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Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury (UPDATE)

Posted on: January 6, 2009 12:31 pm
Edited on: January 6, 2009 4:45 pm

Orem, Utah -- Expect the flurry of trade rumors involving David Lee to continue during the run-up to the Feb. 19 trade deadline. We'll lay out the reasons, but first some perspective from a league executive scouting at the D-League Showcase here at Utah Valley University this week:

The executive was incredulous that the No. 1 story coming out of New York about the Knicks has to do with Stephon Marbury, who is far from Donnie Walsh's top priority. "Not even close," the executive said, arguing that the top issues on Walsh's plate involve Lee and Nate Robinson.

Neither was offered an extension before the season, meaning if they're still on the roster next summer they will be fielding offer sheets as restricted free agents. Robinson has exhibited his value as a scorer in MIke D'Antoni's ball-moving, up-tempo system. Lee is averaging a double-double, making his case for a handsome offer sheet that the Knicks would be unwilling/unable to match given their priority to clear cap space for 2010.

It is believed that Lee will be seeking a deal paying him $8 million-$10 million a year, either as an RFA or on the unrestricted market in 2010. That is far too rich for the Knicks, who need that money to attract a marquee free agent or two. Most team executives view Lee as a solid role player worthy of mid-level exception money. He's a gifted rebounder, but is undersized and lacks length, shooting touch, and the kind of defensive/shot-blocking presence most teams expect from a 4-5 man. (In my former job, I wrote that one of the top priorities of the Knicks' new regime would be trading Lee, and it turns out that I'm going to be right.)

The executive commenting on Lee's situation expressed doubt that Portland -- a team known to like Lee -- would trade a package of role players for another role player. The Blazers, according to the executive, would like to parlay players such as Travis Outlaw, Sergio Rodriguez, Rudy Fernandez, and/or Jerryd Bayless in a trade for a star -- not another role player. The Blazers have a star in Brandon Roy, potential stars in LaMarcus Aldridge and Greg Oden, but other than that, they've corned the market on role players. Nothing wrong with that, but why would they need another one?

Portland's affinity for Lee may have been exaggerated in reports about possible trade talks with the Knicks. The Blazers' position, as the executive I spoke with understands it, is that Lee is the only player on the Knicks' roster who interests them. That is much different from saying that the Blazers are hellbent on acquiring Lee. Where does the New York Post's report Tuesday that the Blazers are interested in Eddy Curry fit into all of this? Not sure, but how could anyone be interested in Curry when  he hasn't played a game all season?

Upon leaving the Knicks' practice facility Monday, Walsh called reports that he was trying to acquire former Knick Marcus Camby from the Clippers "made up." The most significant thing that happened with all of this was Walsh getting on the team charter for a four-game, seven-day road trip that begins Tuesday night in Oklahoma City. Marbury's representative, Hal Biagas, expected to meet with Walsh at some point this week to continue buyout talks, but evidently Walsh has other, more pressing business.

UPDATE: A second executive I spoke with here -- one who's had frequent conversations with the Knicks and Clippers -- said the Camby-to-Knicks scenario is indeed the stuff of fantasy. For one thing, the Clippers have recoiled into major cost-cutting mode. All Donald Sterling is looking to take back in trades is cash and short contracts. Camby's deal expires after next season, so the only way Sterling trades him is if he gets a contract expiring after this season in return.

The Lee rumors will continue, though, because 1) Lee is the Knicks' most tradeable assset, and 2) every GM in the league knows that Walsh can't afford to keep him and have enough cap space in 2010. And that is the issue Knicks fans should be focusing on, not Marbury.

 

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Posted on: January 6, 2009 3:49 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury

This is true in every way. I do feel that the Knicks MUST keep Lee. There is no guarentee that the Knicks will sign a marquee name and Lee on the Knicks might help attract some guys. When Lee is with the Knicks, they will have there best chance in the paint. He can pick up the scraps from misses but Harrington, Duhon and Robinson. The Knicks need Lee more than they think.



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Posted on: January 6, 2009 4:20 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury

Every team in the NBA has a "potential star."  How many have rugged bigs that turn out double-doubles every game?  How many teams wish they had players who know their limitations and maximize their potential?

Dismissing Lee as a simple role player is a mistake.  He's not Reggie Evans.  Lee has an offensive game.  He just works within the framework of his team.

And before anyone attributes Lee's current strong play solely to D'Antoni's system, take a look at his work under Isiah.  Guy averaged a double-double off the bench in 30 minutes. 

The Knick's real priority is getting rid of Curry.  If we can get a few expiring contracts for Curry, the Knicks can re-sign Lee and acquire to max FA's.



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Posted on: January 6, 2009 4:31 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury

trade lee to magic for reddick and a first rond pick maybe he battie



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Posted on: January 6, 2009 4:33 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury

trade lee to magic for reddick and  second round pick maybe even battie



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Posted on: January 6, 2009 5:34 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury (UPDATE)

Any team would be lucky to have a  player like David Lee. He is the definition of team first. When Isiah left and Mike Dantoni came to town he adjusted his game and body. He has the ability to be a star. Not to make this a race thing, but generally speaking when a white, non-european player is good, he is ignored or lumped in with "role players". Sure he is no Lebron James, but he is the best player on that team and would be on many.



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Posted on: January 6, 2009 5:45 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury (UPDATE)

Why trade this kid away, he is a young and up and coming star right now. So is Little Nate who is a beast on the boards I say keep these two high intensity players. But what the knicks need to do is to build up a team with chemistry trading guys left and right isnt the way to do it. I want to see Stoudamire and D Wade on the Knicks in 2010 forget LJ he will stick it out with the Cavs. Knicks need a Center and a guard keep Lee unless you can get someone major.



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Posted on: January 6, 2009 6:38 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury (UPDATE)

The Knicks ought to work out something in the middle to make both parties happy and keep Lee. We all know that they have had little talent and few players that were on the court to earn their pay! Every team needs a good garbage man (example Lakers-Kurt Rambis), that's willing to get down in the trenches and put in some hard work. Lee is that guy for the Knicks.

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Posted on: January 6, 2009 6:51 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury (UPDATE)

Lee is a great player and need a star on his team... and Marbury go be a disfunctional team player anywhere but in New York.



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Posted on: January 6, 2009 7:03 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury (UPDATE)

It is commendable that your potential prediction is the way that Walsh is indeed leaning, but to view that as the only viable option available to the Knicks because of this continuing pipe dream of luring Le Bron and another key big name player is being unrealistic.

Let's play fantasy here, all the moves are made, the Knicks get both Le Bron and say Chris Bosh. Now we look at the remainder of the team. A rag-tag collection of no names or once-weres and no real bench depth. So effectively the Knicks as a team are right back where they started, except now you have a few marquee names and no supporting cast to speak of. What has been gained? What has been lost?

Keeping Lee is paramount, he is the one legitimate rebounding threat the Knicks have. If you trade him then you are looking at nightly potential blowouts due a lack of rebounding and some interior scoring that few of the current Knicks seem willing to do consistently.

What I'd like to see is the Knicks try and work Curry back into the rotation and see what he can bring to the equation.and if a trade involving Curry emerges then see what it nets the team rather than weakening it for a run at 2010.

What's not being taken into account is that is a good core to work with in the form of Lee, Chandler, Roberson, and Robinson. They give the Knicks a good nucleus to lure in other potential role players into the mix. Consider the possibility of what might be available in this and next year's drafts.

That being said, Lee is a keeper. He shouldn't be shipped off for expiring contracts.



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Posted on: January 6, 2009 7:39 pm

Knicks' No. 1 issue is Lee, not Marbury (UPDATE)

The Knicks should keep Lee but they also must know that he is not a superstar. The Knicks cannot let Lee get greedy and eat up cap space that could be used in 2010.  I am sick of Starbury.  David Lee is a solid player but not worth a max deal.



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