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Community Liaison Council Meeting Minutes
January 15, 2004, 4–6 p.m.
Natcher Conference Center, Building 45, Room D
DRAFT

HANDOUTS

  • Agenda, January 15, 2004, Community Liaison Council (CLC)
  • November 20, 2003, CLC Meeting Minutes Draft
  • CDC Mortality and Morbidity Weekly Report: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy in a Dairy Cow – Washington State, 2003
  • NIH/NOAA R&W Association 2004 Membership Guide

WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS
Dr. Tom Gallagher convened the meeting, welcomed members and guests, and reviewed the agenda.

PRESENTATIONS & DISCUSSIONS

November 2003 Minutes
Stephen N. Sawicki, Edgewood Glenwood Citizens Association, offered a correction to page 9, under Other Discussion. He said that first sentence should state the following:

Mr. Sawicki remarked that the CLC should develop a letter to the Department of Homeland Security to express that the CLC does not support using space for bioterrorism research in BSL-2 and BSL-3 laboratories on the Campus.

Dr. Gallagher asked members to review the minutes of the November 20, 2003, meeting and to respond to the Office of Community Liaison (OCL) via telephone if there were further updates.

Presentation and Discussion on Building 33 Risk Assessment
by Murray L. Cohen, Ph.D., M.P.H.
Dr. Gallagher introduced Murray L. Cohen, Ph.D., M.P.H., a consultant in biosecurity and biosafety. He explained that Dr. Cohen had participated in the National Institutes of Health Building 33 Risk Assessment and that he had been invited to provide a summary and to complete the discussion of the Risk Assessment Executive Summary, begun during the November 2003 CLC meeting.

Dr. Cohen noted that the risk assessment project of the National Institutes of Health Building 33 Risk Assessment contained three components: a hazard assessment, as set forth in the mission NIH had established for Building 33; a risk assessment; and recommendations for the NIH. Dr. Cohen said that the project team operated under no constraints and had made recommendations, some that the NIH had been contemplating, and others. He said the project team members included specialists in environmental and occupational health, civil engineering, microbiology, statistics, occupational safety, operational and physical security, environmental modeling, and hazard communications. He said that 15 scenarios were developed. Dr. Cohen cited three evaluation methods: maximum credible event (MCE), based on a military model for the need to prepare for the credible; maximum possible risk, which also included the incredible worst case agent analysis, which used a litmus test of what would be the most dangerous agent that could be used by a terrorist.

Dr. Cohen said a team of scientists from NIH and other institutions had project independence and used a multidisciplinary approach to consider worst-case scenarios. For the evaluation, he said a focus group chose a concentrated preparation of natural enhanced spore anthrax [Bacillus anthracis]. Because there were no existing data as to the threat of what might happen in the community when using the most concentrated, purest, naturally occurring form of anthrax, Dr. Cohen said that the team decided to conduct its own laboratory studies. Dr. Cohen said the objectives of the experiments were to fill in gaps in the existing literature and to develop scenarios that would mimic the effects of respirable anthrax spores. He added that the agent selected to simulate B. anthracis in the tests actually had been a safe [nonpathogenic] surrogate [B. subtilis].

Dr. Cohen reported that the experiments included using a biosafety cabinet equipped with particle counters to measure the pattern of generation or dispersion of the experimental powder?of 1010 (10 to the 10th power or 10 billion spores) concentration?which was as close to pure as possible. He said the experiments involved counting particles and measuring how long it took for them to settle. He noted details of the size of respirable spores used and the concentration of spores tested. Dr. Cohen added that measurements included settling times when spores were dropped or released and dispersion differences. He said the risk assessment focused on the impact and risks to the community from airborne pathogens from Building 33 to 100 meters, or beyond the fence. In addition, he said scenarios were tested with the assumption of inoperative HEPA filters in the BSL-2 and -3 laboratories to see if the substance were spilled from a vial, how far it could disperse through a smoke stack, and project in a cone pattern directly toward the perimeter fence.

Dr. Cohen showed a slide indicating security countermeasures and recommendations of the project team, including threat scenarios, countermeasures, measures provided in the NIH plans, measures planned by the NIH, and measures proposed by the team.

CLC Member Comments and Queries
Ralph Schofer, Maplewood Citizens Association, who served on the Risk Assessment Steering Committee, asked if the spores were dropped in vials from various elevations. Dr. Cohen said that the drops were all from 18 inches. Tom Robertson, Parkwood Residents Association, asked whether the tests included release in both calm air and higher wind speed. Dr. Cohen replied that the most dangerous state would be static, and that high wind speed lowered risk by increasing dispersion and mixing.

Jack Costello, Bethesda Parkhill Citizens Association, wanted to know whether the number of spores or of vials that would be used in laboratories where this research would be conducted was equivalent to that used for the tests. Dr. Cohen said the 10 billion spores tested in the worst-case scenario was far greater than the number of spores that would be used in research. He added that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had conducted a study published in the 1960s about shift workers in the wool and hides industry who, although exposed to 500 spores over an 8-hour work shift, had not become ill. Dr. Cohen said the number of spores released in the test material was 400,000 respirable spores per cubic meter. Further, he reported that no danger was posed to the community when this material was dispersed to a distance of 100 meters pointed directly toward the perimeter fence.

Mr. Costello asked about other agents that might be researched that would not be as deadly as anthrax. Dr. Cohen said anthrax was the most dangerous of the Biosafety level 3 agents and of the type that could be dispersed. He noted that more dangerous agents would not be researched in BSL-3 or BSL-3 laboratories. Deborah E. Wilson, Dr. P.H., Director, Division of Occupational Health and Safety, ORS, NIH, said that other bacteria on the list would be less hazardous than the anthrax spores simulated in these tests. Dr. Cohen added that anthrax spores were hearty in their bioadaptation and that other agents in this category would not persist as strongly.

Dr. Wilson added that not all of the scenarios could be discussed publicly so as not to “train terrorists”. However, she noted that events in the scenarios covered a blast from a bomb or TOW missile [tube-launched, optically-tracked, wire-guided missile]. If the building were blown up, George Oberlander, Huntington Parkway Citizens Association, wondered about the potential cumulative effect of exposure to anthrax and other different agents. Dr. Wilson said these biological agents do not have a cumulative effect as would chemical agents. Mr. Costello and Mr. Oberlander said these explanations were helpful.

Marilyn Mazuzan, Town of Oakmont, wondered about testing animals with vaccines that would be developed and asked whether enhanced anthrax would be used to see if vaccinated animals became sick. Dr. Wilson replied that the biological and physical properties of weaponized anthrax spores differ from the dust spores used in the tests. Dr. Cohen commented that he could not imagine how to dose an animal with this material. He added that anthrax is not communicable.

Eleanor Rice, Locust Hill Civic Association, asked about countermeasures against theft of laboratory materials. Dr. Cohen said there were measures associated with psychological profiles about who can work in laboratories. He said the assessment included asking questions about theft or how could anyone get through the physical security measures in place. Arturo Giron, ORS, OD, NIH, added that security measures comprise several and many new aspects, including the ability to do background checks on personnel via access to databases of the CIA and FBI, limited access to BSL-3 laboratories, and the use of biometric devices. Dr. Wilson added there were federal regulations and policies developed by the State Department denying people from certain countries access to laboratories or agents. She added that a personnel risk assessment would be completed by the FBI or the CDC before an individual received clearance or access to a laboratory. Dr. Wilson said that those physical security measures addressed in the risk assessment had been accepted, and that some additional operational measures were under discussion.

Morton Goldman, Luxmanor Citizens Association, asked for further explanation about the angle of dispersion, noting that he thought there were inconsistencies between the 90 degree dispersion angle indicated by Dr. Cohen and that shown by Dr. Wilson during the meeting in November. Dr. Goldman noted there would be a disparity in concentration between a narrow and a wide angle, because the area is a function of the square of that angle. He said that dropping that angle to 30 degrees would increase the concentration by nine. Dr. Cohen said that a cone at 30 degrees would result in five spores per cubic meter. Dr. Wilson said the cone was moved around from different degrees and angles. She added that the styrofoam cone used in her presentation was small and not a replica of that used in tests. Mr. Schofer said that a cylindrical dispersion pattern had been considered. However, Dr. Cohen explained that a cone was selected because it produced a higher dispersion concentration than a cylinder and therefore a “worst case”.

Dr. Cohen presented conclusions of the risk assessment and process, citing interdisciplinary scientific and community involvement; security, safety, and facility management; identification of hazards and maximum possible risk scenarios; and the design and acceptance of the most stringent security and countermeasures. He said the community would be protected against worst case challenges at the lowest possible amount of exposure (2.03 spores/liter breathed in 20 minutes at 12 liters per minute, or much fewer than the threshold of 500 spores demonstrated in the literature as not causing infection in exposed workers). Regardless of the scenario, he said the results did not reflect a number that would be a health hazard to the community.

Although Building 33 will be fortified, Mr. Sawicki said that this would not minimize the risk of it being a terrorist target. He said the Committee’s recommendation to the NIH did not deal with the general question about having this type of research on Campus and something such as a terrorist attack happening. He said the NIH would be a target of attack because it was part of the overall biodefense plan. Mr. Giron said that part of the NIH security plan had been to make the Campus a less desirable target by developing a sufficiently hard security environment for the facility as a whole. For example, he said that adding the fence and strengthening the police and security force had made the NIH difficult to attack. Dr. Gallagher added that terrorists would look for an easier target. He said that the NIH would be a low priority target, because terrorists wanted to maximize death and damage and to create widespread economic impact, panic, and terror. Mr. Sawicki said that Building 33 became a target when the White House announced that NIH would be part of the initiative against terrorism. Mr. Costello said that, although he had been against having Building 33 on Campus, he was less concerned about a terrorist gaining access to it. However, Mr. Costello recommended that the NIH not ignore the emotional reaction of the community to the possibility of an attack. He said that the NIH needed to do a better job of explaining to the community how minimal the exposure was, because people were afraid of what might come out of the building. In addition, Mr. Costello said he felt that the risk assessment had answered the CLC questions in detail.

Mr. Robertson remarked that the CLC had not heard input from the community members who served on the Building 33 Risk Assessment Committee. Mr. Schofer said that he had monitored the risk assessment process and felt there was little risk. However, he remained opposed to having these laboratories in Building 33 on Campus and thought the laboratory belonged at Ft. Detrick. Yet, he added that he had no plans to sell his house. Dr. Cohen noted the potential benefits associated with this research and said that it was very important to develop responses both to infectious agents associated with bioterrorism and to naturally occurring emerging dangerous pathogens, such as SARS and Monkey Pox viruses.

Mr. Oberlander asked why the Building 33 laboratories had to be located on Campus. Stella Serras-Fiotes, NIH Office of Research Facilities Development and Operations, responded that Anthony Fauci, M.D., Director of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), and Thomas J. Kindt, Ph.D., Director, Division of Intramural Research, NIAID, had presented their legitimate arguments for these laboratories to exist on the Bethesda NIH Campus, with specific examples of collaboration and research projects. She added that a similar situation could not be replicated at Ft. Detrick. Ms. Serras-Fiotes said that the science drove the need for the lab in Bethesda and the NIH Master Plan provided a site.

Ms. Rice noted that collaboration among scientists from all over the world was evident in scientific publications and she thought the NIH scientists could instead use this alternative approach to interact. Mr. Schofer concurred, citing an international conference where participants had been linked by video and internet computer presentations that fostered interactions among scientists. Margot Durkin, Stone Ridge School, remarked that among 160 employees and 800 students there had been no student withdrawals and that the applicant pool for next year had increased. She felt individuals there were not unduly concerned.

Dr. Gallagher thanked Dr. Cohen for his work on the risk assessment and his presentation to the CLC. He noted that much hard work had gone into this process over a year’s time.

Other Discussion Items
Handout
Dr. Wilson provided an informational handout that referred to mad cow disease. The members and guests discussed this and other incidents of animal illness and potential consequences.

Seed Genetics
Mr. Sawicki asked Dr. Cohen his opinion about the genetic altering of seeds. Dr. Cohen said he did not know much about this.

Perimeter Path Safety
Dr. Gallagher introduced Lesley Hildebrand, Huntington Terrace Citizens Association, who wanted to discuss safety issues associated with the path adjacent to the perimeter fence. Dr. Gallagher said that letters published in “Letters to the Editor” of the Gazette and written by Ms. Hildebrand and her neighbors had referred to the perimeter path as “mugger’s lane.” Ms. Hildebrand said she appreciated hearing the results of the Building 33 risk assessment. However, she felt that protecting the NIH facilities and its employees with a fence also had created a risk for walkers using the perimeter path after dark. Ms. Hildebrand hoped that the NIH would acknowledge the risk the neighbors saw with this “area of opportunity” and the potential for assaults on those walking to and from the Metro station.

Ms. Hildebrand cited past crimes on jogging trails in Rock Creek Park and Wheaton. Her concerns focused on the distance of the path from houses or other buildings, that landscaping obscured visibility and, in some areas, parallel fences enclosed the path, allowing for only two directions of exit. Mr. Sawicki concurred and said that he would not want his wife to walk alone on the path after dark. Ms. Hildebrand requested that the NIH convene a risk assessment associated with use of the perimeter path.

Ms. Hildebrand noted that these were unpredictable times. She said she assumed that the NIH facility has never yet been the victim of any terrorist attack like the Oklahoma bombing. Mr. Giron and Dr. Wilson said that the NIH had experienced past incidents of protest and thievery within and on Campus. However, they noted that with current security measures these incidents no longer occurred. Dr. Wilson said there were things that don't happen now that used to happen, outside of terrorists, and that the women walking up our [NIH] path to 41 don't get raped and that thievery had gone down. Mr. Giron said that in the past there were some very unpleasant incidents–acts of destruction–by activists at labs and buildings.

Dr. Gallagher remarked that the NIH had not sought a fence. Instead, he said the NIH complied with what they were told to do [by the DHHS Inspector General]. Jeanne Goldstein, Montgomery County Civic Federation, felt that neighbors who felt this way needed to adapt to this change, and she maintained it was not the taxpayers’ mission to provide an easy way to get to Metro.

Dr. Gallagher said that the shuttle bus provided an alternative means to reach the other side of the Campus. He said that there was no solution which would serve all people at all times. Dr. Gallagher and Mr. Giron noted that efforts to make the path safe included adjusting the height of the light poles and removing some outer fence sections between posts on the south side. Dr. Gallagher added that some neighbors had asked the NIH to plant more trees to the southwest corner of Campus. Dr. Gallagher said that there have been no past incidents along the south path of the Campus. Mr. Giron confirmed that installing call boxes was under consideration. Ms. Hildebrand asked whether she should use them before or after being attacked.

Dr. Gallagher introduced Major Ophus Robertson, ORS/DPS Police Branch, and Officer Gill, Montgomery County Police, whom he said had researched local crime records about any incidents. Major Robertson noted that crime could happen anywhere in Bethesda. He said that officers have stepped up their patrols, using all-terrain vehicles, bicycles on the perimeter path, and cruisers on surrounding roads. In addition, he said there was a study under way about installing blue light phones, which would allow contact with NIH security officers. Major Robertson said that he believed there would be nine phones installed on that particular side of the Campus. He offered that these phones would provide the ability for individuals, who thought they were in an unsafe situation, to call for help, or for others willing to help to contact NIH security. He noted that installing phones was one more step to provide a safer area. In addition, he suggested that if individuals were uncomfortable in given situations that they should act on their instincts, travel with another person, or take another route.

Major Robertson asked CLC members to provide him with suggestions or recommendations to improve safety. He said if they were feasible that he would try to accommodate them.

Badges
Jay Miller, a retired NIH employee, inquired about whether retired employees could be issued badges in order to allow them access to the NIH Credit Union on Campus, as does the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). Mr. Sawicki added that having a federal identification badge allowed entry to the Navy grounds. Mr. Giron said he couldn’t recall a specific policy and offered to contact Mr. Miller after doing some research.

The meeting adjourned at 5:55 p.m.

CLC Members Present

Lorraine Bell, Palladian Partners, Inc.
Jack Costello, Bethesda Parkhill Citizens Association
Margot Durkin, Stone Ridge School
Tom Gallagher, OCL, OD, NIH
Morton Goldman, Luxmanor Citizens Association
Jeanne Goldstein, Montgomery County Civic Federation
Lesley Hildebrand, Huntington Terrace Citizens Association
Marilyn Mazuzan, Town of Oakmont
Debbie Michaels, Glenbrook Village Home Owners Association
Walter Mitton, OCL, OD, NIH
George Oberlander, Huntington Parkway Citizens Association
Lucy Ozarin, Whitehall Condominium Association
Eleanor Rice, Locust Hill Civic Association
Tom Robertson, Parkwood Residents Association
Stephen N. Sawicki, Edgewood Glenwood Citizens Association
Ralph Schofer, Maplewood Citizens Association
Randy Schools, Recreation & Welfare Association, NIH
Stella Serras-Fiotes, Office of Research Facilities Development and Operations, NIH
Deborah Snead, Bethesda-Chevy Chase Services Center

Alternate Member
Joseph O’Malley, Locust Hill Civic Association

Guests
Officer Gill, Montgomery County Police
Arturo Giron, ORS, OD, NIH
Joan Kleinman, U.S. Congressman Van Hollen’s Office
Jay Miller, NIH Retiree
Major Ophus Robertson, ORS/DPS Police Branch
Laurent Thomet, Gazette
Deborah E. Wilson, Dr. P.H., Director, Division of Occupational Health and Safety, ORS, NIH
Ronald Wilson, Office of Facilities Planning, NIH