Return-Path: <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h23HZPP22133; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:35:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:35:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <004101c2e1aa$aff11ee0$c5fd5018@vc.shawcable.net> Errors-To: alcrsb@langate.gsu.edu Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Suzanne Smythe <smythemu@interchange.ubc.ca> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2517] RE: name of center X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 5748 Lines: 149 Daphne wrote: Yes-that is my fear. If we adopt the name lifelong-adult will eventually be forgotten. What do others think? I agree with you-the term 'lifelong' is in some ways a catch all term that can refer to everything and therefore nothing in particular. The term lifelong learning, as I understand, is becoming increasingly popular as a replacement term for adult education departments, (e.g. many are becoming centres for lifelong learning, etc). This is often linked to a shift from community-based, facilitative approaches to adult education to a human resource development focus; linking adult education to economic productivity. Including child learning in the seemingly inclusive term of lifelong learning makes sense according to this thinking, because of some research which also regards child's learning as ultimately an issue of economic productivity. I wonder if the term "lifelong literacy" would have the same effect-implying a shift in philosophy that really does matter if we believe (and I am one of those who do) that language/terminologies shape our understanding and practice in the world. So, what about the Centre for the Study of Adult and Community Literacies or something like that, which implies a scope broader than just adult/child, but certainly inclusive of these? Good luck with this! Suzanne Smythe Vancouver, BC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daphne Greenberg" <alcdgg@langate.gsu.edu> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:21 AM Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2515] RE: name of center > Yes-that is my fear. If we adopt the name lifelong-adult will eventually be forgotten. What do others think? > Daphne > > >>> cepearce@stepcorp.org 03/03/03 11:13 AM >>> > Hi Daphne, > > I don't want to monopolize this discussion, but I would like to respond to > your answers to my questions. First of all, my credentials and professional > experience are primarily seated in adult education. Many adult educators, > including myself, are reluctant to give up the 'adult' in any program name. > While there are pros and cons to adopting either title that you have > indicated in previous messages - particularly the one that includes > "lifelong literacy, I would suggest that you consider both adult and youth > descriptors. I support this suggestion as I have worked in both adult > education and youth professional environments. While many may understand > the tenets of using the term "lifelong literacy," I would venture a guess > that there are equally as many that would not be clear about using this > term. > > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: nifl-womenlit@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-womenlit@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of > Daphne Greenberg > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:36 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2509] RE: name of center > > > Good questions! Here are my answers: > Rationale: The Dean wants the Center to include children's literacy issues. > His plan is to expand the center's role to include other > offices/programs/etc. in the College that include children's issues. > Reluctance: Not only am I reluctant, but I am scared that by giving up the > word adult in the title, we will begin to follow the trend that children's > literacy issues are more important than adult issues. > Staff involvement: Yes, everyone is aware of what is going on. Basically I > have been struggling with the Dean for awhile now and part of the negotiated > struggle is the name Center for the Study of Lifelong Literacy. He is not > thrilled with my suggestion of Center for the Study of Adult and Child > Literacy and I was curious whether people think that it is worth the > struggle-should I try to get the name to be Center for the Study of Adult > and Child Literacy, or is Center for the Study of Lifelong Literacy good > enough. In other words what are the various implications of the different > names (lifelong vs. Adult and Child)? > Daphne > >>> cepearce@stepcorp.org 03/03/03 10:19 AM >>> > Hi Daphne, > > I have some questions before I can provide you with some feedback. First of > all, what is the rationale of the dean's request? Does your center study > both adults and children? Also, do you have some reluctance in giving up > the 'adult' in the center title? I have learned that many adult educators > have similar challenges. And, finally, have you posed this situation to the > staff and perhaps some of the individuals who utillize your reserach and > jprograms. > > I look forward to your response. > > Have a great day.. Carole > > Carole E. Pearce, D.Ed. > Youth Services Manager > State College CareerLink > > -----Original Message----- > From: nifl-womenlit@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-womenlit@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of > Daphne Greenberg > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:48 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2504] name of center > > > I would like to invite some feedback over an issue that I am thinking about. > Currently, my center is called the Center for the Study of Adult Literacy. > The Dean wants the name to be changed to the Center for the Study of > Lifelong Literacy. I am worried about losing the word Adult in the title and > would like to propose the name: Center for the Study of Adult and Child > Literacy. > So, which name do you think is better: > Center for the Study of Lifelong Literacy > or > Center for the Study of Adult and Child Literacy > Do you think it matters? Why? > Thanks! > > Daphne Greenberg > Associate Director > Center for the Study of Adult Literacy > MSC 6A0360 > Georgia State University > 33 Gilmer Street SE Unit 6 > Atlanta, GA 30303-3086 > phone: 404-651-0127 > fax:404-651-4901 > dgreenberg@gsu.edu > >
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