<DOC> [105 Senate Hearings] [From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access] [DOCID: f:49177.wais] S. Hrg. 105-599 THE ROLE OF FAITH-BASED CHARITIES IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ======================================================================= HEARING before the SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT OF GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT, RESTRUCTURING, AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA of the COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION __________ MAY 18, 1998 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on Governmental Affairs <snowflake> U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 49-177 cc WASHINGTON : 1998 _______________________________________________________________________ For sale by the U.S. Government Printing Office, Superintendent of Documents, Congressional Sales Office, Washington, DC 20402 COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS FRED THOMPSON, Tennessee, Chairman WILLIAM V. ROTH, Jr., Delaware JOHN GLENN, Ohio TED STEVENS, Alaska CARL LEVIN, Michigan SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, Connecticut SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois THAD COCHRAN, Mississippi ROBERT G. TORRICELLI, New Jersey DON NICKLES, Oklahoma MAX CLELAND, Georgia ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania Hannah S. Sistare, Staff Director and Counsel Leonard Weiss, Minority Staff Director Lynn L. Baker, Chief Clerk ------ SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT OF GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT, RESTRUCTURING, AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas, Chairman WILLIAM V. ROTH, Jr., Delaware JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, Connecticut ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania MAX CLELAND, Georgia Michael Rubin, Staff Director Laurie Rubenstein, Minority Staff Director Esmeralda Amos, Chief Clerk C O N T E N T S ------ Opening statements: Page Senator Brownback............................................ 1 WITNESSES Monday, May 18, 1998 Dr. Edward J. Eyring, President and Executive Director, Gospel Rescue Ministries.............................................. 3 Hannah M. Hawkins, Founder and Director, Children of Mine Center. 6 Jim Till, Executive Director, Strategies to Elevate People....... 8 Amy Hunt Johnson, Director, Neighborhood Learning Center......... 12 Hon. Dan Coats, a U.S. Senator from the State of Indiana......... 20 April Lassiter, President, The Initiative for Children Foundation 27 Joe Loconte, Deputy Editor, Policy Review Magazine, The Heritage Foundation..................................................... 30 Alphabetical List of Witnesses Coats, Hon. Dan: Testimony.................................................... 20 Eyring, Dr. Edward: Testimony.................................................... 3 Hawkins, Hannah M.: Testimony.................................................... 6 Prepared statement........................................... 38 Johnson, Amy Hunt: Testimony.................................................... 12 Prepared statement........................................... 49 Lassiter, April: Testimony.................................................... 27 Prepared statement........................................... 55 Loconte, Joe: Testimony.................................................... 30 Prepared statement........................................... 68 Till, Jim: Testimony.................................................... 8 Prepared statement........................................... 47 APPENDIX Additional prepared statement submitted for the record from: Ms. Kay Granger, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas, prepared statement............................... 37 THE ROLE OF FAITH-BASED CHARITIES IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ---------- MONDAY, MAY 18, 1998 U.S. Senate, Oversight of Government Management, Restructuring, and the District of Columbia Subcommittee, of the Committee on Governmental Affairs, Washington, DC. The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 3:07 p.m., in room SD-342, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Sam Brownback, Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding. Present: Senator Brownback. Staff Present: Michael Rubin, Staff Director; Marie Wheat, Deputy Staff Director; and Esmerelda Amos, Chief Clerk. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR BROWNBACK Senator Brownback. Good afternoon. We will call the hearing to order. As a matter of fact, if our first panel of witnesses would like to go ahead and take their seats at the table, I think that would be a good first step for us to make. I want to welcome everybody here today. Our hearing is going to examine the role of faith-based charity in the District of Columbia. I would like to give an especially warm welcome to our guests from the various charities throughout the DC area who are giving us their precious time and were willing to share with us today a little insight into how they serve the people of the District. Last year, I visited several small charities in my home State of Kansas, and what I found were folks on the front lines, with open hearts and amazing love, who were living proof of the effectiveness of small, local charities. I was encouraged to see the success of faith-based ministries in responding to the needs of those around them. I visited the Topeka Rescue Mission, the Marion Clinic in Topeka, and I had previously visited Salvation Army facilities. I saw really a broad range of local charities with open arms and hearts reaching out and really helping people. A lot of times, folks look at these and say, ``It is too small to really do anything.'' The beauty of it is there are so many that are doing so much and reaching out and touching and helping and changing lives. I was very encouraged by that, and that is why I wanted to have the same sort of view on DC charities today, with a hearing first, and then I hope to get out within the next couple of weeks and visit a number of charities in the District of Columbia as well and see what things they are doing. Certainly, we have problems in Washington, DC, in the Nation's Capital. There is poverty, drug addiction, crime and violence. Seemingly every day, we learn of new atrocities going on in the streets and even in our schools in the Nation's Capital. But what we often do not read in the paper are the stories of the ordinary people, the true heroes of our society, who are giving their lives, their hearts, and even their very destiny to help the people here in the District of Columbia. We want to look at that today. The witnesses here today will share how they display compassion to the alcoholic and her children, how they administer ``tough love'' cloaked in empathy to drug addicts and prostitutes. It certainly is not easy work, I can assure anyone who is listening or watching; yet these witnesses today spend their lives doing this work day in and day out, helping people so much and reaching out to them in whatever condition they are in. Part of the reason why I called this hearing today is that I believe we must encourage these charities--not discourage them. I want to lift up the good that they do and highlight their effectiveness so that others might follow the same example. I am a Federal legislator, yet I believe the Federal Government is sometimes limited, and in many places often is limited, in its capacity to solve the problems that plague our Nation's Capital and even our Nation as a whole. I do believe that the Federal Government can assist in eliminating perverse incentives from our inner cities, encourage entrepreneurship and charitable giving. At a minimum, the Federal Government should not be a barrier to the work of charities. As many of you know, I am part of a group of 16 Members from the House and 13 from the Senate who have already formed the Renewal Alliance. The mission of our group is ``to build a partnership between government and community-based, nonprofit charities in order to promote real solutions to human problems.'' To me, the Renewal Alliance is all about bringing balance to the relationship between the State and the institutions of civil society. We promote in the Alliance community renewal, economic empowerment and educational opportunities for low- income families. In the next panel, we will hear from Senator Coats, who leads the Renewal Alliance, about some of the work that he has been doing and what else he feels is possible for us to do in the District of Columbia. We will begin today by hearing from four local charities, and I am delighted that you have all been willing to join us today and hopefully receive a bit of recognition for all the great work you do, day in and day out, in a very difficult set of circumstances. First, we will hear from Dr. Ed Eyring, President and Executive Director of the Gospel Rescue Ministries of Washington, DC Gospel Rescue Ministries helps crack addicts and the homeless getting men off drugs and teaching them practical skills. Next up will be Hannah Hawkins, founder of Children of Mine, an after school program providing a hot meal, clothing and tutoring to needy children in Anacostia. I am looking forward to that testimony as well. Next, we will hear from Jim Till, who will speak about the STEP program, Strategies to Elevate People, a ministry with services ranging from summer day camp for children to adult literacy training. And finally on this panel, we will hear from Amy Johnson, who will share about the Neighborhood Learning Center and their tutoring programs. I am looking forward to hearing from each of you about how you feel your charity has worked, and also, please feel free to express any of the needs that you might have, or things that we might change in Washington as well. I am delighted with all of your work. Mr. Eyring, let us hear from you first. TESTIMONY OF DR. EDWARD J. EYRING, PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, GOSPEL RESCUE MINISTRIES Dr. Eyring. Thank you, Senator Brownback. Listening to you talk, I almost wondered if I needed to bother, but I guess I will go ahead. Senator Brownback. Yes, I want to hear about what you are doing and the obstacles you experience, too. Dr. Eyring. Thank you so much for inviting us to come here and talk about good news, some of the good things that are happening in Washington, DC. We believe that the root cause of drug addiction, crime and homelessness is often alienation of the individual from conventional society, and we believe that Jesus provides the most appropriate model for us to follow to see fundamental heart changes within the individual. I most particularly would like to tell you about what we at Gospel Rescue Ministries are doing to model the character of Jesus in such a way that the bonds of alienation are broken, and lives are transformed. Now, if proof of any pudding is in the eating, then the proof of what we do should be transformed lives, and I have taken the liberty of bringing some of that proof with me. The first person I would like to introduce is my wife, Mary Jane, who lives with me at Gospel Rescue Ministries and shares our lives with the 110 men there--just eight blocks from where we are sitting right now. Senator Brownback. Yes; I drive by it once in a while. Dr. Eyring. Come in; drop in. Mary Jane believes that we should model a family, that that is the model we should create in our place, basically by caring for one another and thinking about one another. Mary Jane prayed for 14 years for me to get things straightened out and accept Jesus as the best model for our family. Most folks pride themselves when they get into the centerfold of Playboy, but my wife made the centerfold of The Washington Times a couple of weeks ago, and I just thought you would like to see her picture. Senator Brownback. Congratulations. I like that centerfold much better. Dr. Eyring. I will leave you a copy. I have also asked David Treadwell, who is the director of Central Union Mission, our sister faith-based organization here in the District, to join us to illustrate that genuine collaboration can actually occur between previously competing groups. People say, ``You cannot work with them; they are your competitors.'' And I am saying that that is not actually true. Just last week, for example, David brought men and trucks from his mission to our mission to help us move furniture around, and in exchange, we gave him some of the furniture, so we both profited from that. David has brought with him Brian Thompson. Senator Brownback. Welcome. Dr. Eyring. Brian graduated from Michigan State, fell into some of the problems that you have been talking about, and got his life together at Central Union Mission. I have also invited James Washington, who is probably the most famous member of our group, who works here on Capitol Hill--as you all know, Senator Coats talks about him quite a bit--he made the centerfold, too. Only 12 months ago, James was a member of our change Point Ministry, working to overcome the effects of drugs and a shattered, dysfunctional family, which had left him alienated from society as we know it. Just last week, a staff person from Senator Kennedy's office told my wife that whenever she is feeling pressured or frenzied, just seeing James helps her put things in better perspective so she can face the day here on Capitol Hill. Could it be that James' attitude and smile embodies the hope in Jesus that we all need to persevere? We believe in establishing relationships as the preferred means of effecting change. After all, Jesus did just that. He walked along with his disciples and shared his life with them, and they were changed. We at Gospel Rescue Ministries develop relationships with our members. We believe that does as much or more, fundamentally, to transform lives than a well-crafted and executed case management strategy. Sure, we do drug testing, but we combine it with life lessons. For example, we ask each person before the test if he has used. If his answer is ``No,'' and the test says ``Yes,'' the discipline that the member has chosen for himself is 10 times more severe than it would have been if he had been truthful. In that way, we build trustworthiness and honesty into these transformed lives. To illustrate trustworthiness, I have asked Nate Jones, our food services coordinator and director of our Zacchaen Ministry to join us as well. The Zacchaens prepare our food and teach food services to their members. Not only is Nate considered a benchmark in the food service business around the District, but he has one of the highest success rates in putting homeless and previously addicted men to work in food services within the District. Yet Nate himself fought off the grip of heroin addiction through our Ministry. Gospel Rescue Ministries, with its effective record in transforming lives of crack cocaine addicts--our reported success rate is about 70 percent, as noted by Senator Coats-- has caught the eye of the Department of Justice. Both Attorney General Reno and Assistant Attorney General Holder came to our neighborhood and transferred publicly a building named the Fulton Hotel--nicknamed ``Murder Hotel''--to Gospel Rescue Ministries to be restored to its historic beauty and used to provide a safe haven for women with drug addiction problems, primarily crack cocaine. You may not be aware that women and children represent the most rapidly growing segment of the population addicted to crack cocaine. Our ministry to women will be patterned after our model program for men, which is called The Haven. We believe that education is essential for successful integration into modern American society. And just parenthetically, we feel that the idea of ``Work first'' has a potential pitfall in providing education afterward. From our perspective, we really do believe that people ought to be educated first, rather than going to work and trying to pick up education secondarily. Our School of Tomorrow provides GED training, and so far, nearly 50 people have successfully passed the exam in the last 2 years. Also, we provide training for the commercial driver's license. This course is taught by a man named Earl Cotton, who successfully transformed his own life at Gospel Rescue Ministries, and he can boast that 100 percent of the people, both men and women, who have completed his classes have passed the tests. Hundreds of women and men have taken our computer courses, which employ state-of-the-art technology, which I guess is what they call 586's and 686's and Windows and those things that I do not know much about. Our recent program within the school is called WorkNet. This is our strategy for welfare-to-work. It is designed to effectively equip people to enter the work force. Over the years, we have seen dozens find work, mostly in survival jobs, as part of our ministry; but this new strategy is designed not just to find survival jobs, which usually lead nowhere, but it is designed to find entry-level employment in a substantial career track, which matches the individual's gifts and dreams with what could reasonably be expected to lead to promotion. And last but not least, I will tell you about Barnabas House. We are just opening this ministry today, as a matter of fact, as a transitional house for graduates of our other ministries. Many of these men simply cannot go back to the environment from which they came. Our vision is to transform neighborhoods as well as individuals. We dream, for example, of establishing a site for cooperative ministry here in the District between many agencies to meet the complex needs of a whole neighborhood. I would like to cite an example of such a site, which is the McKinley- Langley-Emory School site in Northeast Washington, just off North Capitol Street. It is a place that we could just get so excited about. Wouldn't it be exciting to see the whole service community working together to see an entire neighborhood transformed into the hospitality image of Jesus. Thank you again for allowing me to testify here. We look forward to hosting you and your staff at Gospel Rescue Ministries. Senator Brownback. I look forward to going there and seeing it. I have visited several in my home State, but I have not visited this one, so I look forward to getting there. You remind me, too, what someone was telling me the other day that prostitutes, criminals, and tax collectors never felt uncomfortable around Jesus during his ministry in his time; it was only the religious leaders who generally did--some of them, not emulating some of the models that he was talking about. And when that person mentioned that, I thought, well, that is certainly true, isn't it. He just reached out all the time in that transcendent love. Dr. Eyring. That is right. Senator Brownback. Thank you. I look forward to some questions in a moment. Ms. Hawkins, my staff has briefed me on your program and says I need to send my own kids to your program, that you have gotten them to where they respond quickly and well, and are doing great. I am looking forward to hearing about your program and how you do that. TESTIMONY OF HANNAH M. HAWKINS,\1\ FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR, CHILDREN OF MINE CENTER Ms. Hawkins. Bless your heart, Senator Brownback. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Ms. Hawkins appears in the Appendix on page 38. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- My name is Hannah M. Hawkins. ``Hannah'' is a name you can spell backward and forward and get the same name. I would like to just deviate from my written speech for a few seconds. Over 16 years ago, I was counseling adults who had a chemical abuse problem, and I saw that so much emphasis was being thrust toward the adult chemical abusers, that they did not understand society, and that they were really leaving behind the children, and consequently, they left a lot of children with dope-fiend behavior. For 16 years, I have been dealing with children at the Children of Mine Center. I founded that center in my home, without any government funding, very few volunteers--just through the grace of God. I was just like the little old lady in the shoe who began to have so many children she really did not know what to do. So I went to public housing, and they gave me a 2-bedroom apartment in the naked city. Now you will probably say to yourself, what does she mean by the naked city? The naked city is classified as a community without any resources and only a fool would dare to tread there. It was public housing in Sheridan Terrace. I founded the center with approximately 140 children coming from everywhere, not just in the community of Anacostia--but I also service children in Virginia and Maryland, as well as the District of Columbia. Our slogan is ``The cost of real love is no charge.'' There is no charge for the services that we provide at the Children of Mine Center. And what I would like to emphasize--and I am glad that you eluded to it, Senator, because so many of our churches get caught up in church. And I hate to say this, because I always run into trouble, but if God would come down here, visibly, and stand before us, one of the first institutions he would close would be the churches, because many of the churches are not reaching out to the least, the lost and the lonely. And I can very well say that because of where I am located. I am located, sandwiched in between hundreds of churches, and I get no support. It is only from people that I least expect that support to come from, that I get it. I would also like to say that I got the idea for the Children of Mine Center in my home when I saw so much despair. I started with a group of small children at the age of 4. Now I am servicing 4 through 18. And I am here to say to you today, my brothers and sisters, that we have not seen anything yet. In the next few years, we will be dealing with children of the damned. And you wonder what I mean by that--a lot of it will come from welfare reform. Many of these children, after their mothers are displaced or placed off the roles, are being thrown away. I know, because I get at least 6 to 10 children per day, begging me for a place to stay. And these are not adults. These are children ranging in age from 4 through 10, a critical stage. I just left this morning The Psychiatric Institute, which is on Wisconsin Avenue. One of my 9-year-old boys tried to commit suicide. These are the cases that I am running into every day. I am glad to know that you are not just sitting up here in these marble halls, behind a desk. I am glad to know that you are coming out, because that is the only way that you can really say that you have seen the true picture. I would also like to say that I have lobbied the DC Council, I have lobbied many other congressional aides, trying to reestablish not only my place--because I am just busting loose at the walls--but I am trying to establish a settlement house for children. Just alone, myself, I take home five and six children each night, along with many of the volunteers. Every day, a child comes, begging, ``Please take me home,'' because of the despair that is happening in the houses. We provide at the Children of Mine Center--and I know I have limited time, but I would just like to tell you about some of the services that we provide at the Center--we provide acting classes, arts and crafts, Bible study, computer training, drug and alcohol counseling--many teenage adolescents are currently drug abusers, and they are also selling at the ages of 11 and 12. We are also dealing with chronic prostitution. We have a food bank. We have fundraisers. We do outreach. I have two medical doctors who come in from the National Institutes of Health to give physical exams. We have creation. There is safe haven at the Children of Mine Center. I provide social services. We have sewing classes. We have teen services. Also, we have agricultural farming. There is a priest, Father Pittman, who is the oldest priest in the metropolitan area, who loans us his farm to teach the children about agriculture. At one time, the only chicken that some of our children had ever seen was in the grocery store, and that chicken or that rooster was dead; now, they are able to cultivate them on the farm and grow many of the vegetables that we eat at the Center. We have barbering classes. We have dancing lessons. We have educational placement. A group of small donors provided scholarships, such as Dick Armey's office, for some of our children to go to parochial schools, and they are doing so much better since they have been placed from the DC Public School System into a private or parochial school setting. We also provide foster care and adoption services; field trips; parenting skills for our parents; rap sessions; and regular physical checkups. We serve them each and every day a nutritious dinner, and before they leave, we give them a snack to take home, because many of the children after leaving the Center will not receive anything to eat until they go to school the next day, because many of them, 99.9 percent of them, are on the school lunch program at the DC Public Schools. We have tutoring, of course, and volunteer services. These are just a few of the many services we provide. In closing, Senator Brownback, I would just like to say that the greatest sin--and this is not only coming from my head, but it is coming from my heart--the greatest sin that any of us can commit is the sin of omission. It is not the things you do; it is the things you leave undone that become your haunting ghost at night. I am here, not pleading for Hannah Hawkins. I have a place to stay and food to eat. I am pleading for the children, the thousands of children that you--and not you per se, but your staff and the people here on the Hill--will hear about this in the next few years. Many of these children's parents and mothers have been incarcerated due to crack cocaine, and that is another ministry that I am dealing with. I just returned from Albuquerque, New Mexico, where I visited a brand new prison for women out there. Many of our mothers are out there, serving time for grand larceny, auto theft, and different things. And you know that when a woman is incarcerated, it depletes the family, because very seldom can a child go to visit the mother. That is why it is very important that we have established here in the metropolitan area a correctional facility, because once Lorton is closed down in 2001, you can forget all about it--that will be the depletion of the family. Thank you for listening me. If I went over my 5 minutes, I apologize. Senator Brownback. No apology necessary, Ms. Hawkins. That was a powerful statement and powerful testimony on the great work that you are doing. I look forward to talking with you and asking you some more about it. Mr. Till, welcome to the Subcommittee. TESTIMONY OF REVEREND JIM TILL,\1\ EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, STRATEGIES TO ELEVATE PEOPLE Mr. Till. I would like to thank you and say that it is a privilege and an honor to be here with you today. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Till appears in the Appendix on page 47. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The philosophy of the STEP Foundation is straightforward. We believe that poverty is a condition of the spirit which manifests itself in physical need. Poverty is relieved by a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Therefore, STEP focuses on services to others so that through this service, people might meet Jesus. The mission of STEP is to help break the debilitating cycle of poverty and dependency--and I think we all know that once a person gets into this cycle, it is very hard, generation after generation, to break that cycle of poverty and dependency on outside agencies. We try to replace it with a cycle of hope, stressing affirmation through faith in Jesus Christ and a firm educational foundation, so that changes in self-esteem, self- reliance and self-sufficiency can follow. Currently, we are working primarily in the Park View, Park Morton and Petworth neighborhoods of Northwest Washington. Our target populations in those neighborhoods are the children at Park View Elementary and Macfarland Middle School, and the parents of those students. At Park View, there are about 530 students; at Macfarland, there are about 450. With their parents, that is quite a target. The programming that we have established was developed from some needs assessments by STEP staff, school administrators, and community leaders who helped us with the needs of the children and the adults. Let me first address the programming that we have for children through the STEP Foundation. On the elementary school level, we have adopted four primary thrusts. The first thrust is our Thursday evening tutoring program where we try to match students with tutors on not more than a 3-to-1 ratio. It is a 2-hour session where students are primarily tutored in the areas of reading and math for 1\1/2\ hours. The last half hour is set aside for Bible study and snacks, so that the last thing these children hear about before they leave is the gospel of Jesus Christ. At present in this tutoring program, we are serving about 85 children, with about 40 tutors who participate. The second thrust of our children's program is a weekly Bible club. This club meets for 1 hour after school, and a great importance is placed on Biblical training in life skills. We currently have about 50 students who attend our Bible club on Monday afternoons. A third thrust is the Pals Club. This involves pairing a group of volunteers with a group of children for a monthly event. It helps to put a positive role model in the children's lives and also helps them to experience life outside of the two or three blocks where they live and go to school. You would be surprised how many children who live in Washington, DC have never seen this building, have never seen the Capitol, have never seen the White House, have no idea what it is. I remember the first time I took the children from the Pals Club out to McLean Presbyterian Church, and as we were crossing the river, a little third grade boy asked me, ``How does this highway stay above the water?'' He had never been across a bridge. So we feel it is important to get these children out of those three or four blocks and let them see some other parts of life. A fourth part of our children's program is our summer day camp. This helps to give the children something positive to do during the summer rather than learning to sell drugs, learning the street culture. This summer adventure includes daily Bible teaching, arts and crafts, swimming, organized game times, and we try to take them on at least one field trip a week. It is 5 days a week, 8:30 to 5 o'clock, and last summer, we had 100 children involved in our summer day camp. For the middle-school children, which is a new thrust that we have just recently moved into this past year at the Macfarland Middle School, following the kids up from Park View, presently, we are providing a Saturday tutoring and mentoring program. We have found a corporation that has adopted these children. They provide transportation for them each Saturday; they either take them to their corporate offices for tutoring, or on a field trip somewhere that they feel would be enjoyable for the children. Each child has his own individual tutor or mentor who stays with him throughout the entire year, and it has gotten to be quite a sight for me to see how many of these tutors are calling the students at home now, asking, ``Have you done your homework?'' or they will call me and say, ``Johnny called me last night and wanted me to look up something for him on the Internet.'' They have learned about the internet from this corporation, and they are helping them all during the week now, not just on Saturday. This has become a very positive role model situation for these junior high school students. We are also making plans right now to place a Bible club in the middle school for next year as well. Also, we have a daily presence through myself or one of my part-time staff members in these two schools every day. Each morning, I try to make time to walk through Park View Elementary School, where my office is located, and walk by every classroom to see how the children are doing. One thing our teachers are beginning to realize in the public schools is that bad behavior does not mean it is a bad kid, because we do now know what these children have come from when they come to school in the morning. I know that our lunch room is full of children at 7:30 every morning, waiting for breakfast, because there is no food at home. And at lunch, you can tell those who do not have food at home, because no matter how bad the lunch may be, they eat it. And most of them do not eat again until they come back. We have worked with some children at the school--I am talking about kindergarten and first grade students--who may not have seen a parent for 2 or 3 days. They go home to public housing, let themselves in the door, take care of themselves all night, and they are the first ones at school the next morning to get something to eat. Senator Brownback. How old are these kids? Mr. Till. These are 4-, 5-, and 6-year-olds who are on their own. Their mothers are either on Georgia Avenue, dealing crack, or on crack, or they may come home after 3 or 4 days and straighten up for a while. There is a lot of criticism of our public schools, but we have got to realize that these teachers have had to become psychologists and social workers, and before they can start their classes in the morning, they have got to understand what is going on with their children before they can ever get to reading and math. So it is not just a bad situation with the schools; the teachers are in a bad situation to try to teach. It is not that they are not putting forth an effort. I am a great defender of some of our good teachers and our good principals. We do have a daily presence in the schools which allows us to pray with children--I have had teachers ask me to come in classrooms--``Could you start our day off with prayer?'' Teachers are not allowed to do that, but I can do that because I am not a school employee. I can pray with children, and I can help them with their needs. We also believe that it is important to help the family as much as possible, so we have an Adult Education Academy as well. We believe that the best way to actually help a child is to turn a parent's life around so that parent can help that child as well. If we can get a mother who can turn their lives around to Christ, become productive and deal with that child, then the child's problems are primarily over with, and that child will have a positive model at home; we do not have to take him outside the home. We do this through two vehicles. The first is the Adult Education Academy. The academy's goal is to increase the literacy and the life skills of its students. We can educate a drug addict, but then we have an educated drug addict. If we do not change their life skills, changing what is on the inside of them through Jesus Christ, they are no better off--they are not going to be able to hold a job, and they are not going to be able to keep their family together. So a lot of our teaching is through spiritual values and personal growth, and the education portion then falls into place. We have weekly focus groups where these students can get together with their peers and learn to interact with each other in a positive way, rather than getting mad at somebody and reaching around and slapping them or something. They learn how to deal with anger in the proper way, and they learn how to deal with conflict in the proper way. Through these focus groups, they can learn to apply the new life skills that are being taught to them. The second thrust, quickly--and I know I am running short on time--the second vehicle we use is care teams. This is where we try to affect the neighborhood rather than just the family. This is done by one of our academy students reaching back to four of her neighbors and bringing them into a little group together. This academy student then helps to mentor these other four families, and at the same time, all the members of this group are helping each other and encouraging each other. From this, change not only comes to the family, but change comes to neighborhoods also. STEP is very volunteer-intensive. We have very few paid staff; we depend heavily on volunteers, as you have heard from our tutoring and mentoring programs. We have quite a few good volunteers now, but as with all organizations, we always need many, many more. In closing, I would just like to quote from the Apostle Paul's First Letter to the Corinthians, Chapter 10, Verse 33, where he says: ``For I am not seeking my own good, but the good of many, so that they may be saved.'' As we at STEP attempt to fulfill this scripture, we ask for your prayers and the prayers of your colleagues so that we can continue to bring Jesus to them so that they may be delivered out of the lives that they are in now. I would like to thank you once again for allowing me to be here today. Senator Brownback. We are happy to have you here, Mr. Till, and I appreciate that statement of what you are doing to provide nurture to both the soul and the body. Next, we will hear from Amy Hunt Johnson, director of the Neighborhood Learning Center. Thank you very much for joining us today, Ms. Johnson. We appreciate your appearance here today. TESTIMONY OF AMY HUNT JOHNSON,\1\ DIRECTOR, NEIGHBORHOOD LEARNING CENTER Ms. Johnson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for this opportunity to testify this afternoon. My name is Amy Johnson, and I am the director of the Neighborhood Learning Center. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Ms. Johnson appears in the Appendix on page 49. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are a faith-based organization just down the street, at 9th and Maryland Avenue, less than a mile, and we are an out- of-school-time program providing a place where students and their families can learn and grow together. Through our after school and summer enrichment programs, Neighborhood Learning Center provides remediation and academic enrichment, social skill development and spiritual training for children and teens located on Capitol Hill and surrounding neighborhoods. The Center currently serves nearly 65 students in grades 1 through 12, and the majority of our students come from single- parent working families as opposed to some of the situations that we have heard about today, but we see some of the same kind of issues and problems that we have been working with. Our Center works closely in partnership with Miner Elementary School but continues to work with our students as they graduate and either switch to other schools or move into junior high and senior high as well. It is our vision that all of our students will be prepared with an academic, social and spiritual foundation. They will graduate from high school, successfully transition to higher education or full-time employment and become productive, contributing members of their communities. NLC students will strive to love God, their families and themselves, valuing each other and all peoples. After 15 years--we have been in operation for 15 years now--we have seen some of the fruit of our labors. One of our full-time staff members, Carmen Strong, who is here this afternoon, was one of our original students, and after she completed her college degree in elementary education, she came back and has been on staff for the last 3 years and leads our elementary education program. Senator Brownback. Welcome. Ms. Johnson. We have five other students who are in institutions of higher education, and two more are considering enrollment this fall. In fact, 46 percent of our students continue into higher education, and we compare that to the DC public schools' average of 26 percent; so we are seeing some improvement there. A full-time staff and many volunteers facilitate the academic tutoring and homework assistance, computer and reading labs, testing and advocacy, Bible study and enrichment activities, job training, camp opportunities, field trips and parent programs. One of the second grade teachers in our partner school commented to an NLC staff member that she could tell which of her students attended the Center. Their word recognition skills were far more advanced than those of the other students. One student in the class was showing remarkable improvement, and her mother wrote us a note saying the Neighborhood Learning Center was ``heaven-sent.'' She said her child was very slow in reading and that with the help of the Learning Center, she is 90 percent better. We have noticed that our students really dislike science, and we are convinced that the reason for that is because they have not been given interactive, hands-on experience with science. Last summer, our students--similar to the Children of Mine experience--had the opportunity to really have some hands- on experience with science when they monitored the hatching of baby chicks, watched larva turn into butterflies, and they got to dissect frogs and a fetal pig. One of our students whom I will call Lamont--I have changed the names of some of my students to protect their confidentiality--was having a really rough time during the summer until he watched the eggs hatch into baby chicks. Then, something really touched this young man, and the tenderness and care that came out of him was a sight to be treasured. We believe that these are the kinds of experiences that make learning not only exciting but touch the very souls of young people. This fall, Lamont's renewed interest in science continued, and he used some creative problem-solving and developed his own hands-on science experiment, which resulted in a first-place prize in science at his school. We feel like we accomplished something there. But the Learning Center is more than academics, and I would like to share a story about a student who came to us just recently. Despite tremendous hardships at home, like some of the things we have heard today--his father is incarcerated, and his mom has a substance abuse problem--this young man, who was a very bright student, was having numerous discipline problems at school. While it took several months and a very persistent staff for us to get him into our Center, his grandmother finally completed the enrollment papers so he could participate. When he brought in his first report card since his enrollment, we were actually pleased to see that his citizenship grade had improved tremendously. His teacher commented that his behavior and attention at school had improved significantly. We believe that this was true because Keith now has people who care whether he goes to school or not; he has people who care how his day went and whether he finishes homework; he now has someone who gives a warm greeting after school and offers encouragement on a job well done. This sounds insignificant, but it is critical to this young man's future. It is a well-known fact that a young man will find his family somewhere on the street if he does not find it elsewhere. Our students often say they love NLC because of all the wonderful places they get to visit and explore. We are convinced that in order to build dreams for the future, young people need to be exposed to the world, its different people and experiences. We also believe that students should be rewarded for hard work and commitment and motivation. Frequently, these rewards at the Learning Center take the form of trips, near and far, to challenge students beyond their comfort zones. We have taken students whale-watching in the Atlantic Ocean, rock-climbing in Pennsylvania, and we are getting ready to go on a trip to Chicago with our students this week. It is our desire to stand in the gap between school and our students' families. We believe the community has a significant role to play in supporting schools and families and can work successfully in bringing the two together. Our staff volunteer weekly in our partner school to aid in this process. We all know the state of DC public schools, and I do not need to elaborate on that. We often see that students repeatedly fall through the cracks. We have a student, Antonio, who has repeated the first, third and fifth grades, and it has only been through the efforts of our staff that this young man has finally been tested for learning disabilities. While designated to be socially promoted to junior high--you may have heard that all students who are 13 and still in elementary school will be socially promoted next year--we are hopeful that he will be placed finally in a setting that will meet his needs and that he will not be just socially promoted into the eighth and ninth grades. Meeting the needs of the whole child includes working with our parents in being advocates for their children's education and teaching them what they should expect from their children's teachers and schools. One of the hallmarks of the Neighborhood Learning Center is our long-term commitment made to students. Once a student is enrolled in the program and continues to meet our expectations, a commitment is made to walk with this student through high school. Sheron is one of these students, and she is with me today. Sheron--she is waving. Senator Brownback. Welcome. Ms. Johnson. Sheron came to us when she was in the third grade, as a struggling student who has a twin, and she was really struggling with her self-esteem. During her fifth grade year, we decided to put her as the lead in our Christmas pageant, convinced of that which Sheron did not even see in herself. When the parts were distributed, and Sheron was announced as the lead, I can still remember all the other students groaning and complaining that Sheron was going to ruin the Christmas play. But they could not have been farther from the truth. As Sheron practiced, the hidden dramatic talent blossomed, and Sheron was the star of the show and changed forever in the process. Her self-confidence grew and spilled over into every area of her life. Preparing to graduate from Eastern High School in a few weeks, Sheron boasts of dramatic talent and recently performed in Othello at both the Shakespeare Theater and at B. Smith's in Union Station. Knowing your students, their strengths and their weaknesses takes time, and over 75 percent of our students continue year to year, building the foundation for a brighter future. I want to thank you for holding this hearing on faith-based organizations and the contributions that organizations like ours are making. So often, we are asked to minimize the faith component of our programs and downplay its significance in our success stories. However, just as we believe it is important to provide an academic and social foundation, providing a spiritual foundation is critical to the future of our students. A spiritual foundation provides the moral framework for the good decisionmaking that is just a practical application that we all know; but also, it provides the strength to stand firm in adverse situations. Faith-based organizations like the Neighborhood Learning Center have to make the most of every dollar they receive, relying heavily on a small group of committed employees and volunteers to carry out its mission. I am convinced that some of the best work is being done in small, faith-based organizations. Imagine what we could accomplish with a greater resource base. Thank you. Senator Brownback. Thank you very much, Ms. Johnson, for your testimony. That was a beautiful story about Sheron and the Christmas play in the fifth grade. It reminded me of the story they used to tell about Michelangelo, where he was rolling this big rock down the street in his village, and some people asked him, ``Why are you sweating and rolling this big rock down the street?'' And Michelangelo was reported to have said, ``Because there is an angel in there, just waiting to come out.'' And I think there are angels within all people; we just have to figure out how to get them out. Ms. Hawkins, your testimony was the most--not that all of you don't have excellent testimony and a lot of great accomplishments--but yours was perhaps the most troubling, where you said five to eight children each day are coming to you, asking for help. Ms. Hawkins. Yes. Senator Brownback. What ages are those children, and what kind of help are they asking for that is slipping so much between the cracks? Ms. Hawkins. I was sharing with the young lady who brought me over here today, Ms. Leslie Gardner, just a few minute ago how there was a young man--it is usually between Friday and Saturday that these children come to us, and they are in the program, but their mothers are being evicted, and they do not want to go into the shelter, or they do not want to go somewhere else to live, so they ask me or one of my volunteers if they can come and live with us. And this is what is so profound and frightening, because they are little children and adolescents. Senator Brownback. How old are they on average? Ms. Hawkins. Some are 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12. The oldest usually is around 15, or 16. We have a young man who lives in Northeast who is my primary foster parent, and he has eight children living with him now, and he has to move. So when I leave here, I have to go somewhere to try to find him a house, because two more children over the weekend have requested to go and stay with him. He is going to have 10 boys, and so we are looking for a house. I, myself, take home at night about four or five children. Senator Brownback. Every night? Ms. Hawkins. Every night. Senator Brownback. Different children, who just do not have a place to stay that night or do not want to go to the shelter? Ms. Hawkins. Different children, and they do not have a place to stay. Usually, the girls, someone will pick them up; but the young men are the ones who are hanging, and they do not want to be in the street. This is why I was sharing with one of the correctional directors that in the next 2 to 3 years, we will definitely see a whole bunch of young men coming up--they will be very young, and they will be your children of the damned. We are focusing up here, when we need to be looking down here. So it is a very, very serious situation, and the 4- and 5-year-olds come to me from all over the city, not just in Anacostia; they are coming from Northeast, they are coming from Prince George's County. I have children who come to me from as far away as Manassas, Dale City, Centreville, in Northern Virginia. They are in trouble, and they are trying to stay out of the streets. And the more I beg, the more I plead--I do not want anybody to give me anything; I just want someone to give me a place for these children. Senator Brownback. What do you need? What kind of place do you need? Ms. Hawkins. I need a building, something like my dear friend, Dr. Eyring, who has the mission; I need a building like that, because where I am now is just an after-school center. The children get there at around 3:15, and I keep them until 9 o'clock at night. Senator Brownback. So you need a building where you can keep them overnight. Ms. Hawkins. I need a building to keep them overnight temporarily, until a permanent situation can be found for these youngsters. Just like where he has the men, I need a building just like that for the children. Senator Brownback. How many children would you have each night if you had a building like that? Ms. Hawkins. I would have over 100. I service just within the realm of the center each day--and I am not talking about outreach; I do outreach on Wednesday, when I go all over the metropolitan area to see children who cannot come to me but who still have the same need. It is just like a dope fiend--just because you move to California, if you do not take care of the problem here in the District, if you were a dope fiend here, you are going to be a dope fiend there--that is the same way it is with these children. Even though they move from my general area, I still give them outreach services. So I am in a critical situation here, and it is getting worse and worse. Senator Brownback. Do you have your eyes on any buildings that you know of that are available that we could help push for you to get? Ms. Hawkins. Yes, I do, but it is such a bureaucratic situation---- Senator Brownback. What buildings do you have in bureaucratic roadblocks? Ms. Hawkins. Well, there are some houses in the general area where I am, and you have got to go through ``la-dee-da- dee'' and everybody else--and all I want to do is find a building for my children to stay in. That is all. I have no money. I am not federally funded. I do not get anything from the District of Columbia. I get a few dollars here and there from people who are committed to what I am doing, and that is enough to keep the lights on and for me to buy food. I do not get hundreds of thousands of dollars. Senator Brownback. Dr. Eyring. Dr. Eyring. Just to highlight the problem that Hannah is talking about, we have in our constituency some pretty hardened men who have been on the streets, have been in the crack business, have been on drugs for up to 20 and 30 years--and they are scared to death of these children who are coming out now. Our men do not want to be around them. They see these children--and we talk about ``children of the damned''--a problem that is a total quantum difference from the men we have who are lost; I mean, they are really lost. They are sleeping on grates and things like that, and they are afraid for their lives of these children who are coming along now. So I think it is really not a bad idea to give some thought to the nature of the problem. My wife is just telling me that if we had this McKinley site, we would give her all the space she needed. Senator Brownback. The McKinley site that is going to you, or---- Dr. Eyring. Well, we have the same kinds of issues that Hannah does, but there are three big schools, all in the same geographical area, that are on this program for selling the schools to get money to fix the other schools, and we are trying to find a creative way to have that whole site kept together and given to a consortium or a collaborative group of people who could minister to the total family spectrum rather than chopped up and given to developers for the highest dollar. So we are trying to talk the District and your counterparts and you into looking at the idea of assigning this center to a group of us to take care of these problems. Senator Brownback. Would this kind of facility work for you, too, Ms. Hawkins? Ms. Hawkins. Yes, it would. Senator Brownback. That would be the sort of thing that would work for you? Ms. Hawkins. Yes. I would make it more or less a home away from home. This is what the children are looking for--someplace where they can come and feel safe. But they are very dangerous, very dangerous. Senator Brownback. The children themselves are very dangerous? Ms. Hawkins. Yes, because they are angry. They know I go out every day, lobbying. I lobby every day, Senator, and come back empty-handed. And then, when I turn on the TV and see someone being given $100,000, who does not do a fraction of what we are trying to do for these kids here, it really vexes my soul. These kids are very, very depressed, and they are very, very angry, and consequently, they are very, very dangerous. It is survival. And most men--and the reverend said it--most men are very afraid of them. Senator Brownback. They are afraid on the streets? Yes, please, Mrs. Eyring. Mrs. Eyring. I am Mary Jane Eyring; I am the other half of this man right here. Senator Brownback. The transforming part of this, I believe. Mrs. Eyring. One of the reasons why we are so excited about the possibility of this complex of schooling is that there is a marvelous physical facility of football fields, tennis courts, basketball fields and a baseball diamond. These children, as well as the men whom we are serving, need to have some outlet. They stand on corners, stand and smoke and talk and think about things they can do to get into trouble. They need to have something to do. They need to have competitive sports that they can participate in, and this would provide us with a means of giving them this opportunity. Senator Brownback. Good. Dr. Eyring, you stated a 70 percent record on getting people off of drug addiction in your program. Did I catch that correctly? Dr. Eyring. That is correct. Senator Brownback. How does that compare to other treatment programs? Dr. Eyring. One of the problems we have is that people do not always compare apples with apples. For example, if you measure the success rate of people who come into the program versus those who graduate, a good success rate is 50 percent. If you take the people who graduate, and then you follow them for a certain period of time--and that particular number comes from a group of men who graduated from our drug management center, called the Haven, and were followed for 15 months--we found that 70 percent of them were still clean and sober and productive. It is very important to find out exactly how the statistics that you are looking at were measured, but that is how we do it, and I know everybody does it a little differently. I would like to say that they would like to be clean and sober and a Senator, or something like that, as a sign of success, but we would not get very many successes that way, so we have to be somewhere in the practical range. Follow-up is very difficult; that is one of the things we are looking at now, is a means of assessment and follow-up of the people who come through. Senator Brownback. I do not know that many people would say becoming a Senator is a sign of success or not. They may look at that a little differently. I appreciate the specific example that you have given me of this facility, because that is something that we can follow up on, and I am turning to staff to make sure we do that. We do have some chances here, as change are going on in the District of Columbia, to try to do some things like this, and this is a terrible situation that you are identifying and something we need to address. Do any of you see specific items that are blockages in the way of your programs delivering services or things that we need to address to allow you and your programs to be more effective? Dr. Eyring. I do, but you need a chance. Ms. Hawkins. Go ahead. Dr. Eyring. A lot of it has to do with permitting and zoning and ANCs and city government and the Federal Government. We tried to put this Barnabas House building on the line, and we have been over a year just trying to get the permit signed and people to come and look at the place, and one thing just leads to another. It is very, very complex in terms of even the selling of the schools. They have a system where people put in bids, and if they do not like the bids, they do an appraisal, and then they come in for a best offer after the appraisal, and if they do not like that, then you put them back into the bidding process. It could take us 10 years to get these buildings through the ordinary bureaucratic river that flows in the District, so I am looking to you as ``God'' in this situation, to simply say, ``Hey, give it to these people, and write off a certain amount of the debt from the public schools'' and say, ``Hey, you do not have to pay us that much--instead, you count this assignment against what you owe us.'' I think the Board of Trustees that has been assigned to sell these buildings would probably be happy if part of their debt were written off and this thing was diverted. Unfortunately, I am a surgeon, and I sort of cut to the quick of things, and what I am saying is not standard District bureaucracy, but I do think that is the thing that I run into. Perhaps some of you would like to comment on that. Ms. Johnson. I would like to comment on the same theme. One of my staff has been very involved, and we are trying to start a school, and last year, it could not open in our facility because of zoning issues. It has taken another whole year just to get a hearing, so we are in the same kind of situation, where we are just trying to get a zoning variance, and the red tape and the bureaucracy around that and knowing just how to make that happen is a very trying situation. Ms. Hawkins. I am currently in the Southeast Neighborhood House, and I have been in court for the past 6 years, trying to save the facility. They have board members who are no longer board members, but it is still lingering. I would also like to say, Senator, that there are plenty of vacant, boarded-up houses right there that I could utilize and get started with--tomorrow. With your help and through the grace of God, I would like to see that happen. But going through all this bureaucratic stuff is nonsense. Like the Reverend said, the children are getting older, the children are getting angrier, yet all of these houses are still boarded-up. So I would like it if, through your influence, you could help to get things moving for us. Senator Brownback. That is a good point. You have given us a couple of good suggestions here, things that we can help with and work with you on. We will re-contact you as well after this hearing to see if there are things that we can do specifically on targeted facilities. You have given us a good example of this one here, and we will see if we can follow up with you and help you move through some of the bureaucracy as well. A lot of the Senate offices do a great deal of that for constituents back home, and the District of Columbia does not necessarily fall into anybody's specific category--it falls into all of our categories. So we need to do a lot, each of us, in that area. This has been an excellent panel. I am heartened by your work, and I want to be a partner with you to help you get it done, and we are going to see what we can help out with. As I mentioned, I will be touring, and we will see if we can help facilitate some of these needs. Thanks a bunch. Senator Brownback. Next, we will hear from the Hon. Dan Coats, the Senator from Indiana, who is the head of the Renewal Alliance and dean of all of us who seek to do the good and noble things in Washington. Dan has been an inspiration to me for many, many years. I hate to see him leaving the U.S. Senate, but I know his work is not done, and it will continue in many other places. Senator Coats, thanks for joining us here today. Your staff member has been here, listening to a number of other folks who have been testifying ahead of you. Let me know what you think we ought to do about the District of Columbia and what we can do with Renewal Alliance efforts in DC. TESTIMONY OF HON. DAN COATS, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF INDIANA Senator Coats. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much for inviting me here today. I want to commend you not only for your participation and involvement in a number of the renewal efforts that I have been involved in and that many of us have been involved in, but for your leadership, particularly in calling this particular hearing to again highlight the importance of nongovernment organizations, community-based organizations, faith-based organizations in addressing some of the most difficult social problems that our country faces, particularly urban social problems, and in this particular instance, those problems that are just down the street from where we now sit that have had such a profound negative impact on the lives of so many here in Washington, DC, but also offer such great hope, I think, for addressing these problems through utilization of the services, the transforming nature that many of these organizations can bring to renew neighborhoods and, more importantly, to renew lives. I commend you for your interest in that. One of the great satisfactions that I have in leaving the Senate is knowing that there is a cadre of individuals like yourself who share the vision, who have the passion to activate that vision in a meaningful way and to assist these organizations and bring about real renewal and real hope for renewal for the people of the District of Columbia as well as other areas of the country. I think the District of Columbia can serve as a great example of how we can address a lot of these problems in a more effective than they have been addressed in the past. We both know, Mr. Chairman, that over the past 30 years, we have undertaken the greatest experiment in the history of mankind to try to utilize the services of government, the revenues that this wealthy Nation has been able to supply, to solve these problems; and we both know that while many of these programs were well-intended and well-motivated, they not only have failed to solve the problem, but in many cases, they have aggravated existing problems by creating a culture of dependency, by misapplying funds that ought to go to those in need and instead are eaten up in a very significant way by the bureaucracies that have been established. The Beacon Hill study just a few years ago indicated that more than 60 percent, almost two-thirds, of the dollars that are appropriated never get into the hands of the individuals who most need them; that along the way, bureaucracy and a number of other entities seem to interrupt that flow of well- intended support. But as a black rural minister told our Subcommittee on Children, Youth and Families in Macon, Georgia several years ago at a hearing on the problems of rural youth--he looked us directly in the eye from the witness table--about eight or nine Members, both Republicans and Democrats--and he said, ``You people in Congress just do not seem to understand. All the money in the world, all the programs in the world do not go to the heart of solving the problems that I have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. You need to understand that we are dealing here with individuals who consist of body, mind, soul and spirit. And there is no way that government can or should even try to be involved in solving the problems of soul and spirit. That is the role of the family. That is the role of the church. That is the role of organizations that are not tied to government, not restricted by First Amendment problems, not tied to bureaucratic oversight, but those that are constituted to reach in and change individuals from the inside out. Government is constituted to try to solve problems from the outside in--change the environment, and you will change society.'' Well, for 30 years, we have pretty much had that backward--change individuals, and we will change neighborhoods, and we will change societies. But you have to start with the individual. And when you are dealing with the individual, as Reverend McKinney said at that hearing in Georgia, you are dealing with more than just material needs; you are dealing with profound social problems, psychological problems, problems of the heart, as well as mind and body. So that providing a roof, providing a meal, providing a process does not address the fundamental, underlying needs that have resulted in some of the problems in the first place. That is why I was so pleased to know that you were holding this hearing and that you are reaching out to organizations that have demonstrated success in changing the lives of individuals and, therefore, changing communities and neighborhoods and families and changing society by these individuals' changed lives. I was proud to walk in and see someone who has become very near and dear to me in addition to the Eyrings--James Washington, who is a living demonstration and representative of many living demonstrations of that transformation that can take place. I hope James has an opportunity to tell you his story; I do not know if he is here accompanying the Eyrings or not, but his is one of the most inspiring stories that I have ever heard--but it is not unique, and that is where the hope comes from. There would be hope enough just in James' story, one life, but James represents hundreds if not thousands of transformations that have literally been what society would call unexplainable. No Federal program made this happen, and no amount of Federal revenues made this happen, no well-intended Federal, 5- step, 10-step, 20-step, 50-step program made this happen. It was the combination of the kind of love--some would call it ``tough love''--combined with spiritual transformation that James was able to receive when he walked through the door of the Gospel Rescue Ministries that succeeded where numerous programs before had failed. His life today is a living witness and testament to the success of these organizations that can bring not only elements that deal with body and mind, but soul and spirit. The reason why we need to encourage these types of organizations is because that is where the real hope lies, and that is where the real transformation can take place. Because we know that government cannot create these types of organizations and cannot be in that kind of business and would not be successful if they were, we know we need to go beyond government. We need to reach out and find ways in which we can nurture and encourage and expand and allow these organizations to do greater work. So the question comes, is there a role for government. I think there is a role; there is a transition role as government transitions from a system that has demonstrated failure to encouraging those organizations outside government that have demonstrated success and to help rebuild those organizations. You know, it was not that long ago when they flourished in society. The church was the center of the social services, it reached out to people, and these organizations had a more prominent role. But government came along in the sixties and seventies and said, ``They are not doing enough, and we can do much more through government.'' Well, we are about $4 trillion or more later. We are 30 years later. We are a lost generation later. Now, fortunately and thankfully, we are turning back to recognizing the value that these organizations and these types of programs can bring, and the kind of healing and the kind of hope that they can bring. You have been working with me, Mr. Chairman, and our colleagues to form the Renewal Alliance, to promote ways in which we can begin the transition back to these types of organizations so they can play a much more prominent role. We have created a number of initiatives, the latest of which is called ``REAL.'' ``REAL'' stands for Renewal, Empowerment, Achievement and Learning. It is a package which we introduced together not that long ago which contains three basic components. It is a very significant piece of the puzzle, I think, in terms of how we reach out and paint that mosaic which will really make a difference in so many lives, but none of us claim that it is the only blueprint. It is one of a series of initiatives, but we think it is one that has a real chance of success in the Congress to begin this transition process back. I would just like to briefly explain it for the record, and I know you know much about it. It contains three basic components. First, the Real Life Community Renewal Act is a renewal credit, combined with liability reform and charitable donation protections. But the heart and soul of this is allowing individuals to achieve a tax credit to offset some of their tax dollars if they direct those dollars toward organizations like Gospel Rescue Mission, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Big Brothers, Big Sisters, Salvation Army--some of these programs that are working within our communities and are making such a difference in people's lives. We think it holds a great deal of promise. Two, we avoid First Amendment problems. It is not a politician or a government bureaucrat who is directing where the money goes; it is the individual taxpayer himself or herself who is saying: ``I think some of my tax dollars can be used more effectively by my selecting an organization that I think is really making a difference, rather than sending it to Washington, where it seems to just get lost in a maze of bureaucracy, and I do not know where it goes.'' When I read this Beacon Hill study, saying that two-thirds of it never gets to the people that I think the government is going to use it for, I think I can do a lot better with my dollar by giving it to an organization where I know the people who run it, I know the kind of work they do, I have seen the results, I volunteer there on a Saturday, or I have a friend who volunteers there--I have much more confidence in this. I have used the line, and maybe you have, too, that if you had $1,000, and it was eligible for a tax credit, but you knew it was going to be sent to the government to be used for social purposes, and you really cared about providing, say, good housing for low-income individuals, do you think that dollar would be better used and would go farther if you gave it to Habitat for Humanity or to Housing and Urban Development? Well, 999 out of 1,000 will say I think Habitat for Humanity can make better use of that money. The only one we find who votes on the other side is the local HUD representative who shows up at the town meeting. If you care about fatherless kids, kids without a father in the home, do you think Big Brothers, Big Sisters or big government can better address that problem? On and on it goes. So the value of the tax credit, we think, and giving individuals a choice as to where their money goes--if they think it can be better used in HUD, fine, they pay their taxes; but if they think it can be better used at Habitat or better used at Gospel Rescue Mission, then we want an incentive in place to do that. The second part of that package is the Economic Empowerment Act. That brings the economic renewal, combined with the social service renewal, into poverty areas or low-income communities. It combines a whole series of targeted benefits for the 100 poorest communities in the Nation to demonstrate its benefit, with pro-growth tax benefits, regulatory relief, brownfields cleanup, home ownership opportunities, and a number of initiatives that you and I have worked on in the House previously and are now working on in the Senate. The third part of that package is educational opportunities. We think that economic empowerment, compassionate care that works, combined with educational opportunities for young people, are a good set of initiatives that really bring hope and transformation to some of our poorest communities. We have also worked together on these scholarships for children, particularly as it applies to the District, since that is what we are talking about here today. The whole scholarship here in DC is, I believe, going to make DC schools better schools; it is going to bring about the reforms that we have been pleading with the system to make, but without much success, because they really have not been put in the competitive situation whereby they either improve their product, or they do not survive. Not that long ago, the Washington Scholarship Fund offered 1,000 scholarships, and 7,500 people signed up. There probably would have been a lot more if they thought they had a chance. Some additional funds are going into that, and part of this whole effort is to try to provide some funds that will give the only kids in America who do not have a choice as to where they get their education a chance along with everybody else. These kids are condemned to a failing education, which means they will not have the skills to enter the job market, they will not have the education to leave those schools and go on to further their education, and they will not qualify for that. The statistics in DC are appalling. We had the former superintendent of public schools in Milwaukee testify before my Subcommittee, and he said, ``Believe me, Senator, I have tried every initiative known to mankind to reform the public schools in Milwaukee.'' He said, ``I am dedicated and committed to public education, and I have tried everything, everything you can think of, and a lot of things you never thought of, every idea that came to me, to try to shake that system and change that system, and nothing worked except vouchers. Nothing worked except Choice.'' And when we put the Choice program in place in Milwaukee, suddenly, the schools said, ``Hey, we had better get our act together, or we are going to lose our jobs; we had better get our act together, or we are going to have to close this school down; we had better get our act together because all the parents and kids are opting out of the system.'' Well, that is the American way; that is the free enterprise system. What kind of cars would we drive if we only had one car company that we could purchase our cars from? It would just be a mediocre, run-of-the-mill, average--kind of the car equivalent of the education system described by the blue ribbon panel in 1984--``Mediocrity in Education.'' America, with all of our wealth, with all of our capacity, it is shameful that we have an education system, a public education system, particularly in our urban areas. Now, as I said if you live in a suburban area, and if you have the income, and you do not like the education system you are in, and you have the income to pay for a private education, you can do so--but tell a single mother that in DC. Tell a low-income family that in DC. They will say, ``Are you kidding? I can hardly get the rent paid by the end of the month and get the phone bill paid and clothes on the kids and shoes on their feet in order to get them to school. You are talking about me coming up with money to get them out of this school and send them to a private school? There is no way I can afford that.'' They are the only ones who do not have the option, and that is what we are trying to do with the education program. So we have these three components. We are united as a Renewal Alliance; I am excited about it. We incorporate the wisdom and the resources of America's private, primarily faith-based institutions to solve the problems of the urban poor. We have had 30 years of experiment the other way. It is time to try a new alternative. We have some very hopeful stories that give us real cause for rejoicing and hope, that maybe we have found a way in which we can make a difference in people's lives and make a difference in the community. Gospel Rescue Mission is one of the prime examples. It opened my eyes to the kind of transformation that can take place where everybody else failed, where all the government programs, over and over and over failed. Suddenly, I walked into this most inspiring place in Washington, DC and literally saw transformed lives, people who are becoming productive citizens, reaching back to their families where there had been broken relationships before, earning gainful employment, moving from homelessness to home ownership, moving from civic irresponsibility to civic responsibility, making contributions to their communities. These are the examples that we need to emulate. These are the examples that we need to expand and nurture and let them grow so that they can begin to address some of these most difficult problems. I have spoken longer than I ever intended. As you can tell, I get all worked up when I get into this subject. I have examples galore, and I just want to finish by commending you for, one, your interest, two, your vision, three, your passion in pursuing that vision, and four, your commitment to work with all of us in addressing the problems right here, where we live. People say maybe the Federal Government should not be involved in Texas or Kansas or Indiana or wherever, but we have a responsibility for this city. This is a Federal City. It is our Capital City. We have a responsibility here to try to reach out and solve some of these problems, and through your Subcommittee and through your work with our Renewal Alliance and other efforts, you are doing that, so I really commend you for it, and I thank you for this chance to testify. Senator Brownback. Thank you very much, Senator Coats, for the groundbreaking work that you have been doing to get us back, I think, to the right page so that we can really reach out and touch people and the proper role of government and the proper role of charity. You have tried to bring that balance to it, and you have really set the model and set the template for a lot of us in looking to do these sorts of things. We heard an excellent panel of witnesses prior to your testimony about faith-based charities and what they are doing in Washington, DC, the good things they are already doing, and the much larger things they could do if they were free from some of the bureaucracy, which is part of the Renewal Alliance's agenda as well. One thing that has been striking to me is that Members have, I think, an extraordinary opportunity to reach out and see these charities grow and flourish by the actions that we take privately. In your years in the U.S. Senate and you work with Big Brothers, Big Sisters and the work that you have done with a number of different charities, what is your advice to Members? Do you suggest they pick a charity or two and do not do any publicity about it, or do you suggest they pick 10 and try to help all of them? How should Members live that example in working with these charities? Senator Coats. Well, I think the first thing Members can do is get outside of these buildings. You do not have to go very far. You do not have to climb on an airplane and fly somewhere to understand--one, the problem, and two, the solution. Gospel Rescue Mission is only five or so blocks away, and on the way, you can stop at the Federal homeless center, and you can compare the two, the Federal effort versus the private effort. That is true for any number of initiatives. It is great to have hearings, and it is great to have witnesses come in, and it is great to read publications like we put out with our Renewal Alliance, but there is nothing that can begin to compare with getting out of our comfort zone, out of our bubble here on Capitol Hill, and getting out into the real world--Southeast Washington, Northeast Washington are not that far away--getting into the real world, seeing what the real problems are, talking to the people who are in the trenches day after day after day, the foot soldiers of hope and renewal, and examining what they are doing, looking at their programs, measuring their success, and asking how can we help. And there are numerous ways that we can do that, whether it is getting involved exclusively with one or whether it is trying to promote a broader agenda, whether it is personally volunteering or simply bringing a colleague by to say, ``You know, you ought to look at what is taking place here.'' That is how ideas begin to ferment and begin to take root, and from that, numerous initiatives will come to mind or be suggested to us in terms of how we can help. Dr. Eyring has a vision in terms of utilization of now unused school properties and facilities that can be a central place where a lot of these services can be provided, where schools can be established, or charter schools can come in and flourish, where you can provide these services. Because of declining student population, there is a lot of infrastructure available in Washington, DC. How can we help in terms of transferring that over or making it available? Dr. Eyring probably told you about the Fulton House of Hope where Gospel Rescue Mission is attempting to develop for women the same kinds of programs that they now have for men; right around the corner. They were able to acquire that property through the Weed and Seed Program, and they went through all kinds of bureaucratic hurdles to do that, but that property is now theirs and, thanks to some start-up money and some seed money, that is going to be developed into a duplicate of what is done at Gospel Rescue Mission for men, but for women. I only heard about that because I got off the Hill and, in trying to investigate how we deal with crack cocaine, visited The Haven, which is one of the Gospel Rescue Mission programs. It opened my eyes in a way that no hearing, no piece of paper, no story in The Washington Post could begin to open my eyes, because sitting next to me were some of the most miraculous transformations of the human spirit that I had ever witnessed in my life, anywhere. And I said to myself if this individual-- when you hear about the background of some of these people, you think, there is just no way, there is no way this person that I am now talking to could have been that person that they told me they used to be--and you say here is something that works, and we would be foolish not to try to find out why it works, and how can we help it work for others, how can we assist this organizations in doing more of what they are doing. That means getting off the Hill. But when you see that, all kinds of possibilities open up in terms of how we can be involved legislatively, through holding hearings, through spreading the good news, through setting up demonstration programs, through targeting tax credits, through helping deal with regulations and bureaucracy in order to allow them to do more of what they are doing, to help solicit other donors, to help with their fundraisers. There are innumerable ways in which they can do it. Leave here, and go down and take a look, and I think you are planning on doing just that. So that is a must recommendation. Senator Brownback. Good. Senator, thank you very much for your leadership, and I look forward to working with you for years to come on many of these issues. Senator Coats. Absolutely. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Brownback. Thank you very much. Our next panel will include April Lassiter, president of The Initiative for Children Foundation, and Joe Loconte, deputy editor of Policy Review, The Journal of American Citizenship. April, let us start with your testimony. TESTIMONY OF APRIL LASSITER,\1\ PRESIDENT, THE INITIATIVE FOR CHILDREN FOUNDATION Ms. Lassiter. Thank you very much for having me speak here today. My name is April Lassiter, and I am president of The Initiative for Children Foundation. We are a nonprofit organization dedicated to ending childhood poverty and despair through the research and replication of best practices in the private sector. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Ms. Lassiter appears in the Appendix on page 55. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am also the author of the book, ``Congress and Civil Society: How Legislators can Champion Civil Renewal in Their Districts,'' which was funded by the Bradley Foundation and published by The Heritage Foundation.\2\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ The book referred to above, ``Congress and Civil Society: How Legislators can Champion Civil Renewal in Their Districts,'' is retained in the files of the Subcommittee. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The book that I worked on, ``Congress and Civil Society,'' outlines several ways that Members of Congress can use their bully pulpits to renew civil society in America, and I am very encouraged to see that you have decided to hold these hearings today and that Senator Coats obviously also embraces this expanded vision of leadership. I am inserting a copy of the book for the record in the hope that more Members of Congress will also embrace this vigorous civic activism and leadership in their districts and States. I want to commend Chairman Brownback for holding this hearing today and also his staff, for doing such a great job of getting a very wonderful panel from the District of Columbia to talk about the important work that they do. I think the need for public leadership in promoting effective compassion for the poor and needy in the District of Columbia cannot be overstated. By definition, too many legislators have focused on legislative remedies to address problems that cannot be addressed by bills or rhetoric that emanate from Washington, DC. Today's hearing on the role of faith-based charities is an excellent example of how public leaders can highlight what is working here in the Nation's Capital to reach the poor and the needy, and how these successful efforts can then be replicated in other places around the country and translated into good public policy. We need more hearings like this to hear the success stories of civic efforts, faith-based groups and corporate programs and policies that are moving the poor and the needy toward self-sufficiency. The book that I have submitted for the record outlines ways in which Members of Congress can use their bully pulpits to rebuild the civic infrastructure in America. Every Member of Congress, Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Conservative, can embrace this vision for leadership and take a proactive role in facilitating effective charitable efforts that should be a cornerstone of public service. Members of Congress, as you know, have extraordinary power to recognize and recruit untapped social and financial capital to individuals, charitable groups and corporations whose efforts are effective. To put this hearing in historical context, I would like to make a few comments about the state of the nonprofit sector in 1998. In the early part of this century, the nonprofit sector was primarily responsible for serving the poor and the needy. As government programs began to take over the role of charities, with the institution of the New Deal and again with the Great Society programs under President Johnson, the private sector increasingly abdicated its charitable role for the poor. The unfortunate result has been, as we have heard today, that even with the Federal expenditure of $5 trillion in welfare services and even with the state of charitable giving in the private sector remaining relatively constant, the poverty rate for children rose from 14 percent in 1968 to 23 percent in 1993. In fact, the Great Society programs have paralleled startling increases in poverty, family breakdown, illegitimacy, and other social ills that directly impact the lives of children and their families. One social scientist had the foresight to warn against an over-reliance on government charities. In 1821, Josiah Quincy, chairman of the Massachusetts Committee on Pauper Laws, warned that subsidies might fail the poor because they would not help the truly needy enough and might discourage industry on the part of those who are able to become self-sufficient. The failure of government programs to help the poor and the needy to become self-sufficient is well-documented. The facts bear out that even the most well-intentioned government programs cannot serve as surrogates for intact families or strong religious and civic institutions. I know you will be hearing from Mr. Loconte later about effective compassion. The welfare reform that the American people embrace, that we passed in the 104th Congress, was a new system of personal and local civic initiatives that more effectively eradicate social ills, not a desire to see compassion played out on a human level. In order to address these problems of poverty and despair at their root, policymakers must not only devolve decisionmaking power and resources to the local level, but they should supplement the safety net by becoming part of the rebuilding of the civic infrastructure with effective empowerment strategies. Fortunately, efforts are being made to recognize effective empowerment strategies, and I have written about many of them in my book. Today's hearing, though, focuses on successful faith-based organizations in the District of Columbia. In contrast to custodial programs, which simply provide financial subsidies to the poor, the effective charitable efforts I have studied are often need-based, personal, challenging, possess a high degree of accountability for their resources, and track their progress on a systematic and regular basis. Faith-based efforts also include a spiritual or values-based foundation. Some skeptics have cast doubt on faith-based groups because of a facile assumption that only experts with degrees and letters after their names are qualified to help the poor and the needy. My own view is that we should let the record speak for itself. For instance, some studies show that faith-based groups like Victory Fellowship and Teen Challenge are especially effective in drug and alcohol rehabilitation, often at a fraction of the cost of State programs. Victory Fellowship boasts a recovery rate as high as 70 percent for its participants. In addition, the National Institute for Drug Abuse conducted a government-funded study which showed that 86 percent of Teen Challenge graduates were drug-free after 7 years. According to Teen Challenge, many government-funded and non-faith-based rehab programs have a success rate under 5 percent. We cannot afford to walk away from faith-based groups that are successfully transforming the lives of children and families, giving them the direction, hope and accountability they need to become productive members of society. We should let these groups rest on their successes and encourage their replication rather than discouraging them through barriers and regulations that the Federal Government or State governments impose, or allowing a few skeptics to disqualify them. As Members of Congress, you can help recognize the work of faith-based groups, and my hope is that you will go back home and hold hearings like this in your district and State. We need Members of Congress to highlight the work of groups like those we have heard from today, and The Fishing School here in Northeast Washington, run by ex-cop Tom Lewis, who provides a safe haven in a crack-infested neighborhoods, where kids get tutoring, mentoring and Bible study. We should also replicate civic initiative that have track records of success here in the District of Columbia and around the country. I am submitting several other examples of civic and faith- based initiatives for the record. Finally, Members of Congress should also encourage corporate efforts to help the poor and the needy. Many businesses have reached into their own pockets and recruited support from citizens and private groups to reach out to them. It occurred to me listening to the witnesses this morning that we should get some of the corporations that reside here in the District to adopt these charities and help them negotiate their needs. I am also submitting several examples of corporations like Wendy's, Subway, and Bayer Corporation that have effectively reached into their communities. Some Members of Congress are already making great strides toward encouraging these good efforts. I commend Chairman Brownback for his work toward these efforts. You have taken your time to travel around the State of Kansas to visit these centers of effective compassion, to learn what works and to help raise their visibility. I hope that more Members will follow your example. I believe the future of our country depends on the extent to which we take personal responsibility for ourselves, our families and our communities. Government is not inherently evil; rather, government cannot do the work of strong families, civic groups, voluntary associations or corporations who are providing family-friendly workplaces. What we need today is education on what works. We need smarter government, government that operates on sound research rather than political fights about who cares more about the poor and the needy or about the children. We need, quite simply, a spiritual and civic renewal in America. Nothing short of this will address the challenges that children and families face today. This is the work to which The Initiative for Children Foundation has dedicated itself--identifying and promoting the replication of best practices on critical children's issues. The need for public leadership is nowhere more evidence than in our Nation's Capital, the center of power of the free world, and yet a prison of poverty and despair for so many children and families. I truly believe that by building these private efforts, these faith-based groups and civic groups, we will not only sharpen the way the public, the media and policymakers evaluate compassion in America, but also improve the welfare of American children and families. I thank you again, Mr. Chairman, for inviting me to speak today, and I want to commend you for your work on these efforts. Senator Brownback. Thank you very much for being here, Ms. Lassiter, for your book, and for your encouragement and your identification of what Members can do, which I think is something that is important for us to talk about, what each of us can reach and do ourselves, and your book was very good about doing that. Ms. Lassiter. Thank you. Senator Brownback. Mr. Loconte, thank you for joining us today, and the floor is yours. TESTIMONY OF JOE LOCONTE,\1\ DEPUTY EDITOR, POLICY REVIEW MAGAZINE, THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION Mr. Loconte. Thank you, Senator. I want to thank the Senator for his leadership on this issue of the role of the faith community in addressing Washington's social problems. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Loconte appears in the Appendix on page 68. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am Joe Loconte, with Policy Review Magazine, published by The Heritage Foundation. I also authored a book called ``Seducing the Samaritan: How Government Contracts are Reshaping Social Services.'' \2\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ The book referred to above, ``Seducing the Samaritan: How Government Contracts are Reshaping Social Services,'' is retained in the files of the Subcommittee. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think perhaps the most important message of today's hearing is that here in Washington, in the shadow of the failed Federal welfare bureaucracy, are private charities pointing the way toward personal transformation and urban renewal--right here in the belly of the beast. The groups that have testified today are indeed a rebuke to the liberal government approach to combating social ills. I do not intend that as a partisan statement. They really are a rebuke. Unlike most Federal programs, these charities deal in what author Marvin O'Lasky calls ``effective compassion, compassion that is personal, challenging and spiritual.'' They personalize care by treating the whole person, each with a distinct set of strengths and weaknesses, rather than forcing people into one-size-fits-all programs, and we heard some compelling testimony to that effect. They are challenging in the sense that they summon people to virtue, not to vice, and they are spiritual in that they emphasize the religious dimension to life, the idea that men and women are made in God's image, and that their deepest needs are bound up in their relationship with their creator. Last year, a White House aide told The New Yorker Magazine--not a bastion of conservative thought--``I do not know if we have reached this point because these programs have succeeded or because everything else has failed, but this certainly seems to be the hot social policy topic these days.'' The aide almost got it right--it is for both reasons. The success of these and other charities is not only getting more media and political attention, it is creating healthy partnerships with government agencies, which is encouraging. But it is also lending weight to the idea in some places that government should bankroll these charities, which ought to make us tremble--and here, I am not talking about tax credits, which I think really have value and merit, but rather, direct government funding through contracts and other forms of direct funding, the way government has done social service provision over the last 25 years. So with the remainder of my time, I want to issue a warning to private charities that might consider drinking deeply at the government well in order to expand their programs. In the book that I wrote, Seducing the Samaritan, I talked to people in the trenches of social outreach, leaders from about two dozen or so human service agencies, most of them heavily dependent on government grants and contracts. Charity leaders, I found, when they are candid, admit that their dependence on the State makes for an unhealthy relationship. Government support easily leads to government intrusion and, ultimately, coercion. My research suggests that given the chance, government will remake providers in its own bureaucratic image, and I am just going to talk about two ways in which this happens. First, government funding causes what you might call ``organizational mission creep.'' This, of course, was the phrase used to describe the shift in U.S. objectives of the Marines in Somalia. For private agencies on the public dole, it means bending their agendas to secure State and Federal contracts. ``It becomes almost like heroin,'' says a nonprofit veteran, Ed Gotgart. ``You build your program around this assumption that you cannot survive without government money.'' The problem with mission creep is that it allows distant politicians and government bureaucrats, rather than the front- line workers, to define an agency's objective. ``Most everyone is fighting for every penny they can get,'' says Jacquelin Triston of the Salvation Army. ``If you cannot do it the way you want, then you will take your program and fit it into what government will give you money for,'' she told me. The second point--government support focuses on delivering services and not results. Every year, for example, States pump millions of dollars into substance abuse programs, with little idea of whether they are curing or perpetuating addiction. Although the Massachusetts Bureau of Substance Abuse employs a staff of 40 just to manage the social service contracts, no one, not a single person, evaluates program effectiveness or, as the Bureau's program manager put it to me: ``We do not do longitudinal outcome studies.'' The result is a system that too often dispenses assistance with no strings attached, that is, without discernment. Boston's Pine Street Inn, for example, provides food and housing to nearly 1,000 homeless people each day, but the shelter, mostly dependent on HUD grants, places no work or education requirements on its residents. Even the ``no drinking'' rule is somewhat qualified. Some residents walk a few yards from the shelter to a ``wet park''--a place where they can drink alcohol unmolested all day long--and return in the evening, no questions asked. Beth Kidd believes that that is the wrong way to offer help. A 25-year veteran in neighborhood nursing, Kidd runs a small, privately-funded, Christian-based shelter in the heart of Boston. This is what she told me: ``People who are substance abusers who have been out on the street for years, they have learned how to survive. What they have learned from the system is they can make the social worker jump. And what they need is moral and spiritual challenge, not milktoast charity.'' This is the kind of assistance that faith-based providers offer--compassion that is both tough-minded and tender-hearted. Compassion that suffers with is compassion that is personal, challenging and spiritual. But government compassion, as Martin O'Lasky puts it, ``It is too cheap. It is bureaucratic and impersonal. It refuses to challenge or engage the needy in the moral issues that envelope their lives. It ignores ultimate outcomes in people's lives, and it often drives religious expression underground.'' Sociologist Peter Berger of Boston University warns of the compromising embrace of the modern secular State. ``He who dines with the devil,'' he says, ``had better have a long spoon.'' If charities serving the needy in our communities are to continue to be effective in lifting the poor out of poverty, they should work collaboratively with government; but when it comes to government funding and oversight, they will need longer, not shorter, spoons. Thank you, sir, for your time. Senator Brownback. Mr. Loconte, do you have specific recommendations of what you are speaking about, because what you say makes some sense to me. Even on my charity tour that I went on and some of the charities that I have visited with, as we are going into this phase where the government is not going to deliver the service, but the government is going to fund the service and then have a private, not-for-profit actually deliver the service, you could see people becoming excited about this huge pool of resources that they were getting. They had not fathomed this much money ever coming to their not-for- profit organization. But you could also see that the ``golden rule'' could well come into play--he who controls the gold rules--that there would be that change. Do you see thing that we can require or change within government that would not cause these charities to lose their primary mission along with taking the government funds? Mr. Loconte. I make some recommendations in my book which I will enter in the record, and I will bring that in. It is interesting--I had a conversation with the No. 2 or 3 person in Catholic Charities in Boston, Joseph Doolin, of the Archdiocese in Boston. Catholic Charities probably gets 65 percent or so of its money from government contracts. And Joseph Doolin told me that any relationship ultimately seems to become a dominant relationship with government--and they are very pro, of course, government funding. But his confession was that any relationship will ultimately become a dominant relationship. Some of the things that Senator Coats has initiated make a lot of sense to me. I think the problem is that the more direct the relationship is between government and the providers, the more dangerous it is, the more direct the funding is and the regulatory oversight is. So I think you have to take the problem as kind of two sides of the same coin. You have got to deal with the government purse, and you have got to deal with the government pen, or the regulatory problem. Part of the way you deal with the regulatory problem, I think, is you figure out what sort of oversight can be delegated to nongovernmental private agencies--whether this is in the foster care system or other types of social services, I think there are ways in which we can fairly and reasonably and responsibly delegate some of those responsibilities for oversight to nongovernmental institutions. We need to figure out ways to do more of that. On the funding end, the most indirect way of getting more public resources into the hands of private charities is going to be the smartest. So whether it is a charity tax credit or something like a charity tax credit, that makes the most sense to me. The more direct that assistance is, the more likely, of course--and there is a responsibility on the part of lawmakers to track that money, to see how it is spent, to require the sort of documentation that goes on so that they can be responsible to their voters, to their constituents, that their money is being spent wisely. It is the nature, of course, of government funding--it inherently requires oversight. So the more indirect we make that funding, the better we are going to be. Senator Brownback. The credits within the tax form would seem to be the purest, cleanest shot, as you noted. Do you see individual steps or other steps that are like that one that would make for a good indirect funding route versus what I am seeing develop, which is a lot of governmental agencies funding private groups to do what the government used to do and then saying, ``OK, but you are going to have to do it this way,'' similar in many respects to how we treat a lot of State governments--we have this money for you, but to get this money, you have got to jump through these five hoops and do it the way we want you to do it, and then we will give you the money, which then dictates how it is done. Do you see other indirect means that government can deliver the funds, other than the tax credit? Mr. Loconte. I have not heard better scenarios than that one. That is the kind of thing you like to see for some set period of time. The other sort of arrangements that you are to direct--you could perhaps sanction for a very limited time--some sort of grants that phase out over a period--but then you just raise the same political risk that once you establish a program, you have a natural constituency, and it goes on forever and ever, as you know. I have not heard a better alternative, though, than the tax credit. Senator Brownback. Ms. Lassiter, as far as what you have suggested, can you think of anything else Members should be doing to educate the public about what works? You mentioned holding hearings in individual Members' districts. What else have you seen as being particularly effective in raising the visibility and the information that people have about these private, effective charitable works? Ms. Lassiter. I think the first thing that needs to happen is that Members of Congress need to develop a more critical protocol for deciding which kinds of groups they promote. As Mr. Loconte has mentioned, we have no longitudinal outcomes studies, and one thing that policymakers can do here on the Hill is to begin to critically evaluate the efficacy of programs, both public and private, to see what is working. Once you identify those programs, I have seen a lot of innovative strategies for raising the visibility of these effective groups. Site visits, as Senator Coats mentioned--and you have also made site visits to these groups--raises their visibility, and it also allows these charities to bend your ear about what their needs are, and you can find out how you might be able to, as a public leader, recruit social or financial capital that they might need, or be a part of problem-solving. Some Members hold awards ceremonies in their districts where they have their staff and other people in the district nominate heroes, everyday people who have overcome great odds or are doing a lot with little resources, and that has served to recognize many of these groups. A couple of very impressive effort that I have seen were by Senator Santorum and Representative Talent. They have actually restructured their district offices to make them in effect centers of charitable activity. They have set up a system by which, when constituents call in for help, they are actually referred back to a private organization in the district that can meet their needs. Traditionally, as you know, and when I worked on the Hill, what I saw, is that most Members refer their constituents to government agencies or reference legislation, so it is a much more proactive role in solving problems on the local level. Another very interesting example is that Representative Pitts created last fall something called the Hope Summit, where he gathered approximately 200 nonprofit organizations in his area to hear panels on everything from fundraising to evaluating outcomes, and their groups also allowed them a chance to network with leaders in the community and talk to other people to hear about how they were negotiating their way to becoming effective charities. Finally, there have been some coalitions on the Hill, including the Renewal Alliance which we have already heard about today, just doing the good work of removing regulations and barriers that exist on a Federal level, as well as providing tax incentives. There have also been two efforts on the part of Members, and I think you have also been involved with this, Mr. Chairman. The House that Congress Built was a partnership between Members of Congress and Habitat for Humanity. Several Members gathered last June to build a house here in the District and took that back home and replicated it in their districts. In addition, the National Fatherhood Initiative has worked with Members of Congress to create the National Fatherhood Promotion Task Force, and they have done a wonderful job of raising the visibility of the problem of fatherlessness in the home. We really are raising a generation home alone, as 50 percent of children are growing up in broken families. On June 15, the National Fatherhood Promotion Task Force will join the National Fatherhood Initiative to put on a forum to further raise the visibility of, I think, probably the most threatening issue to children today. Senator Brownback. Those are great suggestions. I am writing them down. Ms. Lassiter. If I could, I would have two other suggestions on regulations and barriers that have begun to be addressed but need some more leadership in Congress. One is prohibition on voluntarism. As you may know, the Federal Labor Standards Act prevents fire-fighters from volunteering in the communities where they work, for fear that they may in some way be coerced into working overtime. In fact, what this does is keep some of the best people we have protecting us from fires and other disasters from being able to apply their resources and talents in a charitable way. There has been some legislation introduced by Representatives Bateman and Myrick and Senator Warner, but I think that is an issue that deserves a lot of attention. The other issue that has not been addressed legislatively was brought to my attention by Dick Drake, who is director of Good Samaritan Helping Hand. That issue is that the IRS has ruled that charitable organizations which require work for charitable services must provide benefits for those people just as if they were employees. In other words, the IRS has said that if you require work in return for charity, they deem that relationship between the charity and the recipient an employer- employee relationship, which is unfortunately preventing some charities, which believe that some of the good work they do is governed by the requirement of requiring something in return for charity, from being able to do more of that work. That is something that I think might be a good legislative issue. Senator Brownback. Those are good suggestions and good examples. I thank both of you for coming today and being part of this panel and also for giving us the specific suggestions that you have. Those will be very useful for us. I will note that the record will remain open for 3 days if people have additional testimony or inserts that they would like to put into the record. With that, the hearing is adjourned. [Whereupon, at 5:10 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.] A P P E N D I X ---------- PREPARED STATEMENT OF HON. KAY GRANGER, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS Thank you very much, Chairman Brownback. It is my great privilege to speak out on behalf of private solutions to public problems. I have always believed that America is a place where every day ordinary people do extraordinary things. Americans know that serving their brothers and sisters is an invaluable effort that cannot be measured in dollars and cents, in hours volunteered, or even in new programs started. But it can be measured in lives changed, commitment begun, and hope given. America is a great Nation filled with good people--people who understand the importance of doing well by doing good. There are many troubling problems facing our Nation. And at the core of these problems is the decline of our families. I believe the most endangered species in America today is the family. If anyone still has doubts, consider this: One out of every two marriages ends in divorce. Two thirds of all African-American children are raised in a single parent home. And perhaps most troubling, in the past 4 years, teenage drug use has more than doubled. There is not a family I know that has not been touched by troubled times. There's no doubt--we live in times of need. Yes, we live in a world of hurt. But I don't believe that the crisis of modern American society is insurmountable. And I don't believe our tools to combat this decline are insignificant. On the contrary, I believe our Nation is facing a challenge, not a crisis. And America has always responded to challenges. The problems facing our Nation will not go away in days, weeks, or years. But they will go away, if we all work together as families, neighborhoods, and communities, in the spirit of citizenship--in the spirit of America. I want to spend the next few moments outlining for you what I believe to be the keys to restoring our communities and our families. We can see some of these tools in some very encouraging statistics: More than 90 million Americans spend some amount of time volunteering for some organization each year. Volunteering is important. Churches are reporting high attendance and increased contributions and tithes. Churches are important. And each year we see the establishment of new community foundations, women's shelters, and food pantries. Charity and faith-based institutions are important. Volunteerism is becoming more than just a catchy cliche--it is literally an American tradition we are determined to protect. Let me give you some examples from my hometown. In Fort Worth, Texas, Trinity Valley School has started requiring each one of their students to complete volunteer work as well as course work. And in so doing, this outstanding school is proving that education should be about more than just learning to how to make money someday. It should also be about learning how to live with other human beings. When I was mayor of Fort Worth, we began a program called ``Our City Our Children.'' This program was designed to involve the entire community in the lives of our children. ``Our City Our Children'' encouraged businesses to donate computers for classrooms and businessmen to donate their time to Little League. This program provided private solutions to the very public problem of helping at- risk children. These examples demonstrate that America is special not because we have big government but rather because we have great people. Too often we look to Washington for help. Too seldom do we look to help ourselves. The American people have the ability and the faith to make our Nation safer and stronger, healthier and happier. If only we give Americans the freedom to renew America. By working together, we can save our Nation--one community at a time, one family at a time, and one child at a time. Thank you very much. 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