IMO, Tulsa (12/13/2008 4:37:30 AM)

LOL ... what CD said

Charles Darwin, Tulsa (12/13/2008 5:06:58 AM)

IMO, shucks, thank ya, ma'am. I'm a third generation Okie, and I wish creationist clowns like Ben Stein would take their circus act back where they came from. And they sure ain't from these parts.

my view, Sand Springs (12/13/2008 5:51:57 AM)

Why is it that we have some who are afraid of faith. The bill Mr. Hooper speaks, would die if enough people would contacted their representative and voice their opposition.

Charles Darwin, Tulsa (12/13/2008 6:29:58 AM)

MyView, I'm not afraid of imaginary gods, but I am disappointed when believers in those imaginary gods try to force their superstitions on other people's kids in public schools.

kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/13/2008 6:56:48 AM)

This is a great Bill !!

I encourage the critics to read it before offering
uninformed criticism.

kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/13/2008 7:04:13 AM)

Charles Darwin,

I am not disappointed, I am INCENSED when GODLESS
Teachers try to force their atheistic views on other peoples Kids in public Schools!

To teach ANY theory as fact is Fallacious to a Fault.

This Bill, in my understanding, is NOT directed toward the Study of Science.

So, Can You help me to understand why Science is the only thing you "Guys" refer to in referencce to this Bill???

tbgalileo, Tulsa (12/13/2008 7:28:05 AM)

"I am not disappointed, I am INCENSED when GODLESS
Teachers try to force their atheistic views on other peoples Kids in public Schools!"

Kerugma, you have the option of putting your children into dogmatic religious schools. If you want a state-funded education, though, you will have to accept a secular curriculum.

"To teach ANY theory as fact is Fallacious to a Fault."

Well, shucks. There goes gravity, the heliocentric planetary model, our understanding of memory, the atom (nobody has ever seen one), and many other facets of science that are just "theories". Perhaps you believe we should just completely remove science education from the classroom.

"So, Can You help me to understand why Science is the only thing you "Guys" refer to in referencce to this Bill??? "

Because that is what is at the heart of it, and you supporters know it. Evolution. You hate the concept of evolution, even though that is what the discoveries of science are overwhelmingly showing to be what really happened. This bill is an anti-evolution measure. Aunt Sally is a radical evangelical who sees her first responsibility as evangelizing her personal religious views (with the force of legislation if necessary).

I do wonder, however, how ya'll evangelicals are going to enjoy watching a student use satanic or islamic ideology in the classroom and then pointing out that the good christian teacher can't do a thing about it because of this law? Or, did you "guys" intend for this bill to be just for christians?

Charles Darwin, Tulsa (12/13/2008 7:37:16 AM)

If we're gonna dump science and start teaching religious myths instead, we Pastafarians will expect equal time for the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Give us this day our daily pasta.

kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/13/2008 7:38:06 AM)

tbgalileo, Science is NOT at the heart of it .

I personally believe that Evolution should be taught in our schools as a THEORY.

Religious Expression is vital in any education system. It would not bother me a bit for a Student to offer Muslim or Satanist Ideology in a sincere manner.

Now, Are YOU "GUYS" actually GODLESS? Yes or NO

Bville Yellow Dog, Bville (12/13/2008 7:43:49 AM)

Universities might will decide to disaccredit school systems that let "god did it' be a proper answer in science class.

What bio-tech companies would hire such students?

Meanwhile we Pastafarian's are getting our agenda ready for presentation. I will have clam sauce today thanks.

Oh and then there is the matter that this law is ILLEGAL - and after the state spends millions of dollars to defend this lie of a law - it would be tossed out. Ask the Dover PA school board how it worked out for them - most folks have figured it out, but not the Okies?

Charles Darwin, Tulsa (12/13/2008 7:45:47 AM)

Kerugma, which god? There have been hundreds -- if not thousands -- of god myths invented over many millennia. There are some god myths I like more than others. I don't particularly care for petty jealous ones that have tantrums and create floods to wipe out the human species.

Bville Yellow Dog, Bville (12/13/2008 7:47:07 AM)

Evolution is a THEORY and so is gravity - and both good ones. ID and creationism are not theories, not science - but matters of religious faith which have no predictive value (poof god did it).

But if you insist when can I come to your school district to teach the pasta lessons?

kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/13/2008 7:52:41 AM)

Charles Darwin,

I take it Your Answer is YES ?

So, the Person who's Username in the TW is
" Charles Darwin" is Godless?

Charles Darwin, Tulsa (12/13/2008 7:56:47 AM)

Kerugma, I have news for you: there is no god, so we're all godless. Back to the topic: The Religious Viewpoints Anti-Science Act is a disaster and needs to go away.

kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/13/2008 7:57:28 AM)

Yellow Dog, You wrote "but matters of religious faith which have no predictive value (poof god did it)."
Matters of Science have no intrinsic Social or Spiritual REDEMPTIVE Value.

Which is more important to our personal lives-

"predicitve" or "social and Spiritual"????

Incredulous, (12/13/2008 8:00:39 AM)

Think madrassas.

kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/13/2008 8:02:13 AM)

Charles Darwin, You must speak for yourself, friend.

If Your Godless that's Your Business.

I am Thankful for the Presence of God in my Life.

I sure hope your not a Teacher and certainly hope you have Fathered NO Children.

justiceawaits, (12/13/2008 8:03:46 AM)

If we decended from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? The earth is obviusly more than 6 thousand years old.Neither theory is 100 percent accurate.Science should be taught in schools, and Faith should be taught in the home and the church. Just my humble oppion.

concernedpapa, Kiefer (12/13/2008 8:52:16 AM)

justiceawaits just answered the question for all of you Post of the day on this thread and no one will top it so dont try.

Dr. Strangelove, Tulsa (12/13/2008 8:55:41 AM)

Agreed concernedpapa- and he quotes Larry The Cable Guy too, it's a winner.

kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/13/2008 8:58:02 AM)

Peelumba,

I read one secular book per month.

I burned all the trash books years ago.

You seem to have an unusual interest in the Anti-Bible movement....Have you ever read it??

kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/13/2008 9:01:35 AM)

concerned papa,

You are indeed correct about "justice awaits" post.

But, The "Bill" is about Religious EXPRESSION. being allowed by students..not Religious instruction by teachers

Joshua77, Tulsa (12/13/2008 9:06:59 AM)

Most people who support the theory of evolution point to the fact that an apes DNA is almost identical to that of a human. However those who oppose this theory will point to the fact species who evolved from other species actually took the place of it's ancestral lineage. I'm pretty sure that if you took the DNA from a modern day alligator and any prehistoric reptile that one would find many similarities in their DNA. Just as one reader stated, if we evolved from apes then why are they strill here? Conventional wisdom should have us believe that we, like other species, took the place of those that we evoloved from. Why were the apes special? I believe that we may have evolved into what we are today from several generations of humans who walked the earth. As we evolved our brains changed, our physical appearances changed, and our reasoning and cognitive skills changed. But I sincerely don't believe we evolved from the ape itself. That's not creationism speaking, that's just my thought.

osupokie, Tulsa (12/13/2008 9:11:59 AM)

Why do Aunt Sally and her clan feel the need to impose Christianity in the PUBLIC schools? Is Sunday morning, Sunday night and Wednesday evening not enough for you people? Give it a rest already! How about spending your time better by trying to help the starving children of the state or the homeless mothers and maybe improve our lack of healthcare for our citezens. You evangelicals have your priortities bass ackwards!!!!

Bville Yellow Dog, Bville (12/13/2008 9:28:14 AM)

"Matters of Science have no intrinsic Social or Spiritual REDEMPTIVE Value"
hmm lots of social value - ever heard of medicine or the light bulb? Or is your cave still dark?
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