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Summary Meeting Notes
May 16 - 17, 2001

Camino Real Hotel
El Paso, Texas

Members of the NDWAC Council:

Dr. David P. Spath, Chairperson
Ms. Mary Pesina Baiza
Mr. Henry M. Duque
Dr. Jeffrey K. Griffiths
Dr. L.D. McMullen,
Mr. Kenneth J. Merry
Ms. Diana Neidle
Dr. Graciela I. Ramirez-Toro
Ms. Vicki Ray
Ms. Cynthia J. Roper
Mr. John P. Scheltens
Mr. Dennis Schwartz
Mr. Peter D. Thornton
Dr. Thomas Yohe
Ms. Brenda Johnson, Administrative Specialist
Ms. Janet Pawlukiewicz, Designated Federal Officer

NDWAC Members Absent:

Dr. Richard Bull, Science Advisory Board Liaison
Mr. Bradford McLane

EPA Staff:

Ms. Cynthia Dougherty, Office of Ground Water and Drinking Water
Mr. Jim Brown, Chief, EPA Region 6, Drinking Water Section
Mr. Bill Diamond, Office of Ground Water and Drinking Water
Mr. Ephraim King, Office of Ground Water and Drinking Water
Ms. Jeannette Wiltse, EPA Office of Science and Technology
Mr. Joshua Joseph, Office of Ground Water and Drinking Water
Dr. Fred Hauchman, Office of Research and Development
Mr. Jeffery Kempic, Office of Ground Water and Drinking Water

Others Attending All or Part of the Meeting:

Mr. Bill Guerra Addington, West Texas Water Protection Fund and the Sierra Blanca Legal Defense Fund
Mr. Sparky Anderson, Texas Clean Water Action
Mr. Lorenzo Arriaga, U.S. DOI, Bureau of Reclamation
Mr. David Brosman, El Paso Water Utilities
Ms. Christina Brown, News Channel 9, El Paso, Texas
Mr. John Burkstaller, El Paso Water Utilities, Western Coalition of Arid States
Mr. Tom Curtis, AWWA
Mr. Uzi Daniel, California-American Water Works Service Co.
Mr. Frank Desales, Sparks Housing Development Corp.
Mr. Rob Johnson, National Rural Water Association
Mr. Mike Landis, U.S. DOI, Bureau of Reclamation
Mr. John Montgomery, National Rural Water Association
Ms. Eva Nieminski, Utah State Department of Environmental Quality and AWWA
Ms. Nancy Pontius, Pontius Water Consultants
Mr. Ruben Reyes, El Paso Green Party
Ms. Elissa Rivas, Fox News, El Paso, Texas
Ms. Chris Roberts, Associated Press, El Paso, Texas
Mr. Craig Runyan, New Mexico Cooperative Extension Service
Mr. Mark Scharfenaker, AWWA
Mr. Daniel Solig, Colonia CBO
Ms. Diane Van De Hef, AWWA
Mr. Luke Wendel, Parsons Engineering Science

WEDNESDAY, MAY 16, 2001

I. Opening Remarks - Dr. David Spath/ Ms. Cynthia Dougherty

  • The Chair of the National Drinking Water Advisory Council (NDWAC) welcomed the participants, and made introductions. Dr. Spath recognized former Chairperson, Dr. L.D. McMullen, for the years he dedicated to the Council.
  • Ms. Cynthia Dougherty also thanked Dr. McMullen, those who have participated in the past on the main Council, and those who have worked on the subgroups. Ms. Dougherty also welcomed Dr. Spath as the new Chairperson, as well as the new Council members.

II. Addressing Microbial Contamination: Emergency Preparedness, Response, and Prevention - Mr. Jim Brown/Mr. Ephraim King

Lessons from the Field-Mr. Jim Brown

  • EPA Region 6 is comprised of the states of Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and New Mexico. The Region also oversees tribal public water systems. Region 6 has approximately 70 tribally-owned public water systems, most associated with the pueblos in New Mexico.
  • An outbreak of Cryptosporidium occurred in Brushy Creek, Texas, following the failure of a pumping station from a lightning strike. Approximately 167,000 gallons of raw sewage was discharged into Brushy Creek. Five municipal district drinking water wells were located about two miles downstream from the spill, each between 120 and 200 feet deep. Unfortunately, the wells did not meet the criteria used by the state to determine if they were under the direct influence of surface water. Samples of the treated water from the distribution system tested negative for total and fecal coliforms, however, some private wells in the area did test positive for these indicators. The TNRCC was notified of the positive results, and as a result, instructed the Municipal Utility District to sample the raw water in the wells. Four of five wells tested positive for fecal coliforms on this occasion. The TNRCC ordered the wells shut down, issued a boiled water order, and began to purchase water from a nearby community.
  • Residents of Brushy Creek began complaining of gastrointestinal-related problems such as nausea, diarrhea, and abdominal cramps. Further water testing revealed Cryptosporidium parvum oocysts. The Department of Health surveyed residents and identified a 24% infection rate. There were 89 confirmed cases of Cryptosproidiosis. In the ensuing three months, an additional 45 cases were confirmed.
  • What was learned? Several multiple failures occurred in several multiple barrier systems including:
    • the storm;
    • the power outage;
    • the sewage spill;
    • the lack of ground water under the influence of surface water (GUDI); determinations at the affected wells; and
    • severe drought conditions in Texas with a very high demand on the water table causing a depressed water table (with the postulation that the affected creek was therefore a losing rather than gaining stream).
  • Many other disease outbreaks are the result of multiple system failures, as well. Response plans and an accessible network for communication must be established before a disaster occurs. Establish a rapport with the Superfund people who are able to respond quickly.
  • 25 private wells were affected by the Brushy Creek sewage spill. The EPA enforcement division had to work with the City of Austin to provide bottled water to these residents until the sewage was flushed out of the aquifer system.
  • Develop a working relationship with EPA press contacts and anticipate requests from the press following an incident. Have fact sheets at the ready. Be truthful and sincere, and show technical expertise.
  • Consider the Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) initiatives like the Source Water Assessment Program, sanitary surveys, and comprehensive performance evaluations that could prevent problems. Follow through with monitoring and reporting, operator certification, and capacity development.

Response to Questions:

  • Mr. Brown was unaware of the number of utilities that actually consider multiple system failures during emergency planning; however, multiple system failures have occurred on other occasions, as well (e.g., Georgetown, Texas; Milwaukee, Wisconsin). There was evidence that a number of sewage pumping stations around the City of Austin (in addition to Brushy Creek) did not have backup generators in case of power failure.
  • Microparticulate testing following the Brushy Creek incident revealed three wells under the direct influence of surface water. This incident provided evidence that a Cryptosporidium outbreak can occur in karst groundwater systems. In this instance, the GUDI criteria was extended to include all wells that are even 250 feet deep under microparticulate analysis criteria for the Upper Edwards Aquifer.
  • Pathogens or contamination can move, in some cases, miles in a given day in karst systems. Pipe flow in karst settings deserves closer attention in Source Water Assessment Programs.
  • In addition, karst systems are very complex, with fracturing, faulting, and possibly intersecting fissures with multiple directions and flow.
  • Dr. Jeffrey Griffiths wondered if all wells in karst shouldn't be looked at under GUDI criteria. Mr. Brown responded that this is strongly encouraged in Region 6. Approximately 40% of the lithology in the U.S. is underlined by karst. In addition, any type of fractured rock as a result of tectonic activity can also have fissures that can short-circuit the system.
  • In response to a question, Mr. Brown noted that the regulatory agency (state) was criticized for the lag in response time it took to order sampling of the raw water for parasites.
  • Mr. Brown explained that it would be a good idea for the EPA Drinking Water response personnel to make arrangement with the Superfund 24-hr. staff to coordinate emergency response situations.
  • In ground water utility vulnerability assessments, adequacy of the alarm system for the identification of sewage bypasses in the event of a power failure should be included. In addition, the lack of ground water system barriers to these types of threats, in comparison to surface water utilities, should be considered in vulnerability assessments.
  • On the heels of this incident, the utility was successful in getting the city to approve a $2 million upgrade to their alarm system; this is a good time to address any funding needs with local officials.
  • Emergency preparedness manuals can be prepared ahead of time to address anticipated situations; a generic emergency response plan is recommended for unanticipated situations, including phone numbers, etc. California is updating their generic response plans now to deal with the rolling blackouts the state is experiencing.
  • Mr. Thornton explained that in his jurisdiction, emergency situations are reported (with written summary) to one state emergency management office within 24 hours for a centralized coordination of response. This type of coordinated emergency response by one office (to be the recipient of all information as it related to the emergency) within jurisdictions is recommended.
  • Mr. Duque recommended that emergency response cards (personnel and contact numbers) have a date on them reflecting when they were last updated.
  • Mr. Scheltens commented that the entire source water collection area for the wells in fractured rock aquifers be tested, not just the wells themselves. A consideration of the detention time of the aquifer is vital.
  • Dr. Spath noted that California is building the issue of bioterrorism into their emergency response plans.

EPA Microbial Contamination Prevention Strategy - Mr. Ephraim King

  • Mr. King spoke of the development of EPA's Microbial Contamination Prevention Strategy. This strategy will coordinate between different programs, address different kinds of sources of microbial contamination, and identify different tools that might be available for addressing those sources of contamination. He reminded the group that although his talk will be geared towards drinking water, there are other sources of exposure to microbial contamination for beachgoers and shellfish harvesters, etc.
  • Mr. King stated that most of the credit for the strategy needs to go to Jeannette Wiltse and Betsy Southerland of the Office of Science and Technology, and to Bill Diamond.
  • The 1990 Science Advisory Board (SAB) made a recommendation and conclusion that microbial contamination is probably the largest remaining health risk. This statement is probably as true today as it was a decade ago.
  • The public water systems play a vital role in protecting public health and the public and regulatory officials need to be reminded of this role in terms of addressing microbial contamination.
  • Mr. King reviewed the sources of microbial risk:
    • surface water;
    • ground water;
    • point sources;
    • nonpoint sources;
    • watershed discharges; and
    • stormwater discharges.

    He indicated that collaboration and partnership with the community of persons involved in source water protection is necessary to reduce microbial contamination from sources.

  • The assumption that ground water sources are fairly well protected from microbial contamination needs to be re-thought and addressed on a case-by-case basis.
  • Tests indicate the presence of viruses and bacteria in ground water.
  • The drinking water community and Public Water Systems (PWS) have a huge stake in what happens to source waters. Certain estimates indicate that anywhere from 10 to 30% of septic systems fail at any given time. Where there are a lot of septic systems and there is ground water as a source water, there is another microbial contamination connection for consideration.
  • There are roughly 264 million customers of drinking water systems across this country. It is significant that the 14,000 surface water systems and 154,000 ground water systems have tremendous leverage, influence, and information when it comes to understanding both what's happening in the source waters they draw on and in taking proactive steps in a community to address those contamination sources.
  • Disinfection has been very effective in public health protection for the past 100 years. Having said that, there is concern regarding disinfection by-products and other ill health endpoints. Many disinfection practices are also not particularly effective against Cryptosporidium. Those practices that are effective have other drawbacks. It is a constant effort to stay on the cutting edge of protection against microbial contaminants.
  • Microfiltration is an excellent technology, but viruses do indeed get through. This technology should not be relied on to the exclusion of other things.
  • The CDC has reported approximately 200 million cases of GI illness (microbial contamination) per year in this country. Approximately 30% of this is estimated to be due to foodborne pathways. The sources of exposure for the remaining 70% are unknown. Microbial contamination is a potentially significant occurrence and concern.
  • The issue of use of antibiotics in treatment of people and livestock needs to be strongly considered. The evolution of antibiotic-resistant microbes is of issue as animal production and husbandry is expected to increase. This issue is an example of the challenges faced in addressing microbial pathogens.
  • There are tremendous opportunities under even just the Clean Water Act (CWA) and the Safe Drinking Water Act to address microbial pathogens taking advantage of both voluntary programs and regulatory mechanisms. This Protection Strategy is about joining the different activities of these acts, and the Beaches Act, to come up with a more uniform, comprehensive strategy for dealing with microbial contamination.
  • The Clean Water Act emphasized point and nonpoint source programs. EPA has the responsibility for setting water quality criteria. However, there is not today an EPA water quality microbial criteria for drinking water uses. The CWA may provide a means to develop a drinking water criteria for water designated for drinking water uses. States may adopt this criteria and it then becomes a tool for PWSs to address contaminant control.
  • EPA sets MCLG health standards and treatment techniques. Under the Surface Water Treatment Rule, EPA can go up into a watershed and require monitoring, analysis, and assessment of contaminant sources.
  • The SDWA also has a heavy emphasis on source control through the Underground Injection Control (UIC) program, the Source Water Assessment (SWA) program, and through the Wellhead Protection (WHP) program. Putting the CWA and SDWA programs together may establish an effective strategy for dealing with microbial contaminants.
  • The overall goal for the microbial protection strategy is protecting human health from harmful levels of pathogens in ground and surface waters. The strategy is to integrate public health protection under both the CWA and the SDWA. EPA would also utilize the Beach Act and dumping bans to reduce exposure to pathogens.
  • EPA is focusing on the following issues in connection with the strategy:
    • sorting out cross program opportunities;
    • determining the highest microbial priority;
    • identifying what tools should be used in dealing with microbial protection;
    • supporting development of a drinking water quality criteria;
    • focusing on a strategy to reduce contamination from septic systems;
    • using voluntary activities effectively; and
    • developing research programs and additional tools (e.g., a microbial risk assessment paradigm).

    Response to Questions:

  • Suggestions were made to clarify the goal of the strategy and highlight the eight or more major sub-strategies in the document, identify each, the rationale supporting it, and appropriate action steps;
  • A member stressed that the septic tank issue was critical and that there is a lot that can be done in the short term to start working on maintenance programs with homeowners. Another member agreed that this was an important issue as viruses have been shown to travel very long distances, both horizontally and vertically, from the tanks.
  • The issue of virus travel is especially pertinent in the State of Florida where upwards of 300 wells are being considered for disposal of wastewater for ground water replenishment, for example, in the Everglades. The level of treatment required prior to discharge is being hotly contested, as well as other issues unrelated to pathogens.
  • A member noted that it is the customers of the public water systems that end up paying for failure to prevent contamination.
  • A member reflected that the problem of high-flow runoff must be addressed, especially as they relate to waterborne outbreaks. Abnormal conditions must be considered, not just normal flow conditions.
  • In addition, the member was concerned that a link with the Department of Agriculture be developed to address nonpoint source pollution from animal husbandry farms.
  • A member questioned what non-regulatory agencies that manage the environment or work in the watersheds would be involved in the strategy. The Department of Education should be included; as well as different levels within the Departments.
  • A member noted his support for the National Academy of Science's report on the selection of the processes for the contaminant list. One of the things the NAS was asked to look at by the EPA was microbial risks and how to detect and assess them. This report has been released and is available on-line.
  • A number of members noted that they were very encouraged by the strategy. EPA drinking water personnel were in support of the strategy because it could be a useful tool in implementation of the Source Water Assessment Program, particularly with regard to microbial risks at the local level.

III. Council Discussion

  • The members were asked to give any specific comments to Mr. King in lieu of making any specific recommendations at this time. If there is any theme to the comments, then maybe the Council could turn them into specific recommendations. The EPA was asked to come back at the next Council meeting with the updated strategy.

IV. Research Working Group Update - Dr. Fred Hauchman

  • The first meeting of the working group established under NDWAC for drinking water research was held in November, 2000.
  • The drinking water research strategy is required by the 1996 Amendments to the SDWA. The strategy will take a comprehensive look at current and future research needs; involve stakeholders; and make sure that research is not redundant, not only within EPA, but by organizations outside EPA as well. The state-of-the-science and research needs will be evaluated for individual contaminants of concern as well as for the following set of cross-cutting/emerging issues:
    • sensitive subpopulations;
    • distribution systems;
    • source water assessments;
    • contaminant mixtures; and
    • future scenarios.
  • A complete set of background documents will be developed for each of the contaminants and topics covered in the strategy. Some products will be available for the NDWAC working group meeting in June, 2001.
  • Part of the document will include prioritization of the research across topic areas as well as within topic areas by looking at the state of the science, ongoing research, analysis, data gaps, and application of criteria for prioritization.
  • Good progress has been made on development of an internet-based information management system that will help track current research being conducted by EPA and outside research organizations. All of the current EPA drinking water research projects have been entered into the database and are now undergoing QA/QC review. It is anticipated that information in the database will be updated on an annual or semiannual basis.
  • The working group is comprised of 24 representatives with a broad range of expertise and from different parts of the country. The next working group meeting is scheduled for June 21 and 22 at the end of the AWWA annual conference. Six subgroups have been formed within the working group and will be meeting via conference calls in May/June and in person at the June working group meeting.
  • The timeline also includes working with a contractor to develop the background documents and pieces of the main document. The strategy is expected to be completed toward the end of the next year.
  • Another development has been the concept of a global research coalition, which is in the process of being established by the American Water Works Association Research Foundation. EPA hopes to be able to coordinate with this group in the future.

    Comments/Responses to Questions:

  • A member commented that it would be good to add something in the outline of the strategy to deal with integration with other research efforts.
  • EPA plans peer review of the strategy by the Science Advisory Board .
  • A member commented that this is really an opportunity for NDWAC and other representatives of the drinking water community to have input into how EPA sets its research priorities. EPA is using NDWAC to make this a continuous vehicle over time. This is a model for other comprehensive strategies within EPA, as well.
  • A member encouraged the establishment of a standing committee report once a year to accommodate updates in the strategic vision.
  • A member brought up budget concerns and EPA promised to get the 2002 budget request to the Congress out to Council members. Dr. Mc Mullen noted that coordination is even more important when the limited number of dollars is considered.

V. Arsenic Costs Review Subcommittee: Review of Issues and Plan for Subcommittee - Dr. David Spath/ Mr. Jeffrey Kempic

  • On March 20, 2001, EPA Administrator Whitman announced that the Agency would undertake a review of the science and cost issues associated with the recently promulgated arsenic rule. NDWAC has been asked to undertake the review of EPA cost analyses, utilizing a subgroup approach.
  • NDWAC has started to establish a working group and through outreach efforts has a sizeable list of names of experts in the field. The intent is to have a draft report to the Council by mid-August. The first work group meeting will be May 29 and 30, 2001.
  • EPA has proposed to extend the effective date of the rule to February 22, 2002. EPA is evaluating 14,000 comments on the proposal. The National Academy of Sciences National Research Council is evaluating the health effects science used to develop the final rule signed in January as well as new science that has come out since the NAS report.
  • Parallel to these efforts, EPA will shortly be putting out a proposal to the public asking them to comment on a range of MCL levels for arsenic including 3, 5, 10, and 20 ppb. EPA plans to put out a notice in the fall regarding future plans and to have a final action completed by next February.
  • A conference call meeting for the Council will be scheduled for the end of August to review the recommendations from the subgroup and make recommendations to the Agency.
  • Mr. Jeffrey Kempic identified and discussed some of the key areas that the working group will cover:
    • EPA cost estimates;
    • review of AWWARF approach to cost estimates;
    • changes made in response to comments on the proposed rule;
    • EPA's occurrence projections;
    • Best Available Technologies;
    • other technologies, e.g., coagulated-assisted microfiltration;
    • Small System Compliance Technologies;
    • point-of-use options;
    • Final Rule National Cost Estimate;
  • Some of the key areas from the EPA > National Cost Estimate for review include baseline information and assumptions, the treatment trains used to develop the national costs, treatment technology unit costs, the decision tree, and the National Cost Estimate approach using the SafeWater XL model.
  • A few documentation needs (e.g., from AWWARF authors) remain. Key areas for review in the AWWARF cost estimates will focus primarily on the residual influenced and compliance forecast, which is typically the one used as the best estimate.

    Response to Questions:

  • Some of the co-occurring contaminants with arsenic (e.g., sulfate, silica) were estimated based upon data obtained from the USGS national database providing characteristics of groundwater.
  • Regarding treatment for arsenic +3 and arsenic +5 (chemical valence states of arsenic) by small systems, in the decision tree EPA assumed that there would be a pre-oxidation step (disinfection) to oxidize arsenic +3 to arsenic +5, so that it could then be removed by available technology. Disinfection was therefore added as a cost.
  • Multiple sources of activated alumina are available in the country now.
  • Based upon the assumption in the EPA and AWWARF analyses arsenic residuals can be disposed of in a nonhazardous waste landfill.
  • The review of the cost issue has been directed to the NDWAC because questions have been raised both about the overall way that EPA estimated the costs and whether EPA have underestimated costs, particularly on small systems.
  • Several comments were made that a subgroup was needed to evaluate the value of health benefits. The NDWAC subgroup is only going to look at the costs of compliance; not at the value of the health benefits. The set of experts tapped is specialized in cost analyses. The work of the NDWAC on costs and the NAS on the underlying science will all be available to the public for review and comment. The NAS work group findings will inform the risk assessment and provide a basis for the health benefits valuation.
  • A member brought up the issue of the consequences of a community feeling that they may have an arsenic standard set at a level too high by the EPA and taking it upon themselves to install point-of-use devices, with a subsequent transfer of costs to the individual.
  • Every PWS is required to monitor for arsenic today and is also required to notify consumers in the annual Consumer Confidence Reports if arsenic is detected at any level. The change in the rule put out in January is the trigger level at which a system would be required to provide additional educational information about arsenic to the public.
  • A member also noted that there may be unquantified benefits to putting in additional treatment technologies. States prefer to see contaminants addressed as a whole, instead of requiring treatment contaminant-by-contaminant.
  • Savings in medical costs and future public health benefits associated with a higher standard were discussed.
  • Economic justice as it reflects on poor communities with inferior water systems, as well as preservation of property values in places with increased arsenic, were discussed.
  • The power costs associated with the treatment process are available and were included in the cost estimate. A certain level of training of operators was also included in costs.
  • EPA has been in touch with the AWWARF, and there is a willingness to collaborate to determine where the differences in the two approaches are, and provide this information to the NDWAC subgroup.
  • Dr. Mc Mullen described the SAB's deliberation on the original proposed 5 Fg/L arsenic drinking water regulation. SAB deliberated on the following five questions:
    • Was the focus on the inorganic arsenic the correct approach?
    • What are the implications of the dietary input of arsenic as it relates to drinking water?
    • Was it desirable to put out a health advisory on arsenic in water for people that are susceptible to it; maybe for infant formula?
    • Was the decision tree for waste disposal options for arsenic brines and spent media adequate? and
    • Was the decision tree for ground water treatment technologies appropriate?
  • EPA clarified that the SAB looked at EPA's proposal and not the Final Rule. In the Final Rule Preamble, a number of these issues were addressed.

VI. Council Discussion

Note: It was moved and seconded that the NDWAC look at the benefits of the Rule.

  • Discussion ranged from a concern that this issue was already being taken care of by the work of the NAS to the need for a working group that may be able to come up with a way to address the issues identified as unquantifiable by EPA. The Agency clarified that it will take the input from the NAS to review risk assessment models. The motion was voted upon and defeated. Anyone on the NDWAC interested in participating on the subgroup on costs was invited to provide their name to Dr. Spath.

Note: It was moved and seconded that it be recommended that the Agency look at the products of the former NDWAC Health Benefits work group and make sure that the health benefits analysis used in determining the new arsenic standard were consistent with the work group recommendations. One member suggested that the review be conducted by a public body other than the one developing the product. Another member reminded the group that oversight activities were outside the scope of this advisory Council. The recommendation was passed.

VII. Clean Water Act/Safe Drinking Water Act: Building Linkages to Support Source Water Protection - Mr. Bill Diamond

  • The need to identify areas at cross-purposes under the acts was discussed. Some of these areas include:
    • potentially duplicative requirements;
    • doing assessments at the same time as TMDL allocations;
    • inconsistent charges in statutes;
    • general inadequate program coordination on a management level;
    • untimely data;
    • setting of priorities;
    • allocation of responsibilities; and
    • feedback mechanisms.
  • Some strategies to achieve this coordination include:
    • looking at the overall goal of an action;
    • communicating sensibly within the Agency and with other agencies;
    • coordinating outreach activities;
    • overcoming the isolation of programs in the field;
    • dealing with the public, the watershed, and the environment as a whole program;
    • identifying some interdependent solutions;
    • structuring budgets;
    • identifying potential barriers;
    • eliminating duplication;
    • reducing costs;
    • improving data availability;
    • developing consistent measures of program success;
    • using the same science;
    • sharing problem identifications;
    • consolidating reporting requirements;
    • improving and speeding up risk management decisions; and
    • documenting decisions and communicating them to the public.
  • The changing nature of the problems and programs dictates that the timing is critical now for these coordinating efforts. In addition, current information integration initiatives allows for more efficient, timely, effective relay and communication of information.
  • Some measures to take to begin this process include:
    • start with analyzing the key requirements and processes of the "backbone" water programs;
    • identify and discuss linkages; and
    • make decisions and choices concerning improved coordination and collaboration.
  • The program improvement integration team, internally, is a division director level team inside the EPA Office of Water.
  • The goal is to make recommendations early next year and begin implementation immediately.
  • Key issues being faced include:
    • What's the scope going to be?
    • Is it going to be a major initiative?
    • Are we really trying to devote some senior management time and effort on it?
    • Is it timely?
    • Are there benefits that the Office of Water will really invest time on?
    • Is this important from a state perspective? And
    • Which areas should have priority?

VIII. Council Discussion

  • A member questioned where EPA was going with the nonpoint source issue under the CWA, especially in reference to the lawsuits being conducted? One activity being considered is better use of grants under the CWA to make sure that education of the public regarding non-point sources and voluntary pollution reduction/protection activities are undertaken.
  • The scope of public involvement in the CWA/SDWA coordination process is still undecided.
  • A member reminded the group of the need to emphasize the protection of the public health, especially within an environmental protection agency.
  • A member questioned if the Agency knows how much of the State Revolving Fund (SRF) money that was available for doing protection has actually been used in that way, and what, if anything, the Agency has been doing to proactively encourage that to happen. EPA expects all the money set aside under the DWSRF will be used as source water protection initiatives follow the assessments. Funding for nonpoint source activities increased under the CWA SRF.

IX. Public Participation

  • Mr. John Burkstaller, El Paso Water Utilities made the following points:
    • They would like to be involved in the cost estimate comparison process along with AWWARF;
    • Some utilities have already done their own cost estimates and would like some possibility to include those estimates;
    • The BAT list is more or less impractical for use in the arid west for various reasons. They would like some attention given to the physical availability of technologies on the BAT list and the difficulty in implementing the technologies that have been recommended; and
    • Since the arid west has a lot of the treatment costs both in small and large communities, objective representatives for the panel should come from that area of the country.
  • Mr. David Brosman, El Paso Water Utilities made the following points:
    • They have a disagreement with EPA's cost estimates;
    • When looking at distribution system changes involved with 152 well sites, the cost is huge and is not being accounted for by EPA;
    • Equitable arrangement is needed for conjuctive use of water between surface and ground waters; and
    • Existence of two distinct aquifers with differing arsenic levels requires a site-specific analysis.
  • Mr. Sparky Anderson, Texas Clean Water Action made the following points:
    • Arsenic is problematic for America's drinking water and long-term health and economic issues must be considered by public officials;
    • The Council must leave politics out of their look at technology costs;
    • The decision by the new administration to hold back on the 10 Fg/L standard for arsenic in drinking water is less protective of health;
    • Consumer confidence is at an all-time low and must be restored by government leaders at all levels;
    • Regarding the Brushy Creek incident, public notices and emergency planning must start happening;
    • Legislators must be educated about what source water protection and TMDLs mean;
    • Texas has an effort to integrate the CWA and SDWA involving a new permit regime that looks at an entire watershed; SDWA employees need to be encouraged to become involved in state permit negotiations; and
    • A greater degree of funding in the government is needed to address these concerns.
  • Mr. Guerra Addington, West Texas Water Protection Fund and the Sierra Blanca Legal Defense Fund made the following points:
    • Merko, New York City's biosolids landfill, is an illegal operation and he wishes to bring that to EPA's attention;
    • Environmental justice issues concern persons not able to afford bottled water who must drink unsafe tap water, and who do not take water for granted; and
    • suggests publicizing NDWAC meetings better.
  • Mr. Tom Curtis, AWWA made the following point:
    • The idea that a less restrictive standard would increase costs for individuals due to homeowners purchasing home treatment systems is not valid. It is just speculation and is not in keeping with the mandate under the SDWA that EPA has to use cost estimates for which there is a factual basis in the rulemaking record that the cost is likely to be incurred.
  • Mr. Ruben Reyes, El Paso Green Party made the following points:
    • The poor and their lack of options for clean water must be considered; and
    • Clean water should not be an economical issue, but a public health concern

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