Anne Thomas. Its purpose and function are completely different from the Office of Community Liaison.

Mr. Schools reported the movie festival earned $32,000 for the Children's Inn and several NIH summer camps. His office received many positive comments about the series.

ACTION ITEMS:

Ms. Hedetniemi will ensure nearby community representatives are informed about controlled blasting.

Ms. Hedetniemi will keep the community informed about road changes.

Mr. Bloom will provide a radon map of the county.

Ms. Hedetniemi will keep the CLC informed of the findings of the arborist.

NEXT MEETING:

The next meeting of the Community Liaison Council (formerly CCWG) will be Thursday, October 15 at 4:00 p.m., Room D, in the Natcher Conference Center.

Attendees:

Janyce Hedetniemi, Director, OCL, NIH
Barbara McDonald, Community Specialist, OCL, NIH
Ron Baker DCAB, DES, NIH
Jeanne Billings, Wisconsin Condominium Association
Evans Bildstein, Explosives Experts, Inc.
Bernard Bloom, Montgomery County Dept. of Environmental Protection
Ronald T. Burkhouse, Explosives Experts, Inc.
Yong-Duk Chyun, DCAB, DES, NIH
Anthony Clifford, Office of Research Services
Robyn Des Roches, Edgewood-Glenwood Citizens Association
Morton Goldman, Luxmanor Citizens Association
Jeanne Goldstein, Chevy Chase Valley Citizens Association
Richard Grote, Bethesda Parkview
Edward Herbert, Montgomery County Dept. of Environmental Protection
Susan Hinton, National Capital Planning Commission
Carolyn Revelle Hufbauer, Maryland National Capital Park and Planning Commission
Joseph Johnson, Zimmer Gunsul Frasca
Robert McKinney, DS, ORS, NIH
Ginny Miller, CCWG Co-Chair, Wyngate Citizens Association
Gyula F. Movach, DS, EPB, NIH
Frank O'Rourke, Whitehall Condominium
Ralph Schofer, Maplewood Citizens Association
Randy Schools, R&W, Inc.
George Williams, ORS, NIH

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