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                      ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                       ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                             MARCH 16, 2006

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               COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS

                       ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS
                             SECOND SESSION

                  JAMES M. INHOFE, Oklahoma, Chairman
JOHN W. WARNER, Virginia             JAMES M. JEFFORDS, Vermont
CHRISTOPHER S. BOND, Missouri        MAX BAUCUS, Montana
GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, Ohio            JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, Connecticut
LINCOLN CHAFEE, Rhode Island         BARBARA BOXER, California
LISA MURKOWSKI, Alaska               THOMAS R. CARPER, Delaware
JOHN THUNE, South Dakota             HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, New York
JIM DeMINT, South Carolina           FRANK R. LAUTENBERG, New Jersey
JOHNNY ISAKSON, Georgia              BARACK OBAMA, Illinois
DAVID VITTER, Louisiana
                Andrew Wheeler, Majority Staff Director
                 Ken Connolly, Minority Staff Director

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                             MARCH 16, 2006
                           OPENING STATEMENTS

Clinton, Hon. Hillary Rodham, U.S. Senator from the State of New 
  York...........................................................    14
Inhofe, Hon. James M., U.S. Senator from the State of Oklahoma...     1
Jeffords, Hon. James M., U.S. Senator from the State of Vermont..     3
Obama, Hon. Barack, U.S. Senator from the State of Illinois, 
  prepared statement.............................................    42
Voinovich, Hon. George V., U.S. Senator from the State of Ohio...     5

                               WITNESSES

Buchsbaum, Andy, director, National Wildlife Federation's Great 
  Lakes Office and co-chair, Healing Our Waters-Great Lakes 
  Coalition......................................................    27
    Prepared statement...........................................   144
    Responses to additional questions from:
        Senator Inhofe...........................................   200
        Senator Jeffords.........................................   200
        Senator Voinovich........................................   201
DeWine, Hon. Mike, U.S. Senator from the State of Ohio...........     7
    Prepared statement...........................................     8
Ettawageshik, Frank, tribal chairman, Little Traverse Bay Bands 
  of Odawa Indians...............................................    21
    Prepared statement...........................................    64
    Responses to additional questions from:
        Senator Inhofe...........................................   125
        Senator Jeffords.........................................   125
        Senator Obama............................................   127
        Senator Voinovich........................................   126
Howland, William G., manager, Lake Champlain Basin Program.......    31
    Prepared statement...........................................   212
Johnson, Hon. Stephen L., Administrator, U.S. Environmental 
  Protection Agency..............................................    15
    Prepared statement...........................................    43
    Responses to additional questions from:
        Senator Inhofe...........................................    45
        Senator Jeffords.........................................    46
        Senator Obama............................................    51
        Senator Voinovich........................................    48
Katz, Diane, director of Science, Environment and Technology 
  Policy, The Mackinac Center for Public Policy..................    29
    Prepared statement...........................................   204
    Responses to additional questions from:
        Senator Inhofe...........................................   206
        Senator Jeffords.........................................   211
        Senator Voinovich........................................   212
Kuper, George H., president, Council of Great Lakes Industries...    25
    Prepared statement...........................................   140
    Responses to additional questions from:
        Senator Inhofe...........................................   143
        Senator Voinovich........................................   143
Levin, Hon. Carl, U.S. Senator from the State of Michigan........     9
    Prepared statement...........................................    11
Stabenow, Hon. Debbie, U.S. Senator from the State of Michigan...    12
    Prepared statement...........................................    13
Taft, Hon. Bob, Governor, State of Ohio..........................    19
    Prepared statement...........................................    57
    Responses to additional questions from:
        Senator Inhofe...........................................    58
        Senator Jeffords.........................................    61
        Senator Obama............................................    64
        Senator Voinovich........................................    62
Ullrich, David, executive director, Great Lakes and St. Lawrence 
  Cities Initiative..............................................    23
    Responses to additional questions from:
        Senator Inhofe...........................................   135
        Senator Jeffords.........................................   136
        Senator Obama............................................   139
        Senator Voinovich........................................   138

                          ADDITIONAL MATERIAL

Letters from:
    Allen, Minister Jon, Political Affairs, Canadian Embassy.....   216
    Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative..............221-232
    Miller, David, mayor, City of Toronto, to Mayor Daley........   133
Statements:
    Daley, Richard M., Mayor, City of Chicago, on behalf of the 
      Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative.............   128
    Feingold, Hon. Russell D., U.S. Senator from the State of 
      Wisconsin..................................................    43
    Grau, Fred V., Jr., Farmer, State College, PA................   234
    Miller, David J., Executive Director, Audubon New York.......   233
    The Government of Canada.....................................   217

 
 GREAT LAKES REGIONAL COLLABORATION'S STRATEGY TO RESTORE AND PROTECT 
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                        THURSDAY, MARCH 16, 2006

                                       U.S. Senate,
                 Committee on Environment and Public Works,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 o'clock a.m. 
in room 628, Senate Dirksen Building, Hon. James M. Inhofe 
(chairman of the committee) presiding.
    Present: Senators Inhofe, Voinovich, Thune, Jeffords, 
Carper, Clinton, and Obama.
    Senator Inhofe. I would like to ask those of you standing 
in the hallway to come on in, we want to start on time.
    There are votes that are taking place. Senator Voinovich 
will be chairing this meeting as soon as I have a brief opening 
statement. We are going to go ahead and start a couple of 
minutes early because of that, besides that, I think everyone 
is here anyway.

 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. JAMES M. INHOFE, U.S. SENATOR FROM 
                     THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA

    First of all, let me just say, Senator Voinovich requested 
this full committee hearing to examine the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration Strategy and I will be turning the chair over to 
him as soon as I finish my opening remarks.
    While I appreciate the work that went into the crafting of 
the Strategy and understand the importance of the Great Lakes 
to the region and the Nation, I have some concerns about the 
administration of programs in the region as well as the budget 
impacts of the Strategy's funding recommendations. As noted by 
the Strategy and GAO, there is not enough data or monitoring on 
the Great Lakes.
    I commend the Coalition that drafted the Strategy for 
acknowledging the data problems and for recommending several 
approach for addressing them. However, the Strategy does not 
outline a priority system for when the various recommendations, 
including those to address the lack of data, should be 
implemented. This is a critical piece that is missing.
    The Strategy calls for an infusion of nearly $20 billion 
over the next 5 years. In most cases the Strategy does not 
identify the source of funds but much of it appears to be 
designated as Federal dollars. In its report to the President, 
the Great Lakes Interagency Task Force noted that in fiscal 
year 2004, the Federal Government alone spent over $523.9 
million on Great Lakes Basin restoration projects and over the 
course of the next 10 years, anticipates spending $5 billion. 
We need to take a very close look at the 200 programs currently 
operating in the area and the $523.9 million we are currently 
providing to the region.
    Is there overlap and redundancy? Can some of the funds be 
used to meet higher priority goals within the Strategy? These 
are questions that must be answered before we can consider 
adding to the Federal contribution.
    Included in the $20 billion request is $7.5 billion in 
Federal grants to assist the Great Lakes States with meeting 
their water infrastructure needs. However, I must question how 
we can provide $7.5 billion per year to the Great Lakes Basin 
in grants, when we cannot even fund the National Clean Water 
Loan Program at $1 billion per year.
    The lack of data and the lack of funding are nationwide 
problems and are not limited to just the Great Lakes Basin. 
Therefore, any effort to address them must be part of a 
nationwide approach that will assist all communities, not just 
those in the Basin. Particularly in these times of limited 
Federal resources, we must look at the requests for these 
regional priorities in the context of their current funding and 
the funding available for similar problems throughout the 
Nation. We must also ensure that money is being spent wisely 
and efficiently.
    Senator Jeffords, I would recognize you for a brief opening 
statement, and at this point, I will turn the chairing of this 
committee over to Senator Voinovich.
    [The prepared statement of Senator Inhofe follows:]
       Statement of Hon. James M. Inhofe, U.S. Senator from the 
                           State of Oklahoma
    Today we have a very distinguished group of witnesses to discuss a 
topic of great importance to many members of this committee, how to 
restore the Great Lakes. My colleague Senator Voinovich requested this 
full committee hearing to examine the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration Strategy and I will be turning the Chair over to him 
after I conclude my opening remarks.
    The Great Lakes Strategy outlines goals and milestones that must be 
achieved in order to fully restore the Great Lakes. It is a 
collaboration of Federal, State and local stakeholders who have all 
come together behind these goals. They are to be commended for this 
effort. While I appreciate the work that went into the crafting of the 
Strategy and understand the importance of the Great Lakes to the region 
and the Nation, I have some concerns about the administration of 
programs in the region as well as the budget impacts of the Strategy's 
funding recommendations.
    In 2003, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a 
report that identified several concerns with the restoration effort in 
the Great Lakes. The GAO found that there are 148 Federal and 51 State 
programs funding environmental restoration in the Great Lakes basin 
with 33 Great Lakes-specific programs. While the EPA administers most 
of the Federal dollars, the GAO found that there was not one 
organization in charge of coordinating the overall effort. According to 
GAO, the EPA's Great Lakes Program Office had been charged with 
coordinating the restoration effort in the 1987 amendments to the Clean 
Water Act but had not done so. The GAO also cited the need for one 
decisionmaking body to prioritize funding and restoration projects.
    In 2004 the President signed an Executive order establishing the 
Great Lakes Interagency Task Force. The Task Force was charged with 
coordinating the Federal agencies with a presence in the Basin. The 
Executive order also established a Working Group that will determine 
how to implement the recommendations of the Task Force. The EPA's Great 
Lakes program office will report to both the Task Force and the Working 
Group. However, as noted in a September 2004 GAO report, ``both the 
Great Lakes National Program Office and the newly created interagency 
task force have coordination roles raising uncertainty as to how 
leadership and coordination efforts will be exercised in the future.''
    Further, as noted by the Strategy and GAO, there is not enough data 
or monitoring on the Great Lakes. According to the Strategy report 
``Unfortunately, ecosystem monitoring, observation, research, indicator 
development and modeling efforts in the Great Lakes region are 
currently under-funded, lack comprehensive ecosystem approaches and 
exist only as piecemeal programs.''
    I commend the coalition that drafted the Strategy for acknowledging 
the data problems and for recommending several approaches for 
addressing them. However, the strategy does not outline a priority 
system for when the various recommendations, including those to address 
the lack of data, should be implemented. This is a critical piece that 
is missing.
    The Strategy calls for an infusion of nearly $20 billion for the 
next 5 years. In most cases the Strategy does not identify the source 
of the funds but much of it appears to be designated as Federal 
dollars. In its report to the President, the Great Lakes Interagency 
Task Force noted that in fiscal year 2004, the Federal Government alone 
spent over $523.9 million on Great Lakes Basin restoration projects and 
over the course of the next 10 years, anticipates spending $5 billion. 
We need to take a very close look at the 200 programs currently 
operating in the area and the $523.9 million we are currently providing 
to the region. Is there overlap and redundancy? Can some of the funds 
be used to meet a higher priority goal within the Strategy? These are 
questions that must be answered before we can consider adding to the 
Federal contribution.
    Included in the $20 billion request is $7.5 billion in Federal 
grants to assist the Great Lakes States with meeting their water 
infrastructure needs. This is in addition to the Strategy's call for 
full funding the Clean Water SRF at $1.35 billion and the Drinking 
Water SRF at $1 billion. I agree that the SRF needs to be fully funded 
because it meets a nationwide need. However, we must heed the advice of 
the Interagency Task Force when it stated that restoration goals should 
``focus on what can be accomplished within current projections.'' While 
I disagree with the Administration's proposed cut to the clean water 
SRF, I must question how we can provide $1.5 billion per year to the 
Great Lakes basin in grants when we cannot even fund the national clean 
water loan program at $1 billion per year.
    The lack of data and the lack of funding are nationwide problems 
and are not limited to just the Great Lakes Basin. Therefore any effort 
to address them must be part of a nationwide approach that will assist 
all communities, not just those in the Basin. We simply cannot provide 
funds to these States while ignoring the needs of other States, 
including my State of Oklahoma which itself has pressing water quality 
needs but lacks a national program office at the EPA.
    I understand the significance of the Great Lakes to our Nation and 
in particular to the people who live within the Basin. There is a 
limited Federal role in the restoration of this and other watersheds. 
Particularly in these times of limited Federal resources, we must look 
at requests for these regional priorities in the context of their 
current funding and the funding available for similar problems 
throughout the Nation. We must also ensure the money is being spent 
wisely and efficiently. While much progress has been made in just the 
past few years in terms of the oversight of the Great Lakes programs, 
much more is needed before we can add to the Federal contribution of 
over one half a billion dollars per year.
    My colleague, Senator Voinovich, will chair the remainder of the 
hearing.

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. JAMES M. JEFFORDS, U.S. SENATOR FROM 
                      THE STATE OF VERMONT

    Senator Jeffords. Good morning. I know we are all pressed 
for time, so I will make a few quick remarks and submit my full 
statement for the record.
    We know that water quality problems do not respect State or 
national boundaries. No program knows this better than the 
Great Lakes. As you will see on this map, Lake Champlain has 
two hydrologic connections with the Great Lakes ecosystem. The 
first is along the Canadian border through the St. Lawrence 
into Lake Ontario. The second is along the southern part of the 
lake where it connects to the Great Lakes through the canal 
system.
    These lakes are all part of the same ecosystem, and face 
many of the same problems. We do not want to make large 
investments in the Great Lakes or Lake Champlain only to find 
that a failure to comprehensively address a particular issue 
limited our success.
    We know that water quality problems do not respect State or 
national boundaries. No program knows this better than the 
Great Lakes. I urge the witnesses here today and the members of 
the committee to keep Lake Champlain, the eastern end of the 
Great Lakes ecosystem, in mind as we move forward.
    As we move forward on Great Lakes restoration, we must 
incorporate Lake Champlain into the process. Mr. Chairman, I 
want to take a minute to identify something else these two 
ecosystems have in common: they are both starved for money. In 
the face of huge documented needs, this Administration proposed 
this year to cut Clean Water funding by almost 50 percent from 
what annual the appropriations were when President Bush took 
office. We cannot resolve the problems in the Great Lakes and 
Lake Champlain by ignoring them. We must turn the corner on 
clean water funding.
    Before closing, I am pleased to welcome Mr. Bill Howland, 
the director of the Lake Champlain Basin Program, who will be 
testifying on our last panel today. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    [The prepared statement of Senator Jeffords follows:]

      Statement of Hon. James M. Jeffords, U.S. Senator from the 
                            State of Vermont
    Good morning. The Great Lakes are the Nation's largest fresh water 
reservoir. This is a resource we need to protect.
    As you will see on this map of Vermont and New York, Lake Champlain 
has two hydrologic connections with the Great Lakes ecosystem. The 
first is along the Canadian border through the St. Lawrence into Lake 
Ontario. The second is along the southern part of the lake where it 
connects to the Great Lakes through the canal system.
    These lakes are all part of the same ecosystem, and face many of 
the same problems. For example, there are 48 invasive aquatic species 
in the Lake Champlain Basin, and 13 of them have come from the Great 
Lakes. It is imperative that we enact legislation to comprehensively 
address invasive species this Congress.
    As we move forward on Great Lakes restoration, we must incorporate 
Lake Champlain into the process. We do not want to make large 
investments in the Great Lakes or Lake Champlain, only to find that a 
failure to comprehensively address a particular issue limited our 
success.
    We know that water quality problems do not respect State or 
national boundaries. No program knows this better than the Great Lakes. 
I urge the witnesses here today and the members of the committee to 
keep Lake Champlain, the eastern end of the Great Lakes ecosystem, in 
mind as we move forward.
    Mr. Chairman, I want to take a minute to identify something else 
these two ecosystems have in common: They are both starved for money. 
In the face of EPA's own study showing a spending shortfall of $270 
billion for water infrastructure needs, this Administration continues 
to cut spending. This year's proposed budget would cut the Clean Water 
State Revolving Fund by almost 50 percent from what annual 
appropriations were when President Bush took office.
    At our committee's hearing on the EPA budget, I said that this 
budget is like an ostrich sticking its head in the sand. We cannot 
resolve the problems in the Great Lakes and Lake Champlain by ignoring 
them. We must turn the corner on clean water funding.
    Before closing, I am pleased to welcome Mr. Bill Howland, the 
director of the Lake Champlain Basin Program, who will be testifying on 
our last panel today. Bill's experience leading efforts to restore Lake 
Champlain is unmatched, and I look forward to hearing his thoughts on 
the Great Lakes strategy and the role of Lake Champlain.

  OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, U.S. SENATOR 
                     FROM THE STATE OF OHIO

    Senator Voinovich [presiding]. Thank you, Senator Jeffords.
    I would like to publicly thank Senator Inhofe for allowing 
us to hold this hearing and for bringing Great Lakes 
restoration to the full committee's attention. I welcome all of 
our witnesses who have taken time out of their very busy 
schedules. I also want to thank the Great Lakes Commission and 
the Northeast-Midwest Institute for including this hearing on 
the agenda for their annual Great Lakes Day. We are hoping to 
see more of you every year on this day. It is one way we can 
all monitor our progress on this special project that we all 
care so much about.
    As has been pointed out, we have a challenging morning, 
four stacked votes at 10:30. So we are going to move along as 
quickly as we possibly can. I am going to limit my statement to 
a couple of minutes.
    I want everyone to know that the members' and witnesses' 
statements will be inserted in the record so we can ask that 
everyone limit their time as much as possible. So here are a 
couple of points that I am going to make.
    First of all, I think that Chairman Inhofe kind of put 
things into perspective as to where we are in terms of 
finances. I think Senator Jeffords did the same thing. My 
concern is that the domestic side of this budget is getting 
clobbered and there are many things that we ought to be doing 
that we are not doing. I think we have to face up to the fact 
that we may be penny-wise and pound-foolish. There are things 
that we are just neglecting. I think Senator Jeffords is aware, 
he talked about the Safe Drinking Water Revolving Loan Fund and 
the Clean Water Revolving Loan Fund and so many other things 
that need to be taken care of that are not being addressed. I 
think that is the big picture issue that all of you ought to be 
concerned about as we move forward.
    Restoration of the Great Lakes, what I call the Second 
Battle of Lake Erie, has been a long time commitment for me. 
This is my 40th year in fighting that battle. We have made 
great progress. But you all know that more needs to be done. 
Shared by eight U.S. States and one Canadian Province, the 
Great Lakes watershed is the largest system of surface fresh 
water in the world. Let me repeat that: it is the largest 
surface fresh water system in the world.
    I have held two hearings, including an EPW field hearing in 
Cleveland on the issue, and a 2003 report by GAO pointed out 
the two main barriers to our restoration: lack of coordination 
and no strategy. Lack of coordination and no strategy. I 
lobbied President Bush for his leadership on this issue and he 
signed an Executive order that created the Great Lakes 
Interagency Task Force to bring together 10 agencies and over 
140 Great Lakes Federal programs, and to call for a regional 
collaboration of national significance. I think the President 
should be given credit for issuing this Executive order, and I 
would be remiss if I did not mention Steve Johnson's 
predecessor, who just did an outstanding job in putting this 
program together. We are very, very grateful to him.
    Over the past year, 1,500 people worked in eight issue-
specific teams to develop the strategy that we are focusing on 
today. This collaborative work is showcased in our long and 
illustrious list of witnesses and I thank them for being here.
    I am interested in two key points as we move forward. 
First, we need to examine the management of what is the biggest 
restoration project in the world. Real important. I think that 
Senator Jeffords is familiar with the work that we did with the 
restoration of the Everglades. That has not gone as well as a 
lot of folks would like it to, and I want to make sure that we 
don't make some of the mistakes that they have made with what 
we are doing.
    Second, we need to do better and get a bigger bang for our 
dollars. One of the things that we hope would happen, when you 
get all these agencies together and 140 programs, that they 
would figure out how, they would understand they had a 
symbiotic relationship and figure out how they can get more for 
the money that is now being provided.
    A lot of great work has been done. We must continue to work 
together if we are going to truly implement the restoration 
strategy. I look forward to hearing from the witnesses.
    [The prepared statement of Senator Voinovich follows:]

 Statement of Hon. Senator George V. Voinovich, U.S. Senator from the 
                             State of Ohio
    Mr. Chairman, thank you for agreeing to bring restoration of the 
Great Lakes to the full committee's attention. It has been a lifelong 
commitment for me.
    It is a great pleasure to hold this hearing and continue what I 
call the ``Second Battle of Lake Erie'' to reclaim and restore Ohio's 
Great Lake. I made a commitment to this fight nearly four decades ago 
as a State legislator and have continued it throughout my career. 
Considering that Lake Erie was once known as an international symbol of 
pollution and environmental degradation, it is remarkable the progress 
that has been made to clean it up.
    The improvement of the Great Lakes is a testament to the dedication 
of numerous officials and groups in the region that have focused on 
this resource but our work is not done. This effort has not gained the 
attention nationally or internationally that it deserves and needs.
    Shared by eight U.S. States and one Canadian province, the Great 
Lakes watershed is the largest system of surface freshwater in the 
world. They support a wide array of wildlife and provide over 40 
million people in the United States and Canada with drinking water, 
recreation, and much more. Approximately 60 percent of U.S. 
manufacturing is contained within the Great Lakes region. The 
commercial and sport fishing industry alone contributes over $4 billion 
annually to the Nation's economy.
    A prime example of a regional issue that gained national 
significance is the Florida Everglades. As Chairman of the Subcommittee 
on Transportation and Infrastructure, I had the distinct pleasure of 
working on the Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Plan. I learned 
from this experience that restoration requires that stakeholders have a 
symbiotic relationship. The Everglades plan became a reality only after 
everyone came together and made it a national ecological restoration 
project.
    A 2003 report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) clearly 
pointed out that this had yet to occur for the Great Lakes. Two main 
barriers to Great Lakes restoration were identified: lack of 
coordination and no strategy. I held two hearings on how to address 
these issues, including a field hearing by this committee in Cleveland 
in August 2003.
    These hearings convinced me that leadership was desperately needed. 
I personally lobbied President Bush and he responded. In May 2004, he 
signed an Executive order officially recognizing the Great Lakes as a 
national treasure and addressing the problems identified by GAO. The 
Order created the Great Lakes Interagency Task Force with EPA as the 
chair to bring together 10 agencies and over 140 Great Lakes Federal 
programs. Additionally, it called for the Federal Government to partner 
with State, local, tribal, and other interests in the region to 
establish a ``regional collaboration of national significance.''
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration met in Chicago in December 
2004 and returned only 1 year later to release a strategy to restore 
and protect the Great Lakes. Our long and illustrious list of witnesses 
testifying today is representative of the over 1,500 people who worked 
in eight issue-specific strategy teams ranging from aquatic invasive 
species to toxic pollutants.
    I welcome all of our witnesses who have taken time out of their 
very busy schedules to be with us. I also thank the Great Lakes 
Commission and the Northeast-Midwest Institute for including this 
hearing on the agenda for their annual ``Great Lakes Day.''
    While I am interested to hear how the Collaboration's strategy will 
guide future restoration activities, I am particularly interested in 
two key points as we move forward. First, we need to examine the 
management of what is the biggest restoration project in the world. Who 
is the ``orchestra leader''? How do we best coordinate an eight State, 
binational effort? Second, we must consider fiscal realities. What do 
we need to do in terms of new and existing programs at the 
international, Federal, State, and local levels to get the biggest bang 
for our buck?
    The Great Lakes are near and dear to my heart. I consider my battle 
to preserve and protect Lake Erie and all of the Great Lakes to be 
among the most significant of my career and of my life. A lot of great 
work has been done, and we must continue to work together if we are 
going to truly implement the restoration strategy. The decisions that 
we make today will determine the longevity of this national treasure 
that is so important to public health, the environment, our economy, 
and our children and grandchildren.
    Again, thank you Chairman Inhofe for allowing me to hold this 
hearing. Thank you also to all of our witnesses. I look forward to 
hearing from you.

    Senator Voinovich. We are pleased today to have my senior 
Senator, Senator DeWine. I always tell everyone he is the 
senior Senator and I am the senior citizen Senator. Of course, 
Senator Levin, who is the co-chair of the Great Lakes Task 
Force, with Senator DeWine and Senator Stabenow. We appreciate 
your being here today. We all realize we have a lot to do, and 
I would appreciate if you could, just summarize your statements 
for us this morning and we will certainly include them in the 
record.
    Thank you for being here. We will start with Senator 
DeWine.

 STATEMENT OF HON. MIKE DeWINE, U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF 
                              OHIO

    Senator DeWine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I really 
appreciate the opportunity to be here this morning and really, 
it is good to see such a strong showing of Great Lakes support, 
not only on the panel but in the audience.
    We know the Great Lakes are a unique natural resource that 
need to be protected for future generations. They hold one-
fifth of the world's surface fresh water and cover more than 
94,000 square miles. Over 100 species in the basin are globally 
rare or found only in the Great Lakes Basin. Six hundred 
thirty-seven State parks in the region accommodate more than 
250 million visitors each year. The Great Lakes are significant 
to the States and Canadian provinces that border them, as well 
as the millions of other people around the country who fish in 
the Lakes, visit the parks surrounding the Lakes, or use 
product that are affordably shipped to them via the Lakes.
    Unfortunately, the Great Lakes remain in a degraded State. 
The 2005 report from a group of scientific experts says that 
historical threats are combining with new ones. The result is 
that the Lakes are at a tipping point. We need to act now.
    We cannot see the threats to the Lakes just by looking at 
them. Zebra mussels, aquatic invasive species cause $500 
million per year in damages to the Great Lakes. One study found 
that since 1990, Lake Michigan's yellow perch population has 
decreased by about 80 percent. In May 2004, more than 10 
billion gallons, 10 billion gallons of raw sewage and 
stormwater were dumped into the Great Lakes. In that same year, 
over 1,800 beaches in the Great Lakes were closed, 1,800. Each 
summer, Lake Erie develops a 6,300 square mile dead zone. More 
than half the Great Lakes region's original wetlands have been 
lost along with 60 percent of the forests.
    Because of these threats, and with encouragement from those 
of us in the Great Lakes region, the President issued an 
Executive order in 2004 calling for a Great Lakes regional 
collaboration of national significance. This process brought 
together experts who adopted a set of recommendations for 
Federal, State, tribal and local actions. Using those 
recommendations, Senator Levin and I, as well as our colleagues 
in the House, will introduce a bill to implement those 
recommendations.
    Our bill will do several things. One, it would reduce the 
threat of non-native species invading the Lakes through ballast 
water. The bill targets the Asian carp and would authorize the 
Corps of Engineers to improve the dispersal barrier project and 
prohibit the importation of interstate commerce of live Asian 
carp.
    Two, it would address threats to fish and wildlife habitat 
by reauthorizing the Great Lakes Fish and Wildlife Restoration 
Act at $20 million, a program that provides grants to States 
and tribes. Three, the bill would reauthorize the State 
revolving loan fund and provide $20 billion over 5 years to 
assist communities with improving their wastewater 
infrastructure.
    Further, it would authorize $150 million per year for 
contaminated sediment cleanup under the Great Lakes Legacy 
program and provide EPA with greater flexibility in 
implementing the program. The bill will also establish a new 
grant program to phaseout mercury in products. It would improve 
existing research programs and fill the gap where work is 
needed.
    Finally, the bill would establish the Great Lakes 
Interagency Task Force and the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration Process to coordinate and improve Great Lakes 
programs.
    Mr. Chairman, Senator Jeffords, today's hearing is a 
perfect opportunity to bring attention to one of our Nation's 
natural treasures and the resources needed to keep the Great 
Lakes protected for future generations. Through the work of the 
Great Lakes Task Force and the efforts of other members like 
you in holding these hearings, we have been able to make 
positive changes on the Lakes. Unfortunately, we all know that 
more work is needed.
    I hope this committee is able to move legislation that will 
help protect and restore the Great Lakes, because the Lakes 
need attention and they need action now.
    I thank the Chair.
    [The prepared statement of Senator DeWine follows:]

   Statement of Hon. Mike DeWine, U.S. Senator from the State of Ohio
    Good morning. I appreciate the opportunity to be here this morning. 
It's good to see such a strong showing of Great Lakes supporters.
    The Great Lakes are a unique natural resource that need to be 
protected for future generations. They hold one-fifth of the world's 
surface freshwater, and cover more than 94,000 square miles. Over 100 
species in the Basin are globally rare or found only in the Great Lakes 
Basin. The 637 State parks in the region accommodate more than 250 
million visitors each year. The Great Lakes are significant to the 
States and Canadian provinces that border them as well as to the 
millions of other people around the country who fish in the lakes, 
visit the parks surrounding the lakes, or use products that are 
affordably shipped to them via the Lakes.
    Unfortunately, the Great Lakes remain in a degraded state. A 2005 
report from a group of scientific experts says that historical threats 
are combining with new ones, and the result is that the Lakes are at a 
tipping point. We need to act now.
    You cannot see the threats to the Lakes just by looking at them. 
Zebra mussels--an aquatic invasive species--cause $500 million per year 
in damages in the Great Lakes. One study found that since 1990, Lake 
Michigan's yellow perch population has decreased by about 80 percent! 
In May 2004, more than 10 billion gallons of raw sewage and stormwater 
were dumped into the Great Lakes. In that same year, over 1,850 beaches 
in the Great Lakes were closed. Each summer, Lake Erie develops a 6,300 
square mile dead zone. And, more than half of the Great Lakes region's 
original wetlands have been lost, along with 60 percent of the forests.
    Because of these threats and with encouragement from those of us in 
the Great Lakes region, the President issued an Executive order in 
2004, calling for a Great Lakes Regional Collaboration of National 
Significance. This process brought together experts who adopted a set 
of recommendations for Federal, State, tribal, and local actions. Using 
those recommendations, Senator Carl Levin and I, as well as our 
colleagues in the House, will introduce a bill to implement those 
recommendations:
    Our bill would do several things:
    <bullet> It would reduce the threat of non-native species invading 
the Lakes through ballast water. The bill targets the Asian carp and 
would authorize the Corps of Engineers to improve the dispersal barrier 
project and prohibit the importation or interstate commerce of live 
Asian carp.
    <bullet> It would address threats to fish and wildlife habitat by 
reauthorizing the Great Lakes Fish & Wildlife Restoration Act at $20 
million, a program that provides grants to States and tribes.
    <bullet> The bill would reauthorize the State Revolving Loan Fund 
and provide $20 billion over 5 years to assist communities with 
improving their wastewater infrastructure.
    <bullet> It would authorize $150 million per year for contaminated 
sediment cleanup under the Great Lakes Legacy program and provide the 
EPA with greater flexibility in implementing the program
    <bullet> The bill would establish a new grant program to phase-out 
mercury in products, and it would improve existing research programs 
and fill the gap where work is needed.
    <bullet> Finally, the bill would establish the Great Lakes 
Interagency Task Force and the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration 
process to coordinate and improve Great Lakes programs.
    Mr. Chairman, today's hearing is a perfect opportunity to bring 
attention to one of our Nation's natural treasures and the resources 
that needed to keep the Great Lakes protected for future generations. 
Through the work of the Great Lakes Task Force and the efforts of other 
members, like you, in holding these hearings, we have been able to make 
positive changes on the Lakes. Unfortunately, more work is needed. I 
hope that this committee is able to move legislation that will help 
protect and restore the Great Lakes because the Lakes need attention 
and action now. Thank you.

    Senator Voinovich. Thank you, Senator DeWine.
    Senator Levin.

 STATEMENT OF HON. CARL LEVIN, U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF 
                            MICHIGAN

    Senator Levin. Mr. Chairman, Senator Jeffords, thank you 
first of all for holding this hearing and I would of course 
welcome putting the entire statement into the record, and I 
will cut it short, in response to the Chairman's request.
    While some of the environmental protections that were put 
in place, have been put in place, have helped the Great Lakes 
make strides toward recovery, the 2003 GAO report makes it 
clear that there is much work still to be done. The report says 
that ``Despite early success in improving conditions in the 
Great Lakes Basin, significant environmental challenges remain, 
including increased threats from invasive species and cleanup 
of areas contaminated with toxic substances that pose human 
health threats.''
    Plans to address these well documented problems have been 
in place, the problems are well known. The region has invested 
in Lake-wide management plans, remedial action plans, the U.S. 
Policy Committee's Great Lakes Strategy 2002. We have a 
strategic vision for our fisheries and we now have the Great 
Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy which was the result of 
the Presidential Executive order.
    I am really delighted that a wide-ranging and highly 
inclusive group has been formed. The Healing Our Water 
Coalition, whose sole purpose is restoring the Great Lakes, is 
great news for the Great Lakes and for the future of our Lakes.
    I am disappointed that the Administration did not include 
funding in its proposed budget to implement the recommendations 
of the Regional Collaboration Strategy, which was the process 
that the President began with his own 2004 Executive order. The 
Strategy recommends that $20.1 billion be provided over 5 
years, of which $10.5 billion would be new Federal funding. 
That funding, as the Strategy points out, is needed in the 
Great Lakes now to address so many things.
    The plans are plentiful. There is no shortage of plans. The 
data is available. There is no shortage of data. It is the 
funding which is inadequate. That is what we all are committed 
to try to provide, despite the challenges which we face, 
challenges which have been eloquently and accurately outlined 
by you, Mr. Chairman.
    When you compare the funding, by the way, between the 
Everglades and the Great Lakes, the Great Lakes receive about 
half of what the Everglades receive in Federal funding. So it 
is not only the first time that the so-called regional funding 
is provided in our budget, federally and necessarily so, may I 
add. I think Senator Jeffords' point is also important, 
however, that we make sure that we have a comprehensive 
approach to the waters of the Great Lakes, as he outlined.
    Finally, Senator DeWine has described the effort which we 
made last year in introducing the Great Lakes Environmental 
Restoration Act. He has described also the bill which we are 
introducing with our House colleagues. It is a Restoration bill 
which is comprehensive, it is based on recommendations from the 
Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy, and I will leave 
the bill summary for my statement rather than to repeat what 
Senator DeWine has said.
    The Great Lakes, Mr. Chairman, are a unique treasure for 
the world. You can see the Great Lakes from the moon. I must 
say, a little bit chauvinistically that what is outlined by the 
Great Lakes is one particular State which is a competitor of 
the Chairman's State, at least in football and basketball. Also 
my good colleague, Senator DeWine's State. So I won't say that 
it is Michigan that is outlined, I will leave that for my 
statement as well.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Levin. We have an obligation as stewards of the 
Great Lakes. It is an ethical obligation. It is a fiduciary 
obligation. I thank our Chairman and all those who work to 
carry out this responsibility.
    [The prepared statement of Senator Levin follows:]

 Statement of Hon. Carl Levin, U.S. Senator from the State of Michigan
    Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member. I want to thank you 
for the opportunity to testify this morning on the state of Great Lakes 
environmental restoration.
    The Great Lakes are vital not only to Michigan but to the Nation. 
Roughly one-tenth of the U.S. population lives in the Great Lakes basin 
and depends daily on the lakes. The Great Lakes provide drinking water 
to 33 million people. They provide the Great Lakes States' largest 
recreational resource. They form the largest body of freshwater in the 
world, containing roughly 18 percent of the world's freshwater. Only 
the polar ice caps contain more fresh water. They are critical for our 
economy by helping move natural resources to the factory and to move 
products to market.
    Yet the Great Lakes are not being protected as they should be.
    Those of us who have lived near the Great Lakes have seen many 
changes over the years. We have seen water levels rise and fall, water 
quality improve and decline, and fish populations grow and fall. Some 
of these changes are part of a natural cycle, but many are the direct 
result of our management policies.
    While the environmental protections that were put in place in the 
early 1970's have helped the Lakes make strides toward recovery, a 2003 
GAO report made clear that there is much work still to do. That report 
stated: ``Despite early success in improving conditions in the Great 
Lakes Basin, significant environmental challenges remain, including 
increased threats from invasive species and cleanup of areas 
contaminated with toxic substances that pose human health threats.''
    The Great Lakes problems have been well-known for several years. 
The region has invested in Lakewide Management Plans; Remedial Action 
Plans; the U.S. Policy Committee's A Great Lakes Strategy 2002; we have 
a strategic vision for our fisheries; and now we have the Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration strategy which was the result of a Presidential 
Executive Order.
    I am delighted that a wide-ranging, very inclusive group has been 
formed--the Healing Our Waters Coalition whose whole purpose is 
restoring the Great Lakes.
    So I am very disappointed that the President did not include 
funding in the proposed budget to implement the recommendations of the 
Regional Collaboration strategy, the process that the President started 
with his 2004 Executive order. The strategy recommendations totaled 
$20.1 billion over 5 years of which $10.5 billion would be new Federal 
funding. That funding, as the strategy pointed out, is needed in the 
Great Lakes now to address so many things.
    When you compare the funding between the Everglades and the Great 
Lakes, the Great Lakes receive about half of what the Everglades 
receive in Federal funding.
    Invasive species are one of the largest threats to the Great Lakes. 
A new species is introduced into the Great Lakes about every 8 months. 
They enter the lakes in ballast tanks, on boat trailers, and through 
the Chicago Ship and Sanitary Canal. We need ballast technology on 
ships entering the Great Lakes and programs to address other pathways 
of introduction. Legislation is sitting before Congress that would 
reduce this threat and make a significant impact on the Great Lakes and 
all of our waters, but we have failed to act for 4 years.
    Last year, Senator DeWine and I introduced the Great Lakes 
Environmental Restoration Act to take the strong and swift action that 
is necessary. Our bill would increase available funding for the lakes, 
improve coordination of Federal programs, and establish a monitoring 
program to help us make decisions on how to steer future restoration 
efforts.
    Today, we join some of our House colleagues in releasing an outline 
for a new Restoration bill, based on the recommendations from the Great 
Lakes Regional Collaboration strategy. This bill would reduce the 
threat of new invasive species by enacting comprehensive invasive 
species legislation and put ballast technology on board ships; it 
specifically targets Asian carp by authorizing the operation and 
maintenance of the dispersal barrier. The bill would restore fish and 
wildlife habitat by reauthorizing the Great Lakes Fish and Wildlife 
Restoration Act. It would provide additional resources to States and 
cities for their water infrastructure. It would provide additional 
funding for contaminated sediment cleanup and provides the EPA with 
additional tools under the Great Lakes Legacy Act to move projects 
along faster. The bill would create a new grant program to phase-out 
mercury in products. It would authorize additional research through 
existing Federal establishments as well as our non-Federal research 
institutions. And it would authorize coordination of Federal programs.
    Mr. Chairman, the Great Lakes are a unique American treasure. If 
you were to stand on the moon, you could see the Great Lakes and 
recognize the outline of Michigan bounded by the lakes. We must 
recognize that we are only their temporary stewards.
    If Congress does not act to keep pace with the needs of the lakes, 
the current problems will continue to build, and we may start to undo 
some of the good work that has already been done. We must be good 
stewards by ensuring that the Federal Government meets its ongoing 
obligation to protect and restore the Great Lakes.
    Thank you.

    Senator Voinovich. Senator Levin, I just want to make one 
comment, and that is that one of the reasons why the Everglades 
have done so well is because its plight has been brought to so 
many people and it has become a national treasure. I think that 
one of the biggest responsibilities we have is to bring to 
national attention, maybe even world attention, this treasure 
that we have. We need to restore and preserve it. I think the 
better job that we do with that, the more likely it is that we 
are going to get the kind of revenues that we need to get the 
job done.
    Senator Levin. Thank you.
    Senator Voinovich. Senator Stabenow.

STATEMENT OF HON. DEBBIE STABENOW, U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE 
                          OF MICHIGAN

    Senator Stabenow. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Senator 
Jeffords. It is always a pleasure to be here with my colleague 
and friend from Michigan, Senator Levin and Senator DeWine, and 
thank them for their leadership.
    I also want to thank the four people who have come to be a 
part of the testimony today from Michigan, who traveled here to 
be with us today. We very much appreciate their leadership. We 
are so proud of the efforts going on with the healing of our 
waters and the Wage Foundation, all those who were involved in 
pulling together a fantastic coalition.
    I will simply say in echoing my colleagues and reinforcing 
what they have said and putting my longer testimony in the 
record, that we all know that the Great Lakes are more than 
just 20 percent of the world's fresh water. For us in Michigan, 
it is part of our identity. We love the Great Lakes. It is 
about tourism, the economy, our way of life. It is about fresh 
drinking water.
    As we all know, we have a passion for protecting the Great 
Lakes. I was very proud in 2001 to author the first successful 
ban on oil and gas drilling in the Great Lakes, which was a 2-
year ban. I thank the Chairman again for his leadership in 
extending that, and for all that we have been able to do 
together.
    Right now what we are focused on through the Great Lakes 
Task Force, as we all know, is the implementation of the 
regional collaboration strategy. I would simply echo the fact 
that we have had a lot of efforts, a lot of studies, a lot of 
groups come together. It is time to act, as we know. It is 
about the funding, it is about the commitment. It is about 
having a longer term vision that will actually get the job 
done.
    We don't need right now just another group looking at this 
or another study. What we need is a sense of urgency. When we 
look at the data, it is very clear that we need a sense of 
urgency to act right now, to protect the Great Lakes. I 
appreciate the Chairman's leadership,a nd with my colleagues, 
all of us working together to implement this legislation, 
hopefully we will see the kind of commitment coming from the 
Administration and our colleagues in the House and the Senate 
coming together to really, on our watch, get the job done.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    [The prepared statement of Senator Stabenow follows:]

       Statement of Hon. Debbie Stabenow, U.S. Senator from the 
                           State of Michigan
    Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Senator Jeffords. I want to thank 
you for holding this hearing on an issue that is personally very 
important to me--the protection and restoration of our Great Lakes. I 
also want to thank the four witnesses from the great State of Michigan 
who traveled all the way to Washington to be here this morning. And 
finally, I want to thank Senator Levin and Senator DeWine for their 
leadership on our bipartisan Great Lakes Task Force.
    There is no more important issue to Michigan and our region of the 
country than the Great Lakes. For the people of Michigan, the Lakes are 
more than just one-fifth of the world's fresh water and a unique 
ecosystem--they are part of our identity. The Lakes are where we spend 
summers with our families, where we boat and swim, and where we fish 
and hunt. The Lakes also sustain our State and local economies by 
providing a major route for intrastate and international commerce. The 
health and future of Michigan is directly linked to the health and 
future of the Great Lakes.
    We in Michigan are blessed with a beautiful State full of lakes, 
rivers, forests, and streams. I invite you all to come to travel to 
Michigan and see for yourselves.
    The people of Michigan have more public access to waterways than 
all of the other 49 States combined. We enjoy access to four of the 
five Great Lakes and more than 40,000 interior lakes, streams, and 
trails. This rich abundance of natural resources has made the outdoors 
a critical part of Michigan's economy and our way-of-life. The Great 
Lakes are key in this. Consider:
    <bullet> The total revenue from Michigan's fishing, hunting and 
wildlife watching is nearly $5 billion every year.
    <bullet> Fishing brings $2 billion annually to our State economy.
    <bullet> Michigan has the most register boaters of any State 
(nearly one million) and recreational boating brings $2 billion 
annually to the State.
    You can see why restoration of the Great Lakes is so important to 
us.
    So we are extremely proud of the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration 
Strategy, which seeks to coordinate current and future efforts to 
restore and protect this important national resource. There are 
currently between 140 and 200 separate Great Lakes environmental 
programs administered by 10 Federal agencies. Each of these is 
important and has helped us significantly improve the health of the 
Great Lakes over the past 35 years. That said true restoration will 
take local, regional, and national coordination on projects that 
address all of the critical challenges facing the health of the Great 
Lakes. Everything from invasive species and habitat restoration to 
cleaning up contaminated sediments and improving water quality must be 
given equal attention if we are to truly restore the Great Lakes. In 
the next few weeks, Senator Levin, Senator DeWine, and I, along with 
other members of the Great Lakes Task Force, will introduce a bill that 
implements the Regional Collaboration Strategy. I hope that my 
colleagues on this committee will expedite this important legislation. 
In addition, we must have a long-term funding commitment to realize the 
goal of our Restoration bill. Authorization is a critical first step, 
but without follow-through we will not succeed in restoring the Great 
Lakes.
    We take our commitment to the Great Lakes very seriously. At the 
State level we are very busy making sure important protections for the 
Great Lakes are in place. Just 2 weeks ago, Governor Granholm signed 
legislation that for the first time protects Michigan waters from 
large-scale water diversion and withdrawals. The bipartisan 
comprehensive water legacy legislation is the result of 2 years of work 
by a group of lawmakers, environmental groups, industry, and 
agriculture advocates.
    I know that the members of this committee understand the importance 
of the Great Lakes to Michigan, the seven other Great Lakes States, and 
to the Nation. I look forward to working with you on the Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration Implementation bill to secure the future 
protection and restoration of natural treasure. Thank you.

    Senator Voinovich. Thank you, Senator Stabenow.
    I am pleased that Senator Clinton has joined us, and I 
understand you have a short statement that you would like to 
make, Senator.

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, U.S. SENATOR 
                   FROM THE STATE OF NEW YORK

    Senator Clinton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for 
your leadership in this issue.
    I just want to add my voice to those who care deeply about 
the Great Lakes. I grew up on one of the Great Lakes, I 
represent New York, where approximately 80 percent of New 
York's fresh surface water, over 700 miles of shore line and 40 
percent of New York's lands in over 25 counties are containing 
the drainage basins of Lake Ontario, Lake Erie and the St. 
Lawrence River. This is a very important part of our natural 
heritage.
    It also is an important part of our economy. In a 2001 
study, it was estimated that expenditures in New York on 
freshwater fishing are approximately $1.9 billion. So I invite 
you all to come fishing on the Great Lakes, but also as a 
indication of why it is important that we deal with this from 
an economic perspective as well.
    I look forward to working with Senators DeWine, Levin and 
Stabenow in introducing legislation that would implement the 
recommendations of the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration. 
These are very important recommendations. I don't want them 
sitting on a shelf somewhere in a beautifully bound book. I 
want them implemented. The only way we can do that is through 
collaboration, but with Federal leadership.
    Certainly, the plan calls for a set of actions over 5 years 
that would cost approximately $20 billion. We need to get on 
with it, because the longer we wait, the more the damage will 
intensify. It will be even more expensive. These Great Lakes 
are an absolutely essential part of our entire country's 
freshwater system, to say nothing of the stewardship that we 
should be expected to exercise over the natural beauty of 
creation.
    So Mr. Chairman, I would ask unanimous consent to submit my 
entire statement, but I want to thank you again for your 
leadership.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you, Senator Clinton.
    Our first witness this morning is Steve Johnson. Steve is 
the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. As I 
mentioned previously, Steve, I want to publicly thank again 
Mike Leavitt for taking on this responsibility. I honestly 
believe Mike spent more time on this initiative than he did 
anything else at the EPA. I am really pleased that you seem to 
get the importance of the Great Lakes, not only to those of us 
from that part of the country, but also its national 
significance.
    We are glad to have you here and we look forward to your 
testimony.

   STATEMENT OF HON. STEPHEN L. JOHNSON, ADMINISTRATOR, U.S. 
                ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY

    Mr. Johnson. Thank you very much and good morning, Mr. 
Chairman, Senator Jeffords and members of the Senate 
Environment and Public Works Committee.
    On behalf of President Bush and my fellow members of the 
Federal Interagency Task Force, I am pleased to have the 
opportunity to be here on Great Lakes Day. Senator Voinovich, I 
would especially like to acknowledge your leadership in 
supporting the restoration and protection of the Great Lakes.
    By establishing the Federal Task Force and calling for the 
Great Lakes Regional Collaboration, President Bush recognized 
the importance of the Great Lakes and their vitality, not just 
to the region, but to the entire country. The unique nature of 
these majestic lakes and the role and the cultural, economic 
and environmental well-being of our Nation requires us all to 
come together for their defense.
    In order to deliver more efficient and effective Federal 
support, the Great Lakes Interagency Task Force was created, 
created to streamline and better coordinate the more than 140 
Federal programs that protect and restore the Great Lakes. The 
importance of such coordination was highlighted in the Task 
Force October 2005 report, which estimated that the Federal 
Government spends approximately a half a billion dollars each 
year on Great Lakes water quality improvement programs. So far, 
much of the work has been focused on addressing high priority 
issues requiring interagency cooperation. The Task Force has 
identified 48 near-term actions to help speed restoration and 
protection.
    The Task Force is improving coordination and integration 
among relevant Federal programs in the Great Lakes, and is 
developing a plan to address all components of the Executive 
order. The collaborative effort envisioned in the Great Lakes 
Executive order became a reality with the formation of the 
Great Lakes Regional Collaboration in December 2004. Federal 
agencies joined with the Great Lakes Governors, mayors, tribes 
and members of the congressional delegation where they worked 
together to develop a set of recommendations for restoring and 
protecting the Great Lakes. I appreciate the members who are 
joining us today.
    After receiving extensive public comment, the Collaboration 
released its final strategy last December. This strategy serves 
as a blueprint for prioritizing future action, which will help 
guide our partners' actions to protect and restore the Great 
Lakes. President Bush remains strongly committed to the future 
of the Great Lakes. In his fiscal year 2007 budget request for 
EPA, President Bush requested over $70 million to clean and 
protect the Lakes.
    This includes $50 million for the Great Lakes Legacy Act 
programs, which is an increase of about $21 million over last 
year's enacted budget, demonstrating a true commitment to 
preserving this natural wonder. This represents essentially 
full funding of the authorized level in the Great Lakes Legacy 
Act for cleanup of contaminated sediments in areas of concern. 
The budget request contains important funding for other 
agencies' work on the Great Lakes as well.
    Once again, thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the 
committee, for inviting me to participate in this hearing. I 
look forward to continuing to work with you and all our 
Collaboration partners to accelerate the pace of environmental 
progress in the Great Lakes. Thank you and I would be happy to 
answer any questions you may have now.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Because we don't 
have the time that I would like to have today, because of the 
votes, I am going to ask you a couple of questions for the 
record and I am going to ask you some for this hearing.
    The first one for the record is, you stated the 
Administration is implementing 48 near-term actions in 2006 to 
help speed restoration and protection of the Great Lakes. I am 
going to insert into the record a letter sent to the President 
from the Governors and mayors proposing near-term action items. 
For the record, can you please detail for each item whether you 
are implementing it and if not, then why not. So we want to 
know that. Be pretty specific about what we need to do, what 
are you implementing and what aren't you implementing, and if 
you're not implementing why you are not implementing.
    Second, you mentioned the Asian carp barriers. We worked 
hard last Congress to provide funding and are now hearing about 
more problems. Senator Jeffords and I know about those 
barriers, don't we, Senator?
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Voinovich. For just a few dollars, we had to work 
several months to get the money.
    We put language into WRDA, and I am going to insert into 
the record a letter that Senator Obama and I sent with over 40 
members of the House and Senate. We want you to please provide 
us for the record a detailed update on the project and what the 
Administration is doing about it. That should be a lay-up shot 
and it is not getting done.
    For the record, third, you detailed funding in the 
President's budget for Great Lakes programs. While you 
mentioned increases, the President's budget decreases in other 
key areas, such as the Great Lakes National Program Office, the 
Great Lakes Fishery Commission. I would like you to provide for 
the record a cross-cutting budget analysis on the increases and 
decreases for all the Federal programs that impact the Great 
Lakes.
    For the hearing today, I am interested in the management of 
this effort. We have held two hearings that focused on that GAO 
report that pointed out two barriers to restoration, lack of 
coordination and no strategy. The big deal was no orchestra 
leader to get the job done.
    The Interagency Task Force brought together 10 agencies and 
140 Federal programs. EPA is the chair, but you have a lot of 
other responsibilities. This also involves eight States, 
Canada, cities, tribes and others. I would like to know how are 
we, who is going to be the orchestra leader? I hope it is not 
Region V, and have them take this on as a responsibility as was 
once envisioned. I think if you really look at the time Mike 
Leavitt spent on this, I think you understand how much work 
this is going to be. Could you share with us just exactly how 
you intend to get this job done and give us that orchestra 
leader?
    Mr. Johnson. Well, Mr. Chairman, I am the orchestra leader 
of the Federal Interagency Task Force, and I am proud to serve 
in that role. I think it is an important role, and I will 
continue to serve to make sure that the over 140 Federal 
programs are coordinated and we actually focus our attention on 
those critical actions that have been identified.
    I think you may be aware, but we have newly approved the 
Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy Implementation 
Framework, which in essence says what we have decided to do as 
a collaboration is to continue and to maintain our current 
organization of the executive committee, some of which are here 
today, to make sure that we have this team of people in place 
to help direct these efforts to make sure that the strategy 
that we have all worked so hard to put together is actually 
implemented.
    As part of the direction of not only maintaining this 
current organization structure of the executive committee but 
also focusing on making sure that we are directing the 
activities, that we are promoting accountability, that we are 
actually demonstrating the results to all citizens, 
particularly the citizens of the Great Lakes.
    Senator Voinovich. I am putting you on notice that we are 
going to have a hearing in 3 months on how you are handling 
this from a management point of view. Because I have to tell 
you, you have a lot of other responsibilities. I don't think 
you can expend the extraordinary time that Mike Leavitt spent 
on this. I would like to know we have some hotshot over there 
that gets up early in the morning and goes to bed late at night 
worrying about getting this job done.
    So the last thing, and I will leave that for the record, 
too, is just that my hope was that as these agencies got 
together and you looked at the funding streams that were coming 
down the pike, that somehow we could demonstrate that we are 
utilizing those dollars in a much more efficient and effective 
way.
    In other words, everybody is starting to look at what we 
are doing. How can we meld these dollars in order to have a 
greater impact on the challenges facing us? I would like to 
find out if any of that has occurred as a result of these folks 
getting together.
    Senator Jeffords.
    Senator Jeffords. Administrator Johnson, the Great Lakes 
Strategy identifies a funding need for wastewater treatment 
upgrades totaling about $7 billion over 5 years. This 
Administration's proposed budget for this year would cut the 
Clean Water State Revolving Fund by almost 50 percent from what 
annual appropriations were when President Bush took office. Can 
you describe how the EPA can be a serious partner in the Great 
Lakes Restoration when the Agency is totally unable to support 
the wastewater infrastructure needs identified in this 
strategy?
    Mr. Johnson. Senator Jeffords, as you have pointed out, the 
needs for our wastewater treatment systems far exceed EPA's 
$7.3 billion total budget. What the President's 2007 budget 
requests is in light of his commitment to make sure that the 
State Revolving Loan Fund for the Clean Water program revolves 
at approximately $3.5 billion. The President's 2007 budget 
reflects that commitment and again, the needs are great. But as 
part of the President's budget, we are honoring the President's 
commitment to make sure that we establish a Revolving Loan Fund 
of approximately $3.5 billion.
    But you are correct, the needs are great, which is going to 
take more than just funds. It is going to take a number of 
other efforts, which we have launched, including issues of 
water efficiency and issues of using technology, because part 
of the President's 2007 budget was also an additional $7 
million to help a research and development arm to identify 
those new technologies that will help us advance in the 
engineering and technology arena, so that we can help bridge 
that gap. There are other things we can do as well.
    Senator Jeffords. I understand the problems you have. I 
just want to let you know that there is somebody sitting right 
here that is ready to go yelling and screaming for you. I wish 
you luck.
    Senator Voinovich. I would like to point out one other 
thing, that if you are the coordinator, you have these other 
budgets of departments.
    Mr. Johnson. Yes.
    Senator Voinovich. The Army Corps of Engineers, when I was 
chairman of the subcommittee that had them, 5 years ago had a 
backlog of $250 million. Today it is $1\1/4\ billion. So a lot 
of these agencies that are going to be essential to get the job 
done, the budgets just aren't there.
    Senator Carper.
    Senator Carper. I am going to not ask any questions. I want 
to thank Administrator Johnson for being here. We have a lot of 
other witnesses to come and I think we are going to start 
voting any minute. So I will just refrain from asking questions 
and just say thanks.
    Mr. Johnson. Good to see you, sir.
    Senator Voinovich. We are looking forward, I am going to 
leave the record open so that my colleagues can get questions 
over to you and I appreciate your getting them back to us and 
perhaps maybe in the next several weeks you and I can sit down 
and talk about some of the things that I have raised here today 
and other Senators.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you very much for your testimony 
and we look forward to working with you.
    Mr. Johnson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I look forward to it 
as well.
    Senator Voinovich. Because of the cooperation of my 
colleagues today, we are moving along and hopefully we may be 
able to have an opportunity to hear from our third panel, my 
Governor, who is testifying on behalf of the Council of Great 
Lakes Governors and also Frank Ettawageshik, Tribal Chairman of 
the Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians, that are with 
us today.
    Governor Taft, I would like to say thank you for all of 
your efforts in the Great Lakes restoration. I think many 
people are not aware that you have been chairman of the Great 
Lakes Council of Governors for, I think, 4 years. That is heavy 
duty. I had it for 2 years and I was surprised to see that you 
had taken it on for 4. You have done a great job and I am glad 
that you are head of the Department of Natural Resources, Sam 
Speck, on the Great Lakes Charter Annex, which I wondered if it 
ever would get done. You have done a great job of organizing, 
helping on the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration. We are 
really glad to have you here today. If you will start with your 
testimony.

             STATEMENT OF HON. BOB TAFT, GOVERNOR, 
                         STATE OF OHIO

    Governor Taft. Mr. Chairman, first of all, thank you very 
much for your strong leadership on behalf of the Great Lakes. 
The Great Lakes community has reached an amazing milestone: 
1,500 people, representing States, cities, tribes, the Federal 
Government, environmental, business and farm groups have come 
together in an unprecedented effort to create the Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration Strategy, a blueprint for action to 
restore and protect the Great Lakes.
    Now that planning is complete, it is time to act. 
Collaboration members are moving forward on a number of actions 
using our own resources, yet significant policy and funding 
impediments remain. Without your support here in the Congress 
in this critical first year, there is a danger that the plan 
will be for naught and our momentum will be undermined. That 
would be tragic, because the Great Lakes remain threatened by 
emerging environmental threats such as the introduction of a 
new invasive species every 8 months, and by historical 
problems, such as contaminated sediments.
    A lack of sufficient coordination and focus among existing 
programs is also hindering progress. Congress can help by 
tackling problems that must be addressed on a regional or 
national level, such as the control of invasive species, by 
modifying the way funds are directed to the Great Lakes 
priorities to improve coordination, and by appropriating funds 
to address the most pressing environmental needs, as part of 
the current budget.
    Let me address each of these areas in which we seek your 
assistance. Invasive species pose perhaps the greatest threat 
to the Great Lakes in a generation. Therefore we urge you to 
pass the National Aquatic Invasive Species Act. Second, in some 
areas, most notably wetlands restoration, a multiplicity of 
Federal programs with differing requirements complicates 
effective use of resources. In the Great Lakes Environmental 
Restoration Act, Senators Levin and DeWine have identified a 
promising way to direct funds toward priority needs. By funding 
priorities rather than programs, Congress can effectively 
channel the work of Federal, State and local agencies toward 
key objectives.
    We applaud all the bill's sponsors and join their call for 
long-term large scale funding through a reform process. This 
will take time, and therefore we ask that you fund key actions 
in this budget. Specifically, the completion and operation of 
two permanent dispersal barriers in the Chicago Sanitary and 
Ship Canal to keep the Asian carp out of the Great Lakes. It 
will cost $6 million to protect the Great Lakes Fishery, a 
small fraction of its $4 billion economic value.
    Second, support the President's request for the Great Lakes 
Legacy Act to be funded at $49.6 million. In Ohio, we are 
thrilled by the U.S.A. decision to use funds from the Legacy 
Act to clean up contaminated sediments in the Ashtabula River. 
Similar success stories in other Great Lakes can be realized if 
Congress agrees to the President's request.
    Third, provide an additional $50 million to the EPA's 
Brownfield program to clean up abandoned industrial waterfront 
properties in the Great Lakes Basin. The economic return can be 
tremendous. For example, a $3 million Clean Ohio fund grant at 
an abandoned manufacturing site in Sandusky is generating $37 
million in private investment in housing, retail and outdoor 
recreational areas.
    Finally, support the President's commitment to restore 
200,000 acres of wetlands in the Great Lakes Basin by 
appropriate $28.5 million. These first steps will help fulfill 
the moral obligation to preserve the Great Lakes, a national 
treasure, for future generations.
    The Great Lakes are also vital to our economic health. 
Thirty percent of our Nation's gross domestic product, 60 
percent of U.S. manufacturing and shipping and tourism also 
produce significant economic activity. One specific problem 
illustrates the link between environmental restoration and 
economic viability.
    As you know, Mr. Chairman, the Army Corps of Engineers 
annually dredges the Toledo harbor to maintain navigation. The 
corps has been depositing the sediments in the shallow western 
basin, which has been stressing the most productive fishery in 
the entire Great Lakes. We reached agreement with the corps to 
cut back on open lake disposal and eliminate it entirely by 
2012, using the dredged material for a habitat restoration 
project. Ohio will provide the non-Federal match, and together 
we will turn a negative into a positive. This would be a 
striking example of collaborative success.
    However, the agreement is seriously in peril, because the 
feasibility study did not qualify for funds under Section 204 
of the Water Development Appropriations Act in Federal fiscal 
year 2006. The corps needs $1.2 million for this study. I ask 
that you specifically name this project in the 2007 
Appropriations bill.
    The lack of priority funding for this study parallels the 
lack of funds allocated to the dispersal barriers that I 
mentioned a few moments ago. Projects like these are key in our 
attempts to protect and improve the Great Lakes, require a 
small investment relative to the damage they promise to 
prevent, and need to be given serious consideration at the 
Federal level.
    This matter is made more urgent by the fact that across 
Lake Erie, an average of 4 years of disposal capacity remains 
for navigation channel dredging. This looming crisis will force 
us to choose between dredging to support shipping and open lake 
dumping to the detriment of the Lake and its fishing and 
boating industries.
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration is needed to address 
emerging problems such as this, to oversee implementation of 
its Strategy and to continue its collaborative work on behalf 
of Great Lakes restoration. We would welcome congressional 
action to codify both the collaboration and the Federal 
Interagency Task Force.
    Our members are actively working to identify areas in which 
all levels of government can coordinate efforts toward clearly 
defined goals. While I have spoken today of how Congress can 
help, be assured that the Great Lakes States and other 
stakeholders remain committed to doing our share to protect and 
preserve our greatest natural resource.
    I am pleased that not only Director Speck is with me today, 
but also Director Joe Koncelik of the Ohio Environmental 
Protection Agency. We will be prepared to respond to whatever 
questions you all may have. Thank you.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you, Governor Taft. I really 
appreciate your testimony today, and I can assure you that some 
of the issues that you have brought before us are being worked 
on. I am personally involved in some of them. I understand how 
important it is that we move on them.
    But it also underscores again the fact that the resources 
that we need to get the job done are not available. You were 
not here earlier, but we're concentrating all our attention in 
terms of working harder and smarter and doing more with less 
with the non-defense discretionary budget, which has been 
pretty well flat-funded the last couple of years. I think what 
we are doing is we're being short-sighted in that. It is a 
concern of mine and hopefully more of the members of the Senate 
and Congress will get it.
    Just one example is the levees there in New Orleans. We had 
testimony by the top civil engineers in the country who 
basically said that had the budget been adequate, if they had 
done what they were supposed to do, they felt that those levees 
would have survived those winds. So I think that it is time for 
us to start looking at the big picture and we do have to do 
that. I had to do it when I was Governor, I had to do it as 
Mayor. It is about time that we in Congress did the same thing.
    Thank you.
    Governor Taft. Thank you for your leadership, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Voinovich. Chairman Ettawageshik, we are so happy 
to have you here with us today to give the perspective of your 
tribe and I suspect some of the other tribes that are in the 
Great Lakes area. Thank you for being here today.

   STATEMENT OF FRANK ETTAWAGESHIK, TRIBAL CHAIRMAN, LITTLE 
              TRAVERSE BAY BANDS OF ODAWA INDIANS

    Mr. Ettawageshik. Thank you, Senator. Mr. Chairman and 
members of the committee, boozho, hello. [Greeting in native 
tongue.]
    My name is Noon Day, otherwise known as Frank Ettawageshik. 
I am the tribal chairman of the Waganawksing Odawa. Our tribe 
is from the lower peninsula of Michigan.
    Senator Voinovich. Pardon me, could you get your mic a 
little bit closer?
    Mr. Ettawageshik. It is known also as the Little Traverse 
Bay Bands of Odawa Indians.
    I am here today with the humbling task of speaking on 
behalf of many tribes that make up the ad hoc tribal caucus of 
the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration. I am also here as a 
member of the executive committee for the collaboration. I 
would like to acknowledge several of the tribal leaders that 
are in the audience with us today as well. It is quite an honor 
for me and quite a responsibility to speak for so many people 
and so many different tribes. They put faith and trust in me to 
speak to the important role that tribal nations play in the 
Collaboration and how the Collaboration's strategy can be 
implemented in a way that not only will achieve its ultimate 
goal of protecting and restoring the Great Lakes ecosystems but 
also in a way that is faithful to the U.S. treaty obligations 
and trust responsibilities to tribal nations.
    We have submitted a written statement, and I realize that 
we are short on time.
    But I have several points that I would like to make in this 
oral statement. Mr. Chairman, when considering matters of great 
importance, our tribal elders teach us that we must think 
beyond the current generation to the seventh generation. We are 
also taught that each of us living today is someone's seventh 
generation. As we carefully consider our actions and the 
actions of our governments, we must continually ask ourselves, 
what are we leaving for a future seventh generation?
    We understand that the whole earth is an interconnected 
ecosystem. The health of any one part affects the health and 
well-being of the whole. We are taught that it is our spiritual 
and cultural responsibility to protect our local lands and 
water, in order to help protect the whole of mother earth.
    We all often think of the Great Lakes as so large that they 
would be difficult to damage. But consider this image: from 
30,000 feet, when you are flying west over Lake Michigan, there 
is a point when you can't see either shore and you are looking 
at this vast expanse of water. If you look down, you see one of 
those 1,000-foot freighters, and it looks about this big. If 
you take that 1,000-foot freighter and you were to stand it on 
its end in the deepest part of that lake, over 200 feet of it 
would be sticking up out of the water. The vastness of the Lake 
takes on a whole new, more fragile perspective when you think 
of it in this manner.
    In the mid-1800s, in the Great Lakes States, we had a 
resource that was considered inexhaustible. Yet it lasted for 
barely two generations. This was our white pine forests. The 
white pine of the current century is our water. The work of the 
Collaboration has identified issues and suggested solutions. 
All of these proposals will require appropriations over many 
years. Numbers of dollars have been brought up here and were 
brought up in our plan. We really worked hard to bring those 
numbers down to a realistic number. Yet that number, with the 
budget concerns that there are today, that number seems very 
large indeed.
    Tribal governments also allocate funds from our tribal 
enterprises to do this work of preserving and protecting the 
environment. We also utilize funding from the Bureau of Indian 
Affairs, EPA and many other Government agencies to accomplish 
our work. But the task is immense. The neglect and poor choices 
made by individuals and governments over the last century have 
compounded upon each other until no one government or people 
alone can accomplish the restoration and preservation without 
the help of the others.
    We must all work together. We must do this now. The lack of 
adequate actions today will cause us much harm and additional 
costs in the coming years. Our grandchildren are waiting for 
our actions. Their grandchildren deserve to inherit an 
environment at least as healthy and clean as the one that our 
grandparents grew up within.
    Thank you.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you, Chairman. That was an 
eloquent statement, the seventh generation. I think all of us, 
particularly at the stage I'm at in my life, worry about the 
legacy for my children and for my grandchildren. I have been 
fighting the Battle of Lake Erie, the second battle, for 40 
years. I happen to live where in a half a minute, I can be at 
the edge of the Lake. It is a great treasure. We should treat 
it as a great treasure. Thank you very much.
    I have to go and vote. So Governor Taft, I know you are 
busy. What I will do, if you don't mind, I am going to submit 
my questions to you for the record.
    I guess the biggest question I have is, your thoughts on 
how you organize this thing on a national level to make sure it 
gets the attention that it needs. I asked that same question to 
Steve Johnson and he came back with, he is going to do it. 
Well, as Governor, you know if it wasn't for Sam Speck and Joe 
Kocelik, your EPA director, you wouldn't be able to get a whole 
bunch of things done.
    So I would really like to have you think, with some of your 
other governmental colleagues, how we can best organize this 
here in Washington to make sure that the job gets done. I want 
to thank both of you for being here. I am going to run out and 
hopefully be back probably in 20, 25 minutes, depending on what 
happens. Thank you.
    Governor Taft. Thanks, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Ettawageshik. Thank you.
    Senator Voinovich. The panel is dismissed and we are going 
into a short--I hope--recess.
    [Recess.]
    Senator Voinovich. The good news is we are resuming this 
hearing. The bad news is that the votes aren't finished. So I 
am going to try to see if I can't give our witnesses the chance 
to get their testimony before I have to run back and vote 
again. I think we should have, everything being equal, about 25 
minutes. So I thank you all for being here. I thank you for 
your patience.
    If you could, to the best of your ability, and I know it's 
tough, because I know you have these words you have worked on, 
I have been here, and then we say, well, you have 5 minutes or 
4 minutes. So without further words, we have David Ullrich, who 
is the director of the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities 
Initiatives, who is testifying for Mayor Daley, since he is 
sick. Please give the Mayor our regards and tell him how much I 
appreciate him. I was going to brag all about him, about all 
the leadership he's exercised with the mayors.
    So we will start out with you, Mr. Ullrich.

STATEMENT OF DAVID ULLRICH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, GREAT LAKES AND 
                 ST. LAWRENCE CITIES INITIATIVE

    Mr. Ullrich. Thank you very much, Chairman Voinovich. I 
greatly appreciate your having this hearing. Senator Obama, 
thank you so much for being here, and we appreciate all of the 
attention to the Great Lakes.
    My name is David Ullrich. I am executive director of the 
Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative. It is a 
coalition of 48 U.S. cities and 37 Canadian cities, located 
along the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence. I am representing Mayor 
Richard M. Daley of Chicago, who could not be here today 
because of illness. He is the chair of the Great Lakes and St. 
Lawrence Cities Initiative. His written testimony has been 
submitted for the record and I will present his remarks today 
on his behalf.
    I want to point out up front that attached to the Mayor's 
testimony is a letter from Mayor David Miller of Toronto, with 
whom the Mayor works very closely, who is vice chair of our 
Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative. He has 
indicated in that letter his support for Mayor Daley's 
testimony.
    In 2004, the President issued an Executive order that 
formed the Federal Interagency Task Force and the Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration. I would like to thank the 
Administration for their leadership in this regard. This was 
followed by a series of meetings that drew more than 1,500 
people from 8 States and dozens of cities. They represented all 
levels of government, tribal members, the private sector and 
the non-profit community.
    Those meetings resulted in a consensus on Great Lakes 
actions and investments for years to come. For the first time, 
we are all on the same page and a long-term strategy that will 
require large scale investment from all levels of government 
and stakeholders. Local governments are committed to doing 
their part for Great Lakes restoration.
    The cities represented on our board of directors each spend 
an annual average of over $200 million for needs related to the 
Great Lakes, including drinking water, wastewater 
infrastructure, stormwater management, parks, open space, 
pollution prevention, shoreline protection. Great Lakes mayors 
are implementing innovative changes in water policy and 
sustainable building practices, stepping up efforts to conserve 
water, protecting our shorelines from erosion and passing 
ordinances to stop invasive species.
    In Chicago, the Daley administration is ensuring that new 
city buildings are certified as green buildings and using 
incentives to encourage developers and citizens to conserve 
water and use stormwater as a resource. The city of Chicago is 
also building a stormwater tunnel that will collect clean 
rainwater from the roof of McCormick Place and return it to 
Lake Michigan instead of dumping it into the sewer system. The 
tunnel will keep approximately 60 million gallons of water out 
of the storm sewer system every years and conserve water and 
reduce sewer overflows during large storms.
    Racine, WI is doing some of the most innovative work in the 
country on reducing beach contamination. Erie, PA and 
Rochester, NY have made great strides in reducing sewer 
overflows. Gary, IN is transforming 21 miles of contaminated 
industrial property along the Lake Michigan shoreline into 
publicly accessible park land. Cleveland, a city I know you're 
very familiar with, Senator, recently approved a lakefront plan 
to reconnect the city with Lake Erie.
    Long-term protection of the Great Lakes will require a 
commitment at all levels. Of course, the Federal Government is 
no exception.
    As a result of the regional collaboration process, the 
Great Lakes community has asked the Administration to support 
$300 million in new funding for programs that address a range 
of high priority issues. Local and State Governments would 
invest approximately $140 million in matching funds.
    I would like to highlight several of these near term 
actions that are of critical importance. The Army Corps of 
Engineers must be authorized to build and operate two invasive 
species barriers in the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal, along 
with a $6 million appropriation to carry out this work. This is 
a fraction of the cost of the devastation the Asian carp could 
cause the Great Lakes.
    We need comprehensive legislation to stop the next invasive 
species from coming into the Great Lakes and other important 
waterways. Invasive species legislation has lingered far too 
long. U.S. EPA's Brownfield program should be increased by $50 
million and the funds should be targeted to shoreline 
communities around the country. We must fully fund the Clean 
Water State Revolving Loan Program, which helps cities repair 
aging water infrastructure. We also support the President's 
requests for full funding of the Great Lakes Legacy Act, and we 
ask you to support the President's commitment on 200,000 acres 
of wetlands and $28.5 million to be appropriated.
    Legislation is being introduced----
    Senator Voinovich. Mr. Ullrich, your time's just about up.
    Mr. Ullrich. OK, very good. I will wrap up.
    Again, we greatly appreciate, and speaking for Mayor Daley, 
I know he would have far preferred to be here. Local government 
very much wants to be part of the solution. We sense the 
urgency and importance of this and are prepared to work with 
you, the States, the tribes, our Canadian neighbors to bring 
about what we all want in the Great Lakes.
    Thank you very much, Senator.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you for being here.
    Mr. Kuper, who is president of the Council of Great Lakes 
Industries. We are very happy to have you here today.

STATEMENT OF GEORGE H. KUPER, PRESIDENT, COUNCIL OF GREAT LAKES 
                           INDUSTRIES

    Mr. Kuper. Industry, via the Council of Great Lakes 
Industries, welcomes the opportunity to be here, Mr. Chairman. 
Thank you very much. We want to express our support for 
additional and better coordinated Federal resources to restore 
our Great Lakes ecosystem.
    We are also pleased to have been included in the 
collaboration process, the process that developed the 
restoration strategy that we are here to discuss. The resulting 
consensus around our Basin's needs is truly remarkable. 
However, we really believe the whole collaboration effort 
missed a huge opportunity by not focusing more directly on the 
specific elements necessary for sustainable development in the 
Basin.
    So when it comes time to discuss specific aspects of the 
restoration strategy, we as industry do have more to say.
    But in the meantime, the Nation as a whole needs to 
understand how important the health of the Great Lakes 
ecosystem is to our national well-being. Industrial managers 
are accustomed to making arguments for why their project or 
their plant or company is deserving of somebody's investment. 
Our region's leadership understands this, too.
    But translating the need for Federal investment in regional 
ecosystem restoration is not something we've yet done very 
well. That situation is in spite of the remarkable contribution 
our region makes to the Nation's well-being, critical to both 
our national economic well-being and to our national defense 
capability. Our region provides one-third of the gross State 
product in the country from eight States, with less than a 
quarter of the U.S. population. In other words, our region 
carries more of its own weight, considerably more.
    Sixty percent of the Nation's manufacturing is located in 
our region. That manufacturing base, along with the region's 
ecosystem, needs help. The region needs direct investment in 
ecosystem protecting infrastructure as called for by the 
restoration strategy.
    I also need to make a plug. The region also needs national 
policy to support the transition from industry-supported health 
care and retirement burdens, which sit disproportionately on 
the region, and indeed, make us less competitive.
    It is clear the region needs infrastructure to support the 
growth of our population and our continued industrial activity, 
while protecting our treasured natural resources. We have 
identified much of what has to be done and we do believe the 
restoration strategy will have a positive economic development 
impact on the region.
    We are currently organizing an economic analysis jointly 
with the Healing Our Waters Coalition in order to identify and 
quantify these positive economic impacts. We hope to be able to 
report back to you on the specifics of the spinoff economic 
development impacts you can anticipate from funding key 
elements of the restoration strategy.
    As I said, when it gets time to fund the specific actions 
identified in the restoration strategy, industry has more 
thoughts. I have outlined some of those in my written 
submission. For instance, with coastal health, we believe that 
sewage treatment capacity in the Basin needs to be expanded and 
improvements funded.
    For toxic pollutants, because of the substantial reductions 
made already, it is now critically important to consider the 
magnitude and relative importance of the remaining levels of 
these materials from a risk management and a risk assessment 
perspective, to ensure that resources are directed to 
reductions that will have meaningful outcomes.
    But the restoration strategy is not just about the 
specifics of what needs to be done. It is also about how we 
organize and govern those activities. We must make the most 
efficient use of public dollars to meet restoration and 
strategy objectives.
    Over the last dozen years, I have been privileged to 
witness a transition in the way stakeholders engage in 
ecosystem issues in the Great Lakes Basin. The consensus 
represented by the restoration strategy is but one example of a 
growing willingness to work together to achieve great ends.
    Industry in the region, where many companies are in a fight 
for their continued existence, is pleased to be part of this 
process and support many of the initial recommendations of the 
restoration strategy.
    Thank you.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Buchsbaum.

   STATEMENT OF ANDY BUCHSBAUM, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL WILDLIFE 
   FEDERATION'S GREAT LAKES OFFICE AND CO-CHAIR, HEALING OUR 
                  WATERS-GREAT LAKES COALITION

    Mr. Buchsbaum. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My name is Andy 
Buchsbaum. I am the co-chair of the Healing Our Waters 
Coalition and also the director of the Great Lakes Office of 
the National Wildlife Federation.
    The Healing Our Waters Coalition is a broad-based group of 
85 organizations, including a dozen national, many local and 
State conservation, environmental and even government 
organizations and zoos and aquaria. We are dedicated to the 
protection and restoration of the Great Lakes and to the 
process, really, that you started with your hearings several 
years ago.
    We thank you for your leadership, for the committee's 
leadership and for your championing of Great Lakes causes now 
for as long as you have been in public office. You are a true 
champion of the Lakes and we thank you for that.
    You have heard from Senator Stabenow and others about the 
importance of the Great Lakes to the people in the region. In 
fact, a Joyce Foundation report, a study, a poll came out and 
said that 96 percent of the people in the Great Lakes region 
believe that Great Lakes protection and restoration are 
important. Ninety-six percent. You can't get 96 percent to 
agree what day of the week it is, and they agreed on that.
    In my written testimony I go into more detail about my 
family background. Let me just emphasize here that the families 
in the Great Lakes, the millions of families in the Great 
Lakes, share memories, they share experiences that make the 
Great Lakes a way of life. You have heard also today, you have 
heard from several of the Senators and from Mr. Kuper about the 
importance of the Great Lakes to the Nation.
    I just want to emphasize that that importance is reflected 
not only by those here, but those across the country. We have 
in the written testimony, there are quotations, quotes, support 
from representatives from coastal Louisiana, from the 
Chesapeake Bay, from Puget Sound. We will be submitting also, 
we have support also from the Everglades, of course, but they 
didn't get it in time for my testimony. But you will see that, 
we will submit that later.
    We are very pleased to be partnering with the Council of 
Great Lakes Industries to look at the real hard numbers, 
economic numbers of what ecological restoration will mean for 
the Great Lakes economy.
    But I want to return to something that Senator DeWine 
talked about right at the beginning, when he talked about 
scientists in the region coming to a consensus that the Great 
Lakes were at a tipping point. This is a major change in the 
context of Great Lakes policy and restoration. Up until now, we 
thought, it's taken decades for us to get to this point in the 
Great Lakes, what's so urgent? It might be important, but 
what's so urgent about taking action?
    This report identifies the urgencies, and it's alarming, 
it's shocking. It says that the Great Lakes ecosystem has 
experienced what they call ecosystem breakdown. They say the 
immune system is damaged. So what happens is that there is a 
cascading effect, a change reaction of degradation that occurs. 
These are not my words. These are the scientists' words. Their 
paper is in my written testimony as Appendix B.
    They reached this conclusion because of some well-known 
problems, such as the growing dead zone in Lake Erie, but also 
because of similar problems they are seeing in Saginaw Bay, 
Lake Huron and also in Green Bay in Lake Michigan. There are 
some problems that aren't so well know, such as really the 
impending crash, the crash that's really already occurred, of 
the Great Lakes food web. Huge crash which is also in my 
written testimony, and as a chart, Appendix C, it graphically 
demonstrates that.
    In fact, the scientists have said in the last 5 to 15 
years, they have seen ``the rapidness of this process is unique 
in Great Lakes recorded history.'' So we can't wait, we have to 
act now.
    There is a common sense solution. If the immune system is 
damaged, you restore the immune system and you make sure that 
new insults don't come in. That's what the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration has done. It has provided a blueprint for wise 
investment.
    You have heard about the precedent setting nature of the 
way those recommendations are made, and you have heard about 
the precedent setting nature of the recommendations. They 
follow the scientists' recommendations. That's not surprising, 
because the scientists were on those panels.
    What they do is, they do three basic things. They attempt 
to fix and streamline existing programs, they authorize new 
programs where they are needed and they provide substantially 
new funding. All three are necessary to fix the Great Lakes.
    Several quick highlights: wetlands and buffer strips are 
critical, because they provide the buffering capacity for the 
Great Lakes. That's essential in the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration Strategy. That repairs the immune system.
    Stopping untreated sewage from dumping, a major Federal 
investment, but again, it's a new insult we have to do without. 
Probably the biggest problem identified by the scientists is 
the onslaught of invasive species, on average, one every 8 
months. Unless we can stop those, the system can never recover.
    There's plenty for you all to do. We encourage you to take 
up Senators Dewine's and Levin's legislation when it comes up, 
to make the funding priorities happen. I will be happy to 
answer questions.
    I just want to leave you with one final thought, which is, 
which you said, Senator, at the beginning, penny-wise and 
pound-foolish, this is an investment we need to make. There is 
a return on investment. The longer we wait, the worse it will 
get. Thank you.
    Senator Voinovich. I agree. Thank you.
    Ms. Katz.

 STATEMENT OF DIANE KATZ, DIRECTOR OF SCIENCE, ENVIRONMENT AND 
    TECHNOLOGY POLICY, THE MACKINAC CENTER FOR PUBLIC POLICY

    Ms. Katz. Good morning, Mr. Chairman. My name is Diane 
Katz, and I am director of Science, Environment and Technology 
Policy for the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
    The Mackinac Center is a Michigan-based, non-partisan 
research and educational institute that assists law makers, the 
media and the public in evaluating policy options. We greatly 
appreciate the opportunity to join this discussion of the Great 
Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy.
    Before you is an ambitious strategy intended to restore the 
Great Lakes ecosystem. The architects of this strategy claim 
that we have failed to protect our beloved Lakes. The 
shortcomings of the current approach, however, stem not from 
any lack of regulation or resources, as the strategy report 
contends. On the contrary, the problem is the excess of well-
intended but ill-conceived programs that fall under disjointed 
regulatory agencies at the international, Federal, State, 
provincial and local levels.
    Unfortunately, the problem will not be remedied by the 
Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy, which prescribes 
more unwieldy and inefficient regulation. As the report states, 
the Strategy was developed through an inclusive process aimed 
at achieving the broadest consensus possible. That means the 
Strategy is more a product of the political process than the 
scientific method, just like the existing regime.
    Numerous restoration strategies for the Lakes have been 
hatched over the years. Most, if not all, have advocated an 
expansion of the regulatory State. But we will achieve better 
results only by applying the most basic truths of good 
governance, that incentives are more powerful than punishment, 
that sound science yields better results than rhetoric, and 
most importantly, that citizens are far better stewards of 
their property than the State will ever be.
    There is no definitive accounting of the billions of 
dollars allocated for Great Lakes programs. That in itself says 
a great deal about the status quo. There is also no 
comprehensive accounting of the numerous Great Lakes programs 
initiated over the past three decades. To fill this information 
gap, the Mackinac Center has undertaken a census of Great Lakes 
programs that so far has identified more than 200 Government 
initiatives. Many lack measurable goals, and there is little of 
the coordination necessary to maximize environmental 
improvements.
    Rationalizing these myriad programs was the principal tasks 
of the eight strategy teams that crafted the restoration plan. 
What has materialized instead is a regulatory wish list that is 
sweeping in scope but limited in scientific and economic 
rationale. Hopefully the executive committee will pursue 
meaningful change rather than tinkering at the margins. This 
would entail identifying for elimination dozens of redundant, 
ineffective programs while also advocating for the restoration 
of property rights, common law and impartial risk assessment as 
the foundation of Great Lakes strategy. The Lakes deserve no 
less.
    The Strategy also suffers from an internal inconsistency. 
On the one hand, the report laments the failure of existing 
programs to adequately protect the Great Lakes. On the other 
hand, the Strategy calls for greatly expanding the regulatory 
powers of the very government agencies that the Strategy argues 
have mis-managed the job. It's time to abandon the command and 
control methods that empower the environmental bureaucracy.
    The Strategy is also compromised by its underlying 
supposition that the Great Lakes are teetering on the verge of 
collapse. In fact, water quality has improved dramatically 
during the past three decades in large measure because of more 
efficient technologies. Michigan's 2006 report, Water Quality 
and Pollution Control, states ``The open waters of the Great 
Lakes have good to excellent water quality.'' Contrary to the 
tipping point theory, and it is only a theory, wildlife is 
thriving, with hatchery stocks comprising less than 20 percent 
of the trout population in Lake Superior. Moreover, eagle 
sittings have soared, while analysis of blood and feathers 
document a dramatic decrease in PCP concentrations.
    Missing from the Strategy is any examination of 
Government's role in exacerbating contamination of the Lakes. 
Agricultural subsidies, for example, have long contributed to 
excessive use of pesticides, fungicides and herbicides. The 
infiltration of non-native species is a legitimate concern. But 
a lack of comprehensive data has precluded informed 
decisionmaking on environmental priorities.
    Many Government agencies only collect data on program 
inputs, not outcomes. Similarly, the pesticide information 
grant program measures success only by the rate of inspections 
that result in enforcement action, rather than any actual 
reduction of pesticide runoff.
    The waste of resources is rampant. For example, some 88 
research vessels operate independently in the Great Lakes, 
according to the Great Lakes Association of Science Ships.
    Senator Obama [presiding]. Ms. Katz, I apologize, but we 
are out of time on your initial testimony. You can submit the 
rest of it into the written record.
    Ms. Katz. OK. If I may just provide my recommendations, 
which are just five short sentences.
    Senator Obama. OK. But we're all pressed for time.
    Ms. Katz. I understand.
    Eliminating programs that cannot document environmental 
improvements commensurate with costs. A greater reliance on 
property rights and market based incentives to revive areas of 
concern. Private sector involvement in crafting more effective 
Great Lakes policy. Development of Basin-wide data base of 
ecological conditions, with which to set stewardship priorities 
and determine effective remedies.
    Thank you.
    Senator Obama. Thank you very much, and I apologize, we 
ended up being scheduled for votes, as all of you know. So 
Senator Voinovich and I and Senator Jeffords are going back and 
forth, playing a tag team here, so that none of us miss any 
votes.
    Mr. Howland, you're batting cleanup. Then we will have an 
opportunity for some questions.

STATEMENT OF WILLIAM G. HOWLAND, MANAGER, LAKE CHAMPLAIN BASIN 
                            PROGRAM

    Mr. Howland. Thank you, Senator Obama.
    I appreciate the opportunity to testify. My name is William 
Howland, I am the manager of the Lake Champlain Basin Program. 
I want to talk today about three particular points that focus 
on how intertwined the ecosystems of Lake Champlain and the 
Great Lakes are. Also the environment and economic disaster of 
invasive aquatic nuisance species. Then finally, the importance 
of sharing our management experience in Lake Champlain with 
that of the Great Lakes.
    The Lake Champlain Basin program is a bi-State, 
international partnership to restore water quality and improve 
the economy of the Lake Champlain Basin. Our partnership, now 
in its 15th year, involves the States of Vermont and New York, 
the Province of Quebec, the New England Interstate Water 
Pollution Control Commission and numerous U.S.-Federal 
agencies. The Lake Champlain Basin program partners all work to 
implement a comprehensive management plan called Opportunities 
for Action, which is included, I believe, at every Senator's 
place as an exhibit. It is an evolving plan for the future of 
the Lake Champlain Basin.
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy to restore 
and protect the Great Lakes being considered by this committee 
is a first-rate, comprehensive management plan with many 
similarities to our Opportunities for Action plan for Lake 
Champlain. It identifies the key challenges for the Great Lakes 
and it provides a clear road map for a collaborative 
restoration effort.
    Today, water quality in many near-shore areas of the Great 
Lakes is experiencing terrible problems. It is virtually in a 
free fall in some of the near-shore areas where blue-green 
algae blooms are found, phosphorus and nutrient levels are 
surging and there are the continuing problems of invasive 
species. Present trends are heading toward drinking water that 
is a serious health risk for tens of millions of Americans, 
burgeoning numbers of invasive species and ecosystem 
impairments that will take centuries and untold billions of 
dollars to remedy should they continue on present trends.
    Senate bill 508 provides a multi-State, multi-agency 
collaborative leadership of the sort that has a proven track 
record in Lake Champlain. The Lake Champlain Basin program, 
which was established by Congress in the Special Designation 
Act of 1990 and again authorized in the Daniel Patrick Moynihan 
Great Lakes and Lake Champlain Act of 2002, created our 
Federal, State and local Agency collaboration. S. 508 
establishes a similar collaboration that will generate 
measurable in-the-water results to get this job done.
    The common interests of Lake Champlain and the Great Lakes 
are made especially clear on this map here. Both Lake Champlain 
and Lake Ontario enter into the St. Lawrence River, as you can 
see. Also, the map shows a second water connection where the 
second part of Lake Champlain and the Great Lakes are connected 
by the New York Canal System and the Hudson River. This is an 
extensive canal system, which includes the Hudson River, which 
has been a passageway for aquatic nuisance species into Lake 
Champlain from the Great Lakes.
    Unfortunately, zebra mussels, which are native to Europe, 
were introduced into the Great Lakes by shipping ballast waters 
and they invaded throughout the Great Lakes and then they 
invaded Lake Champlain by way of the Erie Canal, the Hudson 
River and the Champlain Canal. Now they are established 
throughout our Lake.
    Of the 48 invasive aquatic species in the Lake Champlain 
Basin, 13 have entered Lake Champlain from the Great Lakes by 
way of the canals. So we applaud the recognition of this 
problem in the Strategy and the plan to re-examine the canals 
and consider the cost benefit of a barrier. Over the 15 years 
that we have been working at the Lake Champlain Basin program, 
we have issued nearly 600 research and monitoring and plan 
implementation contracts to guide our management. While we are 
only 120 miles long, I believe that our 15-year record of 
research and management is of value to the Great Lakes. My 
point is that we would get a better bang for the buck if we 
share lake management science that both our systems require.
    We do have a memorandum of agreement with the Great Lakes 
Fisheries Commission that does provide for joint work and that 
is a model that we might be able to extend. We have in the Lake 
Champlain Basin reversed the trend of phosphorus loading in a 
number of tributaries. We have found ways to manage the water 
chestnut and we have removed PCB contaminated sediments in one 
large bay of the Lake. So we have some success stories, and we 
need to learn from the Great Lakes as well as to share our 
experience with them.
    I appreciate the opportunity to testify today. The full 
extent of my comments and the two documents, Management Plan 
and the State of Lake Champlain, are included as exhibits. 
Thank you very much, Senator.
    Senator Obama. We will make sure to include all of those 
into the record.
    [The documents are retained in the committee's file.]
    Senator Obama. Normally the freshman has to ask questions 
last, but I have this great opportunity to have the panel to 
myself.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Obama. Let me start with you, Mr. Ullrich. One of 
the questions obviously in the amount of resources that we 
devote to Great Lakes restoration has to do with the degree to 
which this is considered a regional problem or a national 
issue. I'm wondering how your organization, how the Mayor and 
the various groups are thinking about where this ranks in terms 
of priorities, when we look at environmental issues across the 
country?
    Mr. Ullrich. The mayors, and I know Mayor Daley 
particularly and Mayor Miller of Toronto, have obviously put 
this on a very, very high priority level. The Lakes are so 
incredibly important to the quality of life and the economies 
of our cities that it must be extremely high. It's not only a 
national issue, it is clearly an international issue.
    In many respects, I think people are starting to recognize 
that it's a global issue, with 20 percent of the surface fresh 
water in the world, we have an incredible responsibility to 
protect this. Particularly through this recent collaboration, I 
think there is a much better appreciation of the importance of 
integrating Federal, State, local, tribal levels, working with 
the stakeholders and then doing it across on an international 
level, to make sure that this many trillion dollar value 
resource that we have is really protected.
    There are huge threats if we do not act in the very near 
future and have a sense of urgency. What we are going to pay 
down the road is going to be much higher and our grandchildren 
will look at us and say, why didn't you do it and make the 
investments back then?
    So I don't think there is any question but that, in terms 
of Mayor Daley, Mayor Miller and the other mayors, for their 
own local priorities, what they think on a State and regional 
level, on a national level and international level, this must 
be a very, very high priority.
    Senator Obama. Mr. Buchsbaum.
    Mr. Buchsbaum. Thank you, Senator.
    I completely agree with what Mr. Ullrich has said. We don't 
look at the Great Lakes as an environmental issue, just as 
Coastal Louisiana and Everglades really are not environmental 
issues. Mr. Kuper testified before, the Great Lakes drive the 
economic engine of the region as well. The economic engine of 
the region has a major say in the national economy.
    More than that, the people in the Great Lakes Basin think 
of the Great Lakes as a part of their lives, or their way of 
life. They don't look at them as an environmental issue. Their 
ability to fish, to go swimming, to go out on the dunes to 
watch the sunsets is one thing. But the other thing is, they 
define the geography, the incredible geography of the region. 
They are huge. Yet they are fragile.
    So the entire region's prosperity and identity are wrapped 
up here. It's really not an environmental issue and that's what 
makes it both a regional and a national priority.
    Senator Obama. Good.
    Mr. Kuper. When the representative of the National Wildlife 
Federation makes industry's argument better than industry does, 
I think we've accomplished a great deal.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Obama. It's a good sign.
    Mr. Kuper. I just think that we might want to raise the 
level of understanding of what we're about here. Teddy 
Roosevelt, who said, ``The Nation behaves well if it treats 
natural resources as assets, which it must turn over to the 
next generation increased and not impaired in value.'' Pretty 
interesting, in 1910 he was saying this stuff.
    Senator Obama. He was a pretty smart guy.
    Mr. Buchsbaum, I noticed in talking about comprehensive 
invasive species legislation, I know there are some who have 
argued that that's a preferable approach to the ballast water 
discharge control approach. I was wondering if you could just 
elaborate on that just a little bit.
    Mr. Buchsbaum. Sure. Ballast water discharges are probably 
the leading source of invasive species in the Great Lakes. But 
they are only one source. To really address invasives that 
enter the Great Lakes, you can't look at just one vector, which 
is what ballast water is.
    So yes, we have to deal with ballast water discharges, we 
need to make sure that those are addressed. But there are 
invasives that come up through canals, there are invasive 
species that are brought in intentionally as pets or for food 
and other means. Invasives are used in education, baits, 
dumping bait in waters, transport of boats between waterways. 
There are all sorts of avenues and routes for invasive species.
    If we just focus on ballast water, or we just focused on 
our region, we're slowing down the rate of invasive species 
into the Great Lakes, but ultimately we're just putting off the 
problem. We need a comprehensive approach like the National 
Aquatic Invasive Species Act, which I know is before this 
committee. It is just critical. It is not just critical for the 
Great Lakes. I believe that zebra mussels now have spread all 
over the Midwest, through the whole system. I apologize, as a 
citizen of the Great Lakes, they started with us in this 
country. We are the source of invasive species as well as the 
victim.
    But that's the way it is for every waterway, for every 
place. So unless we do it comprehensively, we might delay the 
problem, but we won't solve it.
    Senator Obama. Yes, Mr. Kuper.
    Mr Kuper. I would just like to add, Senator, that the 
Collaboration advances are understanding, from a policy point 
of view, what we have to do and that it points out, there's a 
distinction between new introductions, which comes from the 
salties, and they are going to have to have treatment systems 
for their ballast water, versus the spread of exotic species by 
the lake carriers, which the Collaboration suggests they use 
best management practices. So already there is a better 
understanding as a result of the collaboration process as to 
what kind of policies we need to put in place.
    Senator Obama. Good. I apologize, it turns out that Senator 
Voinovich hasn't quite made it back here yet. I am about to 
miss the last vote that we have to take. He will be back here 
in a second. I am just going to have to recess this just for 
one moment. Ms. Katz, you will be next. Everybody should tell 
the truth when Senator Voinovich returns, that it's her turn.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Obama. So we will be right back. The committee 
stands in recess.
    [Recess.]
    Senator Voinovich [presiding]. We call the committee 
meeting to order. According to my staff person, Ms. Katz, you 
were going to respond to a question from Senator Obama, is that 
correct?
    Ms. Katz. Yes, we were discussing aquatic invasive species 
and ways to address that legitimate problem in the Great Lakes. 
I just wanted to suggest that with respect to AIS and some 
pending legislation, that many of the regulatory goals are 
unscientific, which undercuts the credibility of the proposals 
to deal with them.
    For example, the Strategy calls for preventing all new 
introductions of aquatic invasive species into the Great Lakes, 
as well as the elimination of any or all persistent toxic 
substances to the ecosystem. But non-native species are an 
unavoidable fact of nature. To the extent that we lay out 
unrealistic or unscientific goals, we're not going to be as 
effective as we otherwise would.
    Senator Voinovich. The organization you represent, where is 
it located?
    Ms. Katz. We're located in Michigan.
    Senator Voinovich. Where is it?
    Ms. Katz. It's based in Midland, MI, and we have offices in 
the metro Detroit area and in Lansing.
    Senator Voinovich. Who funds your organization?
    Ms. Katz. A great many individuals, foundations, companies. 
We have a variety of funding sources. We do not take Government 
funds, however.
    Senator Voinovich. You're basically saying that the 
invasive species are a what?
    Ms. Katz. I'm saying there's a legitimate concern with the 
invasive species. I'm just suggesting that we would be more 
effective if we do not attempt to draw this as a bigger problem 
than it is, or to suggest unreachable goals.
    Senator Voinovich. Well, I've been living with it for 40 
years, and I have to tell you something. Invasive species are 
terrorists.
    [Laughter.]
    Ms. Katz. Yes, and I've been living with them for 50 years. 
I agree we need to respond to the problems.
    Senator Voinovich. Zebra mussels and quaga mussels, and you 
get the carp into this Lake and God help us. So there are many 
of us that want these, we're going to try and get this Act 
passed. We are trying to get the Coast Guard to inspect these 
boats and get at their ballast waters where they empty them 
out, then they come in and they say they're all right. But then 
they clean them out in some of the ports and this stuff gets 
into them.
    Ms. Katz. I'm hoping that we do in fact dramatically reduce 
the introductions of invasive species. I'm just suggesting that 
if our goal, if we throw our resources at a goal of eliminating 
them all, then we're going to lack resources to take care of 
other problems as well.
    Senator Voinovich. Well, we need a whole lot more 
resources.
    Is somebody here from the Army Corps of Engineers? OK. 
According to the information I have, the corps budget has been 
riddled, in the budget. We have to get real about some of these 
things. If we don't do something about them, ultimately we're 
going to lose our Lakes.
    So anyhow, Mr. Ullrich, I'd like you to answer questions in 
terms of two key hurdles that you stated: excessive bureaucracy 
and funding delivery. I would also like you to comment about 
how we coordinate with Canada, as you included a letter from 
Toronto, Mayor David Miller. I also want to insert testimony 
from Canada into the record, which we will do.
    [The referenced information referred to may be found on 
pages 133-134 and 216-220.]
    Senator Voinovich. I was really pleased that earlier, I 
don't know if he's here or not, but Senator Grafstein is here 
today, or was here. Jerry and I have been friends for a long 
time. I'm on the Canadian-U.S. Interparliamentary Group. In our 
last meeting, we brought up the issue of the Great Lake and 
what we should do. He's working on a task force there in Canada 
to kind of coordinate all their activities so that maybe down 
the road we can kind of get both groups together.
    As many of you know, I had hoped, and I do hope that the 
President and the new Prime Minister will come together and 
agree that this is going to be the most significant bilateral 
effort in the world, to restore our Great Lakes. I think it 
will require the resources and cooperation of all of us to get 
that job done. I am looking forward to that happening here.
    So I would be interested in your comments, Mr. Ullrich.
    Mr. Ullrich. Certainly, Mr. Chairman. I think you are aware 
how much Mayor Daley does not like bureaucracy, and the 
importance of cutting through it as much as possible. Simply 
stated, we can't have this mix of 140 different programs spread 
out over 10 plus Federal agencies and expect to be able to 
deliver Great Lakes protection in an effective manner.
    I think that this Interagency Task Force is definitely a 
step in the right direction. But as reflected in your exchange 
with Administrator Johnson this morning, it's too big a job, 
when you look at the number of programs and the number of 
agencies involved. It seems somehow or another there's got to 
be a consolidation of those.
    We would suggest a good place to start would be with 
wetlands programs. It's a priority for the President, it's 
critically important to the quality of the Lakes and to the 
wildlife and fish. Frankly, we continue to keep losing wetlands 
across the Basin. I have an unofficial count of somewhere in 
the neighborhood of 35 to 40 different wetlands programs spread 
across the Federal Government.
    But I think that would be a good place to start, and 
looking at this combined issue of programs and bureaucracy, to 
really focus that down and have real accountability measures on 
an annual basis is, are we restoring and increasing as my 
understanding the President wants, and there's money in the 
budget to do some of this, or are we in fact losing them? So I 
think that is critical.
    In terms of the cooperation with Canada, which is 
absolutely essential at every step of the way, and why Mayor 
Daley reached across the Lakes to Mayor Miller and the other 
mayors is that we're neighbors. I don't care if we're hundreds 
of thousands of miles or kilometers apart, we're neighbors, 
because this same water that we have out in front of Chicago 
flows by Toronto, Quebec City, Montreal, out the St. Lawrence 
River.
    So recognition of that up front is critical, and I know 
that the Governors work with the premiers, have done so on the 
annex process recently. There is good cooperation at the 
Federal level with a bi-national executive committee. We really 
need to focus on this new Great Lakes water quality agreement 
in terms of that's the mechanism to really bring people 
together more. The mayors, I think the tribes need to be part 
of this, along with the States and the Federal Government, but 
really focusing and honing in on all of that I think could make 
a big difference. The place to start is with the wetlands 
program.
    Senator Voinovich. OK.
    Senator Jeffords. Mr. Howland, what are your thoughts, 
after hearing the testimony today, on the most effective means 
for Lake Champlain Basin program to collaborate on Great Lakes 
restoration?
    Mr. Howland. Senator, we noted in the Collaboration 
document that about 1,500 stakeholders and partners put the 
consensus effort together, and aquatic nuisance species 
management was the first goal to appear in that document. We 
feel that that was well placed.
    I think that our Lake Champlain experience is that aquatic 
nuisance species invasions, many of them from the Great Lakes, 
have been one of the most severe headaches that we have. I feel 
that our existing collaborative document, a memorandum of 
agreement between the Basin program, Lake Champlain Basin 
program partners, and the Great Lakes Fisheries Commission, 
which we operate under and have for the last period of time, is 
a good model.
    But we would be hopeful that as this management strategy 
takes place and as the Senate bill to authorize a collaborative 
partnership coordinating Great Lakes management takes shape, 
that the Basin program for Lake Champlain could have some 
advisor or observer role, to share our management experience 
with the Great Lakes and to reciprocate. Because it is clear 
that our problems are so similar, we hope that that would be a 
possibility.
    Senator Jeffords. Mr. Ullrich, I noted in your written 
testimony that there are no mayors from the Lake Champlain 
Basin in your group. What are your thoughts on how we can 
increase participation from that region and what the primary 
areas of cooperation might be at such a local level?
    Mr. Ullrich. A place to start would be at our annual 
conference this summer up in Perry Sound, Ontario. I have 
spoken with your good director of the Lake Champlain program, 
we are going to try to get him up there as well. Also, we will 
reach out to the mayors out there. As you know by our name, we 
are Great Lakes and St. Lawrence because of the critical 
integration of those two resources and the extent to which the 
Lake Champlain Basin ties in with the St. Lawrence Basin, we 
open our doors to mayors up there. We have quite a few from 
Quebec. I don't see any reason why we can't open our doors and 
arms up there, and I will work with your director to make sure 
that that happens.
    Senator Jeffords. Mr. Buchsbaum, how do you explain the 
difference between the scientific assessment of the Great Lakes 
with the view presented by Ms. Katz?
    Mr. Buchsbaum. I can't. There are, we've been working in 
the scientific community for decades. Government scientists, 
non-government scientists, academics alike, 60 of the region's 
leading scientists in a very scientifically sound, non-
ideological way were asked, what's wrong with the Great Lakes 
and how do you fix it, and what's the condition of the Great 
Lakes.
    They came up with a report which I actually found shocking. 
I have been working in this region, in this area for a long 
time. I thought things were not good. But as Ms. Katz said, 
water quality is better, there are some indicators that have 
gone up, some of the Government reports are somewhat favorable.
    The scientists say that when you look under the surface, 
you are seeing ecosystem crashes in large swaths of ecosystem. 
They are seeing it, the anoxic zone in Lake Erie, they can't 
explain it. They don't know why it's there. They don't know 
what's going on. They don't know how to fix it. They are seeing 
massive changes in the Lake Erie ecosystem, including botulism 
and bird die-offs and all sorts of things that show that the 
ecosystem is sick.
    In Lake Michigan, they in large, vast stretches of the lake 
bottom, they can't find any freshwater shrimp, diporeia, which 
is the basis, it's 80 percent of the food that fish eat. They 
can't find any in vast stretches. They've gone from 10,000 
organisms per square meter to 5 or 10 or zero in places. Now 
the science is documenting that's happening not only in the 
southern part of Lake Michigan, but throughout Lake Michigan, 
in Lake Huron and Lake Erie and parts of Lake Ontario. So the 
scientists, this information has been well-known to the 
scientific community for the last 5 years, but it's not getting 
out to the public. Now, and certainly it's not getting into 
policymakers.
    So now that we know, that's why the scientists have said, 
I'll quote that again, they said that ``The rapidness of the 
process of change is unique in Great Lakes recorded history.'' 
These are 60 of the leading scientists in the region, from all 
the major universities, Government scientists, Canadian 
scientists, U.S. scientists. So I guess I respectfully simply 
disagree with the assessment of the Mackinac Center on this 
one.
    There will always be questions as to what's to be done. 
There will always be questions as to how bad the problem is or 
what the causes are. There will always be theories. But if we 
wait to take action until every I is dotted and every T is 
crossed, we will be much too late, and we will not have, the 
Great Lakes will not be there.
    Now, let me say one thing about another consensus that's 
emerging. It's about invasive species. Most scientists believe 
that invasive species are probably the worst problem facing the 
Great Lakes. Because you can't bring a system into equilibrium 
when you're getting a new insult, a new invader, to shake up 
the ecology every 8 months. On average, that's what we have.
    So what we're doing now is absolutely not working. That's 
one of the reasons for the fundamental changes that were 
recommended by the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration, and 
that's one of the reasons why we support them so strongly.
    Senator Jeffords. Well, sir, that is reassuring.
    Ms. Katz. Senator, if I may respond.
    Senator Jeffords. Ms. Katz.
    Ms. Katz. I would explain it as a difference in opinion on 
degree as opposed to kind. That is, we have seen throughout the 
last 30 years or so when it has come to environmental issues a 
great range of opinion on the degree of risks that are posed by 
various environmental issues. I would say that there is a 
pretty big chasm sometimes between scientists who are arguing 
for much more Government action, who see a much more elevated 
risk versus those who, while cognizant of changes in the 
environment, may not be viewing them as cataclysmic.
    So I would suggest that for every scientist that Mr. 
Buchsbaum is able to bring to the table, claiming that the 
Great Lakes are about to crash, there could be another 
scientist at the table who would say there have been changes, 
that ecosystems are not static. In fact, these changes may be 
bringing about effects that we don't want to see, but that we 
are not on the verge of environmental doom.
    Senator Jeffords. I want to say thank you, but I'm not sure 
that's the appropriate word. But thank you.
    Senator Voinovich. I will comment that we had hearings on 
the issue of the dead zones in the Lake with some of the best 
scientists, and they can't explain it. That is worrisome. So we 
need to continue to work on that research, to see if we can't 
pinpoint just exactly what the real problem is.
    But I think that, I sure don't want to get into another 
argument in this committee on climate change. We've been 
dealing with that for several years around here. I think we 
know that there are some things that need to be done and we 
need to get on with them.
    Mr. Kuper, I was kind of impressed with the fact that you 
are doing an economic analysis and impact of investments.
    Ms. Katz. Jointly, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Voinovich. Jointly, good. Because I think that 
there are two things that need to be done. One is if we don't 
do it, here's what's going to happen in terms of the economy 
and the fishery and all the other things that are connected 
with it, including, Mr. Kuper, including getting the Army Corps 
of Engineers budget to where it is, because the docks, locks, 
you name it, that's very important to moving transportation. 
We're in deep trouble right there with that situation all over 
the country.
    In fact, many people are worried about whether we're going 
to be able to transport agricultural commodities because of 
what's happened there. We've kind of just closed our eyes to 
it.
    But in addition to that, in terms of getting money from 
Congress, the commitment, it's also good to be able to say, 
``gee, if you do this, it's going to have some positive impact 
on the economy of the area.'' I'd like to commend, maybe the 
two of you, on what you're doing.
    Mr. Buchsbaum. We're looking at, what we would like to do 
is have a researcher--a top-notch researcher, someone with 
national prominence, we have somebody in mind that we're 
negotiating with now--look at several different levels of 
economic impact restoration might have. There's the direct 
impacts, fishing, tourism, things that you would associate with 
the Great Lakes.
    We're also looking at the next level of impact, which would 
be the way that property values might change, the way that 
cities might change the way they do their investments. Then 
there's a final level we're looking at, which is looking at how 
the Great Lakes create a, I hate to say competitive advantage, 
because I don't want to disadvantage other reasons, because 
this is a national effort. What sort of asset does the Great 
Lakes bring to the region that the region's economy can 
essentially market to the rest of the country and the world. Is 
that fair?
    Mr. Kuper. Very clearly done, yes. Our problem right now 
is, though, we're at the stage where we're trying to organize 
funding for this project. It doesn't come for free, it's fairly 
expensive. We also understand that it needs to happen fast. So 
we're working very hard at bringing this to bear.
    Senator Voinovich. I'd like to ask you, as you were talking 
about money, we have the Great Lakes Protection Fund, and I 
know that quite well, because when I was Governor, we fully 
funded Ohio's share of it. There's only seven States that 
participate in it.
    I just wonder whether or not this project that you're 
talking about might qualify for that. States get an annual 
distribution of funds from the fund and then there's a 
competitive process that's in place to do research work. It 
seems to me that this might be some source of revenue to you. 
I'm not sure it fits into the charter of it. But I would think 
that you could well argue that it does.
    Mr. Kuper. With your recommendation, we'll ask them.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Voinovich. I'll get on the phone and call Governor 
Taft right now.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Voinovich. The other thing that we talk about, 
metrics. That's real important to me, because so often we get 
into doing things and then we really don't go back and measure 
what we've accomplished or not accomplished. My last year as 
Governor, actually about a year and a half before, we came up 
with what we called the Lake Erie Water Quality Index.
    What it did was measure where we were in terms of fishery, 
in terms of wetlands and other things that impact on Lake Erie. 
We had been doing all this work over the years and never had 
something that kind of captured where we were. I had hoped that 
the next Administration would maybe 4 years later take another 
snapshot and just see where we are.
    I have long felt that we need that for the Great Lakes. 
I've co-sponsored the Great Lakes Water Quality Indicators and 
Monitoring Act that would create an index to measure water 
quality for all the Great Lakes. I'd like to know, are you 
familiar with it and what would your thoughts be. I'm 
interested, too, Ms. Katz, about your opinion.
    Ms. Katz. Thank you.
    Mr. Kuper. Mr. Chairman, there are a number of people who 
think similarly to you in terms of demand for understanding 
where we are in the ecosystem, where we are making progress and 
where we need to make more progress. There has been an effort 
mounted by Environment Canada, jointly with the Great Lakes 
National Program Office and the U.S. EPA called the State of 
the Lakes Ecosystems Conference, which is a biannual affair 
that convenes scientists from throughout the Basin. They have 
developed some 80 different indicators that they want to 
accumulate data on, so they can start answering the very 
questions you're asking across the Basin bases.
    The next meeting will take place in November. We have 
invested very heavily in the success of this effort, because 
like you, there's no point in making an investment unless you 
know why you need to make the investment and whether or not 
your investment is making progress. So we're very anxious that 
this should happen.
    There's also a burgeoning effort under the Oceans Observing 
System. There's a Great Lakes program being mounted by the 
Great Lakes Commission to achieve water quality data more 
remotely and more comprehensively than we have to date. There 
are a number of issues going on in the Basin that, you're 
correct in pointing out, need to be brought together. Perhaps 
this committee would like to hear from the State of the Lakes 
Ecosystems Conference organizers. They produce a report that 
might influence your thinking.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you.
    Ms. Katz. Senator, if I may.
    Senator Voinovich. Yes.
    Ms. Katz. I think science information about Lake conditions 
is crucial. It's crucial for us to know what priorities need to 
be set and what actions need to be taken. I would suggest that 
a lot of resources for that effort could be amassed were we to 
eliminate programs that are sucking up funding but are not as 
effective as more research would be.
    I would also suggest that another very important aspect of 
our research needs to be on program effectiveness. Right now we 
are allocating huge sums of money to dozens and dozens of 
programs, most of which we have no idea whether they are having 
any impact whatsoever.
    Senator Voinovich. As part of the work that your 
organization does, have you got a report on all that?
    Ms. Katz. We are in the process of doing a census on Great 
Lakes programs. I'd be happy to communicate with your office on 
the information that we have to date, and when it's finished.
    Senator Voinovich. I'd appreciate that, if you spend the 
time on it, looking at a program and how long has it been in 
existence and what result have we got back from it. I think all 
of us would be interested in that perspective on it.
    Ms. Katz. OMB has run some initial evaluations and has, 
those are available and I would be happy to pass those along as 
well.
    Senator Voinovich. Mr. Howland, do you want to talk about 
this?
    Mr. Howland. Thank you, Senator. The State of the Lake 
report which you referenced is our attempt to describe the 
conditions presently in Lake Champlain. We have chosen some 
indicators to do that. In fact, we are now, this last year, 
introducing an ecosystem indicators program that will evaluate 
the pressures on the lake ecosystem. Those include economic as 
well as physical, environmental pressures, measurements of the 
State of the Lake, with a number of indicators for that, and 
indicators of the management response. So we have a pressure-
state-response model. The management response should change the 
pressures and improve the State. This is the model that we have 
chosen for Lake Champlain. We are now in the process of trying 
to identify what the best indicators are, and coincidentally, I 
think we are looking also at a slate of 80 candidate 
indicators. This is where the best science available to us, and 
to other Lake systems, has kind of converged on the same need. 
We have to be able to show outcomes for the funding that we 
use. We have to be able to show progress to our public and our 
citizens, and we have to also be to recognize our problems and 
know how to address them.
    The State of the Lake report that you have there is our 
latest best assessment of where we are. We will hope to be 
doing that every 3 or 4 years, according to our present plans.
    Senator Voinovich. That's wonderful. We will look at it as 
part of this legislation that we have.
    Mr. Howland. We hope that some process that can be shared 
with our colleagues in the Great Lakes and that we can benefit 
from the work on indicators that they are doing, because this 
is a developing initiative of ours. That's one of the reasons 
we are eager to have a collaboration.
    Senator Voinovich. Thank you. I want to thank all of you. 
It's 12:30, and I know some of you have to be somewhere at 1 
o'clock o'clock. I want to thank you very much for being here 
and thank you very much for your patience today.
    I have several more questions that I'm going to go through 
and prioritize and you may be getting a little letter from me 
asking for your response. We're going to get in writing the 
answers to some of the questions that you heard me ask Mr. 
Johnson. I will share them with you.
    In addition to that, we'll be getting from him a specific 
plan in terms of how he's going to handle this initiative. Then 
I'd be really interested in getting feedback from you as to 
whether you think that's adequate to get the job done. Because 
the key right now is to make sure that we have someone that's 
going to give this the attention that it deserves, and that 
it's not going to fall off the list because there's other 
priorities that are commanding the attention of whoever it is 
that's supposed to be doing the work.
    It's a major effort, and I want to thank everybody that's 
here. The fact that you got 1,500 groups together and, I just 
say, stick to it, keep it going. We are going to need your 
help. I think that if we continue to work together, we're going 
to make some progress.
    I will say this, that a big problem that all of you should 
be aware of is the whole infrastructure problem. You can look 
at the Great Lakes and look at your needs there. But we have 
nationwide needs to be addressed. Quite frankly, this 
Administration and the one before it have basically kind of 
ignored it. The chickens are coming home to roost.
    I think that we need to convince the American people that 
they have to invest in this infrastructure if we're going to 
maintain our quality of life and our competitiveness. Quite 
frankly, not run into situations like we ran into down in New 
Orleans, where had we done the job that we were supposed to do, 
it might not have occurred.
    So thank you very, very much for being here today.
    [Whereupon, at 12:33 p.m., the committee was adjourned.]
    [Additional statements submitted for the record follow.]
Statement of Hon. Barack Obama, U.S. Senator from the State of Illinois
    Mr. Chairman, Senator Jeffords, in December, I wrote to the two of 
you and asked that you hold a hearing on the restoration strategy for 
protecting and restoring the Great Lakes. I greatly appreciate your 
accommodating my request and thank the witnesses for appearing today.
    The Great Lakes are a natural wonder of the world that hold one-
fifth of the world's fresh surface water. Lake Michigan alone provides 
over 40 percent of the drinking water used by the residents of my home 
State of Illinois. By providing drinking water, the Great Lakes are 
important to our citizens' physical health. By providing shipping, 
fishing and recreational opportunities, they are important to our 
region's--as well as our Nation's--economic health. Along with our 
neighbor to the north, Canada, we are the stewards of this great 
resource.
    For some time now we have known that the natural ability of the 
Lakes to cleanse themselves has been stretched too thin. Using the best 
science and technology, we have tried to remedy the ills inflicted upon 
the Lakes but all too often, we have failed to do so in a coordinated 
manner.
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration has been a remarkable break 
from the past. The Collaboration has attempted to examine the needs of 
the ecosystems present in the Great Lakes through a partnership of 
1,500 stakeholders, including Government officials, private sector 
representatives, and environmental organizations. The Collaboration's 
recommendations do not contain all the answers, but they do provide a 
blueprint for rebuilding our way to environmental health. I'd like to 
take this opportunity to commend the participants in the Collaboration 
for their dedication to the Great Lakes, and their national service in 
meeting their commitment to the task at hand.
    It is imperative that we not lose momentum, that we commit adequate 
resources to the effort, and that we provide the stewardship these 
resources deserve. Every day our Nation waits, restoration of the Great 
Lakes becomes more difficult and more expensive. Holding this hearing 
today is a step in the right direction. Hopefully it will be the first 
of many taken together in the weeks and months to come.
    Thank you.
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     Statement of Hon. Russell D. Feingold, U.S. Senator from the 
                           State of Wisconsin
    I thank the Environment and Public Works Committee for holding this 
hearing today. I also thank Senator Levin and Senator DeWine for their 
ongoing leadership as co-chairs of the Senate Great Lakes Task Force.
    The Great Lakes are a national resource like no other. Beyond 
inspiring all those who witness their majesty, they provide freshwater 
for our communities, sustain numerous fisheries, support agricultural 
activities, and provide an economic base for the region, among other 
things. Unfortunately, like so many other of our natural resources, the 
Great Lakes require our immediate attention and commitment if they are 
to remain a vibrant resource for the country. I applaud the efforts of 
all those who participated in the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration--
your willingness to spend a year working to compile recommendations to 
help restore the Great Lakes is commendable. All levels of government 
must heed the Collaboration's warnings and take action on its 
recommendations.
    Finally, I am hopeful that today's hearing truly indicates a new 
pledge of stewardship not only with respect to the Great Lakes, but to 
all of parts of our environment. Continuing to turn a blind eye to the 
fact that our fate is tied to the fate of the environment will only 
result in more problems. In addition to caring deeply about the Great 
Lakes, my constituents also care about so many other natural resource 
issues. Whether it be safeguarding wetlands, reducing greenhouse gas 
emissions, or protecting wildlife refuges, the U.S. Senate must step up 
and provide the environmental leadership that my constituents, and the 
American public, yearn for.
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            Statement of Stephen L. Johnson, Administrator, 
                    Environmental Protection Agency
    Good morning Mr. Chairman, Senator Voinovich, and members of the 
Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. I am pleased to have the 
opportunity to be here on ``Great Lakes Day'' to discuss the Strategy 
to Restore and Protect the Great Lakes that was developed by the Great 
Lakes Regional Collaboration. I would like to specifically acknowledge, 
Mr. Voinovich, your leadership and efforts in support of restoring and 
protecting the Great Lakes--one of our country's most important 
environmental treasures.
    As we begin, I would like to highlight the $70 million request for 
the Great Lakes included in the President's FY07 budget for EPA. Nearly 
$50 million of this request is to fund the Great Lakes Legacy Act. This 
represents essentially full funding of the authorized levels in the 
Great Lakes Legacy Act (GLLA) for cleanup of contaminated sediments in 
the Areas of Concern, and is a clear demonstration of the 
Administration's commitment to the restoration and protection of the 
Great Lakes.
                               background
    On May 18, 2004, President Bush signed the Great Lakes Executive 
Order establishing the Great Lakes Interagency Task Force and Promoting 
a Regional Collaboration of National Significance for the Great Lakes.
    The Interagency Task Force was created to increase and improve 
collaboration and integration among the more than 140 Federal programs 
that help fund and implement environmental restoration and management 
activities throughout the Great Lakes system. It was also designed to 
help ensure that these programs are funding effective, coordinated, and 
environmentally sound activities.
    The purpose of the Regional Collaboration was to create a 
partnership among the Federal Government, Great Lakes States, tribal 
and local governments, communities, and other interests to address 
nationally significant environmental and natural resource issues 
involving the Great Lakes.
    Much has been accomplished to date to meet both of these 
objectives.
                      progress to date/next steps
The Interagency Task Force
    In its October 2005 report to the President on Implementation of 
the Great Lakes Executive Order, the Federal Interagency Task Force 
estimated that the Federal Government spends approximately half a 
billion dollars annually in support of Great Lakes water quality 
improvement programs.
    In addition, the Administration recently has committed to begin 
implementing 48 near term actions in 2006 to help speed restoration and 
protection of the Great Lakes. These activities address issues in all 
eight of the priority areas identified in the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration's recently released Strategy to Restore and Protect the 
Great Lakes.
    Examples of these activities at EPA include: developing a 
standardized sanitary survey form, for use by the State and local 
governments to help identify sources of contamination affecting public 
beaches in the Great Lakes; providing improved policy guidance on 
managing peak flows at sanitary sewer plants to reduce overflows; 
conducting surveillance for emerging chemicals of concern; and, working 
with the Corps of Engineers to streamline and improve the permitting 
process for projects to restore wetlands and other aquatic habitat in 
the Great Lakes Basin.
    These efforts are larger than EPA, however, and include 
collaborative efforts with our sister agencies. These activities 
include: restoring productive fisheries through efforts of the U.S. 
Fish and Wildlife Service and the Great Lakes Fishery Commission in 
partnership with States, Tribes, and Canada; conducting rapid watershed 
assessments on critical watershed areas to collect natural resource 
data and applying critical conservation on the ground through the 
Department of Agriculture; supporting authorization to make permanent 
the demonstration barrier on the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal 
through the Corps of Engineers; and, joining with the States in an 
equally shared effort to develop wetlands restoration plans that will 
enhance and protect a total of 200,000 acres through the Great Lakes 
Federal Interagency Task Force.
            Next Steps
    Of equal importance to these specific activities is the Task 
Force's attention to its charge to improve collaboration and 
integration among relevant Federal programs in the Great Lakes. To this 
end, the Task Force is developing a work plan for its efforts to 
address all components of the Executive order, including fostering 
consistent Federal policies toward the Great Lakes, developing outcome 
based goals, improving the exchange of information, coordinating 
scientific research programs, and collaborating with Canada on 
binational issues.
The Regional Collaboration of National Significance
    The collaborative effort envisioned in the Great Lakes Executive 
Order became a reality with the formation of the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration (GLRC) in December 2004. The Collaboration partners, 
through the outstanding efforts of the eight Strategy Teams, spent the 
subsequent year developing recommendations for restoring and protecting 
the Great Lakes. After receiving extensive public input to the draft 
recommendations, the GLRC released its final Strategy last December. As 
part of the resolution signed at the ceremony marking the release of 
the Strategy, all of the Collaboration partners affirmed that the 
Strategy will guide future efforts to protect and restore the Great 
Lakes.
            Next Steps
    This unprecedented document offers a unique opportunity to make 
real improvements to the Great Lakes. For the first time, all levels of 
government, as well as our non-governmental partners, will be looking 
to the same goals, objectives, and recommendations to help guide their 
actions regarding the Great Lakes. The Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration will continue into the future to guide implementation of 
the Strategy. The partners have been working on an implementation 
framework, which will ensure the plan is carried out and 
accomplishments are reported on.
The President's Fiscal Year 2007 Budget Request
    The Administration already is using the Strategy as a guide as it 
plans its future activities in the Great Lakes basin. For example, the 
President's FY07 budget contains several requests for funding that will 
support priorities in the GLRC Strategy:
    <bullet> As I mentioned earlier in my testimony, the budget for EPA 
includes essentially full funding of the authorized levels in the Great 
Lakes Legacy Act for cleanup of the Areas of Concern, almost $50 
million or approximately 70 percent more than appropriated in fiscal 
year 2006. This funding will help leverage at least $25 million from 
our State and local partners as well. Already, 200,000 cubic yards of 
contaminated sediments were remediated through the Legacy Act in 2004 
and 2005. We estimate that in 2006 and 2007, GLLA projects will 
remediate over 650,000 cubic yards of contaminated sediments.
    <bullet> Several of USDA's conservation programs, including the 
Wildlife Habitat Improvement Program and the Conservation Security 
Program, would see increases. Of particular note is a proposed increase 
of 100,000 acres and $153 million over FY06 enacted levels for the 
Wetlands Reserve Program. These are all national programs, of course, 
but the Great Lakes basin stands to benefit as well.
    <bullet> In support of Great Lakes regional collaboration, NOAA's 
budget requests $1.5 million to establish a Great Lakes Habitat 
Restoration Program that will mobilize NOAA's restoration assets to 
restore the Great Lakes' aquatic resources. This funding will be used 
to identify an optimal restoration plan and to provide outreach, 
facilitation and technical assistance to stakeholders and communities 
participating in the restoration activities. In addition, NOAA's budget 
contains an increase in funding of $1.5 million for its nation-wide 
Aquatic Invasive Species Program, a portion of which will benefit the 
Great Lakes.
    <bullet> With an increase of nearly $18 million, the Corps of 
Engineers will continue construction of the McCook Reservoir flood 
damage reduction project that will virtually eliminate the backflows of 
raw sewage to Lake Michigan, reducing beach closings, and enhancing 
coastal health.
    <bullet> And with an increase of over $12 million, the Corps of 
Engineers also will continue construction of a facility for the safe 
and effective management of more than 4 million cubic yards of 
contaminated sediments from the Indiana Harbor navigation channel and 
adjacent areas.
    <bullet> A portion of the increase for the Department of the 
Interior's North American Wetlands Conservation Fund will help advance 
wetlands restoration in the Great Lakes.
    <bullet> The Department of the Interior Fish and Wildlife Service 
budget includes funding for its Aquatic Invasive Species Program and an 
increase of more than $3.3 million to restore fish habitat and fish 
passage under the National Fish Habitat Initiative, portions of which 
also benefit the Great Lakes.
                               conclusion
    In closing, Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank you and the 
committee for inviting me to participate in this hearing. The 
Administration looks forward to working with you and all of our 
Collaboration partners to continue this important work, because it is 
only through concerted, coordinated action that we will realize our 
mutually held goal of a cleaner, healthier Great Lakes. I would be 
happy to answer any questions that you may have.
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     Responses by Stephen L. Johnson to Additional Questions from 
                             Senator Inhofe
    Question 1. The Strategy establishes funding levels for each of its 
goals. However, there seems to be some disagreement as to who will be 
providing those funds. In your view, how much of the $20 billion in the 
Great Lakes Strategy do you expect from the Federal Government, the 
State governments and the local governments?
    Response. All levels of government provide substantial resources to 
the Great Lakes. For instance, the Federal Government alone provides 
approximately $500 million annually to support Great Lakes water 
quality activities. As part of the Federal spending, the Interagency 
Task Force, which strongly believes in protecting the Great Lakes, is 
implementing 48 Near Term Actions within existing resources. To the 
Agency's knowledge, a comparable summation of current State and local 
activities and spending does not exist at this time.
    As highlighted in the Interagency Task Force (IATF) Report on the 
Implementation of the Great Lakes Executive Order, the Federal 
Government strongly encouraged the regional collaboration to focus the 
strategy on activities that can be accomplished within current budget 
projections. The IATF also encouraged the collaboration to focus the 
strategy on prioritizing and coordinating these substantial resources 
across all of the Collaboration partners in order to improve efficiency 
and effectiveness while maximizing results. While the final Strategy 
acknowledged these principles, they were not used to guide development 
of the recommendations. For that reason, the IATF continues to have 
serious concerns with the Strategy, including the recommended funding 
levels. The IATF will continue to work with State and local partners to 
protect the Great Lakes.

    Question 2. The near term actions outlined by the Council of Great 
Lakes Governors and the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative 
in a letter sent to the President on December 12, 2005 and the near 
term actions developed by the Administration are inconsistent. Given 
the discrepancies in these near term action items, how can we make sure 
that the goal of better coordination is met?
    Response. The Federal Interagency Task Force (IATF) has finalized a 
workplan to track the near-term actions agencies will carry out to 
implement a subset of actions contained in the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration (GLRC) strategy. We are reviewing these actions, along 
with the actions outlined in the letter to the President, to coordinate 
which actions can be accomplished within current funding levels, and 
which agencies can contribute to completing these actions under current 
program authorities.
    In addition, the GLRC's Executive Committee released a Strategy 
Implementation Framework on March 16, 2006. The Framework affirms the 
role of the Executive Committee as the body that will fulfill various 
roles and responsibilities related to implementing the GLRC Strategy. 
Among those roles and responsibilities are: (1) identifying and 
resolving major implementation issues; and (2) facilitating 
coordination of Great Lakes restoration and protection activities among 
GLRC participants. In carrying out these responsibilities, the 
Executive Committee will provide the best forum for identifying 
opportunities to improve coordination.
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     Responses by Stephen L. Johnson to Additional Questions from 
                            Senator Jeffords
    Question 1. Administrator Johnson, what criteria were used to 
select the 48 near-term actions you cite in your testimony as near-term 
priorities for the Administration?
    Response. In identifying the activities to include on its near-term 
list, the Administration's intent was to demonstrate a commitment to 
early action and tangible progress in each of the eight Strategy Team 
priority areas. Therefore, items on the near-term list address all 
eight priority areas, and are being initiated in 2006 using existing 
resources.

    Question 2. Administrator Johnson, who will be responsible for 
monitoring the completion of the 48 near-term actions and will that 
person have some type of organizational or oversight responsibility for 
the actions of other Federal agencies?
    Response. The President's Executive Order on the Great Lakes 
provides clear direction to Federal agencies to improve coordination 
and collaboration on Great Lakes issues through the auspices of the 
Interagency Task Force and the Regional Working Group. This structure 
brings the right Federal agencies to the table, at both the national 
and regional levels, to ensure that our programs are supporting 
effective and coordinated activities in the Great Lakes basin, and that 
we are making real environmental progress.
    As the Chair of the Interagency Task Force, I have the ultimate 
responsibility to ensure that the Task Force implements the provisions 
of the Executive order, and delivers environmental results for the 
Great Lakes, including the completion of the Interagency Task Force's 
48 Near Term Actions. Ben Grumbles, EPA's Assistant Administrator for 
Water, shares this responsibility as well. In addition, I have 
designated Gary Gulezian, Director of EPA's Great Lakes National 
Program Office, as the senior manager in charge of monitoring progress 
on implementing the Interagency Task Force's 48 Near Term Actions. Mr. 
Gulezian also serves as Chair of the Regional Working Group, a role 
that gives him the capability to engage other Federal agencies in 
implementing the Interagency Task Force's 48 Near Term Actions and to 
monitor their progress.

    Question 3. Administrator Johnson, have you established measurable 
interim and final goals against which progress restoring the Great 
Lakes can be measured? If so, were they established using public input? 
If you have established interim goals, please submit them for the 
record.
    Response. At this time, interim goals have not been established for 
the GLRC. The IATF/RWG will be looking at the status of existing goals 
for the Great Lakes and comparing them to the new GLRC Strategy in 
order to develop a set of goals that can be measured and reported. The 
IATF/RWG will also be working with our Canadian partners through the 
State of the Lakes Ecosystem conference (SOLEC) to measure progress and 
assess trends associated with the Great Lakes.

    Question 4. Administrator Johnson, how will the Administration 
ensure that the implementation of the Great Lakes Strategy is 
coordinated, and executed according to priority?
    Response. The GLRC's Executive Committee released, on March 16, 
2006, a Strategy Implementation Framework. The Framework affirms the 
role of the Executive Committee as the body that will fulfill various 
roles and responsibilities related to implementing the GLRC Strategy. 
Among those roles and responsibilities are: (1) identifying and 
resolving major implementation issues; and (2) facilitating 
coordination of Great Lakes restoration and protection activities among 
GLRC participants. In carrying out these responsibilities, the 
Executive Committee will provide the best forum for identifying 
opportunities to improve coordination.
    In terms of coordinating Federal efforts related to implementation 
of the GLRC Strategy, including the Interagency Task Force's 48 Near 
Term Actions, the Task Force and the Regional Working Group both have 
key roles. In addition, I have designated Gary Gulezian, Director of 
EPA's Great Lakes National Program Office, as the senior manager in 
charge of coordinating implementation of the Interagency Task Force's 
48 Near Term Actions.

    Question 5. Administrator Johnson, what is the EPA's Assessment of 
the health of the Great Lakes ecosystem? Please include in your 
assessment a list and short description of the scientific documents, 
included peer reviewed studies, on which you base your assessment.
    Response. EPA and Environment Canada have been developing, 
maintaining and implementing a suite of Great Lakes indicators since 
1997. An assessment of the status and trends of the Great Lakes basin 
ecosystem is conducted every 2 years based on the indicator suite, and 
a comprehensive, peer reviewed report is prepared. The State of the 
Great Lakes 2005\1\ report presents the compilation, scientific 
analysis and interpretation of data about the Great Lakes basin 
ecosystem. The report is peer reviewed by distinguished scientists from 
the United States and Canada participating in the State of the Lakes 
Ecosystem process. The final report will be issued on June 26, 2006. 
The information is derived from the combined efforts of many scientists 
and managers in the Great Lakes community representing Federal, Tribal/
First Nations, State, provincial and municipal governments, non-
government organizations, industry, academia and private citizens.
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    \1\ State of the Great Lakes 2005 Highlights, EPA 905-F-05-006 U.S. 
Environmental Protection Agency, and Cat. No. En161-3/2005E Environment 
Canada, ISBN 0-662-41451-9, Chicago and Toronto.
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    Information in the State of the Great Lakes 2005 report was 
presented to participants at the State of the Lakes Ecosystem 
Conference (SOLEC), October 6-8, 2004, in Toronto, Ontario. Draft 
reports were available for public review and comment following SOLEC 
2004, and suggested additions, corrections and revisions were 
considered and incorporated as appropriate. This bi-national peer 
review process ensured that the data were presented accurately by the 
report authors, and that the conclusions were supported by the data.
    The indicator reports acknowledge the authors and affiliations, 
give information about the sources for the data, and list relevant 
peer-reviewed literature, agency reports, or other citations supporting 
the information presented. The final technical report will be available 
online on June 26, 2006 at www.binational.net and at http://epa.gov/
glnpo/solec/index.html. Documents currently available are: State of the 
Great Lakes 2005 Highlights\2\ and State of the Great Lakes 2005 
Indicator Summaries\3\.
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    \2\ State of the Great Lakes 2005 Highlights, EPA 905-F-05-006 U.S. 
Environmental Protection Agency, and Cat. No. En161-3/2005E Environment 
Canada, ISBN 0-662-41451-9, Chicago and Toronto.
    \3\ State of the Great Lakes 2005 Indicator Summaries, U.S. 
Environmental Protection Agency and Environment Canada, Chicago and 
Toronto.
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     Responses by Stephen L. Johnson to Additional Questions from 
                           Senator Voinovich
    Question 1a. You stated that the Administration is undertaking 48 
near-term actions in 2006. Please provide the timetable for 
implementation of each item on the list.Response.

               Interagency Task Force 48 Near Term Actions
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                                                 Completed/ Expected Due
                    Action                                Date
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Complete analysis for Asian Carp and make                          ASAP
 listing decision.............................
Support Carp Barrier legislation and explore                    FY 2006
 options for long-term operations and
 maintenance..................................
Develop action plan to develop inventories,                     FY 2006
 mapping, and treatment of terrestrial
 invasive species for the GL basin............
Test shipboard ballast water treatment                          FY 2006
 technologies aboard a MARAD-owned barge......
Perform EPA's validation testing for Ballast                    FY 2006
 Water Treatment Test Protocols...............
Develop Aquatic Invasive Species Rapid                                 Completed
 Response document for State and local natural
 resource mgrs................................
Create a Rapid Response Subcommittee in the                     FY 2006
 RWG to serve as central point of contact
 related to aquatic invasive species rapid
 response efforts in GL basin.................
Support a five-yr goal for CSO/SSO communities                  Ongoing
 to complete Long- Term Control Plans.........
Issue improved policy guidance on managing                      FY 2006
 peak flows at sanitary plants................
Develop a standardized sanitary survey form                FY 2006-2008
 for State & local governments and support
 implementation pilots using the new survey...
Develop revised criteria to evaluate safety of                  FY 2006
 beaches for swimming, and advance pathogen
 prediction studies for beach closings and
 harmful algal blooms forecasting.............
Develop AWQC for cryptosporidium in source                      FY 2007
 water, criteria will help states & tribes
 develop standards to ease burdens on water
 treatment facilities.........................
W/states, analyze WQS data to determine if                      FY 2007
 WQSs are supportive of a drinking water use
 for surface water intake systems.............
Issue new handbook for Managing Onsite &                               Completed
 Clustered Wastewater Treatment Systems.......
Fully maximize & implement the GL Legacy Act..                         Completed
AOC-EPA committed $25M to clean up Ohio's                              Completed
 Ashtabula River, to be matched by State and
 local partners...............................
AOC-EPA expanded EPA-STATE RAP group to                                Completed
 include COE, FWS, and NOAA...................
Support creating a State-Federal-local-tribal                   FY 2006
 Legacy Act coordinating committee............
Evaluate implementation schedule and future                     FY 2006
 directions for Binational Toxics Strategy....
Begin surveillance for emerging chemicals of                    FY 2006
 concern......................................
Work with partners to initiate a toxic                          FY 2007
 pollution prevention outreach campaign for
 local & tribes...............................
Support efforts to develop basin-wide mercury                   FY 2007
 product stewardship strategy.................
Support outreach campaign offering                              FY 2007
 alternatives to burning & educate on
 consequences of burning......................
Support efforts of GL Sport Fish Advisory Task                  FY 2006
 Force to develop new fish consumption
 advisories...................................
Provide guidance to regional offices asking                     FY 2006
 them to include updated mercury methods in
 permits with mercury limits..................
Develop draft Methylmercury water quality                       FY 2007
 criteria implementation guidance for states..
Support development of several watershed TMDL                   FY 2007
 pilot efforts in regions-pilot planned for GL
 region.......................................
Feds, states, & NGOs develop wetlands                           FY 2006
 restoration plans to enhance & protect
 200,000 acres in the GL basin................
Review Federal wetlands management programs to                  FY 2007
 identify possible improved program
 coordination.................................
Expedite processing and review of permits to                    FY 2006
 restore wetlands and other aquatic habitat in
 the GL basin.................................
Update National Wetlands Inventory maps for GL                  Ongoing
 wetlands.....................................
Include and implement selected Great Lakes                      Ongoing
 watersheds in the Conservation Security
 Program......................................
Conduct rapid watershed assessments on                          FY 2006
 critical watershed areas to collect natural
 resource data and implement results..........
Adopt innovative conservation technologies &                    Ongoing
 approaches using Conservation Innovative
 Grants Program to improve quality of natural
 resources in basin...........................
Join others in evaluating effectiveness of                      Ongoing
 conservation practices/systems on improving
 soil, water quality and related resources to
 include GL states............................
Hold information & education workshops to                           TBD
 strengthen watershed protection through
 improved coordination........................
Convene gathering of State transportation                       FY 2006
 agencies to explore what can be done to
 reduce storm water runoff in GL region.......
Convene a special session at 2006 SOLEC on key                  FY 2006
 indicators related to GLRC strategy
 recommendations..............................
Review monitoring programs to ensure effective                  FY 2007
 & efficient gathering & reporting of data....
Under the Regional Data Exchange initiative                     Ongoing
 enhance the collaborative efforts between
 data managers................................
Continue to implement US portion of Global                      Ongoing
 Earth Observation System of Systems and
 Integrated Ocean Observing System............
Coordinate existing GL National Status &                        Ongoing
 Trends monitoring with other agencies........
Council of GL Research Managers will promote                    FY 2006
 bi-national coordination & prioritization of
 research activities & implement it in
 conjunction w/IJC............................
Explore ways to consider sustainable practices                      TBD
 in reviewing SRF & brownfields programs......
Explore possibility of GL Green Highways forum                  FY 2007
 with the states..............................
Review the feasibility of reviewing existing                    FY 2006
 GL grant, loan & subsidy programs &
 incorporate sustainable criteria.............
Encourage application of planning methods that                  FY 2007
 lead to development of sustainable &
 integrated land use, transportation, & other
 public infrastructure plans; and encourage
 Metro Planning Organizations to undertake
 scenario planning & integrated sustainable
 development planning & provide technical
 assistance...................................
Support establishment of a national Alliance                    FY 2006
 for Water Efficiency in Chicago..............
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    Question 1b. I inserted into the record a letter that I recently 
received from the Great Lakes governors and mayors. It includes a 
letter sent to the President on December 12, 2005 proposing a list of 
near-term action items. Please detail for each item whether you are 
implementing it, and if not, then why you are not.
    Response. As noted, the Administration is implementing the 
Interagency Task Force's 48 Near Term Actions within existing 
resources. Several of these near-term actions were included in the 
December 12, 2005 letter to the President from the Great Lakes 
governors and mayors. In addition, the Administration is continuing 
work on many of the other requested actions within current resources.

    Question 2. You mentioned the Asian carp barriers in the Chicago 
Sanitary and Ship Canal as a priority. Last Congress, we worked hard to 
get language passed to provide the Army Corps of Engineers with more 
funding to construct the second barrier. We have heard about more 
problems recently with the continued operation of the first barrier. I 
inserted into the record a letter that Senator Obama and I sent in 
December with over 40 members in the House and Senate. We have included 
provisions in WRDA but have yet to move that bill through the Senate. 
Please provide for the record a detailed update on this project and 
what the Administration is doing about it.
    Response. The Administration is committed to working with Congress 
and non-federal entities, as appropriate, to halt the spread of 
invasive species between the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River 
Basin.
    As you know, the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal (CSSC) is a man-
made waterway that connects the Chicago River and the Des Plaines 
River, which creates a connection between Lake Michigan and the 
Mississippi River. A demonstration dispersal barrier has been operating 
in the CSSC since April 2002. The permanent barrier (Barrier II) is 
needed to provide more permanent protection against invasive species. 
Barrier II will again be an electric field barrier, but will include 
design improvements identified during monitoring and testing of the 
demonstration barrier and be capable of producing a more powerful 
electrical field.
    Barrier II is being constructed in two phases. Construction of the 
first phase (Barrier IIA) is complete and it is now undergoing startup 
and safety testing. This phase consists of construction of two 
underwater electrode arrays and one control house. This control house 
will be able to operate one of the two arrays. It cannot be operated at 
full strength until the safety testing results are approved by the 
Coast Guard, expected by the end of June 2006.
    The second phase (IIB) consists of construction of a second control 
house that will allow both arrays to be operated at the same time. The 
non-federal sponsor is the Illinois Department of Natural Resources 
(IDNR). The sponsor and others believe the project is of regional 
importance and should become a full Federal responsibility. The 
navigation industry is concerned that the barrier may be unsafe for 
passing barge tows and their crews. Safety testing will be completed in 
coordination with the U.S. Coast Guard to address these concerns.
    Final design of Barrier IIB will be completed within FY 2006. 
Construction of IIB would not begin until final costs from Barrier IIA 
have been verified and final contract negotiations completed for 
Barrier IIB. Upon availability of funds, Barrier IIB construction would 
likely take 6 months.

    Question 3. You detail some of the funding in the President's 
budget for Great Lakes programs. While you mention increases, I 
understand that the President's budget decreases funding in other key 
areas, such as the Great Lakes National Program Office, Great Lakes 
Fishery Commission, and several corps projects. Please provide for the 
committee a cross-cutting budget analysis for FY 2007 detailing 
increases and decreases for all of the Federal programs that impact the 
Great Lakes.
    Response. A cross cutting budget analysis has not been undertaken 
at this time.

    Question 4a. The ``Report to the President on the Implementation of 
the Great Lakes Executive Order'' stated that the Great Lakes receive 
$500 million annually in Federal funds for restoration. Please list the 
programs and amount of funds that go towards Great Lakes restoration 
annually.
    Response. Relevant information from the Report to the President on 
the Implementation of the Great Lakes Executive Order is attached. It 
contains the programs and funding levels that were included in the 
$500M estimate. See Attachment A.

    Question 4b. How did the Great Lakes Interagency Task Force 
determine which programs relate to the Great Lakes? What criteria were 
used to determine whether to include a program or not?
    Response. The Task Force included three levels of information in 
its assessment. Level 1 contains quantitative data on programs that 
have a direct impact on the water quality of the Great Lakes. Level 2 
includes qualitative descriptions of programs that lack a direct water 
quality connection, but are more broadly beneficial to the Great Lakes 
ecosystem. Level 3 includes qualitative descriptions of programs that 
lack clear water quality and broader ecosystem benefits, but are 
beneficial to the Great Lakes region.

    Question 4c. How did the Interagency Task Force determine how much 
funding from national programs benefited the Great Lakes ecosystem? Did 
the Task Force evaluate whether funding, particularly funding through 
the Clean Water State Revolving Fund and the USDA's Natural Resources 
Conservation Service programs, was spent within the Great Lakes basin?
    Response. In cases where national programs were included in the 
Task Force report, the Task Force attempted to break out from the 
national totals the resources directed to the Great Lakes basin.
    For example, expenditures in the relevant United States Department 
of Agriculture (USDA) conservation programs are tracked in a way that 
can differentiate between in-basin and out-of-basin expenditures. For 
some programs however; e.g. EPA's Clean Water State Revolving Fund, 
expenditure data exist only at the state-wide level, and those are the 
numbers that were included in the report.

    Question 5. In your role as Chair of the Federal Great Lakes 
Interagency Task Force, what are your plans for integrating and 
improving the multiple Federal wetlands protection programs which are 
spread out over a number of agencies so that the President's goal of 
restoring 3 million acres nationally over 5 years is achieved?
    Response. The IATF/RWG is developing a subcommittee of Agencies 
that administer wetlands programs to work on improving coordination, as 
well as implementing and tracking the wetlands related activities in 
the list of the Interagency Task Force's 48 Near Term Actions committed 
to by the Administration. These activities include:
    <bullet> The Federal Government will join the States in an equally 
shared effort to develop wetlands restoration plans that will enhance, 
and protect a total of 200,000 acres.
    <bullet> The Army Corps of Engineers and EPA will work with the 
other Federal agencies in the Interagency Task Force and States to 
expedite the processing and review of permits for projects to restore 
wetlands and other aquatic habitat in the Great Lakes Basin.
    <bullet> The Administration will continue to update the National 
Wetlands Inventory as scheduled, which will provide valuable 
information about Great Lakes wetlands.

    Question 6. What are the next steps for the Collaboration? What is 
the Federal Government's role?
    Response. The next steps for the Great Lakes Collaboration are to 
work with partner Agencies and others to ensure that high priority 
actions identified in both the Federal Near Term Action plan, including 
the Interagency Task Force's 48 Near Term Actions, as well as the 
priority actions identified by the other members of the GLRC, are 
implemented taking into consideration current fiscal constraints. The 
IATF and RWG will work to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of 
ongoing programs and actions in the Great Lakes with an emphasis on 
improving coordination and managing toward environmental results.

    Question 7. How is EPA orchestrating this effort at the Federal, 
state, and local level? Who is in charge of coordinating the day-to-day 
Great Lakes restoration activities?
    Response. The primary forum for orchestrating Federal programs and 
activities is the IATF/RWG. The Agencies are represented on the 
Executive Committee of the GLRC by the Chair of the IATF. States, 
Tribes and municipalities also are represented on the Executive 
Committee, and numerous other stakeholders are involved as well.
    Within EPA, the Great Lakes National Program Office, in close 
coordination with the Office of Water, is providing day-to-day support 
in carrying out coordination and support to a wide variety of these 
efforts. In addition to these efforts, there are other coordination 
forums within the Great Lakes, such as the Binational Executive 
Committee, the U.S. Policy Committee, the Great Lakes Fishery 
Commission, and the International Joint Commission, that serve to 
coordinate, or act as a clearinghouse for programs or information at 
the binational, as well as national or basin-wide, levels.

    Question 8. How can we better coordinate Great Lakes programs at 
all levels of government so that we are more efficient and effective?
    Response. On March 16, 2006, the GLRC's Executive Committee 
released a Strategy Implementation Framework that, among other things, 
affirms the role of the Executive Committee as the body that will 
fulfill various roles and responsibilities related to implementing the 
GLRC Strategy. One of the key responsibilities is to facilitate 
coordination of Great Lakes restoration and protection activities among 
GLRC participants. In carrying out these responsibilities, the 
Executive Committee will provide a forum for all levels of government 
to identify opportunities to improve coordination.
    Regarding what the Federal Government can do in particular, the 
President's Great Lakes Executive Order directs the IATF to improve 
coordination and management of Great Lakes programs in nine specific 
areas. Implementing the order will help to ensure that Great Lakes 
programs are directed at the most significant problems in the Great 
Lakes, that there is no duplication of effort, and that programs are 
well coordinated and accomplishing results.
    The IATF already has identified two key opportunities for improved 
coordination--Federal wetlands programs and aquatic invasive species 
rapid response. The Task Force has directed the Regional Working Group 
to create two subcommittees to address these issues, and call letters 
will be sent to IATF agencies soon to solicit participation.
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        Responses by Stephen L. Johnson to Additional Questions 
                           from Senator Obama
    Question 1. Does the President support the recommendations of the 
Regional Collaboration? If so, then why has the Administration 
requested such a small increase in resources to implement these 
recommendations?
    Response. The Administration is committed to the restoration of the 
Great Lakes, and to using the GLRC Strategy to guide its future 
restoration and protection efforts in the basin. As the Great Lakes 
Interagency Task Force's 2005 Report to the President on Implementation 
of the Great Lakes Executive Order cites, the Federal Government spends 
approximately half a billion dollars annually to improve water quality 
in the Great Lakes region. The Administration already is moving forward 
within its current budget to implement the Interagency Task Force's 48 
Near Term Actions that respond to all eight priority issues identified 
in the Collaboration Strategy.

    Question 2. Since you are the chair of the Federal Task Force, what 
specific actions can we expect the Task Force to take in 2006 and 2007?
    Response. The Task Force is moving forward actively to implement 
the 48 Near Term Actions it committed to after the release of the GLRC 
Strategy. All of the actions will be initiated in 2006 and are 
scheduled for completion no later than FY08, except in the case of 
several ongoing actions. In addition, the Task Force is implementing 
the other provisions contained in the Great Lakes Executive Order. The 
Task Force recently completed a work plan, which will allow it to track 
its progress in implementing both the 48 Near Term Actions and the 
other provisions of the Executive order. The work plan activities are 
all possible within existing resources.

    Question 3. By definition, the Task Force is Federal in nature. 
What are you willing to do to ensure the state, tribal, and local 
governments play a more equal role in setting priorities and 
determining how Federal resources are utilized?
    Response. The IATF will work to include all relevant state, tribal 
and local government partners as it works within existing resources to 
improve efficiency and effectiveness of current programs, and to 
implement the Interagency Task Force's 48 Near Term Actions committed 
to by the Administration.

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   Statement of Bob Taft, Governor, State of Ohio, on behalf of the 
                    Council of Great Lakes Governors
    Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to appear before you today.
    The Great Lakes community has reached an amazing milestone. Fifteen 
hundred people representing States, cities, tribes, the Federal 
Government, environmental, business and agricultural organizations came 
together in an unprecedented effort to create the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration Strategy, a blueprint for action to restore and protect 
the Great Lakes.
    Now that planning is complete, it is time to act. But there are 
barriers to implementation, and we need your help to surmount them. 
While the Collaboration members are moving forward on a number of 
actions using existing resources, significant policy and funding 
impediments remain. Without your support in this critical first year, 
there is a danger that the plan will be for naught and our momentum 
will be undermined.
    That would be tragic, because the Great Lakes remain threatened by 
emerging environmental threats, such as the introduction of a new 
invasive species every 8 months, and by historical problems such as 
contaminated sediments. A lack of sufficient coordination and focus 
among existing programs is also hindering progress.
    Congress can help:
    <bullet> By tackling problems that must be addressed on a regional 
or national level such as the control of invasive species;
    <bullet> By modifying the way funds are directed to Great Lakes 
priorities to improve coordination; and
    <bullet> By appropriating funds to address the most pressing 
environmental needs as part of the current budget.
    Let me briefly address each of the areas in which we seek your 
assistance.
    Invasive species pose perhaps the greatest threat to the Great 
Lakes in a generation. We urge you to pass the National Aquatic 
Invasive Species Act.
    In some areas, most notably wetlands restoration, a multiplicity of 
Federal programs with differing requirements complicates effective use 
of resources. In the Great Lakes Environmental Restoration Act (S 508), 
Senators Levin and DeWine have identified a promising mechanism for 
directing funds toward priority needs. By funding priorities rather 
than programs, Congress can effectively channel the work of Federal, 
State and local agencies toward key objectives.
    We applaud all the bill's sponsors and join their call for long-
term, large scale funding through a reformed process. But this will 
take time. That is why we ask that you fund key actions in this budget.
    We particularly ask for your support of the following:
    <bullet> Fund completion and operation of two permanent dispersal 
barriers in the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal to keep the Asian carp 
out of the Great Lakes. It will cost $6 million to protect the Great 
Lakes fishery, a small fraction of its $4 billion economic value.
    <bullet> Support the President's request for the Great Lakes Legacy 
Act to be funded at $49.6 million if not the full $54 million 
authorized level. In Ohio, we are thrilled by the U.S. EPA decision to 
use funds from the Legacy Act to clean up contaminated sediments in the 
Ashtabula River. Similar success stories in other Great Lakes States 
can be realized if Congress agrees to the President's request.
    <bullet> Provide an additional $50 million to U.S. EPA's brownfield 
program to clean up abandoned industrial waterfront properties in the 
Great Lakes basin. The economic return in our coastal cities can be 
tremendous. For example, a $3 million Clean Ohio Fund grant at an 
abandoned manufacturing site in Sandusky is generating $37 million in 
private investment in housing, retail, and outdoor recreational access.
    <bullet> Finally, support the President's commitment to restore 
200,000 acres of wetlands in the Great Lakes basin by appropriating 
$28.5 million. To ensure these resources are used efficiently, we also 
ask that you join us in encouraging the Federal Interagency Task Force 
to consolidate many Federal wetland programs.
    These first steps in implementing the Strategy will help fulfill 
our moral obligation to preserve this natural treasure for future 
generations. Another reason we must act is that the Great Lakes are 
vital to the economic health of the Nation. Nearly 29 percent of our 
nation's gross domestic product is produced by the Great Lakes States, 
including approximately 60 percent of all U.S. manufacturing. Shipping 
and tourism also produce significant economic activity, as others will 
testify here today.
    One problem in particular illustrates the link between 
environmental restoration and economic viability. As Senator Voinovich 
knows, the Army Corps of Engineers annually dredges Toledo Harbor to 
maintain navigation. Sediments have been disposed in the shallow 
western basin, stressing the most productive fishery in the entire 
Great Lakes.
    We reached agreement with the corps to cut back on open lake 
disposal and eliminate it entirely by 2012, using the dredged material 
for a habitat restoration project. Ohio will provide the non-Federal 
match and together, we will turn a negative into a positive. This can 
be a striking example of collaborative success.
    However, the agreement is seriously imperiled because the 
feasibility study did not qualify for funds under section 204 of the 
Water Development Appropriations Act in Federal fiscal year 2006. The 
corps needs $1.2 million for this study. I ask that you specifically 
name this project in the 2007 appropriations bill.
    The lack of priority funding for this study parallels the lack of 
funds allocated to the dispersal barrier I mentioned moments ago. 
Projects like these are key in our attempts to protect and improve the 
Great Lakes, require a small investment relative to the damage they 
promise to prevent, and need to be given serious consideration at the 
Federal level.
    The matter is made more urgent by the fact that across Lake Erie, 
an average of 4 years of disposal capacity remains for navigation 
channel dredging. This looming crisis will force us to choose between 
dredging to support shipping, and open lake dumping to the detriment of 
the Lake and its fishing and boating industries.
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration is needed to address 
emerging problems such as this, to oversee implementation of its 
Strategy, and to continue its collaborative work on behalf of Great 
Lakes restoration. We would welcome congressional action to codify both 
the Collaboration and the Federal Interagency Task Force.
    Collaboration members are actively working to identify areas in 
which all levels of government can coordinate efforts toward clearly 
defined goals. While I have spoken today of how Congress can help, be 
assured that the Great Lakes States and the other stakeholders remain 
committed to doing our share to protect and preserve our greatest 
natural resource.
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   Responses by Bob Taft to Additional Questions from Senator Inhofe
    Question 1. The Strategy establishes funding levels for each of its 
goals. However, there seems to be some disagreement as to who will be 
providing those funds. In your view, how much of the $20 billion in the 
Great Lakes Strategy do you expect from the Federal Government, the 
State governments, and the local governments?
    Response. The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy contains 
roughly 40 recommendations, the total cost of which is approximately 
$20 billion. The partners agree that the Strategy clearly defines the 
challenges facing the Great Lakes, and that prompt action to address 
those challenges is imperative. While the Strategy includes many 
excellent recommendations for doing so, alternate approaches may prove 
equally effective. To view the Strategy as a definitive list of 
projects with a firm price tag would be a misinterpretation. Rather, 
the Executive Committee of the Collaboration has described the Strategy 
as a guide to future actions to protect and restore the Great Lakes.
    The non-federal Collaboration partners have been clear throughout 
this process that each party must contribute its share if restoration 
efforts are to succeed. There are many instances in which State and 
local governments, as well as private sector partners, are currently 
contributing financially and expect to continue to do so. States and 
other non-federal interests currently provide 25 percent-60 percent of 
project costs through a wide range of existing authorizations ranging 
from U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to U.S. EPA, the Army Corps and 
NOAA. Increased Federal appropriations would be followed by increased 
nonfederal investments.
    Among the current State and local government investments are:
    <bullet> The non-federal match for Great Lakes Legacy Act projects 
to remove contaminated sediments is 35 percent. Assuming that the 
President's request for $49.6 million in Legacy Act funding is 
supported in Congress, the non-federal match would amount to nearly 
$17.5 million in FY 2007, and by extension $87.5 million if that 
funding level were sustained over the 5-year timeframe of the Strategy. 
In addition, States and local entities spend millions to evaluate these 
sites and design the restoration projects before applying for Legacy 
Act support. Further, the non-federal match may exceed 35 percent, as 
it does for the project getting underway in the Ashtabula River, where 
the State of Ohio and local entities are providing $25 million to match 
the $25 million investment from the Legacy Act.
    <bullet> The States operate numerous programs to reduce nonpoint 
source loadings including: Clean Water Act (CWA) Section 319 projects, 
which generate a non-federal match of approximately 40 percent; CWA 
state revolving fund assistance for a variety of nonpoint source 
projects; agricultural and urban runoff management; implementation of 
best management practices (BMPs); conservation programs; shoreline and 
streambank stabilization programs; priority stream, lake and watershed 
programs; stormwater runoff permit programs; animal feedlot operation 
controls; bio-solids programs; nutrient management programs; erosion 
and sediment control programs; contaminated sediment remediation 
projects; and others. Great Lakes States' expenditures range from 
$889,000 to $10,575,000 annually. A conservative estimate for eight 
State expenditures for these important nonpoint source programs might 
be $20 million to $30 million annually. In Ohio alone, the State 
Revolving Loan (SRF) awarded $5.2 million for BMP loans, and $12.3 
million--with no repayment requirements--for stream restoration and 
protection.
    <bullet> The largest single expense identified in the Collaboration 
Strategy is the cost of wastewater infrastructure. This reflects the 
national situation; Ohio has collected documentation to support an 
estimate for State needs in 2004 of more than $12.9 billion, an 
increase of 50 percent from the last survey in 2000. Approximately $6.9 
billion of that amount is for combined sewer overflows.
    Currently, the States provide a 20 percent non-federal match for 
the capitalization grants which fund the State Revolving Loan Funds. 
The States strongly support the $2 billion national funding level 
recommended in the Great Lakes Collaboration Implementation Act for FY 
2007, and stand ready to provide the necessary non-federal match. In 
addition, it should be noted that local governments ultimately bear the 
cost of wastewater infrastructure. Although the SRF program provides 
great assistance via loans at less than market rate, they are loans 
nonetheless and are repaid by local governments and their ratepayers. 
In Ohio alone, we estimate the cost of eliminating sewer overflows 
within the Lake Erie basin at $3 billion.
    These are only a few examples of State and local spending on the 
Great Lakes. The GAO has reported that the States currently outspend 
the Federal Government on Great Lakes programs by a wide margin. The 
Great Lakes States administer 51 programs funding restoration in the 
Great Lakes Basin. A Policy Solutions, Ltd. report prepared for the 
Council of Great Lakes Governors in 2004 showed that the Great Lakes 
States reported spending a total of $4,963,235,314 for restoration from 
FY92-04 in multi-year funding programs. In addition to this spending 
that is directed through multi-year funding programs, the Great Lakes 
States spend an estimated $24,945,260 annually on other programs in 
support of the Governors' nine priorities for restoration and 
protection. For more information, the complete report is available 
online at http://cglg.org/projects/priorities/PolicySolutionsReport12-
10-04.pdf

    Question 2. The near-term actions outlined by the Council of Great 
Lakes Governors and the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative 
in a letter sent to the President on December 12, 2005 and the near-
term actions developed by the Administration are inconsistent. Given 
the discrepancies in these near-term action items, how can we make sure 
that the goal of better coordination is met?
    Response. To ensure better coordination, the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration and the Federal Interagency Task Force should be made 
permanent in law so that lines of communication can remain open through 
these important avenues. Although the Collaboration Executive Committee 
and the Federal Interagency Task Force have not reached complete 
agreement, they have proven to be valuable means of exploring issues.
    The Great Lakes Governors favor the adoption of a collective 
problem solving model. Political leadership as represented on the 
Executive Committee of the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration should 
set interim goals for addressing the items outlined in the Great Lakes 
Strategy. Technical experts from all levels of government should work 
together to create plans to meet each of those goals, and then work 
with Congress, State legislatures, Tribal and municipal governments, 
and the private sector to obtain funding to carry out the plans.
    One reason that the near-term action items developed by the Federal 
agencies differ from those of the other Collaboration partners is that 
those agencies cannot by law advocate for increased funding before 
Congress, and through the Federal Interagency Task Force they have 
chosen to focus on the use of existing resources. As we stated in our 
November 1 letter to the Administration, the Great Lakes Governors 
share the goal of accomplishing greater results with existing 
resources. We also share the overwhelming view of our Collaboration 
partners that Federal resources must be increased in the FY 2007 budget 
to better restore and protect Great Lakes. Therefore, in the near-term, 
we call on Congress to help fund the near-term action items outlined by 
the Great Lakes Governors and Mayors in our December 12, 2005 letter to 
the President.

    Question 3. Please provide documentation detailing the roles of the 
States and local authorities and their contributions to this 
restoration process, including funding each will provide to meet the 
objectives outlined in the restoration strategy.
    Response. Invasive Species.--The State of Ohio has authority under 
State law to restrict importing, exporting, selling and possession of 
injurious species. Ohio completed an aquatic nuisance species plan in 
1997 which is now under revision. We have been unable to meet many of 
the goals under the plan due to a lack of funding. Most States rely on 
the funding authorized under NAISA to fund invasive species programs.
    The States estimate that they are devoting more than $3.5 million 
annually to the control and prevention of invasive species in the Great 
Lakes. Industry and municipalities in the Great Lakes basin spend 
roughly $70 million annually on removing zebra mussels from water 
intakes.
    Coastal Health.--The authority to control Combined Sewer Overflows 
and Sanitary Sewer Overflows (CSOs and SSOs) comes from the delegated 
permitting authorities to the States in the Clean Water Act. 
Elimination of sewage overflows to the Great Lakes and their 
tributaries is a region-wide need and the most direct means of 
improving coastal health.
    In Ohio's Lake Erie basin, there are 35 small communities (less 
than one million gallons per day treatment plant) with CSOs and 29 
large communities (more than one million gallons a day treatment plant) 
with CSOs. Each of these 64 communities will invest significant 
infrastructure funding (totaling billions) over the next 15 to 20 years 
to meet the requirements of their Long Term Control Plans to address 
this source of discharges to the Lake Erie basin. At this time, we do 
not have a precise total for this list of communities.
    The State of Ohio Lake Erie Protection Fund is currently providing 
nearly $150,000 for research into fecal contamination at beaches. The 
Ohio Water Development Authority is currently providing $335,000 for 
research into fecal contamination at beaches.
    Areas of Concern/Contaminated Sediment.--Areas of Concern (AOC) are 
the most polluted rivers and bays around the Great Lakes where the 
objectives of the bi-national Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement 
(Agreement) are not being met. These sites were proposed by the States 
and identified as such by the International Joint Commission in 1985. 
The 1987 amendments to the Agreement call for the preparation of 
Remedial Action Plans (RAP) for each of the AOCs that look at all 
components of the ecosystem. Each plan was to include an assessment of 
the environmental problems and their causes, an evaluation of remedial 
measures already in place as well identification of the additional 
remedial actions needed, implementation of those actions, and 
monitoring to ensure that the remedial actions had restored the AOC. 
The Agreement further stated that the Federal Government would 
cooperate with State governments to develop RAPs and ensure the active 
involvement of the public. The Great Lakes Critical Programs Act of 
1990 amended the Clean Water Act to include the development of RAPs. In 
most AOCs, either local coordinating committees or public advisory 
committees were established to work with the States to implement the 
RAP program. This is important to note because many of the actions 
needed to restore the AOCs must be implemented by local agencies or by 
raising public awareness to voluntarily adopt more environmentally 
friendly behaviors in day to day actions.
    Throughout the history of the RAP program, some level of Federal 
funding has been available to assist the State and local agencies in 
planning and implementing RAP program remedial actions. This funding 
was authorized under Section 104 (b)(3) of the Clean Water Act. This 
amount has fluctuated widely, but largely funded critical staff support 
and smaller remedial actions. The States and local RAP committees have 
relied on pursuing grants from a number of Federal and State programs, 
with the local committees also obtaining support from private 
foundations, dues, donations and fundraising activities. No long-term 
records have been kept reflecting how much funding has been Federal, 
State or local, but this ratio would vary greatly from State to State 
as well as RAP to RAP. However, most Federal or State grants require 
anywhere from a 5 percent to 50 percent local match which is often 
provided by the local community. The value of volunteer participation 
cannot even begin to be estimated.
    The Great Lakes Critical Programs Act also authorized a program to 
begin assessment and remediation of contaminated sediments. Through 
this effort, the extent of sediment contamination was identified along 
with the need for a focused, dedicated program to direct remediation. 
This led to the passage of the Great Lakes Legacy Act in 2002, which 
carried at least a 65/35 Federal/local cost-share requirement. To date, 
four projects are underway or completed at a cost of $42 million 
Federal and $34.2 million state/local match.
    Toxics.--A main focus of the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement is 
the reduction or virtual elimination of toxic substances. The Clean 
Water Act holds a similar goal. The main program to regulate point 
source discharges of pollutants is the National Pollutant Discharge 
Elimination System (NPDES) program. Authority for implementation of 
this program has been delegated to the States from U.S. EPA. The Great 
Lakes Critical Programs Act of 1990 amended Section 118 of the Clean 
Water Act to devise water quality guidance for the Great Lakes system 
that conformed to the objectives and provisions of the Great Lakes 
Water Quality Agreement. Known as the GLI (Great Lakes Initiative), the 
initiative provided guidance to the Great Lakes States to develop 
minimum water quality standards, anti-degradation policies and 
implementation procedures to further restrict release of persistent 
toxic substances and their impacts on human health, aquatic life and 
wildlife. Efforts to ensure enforcement of these standards in NPDES 
permits are ongoing. As an example of the state/local commitment, Ohio 
invested over $1 million to follow the GLI and adopt the revised water 
quality standards and associated policies. Each local permitted 
facility had to revise treatment efforts or monitoring requirements to 
meet the new discharge standards.
    The requirements of the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement also 
led to the development of the Bi-national Toxics Strategy. The United 
States, Canada, States and Provinces worked to devise efforts to reduce 
the presence and discharge of persistent bioaccumulative substances. 
Mercury and PCB are high on the list, and efforts are focused on 
controlling discharge (the discharge of PCBs is banned) as well as 
sponsoring recycling efforts on a household and industry basis to 
collect and dispose of equipment or items that contain these 
substances.
    Nonpoint Source Pollution.--The authorities for the States to 
control nonpoint source pollution comes the Section 319 program in the 
Clean Water Act. In addition, there are a variety of State and local 
authorities depending on the jurisdiction. The Section 319 program 
provides grants to the States and requires a state/local match of 40 
percent. The States provide some of the match with the remainder 
provided by the local projects receiving grant funding.
    Section 319 Program: Ohio receives approximately $6 million in 
Federal funds from the Section 319 program and matches this grant with 
$4 million (approximately $1 million from the State of Ohio and $3 
million from local entities). Each year the amount directed towards 
projects in the Lake Erie basin varies depending on the local projects. 
Approximately 20 percent of the Ohio Section 319 program is directed 
towards projects in the Lake Erie basin.
    Conservation Reserve: Through the Lake Erie Conservation 
Enhancement Program (CREP), Ohio has a goal to enroll 67,000 acres in 
conservation practices over a 10-year period. As of March, 2005, 34 
percent of this goal was realized. An investment of nearly $6 million 
in State funds has helped generate nearly $15 million in in-kind 
contributions. Projects include 1,800 acres of wetland restoration; 
14,300 acres of filter strips; 1,500 acres of riparian forest buffers; 
and 1,500 acres of field windbreaks.
    Watershed Coordinators: Ohio EPA and ODNR have jointly created the 
Watershed Coordinator Grant Program, through which full time watershed 
coordinators are working to develop and implement watershed action 
plans in the Maumee River, Duck and Otter Creeks, the Sandusky River, 
Euclid Creek, the Grand River, and the Chagrin River watershed. State 
and local resources contribute approximately half the annual $240,000 
cost of the program.
    Soil and Water Conservation Districts: The State provides 
approximately $4 million in matching funds annually to the Soil and 
Water Conservation Districts in the Lake Erie Basin. They assist 
landowners with conservation practices, and provide community education 
regarding soil erosion prevention and water management.
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  Responses by Bob Taft to Additional Questions from Senator Jeffords
    Question 1. Governor Taft, can you describe the effect that the 
significant budget cuts in clean water spending proposed by the 
President will have on your State's ability to meet water 
infrastructure needs?
    Response. In FFY 2004, Congress provided $1.35 billion nationally 
to capitalize the State Revolving Loan Fund (SRF). Funding levels have 
been dropping since that time. For Ohio, the proposed funding level in 
the President's FFY 2007 budget equates to an almost 50 percent 
reduction over the FFY 2004 level.
    Specifically for FFY 2007, the President's proposed budget would 
result in $37.2 million reduction in Federal support for the SRF. For 
2007 alone, including interest the toal loss to the program would be 
over $50 million. Since Ohio expands its funding capacity by issuing 
bonds based on the Federal dollars provided, we lose $2 to $3 for every 
dollar cut. Therefore, the total loss in SRF leveraging capacity of 
$100 million to $150 million per year.
    Over the past several years, as a result of our leveraging of 
funds, Ohio's SRF program has been able to fund all projects requested 
by local governments. Due to reduced capitalization levels, we will no 
longer be able to do so. In 2007, we expect to reduce our available 
funding by approximately $200 million a year due to recent 
capitalization trends. We will also likely limit the amount larger 
communities can borrow to a small fraction of their requests, and we 
expect to run out of funding before all projects are funded.

    Question 2. Governor Taft, do you have any comments on the 
effectiveness of EPA programs for assistance to the States and Tribes 
for water quality issues?
    Response. Ohio generally concurs with the findings of the April 
2003 ``GAO Report on the Great Lakes--An Overall Strategy and 
Indicators for Measuring Progress.'' While U.S. EPA has a number of 
programs designed specifically to address a particular environmental 
issue (regulating point source discharge, reducing nonpoint source 
pollution, watershed planning, Superfund cleanups, remediation at 
hazardous waste sites, monitoring, Total Maximum Daily Load studies, 
etc.) there is no overarching plan to tie together those strategies and 
program activities to attain and measure any large scale ecosystem 
restoration.
    Programs that provide funding assistance to States often compete 
against each other to obtain a slightly different goal. An example is 
the requirements under Section 303(d)(1)(A) of the Clean water Act 
(focused on determining and reducing critical loadings), guidance to 
develop watershed plans under Section 319 of the Clean Water Act (focus 
on nonpoint sources), the development of Remedial Action Plans to 
provide an ecosystem approach to restoring the Great Lakes Areas of 
Concern, and the development of Lakewide Management Plans (LaMPs) to 
address each Great Lake. All of these programs have the same goal of 
attaining fishable, drinkable and swimmable conditions in all water 
bodies, but they are just different enough to require totally separate 
administrative and implementation structures. The requirement of many 
Federal grant programs to be bid competitively does not always allow 
for the funding of the highest priority projects that might make the 
most measurable difference.
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  Responses by Bob Taft to Additional Questions from Senator Voinovich
    Question 1. How much funding are the States contributing to Great 
Lakes restoration?
    Response. The GAO has reported that the States currently outspend 
the Federal Government on Great Lakes programs by a wide margin. The 
Great Lakes States administer 51 programs funding restoration in the 
Great Lakes Basin. A Policy Solutions, Ltd. report prepared for the 
Council of Great Lakes Governors in 2004 showed that the Great Lakes 
States reported spending a total of $4,963,235,314 for restoration from 
FY92-04 in multi-year funding programs. In addition to this spending 
that is directed through multi-year funding programs, the Great Lakes 
States spend an estimated $24,945,260 annually on other programs in 
support of the Governors' nine priorities for restoration and 
protection. For more information, the complete report is available 
online at http://cglg.org/projects/priorities/PolicySolutionsReport12-
10-04.pdf

    Question 2. How can we better coordinate this massive restoration 
effort? How can we better coordinate Great Lakes programs at all levels 
of government so that we are more efficient and effective?
    Response. To ensure better coordination, the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration and the Federal Interagency Task Force should be made 
permanent in law so that lines of communication can remain open through 
these important avenues. Although the Collaboration Executive Committee 
and the Federal Interagency Task Force have not reached complete 
agreement, they have proven to be valuable means of exploring issues.
    The Great Lakes Governors favor the adoption of a collective 
problem solving model. Political leadership should set interim goals 
for addressing the items outlined in the Great Lakes Strategy. 
Technical experts from all levels of government should work together to 
create plans to meet each of those goals, and then work with Congress, 
State legislatures, Tribal and municipal governments, and the private 
sector to obtain funding to carry out the plans.

    Question 3. What can the states do to raise the profile of this 
restoration effort beyond the region?
    Response. The Executive Committee of the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration, on which the States are represented, is currently 
developing a communications strategy to publicize about the need for 
restoration of the Great Lakes ecosystem. There are several key 
audiences for this information:
    <bullet> Elected representatives at all levels of government from 
the Great Lakes States. State legislatures in particular may be asked 
to support funding for Great Lakes priorities. In Ohio, approximately 
one-third of the State lies in the Lake Erie basin, so it will be 
important to convey the significance of Great Lakes restoration to 
legislators from downstate areas.
    <bullet> Members of Congress from States outside the Great Lakes 
basin. It will not be possible to pass a Restoration bill without 
support from a broad array of Congressional representatives. It will be 
important to convey the national significance, indeed the global 
importance, of the Great Lakes.
    <bullet> There are many professional organizations of environmental 
professionals. The directors of State environmental agencies 
communicate with one another through the Environmental Council of 
States (ECOS). The heads of drinking water programs, those involved in 
wastewater treatment, and managers of State Revolving Loan Funds have 
similar organizations. Comprising leaders in environmental protection 
and restoration, these groups can be an important conduit for building 
support for restoration of the Great Lakes.
    <bullet> Many nongovernmental organizations are participating in 
the Collaboration. The Executive Committee has committed to ongoing 
public participation, including continuing to engage these groups, some 
of which are national in scope.
    <bullet> The environmental NGOs in particular have organized 
through the Healing Our Waters Coalition. HOW is contracting with a 
public relations firm to help develop communications materials; the 
Executive Committee will coordinate its own plan with the HOW effort.

    Question 4. What is the relationship between this restoration 
effort and the States' Great Lakes Protection Fund?
    Response. The Governors of the Great Lakes States created the 
Protection Fund in 1989. Its mission is to support efforts that 
identify, demonstrate, and promote regional action to restore the 
health of the Great Lakes basin ecosystem. This private corporation was 
created to supplement the restoration activities of government 
entities, and every year supports approximately $3 million of new 
projects. Since it was incorporated, the Fund has provided over $46 
million to support efforts that identify restoration opportunities and 
design regionally relevant restoration actions. Since the release of 
the Governors' nine priorities in October 2003, the Fund has focused 
its support on efforts that support their priorities. These investments 
develop and test the best ways to meet the Governors' shared priorities 
for Great Lakes restoration, which also formed the organizing principle 
of the Collaboration Strategy.
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Aquatic Invasive Species:............................       $6.0 million
Habitat/Species:.....................................       $7.1 million
Coastal (Human) Health:..............................       $5.0 million
AOC/Sediments:.......................................       $2.0 million
Nonpoint Source (and Water Resources):...............       $9.8 million
Toxic Pollutants:....................................      $10.4 million
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    Among other things, Fund grantees have:
    <bullet> Designed and tested ship-board methods to reduce the 
threat of exotic species,
    <bullet> Evaluated technologies to stop the spread of invasive 
species through canals,
    <bullet> Created and offered training to boat operators to contain 
spread invasive species,
    <bullet> Designed and tested methods to restore wetlands, buffers, 
and hydrologic integrity of basin streams,
    <bullet> Identified key habitat management and restoration 
locations,
    <bullet> Provided technical assistance to the clean-up of Areas of 
Concern,
    <bullet> Developed new, farmer-friendly, nutrient and pesticide 
management approaches,
    <bullet> Tested watershed restoration strategies in urban settings, 
and
    <bullet> Identified important sources of toxic materials entering 
the Great Lakes.
    The Fund has also returned over $34 million directly to its member 
states for use in support of their individual Great Lakes priorities.
    Going forward, the Protection Fund hopes to support teams that 
develop and test new ways to finance the State and local share of the 
priority work contemplated by the Strategy. At a minimum, some nine 
billion dollars will need to be raised by State and local governments. 
While the Fund cannot pay for those public works projects or other 
activity that remains a responsibility of government, it can and will 
help test new financing strategies. To date, the Fund has invested some 
$6.3 million in using markets to support environmental restoration. The 
Fund expects to make significant new investments in this area over the 
next year.
    For further information on current projects, see www.glpf.org
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    Responses by Bob Taft to Additional Questions from Senator Obama
    Question 1. How would your respective organizations want the Task 
Force to incorporate governors and tribal leaders in future decision 
making? Do you believe that non-federal stakeholders need to be given a 
more formal role?
    Response. The Federal Interagency Task Force was charged by 
President Bush with the task of better coordinating the 140 Federal 
programs that impact the Great Lakes. The non-federal partners in the 
Collaboration believe that the Task Force has made some strides in that 
direction, but that much more can and should be done. We would like to 
see the Task Force first review priority needs in the Basin, and then 
evaluate how Federal programs can be used in a coordinated fashion to 
address them. Too often, the Federal Government begins with an 
inventory of its programs, and then looks for projects those programs 
can take on. Given the nature of the Task Force's mandate, the non-
federal partners believe the Federal agencies are best positioned to 
coordinate their own programs. That said, we strongly urge the Task 
Force to work more cooperatively both among its Federal members and 
with the other members of the Collaboration toward effective 
coordination of programs.
    The Executive Committee of the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration 
includes representation of the Federal Interagency Task Force, the 
Great Lakes Governors, the Great Lakes Mayors, the Tribes, and the 
Congressional delegation. This group guided the preparation of the 
Collaboration Strategy, and has adopted a framework for its continued 
leadership of the Collaboration process.

    Question 2. What are your organizations' plans to coordinate future 
restoration efforts across the region?
    Response. The Executive Committee of the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration is currently working to identify specific collaborative 
projects through which the members can cooperatively move forward 
toward the goals in the Collaboration Strategy. The Executive Committee 
is specifically interested in projects that can be accomplished within 
existing resources over the next 2 years. While the non-federal members 
of the Collaboration concur that substantial additional investment will 
be needed to fully protect and restore the Great Lakes, we are also 
committed to making better use of existing resources, and to taking 
prompt action to begin implementing the Strategy's recommendations.
    In addition, the Great Lakes Governors, through the Council of 
Great Lakes Governors, have formed the Governors' Priorities Task Force 
to coordinate restoration and protection efforts among the States. This 
Task Force developed the priorities that guided the Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration and provides a forum for information sharing, 
communication and coordination among the States. This Task Force will 
continue to serve as a venue for State policymakers and technical 
experts to advance Great Lakes restoration and protection.
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 Statement of Frank Ettawageshik, Tribal Chairman, Little Traverse Bay 
                         Bands of Odawa Indians
    Mr. Chairman and Members of the committee, my name is Frank 
Ettawageshik, Tribal Chairman of the Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa 
Indians.
    I am here today with the humbling task of speaking on behalf of the 
ad hoc Tribal Caucus of the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration. I am 
honored by the faith and trust that the Tribal Caucus has placed in me 
to express perspectives and sentiments that speak to: (i) the important 
role that Tribal Nations play in the Collaboration and (ii) how the 
Collaboration Strategy might be implemented in way that not only will 
achieve its ultimate goal of protecting and restoring Great Lakes 
ecosystems, but that also is faithful to this Nation's treaty 
obligations and trust responsibilities toward Tribal communities.
    The Tribal Caucus has coordinated Tribal participation under the 
Collaboration's Framework Agreement on the Executive Committee and on 
the various Strategy Teams. It will continue this role under the 
recently approved Strategy Implementation Agreement. In providing the 
Tribal Caucus's voice today in the context of its coordinating role, I 
do not presume to officially represent any particular Tribal government 
or Tribal governing body beyond that voice.
    The Collaboration's Strategy to Restore and Protect the Great Lakes 
exemplifies the region coming together to support protection and 
restoration of the Great Lakes. The Collaboration partners and the 
Great Lakes stakeholder community can be proud of this unified effort. 
The Strategy is not an all encompassing solution to Great Lakes' 
problems. Nevertheless, its priorities and recommendations create an 
effective blueprint worthy of the political, economic and community 
commitment that will be necessary to realize its vision. It must be 
used as the guide to make correct fiscal and substantive policy 
decisions by all levels of government, by the private sector and by 
households throughout the Great Lakes Basin.
          i. summary of overriding tribal caucus perspectives
    At the outset, I wish to highlight some primary points from the 
Tribal Caucus's perspective. The remainder of my testimony then 
provides background information and additional detail to support these 
points:

        <bullet>  The Framework Agreement recognized Tribal issues and 
        perspectives as an overarching issue for an important reason--
        for the over 35 Tribal Nations on the United States side of the 
        Great Lakes Basin, ecological sustainability and Tribal 
        sustainability go hand in hand. The same is true for our 
        relative First Nations in Canada. Tribal communities are 
        intricately tied to the natural environment to meet their 
        subsistence, economic, cultural, spiritual and medicinal needs. 
        This interdependent and reciprocal relationship between humans 
        and the rest of nature will not endure if natural resources are 
        too scarce, too contaminated or too degraded to meet Tribal 
        needs and support Tribal culture.
        <bullet>  The Tribal Caucus is very pleased that the Strategy 
        aligns so well with the values, traditions, and needs of Tribal 
        communities. We all can be very proud that the Great Lakes 
        region answered President Bush's call to set forth a consensus-
        based, action-oriented Strategy for preserving and restoring 
        Great Lakes ecosystems. The Collaboration represents an 
        unprecedented alignment ofpriorities and guiding principles 
        among Tribal Nations, States, cities, industry and business, 
        non-governmental organizations, and everyday citizens.
        <bullet>  The needs of the Great Lakes and the Collaboration's 
        action plan to address them truly represent both a national and 
        an international imperative. As the Strategy clearly 
        demonstrates, the benefits flowing from Great Lakes ecological 
        sustainability in harmony with economic vitality extend to the 
        rest of our Nation and across our borders. Moreover, from the 
        unique aspect of the United States' relationships with Tribal 
        Nations, furthering the goals of the Strategy through funding 
        of Tribal environmental and natural resource programs fulfills 
        specific national obligations and policies embodied in:

                <bullet>  Treaty obligations under various treaties 
                between the Federal Government and Great Lakes Tribal 
                Nations.
                <bullet>  The Federal trust responsibility toward 
                Tribal Nations.
                <bullet>  Numerous Executive orders and statutes, such 
                as the Indian Self-Determination and Educational 
                Assistance Act, the Clean Water, and the Clean Air Act.
                <bullet>  Various court decisions affirming the treaty 
                and other reserved rights of Great Lakes Tribal 
                Nations.

        <bullet>  The Strategy is a sound and effective blueprint for 
        better focused and more efficient programs to address its 
        priorities, yet we must be vigilant in implementation to not 
        oversimplify the nature and extent of the ecological 
        imperatives we face or the programs and actions that must be 
        undertaken to address them. The Tribal Caucus recognizes the 
        need to prioritize immediate actions and budgetary commitments 
        as we begin to implement the Strategy. However, we are 
        concerned that even further shortening of the list of 
        priorities contained in the Strategy, simply for the sake of 
        improved program efficiencies or cost savings, will short-
        change what needs to be done. We must keep in mind a number of 
        key points as we proceed with implementation:
        <bullet>  The Great Lakes region is comprised of a number of 
        complex and diverse ecosystems. There is a risk of over-
        portraying the Great Lakes as a single ecosystem. Creating a 
        ``short list'' of priority actions carries the associated risk 
        of abandoning or undercutting currently successful programs, 
        such as the lakewide management planning efforts. It also 
        creates a risk of proceeding on a ``least common denominator'' 
        basis or on a pared down list of actions developed for 
        immediate political expediency.
        <bullet>  The Tribal Caucus is sensitive to this Nation's 
        current fiscal and budgetary climate. Tribal Nations face many 
        of the same dilemmas as others in this regard. Nevertheless, we 
        must not sacrifice our ability to achieve the Strategy's goals 
        under the guise of trying to achieve ``more bang for the 
        buck.'' Ours is a Nation of vast financial wealth and 
        resources. Great Lakes protection and restoration clearly falls 
        within primary governmental functions at all levels. The 
        political will to make correct budgetary and substantive policy 
        decisions must be nurtured. The correct decisions will lead to 
        the appropriate application of our Nation's wealth and 
        associated actions to the task at hand.
        <bullet>  The Federal Government must maintain a leadership 
        role in setting the appropriate tone and taking the appropriate 
        actions in response to this unprecedented Strategy. We are 
        encouraged by the significant commitments and actions already 
        undertaken by other Collaboration partners--Tribal, State and 
        local governments, industry and business, non-governmental 
        organizations and everyday citizens. We are witnessing an 
        amazing momentum and confluence of energy among all 
        Collaboration partners to make good decisions and significant 
        financial commitments from tight budgets. We ask Congress and 
        the Administration to do its part as well.
        <bullet>  The Federal Government plays an important role in 
        ensuring the continuing capabilities of Tribal natural resource 
        and environmental management programs. Those programs are 
        particularly vulnerable to budget reductions. Any reduction in 
        funding for a Tribal program, even a reduction that would be 
        considered small by others, could result in the elimination of 
        that program. In some cases, simply losing funding for a single 
        Tribal staff member can eliminate or significantly reduce the 
        ability of a Tribal Nation or Tribal agency to hold up their 
        end of the bargain relating to the protection or restoration of 
        Great Lakes ecosystems.
        <bullet>  The Strategy goes a long way to identify actions that 
        can be undertaken to progress toward better-protected and more-
        restored Great Lakes ecosystems. Nevertheless, we can and 
        should do more whenever possible. For example, the Tribal 
        Caucus would like to see a more aggressive schedule for 
        reducing mercury emissions from coal-fired utility plants. 
        Moreover, there are other areas where the Tribal Caucus would 
        like to see a more rapid and effective response to compelling 
        problems, such as the control of invasive species through the 
        implementation of more effective ballast water controls both 
        under existing Clean Water Act authority and under new 
        legislation.

    The Tribal Caucus appreciates the committee's sensitivity toward 
and consideration of these perspectives. The other Collaboration 
partners have been particularly welcoming and supportive of Tribal 
concerns. The Collaboration has engendered mutual trust and respect 
among those interested in advancing Great Lakes protection and 
restoration. The Great Lakes Tribal Nations remain committed to that 
end, and will support and advance both the terms and the spirit of the 
Strategy wherever and whenever possible. They trust that Congress and 
the other partners involved will do the same.
                  ii. tribes of the great lakes basin
    The United States portion of the Great Lakes Basin is home to over 
35 federally recognized Indian Tribal Nations who, although distinct 
and unique in their own right, have common history, culture and 
traditions, especially in their relationship to the natural environment 
and dependence on natural resources for subsistence, economic, 
cultural, spiritual and medicinal purposes.\1\
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    \1\ For additional background on the culture and history of Great 
Lakes Tribal Nations and their relationship to the natural environment, 
the following documents from the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration 
Appendix are attached and incorporated by reference: (1) Tribal Nations 
Issue and Perspectives; (2) Haudenosaunee Environmental Task Force 
Position on the Great Lakes.
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    Great Lakes Tribal Nations have historical, spiritual and cultural 
roots in the Great Lakes Basin stretching from time immemorial. Tribal 
Nations continue to occupy and use their ancestral homelands with a 
notion of geographic place that embodies views of their origin, 
migrations and historical identity, the way Tribal cultural reality is 
perceived in the modern world, and the social and political means to 
partitioning and distributing resources. These connections between 
Tribal Nations and the Great Lakes are evident in the willingness to 
accept the responsibility of restoring and protecting the Great Lakes.
    Tribal Nations understand that the whole earth is an interconnected 
ecosystem. The health of any one part is related to the health of the 
whole. Tribal Nations have a spiritual and cultural responsibility to 
protect the waters of the Great Lakes as part of a greater overall 
effort to protect Mother Earth.
    For Tribal Nations of the Great Lakes Basin, ecological 
sustainability and Tribal sustainability go hand in hand. Tribal 
Nations recognize the reciprocal relationship between humans and the 
rest of the natural world. Religious beliefs, including a spiritual 
interdependence and connection between all living and non-living 
things, guides Tribal members in the harvest and use of natural 
resources for subsistence, ceremonial, medicinal, ceremonial, spiritual 
or economic purposes.
    The use of traditional foods is uniquely beneficial for members of 
Great Lakes Tribal Nations, including:
        <bullet>  the improvement of diet and nutrient intake;
        <bullet>  the prevention of chronic diseases associated with 
        the consumption of non-traditional foods;
        <bullet>  the opportunities for physical fitness and outdoor 
        activities associated with harvesting traditional foods;
        <bullet>  the opportunity to experience, learn, and promote 
        cultural activities; and
        <bullet>  the opportunity to develop personal qualities desired 
        in Tribal culture such as sharing, self-respect, pride, self-
        confidence, patience, humility and spirituality.
    For Tribal Nations of the Great Lakes Basin and their members, the 
relationship to the natural environment, especially the Great Lakes, 
and dependence on natural resources for subsistence, economic, 
cultural, spiritual and medicinal purposes means little if there are 
insufficient resources, or if the available resources are contaminated 
or degraded to the point that they are unusable. It is important to 
remember the health benefits of traditional foods are quickly 
outweighed by the risks posed by the contaminants contained therein. 
For Tribal members ``food security'' means having traditional food 
sources that are both sufficient and free from contaminants.
iii. environmental and natural resource programs of great lakes tribal 
                      nations and tribal agencies
    In light of the importance of the Great Lakes to Tribal Nations 
within the basin, many Tribal Nations and several intertribal agencies 
engage in a diversity of significant environmental and natural resource 
management programs that are consistent with the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration Strategy. The nature of the programs of each particular 
Nation or agency is contingent on the funding available and the needs 
or priorities of the community involved. With regard to the 
relationship between funding and these programs:
        <bullet>  Important Federal funding sources for Tribal programs 
        include:

                <bullet>  Bureau of Indian Affairs funds provided 
                pursuant to the Indian Self-Determination and 
                Educational Assistance Act;
                <bullet>  United States Fish and Wildlife Service funds 
                provided under a variety of project-specific 
                authorizations; and
                <bullet>  Environmental Protection Agency funds 
                provided under the Clean Water Act, the Clean Air Act, 
                the Tribal General Assistance Program, and other 
                authorizations.

        <bullet>  Discretionary revenue generated from Tribal economic 
        enterprises serves to supplement Federal and other funding for 
        these programs for some Tribal Nations.
        <bullet>  Because of the myriad of funding paths for Tribal 
        environmental and natural resource programs, individual Tribes 
        must ensure their ability to pursue their own funding path and 
        work with whatever resources are available to them.

        <bullet>  Since Tribal environmental and natural resource 
        management programs are particularly vulnerable to budget 
        reductions, any reduction in funding for a Tribal program, even 
        a reduction that would be considered small by others, could 
        result in the elimination of that program. In some cases, 
        simply losing funding for a single Tribal staff member can 
        eliminate or significantly reduce the ability of a Tribal 
        Nation or Tribal agency to hold up their end of the bargain 
        relating to the protection or restoration of the Great Lakes 
        ecosystem.
    The Strategy recognizes that maintaining base level funding for 
Tribal programs is necessary so that Tribal Nations are able to both 
provide for the health and welfare of their communities and so that 
Tribal Nations can remain effective partners in Great Lakes protection 
and restoration efforts. Despite their fiscal and staffing limitations, 
Tribal Nations and their agencies are particularly efficient delivery 
systems for environmental and natural resource programs. More 
importantly, they often provide the only delivery mechanism of such 
programs for Tribal members. Tribal Nations need to provide services, 
such as fish contaminant testing and consumption advisories focused on 
the specific waters fished by Tribal members, because no other 
government or agency does so in such a focused manner. Tribal members 
need to know which fish are safer to eat from the waters that they 
fish. Generalized fish consumption advisories do not accomplish this.
    In addition to the value of Tribal environmental and natural 
resource programs to Tribal members, there are significant overall 
public benefits that result from Tribal programs. If Tribal Nations 
fulfill their responsibilities toward Tribal members, benefits will 
flow to Federal, State and local governments, their constituents and 
surrounding communities. These benefits include enhanced water quality, 
increased numbers of fish with reduced levels of contaminants, improved 
aquatic, wetland and upland habitat, and protection from invasive 
species, as well as numerous others.
    Depending on the availability of funding and the extent of the 
particular governmental infrastructure, efforts Great Lakes Tribal 
Nations undertake in their role as partners in the protection and 
restoration of the Great Lakes ecosystem include:
    <bullet> Operation of fish hatcheries and involvement in a variety 
of fish stocking programs in the Great Lakes.
    <bullet> Harvest management, monitoring and regulation for a 
variety of fish, plant and animal species within the basin.
    <bullet> Development of natural resource management plans and 
conservation codes.
    <bullet> Population studies and assessments for a variety of fish, 
plant and animal species within the basin, including lake trout 
studies.
    <bullet> Monitoring and restoring water quality of Great Lakes 
tributary streams and rivers through development of watershed 
management plans, repair of road and stream crossings, stream bank 
stabilization, habitat inventories, invertebrate surveys and fish 
assessments.
    <bullet> Participation in joint efforts to protect Great Lakes 
tributary waters by placing watershed land in conservation easement 
status.
    <bullet> Adoption of burn barrel ordinances and initiation of burn 
barrel outreach and elimination programs.
    <bullet> Habitat enhancement within the basin for various plants, 
fish and animal species including wetland protection and restoration as 
part of the Circle of Flight initiative in conjunction with the United 
States Fish and Wildlife Service.
    <bullet> Exotic species control including work in conjunction with 
the United States Fish and Wildlife Service to control and reduce sea 
lamprey populations.
    <bullet> Voluntary efforts to reduce the presence of mercury by 
providing thermometer exchanges, cleaning up household hazardous waste 
and progressing toward making Tribal facilities mercury free.
    <bullet> Research projects and fish consumption advisories, based 
largely on sampling of fish or other traditional foods, to help prevent 
contamination of natural resources and to help Tribal members maximize 
the health benefits from a traditional diet.
    <bullet> Incorporation of alternative energy technologies and 
incorporation of energy conservation measures in new construction.
    <bullet> Establishment of household and agricultural waste disposal 
depots.
    <bullet> Conducting public information and education activities.
    Many of the programs just mentioned are the result of Tribal 
Nations or Tribal agencies partnering with Federal, State and local 
governments, colleges and universities, non-governmental organizations, 
conservation groups and private landowners in cooperative efforts to 
protect and restore the Great Lakes Ecosystem. Such partnerships are 
necessary for several reasons:
    <bullet> Because treaty rights often extend to areas of shared 
jurisdiction and use, other governments are compelled, whether legally 
or practically, to acknowledge the rights and associated self-
regulatory systems and to integrate Tribal Nations as natural resource 
management partners.
    <bullet> When dealing with fish and wildlife, the tendency of the 
resource to migrate across governmental boundaries necessitates co-
management of the resource to ensure collection of accurate information 
on State and Tribal harvests and on the status of natural resource 
populations.
    <bullet> Pollution in air and water is transient. Contaminants 
discharged upstream or upwind directly affect those downstream and 
downwind. Cross jurisdictional partnerships help to track pollutants as 
they move and to monitor levels of contaminants in resources such as 
fish and plants.
    Importantly, inter-governmental and other partnerships allow the 
parties to achieve public benefits that no one partner could achieve 
alone. Some examples of the public benefits of these partnerships 
include:
    <bullet> Identifying mutual natural resource concerns, and 
implementing joint conservation and enhancement projects (e.g. wild 
rice restoration, waterfowl habitat restoration and improvement 
projects, and exotic species control projects).
    <bullet> Providing accurate information on State and Tribal 
harvests and on the status of natural resource populations e.g. joint 
fishery assessment activities and jointly prepared reports).
    <bullet> Maximizing financial resources to avoid duplication of 
effort and costs e.g. coordinating annual fishery assessment schedules 
and sharing personnel/equipment).
    <bullet> Contributing scientific research and data regarding 
natural resources and public health (e.g. forbearer/predator research, 
fish consumption/human health studies, and other fish contaminant 
research particularly regarding mercury).
    <bullet> Engendering cooperation rather than competition (e.g. 
cooperative law enforcement and emergency response, joint training 
sessions, mutual aid emergency services arrangements, and cross-
credential agreements).
 iv. implementation of the great lakes regional collaboration strategy
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Executive Committee recently 
approved the Strategy Implementation Framework to guide implementation 
of the Strategy and to define the continuing role of the Collaboration. 
The Framework sets forth a process to ensure ongoing coordination of 
activities promoting the goals and priorities of the Strategy. A 
continuing commitment to implementation of the Strategy through the 
efforts of the Collaboration partners is important to advance the 
Strategy's goals of protecting and restoring the Great Lakes.
    When viewed through the lens focused on protection and restoration, 
the needs of the Great Lakes are many and diverse. The Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration Strategy aims to identify and prioritize those 
needs. It is crucial to remember, however, that the Strategy is neither 
a cure all nor an end all.
    To fully address the goal of protecting and restoring the Great 
Lakes and to ensure that important needs of the region are not left 
behind, the priorities set forth in the Strategy should serve as a 
substantive and fiscal policy decisionmaking guide for the region, but 
not an exclusive set of actions. As the Strategy is implemented by the 
partners and the greater stakeholder community, it will be important to 
follow the Strategy priorities while allowing room for parties to 
engage in programs utilizing resources and funding outside of the 
parameters of the Strategy. A program beneficial to the Great Lakes 
should not be turned away or cast aside simply because it does not fit 
into the neat box created by the Strategy.
    There has been significant pressure on the Collaboration partners 
to develop a list of ``near term'' actions to begin implementation of 
the Strategy. Consensus on ``near term'' actions has been difficult to 
reach. Regardless of any consensus on ``near term'' actions to 
implement the Strategy, protection and restoration of the Great Lakes 
cannot be oversimplified by the creation of a list.
    As the Strategy is implemented the partners must keep an eye on the 
``Big Picture.'' That is, the focus must be on addressing the 
challenges of the Great Lakes ecosystem by making the Collaboration 
greater than the sum of the particular actions carried out in its name. 
This requires the ability to look past any ``action'' lists that are 
developed and even past the specified Strategy team priorities to 
remember that, as set forth in the Strategy, the end is to protect and 
restore the Great Lakes and the means must be by whatever vehicles are 
available. Implementation must include continued support for currently 
successful programs in the region in addition to the creation of new 
programs. For Tribal Nations and their treaty ceded territory agencies 
such as the Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission (GLIFWC), 
the Chippewa Ottawa Resource Authority (CORA) and the 1854 Authority, 
at the very minimum this means continued support for existing programs.
       v. funding for environmental and natural resource programs
    As noted, the focus of implementing the Strategy needs to be on the 
``Big Picture'' goals of protection and restoration of the Great Lakes 
ecosystem. Similarly, the focus within the context of funding Great 
Lakes environmental and natural resource programs must look beyond the 
four corners of the Strategy document to ensure continued support for 
programs that may not have been specifically captured by the Strategy 
or its appendices, but that still relate directly to it or will further 
its priorities and principles. For both Tribes and the Great Lakes 
region, this means keeping all doors open when it comes to the goals of 
protection and restoration of the Great Lakes. By doing so, our 
opportunities to engage in beneficial programs are not constrained by a 
set of priorities or funding sources that are artificially limited by 
the current political or budgetary climate.
    While Tribal Nations recognize the need, from both the standpoint 
of efficiency and fiscal responsibility, to prioritize and coordinate 
programs within the region, this cannot serve as a justification or 
excuse for giving the region as a whole, and Tribal Nations in 
specific, less from a funding perspective. As these streamlining 
efforts go forward, the Federal Government's unique trust and treaty 
obligations to Tribal Nations must remain an overarching consideration 
and cannot be compromised in the process.
    The Strategy should not be used as a means to force us into a 
situation where we have to bargain against ourselves as a region or 
within the Tribal stovepipe itself to get funded as we should or even 
simply to maintain our base funding. Despite the uncertainties of the 
budgetary process, the Strategy must serve as a guide for all levels of 
government, the private sector and households throughout the Great 
Lakes Basin for making to correct fiscal and substantive policy 
decisions at every opportunity.
                             vi. conclusion
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy sets forth 
important priorities for protection and restoration of the Great Lakes. 
The collaborative effort to achieve these goals must go forward, guided 
by, but not limited by, the priorities and principles enumerated in the 
Strategy. A key to successful implementation of the Strategy, both for 
Tribal Nations and for the region, is to support and promote the spirit 
of the Strategy by whatever means possible.
    Tribal Nations and Tribal agencies are valuable partners in this 
process, providing a multitude of environmental and natural resource 
programs that efficiently deliver services to Tribal communities that 
in turn benefit surrounding communities. The need for continuing Tribal 
programs is given patent recognition by the Strategy, as is the 
coexisting need for base funding for these programs. As guided by the 
blueprint of the Strategy, Tribal Nations will and must maintain their 
ability to engage in beneficial programs notwithstanding artificial 
limitations imposed by priorities, funding sources or potential 
misguided substantive policies controlled by others.
    The Strategy provides us all with an agreed upon path to follow to 
achieve the ``Big Picture'' goal of protection and restoration of the 
Great Lakes. Now it is up to everyone, both in and outside the region, 
to build on the priorities and principles set forth in the Strategy; to 
let the Strategy be their guide for making the right choice at every 
fork in the road.

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       Response by Frank Ettawageshik to an Additional Question 
                          from Senator Inhofe
    Question. The Strategy establishes funding levels for each of its 
goals. However, there seems to be some disagreement as to who will be 
providing those funds. In your view, how much of the $20 billion in the 
Great Lakes Strategy do you expect from the Federal Government, the 
State governments and the local governments?
    Response. Tribal Nations are not in a position to determine 
particular funding responsibilities among the Federal, State and local 
governments in terms of contributions toward implementing the Great 
Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy.
    As Strategy implementation funding options are considered, the 
Federal Government has the responsibility to fund Tribal environmental 
and natural resource programs above and beyond any other commitments 
made in the name of Great Lakes protection and restoration. Congress 
must keep in mind the unique treaty commitments, statutory obligations 
and trust responsibility that the Federal Government has toward Tribal 
Nations. As called for in the Strategy, the continuing capabilities of 
Tribal natural resource and environmental management programs must be 
maintained.
    Tribal Nations will continue to provide care and stewardship for 
the Great Lakes as called for by our customs, traditions and teachings. 
We will do this each and every day, some with more governmental 
infrastructure than others, yet all with the resources and the programs 
we already have. We will work with any and all from our surrounding 
communities toward achieving the Strategy's goals.
    However, at the same time, Tribal Nations fully expect the Federal 
Government to live up to treaty obligations and trust responsibility 
for the additional financial help that is needed to fulfill the 
Strategy's vision and to undertake the actions that the Strategy 
requires. Moreover, we fully expect those who have created the 
ecological problems that we now face to accept responsibility and to 
commit the financial resources necessary to solve those problems 
without sacrificing this Nation's treaty and trust responsibility 
commitments to Tribes.
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        Responses by Frank Ettawageshik to Additional Questions 
                         from Senator Jeffords
    Question 1. Mr. Ettawageshik, do you have any comments on the 
effectiveness of EPA programs for assistance to the States and Tribes 
for water quality issues?
    Response. EPA programs and associated funding for Tribal Nations 
are essential for water quality protection both within Tribal 
reservations and outside the reservations. Tribal Nations have been 
particularly successful in combining traditional ecological knowledge 
and western science to provide leadership in water quality management 
in a number of areas such as non-point source pollution. This success 
is in large part directly attributable to the Tribally dedicated 
funding provided under EPA-administered statutes, the Indian Self 
Determination Act, the Snyder Act and miscellaneous authorizations. The 
budgetary situation for many Tribal Nations is such that any cut in 
funding, regardless of how small, will have significant impacts and 
will often result in a de facto elimination of a program.
    This type of Federal program assistance provided to Tribal Nations 
has been successful for another very important reason--Tribal 
governments are the most effective and appropriate mechanism for the 
delivery of the programs and services involved to the affected 
communities. Tribal governments are the best suited to know the needs 
of our communities consistent with underlying culture, teachings and 
traditions. We are thus best suited to operate these programs in an 
economically efficient and culturally appropriate manner that achieves 
results in the communities they are intended to benefit.

    Question 2. Mr. Ettawageshik, I found your testimony regarding 
consideration of the impact of our own decisions on our seventh-
generation descendants to be compelling. Can you provide your view of 
how we're doing in that regard with the major environmental issues of 
our time including climate change, water quality, and air quality and 
wildlife protections?
    Response. When we can walk down to the lake and drink its water and 
eat its fish without fear for our health, and see our traditional 
plants and game around us in well being and plenty, we will know 
success. We have made progress toward these ends, but we are not there 
yet.
    When the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy was released 
at the Summit II event in Chicago on December 12, 2005, I delivered the 
following remarks:

        <bullet>  All of this plan and the hundreds of pages of 
        appendices can be summed up as follows: If it is harmful, don't 
        do it; if we are already doing it, then stop; if harm is coming 
        from what we already have done, then we must undo it.

    To determine our effectiveness in dealing with Great Lakes 
restoration and the other major environmental issues of our time we 
must measure our actions against that philosophy. To the extent that we 
follow it, we are making progress. To the extent that we do not follow 
it, we are failing.
    Today's budget difficulties and political realities cannot be 
ignored, yet they cannot be used as an excuse to ignore actions that 
can be taken within existing fiscal capabilities or to stop those 
practices that we know are harmful. We must openly acknowledge and 
attempt to address each of the problems we face, including those 
resulting from climate change, if we are to be successful in passing on 
a cleaner, healthier Great Lakes ecosystem to our descendents.
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        Responses by Frank Ettawageshik to Additional Questions 
                         from Senator Voinovich
    Question 1. How can we better coordinate this massive restoration 
effort?
    Response. We should build upon the unprecedented success of the 
Great Lakes community pulling together to acknowledge a shared vision 
and to create an action-oriented blueprint for achieving it. We must be 
careful not to impose an overly centralized structure or too much 
regimentation on the process of implementing the Strategy. There is no 
``silver bullet'' solution to how best to ``quarterback'' this effort. 
The parties involved in the restoration effort and the needs of the 
Great Lakes are many and diverse, and their interrelationships are 
complex and dynamic. The mutual trust and respect that has so far been 
engendered in the GLRC process should be relied upon to drive the 
creativity and maintain the commitments that are necessary to ensure 
that the sum total of all the efforts of all those involved--
governmental, non-governmental, private sector and everyday citizens--
will be greater than their separate but individually necessary efforts.
    The Strategy provides us with a blueprint to restore and protect 
the Great Lakes. The GLRC Executive Committee has drafted an 
Implementation Framework that adopts an approach for implementation, 
monitoring and tracking of the Strategy's priorities. The partners 
necessary for an effective effort to restore and protect the Great 
Lakes are at the table and willing to do their part. The Collaboration 
partners are starting to take joint actions to implement the Strategy 
and start the restoration process. This process must be given a chance 
to work.

    Question 2. How can we better coordinate Great Lakes programs at 
all levels of government so that we are more efficient and effective?
    Response. Many of the things that are already being done by the 
Collaboration partners in the name of the Strategy are working well and 
do not need to be changed. The partners do need to strive for 
efficiency and effectiveness in implementation of the Strategy. EPA has 
served as an effective leader throughout the collaborative process and 
can continue to do so as the Strategy is implemented. By taking the 
lead on restoration and protection of the Great Lakes, both by 
supporting existing programs that are working well and embracing new 
programs where there is a need, Congress and the Administration will be 
doing their part and demonstrating a commitment to the Great Lakes that 
will carry over to the rest of the Collaboration partners.
    To fully address the goals of protecting and restoring the Great 
Lakes and to ensure that important needs of the region are not left 
behind, the priorities set forth in the Strategy should serve as a 
substantive and fiscal policy decisionmaking guide for the region, but 
not an exclusive set of actions. As the Strategy is implemented by the 
partners and the greater stakeholder community, it will be important to 
follow the Strategy priorities while allowing room for parties to 
engage in programs utilizing resources and funding that may not have 
been specifically identified in the Strategy. A program beneficial to 
the Great Lakes should not be turned away or cast aside simply because 
it does not fit into a neat box created within the Strategy.
    I believe that there is a concern shared among the Tribal Nations 
over any significant revamping of Federal funding streams that would 
rely upon exclusive competitive project-oriented funding. Tribal 
governments rely on a variety of funding sources for both program and 
project funding simply because we would be unable to carry out the 
projects without the requisite expertise of on-going professional 
staff. As recognized by the Indian Self Determination Act, because we 
are based in the communities we serve, Tribal governments are really in 
the best position to deliver programs to our members. The current 
funding delivery system puts funds in the hands of Tribal governments 
to do this. Moreover, Tribal governments are the only ones providing 
many of the programs that benefit our members and if we do not provide 
those programs, no one will.

    Question 3. What is the key to keeping together all of the groups 
involved in the creation of the blueprint strategy in order to 
implement the goals established by the Collaboration?
    Response. There are three keys to keeping all of the groups 
involved in the creation of the Strategy together for implementation of 
the Strategy. These keys are: (i) an open and transparent process 
involving public participation, (ii) action on the Strategy priorities 
and (iii) inclusively of groups and programs rather than exclusivity.
    As recognized by the GLRC Implementation Framework developed by the 
Executive Committee, the implementation process must be an open and 
transparent process. There must be opportunities for public input and 
participation. In constructing the GLRC and developing the Strategy, 
the public was always welcome and the process was always open. This 
model worked well, encouraged participation and should continue.
    Implementation needs to move forward, seizing on the amazing 
momentum and confluence of energy among all Collaboration partners. The 
Collaboration partners and the greater Great Lakes stakeholder 
community present a diverse and varied group based on the common 
concern for the protection and restoration of the Great Lakes. To keep 
that group together, that common concern for the Great Lakes must 
remain the focus of implementation. Any delay in action to implement 
the Strategy will result in the loss of momentum and the will of 
various groups to remain involved. The time to act is now.
    Finally, because of the diversity of the Collaboration partners and 
other groups involved in the effort to protect and restore the Great 
Lakes, it is crucial to avoid marginalization of particular groups 
because programs they support do not make it on an ``action list'' 
created in the name of Strategy. There are numerous beneficial programs 
at work in the Great Lakes basin. As the Strategy moves toward 
implementation there is increasing desire on the part of some, both 
inside and outside the basin, for efficiency and streamlining of 
programs and funding delivery systems. While Tribal Nations recognize 
the need for efficiency in this process, streamlining programs and 
funding delivery systems results in a growing risk of abandoning or 
undercutting currently successful programs. It also creates a risk of 
proceeding on a ``least common denominator'' basis or on a pared down 
list of actions developed for immediate political expediency. We are 
concerned that even further shortening of the list of priorities 
contained in the Strategy, simply for the sake of improved program 
efficiencies or cost savings, will short-change what needs to be done 
and leave some groups interested in the effort on the outside looking 
in.
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        Responses by Frank Ettawageshik to Additional Questions 
                           from Senator Obama
    Question 1. How would your respective organizations want the Task 
Force to incorporate Governors and tribal leaders in future 
decisionmaking? Do you believe that non-Federal stakeholders need to be 
given a more formal role?
    Response. As part of the unique relationship between the United 
States and Tribal Nations, the Federal Government has treaty and trust 
obligations that require the Federal Government to consult on a 
government-to-government basis with Tribal Nations prior to making 
decisions affecting Tribal lands, resources, people or treaty reserved 
rights. Tribal Nations expect the Task Force and all Federal agencies 
to live up to these obligations throughout the Strategy implementation 
process. Specifically there is a continued vital role for the EPA 
American Indian Environmental Office in maintaining the tribal caucus 
as an instrument for effective Tribal communications.
    Assuming the Federal Government fulfills it obligation to engage 
with Tribal Nations on a government-to-government basis, we do not see 
a more formal role for Tribal Nations on the Task Force. Each partner 
in the GLRC has a role, including Tribal Nations and the Task Force. 
This consensus based process has worked well. The Implementation 
Framework drafted by the GLRC Executive Committee provides for the 
continuation of this process and should be the model for the 
continuation of the Collaboration. However, Tribal Nations would 
certainly encourage anything to make the Task Force more open in its 
activities and more accountable to the other Collaboration partners and 
greater stakeholder community.

    Question 2. What are your organizations' plans to coordinate future 
restoration efforts across the region?
    Response. Tribal Nations have recognized responsibilities to our 
communities to protect the environment and natural resources in the 
past, now, and into the future. We can and do fulfill some of these 
responsibilities within limitations of budget and personnel by 
coordinating with others to restore and protect the Great Lakes, 
including among the Tribal Nations themselves, with the First Nations 
in Canada, and with other governments and groups.
    Tribal Nations and our agencies will continue doing the things that 
we have been doing and that have been working well as it relates to the 
protection and restoration of the Great Lakes as funds allow. To this 
end, over 140 Tribal and First Nations of the Great Lakes basin 
previously signed the ``Tribal and First Nations Great Lakes Water 
Accord'' that pledges us to work together with each other and with 
other governments to secure a healthy future for the Great Lakes. The 
GLRC Tribal Caucus will continue to function for the purposes of the 
implementation framework if funding is maintained. In addition, Tribal 
Nations that share treaty ceded territories utilize intertribal 
agencies such as Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission 
(GLIFWC), Chippewa Ottawa Resource Authority (CORA) and the 1854 
Authority. Tribal Nations are and will continue to be active partners 
and participants in the wide array of existing initiatives that 
effectively coordinate, including the Binational Program to Protect and 
Restore Lake Superior, the GLRC and the Great Lakes Strategic Fisheries 
Management Plan.
    In these cooperative efforts, Tribal governments will continue to 
speak on behalf of Mother Earth, the water, the plants and the animals. 
We will continue to speak on behalf of our communities to preserve life 
ways based upon culture, traditions and teachings. We will continue to 
be active members of the larger Great Lakes community, partnering with 
other governments, with the private sector, with non-governmental 
entities and with everyday citizens to achieve a cleaner, healthier 
Great Lakes ecosystem.
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Statement of Richard M. Daley, Mayor, City of Chicago, on behalf of the 
             Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative
    Good morning Chairman Inhofe, Chairman Voinovich, Ranking Member 
Jeffords, and members of the committee. Thank you for the opportunity 
to appear before you today.
    My name is Richard M. Daley, and I am here today in my capacity as 
Mayor of Chicago, the largest city on the Great Lakes, and as Chairman 
of the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative, a coalition of 
85 United States and Canadian mayors who represent cities and towns 
located along Great Lakes shorelines. A list of the Initiative's 
members is attached. Also attached is a letter from Toronto Mayor David 
Miller, Vice Chairman of the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities 
Initiative. On behalf of the Canadians mayors, Mayor Miller's letter 
supports my testimony today.
    I created the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative in 
2002 to provide a forum for mayors to engage in a focused effort 
regarding the important work of protecting and restoring the Great 
Lakes. The Initiative provides a bi-national entity for mayors to share 
best practices on protecting the Great Lakes and for mayors to become 
more involved in future Great Lakes policies and decisionmaking. Mayors 
are on the front lines of the Great Lakes, and are usually the first 
persons that citizens turn to when issues or concerns arise regarding 
the Great Lakes. While the Great Lakes seem vast and permanent, Great 
Lakes mayors are well aware that they are vulnerable to mismanagement. 
The Great Lakes are critical for our cities and town, and mayors know 
first-hand that they need to be protected.
    I am pleased to be here today for this important committee meeting, 
and I thank Chairman Inhofe and Chairman Voinovich for making this 
meeting possible. It is clear that the members of the EPW Committee 
recognize how important the Great Lakes are, not only to the Midwest, 
but also to the Nation and the world.
    Over the last year, many people in this room have been involved in 
a very important collaborative effort relating to the future of the 
Great Lakes.
    First, many of us were present in Chicago when the Administration 
announced the Executive order that created the Great Lakes Interagency 
Task Force and the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration.
    Without leadership from the President, along with the active 
participation of many Great Lakes members of Congress, this Executive 
order would not have been signed and the important work of the Regional 
Collaboration would not have proceeded. I thank the Administration and 
Congress for taking that important step.
    Second, many people in this room were also present several months 
after the Executive order was announced, when the Regional 
Collaboration had its official kickoff meeting, and many were present 
yet again this past December for the signing of the Regional 
Collaboration's consensus document, the ``Great Lakes Strategy''.
    These major events offered promise and hope for the future of the 
Great Lakes. While they were heralded with great press attention and 
ceremony, there were other significant developments during the past 
year that received less attention.
    At meetings in Rochester, New York; Toledo, Ohio; Traverse City, 
Michigan; and Duluth, Minnesota, hundreds of professionals joined 
together through the Collaboration to determine the best ways to 
protect and restore the Great Lakes.
    Approximately 1,500 people from dozens of cities and eight States 
rolled up their sleeves to participate in this process. They 
represented all levels of government, tribal nations, the private 
sector and the non-profit community, and they worked together in a non-
partisan fashion.
    As you can imagine, this was not a simple process. But the benefits 
of the Regional Collaboration cannot be overstated.
    We now have a consensus strategy for Great Lakes actions and 
investments for years to come. Members of Congress can feel confident 
that this strategy represents the will of the Great Lakes community. 
For the first time, we are all on the same page with a common vision.
    Thanks to these efforts, I am proud to report to you today that, as 
you requested, the priorities have been identified and the planning for 
Great Lakes protection has been completed. Today we are here today to 
discuss the next steps for implementing a long-term strategy for 
protecting and restoring the Great Lakes.
    The Collaboration Strategy recognizes that repairing the damage to 
the Great Lakes cannot be done overnight. It is a long-term undertaking 
that will require large-scale investment from all levels of government 
and all stakeholders.
    The Congress can be assured that we in local government will do our 
part. As Chair of the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative, 
I'm proud of the investment, innovation and leadership that mayors in 
the United States and Canada are already bringing to Great Lakes 
issues. And more innovation is planned.
    Great Lakes mayors have numerous responsibilities as a consequence 
of our shoreline locations. Among those responsibilities, we must 
supply clean drinking water to our regions, ensure safe and clean 
beaches, develop our shorelines responsibly, ensure proper sewage 
treatment, guard against excess runoff, provide safe water recreation 
opportunities, and be cognizant of our responsibility to conserve this 
important resource for generations to come.
    The cities represented by our board of directors each spend an 
annual average of well over $200 million for needs related to the Great 
Lakes, including drinking water and wastewater infrastructure, 
stormwater management, parks and open space, pollution prevention and 
shoreline protection.
    In addition to financial investments, Great Lakes mayors are 
implementing innovative changes in water policy; stepping up efforts to 
conserve water; implementing sustainable building practices; protecting 
our shorelines from erosion; and passing ordinances to stop invasive 
species.
    In Chicago, we are leading the way in innovative green building and 
green water infrastructure. We're ensuring that new city buildings are 
certified as green buildings, and encouraging private-sector developers 
and citizens to conserve water and use stormwater as a resource.
    As Great Lakes Mayors, we are investing our own local resources in 
innovative approaches to protect the Great Lakes, and we are learning 
from each other about how to do even more.
    In Chicago, we are building a stormwater tunnel that will collect 
clean rainwater from the roof of McCormick Place, the largest 
convention center in the nation, and return it to Lake Michigan instead 
of dumping it in the sewer system.
    The tunnel is 12 feet in diameter, 3,300 feet long, and extends 150 
feet under existing buildings and roadways. It will keep approximately 
60 million gallons of water out of the sewer system every year. This 
will help conserve our Great Lakes water and reduce sewer overflows 
during large storms.
    Racine, WI is doing some of the most innovative work in the country 
to come up with solutions for beach contamination.
    Erie, PA and Rochester, NY have made great strides in managing wet 
weather flows to reduce sewer overflows.
    Gary, IN is transforming 21 miles of contaminated industrial 
property along Lake Michigan into publicly accessible parkland.
    And Cleveland recently approved a Lakefront Plan to reconnect the 
city with Lake Erie.
    These are just a few examples of Mayors' leadership in the efforts 
to protect and restore the Great Lakes.
    As I stated previously, long-term protection of the Great Lakes 
will require a sustained commitment at all levels, including the 
Federal Governments of the United States and Canada, State and local 
governments and tribal nations. It should be clear from today's 
hearing, that these groups have already demonstrated their willingness 
to make a commitment to move forward.
    With respect to role of the Federal Government, on December 12, 
2005, I joined Governor Jim Doyle of Wisconsin and Governor Bob Taft of 
Ohio in sending a letter to President Bush, outlining the first near-
term actions toward making our Great Lakes vision a reality.
    These actions were developed through the Regional Collaboration 
process and are supported by the Great Lakes community.
    We asked the Administration to support $300 million in new funding 
for programs to address a range of high priority issues, including 
sewer and water infrastructure, toxic pollutants, wetlands restoration, 
river restoration and brownfields programs.
    Given this Federal funding commitment, local and State governments 
would invest approximately $140 million in matching funds. This would 
be in addition to the billions of dollars that local governments 
collectively spend annually on things like water infrastructure, 
shoreline and habitat improvements, pollution prevention, and 
stormwater management.
    Investing in these near-term actions is an important down payment 
toward our long-term commitment to implement the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration strategy, and will help address the most urgent 
priorities.
    I would like to highlight several of these near-term actions that 
are essential for protection of the Great Lakes.
    <bullet> The Army Corps of Engineers must be given authorization to 
build and operate two invasive-species barriers in the Chicago Sanitary 
and Ship Canal, along with a $6 million appropriation to carry out this 
work.
    This is not a State of Illinois issue; it is a Federal issue. The 
amount of resources needed to complete this work is a fraction of the 
costs associated with devastation to the Great Lakes that Asian carp 
will cause if they move into Lake Michigan.
    <bullet> In order to stop the next invasive species from entering 
the Great Lakes and other important waterways, we need comprehensive 
invasive species legislation. I know many in Congress have been working 
on such legislation and I appreciate your work.
    <bullet> USEPA's brownfields program should be increased by $50 
million and those funds should be targeted to shoreline communities 
around the country, so that waterfronts can be better protected.
    <bullet> I also want to highlight the importance of fully funding 
the Clean Water State Revolving Loan program. Municipalities throughout 
the country are in dire need of funding to address aging water and 
wastewater infrastructure and this program is critical to that work.
    <bullet> We also support the President's FY07 request for full 
funding of the Great Lakes Legacy Program to address toxic hot spots.
    <bullet> Finally, we support the President's commitment to restore 
200,000 acres of wetlands and ask that $28.5 million be appropriated 
for this cause.
    These actions, as well as others outlined in our December 12 letter 
to President Bush are important first steps that we, as a region and as 
a nation, need to take in the short term.
    While these projects are under way, we also need to examine two key 
elements of Great Lakes protection and restoration: excessive 
bureaucracy and funding delivery.
    There are more than 140 separate Federal programs related to the 
Great Lakes. Too often these programs are not coordinated and lead to 
delays in implementation and inefficient use of resources.
    The Asian carp barrier in Illinois is only one example. Despite 
being hailed as a victory for increased coordination among Federal 
agencies, the barrier has continued to run into bureaucratic road 
bumps. It is hard to believe that we are still trying to figure out how 
to secure funds and determine who will operate it once it is finally 
constructed.
    In order to better address these coordination issues, I am joining 
with the Great Lakes Governors in calling for Congress to codify the 
Federal Interagency Task Force. This will help legitimize the Task 
Force and provide a mechanism for Congressional oversight.
    Finally, we need to better target our scarce resources for Great 
Lakes restoration programs. We should to explore long-term strategies 
that give State and local governments more control over directing these 
resources, using the Collaboration Strategy as a guide.
    I am well aware that there are competing priorities and limited 
resources. However, investments we make now will prevent the need for 
far larger expenditures in the future. We shouldn't let the potential 
costs deter us from making the plans necessary to preserve the source 
of 95 percent of the Nation's fresh water and 20 percent of the earth's 
fresh water.
    We have a lot of work ahead of us. We have already shown that the 
Great Lakes community is willing and able to work together to find 
solutions.
    By continuing to work together we can turn this strategy into 
action.
    This is a serious commitment, and one we must all make.
    In closing, I would like to again thank Chairman Inhofe, Chairman 
Voinovich, Ranking Member Jeffords and the members of this committee 
for holding today's meeting to address the very important topic of the 
Great Lakes, and for providing me with the opportunity to share the 
views of Great Lakes mayors.
    The Great Lakes mayors are strongly encouraged by the support of 
many members of Congress, and we look forward to working cooperatively 
with you and others in any way we can to advance progress on the Great 
Lakes.

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 Responses by David Ullrich to Additional Questions from Senator Inhofe
    Question 1. The Strategy establishes funding levels for each of its 
goals. However, there seems to be some disagreement as to who will be 
providing those funds. In your view, how much of the $20 billion in the 
Great Lakes Strategy do you expect from the Federal Government, the 
State governments and the local governments?
    Response. The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy (GLRC 
Strategy) developed by over 1500 people during a 1-year-period included 
cost estimates for the various programs included in the restoration 
process. Although there are not precise figures, approximately \2/3\ of 
the money would come from Federal sources, and the remaining \1/3\ 
would be split about evenly between State and local governments, 
although Federal programs requiring State and local matches often go 
well above the 33 percent level. Given the national and international 
nature of the resource, it is not surprising that the largest portion 
would come from the Federal Government. The United States has formal 
obligations under the Boundary Waters Treaty, the Great Lakes Water 
Quality Agreement, the 1955 United States/Canadian Convention on Great 
Lakes Fisheries that must be met. Also, looking at the magnitude of the 
resource, its value, and its importance to the quality of life and 
economy throughout the United States and Canada, this level of 
investment now will likely avoid much larger expenditures in the 
future, as has been learned in other recent experiences, such as the 
hurricanes.

    Question 2. The near term actions outlined by the Council of Great 
Lakes Governors and the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Cities Initiative 
in a letter sent to the President on December 12, 2005 and the near 
term actions developed by the Administration are inconsistent. Given 
the discrepancies in these near term action items, how can we make sure 
that the goal of better coordination is met?
    Response. The near term action items set out in the letter from 
Governor Taft, Governor Doyle, and Mayor Daley to President Bush on 
December 12, 2005, reflect extensive discussion among the members of 
the strategy teams and of the Executive Subcommittee to the Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration. These action items include a mixture of actual 
restoration projects, monitoring, strategy development, and indicator 
development, with a heavy emphasis on actual restoration. These actions 
come out of the GLRC Strategy, and also reflect the public input from 
over 700 people at public meetings, in addition to the 1500 people who 
developed the GLRC Strategy. The overall thrust of the GLRC process 
initiated under the President's Executive order was to move forward 
with implementation, not just develop another strategy to add to all 
the plans developed in the past but not implemented. The near term 
action items from the Governors and Mayor are fully consistent with the 
spirit of that process.
    The near term actions were developed by the Administration were 
developed outside the GLRC process, and never given to the other 
parties until the week before the GLRC Strategy was scheduled to be 
signed. There was no opportunity to work through the two lists to come 
up with a more consistent list, and the Administration did not indicate 
any willingness to negotiate. A close look at the Administration's list 
of 50 actions shows an extensive number of things such as analysis, 
coordinating, evaluating, reviewing, creating or expanding teams, 
committees, and task forces, providing guidance, and many other 
activities that may be of value, but are not tangible Great Lakes 
restoration work. Many are things are already underway or should have 
been completed some time ago.
    The best way to make sure that the goal of better coordination is 
met in the future is for all parties to come to the table with the 
authority to negotiate specific actions that can be taken. All parties 
need to be flexible in reaching a consensus on near term actions. This 
is still possible as the GLRC moves forward with implementation.

    Question 3. Please provide documentation detailing the roles of the 
States and local authorities and their contributions to this 
restoration process, including funding each will provide to meet the 
objectives outlined in the restoration strategy.
    Response. Local authorities have major roles and responsibilities 
for restoration of the Great Lakes, and have been contributing 
significantly to the process for some time, as they will in the future. 
It should be noted that many of these responsibilities are shared with 
State and Federal authorities. The fundamental responsibility of local 
government is to build, improve, and maintain infrastructure that forms 
the foundation for cities. Sound management of the infrastructure and 
the activities that rely on the infrastructure are essential to the 
quality of life for the citizens.
    Cites and other local authorities have been responsible for 
providing water supply and wastewater management services to their 
citizens for a very long time. As the many demands on local budgets 
have continued to increase, the challenge to expand, upgrade, and 
maintain the water infrastructure has become more difficult. Federal 
and State funding in the form of grants in the past and now lower 
interest loans has been essential and very helpful. With very few 
grants available now, the local taxpayers are assuming almost the 
entire burden of these capital investments and operating expenses.
    Storm water management is another activity for local governments. 
Especially because of the problems with combined sewers, cities are 
taking steps to reduce and slow flows from roofs, streets, parking 
lots, and other impervious surfaces. Even such things as street 
cleaning collects materials for proper disposal, rather than having 
them carried into the rivers and lakes with the storm water runoff.
    The parks, beaches, harbors, and marinas along the shores of the 
Great Lakes are tremendous assets and require major management 
attention and financial investment.
    Cities, through their park districts and other authorities, must 
maintain the facilities and upgrade them on an ongoing basis. These 
facilities are an integral part of the social and economic fabric of 
the cities, and must be managed in a way that accommodates human use 
and protects the resource.
    The waterfronts as a whole are exceedingly important to the cities 
along the Great Lakes. Maintaining their vitality, and revitalizing 
them where this is needed, are major items on the agendas of cities. 
Most of the cities have some form of waterfront plan in the conceptual, 
planning, or implementation stage. Mayors are instrumental in putting 
together the public, private, and non-profit partnerships that make 
this revitalization possible. Cities are seeking to do this in a 
sustainable way that will preserve the waterfront for the long term.
    Dealing with invasive species is another responsibility that local 
governments share with State and Federal Governments. Although 
comprehensive national aquatic invasive species legislation is a far 
more cost effective way to reduce the flow of invasive species to the 
Great Lakes, until such time as Congress acts, State and local 
governments have taken steps within their jurisdictions to address this 
problem. States and cities have passed or are considering legislation 
that would restrict the introduction of such species. In addition, 
cities must deal with such problems as keeping water intakes and 
beaches clear of zebra mussels.
    Cities are working to keep toxic waste out of the Great Lakes. 
Several local authorities have had successful programs to reduce the 
amount of mercury that gets into the wastewater stream. Household 
hazardous waste collections keep these materials from being put in 
landfills or dumped down drains.
    These are just some of the many things local governments are doing 
to protect and restore the Great Lakes. State and tribal governments 
are also very active, and there responses to these questions will 
address their roles and responsibilities.
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    Responses by David Ullrich to Additional Questions from Senator 
                                Jeffords
    Question 1. Mr. Ullrich, can you describe the effect that the 
significant budget cuts in clean water spending proposed by the 
President will have on the ability of cities to take care of water 
infrastructure issues?
    Response. The effects of the significant budget cuts to the clean 
water State revolving fund will have serious effects on the ability of 
cities to take care of water infrastructure issues. The investments 
needed on the Great Lakes alone to deal with sewer overflow problems 
are in the many billions of dollars. The low interest loans from the 
various federally financed revolving funds are an essential financing 
option available to cities for these investments. As those funds have 
been cut back nationally, the availability of financing these critical 
improvements for cities goes down and they fall further behind in 
maintaining the infrastructure.
    If the Administration's FY07 budget proposal to fund the CWSRF at 
$687.6 million is approved, this would equate to a cut of $240 million 
to the eight Great Lakes States when compared to FY01 when the CWSRF 
was fully funded. This cut translates to a direct hit on communities. 
It is particularly damaging now, because many communities face rapidly 
escalating costs for water infrastructure repairs and upgrades, which 
are needed to ensure clean and safe local waters, and it especially 
troubling for the Great Lakes region, where many cities are older and 
have aging water infrastructure. Faced with such significant reductions 
in Federal water funds, many municipalities must sacrifice other 
important local needs or increase local water rates for consumers.

    Question 2. Mr. Ullrich, do you have any comments on the 
effectiveness of EPA programs for assistance to the States and Tribes 
for water quality issues?
    Response. The EPA programs for assistance to the States and Tribes 
for water quality under the Clean Water Act are generally sound and 
well established in over 30 years of implementation. Based on the 
foundation of Federal water quality criteria and State water quality 
standards, all of the programs have a clear set of goals to achieve. 
The National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit program 
resulted in a dramatic reduction of pollutants discharged from point 
sources, and lead to major water quality improvements. Central to the 
success of that effort was the Federal and State funding to help pay 
for municipal wastewater infrastructure. Many efforts for dealing with 
non point source pollution under Section 319 of the Clean Water Act 
have been very successful. Some of the more recent work under watershed 
programs shows great potential for future water quality improvements.
    Other program areas have not been as effective. The process of 
setting total maximum daily loads for streams, then getting the 
necessary reductions from point and non point sources has been very 
slow. Monitoring has not been funded at the level necessary to have a 
good picture of water quality over time for many of our lakes, rivers, 
and streams. Numerous, uncoordinated and in some cases conflicting 
programs administered by multiple agencies have resulted in minimal 
advancement in Great Lakes restoration and protection. For example, EPA 
has only a small portion of the wetland programs, and the remaining 
wetland programs are spread out over a number of Federal Agencies, and 
suffer from a lack of coordination that could make them much more 
effective. Because of the critical importance of wetlands from a water 
quality, flood control, and habitat perspective, there needs to be much 
more consolidation and coordination of the Federal effort.
    Funding is probably the most serious problem faced across all 
programs. As State and Federal budgets are strained, the water programs 
have often suffered the most. Without adequate resources, the water 
programs will fall further behind in trying to reach the goal of being 
able to drink the water, eat the fish, and swim at the beaches of all 
of our lakes and streams.

    Question 3. Mr. Ullrich, can you describe your thoughts on the need 
for comprehensive invasive species legislation?
    Response. Comprehensive national invasive species legislation is 
essential if we are going to protect our ecosystems and avoid even more 
costly problems caused by the introductions of species from across the 
globe. In this area, we have one of the few opportunities to prevent a 
problem before it develops. This must be done on a national basis, and 
coordinated closely with both Canada and Mexico, because there are so 
many potential pathways for the invasive species. Aquatic and 
terrestrial plants and animals are all threats. The elements of 
effective legislation should include, at a minimum:

        <bullet>  ballast water discharge limits that protect the 
        receiving waters from invasive species, force the development 
        of better technology, apply as soon as possible, and move 
        toward a goal of no discharge of viable organisms;
        <bullet>  new vessels would have to meet the tighter standards 
        immediately upon operation;
        <bullet>  old vessels must meet stringent best management 
        practices until they meet the new standards;
        <bullet>  ships claiming no ballast on board would need to meet 
        all standards hull management requirements;
        <bullet>  comprehensive programs for non ballast water 
        introductions, including stringent review of all organisms in 
        trade before they are brought in, especially if introduced for 
        aquaculture;
        <bullet>  rapid response capability to eradicate or limit the 
        spread of newly introduced species;
        <bullet>  expanded monitoring and research to better understand 
        the potential for introducing new organisms, detecting 
        introductions, and improving treatment methods;
        <bullet>  better information, education, and outreach so the 
        public and the business community better understands the 
        threats from invasive species and how to prevent their 
        introduction;
        <bullet>  enforcement, and provide adequate resources for the 
        task;
        <bullet>  full coordination of the entire effort with Canada 
        (for the Great Lakes) and Mexico;
        <bullet>  strong enforcement of the requirements with 
        appropriate sanctions to deter the violations;
        <bullet>  no pre-emption of State or local laws;
        <bullet>  preserve Clean Water Act authority to regulate, if 
        necessary.

    While this legislation is pending, as it has been for a number of 
years, more invaders come into our country on a continuing basis. In 
the Great Lakes alone, one new species about every eight months 
arrives. The potential costs and damages each one could inflict are 
substantial. It makes no practical sense for individual States and 
cities to pass laws and ordinances to try to stem the flow, when this 
is a matter of interstate and international commerce that should be 
dealt with at the Federal level. In addition, when there is Federal 
authority to act, like under the Lacy Act for dealing with injurious 
species such as the black, silver, and bighead carp, Congress needs to 
hold agencies accountable for timely action.
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        Responses by David Ullrich to Additional Questions from 
                           Senator Voinovich
    Question 1. How much funding are the cities contributing to Great 
Lakes restoration?
    Response. We do not have an accurate figure that covers all the 
expenditures on Great Lakes related matters for cities from the United 
States, or from Canada. However, the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence 
Cities Initiative (GLSL Cities Initiative) performed an informal survey 
of eight cities represented on the Board of Directors for a variety of 
capital and operating expenditures on a variety things. The results 
showed that these cities were spending, on average, about $200 million 
annually on capital and operating expenses. The categories of 
expenditures included: wastewater, drinking water, storm water, 
constructed wetlands, lakefront parks, watercourse/flood protection, 
shoreline protection, redevelopment, and pollution prevention. These 
were medium to larger cities, and there were several Canadian cities 
included. The average across all cities would be lower, but these eight 
alone amount to almost $2 billion annually for operating and capital 
expenditures together.

    Question 2. How can we better coordinate this massive restoration 
effort?
    Response. The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration was an excellent 
effort on the part of all participants, and we need to take full 
advantage of the outstanding work done by everyone. The success of the 
effort goes well beyond coordination, and includes a number of factors. 
First, with the amount of planning done in the past, including the GLRC 
strategy, there must be an understanding that, now, far more emphasis 
should be placed on implementation than on planning. Second, more 
accountability at individual levels of government and collectively 
among the parties will be very important. Third, stronger leadership at 
each level is essential for success. Periodic Congressional oversight 
hearings would help in this accountability process. In addition, it 
would improve the overall performance if the parties could agree upon a 
central leadership position or authority to provide more direction to 
the efforts of all the parties. Fourth, the goals and objectives in the 
GLRC strategy should have timelines attached to them so that progress 
can be tracked against schedules. Fifth, substantially more funding 
will be required to move forward with restoration, and Congress, State 
legislatures, city councils, and tribal councils, as well as the 
private and non-profit sectors, need to work very hard on this. These 
are not all the actions needed, but are some of the most important for 
improving coordination and success on Great Lakes restoration.

    Question 3. How can we better coordinate Great Lakes programs at 
all levels of government so that we are more efficient and effective?
    Response. Looking at just the issue of coordination, we have the 
mechanism in place to improve coordination across all programs at all 
levels of governments by fully utilizing the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration Executive Committee and the Implementation Framework. 
This should be the focal point for communication, coordination, and 
action. It would be helpful if the parties would look at the other 
Great Lakes institutions and Federal programs that have been created 
over the years to see if some of them are redundant and could be 
reformed, consolidated, or discontinued. This could help reduce the 
burden of travel time and meeting time on many of the participants and 
also might better clarify roles and responsibilities.

    Question 4. What can cities do to raise the profile of this 
restoration effort beyond the region?
    Response. Cities are currently taking actions to raise the profile 
of this restoration effort beyond the region, and will continue to do 
so in the future. The leadership of the GLSL Cities Initiative has 
traveled to Washington, DC, on a number of occasions to testify before 
Congress, meet with Administration officials, and speak at Great Lakes 
gatherings. Because the GLSL Cities Initiative has members from both 
the United States and Canada, an from the St. Lawrence and the Great 
Lakes parts of the basin, we are raising the profile in a large portion 
of Canada that has a significant portion of the Canadian population. We 
also will be more involved in Canadian matters in Ottawa. 
Representatives from the GLSL Cities Initiative recently participated 
in the World Water Forum in Mexico City. GLSL Cities Initiative also 
plans to be more visible in the U.S. Conference of Mayors activities.

    Question 5. What is the key to keeping together all of the groups 
involved in the creation of the blueprint strategy in order to 
implement the goals established by the Collaboration?
    Response. Several things are key to keeping the groups together for 
implementing the GLRC Strategy. First, all parties need to commit to 
the GLRC Executive Committee and Implementation Framework. This should 
serve as the driving force in all the actions taken by the various 
levels of government and the private and non-profit parties. Second, 
the focus must be on implementation rather than more planning. Even 
without significant increases in funding, the parties must figure out 
how to move forward. Third, it is important to celebrate all levels of 
success under the GLRC Strategy. In order to achieve success, 
additional funding will clearly be needed. This will give all the 
parties the encouragement that they need to continue their efforts. 
Fourth, effective communication among the parties so that work is 
coordinated, and that there are no surprises. These actions should all 
help keep the parties together.

    Question 6. Please elaborate on how the mayors and the entire 
Collaboration are working with Canada and their restoration activities.
    Response. The GLSL Cities Initiative mayors from the United States 
are working with the Canadian mayors on a continuing basis. The Board 
of Directors, consisting of eight mayors each from the United States 
and Canada has monthly conference calls and a midwinter meeting to make 
sure that efforts are moving forward in both countries. The GLSL Cities 
Initiative has an annual meeting of all members, plus many outside 
guests, to showcase much of the work that has been done and what is 
planned for the future. As part of the planning for the future, the 
GLSL Cities Initiative is nearing completion of a business and 
operating plan that should be approved at the June 2006 annual meeting 
and will serve as a guide for the next 3 years for activities in both 
countries. The GLSL Cities Initiative also plans to open an office in 
Toronto in the near future so that activities in Canada receive the 
necessary attention. The web site for the GLSL Cities Initiative is 
also place where the work in both countries is shown for the benefit of 
all members and the broader public. Much as the mayors were extensively 
involved in the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration in the United 
States, the mayors will also be participating in discussions on the new 
Canadian Ontario Agreement and on the St. Lawrence Action Plan. With 
the review and revision of the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement 
underway, representatives from cities are already engaged in those 
discussions.
    The States work with the Canadian provinces in the context of the 
Council of Great Lakes Governors and the Great Lakes Commission. The 
Native American Tribes have a working relationship with the First 
Nations in Canada, and have been developing a Great Lakes organization. 
At the Federal level, the Binational Executive Committee is the primary 
place for interaction. Many of the parties also participate in the 
activities of the International Joint Commission.
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 Responses by David Ullrich to Additional Questions from Senator Obama
    Question 1. Are the mayors concerned that they may be left out of 
Federal decisionmaking regarding how priorities are determined and how 
resources are allocated?
    Response. For many years, mayors and other representatives of local 
governments were not included in Great Lakes decision-making. That has 
changed significantly over the past 3 years. The mayors are now 
included as full and equal partners in the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration, the Agreement Review Committee for the Great Lakes Water 
Quality Agreement, the International Joint Commission--Water Quality 
Board, and have served on a number of advisory committees. The Council 
of Great Lakes Governors has been especially inclusive to the mayors in 
much of their work. The tribal organizations and many Federal agencies 
have also reached out to the cities. The mayors are confident that when 
resource distributions are considered, the cities will be included in 
the deliberations.

    Question 2. How will the mayors be coordinating their future 
restoration efforts across the region?
    Response. As noted above, the mayors will be working as part of the 
Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Executive Committee to coordinate 
its activities with the other orders of government. For coordination 
with other cities, the GLSL Cities Initiative is in continuing contact 
with its members to make sure that its work is planned and implemented 
effectively. There are over 80 cities from the United States and Canada 
that have been involved in efforts to protect and restore the Great 
Lakes, and they are working with one another through the organization 
web site, sharing things such as best practices in different cities and 
information about developments at the national, regional, State, 
provincial, and local level. Through the annual meeting, many members 
come together to showcase especially successful efforts, pass 
resolutions to convey the organization's position on key issues, and 
create opportunities for joint efforts on protection and restoration of 
the resource. The Board of Directors meets monthly by conference call 
and mid-year in person. There is a newsletter that shares information 
on key actions of the organization and its members.

    Question 3. Given the number of people who depend on the Great 
Lakes for their drinking water, how critical is it that we restore the 
health of the Great Lakes?
    Response. The Great Lakes are probably one of the most valuable 
resources, if not the most valuable, to the citizens, governments, and 
businesses in this region of Canada and the United States, as well as 
providing benefits to the rest of both countries. The contributions to 
the social, economic, and ecological well being of the region are 
tremendous, and go well beyond just their value as a drinking water 
supply. With the increasing concerns about adequate water supplies 
around the world, the value of the Great Lakes for that purpose alone 
will continue to increase significantly. There are very major threats 
to the integrity of the resource that will increase with time. If the 
United States and Canada do not recognize the very high priority of 
investments in protection and restoration, its value will diminish, 
like any other asset, for the many uses it offers such as a domestic 
water supply, food source, recreation location, and many others. In 
fact, cost burdens from such things as invasive species will likely 
increase, as well. We should not learn the lesson the hard way on the 
Great Lakes like we have in other areas of the country where timely 
investments could have avoided astronomical costs.

    Question 4. People outside of the Great Lakes region often assume 
that restoration of the Lakes is a regional issue. Is it the opinion of 
your organization that the health of the Great Lakes is a national 
issue? If so, why?
    Response. Restoration of the Great Lakes is clearly a national 
issue. There are many reasons for this. The sheer volume of the 
resource, being almost twenty percent of the surface fresh water in the 
world, makes it internationally significant. Because they are shared 
with Canada, and forms much of our northern border, the Great Lakes 
must be addressed on a national level. They provide a flow of 
interstate commerce, not only in the region, but to other parts of the 
country, making it important to other parts of the country. The 
boating, fishing, and other recreational opportunities add billions of 
dollars to the economy and attract people from all over the country, as 
well. Much as the Everglades, the Rockies, Chesapeake Bay, and other 
features of our landscape help define us as a country, the Great Lakes 
are very much a part of the identity of the United States.
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          Statement of George H. Kuper, President, Council of 
                         Great Lakes Industries
    Good morning. Thank you for your leadership in and support of the 
Great Lakes Restoration Strategy. And, thank you also for this 
opportunity to express our support for the breadth and 
comprehensiveness of the Strategy and to express industry's 
perspective.
    I am here today representing the Council of Great Lakes Industries 
(CGLI), which is made up of three dozen United States and Canadian 
companies and industrial associations with significant investments in 
the Great Lakes basin. CGLI is a member driven organization focused 
exclusively on policy issues in the Great Lakes Region. We have 
substantial experience in the function of multi-stakeholder, consensus-
building efforts and our individual members have real world, practical 
experience of doing business in the Great Lakes region. In CGLI, work 
gets done by the members and is developed from members' priorities. The 
mission of our organization is ``promoting the economic growth and 
vitality of the region in harmony with its human and natural 
resources'' or in other words, sustainable development.
    Industry has been, and continues to be, actively engaged in a range 
of basin-wide and local initiatives to address the issues in the Great 
Lakes Restoration Strategy. Council of Great Lakes Industries' members 
and senior public policy managers from Great Lakes industrial 
organizations were actively involved in the Collaboration process.
    Like many others, I am here today to represent industry's support 
for environmental restoration in the Great Lakes. In order to avoid 
repetition, I will focus on issues that others might not mention--
issues that we believe must be considered for the sustainable 
development of our Great Lakes Region. This testimony will evidence 
industry's support for the Restoration Strategy; the national 
significance of investing in the restoration of the Great Lakes region; 
and, some specifics of the Strategy that we feel are worthy of 
attention.
    I. From industry's perspective, we view the Collaboration's 
Restoration Strategy as a useful guide to many of the--primarily 
environmental-concerns of the citizens of the Great Lakes basin. We 
welcome the 12 December 2005 commitment of the Great Lakes Governors, 
Federal administrators, the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence Mayor's 
organization, Tribal Leaders, and others to develop a plan for going 
forward. There is a need to address the uncertainty surrounding what 
happens next, making sure that rigorous analysis, including risk 
assessment, is conducted before priorities are set and programs funded. 
Therefore, we look forward to the release by the Collaboration 
Executive Committee of their priority plans for the continuation of the 
GLRC and implementation of the Restoration Strategy.
    The Collaboration process has given the region an opportunity to do 
things differently. It was a complicated, multi-stakeholder process. 
But it provided a chance for many participants to offer input. 
Unfortunately, the process did not always include enough rigor to 
determine the true costs and societal benefits, and accurately 
determine priority needs--needs we trust will be addressed by the 
Executive Committee's plans. We also hope they will include ways to 
streamline the implementation process for priority programs. But, the 
multi-stakeholder process did allow some industry representatives to 
bring their important and sometimes unique perspective to the 
individual task groups including:
    <bullet> a scientific focus;
    <bullet> details regarding accomplishments in the basin over the 
last three decades and industry's role in the significant reduction of 
persistent, bio-accumulating toxics releases;
    <bullet> recognition of current regulations and the roles they play 
in protecting the environment;
    <bullet> an understanding of what encourages sustainable economic 
development and what does not; and,
    <bullet> experience regarding the real costs associated with 
achieving specific objectives.
    Not surprisingly, we industrial representatives feel that the 
entire focus of the Collaboration should be on sustainable development. 
A healthy environment, social progress and a strong and vibrant 
economy--all elements of sustainable development--are essential to the 
well-being of our Region's, and the country's, manufacturing economy. 
The environment is only one leg of the three-legged sustainable 
development stool--the other legs are social and economic. It is 
important to remember that the environment is an arena where the region 
has worked hard and effectively to change the way we do things. While 
we still face challenges, we are achieving environmental improvement. 
Our big challenge now is to continue to improve the environment while 
increasing jobs and the tax base that support education and quality of 
life. This is not to say that we're in a ``jobs verses environment'' 
situation. The people of the Great Lakes Region need a healthy 
environment and the jobs that support them. The two are inextricably 
linked. We can't have one without the other. It is the infrastructure 
necessary to provide for a healthy environment that is in need of 
attention.
    II. It is important for us all to understand that successful 
implementation of the Great Lakes Restoration Strategy is not just a 
Great Lakes Regional issue. The Great Lakes Region is a vital component 
of the U.S. economy. A strong Great Lakes economy is very important for 
the country as a whole.
    The Great Lakes Region is responsible for producing a third (32.5 
percent) of the U.S. gross State product [based on Gross State Product, 
2004]. We do this from a population base of 40 million people or less 
than a quarter of the Nation's population.
    But, we need your help. The Region that has made this significant 
contribution to the Nation's economic welfare is now in need of the 
Nation's care and attention. Our manufacturing base--60 percent of all 
U.S. manufacturing--is clearly having problems. The global information 
and communications revolution is contributing to a critical period of 
what economists refer to as ``creative destruction'' in the region's 
economy. The old ways of doing business are giving way to the new ways 
of doing business and some of our industries and many of our citizens 
are caught in this transition. At the same time our manufacturing base 
must implement significant productivity improvements in order to reduce 
costs and strive to remain globally competitive.
    In order to protect this contribution to the Nation's GDP, the 
region is going to need the Nation's investment. Industry is working 
hard to identify the things needed to be done to improve our 
productivity and our competitiveness. In addition to individual company 
efforts, there is the newly formed Great Lakes Manufacturing Council 
which has identified some common elements of manufacturing 
competitiveness that can be worked on collectively. That agenda is 
similar to the agenda of the National Center for Manufacturing 
Sciences, which develops new technologies for common factory functions. 
The outcomes from these collective efforts will be available to 
manufacturers throughout the country. In the region we will need new 
investment to apply the results. We will need to attract significant 
private investment in new plants and equipment to harvest the 
productivity improvement opportunities we have identified. We need to 
capitalize on the talent of the people in this Region, their up-graded 
skills and our R&D successes. And, I must add, that new investment will 
be easier to attract when the national problems related to the 
transition from industry supported health care and retirement burdens--
which sit disproportionately on the Region and make us less competitive 
are fixed.
    A vibrant sustainable development infrastructure is a key 
ingredient in attracting essential industrial investment. A significant 
Federal commitment to the Region in support of modern and improved 
water and wastewater infrastructure will have a profound impact on the 
economy of the Region and the Nation as a whole. Public funding and 
pursuit of key parts of the Restoration Strategy will have a positive 
economic development impact on the Region. We are currently trying to 
organize a study jointly with the Healing Our Waters/Great Lakes 
Coalition and Mr. Buchsbaum in order to understand how to quantify 
these positive economic impacts. We hope to be able to report back to 
you specifics on the spin-off economic development impacts you can 
anticipate from funding the Restoration Strategy.
    III. Industry has specific ideas about how we can begin to focus on 
and achieve sustainable development within our region using the outputs 
from the Collaboration. Setting the right priorities are important. As 
we've said, our resources are strained and the needs are many.
    Some of the Restoration Strategy identified needs that we feel are 
important to the development of our economy include:
    <bullet> Coastal Health.--We believe the sewage treatment capacity 
in the basin needs to be expanded and improvements funded. These 
infrastructure improvements are essential to protect the Great Lakes 
ecosystem and also positively impact future economic development in the 
region.
    <bullet> Areas of Concern (AOCs) and Sediments.--We have testified 
in support of the original legislation and for an increase in funding 
for the Great Lakes Legacy Act (GLLA) in the past and we continue to 
support it. The Restoration Strategy calls for--and we support--
streamlining the approval process and improving coordination between 
all the levels of government to speed-up clean-ups. The proposed 
increased flexibility in selecting sediment treatment and disposal 
options is good policy. The GLLA deserves to be fully funded.
    <bullet> Toxic Pollutants.--We've made a lot of progress in this 
area. And there is much more to do. But things have changed. Because of 
the substantial reductions made, it is now critically important to 
consider the magnitude and relative importance of remaining levels of 
these materials from risk assessment and management perspectives to 
ensure that resources are directed to reductions that will have 
meaningful outcomes. The industries I represent--and others--are 
heavily involved in the Great Lakes BiNational Toxics Strategy (GLBTS) 
where we are working hard and meeting the targets for substance release 
reduction/elimination and timetables set out within this program. But, 
a word of caution on issues like mercury and other substances of 
concern. If, in our efforts to ``virtually eliminate'' (whatever that 
means) this naturally occurring substance we become more restrictive on 
operations in the Region, we will make our Region less competitive and 
cripple economic development. This means that informed risk-based 
solutions are needed, not arbitrary additional reductions in pursuit of 
broad non-quantified policies.
    <bullet> Non-Point Sources.--We support the recommendations of the 
task group that are directly related to the control of pollution from 
indirect sources. And we support the deployment of Best Management 
Practices (BMPs) as a reasonable approach to dealing with the current 
circumstances prevailing in the Basin.
    <bullet> Aquatic Invasive Species.--The Restoration Strategy calls 
for important actions--like the carp barrier--that should be actively 
pursued in order to preserve the efficacy of Great Lakes shipping and 
preserving our access to world markets. We support these.
    <bullet> Information and Indicators.--Coordinated monitoring and 
assessment is essential to ensuring success in Great Lakes protection 
and restoration efforts. The collection of information is vital but we 
need to make sure we make the right decisions and we need to measure 
the right things. And, we must make this information readily available 
to track progress and support research.
    <bullet> Sustainability.--While in support of the recommendations 
from this area, we are disappointed that it has been split out as a 
separate area of the Collaboration. As I said before, sustainable 
development is not one segment of this effort but the overriding 
enabler needed to support both the environment and economy in our 
Region. The balancing of environmental, social and economic factors is 
key to each element in this Restoration Strategy. It should form the 
organizing framework of the entire strategy.
    Again, while these actions will improve the environment, they will 
also add to the economic viability of the region currently under 
enormous economic pressure.
    Looking at the Restoration Strategy as a whole, we should all 
understand that there must be a shift in emphasis from some old 
programs and their obsolete objectives to new areas. We must make the 
most efficient use of public dollars to meet Restoration Strategy 
objectives, especially when funding for existing programs can be 
directed and/or redirected to meet Restoration goals. Programs such as 
the BiNational Toxics Strategy and the State of the Lakes Ecosystem 
Conference have great potential to satisfy some critical needs raised 
in the Strategy.
    Industry in the region--where many companies are in a fight for 
their continued existence--supports many of the initial recommendations 
of the Restoration Strategy, as we understand them. Many of these 
programs deserve funding for the betterment of our great region. But, 
we must caution that the economic viability of the region needs to be a 
part of each funding decision, not only for the sake of the Region, but 
the good of the country.
    Thank you for this opportunity to share our experience. Please call 
on us to provide additional information and perspectives.
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         Response by George H. Kuper to an Additional Question 
                          from Senator Inhofe
    Question. The Strategy establishes funding levels for each of its 
goals. However, there seems to be some disagreement as to who will be 
providing those funds. In your view, how much of the $20 billion in the 
Great Lakes Strategy do you expect from the Federal Government, the 
State governments and the local governments?
    Response. We support the Strategy recommendation for funding. 
According to the Strategy recommendations, the most important item for 
support through Federal, State and local funding is in response to the 
Coastal Health recommendations for improvements to wastewater treatment 
systems. As part of a 55/45 percent Federal/local cost share $7.535 
billion in Federal grants would be made available over 5 years. These 
Federal funds would stimulate commitment to the required State and 
local resources of $6.21 billion over the 5-year period. Other funding 
recommendations, such as those regarding Areas of Concern, provide for 
full funding of existing programs such as the Great Lakes Legacy Act. 
And, some of the funds called for in the Strategy are not really new 
monies since they will include the redirection of funds in current 
programs.
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         Responses by George H. Kuper to Additional Questions 
                         from Senator Voinovich
    Question 1. What is the key to keeping together all of the groups 
involved in the creation of the blueprint strategy in order to 
implement the goals established by the Collaboration?
    Response. The Collaboration has created a very large collective 
group of citizens, government representatives, tribal interests, 
industry people, environmental groups and others who actively 
participated in the Collaboration process. Some participants were 
interested in one particular issue workgroup while others participated 
on several groups. A key to keeping these groups and individuals 
involved is communication. They need to be informed about the 
continuing process, the progress on the issues addressing their 
particular concerns and, most importantly, opportunities for their 
continued involvement so that the priorities they are concerned about 
can be addressed.
    The Great Lakes Collaboration Implementation Act (SB 2545 & HR 
5100) calls for the Collaboration to serve three roles. The first is to 
develop and maintain as current the protection strategy. The second is 
to serve as a forum to address near-term regional issues relating to 
ecosystem restoration and protection. Third is to establish an 
oversight forum to coordinate and enhance implementation of Great Lakes 
programs. To accomplish these objectives, an ongoing two-way 
communication effort has to be maintained and opportunities for 
meaningful involvement offered.

    Question 2. How can we best coordinate this massive restoration 
effort?
    Response. The Restoration Strategy identifies many stakeholders' 
concerns regarding threats to the Great Lakes eco-system. And, it 
outlines specific needs to address restoration objectives. Coordination 
of the actions necessary to deliver on those needs fall into several 
different categories:
    <bullet> Reviewing and revising existing program activities as they 
may relate to restoration objectives with a view to increase funding in 
pertinent areas;
    <bullet> Abandoning those programs which have either accomplished 
their objective(s) or are not likely to do so, in favor of new 
approaches and new objectives; and,
    <bullet> Create new programs where no existing program is now in 
place to respond to the restoration need.
    The proposed restoration activities will be beyond the scope of any 
single Federal Agency. And many of them will have a bi-national 
component. Therefore, a different governance structure will be 
necessary.
    We haven't yet reviewed thoroughly The Great Lakes Collaboration 
Implementation Act introduced in the U.S. Senate (SB 2545) and House of 
Representatives (HR 5100) earlier this month. This legislation has 
presumably been crafted to coordinate the implementation of the 
Collaboration priorities. We will be studying the proposed coordination 
of Federal efforts through the Interagency Task Force and overall 
coordination through the Executive Committee of the Collaboration. But, 
we are initially predisposed to see that proposal as inadequate because 
of the immense scope of the restoration and the role that must be 
played by numerous stakeholders. A successful coordination and 
governance effort will require the provision of roles for stakeholders. 
This does not seem to be a part of the existing structure.

    Question 3. How can we better coordinate Great Lakes programs at 
all levels of government so that we are more efficient and effective?
    Response. See response to No. 2 above.

    Question 4. What can industry do to raise the profile of this 
restoration effort beyond the region?
    Response. Industry was an active participant in and supporter of 
the Collaboration process and will continue to participate. Industry is 
eager to see a restoration process with priorities determined on the 
basis of risk and focused on a sustainable Great Lakes Region. Industry 
fully understands the importance to the national economy of the Great 
Lakes Region, as we produce more than 32 precent of the Gross State 
Product. We are working to raise the profile of Great Lakes Restoration 
within our member companies, most of whom are international in scope, 
and within our trade associations that have national reach. Further, 
industry is working to bring these issues to the attention of law 
makers at the Federal, State and local level.
    More specifically, the Council of Great Lakes Industries (CGLI) is 
working with the environmental community on a project to document the 
national economic benefits of Great Lakes restoration. CGLI and the 
Healing Our Waters Coalition (HOW) are cosponsoring a Brookings 
Institution study on the benefits of Great Lakes restoration on both 
the Great Lakes and national economies. We believe that the results of 
this study will facilitate national support for Great Lakes 
restoration.
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 Statement of Andy Buchsbaum, Director, National Wildlife Federation's 
Great Lakes Office and Co-Chair, Healing Our Waters<SUP>'</SUP>--Great 
                            Lakes Coalition
    Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, thank you for this 
opportunity to testify before you today on this issue of critical 
national importance: Great Lakes protection and restoration. My name is 
Andy Buchsbaum, and I come here wearing two hats. First, I am the 
director of the National Wildlife Federation's Great Lakes Office. NWF 
is the America's oldest and largest conservation organization, with one 
million members and affiliated organizations in 47 States. The second 
hat I wear is as the co-chair of a broad-based national coalition, the 
Healing Our Waters--Great Lakes Coalition, dedicated to the protection 
and restoration of the Great Lakes. The Healing Our Waters (``HOW'') 
Coalition is truly national in scope with 85 national, regional, State 
and local organizations. These include Great Lakes State and regional 
conservation organizations such as the Alliance for the Great Lakes, 
Great Lakes United, and the Ohio Environmental Council; national 
conservation organizations like Ducks Unlimited, National Wildlife 
Federation, National Parks Conservation Association, Trout Unlimited, 
the Sierra Club, the Nature Conservancy and the Audubon Society; 
educational institutions such as Shedd Aquarium and Brookfield Zoo; and 
government representatives such as the County Executives of America. A 
full list of the Healing Our Waters Coalition accompanies this 
testimony as Appendix A.
    My testimony today will focus on three areas: the importance of a 
healthy Great Lakes to the Nation; the accelerating deterioration the 
Great Lakes are currently experiencing; and the critical role of the 
Great Lakes Regional Collaboration recommendations in stopping and 
reversing the lakes' precipitous decline. The bottom line is this: 
making a substantial investment in the Great Lakes now will earn a 
significant economic and ecological return for the region and the 
Nation. Delaying that investment will make future actions far more 
costly, and likely will result in irreversible damage to this national 
and global treasure.
                  the great lakes: a national priority
    The Great Lakes certainly define the region for the 42 million 
people who live there. They mean more to us than places to swim or fish 
or hike; more than places to watch a beautiful sunset or hike through 
some of the world's most beautiful dunes and national lakeshores; more 
than our source of drinking water; more than the lifeblood of commerce 
and industry. For those of us who live there, they are part of our way 
of life, the way we define ourselves and our future. When I was growing 
up on the outskirts of Chicago, the high points of each summer were my 
trips to Lake Michigan's North Avenue Beach in Chicago, the Indiana 
Dunes, and the Warren Dunes in Michigan. My friends and I would play in 
the water, race down the dunes, and watch the incredible sunsets over 
waters so vast you could not see the other side. And now my family is 
reprising those wonderful times. The best part of my sons' summers are 
when we go up north to roam the shoreline of Lake Superior, swim in the 
bone-biting cold of its waters, and watch those spectacular sunsets. 
The lakes create the memories that bind our family and millions of 
others, and link my generation with my parents' and my children's.' 
They are the defining features of our physical world, our continuing 
constant.
    So it is no surprise that the Great Lakes are a top priority for 
those of us who live there. A 2003 Joyce Foundation poll asked Great 
Lakes residents if protecting and restoring the Great Lakes is 
important; 96 percent said yes. Ninety 6 percent. You can't get 96 
percent to agree on what day it is--but they agree on the importance of 
the Great Lakes.
    It is equally clear that the health of the Great Lakes is 
critically important to the Nation as a whole. Even if you live in our 
region, it is hard to appreciate their vast size and scope and how they 
define our nation's geography. These lakes constitute 95 percent of the 
surface freshwater in the United States. They have a coastline of 
10,000 miles--longer than the combined U.S. coastlines of the Atlantic 
and Pacific Oceans. They supply the drinking water, shipping, 
recreation, and economic lifeblood to millions of people in eight 
States. They constitute a 1,000-mile border between the United States 
and Canada. They are continental features that attract migratory birds 
from the Canadian Arctic to South America. Millions of migratory 
waterfowl breed in the Great Lakes and then fly to the eastern and 
southern United States to supply hunters and birdwatchers from New 
Jersey to Louisiana.
    The Great Lakes are a national resource. Tom Kiernan, the President 
of the National Parks Conservation Association and co-chair of the 
Healing Our Waters coalition puts it this way: ``The Great Lakes are 
national icons, a beautiful natural treasure you can see even from 
space. Like the majestic Grand Canyon and Everglades, these inland 
oceans help define the soul of a region and the landscape of a 
nation.'' Their national importance has prompted 11 national 
organizations to actively participate in the Healing Our Waters 
campaign to protect and restore them. Leaders from around the country--
including those from the Chesapeake Bay, Restore America's Estuaries 
and Coastal Louisiana, each of which also have national iconic status 
and pressing needs for restoration--understand the national importance 
of the Great Lakes and their need for protection and restoration:

          ``Like the Chesapeake Bay, the Great Lakes are resources of 
        national significance. They have helped shape our history as a 
        Nation and they have provided immeasurable recreational, 
        economic, and cultural opportunities for our citizens. 
        Unfortunately, they share a history of insufficient investment 
        in their protection and restoration. National attention, 
        national funding, and national commitment to the restoration of 
        natural resources like the Chesapeake Bay and the Great Lakes 
        is critical for us, as a Nation, to ensure a legacy of clean 
        water, abundant fisheries, and economic development for future 
        generations.'' Roy A. Hoagland, Esq., Vice President, 
        Environmental Protection and Restoration, Chesapeake Bay 
        Foundation
          ``The Great Lakes are extraordinary resources of national 
        importance, and they require national attention and funding to 
        get back to health. Like the Great Lakes, many of our nation's 
        Great Waters--such as Puget Sound, the Louisiana Coast, the 
        Everglades or Chesapeake Bay--are in grave condition. 
        Investments in the restoration of these critical ecosystems 
        will repay us many fold, and will benefit the Nation as a 
        whole.'' Mark Wolf-Armstrong, CEO of Restore America's 
        Estuaries.
          ``The Great Lakes are of national importance. If we can't 
        save Coastal Louisiana, we can't save the Great Lakes, and vice 
        versa. It can't be that we have to choose one place over 
        another, or we'll be set up to fail everywhere. The 
        consequences to the Nation of inaction or delay are enormous. 
        We cannot afford to wait, either here in Coastal Louisiana or 
        in the Great Lakes.'' Mark Davis, Director, Coalition to 
        Restore Coastal Louisiana

    The Great Lakes' economic importance to the Midwest and the Nation 
also is immense. The Great Lakes annually generate billions of dollars 
of economic revenue directly:

        <bullet>  Tourism in Ohio is a $7 billion industry sustaining 
        over a quarter of a million jobs.
        <bullet>  In Michigan, tourism generates $16 billion annually, 
        and in Wisconsin, $11.8 billion.
        <bullet>  Hunting, fishing and wildlife watching account for 
        more than $18 billion annually in the Great Lakes States.

    But the economic impact of the Great Lakes is far greater than 
this. Twenty-five million people rely on the Great Lakes for their 
drinking water. Industries such as auto, power, agriculture, and steel 
depend on them to supply and cool their industrial processes. Consumers 
and businesses throughout the region and the Nation rely on them for 
the shipment of goods such as grain, steel, and manufactured goods. The 
Great Lakes define not just the recreational and ecological footprint 
of the region; they drive the economic opportunities in the Midwest.
    The economy of this region is vitally important to the Nation. As 
you will hear from George Kuper, the director of the Council of Great 
Lakes Industries, fully one-third of the Nation's economic gross state 
product is produced by the Great Lakes region. And as Mr. Kuper will 
tell you, the Great Lakes are the natural infrastructure that supports 
that productivity; we believe their health is critical to our economy 
of the Midwest and the Nation.
    The Healing Our Waters Coalition is partnering with the Council of 
Great Lakes Industries and the Brookings Institution to organize an 
independent study of the ways in which investing in Great Lakes 
ecosystem restoration will support the economy of the region. When that 
study is completed, we will be happy to share it with the committee.
              a resource in peril: ``ecosystem breakdown''
    Despite their vast size, the Great Lakes are fragile. In recent 
years, the Great Lakes have been increasingly plagued by beach closings 
due to untreated sewage; invasions by harmful exotic species (on 
average, one new invasive species enters the Great Lakes every 8 
months); contamination of sportfish and commercial fish; and loss of 
habitat for wildlife. Each of these and other problems has been viewed 
as a separate challenge to be researched and addressed independently; 
few have tried to assess the condition of the Great Lakes as an 
ecosystem and design solutions on that basis. Until last year.
    Last December, over 60 of the leading scientists in the Great Lakes 
region issued an alarming report. In a paper titled ``Prescription for 
Great Lakes Ecosystem Protection and Restoration'' (accompanying this 
testimony as Appendix B), the scientists concluded that the Great Lakes 
are experiencing an historic crisis. Deterioration of large sections of 
their ecosystem is accelerating dramatically, and if not addressed now, 
the damage is likely to be irreversible. In their own words:

          ``There is widespread agreement that the Great Lakes 
        presently are exhibiting symptoms of extreme stress from a 
        combination of sources that include toxic contaminants, 
        invasive species, nutrient loading, shoreline and upland land 
        use changes, and hydrologic modifications. . . In large areas 
        of the lakes, historical sources of stress have combined with 
        new ones to reach a tipping point, the point at which 
        ecosystem-level changes occur rapidly and unexpectedly, 
        confounding the traditional relationships between sources of 
        stress and the expected ecosystem response. There is compelling 
        evidence that in many parts of the Great Lakes we are beyond 
        this tipping point. Certain areas of the Great Lakes are 
        increasingly experiencing ecosystem breakdown, where 
        intensifying levels of stress from a combination of sources 
        have overwhelmed the natural processes that normally stabilize 
        and buffer the system from permanent change.'' (emphasis added)

    The scientists' report was a surprise because to many, the Great 
Lakes and their tributaries seem to be improving. Due to fundamental 
policy shifts like the Clean Water Act, massive government investment 
in better sewers, and responsible private initiatives, rivers no longer 
catch fire; Lake Erie has come back from the dead; the water often 
looks clearer; and many pollutant indicators have improved. But such 
observations only scratch the surface, and the scientists looked much 
deeper to find an ecosystem in crisis. They have documented:
        <bullet>  The destruction of the foundation of the Great Lakes 
        food web in many of the Great Lakes. Populations of the basic 
        food group for most fish, a freshwater shrimp called Diporeia, 
        have declined from over 10,000 per square meter of lake bottom 
        to virtually zero over vast stretches of Lake Michigan and the 
        other Great Lakes. The scientists cannot be sure, but they 
        believe the decline is linked to the infestation of the Great 
        Lakes by an invasive species, the zebra mussel, which colonizes 
        the lakebeds in thick mats of shells that extend for acres and 
        acres and leaves the surrounding lakebeds barren of life. A 
        chart illustrating this decline is attached to this testimony 
        as Appendix C. NWF has produced a report describing the 
        devastating impact that invasive species have had on the Great 
        Lakes in a report titled Ecosystem Shock that can be found on 
        the Healing Our Waters Coalition website at 
        www.restorethelakes.org/reports.html.
        <bullet>  Lake Erie's so-called ``dead zone,'' an area deprived 
        of oxygen, has reappeared in central Lake Erie. Accompanying 
        this anoxic zone is the return elsewhere in the lake of blue-
        green (toxic) algae blooms, and episodic die-offs of fish and 
        fish-eating birds from avian botulism. Scientists are seeing 
        similar eutrophication problems in Lake Huron's Saginaw Bay and 
        Lake Michigan's Green Bay.
        <bullet>  Many fish populations are showing signs of stress and 
        decline in the Great Lakes. Scientists have found ``widespread 
        decline in growth, condition and numbers of yellow perch, lake 
        whitefish, and other valuable fish species in Lake Michigan and 
        portions of Lake Huron.''

    The scientists concluded that these and other large-scale ecosystem 
changes result from the loss of the Great Lakes' capacity to buffer 
themselves against sources of stress--essentially, damage to the Great 
Lakes immune system. Much of the buffering capacity for the Great Lakes 
comes from healthy near-shore communities and tributaries. As these 
areas are damaged by pollution, hydrologic modifications, invasive 
species, and shoreline development, they lose their capacity to buffer 
the Great Lakes. Without that buffering capacity, each new stress--
whether it be an invasive species or additional pollution--can set off 
a cascade of damage to the ecosystem that occurs rapidly and 
unexpectedly. In the scientists' words,

        <bullet>  ``In the Great Lakes, nonlinear changes are no longer 
        a future threat--these types of changes are taking place now. 
        While in some areas some indicators of ecosystem health have 
        continued to improve over the past decade, other large areas of 
        the lakes are undergoing rapid changes where combinations of 
        effects of old and new stresses are interacting synergistically 
        to trigger a chain reaction process of ecosystem degradation. 
        The rapidness of this chain-reaction process, seen over the 
        past 5 to 15 years and involving sudden and unpredictable 
        changes, is unique in Great Lakes recorded history.'' (emphasis 
        added)

    As alarming as the scientists' diagnosis is, they have also 
identified concrete and achievable remedies:

          restore Great Lakes buffering capacity (their immune system) 
        by restoring the ecological functions of their near-shore 
        communities and tributaries. On the ground, this means 
        restoring coastal and riverine wetlands, making shorelines and 
        watercourses more natural, and improving tributary health;
          remediate the practices that cause the sources of stress. 
        This means reducing pollution and new damaging habitat 
        alterations and stopping the entry of new invasive species;
          protect the functioning parts of the ecosystem from new 
        impairments, particularly through sustainable development 
        practices; and
          measure the health and health trends of the Great Lakes to 
        evaluate the effectiveness of the measures taken above.

    As discussed below, these remedies are reflected in the Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration's Strategy to Restore and Protect the Great 
Lakes.
     saving the great lakes: the great lakes regional collaboration
    Given the national significance of the Great Lakes and their 
rapidly accelerating deterioration, the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration (``GLRC'') recommendations come just in time. The 
Collaboration is truly an historic event in two important respects. 
First, it is the first time that all levels of government and virtually 
all private stakeholders have come together to draft and support a 
single Great Lakes restoration plan, the ``Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration Strategy.'' Over 1,500 people participated in the 
drafting of the final plan, including cities, counties, State agencies, 
tribal representatives, Federal agencies, congressional staff, 
businesses, conservation organizations, university scientists, and 
concerned citizens. Many of the scientists who drafted the 
``Prescription'' report actively participated in the Collaboration, 
helping to shape it to reflect the diagnosis and solutions in the 
report. Healing Our Waters Coalition members also were highly engaged, 
as were members of industry and local government.
    The resulting Strategy sets a second precedent: it is the most 
comprehensive Great Lakes restoration and protection plan in history. 
It documents virtually all of the problems besetting the Great Lakes; 
it recommends concrete solutions; it identifies programs to implement 
those solutions; and it recommends the funding needed for those 
programs to succeed.
    The Healing Our Waters Coalition is fully supportive of the 
Strategy's recommendations. Because it is the product of a large and 
arduous negotiation process, it certainly is not perfect; but it is by 
far the best blueprint the Great Lakes have ever had for protection and 
restoration. And if it is implemented quickly, it will give the lakes a 
fighting chance to reverse the ``chain reaction of degradation'' the 
scientists have identified and return to health.
    The Strategy's recommendations are a mix of improvements to 
existing programs, sweeping new program recommendations, and 
substantial new investments of Federal, State, tribal and private 
resources. This mix is appropriate. Some efficiencies and progress can 
be gained by improving existing programs and improving coordination 
among them. So, for example, modifying the Great Lakes Legacy Act will 
improve delivery of funds to clean up Areas of Concern. But simply 
improving existing programs is not nearly enough; even if the Legacy 
Act cleanups are made more efficient, they are woefully underfunded--
only $29 million this year, when the AOC cleanup costs will exceed $2.5 
billion. For that reason, the GLRC Strategy did not only recommend 
modifying the Legacy Act program; it also recommended substantial 
funding of $150 million annually.
    Likewise, improvements to existing programs are not enough when 
there is no effective program to begin with. The most glaring example 
is invasive species. Scientists generally agree that invasive species 
are the worst problem facing the Great Lakes. Over 185 invasive species 
have been discovered to date, and they have wreaked havoc on the Great 
Lakes, its fisheries, and its businesses. The GLRC estimates that the 
economic costs of invasive species to the Great Lakes are $5 billion 
per year. The most common pathway of invasive species into the lakes is 
via the discharge of ballast water from ocean-going ships. Yet there is 
no effective program for stopping those discharges; the Coast Guard has 
acknowledged in the Federal register that its current programs to 
control those discharges are ineffective. To address invasive species, 
then, the GLRC recommends a bold new program: new legislation and 
regulations to set and implement ballast water discharge standards that 
reflect the best technology available and protect the Great Lakes.
    For the purposes of today's testimony, I will focus on the larger 
programmatic and funding recommendations of the GLRC Strategy; but I 
want to emphasize that there are also important recommendations to 
improve existing programs that I will not discuss today. The major 
changes recommended by the Strategy and fully endorsed by the Healing 
Our Waters Coalition include:
    <bullet> Create a net increase of 550,000 acres of wetlands and 
335,000 acres of buffer strips by 2010. This recommendation, made by 
both the habitat and nonpoint source strategy teams, is critically 
important to restoring the buffering capacity of the Great Lakes; it 
aligns perfectly with the scientists' ``Prescription'' report. Losses 
of wetlands and riparian buffers have impaired coastal and tributary 
health; they have magnified pollution pathways; and they have disturbed 
native species, facilitating the establishment of invasives. In 
addition to their well-known filtering capacity for chemical 
pollutants, wetlands can actually repel invasive species and reduce an 
outbreak after they have become established. More fundamentally, they 
stabilize aquatic systems, making them more resilient to stress. 
Implementing this recommendation will not only require new Federal and 
State funding; it will also require changes to the way that agencies 
make decisions in selecting the wetlands to be restored.
    <bullet> Eliminate the discharge of untreated or inadequately 
treated sewage into the Great Lakes system through new funding and 
better enforcement. This recommendation would provide $13.75 billion of 
Federal, State and local dollars over 5 years to upgrade sewage 
treatment facilities to stop untreated sewage from damaging the Great 
Lakes and their tributaries. These funds are critical both to protect 
the health of summer beach-goers and to reduce one of the largest 
sources of stress to the near-shore coastal communities so important to 
the Great Lakes immune system. The Federal share (in a 55/45 match) 
would be $7.355 billion.
    <bullet> Stop the introduction of new invasive species through new 
laws and regulations (described above) and by erecting barriers in 
canals and waterways to repel invaders. Also, determine the feasibility 
of separating the Great Lakes and Mississippi River systems. As 
invasive species are the worst source of stress to the Great Lakes 
ecosystem, implementing these recommendations are essential; the Great 
Lakes cannot recover without them.
    <bullet> Provide adequate funding--$150 million per year--for 
cleaning up Areas of Concern under the Legacy Act (see above). These 
sources of toxic pollution permeate the sediments in regions that 
historically were some of the most biologically productive. These toxic 
sediments not only add new sources of stress to the system; they also 
prevent the lake bottom from performing its natural buffering 
functions. They are a major factor in the accelerating pattern of Great 
Lakes ecosystem breakdown, and their remediation is essential to 
restoring the Great Lakes immune system.

    <bullet> Double the Federal research budget for the Great Lakes. 
Research funds at the State and Federal level have declined in recent 
years, just as the ecosystem is exhibiting new and complex responses to 
accumulating sources of stress. To ensure that we are taking the right 
steps and spending our Federal and State investments wisely, we need to 
be able to measure impacts on the ground and in the water. Significant 
increases in research dollars are vital to making sure our investments 
are being used efficiently. A substantial portion of those increases 
need to be directed at academic research institutions; it is essential 
to bring together all of the brightest minds and innovations that 
academia brings to bear to complement the efforts in Federal 
laboratories.
                               next steps
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy expresses the 
consensus that these and other significant new actions, policy and 
funding, are urgent and essential for the Great Lakes. Delay may lead 
to massive and rapid deterioration of the lakes and cost far more than 
the actions recommended in the Strategy. If we wait, the costs will 
skyrocket. However, if we make the necessary investments now, we will 
see excellent returns, both ecological and economic.
    To implement the Strategy's recommendations in a timely way, 
several steps need to be taken, preferably concurrently. They are:

          1. A Great Lakes Restoration bill needs to be drafted and 
        enacted to implement major portions of the Strategy. The bill 
        will need to incorporate modifications to existing laws, such 
        as the Great Lakes Legacy Act (toxic cleanup) and the Lacey Act 
        (importation of invasive species). It may need to reauthorize 
        existing programs targeted at restoring wildlife habitat and 
        wetlands, such as the Great Lakes Fish and Wildlife Restoration 
        Act. It will also have new programs, such as a $40 million 
        annual program to support physical restoration of Great Lakes 
        tributaries. Finally, it will need to have much higher 
        authorization levels for existing programs, such as $150 
        million annually for the Legacy Act, $1.35 billion annually to 
        enable cities to upgrade their water infrastructure to stop raw 
        sewage from contaminating our beaches, and additional funds for 
        wetlands restoration programs. The Great Lakes Restoration bill 
        introduced by Senators DeWine, Levine and Voinovich last year 
        is a good starting point, but needs to be revised to take into 
        account the GLRC recommendations.
          2. Key policy measures can and should move independently. For 
        example, rapid enactment of the National Aquatic Invasive 
        Species Act or equivalent legislation is absolutely critical in 
        addressing invasive species, which scientists agree is the 
        worst problem plaguing the Great Lakes. Attached to this 
        testimony as Appendix D is a letter the Healing Our Waters 
        Coalition has sent to Senator Voinovich on this matter.
          3. In the short term, next year's appropriations should 
        implement the GLRC Strategy's recommendations. The Healing Our 
        Waters Coalition has culled the top budget recommendations from 
        the Strategy, consulted with the Great Lakes Mayors and the 
        Great Lakes Governors, and identified fiscal year 07 budget 
        priorities. Those are attached as Appendix E.
          4. One of the fiscal year 07 priorities deserves special 
        mention: funding to make permanent and operate the electric 
        barrier in the Chicago Sanitary Ship Canal. This barrier, now 
        temporary and lacking funds for operations, is the only 
        obstacle between a voracious invasive species, the Big-Headed 
        Asian Carp, and the Great Lakes. These carp eat every aquatic 
        organism in their path. Once into Lake Michigan, they will out-
        compete all native fish and turn the Great Lakes into a giant 
        carp farm. Funding for the barrier is absolutely critical to 
        saving the Great Lakes, their fisheries, and their economy.
                               conclusion
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration's Strategy to Restore and 
Protect the Great Lakes provides a first-ever comprehensive blueprint 
to return the Great Lakes to health, and just in time. According to 
leadings scientists, the lakes are suffering ecosystem breakdown, a 
chain reaction of degradation that could become irreversible if action 
is not taken quickly. This deterioration, if unchecked, will have 
massive ecological and economic consequences for the Midwest and the 
Nation.
    As essential and useful as the Collaboration's Strategy is, it is 
only a first step. Without implementation, it will simply become yet 
another Great Lakes plan, sitting on a shelf and gathering dust.
    We commend you, Mr. Chairman, and the members of this committee for 
your leadership in scheduling this hearing and maintain the momentum 
for Great Lakes restoration. We particularly would like to thank 
Senator Voinovich for his longstanding efforts as a champion of the 
Great Lakes.
    This committee is uniquely situated to transform the 
Collaboration's Strategy into concrete action. We encourage you to 
exercise your outstanding leadership to ensure that the Strategy's 
recommendations are implemented.
    The Great Lakes are the natural infrastructure of the Midwest, the 
industrial center of the Nation. Just as bridges and roads crumble 
without adequate investment, so are the Great Lakes deteriorating. The 
longer the wait, the more expensive the investment will be and the more 
we will lose because of the delay. On the other hand, if we act now, 
the Great Lakes will return to health, bringing with them jobs, 
recreation, tax revenues, wildlife, and the future on an entire region.

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         Response by Andy Buchsbaum to an Additional Question 
                          from Senator Inhofe
    Question. The Strategy establishes funding levels for each of its 
goals. However, there seems to be some disagreement as to who will be 
providing these funds. In your view, how much of the $20 billion in the 
Great Lakes Strategy do you expect from the Federal Government, the 
State governments and the local governments?
    Response. The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration's December 
strategy reports common-sense recommendations on how our Nation can 
restore and protect the Great Lakes. It outlines both funding and 
policy recommendations aimed at ending sewer overflows, stopping 
invasive species, and cleaning up toxic sediments. It shows that the 
strategy's goals can only be met if every stakeholder group is prepared 
to invest time and resources in protecting and restoring the Great 
Lakes.
    Overall, the GLRC's strategy recommends that about sixty percent of 
the total recommended funding of about $20.0 billion come from the 
Federal Government, forty percent from other stakeholders such as 
state, local and tribal governments and leading NGOs. We think this 
reflects an overall understanding in the Collaboration that states and 
cities are responsible for providing the match Congress requires for 
the Federal programs that contribute to Great Lakes restoration and 
protection. We feel that this is an appropriate division of what it 
will take to restore the health of the Great Lakes. We emphasize, 
however, that restoring the Great Lakes is a collaborative effort and 
all stakeholders must be willing to invest in achieving its goals, 
including NGOs and member groups of the Healing Our Waters Coalition 
who already are investing financial resources and in-kind services.
    This collaborative spirit is reflected in the GLRC's 
recommendations. For example, one recommendation in the GLRC strategy 
recommends that $13.75 billion be spent to eliminate inadequately 
treated wastewater, which is a health risk to our families, from being 
dumped into the Lakes. Sixty percent of this funding would come from 
the Federal Government; forty percent from local sources. State and 
tribal governments and leading non-governmental organizations have also 
demonstrated a willingness to match wetlands funding provided by 
Federal agencies and Congress.
    It is also important to note that there are some programs that 
should be funded solely by the U.S. Government like programs 
implementing the international conventions with Canada, Japan, Mexico 
and Russia for the protection of shared migratory bird resources, the 
1955 convention on Great Lakes fisheries, and the 1909 Boundary Waters 
Treaty. The United States has interstate obligations that must be met 
in order to fully protect and restore this resource. Funding for the 
Asian carp barrier, for example, and other Army Corps projects has 
benefits beyond the States bordering the Great Lakes. These obligations 
are known and should be fully funded by the Federal Government without 
State or municipal support.
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          Responses by Andy Buchsbaum to Additional Questions 
                         from Senator Jeffords
    Question 1. Can you elaborate on and submit any materials for the 
record regarding your explanation of the scientific assessment of the 
health of the Great Lakes?
    Response. The best description of the scientific assessment of the 
health of the Great Lakes is the paper published by 60 of the Great 
Lakes region's leading scientists: Prescription for Great Lakes 
Ecosystem Protection and Restoration. The paper cites 44 specific 
scientific studies, and identifies an additional 27 studies as general 
references. One of the paper's authors, Dr. Donald Scavia (Professor 
and Sea Grant Director, University of Michigan) has prepared testimony 
for a hearing of the House Science and Technology Committee that 
further explains this assessment. His testimony and the original 
Prescription paper, with its listing of additional sources, are 
provided with these responses.
    In addition, the National Wildlife Federation published a study 
documenting the collapse of the foundation of the Great Lakes food web. 
That study, Ecosystem Shock: The Devastating Impacts of Invasive 
Species on the Great Lakes Food Web, is also provided here.

    Question 2. Can you describe your thoughts on the need for 
comprehensive invasive species legislation?
    Response. The scientists in the two studies referenced above 
(Prescription and Ecosystem Shock), as well as Dr. Scavia in his 
testimony, identify the introduction of invasive species into the Great 
Lakes as one of the most severe and urgent threats to the integrity of 
the lakes' ecosystems. The reason is simple: with over 180 invasive 
species already established in the Great Lakes and one new invader 
entering the lakes on an average of every 28 weeks, the lakes cannot 
hope to establish any sort of ecological equilibrium, and instead are 
seeing increasing episodes of ecosystem breakdowns. The collapse of the 
foundation of the food web in large stretches of the bottoms of the 
lakes described in the Ecosystem Shock report has been attributed to 
these invasions.
    The scientists and many others recommend a comprehensive approach 
to preventing new introductions. Most invasive species (e.g., zebra and 
quagga mussels) historically have entered the Great Lakes via 
discharges from ballast water. But ballast water controls are not 
enough; others (e.g., sea lamprey) have entered via canals, and still 
others through intentional introductions. We need comprehensive 
legislation to address all vectors.
    The Great Lakes ecosystem has not only felt the devastating impacts 
of invasive species, it has also unfortunately been the gateway for new 
invaders into other U.S. waters. For example, the zebra mussel has 
spread as far west as Oklahoma and continues its march across America's 
inland lakes and streams, threatening those ecosystems, fish and 
wildlife as it goes. Science tells us that invasive species anywhere 
are a threat to ecosystems everywhere, and the proof can be seen in 
some of the country's most magnificent natural resources: San Francisco 
Bay, Chesapeake Bay, Coastal Louisiana, to name a few. Once a non-
native species establishes itself, it is there for good. When it comes 
to an effective policy to deal with invasive species, prevention is the 
key, which is why the Nation needs a strong, comprehensive solution to 
deal with the problem that afflicts United States and international 
waters.

    Question 3. I want to thank you for your support for the Lake 
Champlain Canal Barrier project. Can you elaborate on how important 
that project and the Chicago Sanitary Ship Canal Barriers are for the 
Great Lakes?
    Response These two barriers are absolutely critical. Canals and 
other channels provide routes in and out of the Great Lakes for 
invasive species that are highly damaging. For example, sea lamprey 
have devastated the Great Lakes trout fishery, and states and the 
Federal Government now must spend millions each year in order to 
control them.
    Now, Asian carp are traveling up the Chicago Sanitary and Ship 
Canal and are poised to invade Lake Michigan. If they do, they will 
quickly decimate the existing ecosystem, turning the Great Lakes into 
what one scientist has called a ``giant carp farm.'' The Chicago 
Sanitary Ship Canal Barrier is the only measure standing between the 
Asian carp and the Great Lakes; it is the only thing saving the Great 
Lakes from a completely devastated ecosystem and loss of high-value 
fisheries (trout, walleye, whitefish and perch). Congress must 
authorize the completion and operation and maintenance of this bather 
any way it can.
    Likewise, the proposed Lake Champlain Canal barrier is essential in 
closing another invasive species vector to the Great Lakes: stopping 
invasive species from traveling up through the Hudson, into Lake 
Champlain, and then into the Great Lakes system via the St. Lawrence 
Seaway. The Lake Champlain bather will have important benefits for the 
Lake Champlain and the Great Lakes.
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          Responses by Andy Buchsbaum to Additional Questions 
                         from Senator Voinovich
    Question 1. What is the next critical step for the Collaboration?
    Response. The Collaboration needs to take two steps: one, establish 
short-term measures, and two, set up long-term success. In the short 
term, the Collaboration should develop a list of priority budget and 
policy recommendations made in the GLRC strategy. For example, passage 
of the National Aquatic Invasive Species Act is probably the highest 
priority policy recommendation in the strategy, and should be a 
legislative priority for the Collaboration. On the budget side, the 
Great Lakes states and cities have identified priority budget items, as 
has the Healing Our Waters Coalition. These similar budget 
recommendations should be the Collaboration's fiscal year 2007 budget 
priorities.
    An immediate step that can be taken, which would show clear 
commitment to this process, is for Congress to provide funding for the 
almost identical priorities of the states and cities and non-government 
organizations. We have a restoration blueprint that is backed by 
science and has the support of the region's leaders. A down payment now 
will demonstrate to citizens that our Nation's leaders understand that 
we cannot wait to address the problems facing the lakes. To do so only 
makes the problems worse and more expensive to solve.
    In the long term, the Collaboration should recruit co-sponsors and 
additional champions for legislation designed to implement the 
Strategy--the Great Lakes Collaboration Implementation Act--and other 
legislation that will provide the Great Lakes region with the resources 
necessary to meet the Strategy's many recommendations. The 
Collaboration must also continue to set short-term budget priorities to 
ensure that we are spending taxpayer dollars wisely and effectively.
    In taking these steps, the Collaboration needs to reconvene and 
begin identifying concrete ways to both fulfill the GLRC strategy's 
recommendations and meet its goals. The Collaboration is the perfect 
venue to clarify future responsibilities of GLRC stakeholders. It also 
should report back to Congress and the public on the weaknesses and 
strengths of strategy implementation.

    Question 2. How can we best coordinate this massive restoration 
effort?
    Response. We believe that the mechanisms codified in the Great 
Lakes Restoration bill (Great Lakes Collaboration Implementation Act) 
will help coordinate the restoration effort: the coordination of 
Federal efforts through the Interagency Task Force and the coordination 
of all efforts by the Executive Committee of the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration. We also believe that there needs to be a special 
emphasis on the role of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's 
Great Lakes National Program Office. We make these recommendations with 
two caveats. First, the Interagency Task Force needs to have full 
participation by high-level officials from all the agencies. The bill 
makes it a task force of the U.S. EPA, creating the risk that it will 
be viewed as a creature of U.S. EPA and not a multi-agency effort where 
other agencies have full responsibilities and accountability. The EPA's 
oversight role, however, must be scrutinized. Second, the GLRC 
Executive Committee will be an effective coordinating body only if it 
fully engages all stakeholders in the region--state, local, tribal and 
non-governmental organizations--and remains responsive to their 
concerns and recommendations. We believe the bill has the proper 
structure to lead to that result, but the way the bill is implemented 
will be critical.

    Question 3. How can we better coordinate Great Lakes programs at 
all levels of government so that we are more efficient and effective?
    Response. As discussed above, through the Great Lakes Regional 
Collaboration and the mechanisms established in the GLRC implementation 
bill. The implementation bill's reporting requirements gives Congress 
the opportunity to conduct proper oversight on the implementation of 
the GLRC.

    Question 4. What can the environmental community do to raise the 
profile of this restoration effort beyond the region? Canada?
    Response. There is no single, easy answer to these questions, and 
they are ones that we have wrestled with for years. As to the first 
question, we have embarked on a multi-pronged strategy:
    First, we must take advantage of the fact that many people outside 
the Great Lakes region know and love the lakes, either from visiting or 
because they used to live near them. Millions of people have enjoyed 
the lakes and the outdoor recreational opportunities they present, 
including world- class fishing, swimming, hunting, camping, and hiking 
The Healing Our Waters-Great Lakes Coalition plans to activate the 
support of this large population of Great Lakes supporters from outside 
the region through national media and outreach efforts.
    Second, we must document the national economic benefits that Great 
Lakes restoration will provide. The Great Lakes region is responsible 
for producing a third (32.5 percent) of the U.S. gross State product 
[based on Gross State Product, 2004] with less than a quarter of the 
Nation's population. The HOW Coalition is co-sponsoring a Brookings 
Institution study with the Council of Great Lakes Industries to show 
the benefits of Great Lakes restoration to the Great Lakes and national 
economies.
    Third, we must encourage members of Congress from outside the 
region to visit and appreciate the Great Lakes.
    Lastly, environmental and conservation organizations in Canada are 
also working on Great Lakes restoration. For example, organizations in 
the two countries are coordinating work on the Great Lakes Water 
Quality Agreement, a bi-national agreement that addresses not just 
Great Lakes water quality but also toxic sediment cleanup and ecosystem 
integrity. The Water Quality Agreement provides a forum to enhance the 
coordination of protecting and restoring the Great Lakes between our 
two countries. We address this issue in more depth below.

    Question 5. What is the key to keeping together all of the groups 
involved in the creation of the blueprint strategy in order to 
implement the goals established by the Collaboration?
    Response. The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration must continue to 
be convened in order that its recommendations can be implemented, 
modified when appropriated and adapted to new information and science. 
The Collaboration must also be able to review progress and report to 
the American public on the strengths and weaknesses of implementing the 
2005 strategy.
    It is also critical that the GLRC continue to forward meaningful 
recommendations that are based on current science and reflect progress 
that has been made. The GLRC should not be convened just to gather and 
share information. Instead, it should continue to serve as a forum for 
what needs to be done to restore and protect the Great Lakes. It should 
also serve as the clearinghouse for what the restoration priorities 
should be for each calendar and fiscal year. The GLRC should be able to 
tell Congress and the public each year what projects and programs are 
significant towards achieving the goals established through the 
collaborative effort. The benefit of using the GLRC for priority 
setting is that it builds a strong political constituency who all agree 
on specific steps and benchmarks for achieving success. This process 
also ensures fiscal accountability at every level of government.
    There has been a high level of interest and participation among 
non-governmental organizations throughout the GLRC process. There also 
needs to be continuing high-level participation from government 
agencies, both at the Federal, State and local levels. Restoring and 
protecting the lakes will take time and citizens need to know that its 
elected leaders are truly invested in achieving the Collaboration's 
goals. This means Federal agencies investing time in the Interagency 
Task Force as well as the IATF and the GLRC executive committee--which 
is made up of state, city and tribal representatives--continuing to 
make Great Lakes restoration and protection a top priority.
    Clearly, a financial commitment by the GLRC to defray the travel 
costs of GLRC stakeholders would demonstrate interest in keeping the 
collaboration together. All stakeholders, including the non-
governmental organizations, must also have a say in setting the 
collaboration agenda.
    The Healing Our Waters-Great Lakes Coalition holds an annual 
conference on Great Lakes restoration every year. We are prepared to 
provide this forum as an in-kind contribution for the GLRC to convene 
and set next year's Great Lakes restoration and protection priorities.

    Question 6. How are the Coalition and the entire Collaboration 
working with Canada and their restoration activities?
    Response. There are existing venues of binational cooperation on 
Great Lakes issues like the Lakewide Management Plan processes, the 
Binational Toxics Strategy, and the Great Lakes Water Quality 
Agreement. Some of these provide roles for non-governmental 
communities. Nonetheless, working with Canada on the kind of Great 
Lakes restoration currently being discussed--the. combination of 
dramatic improvement in the coordination of existing Great Lakes 
programs with a substantial increase in overall effort--is challenging 
because U.S. State governors and Members of Congress have put that kind 
of restoration on the political agenda while the provincial premiers 
and Canadian Federal legislators to the same extent have not. Thus for 
the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration (GLRC) and the Healing Our 
Waters (HOW) Coalition alike, ``working with Canada'' on restoration 
requires a degree of unilateral action.
    For the Collaboration, working with Canada involved facilitating 
the presence of Canadian observers, who, unfortunately, preferred not 
to actively participate. There was perhaps an overvalued deference to 
existing Great Lakes binational discussion venues where Canada and the 
United States are on more equal footing. The Collaboration's strategy 
reflected this lack of participation, generally mentioning Canada only 
five times in the seventy-page document. The existing venues of 
binational cooperation noted above constitute the limits of the status 
quo. HOW hopes that implementation of the Strategy's more comprehensive 
recommendations is more directive than implied by the Strategy.
    For the HOW Coalition, we are working with Canadian environmental 
non-governmental allies and mid-level officials in an effort to create 
equal fervor for restoration on both sides of the border. Coalition 
members rather than the Coalition itself are leading in this work so 
far. For example, the Alliance for the Great Lakes, Great Lakes United, 
and the Biodiversity Project are engaged with the Canadian 
Environmental Law Association over the official review of the Great 
Lakes Water Quality Agreement (GLWQA). Their intent is to integrate 
ideas from the new restoration strategy into the potentially powerful, 
if arguably currently moribund, existing mechanisms provided by the 
GLWQA.
    Great Lakes United also brings together on a routine basis Canadian 
and U.S. environmental organizations to develop common positions and 
action plans. The Sierra Club in the United States works in tandem with 
its Canadian counterpart. The Michigan-based Great Lakes Aquatic 
Habitat Network and Fund also supports initiatives on both sides of the 
border. Finally, in order to foster stronger support among decision-
makers, HOW member groups are also conducting valuable Canadian public 
opinion polling to determine how and why the Canadian public values the 
Great Lakes and what efforts to protect it they will support. Member 
groups like Great Lakes United are also educating the Canadian federal 
and provincial Parliaments on the opportunities and long-term payoffs 
of enhanced Great Lakes restoration, maintaining full partnership in an 
enhanced U.S. effort being one of those payoffs.
    Clearly, more must be done in working with Canada if U.S. efforts 
to protect this international treasure will be successful. Accordingly, 
the Healing Our Waters Coalition recommends that Congress consider:
    <bullet> Using existing or new processes for binational restoration 
consultation. Specifically, provide placeholders for Canadian 
participation in all U.S. Great Lakes programs, when appropriate, with 
use of such placeholders by Canadian officials conditional on 
reciprocation.
    <bullet> Enhancing U.S. Federal support for monitoring and research 
and requires commonality in data standards between both countries and 
the most extensive possible binational exploration of research needs in 
advance of conducting such research.
    <bullet> Ensuring direct dialogue on Great Lakes needs between 
United States and Canadian legislators.
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    Statement of Diane Katz, Director of Science, Environment, and 
        Technology Policy, The Mackinac Center for Public Policy
    Mr. Chairman and Honorable Senators, good morning. My name is Diane 
Katz, and I am director of science, environment and technology policy 
for the Mackinac Center for Public Policy. The Mackinac Center is a 
Michigan-based, nonpartisan research and educational institute that 
assists lawmakers, the media and the public in evaluating policy 
options. I greatly appreciate the opportunity to join this discussion 
of the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy.
    In the interest of brevity and clarity, I will speak plainly.
    Before you is an ambitious Strategy intended to ``restore'' the 
Great Lakes ecosystem. Using passionate language, the architects of 
this Strategy claim that we have ``failed to protect'' our beloved 
Great Lakes. Putting aside, for the moment, legitimate differences of 
opinion about the actual state of the lakes, there is broad agreement 
that our stewardship of these amazing waters requires significant 
change. But the shortcomings of the current approach stem not from any 
lack of regulation or resources, as the Strategy report contends. On 
the contrary, the problem is the excess of well-intended but ill-
conceived programs that fall under disjointed regulatory agencies at 
the international, Federal, State, provincial and local levels.
    Unfortunately, the problem will not be remedied by the Great Lakes 
Regional Collaboration Strategy, which prescribes more unwieldy and 
inefficient regulation. As the report states, the Strategy was 
``developed through an inclusive process aimed at achieving the 
broadest consensus possible.'' That means the Strategy is more a 
product of the political process than the scientific method--just like 
the existing regime.
    Numerous restoration strategies for the lakes have been hatched 
over the years. Most, if not all, have advocated an expansion of the 
regulatory state. But we will achieve better results only by applying 
the most basic truths of good governance that incentives are more 
powerful than punishment; that sound science yields better results than 
rhetoric; and, most importantly, that citizens are far better stewards 
of their property than the State will ever be.
    There is no definitive accounting of the billions of dollars 
allocated for Great Lakes programs. That in itself says a great deal 
about the status quo. There is also no comprehensive accounting of the 
numerous Great Lakes programs initiated over the past three decades. To 
fill this information gap, the Mackinac Center has undertaken a 
``census'' of Great Lakes programs that so far has identified more than 
200 Government initiatives. Many lack measurable goals, and there's 
little of the coordination necessary to maximize environmental 
improvements.
    Rationalizing these myriad programs was the principal task of the 
eight Strategy teams that crafted the restoration plan. What has 
materialized instead is a regulatory wish list that is sweeping in 
scope but limited in scientific and economic rationale. Hopefully, the 
Executive Committee will pursue meaningful change rather than tinkering 
at the margins. This would entail identifying for elimination the 
dozens of redundant, ineffective programs, while also advocating for 
the restoration of property rights, common law and impartial risk 
assessment as the foundation of Great Lakes stewardship. The lakes 
deserve no less.
    The Strategy also suffers from internal inconsistency. On the one 
hand, the report laments the failure of existing programs to adequately 
protect the Great Lakes. On the other hand, the Strategy calls for 
greatly expanding the regulatory powers of the very government agencies 
that the Strategy argues have mismanaged the job. It's time to abandon 
the command-and-control methods that empowers the environmental 
bureaucracy.
    It is further confounding that implementation of the Strategy is 
assigned exclusively to Federal cabinet officials, Governors, mayors 
and American Indian tribal leaders. But successful stewardship requires 
market-based approaches that rely on private sector input.
    The Strategy is also compromised by its underlying supposition that 
the Great Lakes are teetering on the verge of collapse. According to 
the report, ``Our Great Lakes. . . are succumbing to an irreversible 
`invasional meltdown.' ''
    In fact, water quality has improved dramatically during the past 
three decades in large measure because of more efficient technologies. 
As stated in Michigan's 2006 report, Water Quality and Pollution 
Control, ``The open waters of the Great Lakes have good to excellent 
water quality.'' Indeed, wildlife is thriving, with hatchery stocks 
comprising less than 20 percent of the trout population in Lake 
Superior. Moreover, eagle sightings have soared, while analyses of 
blood and feathers document a dramatic decrease in PCB concentrations 
compared to a decade ago. Likewise, trout samples taken from four Great 
Lakes show an 85 percent drop in PCB concentrations, from a high of 
more than 20 parts per million (ppm) in the early 1970's to less than 3 
ppm more recently. The fall fish survey by the Wisconsin Department of 
Natural Resources recorded double the number of juvenile perch than the 
previous record, set in 1989, when the survey was launched. Mercury 
levels are lower, while lead accumulations have declined in every 
sample since the 1980's.
    Nor has public access to the Great Lakes seriously diminished 
despite such claims in the Strategy report. Michigan state forests, for 
example, provide 485 water access sites. The 96 State parks in the 
Great Lakes State feature a total of 100 boat launches. Two national 
lakeshores, Pictured Rocks and Sleeping Bear Dunes, span miles of Great 
Lakes coast.
    Missing from the Strategy report is any examination of government's 
role in exacerbating contamination of the lakes. Agricultural 
subsidies, for example, have long contributed to excessive use of 
pesticides, fungicides and herbicides, while water and sewage treatment 
grants have produced inefficient facilities. In Michigan, more than 45 
percent of the cases settled by the water enforcement bureau in the 
past 15 years involved errant municipalities, as well as counties and 
other public entities.
    The infiltration of non-native species is a legitimate concern. But 
a lack of comprehensive data has precluded informed decisionmaking on 
environmental priorities. No basin-wide monitoring currently exists. 
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has largely relied on a 
shrinking set of indicators to gauge basin conditions.
    Many government agencies only collect data on program inputs, not 
outcomes. We know, for example, that $37 million has been allocated 
this year for the Drinking Water State Revolving Fund. But there never 
has been an independent evaluation of program effectiveness, according 
to the Federal Office of Management and Budget. Similarly, the 
Pesticide Enforcement Grant Program measures success only by the rate 
of inspections that result in enforcement action, rather than any 
actual reduction of pesticide runoff.
    The Collaboration Strategy does emphasize a need for ``consistent 
methods to measure and monitor key indicators of the ecosystem's 
function.'' All of which would be most welcome. But unless and until we 
abolish ineffective programs, there isn't likely to be funding 
available to properly launch new research initiatives.
    The waste of resources is rampant. For example, some 88 research 
vessels operate independently in the Great Lakes, according to the 
Great Lakes Association of Science Ships. Or consider that the Great 
Lakes Water Quality Initiative (GLI) targets discharges from point 
sources despite the fact that non-point sources, such as air 
depositions and agricultural runoff, are now the greater sources of 
pollution. Moreover, many of the chemicals regulated under GLI have 
long been restricted or banned.
    The sheer number of proposed regulatory initiatives belies any 
claim that the Strategy establishes priorities. Science would offer the 
most reliable guidance for such a task. Unfortunately, a good many of 
the regulatory goals are as unscientific as they are unrealistic, which 
undercuts the credibility of the plan. For example, the Strategy calls 
for preventing ``all new introductions'' of aquatic invasive species 
into the Great Lakes, as well as the elimination of ``any or all'' 
persistent toxic substances to the ecosystem. But non-native species 
are an unavoidable fact of nature, as are naturally occurring toxics.
    It is also important to recognize that a zero-tolerance mentality 
toward resource use forecloses the development of environmentally 
friendly technologies, and in doing so diminishes the wealth creation 
necessary to further enhance environmental improvements. Well-meaning 
though it may be, this doesn't make effective policy.
    Ideological absolutes also exacerbate the difficulties of 
negotiating the policy tradeoffs necessitated by limited resources. But 
even if we were to devote $20 billion more to lakes' protection, as 
called for in the Strategy, the benefits would not be commensurate with 
costs. Major pollution sources are now under control and, for the most 
part, we are left to make marginal improvements that are much harder to 
achieve. Just as dieters struggle hardest to shed those last unwanted 
pounds, so, too, does further progress on the environmental front 
demand more concentrated effort. Now more than ever, then, more 
effective policy is needed, but the Strategy will only put that further 
out of reach.
    In presenting this critique, it is not my intention to denigrate 
the efforts of task force members. Their public service is admirable. 
But meaningful progress in Great Lakes restoration requires more than 
good intentions. It requires political courage in tandem with the 
application of sound science and time-tested economic principles. 
Toward that end, I recommend:
    <bullet> Eliminating programs that cannot document environmental 
improvements commensurate with costs.
    <bullet> A greater reliance on property rights and market-based 
incentives to revive areas of concern.
    <bullet> Private-sector involvement in crafting more effective 
Great Lakes policy.
    <bullet> Scrutiny of government's role in exacerbating 
contamination of the lakes.
    <bullet> Development of a basin-wide data base of ecological 
conditions with which to set stewardship priorities and determine 
effective remedies.
    <bullet> Ongoing measurement of program outcomes, not inputs.
    These recommendations spring not from mere ideology alone, although 
I fervently believe in limited government. These recommendations 
reflect fundamental principles of governance that have long proven to 
be the most successful in fulfilling policy goals. Finally, these 
recommendations are rooted in my summers spent floating in Lake Huron, 
climbing Lake Michigan dunes, and quenching my thirst with Superior's 
chilly waters Isle Royale. Such adventures are invaluable to the human 
spirit, and more effective stewardship will help to ensure that the 
same opportunities exist for generations to come.
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  Response by Diane Katz to an Additional Question from Senator Inhofe
    Question. Mr. Andy Buchsbaum expressed disagreement with your 
characterization of the health of the Great Lakes. How do you respond 
to his criticisms of your statement and what do you believe to be the 
current state of the Great Lakes?
    Response. The question posed by Senator Jeffords to Mr. Buchsbaum 
was based on a faulty premise. As the hearing transcript shows, the 
Senator asked Mr. Buchsbaum to explain ``the difference between the 
scientific assessment of the Great Lakes with the view presented by Ms. 
Katz.'' In so doing, Senator Jeffords erroneously insinuated that my 
testimony lacked scientific merit as compared to the opinions offered 
by Mr. Buchsbaum. That is not the case, as the data below affirms.
    Mr. Buchsbaum did not rebut my testimony directly. In fact, he 
concurred with my overall assessment that water quality has improved, 
stating: ``(A)s Ms. Katz said, water quality is better, there are some 
indicators that have gone up, some of the Government reports are 
somewhat favorable.''
    I hold that Great Lakes water quality has improved overall. Indeed, 
the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, which is not prone to 
optimism, has concluded that, ``The Great Lakes have improved 
tremendously.''\1\ That is not to say there aren't ecological 
challenges to overcome. The infiltration of non-native species, for 
example, is a legitimate concern. But in the absence of basin-wide 
monitoring and coordinated research, it is difficult to determine the 
extent of the problem or the most beneficial course of action.
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    \1\ U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, ``Great Lakes Ecosystem 
Report,'' Great Lakes National Program Office, Washington, DC, January 
2001.
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    The following facts informed my testimony about the state of the 
Great Lakes:
    <bullet> Ten of seventeen United States/Canadian goals for the 
reduction of Level 1 toxic substances in the lakes have been achieved, 
and three others will be reached this year.\2\ Progress toward the 
remaining four goals will be well advanced by year's end. (The Level 1 
toxics include mercury, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCB), dioxins/
furans, hexachlorozensene (HCB), benso (a) pyrene (B(a)P), 
octachlorostyrene (OCS), alkyl-lead, aldrin, dieldrin, mirex, 
chlordane, toxaphene, and DDT.)
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    \2\ U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Environment Canada, 
``Great Lakes Binational Toxic Strategy Progress Report 2004,'' 
Chicago, IL. http://binational.net/bns/2004glbts en.pdf
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    <bullet> According to the State of the Great Lakes 2005, ``Over the 
last 30 years, a decrease in the amount of contaminants in the Great 
Lakes suggests overall improvement. There is a marked reduction in 
levels of toxic chemicals in air, water, biota and sediments.''\3\
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    \3\ U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Environment Canada, 
``State of the Great Lakes 2005,'' Chicago, IL; Toronto, Ont.
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    <bullet> Wild lake trout are abundant in Lake Superior once again. 
(Lake trout are good indicators of aquatic ecosystem health because of 
their potential extended life span.) As reported by the Michigan 
Department of Environmental Quality, ``Currently, lake trout 
populations are nearly rehabilitated in all areas of Michigan's waters 
of Lake Superior . . . Hatchery lake trout comprise less than 20 
percent of lake trout abundance.''\4\
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    \4\ Harrison, K.G. (Ed.), ``State of Michigan's Environment 2005: 
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    <bullet> PCB levels in lake trout in the Great Lakes have declined 
dramatically.\5\ PCB levels have also declined in Chinook salmon from 
Lakes Michigan and Huron, leading to cancellation of the Chinook 
consumption advisory.
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    \5\ Harrison, K.G. (Ed.), State of Michigan's Environment 2005: 
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    <bullet> The bald eagle population has increased from a low of 50 
nests in 1961 to 427 in 2004.\6\ (The bald eagle is recognized as a 
useful indicator of environmental health by the International Joint 
Commission and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.)
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    <bullet> Bald eagle productivity, measured as the number of young 
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    <bullet> PCB levels in the blood of bald eagles have fallen 
``dramatically,'' according to the Michigan Department of Environmental 
Quality.\7\
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    \7\ Harrison, K.G. (Ed.), State of Michigan's Environment 2005: 
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    <bullet> The Environmental Protection Agency reports that 
``nutrient targets have largely been achieved.''\8\ The decline in 
phosphorus has reduced excess algae growth and changed the composition 
of the algal population.\9\ Nuisance algal species have given way to 
more desirable and historically prevalent species.
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    \8\ U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Environment Canada, 
``Great Lakes Binational Toxic Strategy Progress Report 2004,'' 
Chicago, IL. http://binational.net/bns/2004gjbts en.pdf
    \9\ U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Environment Canada, 
``The Great Lakes: An Environmental Atlas and Resource Book,'' 1995, 
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    <bullet> Concentrations of PCBs, hexachlorobenzene and mirex in 
suspended sediments in Lake Ontario and Lake Erie decreased between 38 
percent and 74 percent from 1997 to 2000.\10\
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    \10\ Marvin, Christopher H.; Sverko, Ed; Charlton, Murray N.; 
Thiessen, P.P. Lina; Painter, Scott, ``Contaminants Associated with 
Suspended Sediments in Lakes Erie and Ontario, 1997-2000,'' Journal of 
Great Lakes Research, Vol. 30, No. 2, pp. 277-286, International 
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           Response by Diane Katz to an Additional Question 
                         from Senator Jeffords
    Question. On what scientific documents and peer reviewed studies do 
you base your assessment of the state of the Great Lakes ecosystem and 
the level of risk posed to that ecosystem should restoration actions 
not be taken?
    Response. My most recent assessment of the state of the Great Lakes 
is based on the documents and studies listed below, as well as dozens 
of other studies and research documents that I have read and critiqued 
in the course of my 15 years of researching and reporting on the Great 
Lakes. Most of my sources are the very regulatory agencies that would 
assume additional authority and funding should Congress approve the 
collaboration strategy the Senator advocates.
    I did not suggest in my testimony--nor do I believe--that 
restoration actions should not be taken. Therefore, I have no documents 
or studies to cite for such a conclusion. Finding fault with the Great 
Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy does not mean that I oppose 
restoration actions. On the contrary, my testimony includes six 
specific recommendations to improve stewardship of the Great Lakes.
    1. Bails, Jack et al., ``Prescription for Great Lakes Ecosystem 
Protection and Restoration (Avoiding the Tipping Point of Irreversible 
Changes),'' December 2005.
    2. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, ``Great Lakes Ecosystem 
Report,'' Great Lakes National Program Office, Washington, D.C., 
January 2001.
    3. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Environment Canada, 
``Great Lakes Binational Toxic Strategy Progress Report 2004,'' 
Chicago, IL.
    4. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Environment Canada, 
``State of the Great Lakes 2005,'' Chicago, IL; Toronto, Ont.
    5. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Environment Canada, 
``The Great Lakes: An Environmental Atlas and Resource Book, Chicago, 
IL; Toronto, Ont., 1995.
    6. Marvin, Christopher H. et al., ``Contaminants Associated with 
Suspended Sediments in Lakes Erie and Ontario, 1997-2000,'' Journal of 
Great Lakes Research, Vol. 30, No. 2, pp. 277-286, International 
Association for Great Lakes Research, 2004.
    7. Sagoff, Mark, ``Do Non-Native Species Threaten the Natural 
Environment,'' Journal of Agricultural and Environmental Ethics, Vo. 
18, pp. 215-236, 2005.
    8. U.S. General Accounting Office, ``Great Lakes: An Overall 
Strategy and Indicators for Measuring Progress Are Needed to Better 
Achieve Restoration Goals,'' Washington, DC, April 2003.
    9. U.S. General Accounting Office, ``Invasive Species: Federal 
Efforts and State Perspectives on Challenges and National Leadership,'' 
Washington, DC, June 2003.
    10. U.S. General Accounting Office, ``Great Lakes: Organizational 
Leadership and Restoration Goals Need to be Better Defined for 
Monitoring Restoration Progress,'' Washington, DC, September 2004.
    11. U.S. General Accounting Office, ``Great Lakes Initiative,'' EPA 
Needs to Better Ensure the Complete and Consistent Implementation of 
Water Quality Standards,'' Washington, DC, July 2005.
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Response by Diane Katz to an Additional Question from Senator Voinovich
    Question. What are your thoughts on S. 208? How would you envision 
a program to monitor the Lakes?
    Response. I regard S. 208 as a well-intended but flawed attempt to 
improve monitoring of Great Lakes water quality.
    This legislation, if enacted, would direct the Great Lakes National 
Program Office to ``develop, implement, monitor and report on 
indicators of water quality and related environmental factors.'' Such a 
delegation of responsibility is ill-advised. The Great Lakes National 
Program Office already has failed to develop environmental indicators 
as called for under the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement. According 
to a 2003 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office:

          Since our 1988 report on EPA's management, GAO has stressed 
        numerous times that EPA place priority on developing indicators 
        to guide the agency's priority setting, strategic planning, and 
        resource allocation . . . EPA has not initiated or planned an 
        institutional framework with clear lines of responsibility and 
        accountability for developing and using environmental 
        indicators, and no processes, procedures, or work plans exist 
        to link the results of the initiative with EPA's strategic 
        planning and performance reporting cycle.

    Moreover, as the GAO stated in a 2004 report, the EPA and its Great 
Lakes National Program Office (GLNPO) have also failed to lead and 
coordinate Great Lakes restoration efforts. ``This role has never been 
completely filled by GLNPO because it has not fully exercised its 
coordination authority,'' the GAO concluded. ``Other organizations have 
attempted to fill the void.''
    S. 208 is also problematic because it employs only vague language 
in dictating the type of indicators and monitoring to be developed by 
the EPA, i.e. ``a set of science-based indicators of water quality and 
related environmental factors.'' Such statutory generalities grant too 
great a degree of discretion to a regulatory agency with a long and 
troubled history of ``mission creep.'' An explicit statement of 
monitoring priorities is needed to ensure that legitimate policy goals 
are achieved.
    The authorizations outlined in S. 208 are excessive, particularly 
in light of the lack of accounting for the billions of dollars 
appropriated to numerous Great Lakes programs over the past three 
decades. Funding for the development of indicators and basin-wide 
monitoring should be generated by eliminating existing programs that 
cannot document environmental improvements commensurate with costs.
    Developing a set of credible and relevant indicators is no easy 
task. I recommend that Congress first demand an accounting of existing 
indicator sets and monitoring activities before launching a new 
initiative. And given the technical and political pitfalls of 
developing a new monitoring regime, Private researchers would be 
preferable to government bureaucrats who have already failed to fulfill 
their responsibilities for monitoring restoration progress.
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Statement of William G. Howland, Basin Program Manager, Lake Champlain 
                             Basin Program
    Chairman Senator Inhofe, Ranking Member Senator Jeffords, 
distinguished members of the committee, thank you for inviting me here 
today to testify about The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy 
to Restore and Protect the Great Lakes.
    I will speak today about the tremendous importance to our Nation of 
preserving and improving water quality in the Great Lakes and St. 
Lawrence hydrological system.
    Before taking my position managing the Lake Champlain Basin Program 
nearly 7 years ago, I was a staff scientist in an environmental 
engineering firm, a member of the research faculty at McGill University 
specializing in military geosciences with a doctorate in biophysical 
remote sensing, and served on the faculty of the University of Vermont 
and Middlebury College.
    I have a working knowledge of the water quality challenges facing 
large lakes across the Nation. And I appreciate the pressing need for 
Federal leadership in restoring and sustaining ecosystems that have 
become impaired through the development of our American society. The 
Great Lakes represent quite literally the greatest water quality 
challenge faced by our Nation.
    The Lake Champlain Basin Program is a bi-state and international 
partnership to restore water quality and improve the economy of the 
Lake Champlain Basin. Our partnership, now in its 15th year, involves 
the States of Vermont and New York, the Province of Quebec, New England 
Water Pollution Control Commission, and numerous U.S. Federal Agencies, 
including the USEPA, the USDA, USDI, and the USACE.
    The Lake Champlain Basin Program partners all work to implement a 
single comprehensive management plan called Opportunities for Action--
An Evolving Plan for the Future of the Lake Champlain Basin. Our 
partnership with Federal agencies is highly effective and through our 
work to restore our lake ecosystem, we are ensuring a better economic 
future for citizens of our region. The water quality of Lake Champlain 
is vitally important to our regional economy, particularly the tourism 
and recreation economy for which Vermont and the north country of New 
York are so well known.
    Among the lessons learned in our work in the Lake Champlain Basin 
Program is that two of the greatest problems in our lake--water 
pollution and invasive aquatic nuisance species--have a key feature in 
common.
    (1) Water pollution due to excess nutrients and toxic substances is 
far cheaper to avoid and prevent than to clean up after the fact.
    (2) The invasion of a lake by aquatic nuisance species introduced 
from other continents is a catastrophe that is far cheaper to prevent 
than to cope with after the infestation occurs.
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy to Restore and 
Protect the Great Lakes--being considered by this committee--is a 
first-rate comprehensive management plan with many similarities to our 
Opportunities for Action plan for Lake Champlain.
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy identifies the key 
challenges for the Great Lakes, and it provides a clear road map for a 
collaborative restoration effort. In fact, whether we are talking about 
Lake Champlain or the truly' Great Lakes--our first order of business 
is to keep their condition from dramatically worsening during our 
watch.
    Today, water quality in many near-shore areas of the Great Lakes is 
in a virtual free-fall, and the Nation needs this committee to 
intervene with a program to turn aside some very troubling trends. 
Present trends are heading toward: drinking water that is a serious 
health risk for tens of millions of Americans; burgeoning numbers of 
invasive aquatic nuisance species; and ecosystem impairments that, if 
left unchecked, will take centuries and untold billions of dollars to 
remedy.
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy is an action plan 
that clearly addresses the most pressing lake stewardship needs. Senate 
bill S. 508 provides a multi-state, multi-agency collaborative 
leadership of the sort that has a proven track record in Lake 
Champlain, and mandates the kind of interagency cooperation that we 
have found essential for success.
    The Lake Champlain Basin Program, established by Congress in the 
``Lake Champlain Special Designation Act of 1990,'' and further 
authorized in the ``Daniel Patrick Moynihan Great Lakes and Lake 
Champlain Act of 2002'' has created our active Federal, State and local 
agency collaboration. S. 508 establishes a similar collaboration that 
will generate measurable in-the-water results to get this job done.
    The common interests of Lake Champlain and the Great Lakes should 
be no surprise, especially concerning invasive nuisance species 
management, because both Lake Champlain and Lake Ontario empty into the 
St. Lawrence River. Lake Champlain is drained to the north by the 
Richelieu River into the St. Lawrence, which also is the outlet river 
for Lake Ontario.
    There is also a second water connection where the southern part of 
Lake Champlain and the Great Lakes are connected by the New York Canal 
System and the Hudson River. One can travel by boat from Chicago, IL to 
Burlington, VT, using either route. These two connections are used by 
many recreational boaters.
    Unfortunately, these two waterway connections also have been used 
for decades by invading nuisance species. Zebra mussels, native to 
Europe, were introduced to the Great Lakes by the dumping of 
contaminated shipping ballast waters. Then, they invaded Lake Champlain 
by way of the Erie Canal, the Hudson River, and the Champlain Canal. 
Now zebra mussels are established throughout Lake Champlain.
    This invasion route was also used by white perch, which is rapidly 
displacing our native yellow perch. Gizzard shad, blue-back herring, 
faucet snail, globe siltsnail, purple loosestrife, yellow floating 
heart, and the infamous water chestnut, also have invaded our lake. Of 
the 48 invasive aquatic species in the Lake Champlain Basin, 13 species 
have entered Lake Champlain from the Great Lakes by way of the canals, 
and the rate of new arrivals is increasing. We applaud the recognition 
in The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy of the need to 
examine the costs and benefits of techniques to intercept the passage 
of invasive species through the Champlain Canal system.
    There are now more than 160 invasive aquatic species plaguing the 
Great Lakes watershed. We face a critical and immediate need to tighten 
our Nation's control of ballast water management by ships transiting 
the St. Lawrence River, or this problem will go from very bad to even 
worse. These ships are the primary sources and vectors of invasive 
aquatic nuisance species in the Great Lakes and this critical problem 
is clearly presented in the The Great Lakes Regional Collaboration 
Strategy.
    Over the past 15 years, and with continuing Federal funding, the 
Lake Champlain Basin Program has issued nearly 600 research, monitoring 
and plan implementation contracts. Last year we introduced a new 
Ecosystem Indicators program to characterize the pressures on our lake 
water quality, to better measure the current state of this resource, 
and to guide our adaptive management response.
    While Lake Champlain is only 120 miles long, I believe that our 15-
year management and research experience is of real and immediate value 
to the management collaborative dealing with the Great Lakes system. My 
point here is that we all achieve a better bang for the buck if we 
share the lake-management science both our systems require.
    To that end, the Lake Champlain Basin Program stands ready to share 
the lake management experiences of our smaller system in all aspects of 
plan implementation, research, ecosystem indicators, monitoring, 
education and outreach. We also acknowledge the great benefit to us 
that would accrue from increased cooperative linkages with the Great 
Lakes restoration efforts.
    We have had success in the Lake Champlain Basin in reversing the 
nutrient trends to reduce phosphorus in several major tributaries, we 
have successfully removed PCB-contaminated sediments and reclaimed 
Cumberland Bay, and we have effectively controlled water chestnut 
infestations in the southern part of Lake Champlain. We have 
established a well-coordinated program to monitor for blue-green algae 
toxins and to alert State and provincial agencies when human health 
risks occur. Whether modeling the effects of excess nutrients, the 
impact of invasive species, the persistence of toxins, or conducting 
trials of restoration strategies, the Lake Champlain Basin can be an 
ideal proving ground for Great Lakes management initiatives. This would 
allow more effective designs for the much larger Great Lakes 
watersheds.
    The challenges facing Lake Champlain and the Great Lakes are so 
similar, that a more collaborative approach to sharing the science and 
management experience that we both need is cost-effective and good 
common sense. We would welcome any opportunity to participate in an 
Advisory or Observer role envisaged by S. 508, and offer appropriate 
reciprocity.
    America today faces unprecedented challenges of ecosystem damage 
and resultant declines in water quality, contaminated and weed-infested 
waterways, and polluted lakes and estuaries across the Nation. Nowhere 
is there more at stake than in the Great Lakes, which contain 20 
percent of the fresh surface water on the planet, and 90 percent of the 
fresh surface water of the Nation.
    Our cultural habits have compromised drinking water supplies for 
millions of Americans, caused desperate struggles for survival in the 
tourism and recreation industries, and created an alarming trend toward 
more and greater problems in the near future.
    Short-funding the stewardship of our surface waters, whether in 
Lake Champlain or in the much larger Great Lakes, is surely no way to 
save money. With each passing year, water pollution and invasive 
species problems get far more costly, not less costly. The most cost-
effective solution to ensure the future of the Great Lakes is to invest 
adequately in their restoration, including the toughening of ballast 
water controls, at the earliest possible date. Any alternative is 
likely to be a false economy in the short term and result in a 
burgeoning burden of additional accrued contamination and sharply 
increased costs of restoration in the long term.
    Finally, the work of environmental restoration is not only about 
conservation philosophy or environmental ethics. As we know so well in 
the northeast, it is about the vitality of towns and cities, and the 
vigor of the recreation economy and quality of life for hundreds of 
shoreline communities large and small. It is also about our Nation's 
economic engines. It is about ample clean water for industry, and clean 
effluent from industry. It is about trucks on the highway, the pulse of 
commerce and trade. It is about smell and safety of tap water for some 
40 million people in the cities of America's heartland.
    I thank the committee for taking on this high priority challenge. I 
thank you also for the invitation to testify and I look forward to 
answering your questions.
    [Exhibits provided: Opportunities for Action--An Evolving Plan for 
the Future of the Lake Champlain Basin and (2) State of the Lake--Lake 
Champlain in 2005, A Snapshot for Citizens are retained in the 
committee's file.]

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   Statement of David J. Miller, Executive Director, Audubon New York
    My name is David J. Miller, executive director of Audubon New York, 
and I offer into the hearing record the following testimony in support 
of Great lakes programs. Audubon New York is the State program of the 
National Audubon Society, with 50,000 members, 30 local chapters and 8 
Audubon Centers and Sanctuaries across the State of New York. Audubon 
has a long history of Great Lakes conservation in both New York State 
and the entire Great lakes region. Audubon's mission is to protect 
birds, wildlife and their habitats through advocacy and education based 
on sound science. There is no more important body of freshwater than 
the magnificent Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River Ecosystem.
    The Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River system represents nearly twenty 
per cent of the World's freshwater resources. Its bio-diversity and 
abundance of wildlife makes it one of the most unique ecological 
systems in the world. For Audubon, the Great Lakes Basin hosts over a 
hundred Important Bird Areas, including the State and globally 
recognized Niagara River, as well as other critical habitats for other 
wildlife and fisheries. Its links to people are as strong as its ties 
to the natural world. It has been the backbone of the Nation's early 
transportation routes to the Mid-West and remains a vital shipping 
waterway connecting commerce from Duluth to Chicago to Detroit to 
Cleveland to Buffalo to Montreal. It provides drinking water to tens of 
millions of American and Canadian citizens and the regional economy has 
vital manufacturing, agricultural and recreational components all tied 
to the waters of the Great Lakes.
    New York State has the second longest coastline of any Great Lakes 
State hosting the shores of Lakes Erie and Ontario and rivers of 
Niagara and St. Lawrence. The Great Lake Basin encompasses close to 
fifty per cent of New York State's landmass including major population 
centers such as Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse. New York has been a 
leader in Great Lakes policy development and during the past twenty-
five years has strongly supported the Great Lakes Charter, the 
Governors Great Lakes Toxic Substance Control Agreement and the Great 
Lakes-St. Lawrence River International Water Quality Agreement. The 
State has also been a strong participant in the International Joint 
Commission, the Council of Great Lakes Governors, as well as developing 
the lake-wide Management Plans for Lakes Erie and Ontario. In 1996, New 
York's Great Lakes twenty-five year plan was launched with 25 million 
dollars of new funds allocated through its Clean Water, Clean Air Bond 
Act. Today, New York State is continuing that leadership role with its 
Government, Academic and Conservation institutions playing a vital role 
in the development and finalization of the Great lakes Regional 
Collaborative Strategy and Restoration Plan. Under President Bush's 
collaborative planning program, New York brought forth its expertise to 
critical issues facing the Great Lakes including water quality, habitat 
protection and stewardship, quantitative use of its waters, 
contaminated harbors and sediments areas as well as the introduction of 
invasive species to the region. All of these issues and more became 
components of the Great Lakes Collaborative Strategy and it became 
clear that they must be addressed if this magnificent and globally 
significant resource is going to be preserved for future generations.
    The Great Lakes Regional Collaborative Strategy sets forth a bold 
vision for the future of the Great Lakes. It establishes a $20 billion 
funding goal over the next 5-10 years in order to meet Goals and 
Milestones in eight Strategic areas. These Strategic Areas include 
Aquatic Invasive Species, Habitat and Species Management, Coastal 
Health, Areas of Concern and Contaminated Sediments, Non-Point 
Pollution programs, Release of Toxic Pollutants, Ecological Indicators 
and Sustainable Development. These eight specific issue areas are 
critical to the future of New York State's Great Lakes region, both 
ecologically and economically.
    The Bush administration's response to this bold Strategy released 
in December of 2005 has been, at best, slow in its development. The 
President's budget clearly did not set a direction on how a Federal, 
State and local partnership could be forged to finance a multi-billion 
program over the next decade. There are bi-partisan legislative 
proposals in the House and Senate, which if enacted would authorize 
between $4 and $6 billion from the federal government for this program. 
However, the President's proposed executive budget provides little to 
no new investments in Great Lakes programs and gives no indication of 
how the agencies will build their resource capacity to meet the 
challenges facing the Great Lakes.
    In New York, the response has been significantly different. The 
State of New York has a dedicated Environmental Protection Fund for 
open space, habitat, biodiversity, farmland, watershed and other 
program protection, stewardship and/or restoration projects. In 
Governor Pataki's executive budget, he proposed expanding this fund to 
$180 million annually in 2006 with two new categories that could 
specifically fund projects under the Great Lakes Collaborative 
Strategy. The two new categories are Ocean and Great Lakes Initiative 
and Water Quality Improvement Projects. In addition, the existing 
categories of open space, habitat restoration, biological diversity and 
other examples are posed to fund new projects under the Strategy. The 
legislature and environmental conservation community is now pushing to 
further expand this fund to $200 million with both Ocean and Great 
Lakes Initiative and Water Quality Improvement Categories at the $10 
million level. This budgetary investment and dedicated funding base can 
be used to match new federal dollars and help move the Great Lakes 
Collaborative Strategy with specific projects on the ground.
    New York State is blessed with abundant water resources within and 
beyond the Great Lakes Basin. These areas range from the Atlantic coast 
to Long Island Sound to the Hudson River to Lake Champlain to the Great 
Lakes Basin. With this in mind, New York's needs are enormous and the 
environmental conservation community is rallying behind a 2008 multi 
billion dollar Clean Water Bond Act proposal. These dollars in addition 
to existing programs and the growing Environmental Protection Fund will 
constitute incredible investments by the State of New York for the 
Great Lakes.
    However, it brings us back to the disappointing direction of our 
federal administration, which is cutting back on these vital programs 
instead of investing in them. The Great Lakes need a partnership of 
significant fiscal consideration at all levels of government. The 
federal government has lead with putting forth a dynamic and 
collaborative plan, but this effort is all for naught if it cannot be 
followed by real dollars and investments on a federal level. Washington 
needs to lead by example and be the catalyst region-wide to get the job 
done.
    Across the Great Lakes, coalitions are building for the restoration 
of the Lakes. We are proud members of the Heal Our Waters Coalition and 
are coordinating the legislative work of groups in that coalition in 
New York State. Audubon is pleased to report that with the efforts of 
groups such as Environmental Advocates, Great Lakes United, New York 
Rivers United and Citizen Campaign for the Environment this coalition 
is expanding and more and more people are getting involved to advocate 
the Collaborative Strategy and its implementation. In the State 
Legislature, a coalition of Great Lakes legislators are revitalizing 
themselves to address issues ranging from Great Lakes Collaborative to 
the Great Lakes Annex. We are also working closely with our 
Congressional delegation and we applaud their support and dedication to 
Great Lakes issues. Now, we must all join forces to truly make this a 
national priority, for that is what it will take to get the job done. 
With twenty per cent of the World's freshwater at stake, one wonders 
how it cannot be one.
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit my testimony into the 
record.
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       Statement of Fred V. Grau, Jr., Farmer, State College, PA
                              introduction
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit written testimony to the 
Committee. To briefly introduce myself, I am a farmer and seed grower 
whose family history in production agriculture goes back beyond written 
records if my German ancestors are to be included. I will be the last 
in this line, in large part to the ``native ecosystem'' ``Invasive 
Species'' agenda. I have been researching the ``Invasive Species'' 
agenda since February 1999--the year President Clinton, at Vice 
President Gore's behest, issued Executive Order (E.O.) No. 13112, 
``Invasive Species''.
    ``Invasive Species'' as defined in the E.O. as well as how the term 
has been employed by so-called environmental groups and Federal and 
State bureaucracies, is a bogus agenda. Simplistically, those who 
endorse ``Invasive Species'' place all organisms into two categories: 
native and nonnative. This has not one whit of scientific meaning, and 
it is grounded in a ``natives-good/nonnatives-bad'' philosophy--the new 
paradigm, in the current vernacular. In short, advocates of ``Invasive 
Species'' legislation and regulation are adamant in their view that 
species not present in a given ``ecosystem'' before European settlement 
(usually meaning 1492) are harmful, even cataclysmic to that ecosystem. 
The term ``biological pollution'' is liberally used as a synonym for 
``Invasive Species'', allowing us a glimpse of their worldview.
    My focus will be mainly on this issue, but will also include a few 
comments about other aspects of the Great Lakes Regional Collaboration 
Strategy to Restore and Protect the Great Lakes (Strategy). These 
additional comments will relate to the steady decimation of production 
agriculture, resource industries and the communities that support them 
that are due in no small part to misguided environmental policies and 
regulations. Coming from Pennsylvania, the similarities between the 
community-destroying effects of aspects of the Chesapeake Bay Program 
in my State, and the policies proposed in Strategy are as striking as 
they are alarming.
                 review of the strategy's introduction
    The case for Strategy Team Recommendations is made in the 
Introduction. We see here some disturbing inconsistencies in what is 
meant to be the underlying reasons for the Strategy's Recommendations. 
The Team uses as its example that of the introduction of the sea 
lamprey, a poster child for ``Invasive Species'' research funding, 
regulation and legislation. The lamprey is tied to both the opening of 
the St. Lawrence Seaway and the collapse of, to quote Strategy: ``the 
once ubiquitous lake trout--within a few years''. There are several 
factual problems here.
    <bullet> First, the sea lamprey has been variously reported by 
universities and government agencies to have been in the Great Lakes 
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    <bullet> The Seaway opened in April, 1959--at the minimum, 129 
years after the lamprey was introduced to the Great Lakes.
    <bullet> Massive commercial fishing led to the decline of trout 
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    <bullet> Stable trout populations previous to the 1940's were 
followed by near-collapse in the 1960's, in turn followed by record 
highs in the 1970's\4\.
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    <bullet> Sea lamprey populations are now 10 percent of what they 
were at their peak in the 1950's, due in large part to known technology 
and practical application of the lampricide TFM\5\
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    <bullet> Current native perch populations are reported by the USGS 
to be at their highest levels in more than 30 years. The Wisconsin DNR 
reports juvenile perch populations to be double that of the previous 
record year (1989). This follows the near-total ban of commercial perch 
harvests in the mid-1990's\6\.
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    No one questions the undesirability of the lamprey. What must be 
questioned are the fundamental reasons exemplified under Strategy's 
Introduction for the massive funding for further research and highly 
restrictive regulations presented in Strategy's Recommendations. It is 
clear that conditions other than the presence of the lamprey have been 
at work on trout populations for well over a century. It is equally 
clear that the technology exists for lamprey control, if only the 
funding were going toward actual control and not further research, 
Outreach and Education, etc. If this is the case for just one poster 
species, one must seriously question what faulty logic lies behind the 
massive funding for other nonnative ``invasive'' species.
    Troubling, too, is the statement that more than 160 exotic species 
now exist in the Great Lakes. The intent is to imply that this, in 
itself, is a negative ecological factor. It is not. Among the exotic, 
``invasive'' species found in the Lakes are the various salmon species, 
brown trout and rainbow trout--hardly detrimental species\7\. The 
implication that nonnative species are the primary cause of native fish 
population implosions, when the correlation with overfishing data is 
high, suggests the need for extreme caution before endorsement of the 
``Invasive Species'' aspects of the Strategy.
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    From experience in the terrestrial plant arena, the Senate should 
know that all nonnative species are targets for regulation, as 
exemplified by A.B. 2631, a California ``Invasive Species'' bill 
(mercifully vetoed by Gov. Schwarzenegger) that included even domestic 
livestock, genetically improved crops, property seizures, and criminal 
penalties. Since the signing of the E.O., Congress has wisely rejected 
dangerous ``Invasive Species'' language in such legislation as Healthy 
Forests, the Noxious Weed Act, and the recently-passed Transportation 
Bill. ``Economically harmful'' or ``harmful to human health'' are 
quantifiable, sensible terms. ``Invasive Species'' is based on a 
mythical ``nativeness'', is value-laden, and has no scientific or 
economic justification whatsoever.
                review of the strategy's recommendations
    Problem Statement. The Problem Statement under Strategy's 
Recommendations is a continuation of the justifications for ``Invasive 
Species'' actions initiated in Strategy's Introduction. Suspicion 
should arise when such alarmist phrases are used in the text, such as: 
``wave after wave'', ``irreversible invasional meltdown'' and ``cannot 
afford even one new invader''. The estimate that economic losses from 
Aquatic Invasive Species (AIS) are at $5 billion per year is certainly 
suspect, unless one considers Federal and State expenditures for 
duplicative research, overlapping bureaucracies, grants to non-
governmental organizations (NGOs) and the proliferation of manuals, 
brochures, posters, calendars and videos. This estimate is reminiscent 
of the ``Invasive Species'' white paper out of Cornell (1999) that 
claimed, through estimates of estimates of estimates, that cats cost 
the U.S. economy $14 billion and that ``Invasive Species'' overall 
costs $137 billion\8\.
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    But the most blatantly false statement from Page 17 of Strategy is 
quoted here: ``Moreover, 42 percent of threatened and endangered 
species in the U.S. are at risk, mainly because of invasive species.'' 
How is the Senate to justify Strategy program funding or, incredibly, 
legislation when the bases for the appeal are misleading and, in this 
and other cases, patently false?
    Goals & Milestones. The salient point under this section is 
Strategy's full endorsement of all aspects of S. 770, H.R. 1591 and 
H.R. 1592. These pending bills are legislative versions of this Great 
Lakes Strategy, but applied to the Nation as a whole. There will not be 
a discussion of these individual bills here, as the many arguments 
against dangerous ``Invasive Species'' legislation dealt with in this 
testimony apply to them as well. Passage of any of these bills without 
Congress's full understanding of the unintended consequences is not 
recommended.
    Recommendations. In a brief review of a document as large as the 
Strategy (70 pages), it is not possible to address every aspect. This 
includes the many points under Recommendations in Strategy itself as 
well as those presented in Appendix A. (88 pages). It should be 
understood that the items selected for discussion here do not connote 
approval of those that have been left unaddressed.
    (1) Ship and Ballast Water. Although there are problems with 
Strategy's Recommendations, these will not be addressed in the interest 
of brevity. It is hoped that industry, labor, recreational interests 
and other parties who will be directly affected will present their 
view.
    (2) Canals and Waterways. As with item 1, above, this will not be 
discussed, leaving space for the fundamentally more important issues in 
items 3, 4 and 5.
    (3) Listing, Screening and AIS Trade Prevention. Every bullet in 
this section deserves vigorous, individual rebuttal. The most alarming 
of these is the incorporation of ``whitelisting''--the legal 
implementation of the Precautionary Principle. This is the antithesis 
of the very system that has made the United States the envy of the 
world in agriculture, aquaculture, genetics, and every segment of the 
``living things'' industries, including the American consumer. In 
Strategy, individuals and commercial interests are forced to do the 
impossible: prove a negative before they are allowed to trade, either 
internationally or interstate, in living organisms. By itself, this is 
the most commerce-killing philosophy one can imagine.
    But making Strategy (and S. 770) even more absurd is that the 
absence of ``harm'' to be proved is grounded on the value-based 
(arguably, religious) concept that post-European settlement species are 
ecological damaging. Taken to its logical conclusion, the proposed 
recommendation guarantees the failure of any individual or commercial 
interest to succeed in overcoming the screening process. Most, if not 
all Federal bureaucracies and NGOs are on record as defining harm by 
nonnative/``invasive'' species as (paraphrased): ``replaces native 
species in the environment''\9\. Often, they use ``could'' or ``may'' 
to preface this phrase.
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    Although there are disclaimers in the Strategy that not all 
participating parties have necessarily agreed to all the items, and 
that no party is bound by these recommendations, it stretches credulity 
that any commercial interest could have agreed to the items under 
Strategy Recommendation 3 or S. 770. Not only would international 
commerce come to a screeching halt, interstate trade of living 
organisms (including seed) would be disrupted as never before. Even if 
one assumes good intentions and actions by the bureaucracies, 
litigation by radical environmental groups is guaranteed.
    If the Senate gleans nothing more from this testimony, it is begged 
to consider the unintended (but guaranteed) consequences of putting 
American citizens, industry and society as a whole into a U-turn from 
the policies that have brought us the highest standard of living in 
history. Codifying the Precautionary Principle is a radical departure 
from the American experience.
    (4) AIS Management Plan. Any plan, when based on flawed philosophy 
and lack of science, should be questioned. The Strategy's AIS 
Management Plan fits this description. The four most egregious of the 
nine points are: (1) voluntary agreements and codes of best practices 
for industrial trade groups, (2) economic requirements and incentives, 
(3) the revolving fund--the proposed de facto tax on (presumably) 
commercial interests and (most likely) all users of Great Lakes 
resources, including recreational activities, and (4) the de facto 
codification of the National Invasive Species Council (NISC).
    <bullet> Voluntary agreements and codes of best practices are two 
codes in themselves, albeit with another meaning. The order is usually 
reversed, as economically disinterested parties write the codes, then, 
through outcome-prescribed ``stakeholder'' processes, these parties 
present to unsuspecting and disunited industry groups what can only be 
termed an ultimatum: sign on to some form of agreement or be branded 
anti-environment. This ultimatum works well for the NGOs, who 
apparently authored much of Strategy. The St. Louis Declaration, 
unwisely signed by leaders in the nursery and landscape trade, has, in 
part, resulted in State laws highly detrimental to the trade\10\. The 
other form of ultimatum is especially effective when industry is 
presented the choice by Government regulatory agencies, such as the EPA 
or State ``DEPs.'' We have seen the effectiveness of this technique in 
Pennsylvania, as production agriculture was forced to ``voluntarily'' 
accept (sign off on) several new environmental restrictions because the 
Federal and State agencies convinced it that ``it is going to happen 
anyway''. But most importantly, conduct codes, best management 
practices, and agreements inevitably become regulation.
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    <bullet> Combining (2) and (3) from the AIS Management Plan above, 
the Strategy's bullets of ``economic requirements and incentives'' and 
``establish a revolving fund'' appear to be recommendations for funding 
for the bureaucracies and NGOs who wrote the Strategy's bullets, all at 
the expense of industry and resource users. Posting bonds, buying 
insurance or paying user fees (user fees being unstated in Strategy, 
but a common practice) will not, as stated in Strategy's 
Recommendations, ``help industry participants''. These de facto taxes 
will only help the grant recipients and their true partners, the 
expanded bureaucracies. If trade groups agree to these recommendations, 
it will be a classic case of sanction of the victim.
    <bullet> Both the NISC and the bogus issue of ``Invasive Species'' 
would be strengthened and centralized if Strategy is followed. They 
will also be forever codified into law if the recommendation for 
passage of S. 770 is successful. (Environmental NEPA litigators, take 
note.)
    <bullet> (5) Outreach and Education. This point might be the most 
insidious of them all. First, billions of taxpayer dollars have already 
been spent on ``Invasive Species'' at the Federal level alone, and for 
the most part, all there is to show for it are hundreds, if not 
thousands of slick brochures, calendars, posters, websites, hotel and 
airline bills, and, significantly, an emboldened, expanded complex of 
NGOs and bureaucracies who now call for more of the same. My files are 
overflowing with these items, including a 650-page handbook filled with 
poetic quotes, predictions of collapsed ecosystems and outright 
falsehoods. Just one of the blatant falsehoods is the statement that 
plants such as clover, perennial ryegrass and crownvetch are noxious 
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    There is no lack of funding for bogus ``invasive species'' Outreach 
and Education. It is already there in the millions of dollars from 
existing programs. Visit any facility managed by Federal, State, or 
sometimes County agencies. You will see posters. You will be given 
brochures. You can listen to lectures, live or on film. Do a Google 
search for Aquatic Invasive Species and you will get nearly 3 million 
entries. Just looking at the first 20 websites you will find dozens of 
educational resources and links to hundreds more.
    But the aspect that is the most disturbing is the indoctrination of 
K-12 students with ``Invasive Species'' nonsense at best and the fear-
mongering falsehoods at worst. Just one document by the Minnesota Sea 
Grant, Aquatic Invasive Species: An Educator's Information and 
Materials Guide\12\, lists 12 curricula, 13 posters and print 
materials, and 7 videos. An ecosystem is not in collapse due to the 
presence of ``nonnative'' species. ``Invasive Species'' are not the 
cause of species extinction, except in the rarest of circumstances 
(predators in ``island'' environments. There is no biological 
difference between a ``native'' and ``nonnative'' species. Nonnative 
species are no more likely to dominate wetland areas than are native 
species\13\. Yet, this misinformation is injected into the K-12 
curriculum--now with universal regularity.
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    Several times per semester since about the 4th Grade, I remind my 
7th Grade son that he will have to unlearn just about everything he is 
taught in school about the environment. This was brought home when his 
5th Grade class came to the two-page section in its Science textbook 
that was about ``Invasive Species'' in everything but name: native vs. 
nonnative was the theme. It was adorned by a \1/3\-page color photo of 
kudzu, a legally noxious weed that happens to be nonnative. In 
Pennsylvania, wild grape, Virginia creeper, and poison ivy fill the 
ecological niches that kudzu occupies in the Old South. But they are 
noticeably absent from any ``Invasive Species'' list or discussion--
Federal, State or local. Why? Simply because they were here when 
William Penn received his charter from King Charles II in 1681.
                    conclusion--``invasive species''
    Concluding my comments on the ``Invasive Species'' section of the 
Strategy, there is no doubt that some species cause economic harm or 
harm to human health. There is equally no doubt that economic and human 
harms come from species that were both present in North America in 1492 
and those that were not. Efforts to control or even eradicate species 
that meet these criteria are understandable. If the economic/human 
harms outweigh the benefits, and those harms are severe enough, it is 
logical to expend resources for control, prevention and even 
eradication.
    However, since the issuance of President Clinton's E.O. in 1999, 
``Invasive Species'' has evolved into an all-pervasive, illogical, and 
dangerous agenda that has all the hallmarks of previous contentious 
legislation, such as The Endangered Species Act (ESA). It is both 
ironic and alarming that while Congress wrestles with reforms of the 
ESA (H.R. 3824, TESRA), it is at the same time considering implementing 
the ``Invasive Species'' sections in the Great Lakes Strategy and the 
passage of such ``Invasive Species'' legislation as S. 770, H.R. 1591 
and H.R. 1592.
                      comments on remaining items
    There are serious concerns about the seven Strategy Team 
Recommendations that follow the first (``Invasive Species''). As a 
farmer who is witnessing (note present tense) the destructive effects 
of the Chesapeake Bay Program (CBP) on rural Pennsylvania, it is 
fervently hoped that production agriculture, foresters, and other 
resource interests in the Great Lakes region will carefully read 
Strategy, investigate how the CBP is steadily eroding Pennsylvania's 
rural economic base, and then comment themselves on Strategy, S. 770 
and other Recommendations. Space does not allow ample development here.
    Allowing for just one of many Chesapeake Bay watershed examples 
(mimicked in Strategy), the one-two punch of the Conservation Reserve 
Program (CRP) and the Conservation Reserve Enhancement Program (CREP) 
is having a devastating effect on farmers who actually farm for a 
living. By taking entire farms out of production (CRP) and with 
government CREP set-aside payments at four to five times the local land 
rental rate, financially-strapped retired (or retiring) farmers take 
land out of production, leaving the active, productive farmers in a 
dire situation--prohibitively expensive land to rent or even no land at 
all. The exodus of Pennsylvania dairy cows to ag-friendly States such 
as Indiana, New Mexico and Texas is at least partially due to CRP, CREP 
and other ill-advised State, Federal and Regional programs.
    One of the baffling inconsistencies of these programs (and 
Strategy's various Recommendations) can be exemplified by the case of 
crownvetch and tall fescue in the Chesapeake Bay watershed. They have 
been indispensable in protecting the Bay watershed for over a half-
century--and at little or no maintenance cost. Penngift crownvetch is 
even the Official State Conservation Plan of Pennsylvania. Empirical 
data from Penn State University shows water, soil and pesticide loss to 
be near-zero in corn planted to a crownvetch cover crop under the same 
conditions (17 inches of rainfall) that resulted in soil loss of 14 
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    Yet within months of the Executive order, both crownvetch and tall 
fescue became poster species of most bureaucracies and the NGOs as 
``Invasive Species'', in the process putting enormous pressure on 
PennDOT and other highway departments to discontinue their use. 
Inferior, weed-prone (but expensive) species were recommended, even 
demanded in the case of the FHWA. The Nature Conservancy (TNC), the $4 
billion lead NGO on ``Invasive Species'', even proudly proclaims in a 
March 2006 bulletin that its influence on State agencies was great 
enough to stop the Indiana Department of Transportation from using 
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    Now, do the people of Indiana, Michigan or any of the Great Lake 
States want the cleanest water and air that technology and science can 
produce? Or do they want their State and Federal agencies, in concert 
with unelected NGOs, to pursue an agenda based on a mythical 
``nativeness'', excluding in the process the most effective means for 
clean water and air? Strategy leaves one wondering what the most 
important goals are. With ``Invasive Species'' being the first of the 
eight Strategy subjects addressed, concern is warranted.
    This will conclude with two quotes, in case this testimony is 
viewed as isolated and/or anti-environment:
    From noted Biologist and author Stephen Jay Gould, regarding the 
scientific bogusness of ``Invasive Species'': ``How easy the fallacious 
transition between a biological argument and political campaign.''
    From a current USDA researcher (name withheld), in response to a 
particularly vehement ``Invasive Species'' lecture given by an FHWA 
official: ``Ma'am, has anyone considered any common sense on this 
issue?''
    Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the Great Lakes 
Strategy.
  

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