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Abrupt Climate ChangePublic Review Comments on Draft Prospectus for Synthesis and Assessment Product 3.4 |
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Collated Public Comments received from 7 November 2006 – 7 December 2006 Reviewers1- Meric Srokosz, Ph.D.National Oceanography Centre, Southampton (NOCS), Empress Dock, Southampton, SO14 3ZH, UK Tel:+44 (0)23 80596414 (direct line); Fax: +44 (0)23 80596400 E-mail: or Personal Web page. Science Coordinator NERC Rapid Climate Change Programme 2- James F. Todd, Ph.D. 3- Brigid DeCoursey or Camille Mittelholtz 4- Ashley D. Williamson (on Behalf of Jerry Elwood) 5- Michael MacCracken, Ph.D. 6- Jochem Marotzke, Ph.D. General CommentsMeric SrokoszYour lead authors (section 3) do not have anyone representative of the oceanographic observing community working on the MOC - in the USA you could co-opt Prof. Bill Johns of RSMAS, Miami University, who is heavily involved in observing the N. Atlantic MOC.
James F. ToddIn the section regarding the meridional overturning circulation (MOC), the report authors should be aware of the science coming out of the UK RAPID program, in which the US is a participant. There have been several recent advances in our understanding of MOC variability from this effort. Further, the UK RAPID effort seems to be much more up-to-date with respect to the attack on the problem - when contrasted with this report. For instance, it seems that it would be very important to ask the question "What is the present state of the MOC?" I would suggest that the following individuals be considered part of the writing team:
Brigid DeCoursey or Camille MittelholtzSAP 3.4 seems to reflect some of the information that was in the NASA presentation on the polar ice caps given at the September "blue-box" meeting. This prospectus does not seem to reflect any coordination with this work. We suggest coordination with NASA.
Ashley D. Williamson (on behalf of Jerry Elwood)How is 1.2 related to 3.4? 1.2 will look at Abrupt Climate Change in the Arctic; 3.4 deals solely with Abrupt Climate Change. So will both deal with Abrupt Climate Change. It is not clear where climate processes will be dealt, under 1.2 or 3.4? Given these assessment products in the same stage of evolution, there needs to be some cross-talk so redundancy is reduced.
Michael MacCrackenFirst General CommentThis prospectus describes an interesting, excellent and very important effort. It should certainly go forward and be well supported.
Second General CommentIn the discussion of Question iv that the report will consider, a particularly important instance of apparently rapid ice sheet melting that should be presented and evaluated is the lead-in to the Eemian interglacial, when there are some indications that melting of the Greenland and/or Antarctic ice sheets could have been contributing to a rate of sea level rise of order 1 meter/century.
Third General Comment:In addressing each of the four questions, the report should make clear the limitations of the analyses done to date (e.g., as reported on in the IPCC assessments), and compare the potential magnitude and rate of what is found in these studies with the magnitudes and rates of the estimates contained in the IPCC assessments. This would greatly help in making clear that the findings reported by the IPCC and agreed to unanimously by roughly 150 countries over the past two decades have necessarily not included a full characterization of the risks posed by human-induced climate change, meaning that the published IPCC estimates are actually conservative rather than worst case.
Jochem MarotzkeOne quick comment on the prospectus: It is disappointing that, although the report aims to investigate the Atlantic MOC, among other phenomena, there is no expertise on or even real mention of measuring its current state. In that, the report, from its basic design, is not even up to date with the RAPID programme, which as one of its great successes has brought together observations of the modern ocean and climate modelling (plus strengthening ties with palaeo). It would be important to remedy that problem, lest the report be marred by being obsolete before it's written. The easiest (?) would be to add Bill Johns (Univ. Miami) to the list of authors. Info on the NERC UK funded RAPID, with significant additional funding from NOAA and NSF:
Specific CommentsMichael MacCrackenPage 6, lines 5-6: It should be noted whether this comparison is on a per molecule or per mass basis.
Page 9, lines 26: I was very pleased to see that “[a]ll comments and responses,” presumably to all stages of the review process described in section 6 of the Prospectus, “will be documented and made publicly available.” This will be an important step in contributing to the credibility of the report, and this should be the case for all CCSP products.
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