Wilma J. Smith, P.E.
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October 28, 2002 |
The City Of Arlington's comments are attached and come from the following:
Michael J. Hasler, PE, Director of Transportation
Wilma J. Smith, PE, Assistant Director of Transportation
David Boski, PE, Transportation Engineering Manager
Sholeh Karimi, PE, Transportation Engineering Manager
Paul Iwuchukwu, PE, Transportation Engineering Manager
Jill House, PE, Interim Assistant Director of Engineering
Lori A. Chapin, PE, Civil Engineer
Rey Gonzales, Traffic Operations Manager
Juanita Bridges, Transit Manager
Mike Blake, Traffic Signal Analyst
Thank you for giving us an opportunity to review the proposed guidelines and
provide comments. If you have questions or require additional information,
please contact me via email or phone at [...].
Wilma J. Smith, P.E.
Assistant Director of Transportation
City of Arlington
Mike Hasler’s Comments
Additions and Alterations (1102.2)
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Last sentence
Question: What if alteration is only a partial project where it doesn’t
“connect” to anything else? It doesn’t make sense to have it comply when nothing
else does on either side.
Minimum Clear Width (1103.3)
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First sentence and Last two sentences
Comment: Larger than private SW’s, widths between handicap spaces and most
doorways
Surfaces (1103.6)
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First sentence
What is the meaning of granite pavers?
Perpendicular Curb Ramps (1104.2.1)
Diagram
What is the minimum width?
Detectable Warnings (1104.3.2)
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Second sentence
What is 2 feet deep?
Mike Hasler’s Comments
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Crosswalks (1105.2)
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Last 2 sentences
Comment: No matter the impact on ROW, grades, access to adjacent property,
drainage, walls cost, impact on vehicle speeds and occupants.
Pedestrian Signal Phase Timing (1105.3)
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First sentence
Comment: 32 seconds a GOB
Vertical Access (1102.12)
Question: Any safety mechanism designed in case of power outage?
On-Street Parking (1102.14, 1109)
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Second sentence
Statement can be achieved by indenting the curb line
Comment: But could also cause a grade problem or impediment.
1105.2.2 Cross Slope
Question: Perpendicular to pedestrians which is the direction of vehicle travel
2% slope on roadway?
1105.2.3 Running Slope
Comment: 5% cross slope
Memorandum
TO: Wilma J. Smith, P.E., Assistant Director of Transportation
From: Juanita Bridges, Transit Manager
Date: October 22, 2002
Subject: ADA Public ROW Guidelines Comments
The following are comments that I had regarding the “Draft Guidelines for
Accessible Public Rights-of-Way”.
Under the Discussion of Provisions section, I had the following comments:
1. General Scoping: New Construction, Alterations, and Additions 1102, there
should be a distinction between “minor” and “major” alterations added. There
should be an exception made to this provision if the total cost of the
accessibility features exceeds the total cost of the alteration project.
2. Accessible Elements and Spaces: Scoping and Technical Requirements, Minimum
Clear Width 1103.3, I believe that the minimum clear width should be 36 inches
to be consistent with ADAAG. Also, the ADA definition of a “common wheelchair”
is 30 inches by 48 inches and 600 lbs. in weight. A 36 inch minimum clear width
will adequately accommodate a common wheelchair. Passing spaces with a width of
36 inches will accommodate a common wheelchair instead of the 60 inches stated
in the draft guidelines. However, 60 inches clearance at turns will accommodate
a common wheelchair of 48 inches in length.
3. Accessible Elements and Spaces: Scoping and Technical Requirements, Surface
Gaps at Rail Crossings 1103.7, the guideline does not clarify if the local
authority or the rail road is responsible for complying with the gap and the
detectable warning requirements. The local authority, in most cases, does not
own or have control over the train tracks or the ground surface adjacent to the
tracks.
4. Accessible Elements and Spaces: Scoping and Technical Requirements, Common
Elements 1104.3, the minimum clear width should be reduced from 48 inches to 36
inches. 36 inches is an adequate amount of space to accommodate a 30 inch wide
wheelchair.
5. Accessible Elements and Spaces: Scoping and Technical Requirements,
Detectable Warnings 1104.3.2, the guideline specifies that truncated domes be
used as the minimum standard detectable warning device, however, truncated domes
are a severe tripping hazard for visually impaired people.
6. Accessible Elements and Spaces: Other Requirements for Curbs, Ramps and
Blended Transitions 1104.3.3 – 1104.3.7, in the last bullet, it specifies a
clear space of 48 x 48 inches. It should be 36 x 36 inches. This is allow
adequate space for a common sized 30 inch wide wheelchair.
7. Pedestrian Crossings: Crosswalks 1105.2, the crosswalk width should be the
same as the MUTCD – 72 inches and not 96 inches. 72 inches is an adequate width
to accommodate two common sized wheelchairs (60 inches minimum).
8. Accessible Pedestrian Signal Systems 1102.8, 1106, it specifies, at
intersections that allow pedestrian traffic, walk indicators should include
additional audible and tactile indicators. I believe this should only be
required at intersections that have marked pedestrian crosswalks and not at
every intersection. Another option would be to require them at intersections
that have crosswalks and/or sidewalks that allow pedestrian foot traffic.
However, to require them at every intersection is unreasonable and cost
prohibitive.
Under the Text of Draft Guidelines section, I had the following comments:
1. 1102.10 Stairs, the contrasting color strip should be marked with a
contrasting color tone and not just a different color because visually impaired
persons may not see color, but can more easily distinguish differences in color
tone.
2. 1103.3 Clear Width, the minimum clear width should be 36 inches instead of 48
inches.
3. 1104.2.1.3 Landing, a landing should be a minimum of 36 by 36 inches and not
48 by 48 inches.
4. 1104.2.2.3 Landing, a landing should be a minimum of 36 by 36 inches and not
48 by 48 inches.
5. 1104.3.1 Width, again the minimum width should be 36 inches.
6. 1104.3.7 Clear Space, the minimum width should be 36 by 36 inches instead of
48 by 48 inches.
7. 1108 Detectable Warning Surfaces, General, truncated domes are not a good
device to use as a tactile warning device. For visually impaired persons,
truncated dome can be a tripping hazard.
If you have any questions or need additional information, please let me know.
Thanks!
RESPONSES TO DRAFT GUIDELINES FOR ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC
RIGHTS-OF-WAY DATED JUNE 17, 2002
DISCUSSION OF PROVISIONS
Additions and Alterations (1102.2)
1. Definition for “substantial reconstruction” open to subjectivity
2. Definition for “limited improvements” open to subjectivity
3. Who defines “technically infeasible”?
4. Who makes the determination on a case by case basis?
5. What is the potential cost for delays during the evaluation?
6. Delays and requirements will increase overall cost of doing business in
public rights-of-way significantly
Surface Gaps at Rail Crossings ( 1103.7)
1. Detectable warnings for each track approach within the railroad rights-of-way
would be whose responsibility to install and maintain?
Curb Ramps and Blended Transitions (1102.6, 1104)
1. The dual ramp requirement causes several issues at existing intersections and
even more issues at new intersections. At existing intersections, not only will
existing storm drains and utility poles pose a problem, but also where dual curb
ramps can be installed a visibility issue for vehicular traffic will exist. Dual
ramps force the installation at the terminus of a curb return. In turn, the
crosswalk and stop bar have to match the curb ramps; therefore, installation of
a 96” cross walk, 24” stop bar and the necessary spacing between will force the
vehicle stop point behind the current visibility clips at intersections.
Perpendicular Curb Ramps (1104.2.1)
1. 48” X 48” level landings at the top of ramps will require additional
rights-of-way purchases to accommodate. Clear space requirements will increase
this need at intersections as well.
Detectable Warnings (1104.3.2)
1. Depending on the application, the truncated domes may still cause problems
for wheel chair users.
Informational Signs and Warning Signs (1102.7.2)
1. It is unclear what the expectation is from the new guidelines as to what
these signs are expected to provide for visually impaired pedestrians.
Pedestrian Crossing (1102.8, 1105)
1. Profile grades of 2 percent at intersection crosswalks are normally
reasonable; however, in street conditions that have over 5 percent continuous
grade, this requirement will have an overwhelming affect on construction cost
for new and existing intersections.
Roundabouts (1105.6)
1. This guideline will all but eliminate the use of this method of continuous
flow application due to cost and the fact that continuous flow would no longer
be attainable.
Lori Chapin has reviewed the new ADA regulations you sent Keith
from our perspective. For the most part, the new regulations would help clear up
some issues from our perspective, assuming they would also be incorporated into
the Texas Accessibility Standards which is what TDLR enforces. The few items we
would like to include in comments you forward back to TEXITE or whatever
procedure has been set up are attached. Please give me or Lori a call if you
have questions. Thanks.