<DOC> [109th Congress House Hearings] [From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access] [DOCID: f:24251.wais] HURRICANE KATRINA: ASSESSING THE PRESENT ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS ======================================================================= HEARING before the SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS of the COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION __________ SEPTEMBER 29, 2005 __________ Serial No. 109-77 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on Energy and Commerce Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/ house U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON: 2005 24-251PDF For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512-1800 Fax: (202) 512-2250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402-0001 COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE JOE BARTON, Texas, Chairman RALPH M. HALL, Texas JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan MICHAEL BILIRAKIS, Florida Ranking Member Vice Chairman HENRY A. WAXMAN, California FRED UPTON, Michigan EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts CLIFF STEARNS, Florida RICK BOUCHER, Virginia PAUL E. GILLMOR, Ohio EDOLPHUS TOWNS, New York NATHAN DEAL, Georgia FRANK PALLONE, Jr., New Jersey ED WHITFIELD, Kentucky SHERROD BROWN, Ohio CHARLIE NORWOOD, Georgia BART GORDON, Tennessee BARBARA CUBIN, Wyoming BOBBY L. RUSH, Illinois JOHN SHIMKUS, Illinois ANNA G. ESHOO, California HEATHER WILSON, New Mexico BART STUPAK, Michigan JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York CHARLES W. ``CHIP'' PICKERING, ALBERT R. WYNN, Maryland Mississippi, Vice Chairman GENE GREEN, Texas VITO FOSSELLA, New York TED STRICKLAND, Ohio ROY BLUNT, Missouri DIANA DeGETTE, Colorado STEVE BUYER, Indiana LOIS CAPPS, California GEORGE RADANOVICH, California MIKE DOYLE, Pennsylvania CHARLES F. BASS, New Hampshire TOM ALLEN, Maine JOSEPH R. PITTS, Pennsylvania JIM DAVIS, Florida MARY BONO, California JAN SCHAKOWSKY, Illinois GREG WALDEN, Oregon HILDA L. SOLIS, California LEE TERRY, Nebraska CHARLES A. GONZALEZ, Texas MIKE FERGUSON, New Jersey JAY INSLEE, Washington MIKE ROGERS, Michigan TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin C.L. ``BUTCH'' OTTER, Idaho MIKE ROSS, Arkansas SUE MYRICK, North Carolina JOHN SULLIVAN, Oklahoma TIM MURPHY, Pennsylvania MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee Bud Albright, Staff Director David Cavicke, Deputy Staff Director and General Counsel Reid P.F. Stuntz, Minority Staff Director and Chief Counsel ______ Subcommittee on Environment and Hazardous Materials PAUL E. GILLMOR, Ohio, Chairman RALPH M. HALL, Texas HILDA L. SOLIS, California NATHAN DEAL, Georgia Ranking Member HEATHER WILSON, New Mexico FRANK PALLONE, Jr., New Jersey JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona BART STUPAK, Michigan VITO FOSSELLA, New York ALBERT R. WYNN, Maryland CHARLES F. BASS, New Hampshire LOIS CAPPS, California JOSEPH R. PITTS, Pennsylvania MIKE DOYLE, Pennsylvania MARY BONO, California TOM ALLEN, Maine LEE TERRY, Nebraska JAN SCHAKOWSKY, Illinois MIKE ROGERS, Michigan JAY INSLEE, Washington C.L. ``BUTCH'' OTTER, Idaho GENE GREEN, Texas SUE MYRICK North Carolina CHARLES A. GONZALEZ, Texas JOHN SULLIVAN, Oklahoma TAMMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin TIM MURPHY, Pennsylvania JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan, JOE BARTON, Texas, (Ex Officio) (Ex Officio) (ii) C O N T E N T S __________ Page Testimony of: Falk, Henry, Director, National Center for Environmental Health and Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Department of Health and Human Services.................... 14 Gautreaux, Karen K., Deputy Secretary, Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality................................... 37 Olson, Erik D., Senior Attorney, Natural Resources Defense Council.................................................... 86 Peacock, Hon. Marcus C., Deputy Administrator, Environmental Protection Agency.......................................... 8 Ragone, Stephen E., Director of Science and Technology, accompanied by John H. Schnieders, Member, National Ground Water Association.......................................... 79 Rutledge, William, Mayor, City of Pontotoc, on behalf of National Rural Water Association........................... 73 Verchick, Robert R.M., Gauthier-St. Martin Eminent Scholar, Chair in Environmental Law, Loyola University, New Orleans. 105 Woodley, John Paul, Jr., Assistant Secretary of the Army Civil Works, Department of the Army........................ 22 Wright, Beverly, Executive Director, Xavier University of Louisiana, Deep South Center for Environmental Justice..... 95 Additional Material Submitted for the Record: Falk, Henry: Written response to questions from Hon. Paul E. Gillmor...... 196 Written response to questions from Hon. John D. Dingell...... 202 Gautreaux, Karen K.: Written response to questions from Hon. Paul E. Gillmor...... 203 Peacock, Hon. Marcus C.: Written response to questions from Hon. Paul E. Gillmor...... 210 Written response to questions from Hon. John D. Dingell...... 215 Written response to questions from Hon. Tammy Baldwin........ 220 Olson, Erik D.: Written response to questions from Hon. Paul E. Gillmor...... 221 Ragone, Stephen E.: Written response to questions from Hon. Paul E. Gillmor...... 231 Verchick, Robert R.M.: Written response to questions from Hon. Paul E. Gillmor...... 235 Woodley, John Paul, Jr.: Written response to questions from Hon. Paul E. Gillmor...... 239 Written response to questions from Hon. John D. Dingell...... 244 (iii) HURRICANE KATRINA: ASSESSING THE PRESENT ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS ---------- THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2005 House of Representatives, Committee on Energy and Commerce, Subcommittee on Environment and Hazardous Materials, Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 1:40 p.m., in room 2123 of the Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Paul Gillmore (chairman) presiding. Members present: Representatives Gillmor, Hall, Deal, Bass, Murphy, Barton (ex officio), Solis, Wynn, Capps, Allen, and Green. Staff present: Mark Menezes, chief counsel for energy and environment; Tom Hassenboehler, majority counsel; Nandan Kenkeremath, majority counsel; Jerry Couri, policy coordinator; Peter Kielty, clerk; and Dick Frandsen, minority senior counsel. Mr. Gillmor. The committee will come to order, and I will recognize myself for the purpose of an opening statement. One month ago, Mother Nature forcefully and violently visited the Gulf Coast of our country in the form of Hurricane Katrina. This storm caused widespread flooding and significant property and infrastructure damage in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. In the process, the storm caused public health and environmental problems for the residents that live and work in that region. Katrina may well have been the largest single environmental disaster that our country has ever faced. We would like to learn the extent of the environmental damage, how long it will take to restore that environment, and even to what extent it is possible to do so. We are still close in time to the disaster, and at this stage, I do not expect that it will be possible to have complete answers to those questions. And also, as I made it clear when I called this hearing, I did not want to pull anyone out of the field who is participating in the cleanup or actively involved in these efforts, but as people began to wade back into the Gulf Coast to recover from this catastrophe, several reports have variously characterized the state of the environment in the areas damaged by Hurricane Katrina, and hopefully, this hearing can help to distinguish between the rumors and the facts concerning the status and the safety of the water and soil along the Gulf Coast, and what is being done currently to address the situation by public and private sources. In the past, our subcommittee has explored issues that have general importance to environmental protection. The matters that we examine today, I think, are clearly the most significant and urgent since our committee, in the wake of September 11, helped establish Federal anti-terrorism provisions for drinking water utilities in Title IV of the Public Health, Security, and Bio-Terrorism Preparedness and Response Act. That work, which became law 3 years ago, was bipartisan, and I believe that should serve to instruct all of us that Hurricane Katrina, like the terrorists piloting those planes, did not sort out their victims by political party. We are concerned about one thing, getting help to the people impacted by the storm, and this hearing isn't a forum for pointing fingers. I don't think it matters to the thousands of people who no longer call New Orleans or Bay St. Louis their home where blame lies. Now, I recognize a total understanding of what has happened in these communities, and all the needs to be met to remedy the environmental problems will take more time, and that is going to require significant future oversight. I want to thank our witnesses, who have taken time to be with us today. Each of your expert testimony is valuable to us in understanding the situation as it is now, not as how it may have been portrayed. And I especially want to thank our witnesses from Louisiana and Mississippi, who have made themselves available, whether in person or via the teleconference arrangement we have, to give firsthand accounts, and put a face on the real problems of people that are facing in this area. You not only have our thanks, but also, our best wishes, as you return to your work in reconstructing a vital part of our Nation. That concludes my opening statement, and I would like to yield 5 minutes to the gentlelady from California, Ms. Solis, for the purpose of an opening statement. Ms. Solis. Thank you, and good afternoon. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Chairman Gillmor, for holding this very important hearing today on the environmental impact of Hurricane Katrina. I also want to thank the panelists that are here, and all the witnesses that will be speaking. I know this is an item that all of us are deeply, deeply concerned about. We know that Hurricane Katrina was one of the largest natural disasters faced by our country. The Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff recently commented: ``We are going to have to clean probably the greatest environmental mess we have ever seen in this country.'' It left in its wake a range of serious environmental problems, including flooded and contaminated drinking water and multiple oil spills, leaking underground storage tanks, flooded sewage treatment plants, flooded buildings, debris and contaminated sediment, and other sludge. Hurricane Katrina impacted, as we know, more than 1,000 drinking water systems, and 172 sewage treatment plants, and at least 2.4 million people were without access to safe drinking water. Initial testing by EPA found elevated levels of E. coli bacteria and lead levels that exceeded public health standards. Based on the biological and the chemical water testing data, EPA and CDC recommended that the public and emergency responders avoid contact with the floodwaters and the sediment deposited by the flood. In all, though, Hurricane Katrina affected all populations, the hardest hit area was in low income and underrepresented communities. More than 100,000 in New Orleans, mostly poor blacks and Latino residents, were without cars and were stranded. Together with the elderly, disabled, and infirm, they were unable to evacuate themselves. They were the ones who lived in the greatest proximity to the major industrial facilities and toxic waste sites, who suffered most from the injustices of society's failure to consider the cumulative impacts of living and working conditions prior to Hurricane Katrina. These vulnerable communities are suffering tremendously in the wake of this natural disaster. Hurricane Katrina left hundreds of thousands of people without their livelihood and their homes, and in many cases, their dignity. I am concerned about the rush to waive health provisions, safety, environmental, and social protections. This would undercut longstanding health and environmental standards in the name of hurricane recovery. The city's poor and other cities that were affected will pay the price if we weaken those cleanup rules. Cleanup and rebuilding efforts must ensure that the burden of exposure to toxic releases does not fall solely on minority and underrepresented communities. All environmental justice and public health regulations should be met during testing, monitoring, cleanup, recovery, and reconstruction. Federal public health and environmental statutes provide many opportunities to address environmental risks and hazards in these communities. The crisis of this hurricane and other such disasters should not be used to weaken, waive, or roll back current Federal public health and environmental protections. Weakening, waiving, or rolling back Federal public health and environmental protections would further threaten the heavily damaged area of the Gulf Coast, negatively impacting the public health of those already affected communities. The public has a right to know about the cleanup and the rebuilding effort and should be informed and involved in the decisions on cleanup, recovery, and building. Hurricane Katrina should be an opportunity for us here in the Congress to begin the process of writing the wrongs of environmental justice, not an opportunity to guarantee another generation that will live under these current circumstances. Today, I hope we learn more about the ongoing cleanup, and the damage assessments, and about how long-term effects to protect the health of all our communities needs to be taken care of. We have an opportunity to rebuild these communities and the economy in the Gulf region, and as a model of the integrated, diverse, and sustainable society that all Americans deserve. I look forward to hearing from our witnesses, and I personally want to just share briefly that in Los Angeles, we also had some victims come visit us that are staying there. We hope that they will get the attention that they need, and be able to come back to their particular neighborhoods, but many were concerned about cleanup, and what will happen to the waste, to their homes that were destroyed, and to their livelihoods. So I hope that each of you, the panelists, will be able to help us to discern that information. Thank you very much, and I yield back. Mr. Gillmor. The gentleman from Texas. Mr. Hall. Chairman Gillmor, thank you. I want to come from two areas. First, personally, I want to thank each of you who are giving of your time here, not just the time you spend in this room with us, but the time you spent leading up to this, the time you spent preparing, the time you will spend returning to where you go, because we rely on you, folks like you, to give us testimony. You know more about it than we do, and from your information and your knowledge and your skill, we glean information with which we write the rules of the road up here, so you are very valuable to us, your time is valuable, and that is my opening statement. Now, it is likely that the chairman of the Committee on Energy and Commerce, Chairman Joe Barton, may not make this. He several others going underway right now, and he was here until 12:45 last night on the Energy Bill. So if he comes, it will just be special, but he has asked me to go ahead and give you his statement. So thank you, Chairman Gillmor, for holding this very important hearing to assess the present environmental damage and current situation in the Gulf South. Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Rita have devastated the lives of residents in Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Alabama, and Florida, and destroyed parts of our environment on an unprecedented scale. Our hearts go out to all the citizens of these areas whose lives have been forever changed by this horrific tragedy. We are here today to try and put politics aside, and get a real world glimpse at the current state of our environment in these devastated regions. While I realize many of the cleanup efforts are just beginning in New Orleans and in southwest Louisiana and Texas from Hurricane Rita, one thing should be clear. The health and safety of all the citizens of these areas who were displaced and devastated, should have the necessary assistance from the Federal Government to return to their normal lives. As I have said before, I plan on using all the authority I have as chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee to help in any way I can. Having said that, our greatest assets are people. Immediately following Hurricane Katrina, EPA sent teams and equipment down to the area to assess the environmental impact of the storm. Important as their job was to investigate water and air contamination. Many of EPA's personnel and equipment were used to rescue the lives of hundreds of people from certain death. And I want to recognize their courage and self-sacrifice to go beyond their normal duties, to save our citizens in time of extreme danger. Our environment is important, but not as important as the lives of those that live within our environment. I look forward to hearing testimony from all the witnesses today, including EPA, the Corps of Engineers, and the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, and would like to especially recognize Mayor Rutledge from Pontotoc, Mississippi, and Karen Gautreaux, Deputy Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality, joining us by teleconference, who represent areas of the country that have been completely devastated by these storms. Once again, our hearts go out to you and to your citizens in this very difficult time. With that, I yield back on behalf of Chairman Barton, his time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you, Mr. Hall, and let me also ask unanimous consent that all members' statements, after the conclusion of opening statements, be entered into the record. Gentleman, the other gentleman from Texas. Were you next? The gentlelady from California, I apologize. Texans are always trying to be first. Ms. Capps. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and---- Mr. Green. We are also gentlemen, Mr. Chairman, so---- Ms. Capps. I should say, Mr. Green is an ultimate gentleman. Mr. Chairman, I thank you for holding this hearing, and I thank the panel of witnesses, both panels, actually. It is essential that this committee devote whatever time is needed to review what has happened when Hurricane Katrina and Rita, hit the Gulf Coast. The timing of this hearing, however, is unfortunate; in fact, one could say alarming. It would have been appropriate to hold this hearing before yesterday's markup of new energy legislation in the Energy Subcommittee, which under the guise, I would say, of the need to streamline and weaken environmental, health, and safety regulations, to get energy production back online as quickly as possible--I say under the guise of, because it has never been demonstrated that these regulations have interfered with energy production and distribution--but that markup has already occurred with decisions made to relax standards, standards in an area that is clearly impacted by toxic waste spills, all kinds of hazardous materials, that are now strewn throughout the environment in the region that the hurricane impacted. And another committee has already produced legislation, the Resources Committee, that will be presented to the floor in the next several days, that does the same thing. So we see, once again, that the Federal Government's response to this whole situation has been inconsistent at best; nevertheless, here we are today, and this information that will be shared by our witnesses is critically important to all of us as we make decisions. People's lives are at stake. In this process of responding to the hurricane, the Coast Guard did an admirable job. The response of FEMA was pathetic and has cost lives. We don't want to cost any more lives. The jury is still out on how we will assess EPA's overall response to this tragedy, and it is ongoing. As we look back at what has happened, we cannot take our eyes off the present and ongoing response. Specifically, we need to take a close look at the environmental health risks left behind, to ensure that more people are not harmed. As a public health nurse, I believe that it is important to remember that environmental protection measures are an important component of basic public health and safety. From the date Katrina passed over the Gulf, report after report from residents and the media has described oil spills and fires, leaks from plants and storage tanks, the toxic water and chemicals, raw sewage and sludge are a major cause for concern. Yet we are only receiving vague and piecemeal information about what threats to the public actually exist, what actions are being taken and should be taken to protect the public, and what measures people in the area should take to safeguard themselves. EPA has acknowledged that there is great uncertainty over toxic hazards that remain in the flooded parts of New Orleans, yet people are reentering the area. Their initial testing found out elevated bacteria and lead levels, as well as some amounts of long-banned pesticides in the water. Yet EPA's ``response to Katrina'' webpage offers far too little information to ease any uncertainty citizens might have. For example, an EPA press release acknowledged the presence of fuel oils in soil deposits left behind from the floodwaters, but EPA has not released data, detailed data about which chemicals have been found in the soil. Many fuel oils and other petroleum byproducts are known carcinogens and can breach certain protective gear, yet to my knowledge, EPA has given no warning of potential cancer risks of exposure. Over the next several months, EPA, the Coast Guard, CDC, and State and local officials will be working to clean up this mess. Throughout the process, we must guarantee that workers and evacuees have the right to know about what they are encountering, about the toxics found in the air and the soil and the water. We must ensure that all cleanups are completed to the highest possible health standard. How tragic it would be, after one disaster, to have an additional disaster to be uncovered years from now, as incidence of cancer and other horrible situations arise when preventable measures are a part of our knowledgebase. The public deserves the best that a government has as it relies on information in the first line of protection in such a crisis. Thank you, and I yield back. Mr. Gillmor. The gentlelady yields back. The gentleman from New Hampshire. Mr. Bass. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I thank you for scheduling this hearing, and we obviously all extend our sympathies to the victims of both Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Rita, and I know that it is difficult right now for you guys to be here. You have got a lot to do, and we appreciate the fact that you have taken time to appear here today. However, I do think it is essential for us, as soon as possible in this committee, to assess the possible public health and long-term environmental threats to the Gulf Region. As you all know, the hurricane, both of them, stretched over 90,000 square miles. A lot of infrastructure has been destroyed, drinking water and waste treatment facilities are in peril, and there is evidence of, obviously, release of chemicals, oil spills, hazardous materials, and to the air and soil in the area. I am hopeful, and in fact, I believe it is imperative, that we have a coordinated plan of recovery to deal with, I guess there are over 575 Katrina-related spills of petroleum and hazardous chemicals. There are 24 Superfund sites within the affected areas, and of course, there are hundreds of thousands of wells and water systems and waste treatment plants and so forth that have been compromised. And I hope there is a plan in place to properly remove and treat these areas, given the fact that we have citizens moving back into these areas, and we really may not be 100-percent sure how safe it is for them to be there. So it is a very timely hearing. I thank you all for being here today. I know it is a sacrifice to do so, but we need to know this information. I yield back. Mr. Gillmor. The gentleman yields back. The gentleman from Texas. Mr. Green. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to have my full statement placed into the record, and just say---- Mr. Gillmor. Without objection. Mr. Green. Having a district in east Harris County in the city of Houston, and seeing what damage we had just from Hurricane Rita, our hearts go out again to the folks in Mississippi and Louisiana, and also southeast Texas or southwest Louisiana. The environmental concern we have for the New Orleans area, and I know that is the focus of our hearing, but I will just give an example in our own community. Baytown, Texas, in the east part of Harris County, is part of our district, lost their power supply for their water system, and so, we were concerned that they would not have enough water for not only the residences, but all the industry that is also in and served by the Baytown community. On very short notice, things were done, and they were able to restore the power, actually having a different electricity provider serve across the boundary lines, as we do in Texas, because we have our different providers, to make sure, so not only do we have water for our residences, but we had water for our industry, who are trying to get the refineries back up, Exxon Mobil has a huge, the largest refinery in the country in our district, and they needed water to produce that gas, that we know we need it for our cars and also aviation fuel. But again, I am glad you are holding this hearing, so hopefully, we can learn what we didn't do, and there but for the grace of God, we won't have that problem in east Harris County, where we also have some of the same industries that are along the Mississippi River, but also in Southwest Louisiana. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you. We will now go to the gentleman from Georgia, to whom I apologize for having skipped over earlier. Mr. Deal. That is all right, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for recognizing me. I just simply wanted to say thank you to the witnesses, who have taken time to be here. I think all of us recognize that no community is going to be environmentally perfect at any point in time. I am sure the area we are talking about here was not environmentally perfect before this disaster, and certainly is not now, and all of us want to simply know what is the best we can do to correct the situation as soon as possible, and how can we best put our resources to work? I would be remiss if I did not express appreciation to all of you, and to those who work with you, for the efforts you have made in these very serious and drastic times that have just preceded this hearing. Thank you for being here today. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you. I want to once again welcome our witnesses, and tell you how much, we very much appreciate you being here, and giving us your knowledge and expertise. We will go first to Marcus Peacock, who is the Deputy Administrator of EPA. STATEMENTS OF HON. MARCUS C. PEACOCK, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY; HENRY FALK, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL CENTER FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND AGENCY FOR TOXIC SUBSTANCES AND DISEASE REGISTRY, CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION; AND JOHN PAUL WOODLEY, JR., ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE ARMY CIVIL WORKS, DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY Mr. Peacock. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. There we are. And good afternoon to you, and to members of the subcommittee. On September 6, 2005, I was appointed as the lead coordinator at EPA for response activities related to Hurricane Katrina, and I appreciate the opportunity to provide for today with an update of EPA's response. Mr. Chairman, I request, if it is all right, that my full statement be included in the record. Our hearts go out to the people of the Gulf region, and we share with you a sense of duty and obligation to restore the communities affected by Hurricane Katrina, and most recently, Hurricane Rita. The response will require sustained long-term coordination across all Federal agencies with the affected State governments. My testimony today will provide you with a brief description of EPA's immediate response to Katrina, and I will then tick off our primary environmental concerns at this point in time, including such issues as debris management, the status of drinking water facilities, wastewater facilities, and the like. Just let me, first of all, talk about EPA's early response to Hurricane Katrina. We pre-deployed personnel to the National Response Coordination Center, and sent on-scene coordinators to Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi before Hurricane Katrina made landfall. After the hurricane hit, EPA joined other organizations in urgent rescue needs, putting over 60 watercraft--these were EPA watercraft that are otherwise used for environmental monitoring to work as search-and-rescue vessels. But as soon as possible after that, EPA turned its attention to its primary responsibilities under the National Response Plan. These include providing guidance for debris issues, assisting with the restoration of drinking water and wastewater infrastructure, addressing hazardous releases and oil spills, and providing environmental monitoring and assessment support. Just let me tick off the particular environmental concerns we are dealing with today, and the first is debris. We are working very closely with the Corps of Engineers to provide guidance on disposing of debris that may contain, for instance, PCBs or asbestos, and we will continue to provide site-specific technical assistance in the disposal of hazardous and non- hazardous wastes. Let us next talk about drinking water. Many drinking water systems were affected in the three States. The map showing the systems is up there. All those dots are drinking water systems that were in the swath of Hurricane Katrina. As of yesterday, the states were reporting that approximately 80 percent of the drinking water systems in the region are operational. Those are all mostly the green dots. I know that may sound pretty good, but we believe that an estimated 2.3 million people served by facilities before the hurricane are not currently being served by operational drinking water facilities. Let us talk about wastewater. We have here similar map on wastewater--these are wastewater facilities in the declared disaster area. Based on what we know, as of yesterday, approximately 90 percent of wastewater facilities in the affected area are operational. Once again, while that sounds good, we think there is an estimated population of 1.8 million people that were being served by these facilities before the hurricane that currently are not being served by operating wastewater facilities. They are red dots on the map, which includes, for instance, New Orleans. And getting 100 percent of these dots, if you will, green, is a very high priority. Let me talk about oil and chemical spills. EPA and the United States Coast Guard are working together to address what, so far, are about 400 oil and hazardous waste material releases that have been reported to the National Response Center or otherwise observed by emergency responders. Now, I know this subcommittee in particular is interested in Superfund sites, so let me address those. There are 24 Superfund sites, as shown on the chart here, or NPL sites, located in the region affected by the hurricane. We are working together with State health and environmental agencies, and I just want to say here, the relationship between EPA and the State agencies, including LDEQ, has just been spectacular. We are really working side by side, literally side by side. And both EPA and the states have conducted rudimentary inspections--well, we conducted rudimentary inspections of all these sites as soon as they were accessible. Now, we recognize this was only a first look at the sites, and we are in the process of assessing each one of these in greater detail. Initial visual inspections and the additional inspections we have been able to do to date indicate a number of downed fences and some damage to groundwater treatment piping. Thus far, no sites have been identified as suffering significant damage, however, monitoring and assessment are not over by any means. Let us talk about floodwaters. In the aftermath of Katrina, contamination of floodwaters was one of our leading concerns, and of particular concern to rescue workers and residents who might have still been in the area. The results to date, as indicated before, show that floodwater has high levels of E. coli and other bacteria. These are markers that you might find in raw sewage. W ealso have found some contaminants which exceeded drinking water assessment standards. Fortunately, other than the bacterial elements we found, the contaminants detected thus far have not been at levels that would pose an immediate risk to human health. They could pose a long-term risk, but the main issue here is, of course, the bacterial contaminants, which could cause an infection. Let me talk about sediments. As the floodwaters of New Orleans have begun to recede, we are analyzing the sediment. This map shows all the sediment sites we have sampled thus far. Preliminary results from sediment sampling collected by both EPA and once again, Louisiana, indicate that some sediments are heavily contaminated with fuel oil, and once again, with bacteria, which is not a surprise, since we found it in the floodwaters. Human health risks may therefore exist from contact with sediment deposited from receding floodwaters. Let me just touch briefly on air monitoring. We have been doing air monitoring. It will be of increasing importance to continue to do that. This slide shows a number of the tools we are using, including aircraft, as well as mobile monitors on the ground and stationary monitors. As people start coming back into the area, particularly rescue workers, we will continue to monitor for contaminants, as well as possible dangers from particulates. Looking ahead, much remains to be done to help address the public and health impacts of Hurricane Katrina, and some of you may know I am fairly new to EPA, although on some days, it doesn't feel that way to me. But the dedication with which EPA employees have responded to this crisis makes me very proud to be counted among them. As Senator Jeffords recently noted after hearing what EPA personnel had done in response to Katrina, he said: ``We have heard so much about what went wrong in Katrina's aftermath. This is one example of what went right. These EPA employees have my utmost respect and gratitude.'' Thank you very much for letting me appear today. [The prepared statement of Marcus C. Peacock follows:] Prepared Statement of Marcus C. Peacock, Deputy Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency introduction Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the Sub-Committee. My name is Marcus Peacock and I serve as the Deputy Administrator at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). On September 6th, the Administrator formally appointed me to lead the coordination of the Agency's response activities for Hurricane Katrina and I appreciate the opportunity to provide you today with an update on EPA's response. Our hearts go out to the people of the Gulf region, and we share with you an urgent sense of duty to help restore the communities affected by Hurricane Katrina--and most recently by Hurricane Rita. Over the past few weeks, natural disasters have left their mark on the Gulf region; the loss of life and destruction is staggering. The magnitude of Hurricane Katrina will require sustained, long-term coordination across all federal agencies and with the affected state and local governments. My testimony today will provide you with an overview of EPA's role and activities in the affected Gulf region, our impressive coordination with federal, state and local partners and a snapshot of our primary environmental concerns. Early Response for Hurricane Katrina First, I want to briefly touch on EPA's early response to Hurricane Katrina. Beginning on August 25th, EPA pre-deployed personnel to the FEMA National Response Coordination Center and sent On-Scene Coordinators to the Florida, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi Emergency Operations Centers before Hurricane Katrina made landfall. The On-Scene Coordinator (OSC) is the federal official responsible for monitoring or directing responses to all oil spills and hazardous substance releases reported to the federal government. We sent additional personnel to the affected areas as soon as travel into the region was possible. In anticipation of Hurricane Rita, EPA also dSeptember 20th. he number of EPA staff and contractors assisting with recovery efforts is more than 500 in the affected Gulf region, as indicated on the deployment map. When EPA personnel arrived in New Orleans, it was clear that saving lives was the first priority, and EPA joined other federal, state, and local responders in urgent rescue needs, putting over sixty EPA watercraft otherwise used for environmental monitoring to work as search and rescue vessels. Our field staff and contractors--mostly environmental experts equipped to address oil and hazardous substances releases--joined the fire fighters, police, and other first responders and rescued nearly 800 people in Louisiana. epa role in federal response After helping with urgent rescue needs, EPA turned its attention to its primary responsibilities under FEMA's National Response Plan. EPA is the lead federal agency for Emergency Support Function (ESF) #10, which addresses oil and hazardous materials, and works with other agencies to provide support for a number of other Emergency Support Functions, including ESF #3, which addresses Public Works and Engineering. Specifically, our responsibilities include preventing, minimizing, or mitigating threats to public health, welfare, or the environment caused by the actual or potential releases of hazardous materials; testing the quality of flood waters, sediments, and air; and assisting with the restoration of the drinking and waste water infrastructure. Also under ESF #3, the Agency anticipates a growing role working with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) to address final disposition of the large volumes of debris from homes, buildings and other structures damaged by Hurricane Katrina. EPA, in coordination with the States, is providing information to both workers and the public about test results, as well as assisting communities with debris disposal and hazardous waste issues. debris management and disposal The volume of debris left behind by Hurricane Katrina is huge. EPA is working closely with other federal agencies (particularly the US Army Corps of Engineers), state agencies, and local governments to facilitate the collection, segregation, and management of household hazardous waste, containers, and the larger debris. To date, we have provided guidance on: identifying electrical equipment that may contain PCBs; marking and storage of electrical equipment that may contain PCBs; disposal of electrical equipment that may contain PCBs; and handling and disposal of debris containing asbestos. EPA has also provided the affected states with guidance on burning debris. EPA personnel continue to provide site-specific technical assistance in the disposal of hazardous waste and a wide array of waste management debris left behind by the storm. drinking water and waste water infrastructure EPA is working closely with state and local officials and private experts to assess damage and provide technical assistance to water infrastructure systems in the FEMA designated areas. Two maps are included which indicate the current status of these facilities. EPA's mobile laboratories and regional labs in Mississippi and Louisiana are also available to provide on-going water testing capabilities. Many drinking water systems were affected in the three states. According to local officials, many were disabled or impaired by the loss of electrical power but the majority of systems are now operating, some with ``boil water'' notices. Nonetheless, there are still some systems that remain inoperable or in unknown condition. As of September 27th, the states reported that approximately 80% of the drinking water systems in the region were operational. Prior to the hurricane, we believe that an estimated population of 2.3 million people were served by facilities that are not currently operational. Additionally, because there are many private well owners in the affected region, EPA has begun to distribute water testing kits in affected parishes in Louisiana. EPA has issued a local advisory to let home owners know that these kits are available. Many wastewater facilities were affected, mostly in Louisiana and Mississippi. Based on what we know as of September 27th, approximately 90% of these facilities in the affected area are operational. While the information on wastewater treatment plants is not as readily available as for drinking water facilities, we believe that an estimated population of 1.8 million people were served by facilities that are not currently operational. Getting 100% of these facilities operational is a high priority. EPA plans to maintain a strong partnership with health and environmental agencies in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama as we move forward. oil spills and hazardous releases There are hundreds of chemical and petrochemical facilities as well as other sites of potential concern which are being inventoried and assessed. EPA and the United States Coast Guard (USCG) are working together to address oil and hazardous material releases reported to the National Response Center or otherwise observed by our emergency responders. As of September 21st, EPA and the USCG have responded to over 400 reported incidents. Of these, there were five major oil spills in the New Orleans area resulting in releases of over 8 million gallons. These spills are also being addressed by EPA and the USCG. superfund sites There are twenty-four Superfund sites located in the region affected by Hurricane Katrina. As indicated on the map of the Federally declared disaster areas as of September 26th, there are fifteen National Priority List (NPL) sites in Louisiana, three in Mississippi, and six in Alabama. Working together with state health and environmental agencies, EPA conducted initial visual inspections of each NPL site as soon as they were accessible. Recognizing this was only a ``first look'' at these sites, we are assessing the condition of all of the affected NPL sites in greater depth as recovery continues. The initial visual inspections indicated a number of downed fences and damage to some groundwater treatment piping, however, to date, no sites have been identified as having suffered significant damage. sediment in new orleans As flood waters in New Orleans again recede, we are analyzing the sediment left behind. We are conducting biological and chemical testing, specifically for volatile organic compounds, semi-volatile organic compounds, total metals, pesticides, and total petroleum hydrocarbons. Preliminary results from sediment sampling collected by EPA and the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality (LDEQ) indicate that some sediments are contaminated with bacteria and fuel oils. Human health risks may therefore exist from unprotected contact with sediment deposited from receding flood waters and exposure to sediment should therefore be avoided if possible. E. coli was detected in sediment samples, which implies the presence of fecal contamination. Some of the semi-volatile organic compounds, common to diesel and fuel oils, were also detected at very elevated levels. The levels of metals detected thus far have been below levels that would be expected to produce immediate adverse health effects. Extensive sediment sampling continues in the flooded areas of New Orleans. flood water In the immediate aftermath of Katrina, the potential contamination of flood waters was among our leading concerns. EPA's initial plans to collect water samples in the New Orleans flood zone were set aside to assist in rescue operations, and were further delayed by limited access due to security concerns. Nonetheless, EPA, in close coordination with the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality, began water sampling on September 3rd, and we continue to conduct biological and chemical testing of the flood waters. Planned and actual sampling sites to date are reflected on the map which shows the extent of the flood waters in New Orleans as of August 30th. The flood waters continue to be analyzed for over 100 chemical priority pollutants as well as for bacteria. Results to date indicate that the flood water has high levels of E. coli, and that some locations tested had lead and arsenic levels which exceeded drinking water assessment levels. Although other contaminants were detected, none have been at levels that would pose an immediate risk to human health. Throughout this process, EPA has taken great steps to ensure scientific accuracy. EPA solicited the assistance the Science Advisory Board to review the flood water sampling plan, and EPA and CDC have routinely conducted a thorough data review, and interpreted the data for potential human health affects. water quality EPA is working closely with its federal and state partners to mitigate environmental impacts to Lake Pontchartrain caused by the flood waters. As the Corps continues un-watering operations, skimming booms are deployed to remove oil and debris from water prior to pumping. After pumping, additional booms are being deployed in the canals leading to the Lake to further reduce oil, debris, and solids. Aerators are also being used in the canals to raise dissolved oxygen levels in the water, prior to outfall to the Mississippi River. Contaminated flood waters and sediment may adversely impact coastal aquatic resources. As such, EPA and USACE are actively evaluating options for directing the floodwaters. In addition, EPA is coordinating water quality monitoring efforts with USGS, NOAA and our state partners in the Mississippi Sound and the Gulf of Mexico. The poster behind me reflects the coordinated post-Hurricane plans to monitor water quality in the Gulf of Mexico. air monitoring Air monitoring networks normally in place for monitoring particulate matter, ozone, sulfur dioxide, oxides of nitrogen, and carbon monoxide under the Clean Air Act were mostly destroyed in New Orleans and damaged and disrupted in coastal Mississippi. EPA is working to restore monitoring systems in those regions, as well as to deploy new monitors designed specifically to address potential air quality impacts during the recovery from Hurricane Katrina. For instance, as sediments from the floodwaters dry, EPA has conducted air screening sampling with special monitors to assess potential inhalation risks from particulates. Specific to New Orleans, EPA, in coordination with our government partners in Louisiana, makes daily tactical decisions regarding air monitoring needs and works with an agency-wide team of air monitoring professionals to address both emerging and source or location specific issues as well as longer term regional air quality issues. EPA has a number of tools to measure air quality. These include DataRam 400, personal air monitoring devices, as well as use of a remote sensing aircraft known as ASPECT to locate chemical spills that needed emergency response to protect both water and air quality. EPA's environmental surveillance aircraft were in operation since the early days of the emergency, and the effort has now transitioned into deployment of specific ground based preliminary screening over the larger New Orleans area. We anticipate that ASPECT may also be used in the areas affected by Hurricane Rita. EPA's real-time mobile laboratory--the Trace Atmospheric Gas Analyzer (TAGA)--is sampling air quality in the New Orleans area. Initial screening results from the TAGA represent the beginning of extensive sampling efforts. As this is a dynamic situation, general conclusions should not be made regarding air safety based on results from snapshots of data. EPA and the affected states will continue to monitor for potential inhalation risks and have plans to enhance their temporary monitoring networks in the coming weeks to monitor and evaluate the air impacts of recovery activities including the burning of debris. reoccupation of new orleans EPA and CDC formed a joint task force to advise local and state officials of the potential health and environmental risks associated with returning to the City of New Orleans. Their report, titled Environmental Health Needs and Habitability Assessment, was issued on September 17th and identifies a number of challenges and critical issues for consideration prior to the reoccupation of New Orleans. The task force is now incorporated into the Federal New Orleans Reoccupation Zip Code Assessment Group (Zip Code Assessment Group), which will provide information on a broad range of issues, ranging from infrastructure to health issues. Their recommendations will assist State and Local officials in their decisions regarding when to allow residents to reoccupy the city. As part of this larger group, EPA will continue to work to identify potential health and environmental risks associated with returning to the city based on the Agency's ongoing efforts to assess the quality of the air, water and sediment. fuel waivers EPA, in conjunction with the Department of Energy, responded quickly to address disruptions to the fuel supply that have occurred due to the damage to refinery and pipeline infrastructure in the Gulf Region. To increase the supply of fuel and minimize potential supply disruptions, the Agency has issued emergency waivers of certain federal and state fuel standards. On August 30th, EPA granted waivers applying to low sulfur diesel fuel requirements, Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) standards that control the volatility of gasoline during the summer months, state gasoline sulfur limits, or reformulated gas (RFG) requirements. On September 21st, EPA expanded this effort in order to minimize potential fuel supply disruptions caused by Hurricane Rita. To address each fuel supply situation, waivers have been granted for various periods of time and have been applicable at the national, state or local level, to the extent necessary to alleviate the fuel supply disruption. In taking these actions, EPA used a Clean Air Act waiver provision recently signed into law as part of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 signed into law this year. This provision authorizes the Administrator of EPA to temporarily waive fuel standards due to ``extreme and unusual'' circumstances ``that are the result of a natural disaster, an Act of God, pipeline or refinery equipment failure, or another event that could not reasonably have been foreseen or prevented and not the lack of prudent planning'' on the part of fuel suppliers. informing the public We view communication to the public, workers, and other agencies to be a critical component of our response effort. The Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) was on-scene early in the response effort, distributing over 3,500 fact sheets by hand in the first two weeks and conducting interventions that removed more than 850 workers from serious or life threatening hazards. OSHA continues these activities and on a daily basis, EPA response personnel and contractors receive health and safety instructions regarding field conditions and safe work practices. EPA's preliminary sampling results are also provided to On-Scene Coordinators to facilitate field decisions and ensure health and safety of workers. EPA posts advisories on our website and also distributes them through the Incident Command Post in Baton Rouge. We also have been alerting communities through AM and FM radio broadcasts, particularly on aerial mosquito spraying and how to avoid vector borne illnesses such as the West Nile Virus. future challenges Looking ahead, much remains to be done to help address the public health and environmental impacts of Hurricane Katrina. The safe management of debris remains a high immediate priority, and the Agency will assist our federal, state and local partners as they move forward on debris removal. For its part, the Agency will strive to provide sound and practical advice, participate in hazardous waste removal where appropriate, and monitor air quality where open burning is occurring. EPA will also continue to work with the USACE and others to support the States and local governments in their efforts to repair and restore public facilities including drinking water, waste water, and waste treatment facilities. We will also continue to monitor air, water, and sediment quality in the region and make sure that this information is readily available to federal, state and local officials, other responders, and the public. conclusion The nation faces an enormous task in restoring and rebuilding the affected areas. Simply meeting many basic needs of people in the region--including shelter, safe drinking water, sanitation, and protection from disease and hazards--will require a broad partnership across government agencies, the private sector and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs). We expect that citizens and government agencies will look to EPA and our Federal partners for technical expertise, scientifically sound data, and practical advice on environmental and public health conditions in the region for some time to come. We are focused on meeting that challenge. Finally, as local communities undertake the task of reviving their economies and helping businesses restart their operations, EPA, in partnership with other federal, state, and local agencies, will provide technical expertise and guidance to assist in the recovery. Some of you may know that I'm quite new to the EPA, but what I've seen in the past few weeks makes me proud to be counted among them. I'd like to end by reiterating a statement made by Senator Jim Jeffords after our briefing of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee: ``We've heard so much about what went wrong in Katrina's aftermath, and this is one example of what went right. These EPA employees have my utmost respect and gratitude.'' At this time I welcome any questions you may have. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you very much. We will go to Dr. Henry Falk, who is the Director of the National Center for Environmental Health and Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. Dr. Falk. STATEMENT OF HENRY FALK Mr. Falk. Thank you very much. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, and Congresswoman Solis, and members of the subcommittee. My name is Dr. Henry Falk, and I am the Director of the Coordinating Center for Environmental Health and Injury Prevention at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, ATSDR. ATSDR is a sister agency to the CDC, and is part of the Department of Health and Human Services. Because of our responsibilities under the Superfund program, we work very closely with EPA, as well as State and local governments, and with communities across the country. Hurricane Katrina is a huge public health emergency. It is an unparalleled challenge to the public health community and particularly to those of us in environmental health as we grapple with so many complex and interwoven environmental health issues. In New Orleans, the environmental health system needed to support a major metropolitan area was severely disrupted. This has also been true for many other cities and communities in the storm's path. In addition, a substantial proportion of residential structures, the homes for so many people in New Orleans and elsewhere, have sustained severe structural damage from flooding. On a personal level, we all keep in mind the heart-wrenching nature of this tragedy and its broad impact. Shortly after Hurricane Katrina hit, Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt and EPA Administrator Steve Johnson asked me to go to New Orleans, Louisiana, to lead a CDC/ATSDR and EPA taskforce to identify the overarching environmental health and infrastructure issues facing New Orleans. My first actual view of New Orleans was in a flyover by helicopter. It was essentially an empty city still very much underwater, and with great evidence of storm damage. For many of us at ATSDR, CDC, HHS, and elsewhere, these scenes have served as an overwhelming stimulus to respond to the best of our abilities. The 13 environmental health issues we initially identified include drinking water, wastewater, solid waste and debris, sediments, soil contamination, toxic chemicals, power and natural gas, housing, the unwatering and flood waters, occupational safety and health, vector rodent animal control, road conditions, underground storage tanks such as gasoline, and food safety. The most striking feature of this disaster is the vast array of key environmental needs and infrastructure services that have been affected. These are complex and interrelated, and they will need to be assessed by local elected officials when making decisions about re-inhabiting New Orleans. ATSDR staff have been valiant and dedicated in their efforts, and worked tirelessly to assist the people affected by Hurricane Katrina. At least 15 percent of our staff have been deployed directly to Hurricane Katrina activities through the CDC Emergency Operations Center or through HHS and the U.S. Public Health Service auspices. Probably an equivalent number have been backing them up at headquarters in Atlanta, and those numbers continue to grow. ATSDR staff works closely with EPA. We have staff stationed in EPA regional offices, and we are assisting EPA in the field and around the clock to mitigate environmental health issues, including possible chemical exposures. CDC/ATSDR staff in the field and at HHS and CDC headquarters are collaborating with Federal, state, and local health officials to evaluate and analyze the environmental data. ATSDR is also actively participating on the Environmental Impacts and Clean-Up Working Group, as part of a White House taskforce on Hurricane Katrina. That working group is co- chaired by the Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services, and by my colleague to the right, Marcus Peacock, Deputy Administrator of the EPA. The working group is particularly focused on policy, has served as an important locus for interagency discussions. ATSDR is particularly engaged with the group, providing technical input by neighborhood and zip code, on environmental issues related to the return of residents to New Orleans. In the future, ATSDR will continue to provide technical assistance on issues related to potential exposure of the public and of response workers to hazardous substances. We will continue to provide toxicological expertise, and make recommendations about ways to eliminate or control exposures to hazardous substances in the environment. We will continue to work closely with Federal, state, and local partners in working through these difficult issues, and as the recovery progresses, we hope to effectively serve the needs of the many people and communities affected by the hurricanes. Thank you for this opportunity to speak with you, and I look forward to your questions. [The prepared statement of Henry Falk follows:] Prepared Statement of Henry Falk, Director, Coordinating Center for Environmental Health and Injury Prevention, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention/Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services introduction Good afternoon Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee. My name is Dr. Henry Falk and I am the Director of the Coordinating Center for Environmental Health and Injury Prevention at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)/Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR). ATSDR is an independent agency within the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), and a sister agency to the CDC. Its relationship with the CDC's National Center for Environmental Health (NCEH) is especially strong, because the Director of ATSDR, Dr. Howard Frumkin, also directs NCEH. ATSDR also partners extensively with the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). This afternoon I will describe ATSDR's ongoing contribution to the Hurricane Katrina response, based on its unique expertise and experience in responding to emergency releases of hazardous substances under Superfund. ATSDR was established under the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act of 1980 (CERCLA), to assess and prevent or limit potential exposures to hazardous substances and associated adverse health effects. Each year ATSDR conducts assessments of potential exposures to hazardous substances, and potential associated health impacts, at hundreds of sites around the Country. Frequently these assessments are conducted in connection with an emergency response, where ATSDR is called on to support response work in communities impacted by acute releases of toxic chemicals. Through 25 years of experience in emergency response under Superfund the Agency has developed a workforce with experience and expertise that is directly applicable to assessing potential exposures and human health threats from exposure to contaminated floodwater, soil and sediment in the wake of a natural disaster. The wealth of skills in our multidisciplinary workforce--from physicians to toxicologists to epidemiologists to environmental engineers to health education specialists and risk communicators-- coupled with the location of ATSDR field staff in EPA regional offices around the country, allow ATSDR to mobilize quickly and coordinate effectively with HHS and CDC and other agencies within the Department, and with EPA and other government agencies, in a strategic response to emergency situations. ATSDR staff in the EPA regional offices work collaboratively with EPA and state partners to prepare for and respond to chemical and other public health emergencies. ATSDR performs emergency response activities under the National Response Plan. ATSDR collaborates extensively with other federal partners as part of the Emergency Support Functions (ESF) dedicated to public health and medical services as well as oil and hazardous materials responses. These correspond to ESF 8 and 10, respectively. atsdr response to hurricane katrina Working in close coordination with HHS and CDC, as well as with EPA, ATSDR is providing critical expertise, resources and assistance to the multi-level public health response to Hurricane Katrina. The discussion below describes three primary components of ATSDR's ongoing contribution to the response: (1) Participation in task forces and work groups established by the Administration to assess environmental health needs and related policy issues; (2) Playing an integral role in the CDC Emergency Operations Center, and deploying staff to emergency operations centers in HHS, FEMA and EPA; and (3) Working in the field to assess the potential for exposure to hazardous substances that may adversely impact human health. (1) Environmental Health Needs & Habitability Assessment Joint Task Force of CDC/ATSDR and EPA, and the Environmental Impacts and Cleanups Working Group of the White House Hurricane Katrina Task Force One unique contribution by CDC/ATSDR to the Hurricane Katrina response was leading a joint CDC/ATSDR and EPA task force that developed an initial assessment report identifying the overarching environmental health and infrastructure issues related to reinhabiting New Orleans. At the request of Secretary Michael Leavitt of HHS and Administrator Steve Johnson of EPA, CDC/ATSDR and EPA established the joint taskforce to conduct the assessment. I had the privilege of serving as Chair of that joint taskforce, which was made of a multidisciplinary and multiagency team with expertise in environmental health science, environmental engineering, medicine, health and risk communication, and administration/logistics. The initial eight-member team consisted of personnel from CDC/ATSDR and EPA. The team began its work on September 6, 2005, and completed it on September 12, 2005. Our work was guided by six key questions: 1. What are the core environmental health issues to be addressed? 2. Which agencies and organizations at the federal, state, or local level are responsible for, or involved in, the various environmental health issues? 3. What progress has been made and what challenges exist? 4. What is the timetable to address these environmental health issues? 5. What resources exist or need to be brought to bear to address these environmental health issues? 6. What are the key milestones and endpoints that define success? Initially we made contacts with CDC leadership on the ground in New Orleans, and with other key federal, state and local public health and environment leadership. In addition, we completed air and surface level tours of New Orleans to see firsthand the impact of Hurricane Katrina. In conducting the assessment, CDC/ATSDR and EPA collaborated extensively with a diverse group of federal, state and local officials with expertise in public health and the environment, including the New Orleans City Public Health Department, the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals, and the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality. The taskforce identified 13 environmental health and public health infrastructure issues to address. This initial assessment includes drinking water, wastewater, solid waste/debris, sediments/soil contamination (toxic chemicals), power, natural gas, housing, removal of flood water, occupational safety and health/public security, vector/ rodent/animal control, road conditions, underground storage tanks (e.g., gasoline), and food safety. The report also identifies a number of barriers to overcome and critical decisions to make prior to reinhabiting New Orleans. The mayor and city officials who will make these decisions will be able to draw on the expertise of the participants in the Joint Task Force and other partners. Dr. Howard Frumkin, the new Director of ATSDR, was recently deployed to Louisiana to continue the Agency's work. ATSDR also is participating actively in the Working Group on Environmental Impacts and Cleanup, which is part of the White House Task Force on Hurricane Katrina. The Deputy Secretary of HHS and the Deputy Administrator of EPA co-chair this working group. I have served as co-chair of the New Orleans Subcommittee of this group, and other ATSDR and CDC staff are members of the Guidelines, Sampling, and Communications Subcommittees. The Working Group is particularly focused on policy issues related to Environmental Impacts and Cleanup, and has served as an important locus for inter-Agency discussions. The Environmental Health Needs & Habitability Assessment Joint Taskforce that I headed in Baton Rouge has now been consolidated within the New Orleans Zip Code Assessment Group; this interagency group is providing technical input by neighborhood or zip code on environmental issues related to the return of residents to New Orleans. (2) Emergency Operations Center ATSDR leadership and staff serve as incident managers; provide GIS mapping and services, tools we regularly use to identify areas of potential or actual chemical exposure; and subject matter expertise for public health and risk communication. For example, Dr. Tom Sinks, Acting Deputy Director of ATSDR, served as CDC's public health lead in the CDC Emergency Operations Center in Atlanta during the initial phases of the hurricane response. Captain Scott Deitchman, USPHS, M.D., ATSDR's Associate Director for Terrorism Preparedness and Emergency Response, has taken over in this capacity in the on-going CDC/ATSDR response. As of September 23, 2005, at least 55 ATSDR staff have been deployed to Hurricane Katrina response activities in the CDC Emergency Operations Center or into field operations including the FEMA Regional Resource Command Centers and the HHS Secretary's Emergency Response Team. As an HHS agency, ATSDR has deployed many Commissioned Officers through the Office of Force Readiness and Deployment/Commissioned Corps Readiness Force. Also, currently ATSDR regional representatives are located within the EPA Headquarters Emergency Operations Center (EOC), Washington, D.C., EPA Region IV EOC in Gulfport, Mississippi, EPA Region IV EOC in Atlanta, Georgia, Region VI Joint Field Office (JFO), Baton Rouge, Louisiana and in the EPA Region VI EOC, Dallas, Texas. In addition, a significant number of staff at ATSDR headquarters in Atlanta have been supporting a variety of Hurricane Katrina response activities and back up those deployed into the field. (3) Deployments to the field to assess potential for exposure to hazardous substances with adverse health impacts A significant number of CDC/ATSDR staff members have been deployed into the field or serve as subject matter experts in the areas of toxicology, sanitation, food and water safety, vector control issues pertaining to aerial spraying of pesticides for mosquito abatement, evacuation center operations, emergency response, epidemiology, environmental engineering and public health infrastructure, community relations, public affairs, and health education. In addition, ATSDR regional representatives in Mississippi and Louisiana are in the field with the EPA on scene coordinators investigating chemical spills and providing technical assistance as needed to resolve questions about the potential for exposure to hazardous chemicals, and to assist the CDC senior management official. ATSDR has been working with EPA to assess the condition of Superfund sites and other industrial sites in the affected areas, and will continue to participate in more detailed assessments in the future. In the Joint Field Office in Baton Rouge, ATSDR staff is providing support to EPA field deployed staff, serving on the debris removal and health and safety committees formed by FEMA, and assisting the environmental unit of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals. In Texas, ATSDR regional representatives are coordinating with EPA at the Dallas EOC on sampling and chemical release issues. ATSDR also is working closely with CDC and the New Orleans Public Health Department to re-establish basic public health services to the residents of New Orleans at temporary facilities. ATSDR will remain in close contact with federal, state, and local partners to ensure that the public health expertise of this Agency most effectively serves the needs of the people and the communities in the affected areas. ATSDR will continue to provide technical assistance on issues related to potential exposure to hazardous substances by the public and response workers. We anticipate this need will continue for at least several months. Additionally, ATSDR will continue to address issues related to the assessment of potential health effects resulting from exposure to hazardous substances in the environment. Amidst the hurricane response work, ATSDR continues to focus resources on priority Superfund activities. ATSDR is continuing to pursue these activities, but recognizes that there may be some delays as a result of on-going deployments and hurricane-related support. ATSDR is taking steps to minimize disruption to other parts of its program. Thank you for the opportunity to talk to you today about ATSDR's participation in the response to Hurricane Katrina. At this time, I welcome your questions. ______ http://www.bt.cdc.gov/disasters/hurricanes/katrina/pdf/ envassessment.pdf Environmental Health Needs and Habitability Assessment Joint Taskforce, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention & U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, September 17, 2005 executive summary Hurricane Katrina made landfall on Monday, August 29, 2005, as a category 4 hurricane and passed within 10 to 15 miles of New Orleans, Louisiana. The storm brought heavy winds and rain to the city, and the damage breached several levees protecting New Orleans from the water of Lake Pontchartrain. The levee breaches flooded up to 80% of the city with water reaching a depth of 25 feet in some places. Among the wide-scale impacts of Hurricane Katrina, the storm caused significant loss of life and disrupted power, natural gas, water, and sewage treatment, road safety, and other essential services to the city. Early in the disaster response and recovery, federal, state, and local elected officials and public health and environmental leaders recognized the significant role of environmental health in the post- hurricane rebuilding of New Orleans. At the request of the Secretary Michael Leavitt of the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) and Administrator Steve Johnson of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Dr. Julie Louise Gerberding, created the Environmental Health Needs Assessment and Habitability Taskforce (EH-NAHT). The taskforce was charged with identifying the overarching environmental health issues faced by New Orleans to reinhabit the city. The EH-NAHT collaborated extensively with a diverse group of federal, state, and local partners, including the New Orleans City Public Health Department, the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals (LADHH), and Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality (LDEQ), Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE). The team was guided by the following questions: 1. What are the core or fundamental environmental health issues to be addressed; 2. Which agencies and organizations at the federal, state, or local level are responsible for, or involved in, the various environmental health issues; 3. What progress has been made and what challenges exist; 4. What is the timetable to address these environmental health issues; 5. What resources exist or need to be brought to bear to address these environmental health issues; andWhat are the key milestones and endpoints that define success. The team identified 13 environmental health issues and supporting infrastructure to address. This initial assessment included drinking water, wastewater, solid waste/debris, sediments/soil contamination (toxic chemicals), power, natural gas, housing, unwatering/flood water, occupational safety and health/public security, vector/rodent/animal control, road conditions, underground storage tanks (e.g., gasoline), and food safety. After the initial assessment, the EH-NAHT categorized these issues by increasing time and complexity to full restoration of services (Level 4, most complex and requiring the most time to restoration). Part of the complexity relates to how specific and explicit the criteria for the end points are for each function. Level 1 Unwatering Power Natural Gas Vector/Rodent/Animal Control Underground storage tanks (e.g., gasoline) Food Safety Level 2 Drinking Water Wastewater Road Conditions Level 3 Solid Waste/Debris Sediments/Soil Contamination (Toxic Chemicals) Level 4 Housing Occupational safety and health as well as public security was identified as cross-cutting all the other areas. Long-term solutions to these many issues are critical to allow resumption of normal life in New Orleans and to prevent reoccurrence of such an event in this area. The EH-NAHT has the following conclusions based upon our initial assessment: A complex array of environmental health problems exists in New Orleans. The most striking feature of the disaster is the array of key environmental health and infrastructure factors affected all at once. All key environmental health and related services are being reestablished, and this work needs to be done in a very coordinated and well-planned way. The unwatering of New Orleans is a critical first step. The unwatering is an essential first step to allow access for assessment and repair of all basic services and habitability barriers. Some significant assessments are not yet started because of the continued unwatering, which could take an additional 4 weeks to complete. These assessments may impact the timing, resources and scope of the needed repairs/ replacements. It is important to bring infrastructure systems in New Orleans back on line. Different timeframes are necessary to bring the various infrastructure systems (e.g., drinking water, wastewater, power, and natural gas) on line with varying degrees of capabilities. Restoring drinking water systems and wastewater treatment systems needs a planned approach, but full restoration will be delayed by the many breaks in the distribution and collection systems and by the need for upgrade and repairs in older systems. Unanticipated delays must be kept in mind in the process of unwatering and the scope and complexity of the interdependent systems. The cleanup of debris (including housing debris) and potentially contaminated soil/sediment in New Orleans are rate-limiting factors. The timeline for debris treatment, disposal, containment, and transport, as well as for the testing of potentially contaminated soils/sediment, will slow or accelerate the rate at which the city can be reinhabited. The potential contamination of soils/sediments has great uncertainty attached to it. A comprehensive sampling and testing of a broad array of toxic chemicals will be required to identify any widespread contamination or selected hot spots and to ensure the safety of returning inhabitants or for redevelopment. Intense interest will exist to reinhabit New Orleans. Significant pressure will occur to allow rehabitation. A single decision will not be made to reinhabit the whole city at one time. Rehabitation is expected to be done neighborhood by neighborhood IF it is possible to prevent access to the closed areas of the city. Worker safety and health as well as public safety and security are mandatory enablers for all of the activities. It is critical to address the housing issues in New Orleans. Housing is likely the most critical issue in reinhabiting the city because of the Large percentage of city housing that was flooded and is not likely to be viable; Intense personal connection an individual has to their home; Legal, jurisdictional, and procedural issues involved in the decision-making process; Large proportion of the city population that is displaced. Some residents are a significant distance away from New Orleans or may not intend to return; Difficulty in establishing and maintaining communications with the widely dispersed population; Challenge of identifying acceptable methods and resources for assessing such a large number of homes; and the Scope of the demolition process and safe and efficient removal of debris. An immediate need exists to allow temporary or transient entry of recoveryworkers, residents, and business owners. In the immediate period, explicit guidelines are being developed for safe entry of recovery workers to New Orleans, for brief entry by residential and business owners to retrieve key household or business items in neighborhoods of the city where it is safe to do so, and for reinhabiting the least impacted areas of the city where key environmental health and infrastructure conditions are met. Ensuring worker safety and health and public safety and security are essential. Public security and intensive efforts to achieve worker safety and health for the very large recovery workforce, working often in extraordinarily difficult and challenging conditions, is essential to rebuilding New Orleans. The criteria for short-term and long-term return to New Orleans should be tailored to the timeframe and population. Different criteria will be necessary for the short-term and long- term return to the city e.g., use of bottled water in the absence of potable water will be acceptable for recovery workers and select others on a limited short-term basis versus the general population, which includes children and the elderly over the long-term). The EH-NAHT has the following recommendations based on our initial assessment: It is important to involve state, local, and other stakeholders in decision-making. All the issues in reinhabiting New Orleans are interwoven, complex, and cannot be addressed individually. It is extremely important that decisions are made involving state, local, and federal staff as well as all other stakeholders, particularly the local population. Developing a shared vision for the rebuilding (including infrastructure) is critical. Because of the magnitude of the devastation, it is critical that decisions be guided by a clear, shared vision by all stakeholders of what the rebuilt New Orleans should be. As devastating as this event is, the vision of the future of the city is critical in guiding development for such a widely impacted area. Federal, state, and local decision-makers should explore processes used by other areas in devastating circumstances. New Orleans should draw upon the experiences of other localities that addressed devastating events--areas such as New York (World Trade Center), Florida (repeated hurricanes), and San Francisco (earthquake). Their experiences and solutions might serve as examples to New Orleans on processes that can be used for creating a broad vision for redevelopment, for identifying key decisions and strategies, and for involving all stakeholders (including the displaced population) in the broad- impact, critical decisions that will have to be made. Maintaining collaboration with involved agencies is essential. Maintain, through FEMA and other mechanisms, broad collaboration and a true sense of partnership in developing a very coordinated and sustained effort to recovery. Attending to the housing decisions is critical. A number of critical decisions need to be made about housing. These decisions include Developing explicit guidelines for entry by recovery workers, for brief periods of entry by residents and business owners to retrieve essential belongings, and for reinhabiting relatively undamaged neighborhoods of the city. Creating a neighborhood-by-neighborhood approach for assessing housing, cleanup/demolition, and reinhabiting/rebuilding. Selecting method(s) for assessing large amounts of damaged housing, with rapid methods necessary for severely damaged housing. Resolving legal, administrative, and procedural issues. Fostering and maintaining ongoing contact with the large displaced population--particularly for any actions that might require owner authorization. It is necessary to maintain a systems-level perspective. Monitoring the progress in all key areas of environmental health and infrastructure is important because reinhabiting New Orleans depends on success in all areas. This initial assessment identified 13 key areas that need to be tracked. Resolving potential toxic chemical exposures is important. It is important to resolve the questions about the potential for toxic chemical exposure as quickly as possible. This issue has the widest degree of uncertainty. Officials should ensure public safety and security and worker health and safety. Maintain a central focus on public safety and recovery worker health and safety throughout the rebuilding of New Orleans. Engage and communicate with the displaced population. Develop a mechanism to regularly and substantively engage and communicate with the displaced population to provide a progress update on city-wide activities as well as activities related to neighborhoods and individual homes. This work could involve the use of GIS, the Internet, and other innovative strategies. Maintain a broad vision on issues affecting the rehabitation of the city. This initial assessment from the EH-NAHT focused on the immediate issues related to reinhabiting the city--primarily those issues that affect essential systems for safe living. As these immediate issues are dealt with, it will be important to focus on issues related to quality of life and social well-being and how they are integrated into a redevelopment plan. Create a long-term habitability strategy. The long-term solution to the risk of flooding and the viability of New Orleans depend on fully protective levee and unwatering systems for the population returning to and reinhabiting the city. It is extremely important to address the long-term protection of the city from another such event of this magnitude. Federal, state, and local agencies and relief organizations are responding heroically to the disaster. All organizations, including the agencies represented on this task force, should be doing their utmost to assist in recovery and rebuilding. These conclusions and recommendations are current at the time of writing. Because the situation is dynamic and changing daily, updates on various topics will be given periodically by various organizations. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you, Dr. Falk, and next witness is the Honorable John Paul Woodley, Jr., Assistant Secretary of the Army Civil Works. STATEMENT OF JOHN PAUL WOODLEY, JR. Mr. Woodley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, distinguished members of the subcommittee. I have a brief oral statement, and ask that my written statement be included in the record. Mr. Gillmor. It will be so included. Mr. Woodley. Today, I am here to provide a brief background update to the subcommittee on the environmental management techniques the Army Corps of Engineers is using during the ongoing unwatering, debris removal, and cleanup missions in the greater New Orleans area. Working with the city of New Orleans Water and Sewer Board, private contractors, and even some foreign governments, Mr. Chairman, the Corps continues to make steady progress on pumping out floodwaters from the city of New Orleans. The current estimate is that the city is more than 80 percent unwatered, but the overall unwatering estimated to be finished in early to mid-October, with a number of parishes actually completed by tomorrow. As the water drains to its final amounts, there may be more concentrated levels of contaminants that will require special attention and handling. The Corps is coordinating with EPA and State agencies regarding this possibility. An interagency technical group identified recommendations for preventive and remedial mitigation management actions during unwatering. The Corps has deployed booms at appropriate intake points, and I have a photograph of the boom deployed on the 17th Street Canal for the committee. The orange boom is the boom that is intended to collect the debris. The white and somewhat discolored boom is actually an absorbent boom that will absorb floating contaminants, and skim floating contaminants from the water. We have also deployed artificial aeration devices in the major channels. This is a photograph of that at the London Avenue Canal. This is intended to aerate the water, and provide treatment for low levels of dissolved oxygen and also provide the treatment benefits that aeration will provide. After suspending pumping operations during Hurricane Rita, the Corps resumed the aeration operations, and is coordinating with the U.S. Coast Guard to deploy additional booms, skimmers, and suction at pumping stations where oil has been observed. Based on input from EPA, as Deputy Secretary Peacock indicated, the Corps is also addressing bacteria, suspended solid, and petroleum in the storm water runoff. In support of FEMA, the states, and communities, the Corps is also conducting an extensive debris removal effort in the areas impacted by Hurricane Katrina. There is a very strong communication among Federal, state, and local agencies associated with this mission. The Corps also participates in a multi-agency working group established by the EPA to coordinate innovative debris management issues for recycling and reuse. With respect to household hazardous waste, the Corps and the EPA are assisting, collecting, and disposing of this material. Again, the Corps is working closely with State and Federal regulators on matters dealing with all types of debris, including contaminated debris. As public rights of way are cleared, and segregation of materials at curbside and staging areas gets in full swing, recycling will increasingly become a key component of debris strategy. Light goods, automobiles, marine vessels, and clean, woody debris should be common targets for recycling. Recycling can be effective in reducing the volume of debris, and reducing the impact on landfills. The Corps is implementing preventive management actions during pumping to minimize additional ecological impact during the balance of the unwatering effort, and also, is implementing remedial management actions into the receiving waters to continue to minimize ecological impacts of the floodwater discharge. And we will continue to work with EPA, State and local authorities to plan and manage potentially contaminated residuals following the first flush of the region following the rainfall. The current promising outlook for environment and health, human safety and health, would not be possible without the combined efforts of EPA, other Federal, state, and county agencies, as well as the Corps of Engineers. And Mr. Chairman, thank you very much for you, and to the subcommittee for the opportunity of appearing today. [The prepared statement of John Paul Woodley, Jr. follows:] Prepared Statement of John Paul Woodley, Jr., Assistant Secretary of the Army Civil Works, Department of the Army introduction Mr. Chairman and distinguished members of the subcommittee, I am John Paul Woodley, Jr., Assistant Secretary of the Army (Civil Works). I am honored to be testifying before your subcommittee today, on the environmental aspects of the United States Army Corps of Engineers' recovery activities related to Hurricane Katrina. My testimony today will provide a brief background and update the Subcommittee on the environmental management techniques the Corps of Engineers is using during the on-going unwatering and debris removal and cleanup missions in the greater New Orleans area. These efforts are a collaborative effort of the Corps of Engineers, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality, the Sewage and Water Boards, Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals and contractors to ensure impacts upon human and environmental well-being are minimized to the greatest extent possible. background The Corps of Engineers is doing everything it can to get the water out of New Orleans as quickly as possible, in an environmentally acceptable manner. Everyone is concerned about the quality of water being moved from New Orleans to Lake Pontchartrain, but the first priority is health and safety of residents of New Orleans and all responders as water is drained from the city. The Corps is working with the EPA, including its on-scene coordinator, and state agencies to ensure human health and safety. EPA is continually monitoring and testing the water. Corps of Engineers personnel in New Orleans and Baton Rouge are co-located with the EPA and the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality, and other state agencies since shortly after Katrina to facilitate close interaction and coordination. The headquarters and forward field offices of the Corps and EPA are fully engaged in this collaborative effort. status of unwatering mission Working with the city of New Orleans Water and Sewage Board, private contractors and even some foreign governments (Dutch and German dewatering teams), the Corps of Engineers continues to make steady progress on pumping out floodwaters from the city of New Orleans and immediate vicinity into Lake Pontchartrain. The current estimate is that the New Orleans area is more than 80 percent unwatered, with the overall unwatering effort estimated to be completed in early to mid- October, with a number of parishes completed by September 30th. As the water drains to its final amounts, there may be more concentrated levels of contaminants that will require special attention and handling. The Corps is coordinating with EPA and state agencies regarding this possibility. The unwatering effort will remove most, but not all the water. The remaining isolated pockets of water should not hamper recovery efforts such as debris removal, structural assessments and restoration of critical services. preventative and remedial management actions An interagency technical sub-group (water quality/ecosystem restoration management experts) collaboratively identified an array of recommendations for preventative and remedial mitigation management actions during unwatering for both inside and outside the levees. Inside the levees the Corps has deployed sorbent booms with sorbent skirts at appropriate intake points. There is a special management strategy for appropriate containment and treatment of HOT-SPOT areas identified by personnel on the ground as the water lowers. Though most of the City is dry, the Corps still is treating water in the three main canals, Orleans, London and 17th Street. The Corps has deployed artificial aeration devices in major channels to reduce biological oxygen demand (BOD) and support healthy dissolved oxygen concentrations in the water column. Two aerators in each of the three main channels draining to Lake Pontchartrain were strategically placed and operating successfully prior to Hurricane Rita and 20 more aerators are being placed in these and other strategic locations, even in the outfall areas of Lake Pontchartrain. More aerators also are being planned-- about an additional 20, or total of 40. After a suspension of pumping operations during Hurricane Rita the Corps has resumed the aeration operations, and are coordinating with the U.S. Coast Guard to deploy booms, skimmers, and suction at pumping stations where oil was observed. Based on input from EPA, the Corps is doing its best to address bacteria, suspended solids, and petroleum in storm water runoff. Options include more booms, silt screens, aerators, and possibly adding some mobile treatment plants. EPA and the Corps are formulating approaches to manage known and suspected areas of hazardous materials production and storage, and areas with contaminant sequestration materials such as flocculation, disinfection, and sorption. The Corps is working with EPA who is developing a comprehensive non-point source control program to manage the first flush of rainfall from contaminated residuals as well as developing and executing program to clean streets, canals, storm drains of contaminated residuals to minimize their flushing from receiving waters during rainfall events. This approach is being formulated collaboratively between the Corps and EPA to be coordinated with State and Local governments and water boards. In addition to the floodwaters, the EPA and State of Louisiana are sampling and monitoring the sediments left behind from the New Orleans floodwaters for possible contaminants and infectious agents. Appropriate sampling and analysis are critical to effective evaluation and characterization to assure proper handling and disposal. The Corps and its contractors are working closely with the EPA and the state of Louisiana to assure that this is achieved in a safe manner. water quality results EPA emergency response personnel are working in partnership with FEMA and state and local agencies and the Corps to help assess the test results and evaluate health and environmental conditions related to water quality from Hurricane Katrina. In emergency situations such as this, EPA serves as the lead Agency for water quality including the cleanup of hazardous materials such as oil and gasoline. EPA national and regional Emergency Operations Centers are currently activated 24 hours a day. The Corps has employees embedded with the EPA/LDEQ team in Baton Rouge and onsite teams locally in New Orleans for rapid and effective communication regarding water quality issues. More than 190 water quality data parameters are constantly being updated, reviewed and validated through an EPA quality assurance process to ensure scientific accuracy. Fuel oils, as they are encountered, are being skimmed by floating booms or other pick-up mechanisms as monitored by the Corps, EPA, LDEQ and Coast Guard, but contact with fuels and oils absorbed onto sediment is always a possibility. With any of these water quality constituents, it is recommended that contact with the area water be avoided, and if contact is made, use soap and water to clean areas and remove contaminated clothing. The Corps teams in the field and at the Baton Rouge office will continue to follow interagency guidance and accepted doctrine and continue working collaboratively with the entire suite of human health agencies to respond to health and human safety issues. The Corps will follow OSHA/CDC guidance pertaining to human health and safety risk associated with New Orleans floodwaters, sediment and related microbial issues and continues to operate in the field under that guidance and its internal guidance for emergency work zones. debris management plan In support of FEMA, the states and localities, the Corps is conducting a comprehensive debris removal effort in the areas impacted by Hurricane Katrina. There is very strong interagency communication between the federal agencies, states and local agencies both vertically and horizontally. Additionally, the Corps is a participant in a multi- agency working group established by the EPA that meets twice weekly to coordinate innovative debris management issues such as recycling and reuse. That working group also includes state and private non-profit and for profit entities. An output of this coordination is management plans (by state) for hazardous materials and other debris. With respect to household hazardous waste, while the collection and disposal of this material is an Emergency Support Function (ESF)-10 task, it is being conducted by both the Corps and EPA. We expect that most hazardous and toxic waste will consist of containers filled with fuel oil and propane tanks, containers of unidentified material, paint, pesticides, spoiled food, freon removal and batteries. The Corps is working closely with state and federal regulators on all matters dealing with all types of debris including contaminated debris As public rights of way are cleared and segregation of materials at curbside and at staging areas gets in full swing, the Corps realizes that recycling will increasingly become a key component of the debris strategy. White goods, automobiles, marine vessels, and, in areas not impacted by the Formosan Termite, clean woody debris should be common targets for recycling. Recycling can be effective in reducing the volume of debris and reducing the impact on landfills. closing The Corps is implementing preventative management actions during pumping inside the levees to minimize additional ecological impact during the balance of the unwatering effort. The Corps also is implementing remedial management actions in the receiving waters to continue to minimize the ecological impacts of the discharge of flood waters. The Corps of Engineers is seeking a balance between pumping all the water out of the city and minimizing ecological impacts during the unwatering process. Strategies are being developed by the Corps and EPA to manage the post-pump down flushes of potential pollutants and potentially contaminated residuals. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers appreciates the tremendous cooperation of the EPA, Coast Guard, Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality and other local officials and agencies to carry out all of our public works missions under Emergency Support Function #3. The current promising outlook for the environment and human safety and health would not be possible without the combined efforts of all that were mentioned. This concludes my statement. Again, I appreciate the opportunity to testify today. I would be pleased to answer any questions you may have. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you very much, Mr. Woodley. And also, we, at this hearing, as we always do, are probably going to run out of time for questions. I would appreciate it if you would be willing to answer any questions in writing that might be submitted later. Thank you. Mr. Woodley. Delighted. Mr. Gillmor. We have been joined by the chairman of the full committee, the gentleman from Texas, Mr. Barton, for questions. Chairman Barton. Thank you, Chairman Gillmor, and I will say at the outset that I think this is one of the most important hearings of all the hearings we are going to do on the aftermath of Katrina and Rita, because this directly impacts public health, and it is not the sexiest hearing, but I think it is one of the most important hearings. I want to thank you three gentlemen for being here, and the other panelists in the second panel. My first question would be to Mr. Peacock and also to Dr. Falk. Given what we know today about the status of the contaminants in the water that is in the flood areas, or the areas that have been flooded, are there any long-lasting, negative health effects of those areas, once the waters recede? Mr. Peacock. Well, Dr. Falk, I will let you, perhaps, grab that first. Mr. Falk. You know, I think there are several factors we have to consider. The potential for any long-term effects depends on the degree of exposure, and I think it is very important, as we work through this process, to assess carefully exactly what the exposures are, and how significant they are. So first off, there is the issue of the floodwaters, which have contained, as Deputy Administrator Peacock pointed out, bacteria from sewage, and it has contained some chemicals, and then, there is material in the sediments as that dries out, and I think it is particularly important to think of how long people will be exposed to those sediments. Are those readily cleaned up, so that the exposures are short-lived, and in which case, they would not be, you know, as significant for the long term? But I think also, one has to think of the broad area sampling, that there are a lot of neighborhoods in an area such as New Orleans. There are maybe localized exposures from submerged sites, and I think it is important to actually fully assess the area, and determine whether there are significant exposures on an ongoing basis. So I think from what we have seen so far, I don't think we would be able to say that there are definite long-term effects, but I think it is important both for us in assessing, and for everybody who lives there, to be reassured that that sampling be comprehensive, that it fully look at, particularly in areas where there might have been localized exposures, for example, a Superfund site. We really have to look at this, I think, in an intelligent fashion, to make sure there aren't ongoing, persistent exposures that affect people for the long term. Chairman Barton. Dr. Peacock. Mr. Peacock. Yes, Emily, if you could put up the flood sampling map, where the samples have been taken. Dr. Falk touched on the important issues. There has been a lot of sampling of the floodwaters done, but the fact of the matter is, in any particular instance, you may have contaminants that may have not been caught by the sampling. Also, you can see this is based on a scientific sampling method where we not only try and get a representative sample, but also focus on particular sites where we think there may be a problem. But you can see that, by no means, is the entire area covered. We may not know the chronic effects for quite some time. Chairman Barton. Okay. Is there anything that we need to do at the Federal level, in terms of reestablishing safe drinking water supplies, in terms of special funds for new purification plants, or anything like that? Mr. Peacock. Well, right now--and Emily, if you would put the drinking water plant map up. I am not sure the chairman was here to see that. All those dots represent drinking water plants. The green dots are plants we know are operational. These were plants in the swath of Hurricane Katrina, but the red dots and the yellow dots are plants where we know there is a problem, or where we don't know whether things are right. And in each of those cases, there is a team of people, including EPA and State and local officials. I know CDC and the Corps of Engineers send teams of people to each of these plants to do assessments, and it is not just the plant, but it also includes the distribution system, and it is going to be very difficult to figure out what the needs are until those assessments are done. And I think the time period for that is measured more in weeks than it is in days. Chairman Barton. My final question is to Mr. Woodley. I am told that back in the early 1960's, Congress has approved the Corps to build a hurricane-barrier project across Lake Pontchartrain, and that got held up by some environmental lawsuits. Finally, the Corps just gave up on it, but that had been project been completed, it has at least been alleged that we wouldn't have had the flooding in New Orleans. Can you comment on that? Mr. Woodley. Mr. Chairman, there was litigation concerning an original 1960's-era plan, that was advanced by the Corps of Engineers, and there was an injunction issued by the Federal Court in New Orleans against elements of that plan, which included a hurricane barrier, or storm surge barrier at the mouth, or the outlets of Lake Pontchartrain. Subsequent to that time, for that reason, and also, because of very substantial local opposition that existed, that element of the plan was rejected, and a new plan formulated that called for higher levees along the shore of Lake Pontchartrain. Chairman Barton. But if that plan had been implemented, has the Corps or anybody else modeled what would have happened with this hurricane? Mr. Woodley. No, sir. We have not. And---- Chairman Barton. Is that something you could do? Mr. Woodley. I believe that that is something that---- Chairman Barton. If this committee---- Mr. Woodley. [continuing] could be done. Chairman Barton. [continuing] directed that it be done. Mr. Woodley. I believe that that is within our capability of modeling the effect of that, the storm that would, that occurred on a hypothetical system of that nature. I believe that could be done, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Barton. My time has expired. I thank the Chairman. Mr. Gillmor. The gentleman from Texas, Mr. Green. Mr. Green. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Falk, first, I would like to thank both the CDC and the HHS, because it was amazing in Houston when we first received 150,000-plus evacuees from Louisiana, and the effort on the ground from the CDC, and also, from the Public Health Service. I just couldn't tell you how many I met. It seemed like it was a couple dozen of folks, both at the quick medical facility at the Reliant Arena area, and then, later on, at the George R. Brown a couple days later. One of my concerns that day was we found out that the folks that were being triaged, because again, Houston area had no idea who was on the buses, or what illnesses they had, is the vaccinations that we were doing, you know, when people came off those buses, any kind of vaccines to protect both the evacuees, but also, for the medical personnel that were there trying to treat them. And is there a certain list that you know of, or what vaccinations you consider most important, both for the evacuees, but also for the workers in the shelters and those on the ground, affected even those folks who were still, are in the New Orleans area? Mr. Falk. Thank you very much, and I know Dr. Gerberding spoke to the Health Subcommittee last Thursday, and she has spoken to much of the CDC effort on the public health response, and broadly is supporting the shelters, the local medical facilities, and the guidelines. I think, in particular, the greatest concern, I know for all of us who went there, we all had to have, you know, diphtheria, tetanus shots, and so Dr. Gerberding, I think, has testified to that, and spoke exactly to those recommendations. Mr. Green. Because I wasn't here. I actually went home---- Mr. Falk. Yes. Mr. Green. [continuing] to prepare for Rita. Mr. Falk. Yes. Mr. Green. I know tetanus was the biggest concern, but---- Mr. Falk. Right. That is the main concern, and I think in selected areas, there have been questions about hepatitis, but I think it has been particularly in terms of the tetanus. And I could get back to you exactly the guidance that they use in all of the shelters. Mr. Green. Okay. I would appreciate it. Mr. Falk. We have had, I think, roughly 500-plus people from CDC, ATSDR, that have participated in those various efforts across the Gulf Coast region. Mr. Green. I have to admit, I wanted to clone that clinic that was put together on a day's notice at both facilities, and move it into our district, because I was impressed at both locally and all our hospital systems, and medical schools, and again, the Federal effort from the CDC and the Public Health Service. Mr. Woodley, I mentioned in my opening statement about our experience with Rita with water plants, and of course, I know in Mississippi and Louisiana, it was much worse, because our problem was the electricity to the reservoir, that they couldn't send the water, you know, to Baytown, and ultimately, to the residents and the industry. Does the Corps work directly with this critical infrastructure? In fact, I think the Wallisville Reservoir is originally a Corps project, and if so, what steps does the Corps go through to respond to problems like we saw with this, and again, it is probably magnified so much more in the Louisiana and Mississippi area? Mr. Woodley. Yes, sir. We have the mission under the National Response Plan to provide temporary emergency power for critical infrastructure. Mr. Green. Do you have to get anybody's permission to do that? Local, State officials, or even FEMA? Mr. Woodley. Yes, sir. We produce, or we perform that mission under the direction of FEMA and in cooperation with the local emergency management agencies and local authorities. Mr. Green. Mr. Chairman, I would hope that we might be able to somehow speed that decisionmaking along, because one of our problems we found was that the local community, for example, the mayor, the city manager had to go to the State, and the State was dealing with such a big issue, but somehow, we can short circuit that process that you have to go through, so the Corps could actually be more responsive, and I know you want to be, but you still have to go through everything that is required, and I would hope one of the things we learn out of this is we need to short circuit some of the bureaucracy, so the people who can actually get the job done have that opportunity to get out there, without 3 or 4 or 5 days delay. And I would assume the mayor from Mississippi, and I apologize for him having to sit through the first panel, but I know that is the frustration that my local community feels, and again, we weren't devastated near--our problems are nowhere near what Mississippi and Louisiana did. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you. I have a question for Mr. Peacock. There have been some stories in the press stating that the EPA Administrator, Mr. Johnson, has said that the agency does not need any other authority to respond to the disaster in the Gulf Course, or the Coast, or the situation that is created, but there have been some other press articles suggesting that, in fact, EPA would be seeking some additional authority. Could you tell me what the position of the agency and the administration is as to whether you need additional legislative authority? Mr. Peacock. Sir, absolutely, Mr. Chairman. Not long after the hurricane hit, we started looking at, particularly given its scope and its unprecedented impact, started looking at whether or not there were any legislative barriers to getting our work done. And we continue that effort. We have not offered, or sent up, any legislative changes or additional authorities that we think we need yet, but we continue to review whether or not that may be necessary. Mr. Gillmor. Well, along that line, let me ask you, after the activities of September 11, Congress created specific legislative authority to help EPA guide drinking water, utilities, in getting ready to prevent and respond to terrorism activities. My question is, do you have similar direct authority you can draw on for natural disasters, like a hurricane, a tornado, or do you rely on just cobbling together authorities under various provisions? Mr. Peacock. Yes, I think you are probably referring to the Water Sentinel Program, which helps in assessments, first of all, and then helps local water authorities determine ways to protect water supply sources, and drinking water plants. I am not aware of any similar authority for natural disasters, but I can certainly double check on that and get back to you. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Dr. Falk, what are your recommendations for State and local officials, with respect to health and safety issues, as they consider allowing residents back into New Orleans or other areas, and how do you go about communicating those recommendations? Mr. Falk. So, we feel that there are a number of factors that have to be considered, and this is a very complex environmental situation, where there are issues with drinking water, sewage treatment, chemicals and sediments, housing issues, mold, and debris removal, and so on. So, I think first off, you know, there is a sense, for say in local officials, you have to consider the group of these various effects at, you know, the decisions about return and so on are not based on a single criterion, or a single issue. One really has to make sure that the complex number of services that are sort of necessary for urban living, or whatever, really are met. So, in that sense, we try to emphasize going through the series of issues and actually making sure that they are all addressed. Second, the conditions vary. For example, within New Orleans, they vary from one part of the city to the next, and so, we have emphasized this is not like a single decision for a whole metropolitan area, but this really has to be done, in a sense, neighborhood by neighborhood, area by area, as the conditions differ from site to site. So, and we have, you know, tried to emphasize approaching it systematically, for the different environmental issues, and addressing those, and approaching that by the particular areas, and the particular problems that are represented in each area. Through EPA and ourselves and others, we have tried to set up a Federal effort whereby we can discuss between the agencies how we collectively come up with information on those areas, and provide that technical input up the chain at the Federal level, and working with our colleagues at the State and local levels, so we are trying to share information that we have, and provide technical input, and make sure that we are able to convey whatever information we have that would be helpful. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you. One more question for EPA, Mr. Peacock. One of the sadder stories of the elevated lead concentrations we had in drinking water in the District of Columbia, was how badly the City Water and Sewer Administration had bungled its public outreach efforts, particularly threat communication and water testing and water purifying kits. You had mentioned that EPA is trying to both communicate information and distribute water testing kits in the affected parishes in Louisiana. Would you be able to tell us what parishes and how many, and what EPA is doing to program for threat communication and kit testing? Mr. Peacock. Yes. And actually, a lot of this work is being done by EPA and the state. Once again, there is just a very close relationship there. I know there were, and this information is now a few days old, so I will have to update it for you, there were at least 700 test kits that were handed out. There were also purification tablets for people who had private wells, which I believe the State gave to people. The interesting aspect of this is one of the lessons learned from 9/11 is to improve risk communication, and particularly, try and reach the people that need to get the information. We are now communicating through AM and FM radio, by going door to door, handing out flyers, and working through neighborhood networks such as churches, local school districts, and other means, to try and reach people. But Mr. Chairman, I can get the detailed information regarding test kits to you after the hearing. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you very much. The gentlelady from California. Ms. Capps. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Falk, I have two questions for you, and one for you, Mr. Peacock, so of necessity, I would hope that your answers would be brief. The emergency responders, Dr. Falk, to Hurricane Katrina, have been and will continue to be exposed to extremely dangerous environments since the first day of rescue operations, wading through contaminated waters filled with sewage and hazardous materials. Following 9/11, the Federal Government created a medical monitoring program for responders to the World Trade Center tragedy. Last week, I asked Director Gerberding if the CDC will be setting up a long-term monitoring program for responders to Katrina. She expressed openness to such a program, but indicated they have not taken any steps in that direction. I would ask you, does ATSDR intend to create a health registry for first responders? Mr. Falk. I think in terms of Dr. Gerberding's response, clearly over the last several weeks, there has been a large effort on the part of NIOSH, the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, which is a part of CDC, to provide guidance for emergency response workers and others in the area. Ms. Capps. I am talking about a registry. Mr. Falk. Right. And as she said, then, they have not made any decisions in terms of a registry. Ms. Capps. And that is still the case? Mr. Falk. And I think, in terms of ATSDR, we primarily work around hazardous waste sites, particularly with the communities, and the active work at CDC that relates to workers is really done through the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health. So, I think the most likely place where that would be considered would be where the occupational safety and health expertise is located, and that would be probably at the NIOSH portion, so that is where that is likely to be considered. Ms. Capps. Okay. Next question. The Joint Taskforce, Dr. Falk, on Environmental Health Needs and Habitability Assessment, issued on September 17, 2005, was a useful and helpful document on understanding the issues related to the Katrina response. One of the key issues identified that affects the rate at which New Orleans can be re-inhabited is the testing of potentially contaminated soil. The report calls for, ``a comprehensive sampling and testing of a broad array of toxic material, that will be required to identify any widespread contamination of selected hotspots.'' In your opinion, is there a comprehensive sampling and testing plan that is fully funded, either yours, or one that you know of? Mr. Falk. I think that at this point, we are working closely with the EPA. We are evaluating the information so far. We are looking at the sampling plans, and I think Deputy Administrator Peacock has described, you know, their development of sampling plans, and having them reviewed. We are in the process of working with them on the sampling plan. Ms. Capps. Okay. Mr. Falk. So, my hope is that we will, you know, we will be able to answer that question. Ms. Capps. So the answer is no right now. And like, I am thinking of a specific citizen or a family. Mr. Falk. Right. Right. Ms. Capps. They don't know yet whether it is actually, literally, safe to return to their neighborhoods without short or long-term health effects? Mr. Falk. I think that is something we are all working on now, and you know, it has only been so recently that some of the areas of New Orleans, for example, have been unwatered. Ms. Capps. And they are returning. Okay, Mr. Peacock. Under statutes like the Solid Waste Disposal Act and Superfund, the EPA is charged with protecting public health. In the face of widespread oil and hazardous chemical release and contaminated sediments in neighborhoods, is it EPA's responsibility to protect the citizens' health? I am looking for---- Mr. Peacock. You are talking about a specific statute. I see. I see. If they are---- Ms. Capps. I am looking for primary responsibility. I just asked Dr. Falk similar kind of questions. Who is in charge? Mr. Peacock. If you are looking at a person who wants to reoccupy---- Ms. Capps. Yes. Mr. Peacock. [continuing] New Orleans, and who is protecting them. There are three layers of protection. There is the mayor. There is the Governor. And then, there is Thad Allen, all of whom are located in New Orleans, and have daily discussions regarding whether or not a particular--and the mayor is using zip code areas--whether or not a particular zip code area can, for instance, have businessmen come in on a daily basis, or perhaps, have residents come in on a daily basis. Ms. Capps. Well, now, I have heard, and this is only anecdotal, but evacuees have reported that they are getting different information from different officials, and from the EPA. So---- Mr. Peacock. Well, I hope that is not the case. One of the reasons those three people are in such close contact is to make sure they are all on the same page. The mayor, as you probably know, published a plan late yesterday, and we have, across agencies, it is not just EPA and the CDC, have been helping the mayor evaluate environmental and other endpoints in those particular zip codes. And there is an updated assessment, I think it was issued, that was given to the mayor last night, which I would be happy to provide to you. I hope you have the impression there is a systematic process-- -- Ms. Capps. Right. Mr. Peacock. [continuing] for looking across these areas. Ms. Capps. I guess that, first of all, I don't have a clear answer as to whether the sample is complete, or if there is a registry---- Mr. Peacock. I think I can help you with that, if, for instance, for the sediment sampling, these are where we have taken samples. There is a sampling plan in place. Ms. Capps. Is there a result? Mr. Peacock. Yes. And if you go, for instance, on our website, and hit sediment samples, you will get the raw data. And---- Ms. Capps. Right. It doesn't tell the citizen if it is safe. Who is going to interpret the data, and issue a report saying it is---- Mr. Peacock. That is up to the local health official and the city's office, to determine whether or not a particular house or room or neighborhood is safe for someone to go back into. I mean, for instance, EPA, regardless of floods in the past, has never gone into a particular neighborhood, house, property, state, commercial property, and said it is safe to go back in. Ms. Capps. Mr. Chairman, I know I am going over time, but could I finish this line of questioning? I just want to find out, the mayor, you have the capability of analyzing, between the Corps---- Mr. Peacock. Yes, and actually, the Corps and others. Ms. Capps. And the Corps is--well, the three of you are here because of expertise in sampling, creating data bases---- Mr. Peacock. Correct. Ms. Capps. [continuing] and information. I understand---- Mr. Peacock. Yes. Ms. Capps. [continuing] that the dispensing of it and issuing the--yes, you can come, or no, you shouldn't, and here is why. Somebody else needs to do that, but---- Mr. Peacock. Right. Ms. Capps. [continuing] how does the mayor, does he have access to your data? Is someone informing him---- Mr. Peacock. Yes, now this---- Ms. Capps. [continuing] on a regular basis? Mr. Peacock. [continuing] is the zip code assessment group Henry was referring to in his testimony. There is a group of individuals down in New Orleans, Federal officials who, by zip code, are assessing--it is currently six key areas; it is going to be 13 key areas. And that information is provided to Thad Allen, who then provides it to the mayor and to the state. Ms. Capps. And advises them, so that there is one, so there shouldn't be confusing information? Mr. Peacock. There should not be confusing information. Ms. Capps. They should know to whom they can go and that they can trust that this has been fully vetted information---- Mr. Peacock. That is right. In fact---- Ms. Capps. [continuing] and substantiated. Mr. Peacock. [continuing] we make sure any of the information we provide goes through a rather rigorous, as Henry would say, a quality assurance and quality control process. Ms. Capps. Okay. Now, I guess one final question, and this isn't your job, but we need to find out how the public knows how to do this, how they, and all of us have to, even though we are just in the background, we have to take responsibility that these affects people's lives. Mr. Peacock. Right. Ms. Capps. And so, how is it getting to the public? Mr. Peacock. Well, I can only speak for the Federal level-- and Emily, if you can show just the EPA advisories--I mean, these are a list of advisories, announcements, EPA has done, often in coordination with CDC, and once again, we tend to use radio, we tend to use flyers, we have gone door to door. Of course, we have a website, but a lot of people don't have access to it. Ms. Capps. And you are doing that part---- Mr. Peacock. We do have a crosslink, for instance, to CDC. All of these advisories, for instance, are on our website, and we have provided the information through, once again, press announcements and radio. Ms. Capps. So you are telling citizens what to do. Mr. Peacock. Yes, that is exactly right. Ms. Capps. But you just said you don't. Mr. Peacock. No, we are telling people, for instance, if someone is going to go into their home, we provide caution, in terms of what they should look out for in their home. But in terms of defining whether or not it is safe to go into a particular house or neighborhood, we are not going to be doing that. Ms. Capps. Boy. Somebody is going to have to do that. Mr. Peacock. Well, the only person who can lift an evacuation is the person who has the power to put it in place, and that is the mayor, and perhaps the Governor. I know less about the State authorities. Mr. Gillmor. The gentleman from Pennsylvania. Mr. Murphy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I would like to thank the panel for being here on this important issue. I want to do a little follow-up on the question the gentlelady from California was just asking. And that has to do with, when someone is returning to their home, what would be the checklist that you advise people to be aware of, what they--let us say, just want to go there to get some belongings, at least. What checklist do you want them to keep in mind as they are approaching that, whoever would--Dr. Falk? Mr. Falk. Let me start by saying that I think for all of us, in addition to headquarters people that are involved, we have a number of staff who are in New Orleans, who are in the State of Louisiana, who are trying to work closely with the Louisiana public health officials and with the New Orleans public health officials in those areas. So as they approach this on an area-by-area, neighborhood- by-neighborhood, or zip-code approach, specific guidance is developed for people going in, and I think that the staff that we have in the field are trying to work closely with the local officials in preparing that. So there is guidance that is given out to people as they come back to those areas. Mr. Murphy. That is not something that you would necessarily recommend, but let the locals give that guidance onsite? Mr. Falk. Well, I think we are trying hard to make sure that the local people will give that guidance on the site, but we are trying to work with them, and provide the---- Mr. Peacock. Yes. The mayor's plan for reoccupation, which was issued, I think, late yesterday, includes a long list, it is really, you can look at it, it is a checklist of things for citizens to be careful of. Make sure they bring water, for instance, things like that, and that was informed by information provided by the Federal partners and the state. Mr. Murphy. Well, then let me step back, and then, say, from your standpoint, so you are not--let us take it from a broader perspective. With all that standing water in the region with chemicals in it, what chemicals are we seeing there? Is there any evidence of problems with exposure to that? Mr. Peacock. The main problem, particularly with the standing floodwaters, is the bacterial contamination, E. coli and coliforms, which are indicative of what you would find in raw sewage. It is a serious problem, and people should avoid the water if they can. There have been, in particular places, and once again, these are the floodwater sampling sites, where there have been elevated levels of chemicals, and in some, I think we have detected, of the over 100 chemicals, 47. In a number of cases, lead, for instance, and arsenic, both have exceeded drinking water assessment levels. Now, those levels are set for someone who is drinking a fair amount of water every day, and so, definitely nobody should be drinking the floodwater. What the long-term effects of those chemicals are is more of a question mark, but the main point is no one should be in contact with the floodwater, particularly because of the possibility of bacterial infection. Would you agree with that, Dr. Falk? Mr. Falk. Yes, and in addition, I think, for example, in New Orleans, the health department itself has been severely impacted by this whole disaster, and there is a lot of support coming from CDC, Health and Human Services, EPA, and---- Mr. Murphy. Do we have sufficient support to monitor? No? Mr. Falk. Sufficient support on the field, and to help assist in various ways. So there are occupational safety and health experts, say, from NIOSH and CDC, who are helping prepare guidance for workers and emergency responders there. Mr. Murphy. Are you also looking for particular groups who may be at risk, pregnant mother, the elderly, people with certain disease entities? Mr. Falk. Yes, and I think in the first wave, we are, you know, the mayor's guidance has been children and elderly are probably not appropriate for the first people who are going in, and so, I think that is probably very critical. You know, in a sense, if there is guidance, for example, that we don't have potable water, people can't use the water in their tap for drinking. They have to use bottled water, boiled water, and so on, you can't expect small children, maybe elderly, who might be confused, to follow. So I think you have to tailor these recommendations, and I think we have all been trying to work with the local officials in developing that kind of guidance. Mr. Murphy. Let me ask one other area, and that is, as people go back to their homes, and even though there are standing floodwaters, but as those subside, mold in the houses. What sort of risks do we see with that? Mr. Falk. Well, mold is a very critical area, particularly in New Orleans, but I am sure in many other areas along the Gulf Coast. Homes that have had standing water for some period of time, there is extensive amounts of mold, and far greater than we have probably seen in most any other situation. So, I think the guidance, you know, for dealing with mold is very critical, in terms of protection of skin surfaces, in terms of respiratory protection. We just yesterday did a teleconference, you know, for guidance on that. We have been working very much with the local officials on assuring available information for people as they enter the city on the appropriate ways to work with mold, and when it is not appropriate to do it, and if they are exposed to the mold, how they should do it, and the kind of respiratory protection they should have. So, I think that is really very critical. And we are also very concerned that people who have preexisting respiratory disease or asthma not be the persons doing the primary work on mold. There are people who will certainly be more sensitive to the mold, that really need extra precautions. So, we try to convey that kind of information, how to approach those areas, who should and who should not, what kind of protection, gloves, skin covering, and respiratory protection for people who do do this, and for homeowners who are going back and then, particularly, for emergency responders or construction workers on the occupationsite, who may be doing far more extensive work with the mold. So that is a very critical point for us, in terms of developing guidance, that we are doing together with the local officials. Mr. Murphy. Thank you, Doctor, and thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Gillmor. Thank you, and that will conclude our first panel, and once again, I want to express my appreciation to all of you for your help. Thank you. We will now proceed to our second panel, and to begin that, I will be turning the Chair over to the gentleman from New Hampshire, Mr. Bass, and we will get underway. Mr. Bass [presiding]. Good afternoon. We are pleased to have the second panel here, and the following individuals are going to be testifying before the committee. Ms. Karen Gautreaux, who is up on the video in front of us here, Deputy Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality in Baton Rouge. To her left on the screen, but obviously not physically, Mr. William Rutledge, who is the mayor of the city of Pontotoc. Is that correct? On behalf of the National Rural Water Association, Dr. Stephen Ragone, Director of Science and Technology, accompanied by Dr. John H. Schnieders, Member of the National Ground Water Association. Mr. Erik Olson, in the center here, Senior Attorney of the Natural Resources Defense Council. Ms. Beverly Wright, Executive Director of Xavier University of Louisiana, and Mr. Robert R. M. Verchick, Gauthier-St. Martin Eminent Scholar, Chair in Environmental Law, Loyola University New Orleans. Is that you in the screen, sir? The screen on the left, are you Mr. Rutledge? Okay. Good enough. Thank you. Mr. Rutledge. Yes, sir. Right here. Mr. Bass. I saw the Tulane sign behind you. I want to advise members that we are expecting votes around 3:45 this afternoon, so we will proceed as quickly as possible with our testimony. I hope that you will confine your remarks to 5 minutes, and submit your record, which we will accept by unanimous consent, your full testimony for the record. We will begin with Karen Gautreaux. Would you please proceed? STATEMENTS OF KAREN K. GAUTREAUX, DEPUTY SECRETARY, LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY; WILLIAM RUTLEDGE, MAYOR, CITY OF PONTOTOC, ON BEHALF OF NATIONAL RURAL WATER ASSOCIATION; STEPHEN E. RAGONE, DIRECTOR OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, ACCOMPANIED BY JOHN H. SCHNIEDERS, MEMBER, NATIONAL GROUND WATER ASSOCIATION; ERIK D. OLSON, SENIOR ATTORNEY, NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL; BEVERLY WRIGHT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, XAVIER UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA, DEEP SOUTH CENTER FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE; AND ROBERT R.M. VERCHICK, GAUTHIER-ST. MARTIN EMINENT SCHOLAR, CHAIR IN ENVIRONMENTAL LAW, LOYOLA UNIVERSITY, NEW ORLEANS Ms. Gautreaux. Thank you, Mr. Bass, and good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and ladies and gentlemen of the subcommittee. I am Karen Gautreaux, Deputy Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality, and I want to thank you all very much for allowing us to participate in this hearing, and especially for allowing us to do so by teleconference. Exactly 1 month ago today, Hurricane Katrina made landfall in Buras, Louisiana, and forever changed the physical, cultural, and economic landscape of our state, as well as delivering severe blows to our neighbors to the east in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. Last Sunday, Hurricane Rita made landfall in the western side of the State in Cameron Parish, severely impacting that portion of our coast, as well as areas that had previously escaped the wrath of Katrina. Our neighbors in Texas who had been kind enough to send 24 members of a strike team to assist us had to return home and continue their response efforts in their own state. No part of the Gulf Coast has remained untouched this hurricane season. Today, I will limit my remarks to our Hurricane Katrina assessment and response efforts to date, as this is the focus of your hearing. First, I would like to share with you an observation about Hurricane Katrina that has been repeated by experienced emergency responders from our staff and those of other State and Federal agency partners. Simply, they have seen nothing like it. The magnitude and diversity of the environmental challenges presented by this storm have not been seen before in the United States. I will attempt to give a brief overview of those challenges, how they are being addressed, and actions anticipated in the future. One of the first things our department and our agency partners did in order to best position themselves to assess and respond to storm impacts was to establish and house a Unified Command Center at LDEQ headquarters in Baton Rouge. This center includes representatives from our staff, a large contingency from the U.S. EPA, the Army Corps of Engineers, the Coast Guard, U.S. Geological Survey, NOAA, the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, the Louisiana Oil Spill Coordinators Office, and the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals. Local government has also been involved. These representatives are coordinating emergency response, hazard assessment, and environmental sampling and planning activities. We better recognize the value of that coordination in the degree of readiness that we have experienced in response to Hurricane Rita. One of the key differences between the aftermath of Katrina and other hurricanes was the continued presence of floodwaters in the storm-impacted area. Because much of the area in New Orleans is below sea level, water that falls or enters the city must evaporate or be pumped out. As a result of the breaches and overtopping of the flood protection systems, namely floodwalls and levees, approximately 80 percent of the New Orleans area and some of Jefferson Parish remained flooded until the failed parts of the flood protection system could be patched and those areas pumped out. This led to the floodwater bowl that you may have heard referred to in the lowest elevations of the city, where water sat for weeks. Hurricane Rita re-flooded the areas that had most recently been dewatered. In St. Bernard and Plaquemines Parishes, low-lying areas also suffered from overtopping and breaches of the levee system, leaving them basically at sea level and subject to the tides until the levees could be repaired and the dewatered, now for the second time. The areas north of Lake Pontchartrain experienced high winds and flooding, and although the damage was significant, in general, those areas are recovering more quickly than Southeast Louisiana. I will briefly go through a few of the results of the first month's assessment and response activities--again this is the first month--and mention issues that are being addressed, and those that will continue to be priorities for the future. First, the waters in the bowl in Orleans and Jefferson Parishes: this water flooded homes, businesses, streets, wastewater treatment facilities, and drinking water systems. Initially DEQ and many of our agency partners, especially EPA, focused on search and rescue. As people were trapped by the floodwaters, and search and rescue efforts were hampered by access, dewatering the area was an urgent public health and safety priority. The decision was made to pump the floodwaters to Lake Pontchartrain. EPA and DEQ coordinated sampling efforts, excuse me, to characterize the floodwaters, and measure the potential short- and long-term environmental impacts to the lake. EPA sampled the floodwaters, and as DEQ had a good deal of historical water-quality information on Lake Pontchartrain, we took responsibility for sampling in the lake and in two canals that are sites in the State's ambient water quality program. USGS is currently sampling for bacteria in the lake, and all the results are being shared by the agencies and are available on the Internet. To date, the sampling has revealed that the floodwaters had characteristics common to most urban storm water events, with contaminants of concern being high levels of fecal coliform bacteria and levels of lead that would be a health concern if a child were to ingest a liter of the floodwater a day for 6 years every day. These results are not surprising in an area with a flooded wastewater treatment system, submerged vehicles with lead batteries, and older flooded structures with lead paint. I would like to mention that Lake Pontchartrain is not a drinking water source for any community; it is a salty upstream lake. Early results of the lake sampling indicate common water quality impacts caused by vegetative debris thrown into the water by hurricane winds and storm surge. This has caused low dissolved oxygen and fish killed in Northshore streams feeding into Lake Pontchartrain. Fecal coliform bacteria counts are slightly elevated in some of these areas as a result of flooded sewage treatment facilities, flooding of urban sewage lines, and flooding of pastures. Organic compound sampling and analysis has shown mostly non-detect results. Where detected, concentrations have not exceeded water quality standards. Metals have been below water quality standards, with the exception of one sample taken from a New Orleans drainage canal. In general, Lake Pontchartrain is maintaining good water quality, and the impacts to the lake have been minimal. We are hopeful that the lake will be back to normal within months, not years, but we will be monitoring for years to come to ensure that is the case. More detail has been provided here to particularly address the concern about the so- called toxic soup being dumped into the lake. The floodwaters were unhealthy, but to date, results show this to be an inaccurate and alarmist characterization. Initial sediment samples in the flooded areas indicate that there are no acute health issues that would be expected from the concentration of compounds to date. A summary of the sediment sampling results is included for the record, and sample results are available on the EPA website. The results of 23 air toxic and particulate canister samples in the storm-impacted area have also been encouraging. One sample taken near a fire in New Orleans contained 56 parts per billion benzene, the ATSDR minimum risk level is 50. Three canisters in St. Bernard Parish showed slightly elevated levels of benzene and some other related pollutants, but none exceeded the ATSDR/MRL screening levels in the hydrocarbon profile resembled gasoline and diesel. The sample was taken in an area impacted by a spill. A summary of the air sampling results is also attached to your record. Of great concern are the impacts of a number of oil spills resulting from Katrina. Currently, five major and five minor oil spills are the subject of response efforts. It is estimated that over 6.5 million gallons of oil have been released into the environment, with more spills expected as pipelines and facilities resume operations. Over 2.5 million gallons of oil have been recovered as of September 28, with the Coast Guard and LOSCO being the lead agencies in that effort. One major priority is the reestablishment of the large wastewater treatment plants. Out of the 25 in this area, five are now inoperable. The Orleans Eastbank System, alone, was capable of treating 144 million gallons of wastewater per day, so this is a huge loss in capacity. Four other major facilities that are currently inoperable are located in St. Tammany, St. Bernard, and Plaquemines Parishes. One of the big challenges of restoring these facilities is rebuilding the infrastructure associated with them, including miles of conveyances and numerous lift stations. Mr. Bass. Ms. Gautreaux. Ms. Gautreaux. The health risks associated with untreated water and wastewater---- Mr. Bass. If you could summarize, that would be great. Ms. Gautreaux. Okay. Well, let me just go into---- Mr. Bass. Sorry. Ms. Gautreaux. [continuing] our current remaining challenges. I will summarize. I apologize. But one of our big remaining challenges are railcars. We have between 1,000 and 5,000 railcars that were displaced or we are unable to locate, because of the storm. We ended up issuing administrative orders and are planning to review that process, so that we are more prepared to act in the event of another incident like this. There are about 1,000 potentially impacted underground storage tanks in the area, that will probably cost between $39 million and $97 million to repair and remediate. And finally, the last challenge, but definitely not least is the management of tons of debris, especially with the social, legal, and personal issues associated with the management of debris that have been referenced so far. To just to give you an idea of the volume, normally, the Orleans Parish Landfill disposes of about 1 million tons per year. In that parish alone, the estimate is 12 million tons due to the storm. We are working with local governments and our Federal partners to try to get a debris management plan, and exercise it, that matches the challenge. I wanted to particularly thank EPA for the ability to prioritize our response efforts, such as oversight, the ASPECT plane equipment that allowed us to pick up hydrocarbons that are invisible to the naked eye, and it helped us prioritize our response. So in general, we certainly are still looking. We are now moving into the serious assessment and response beyond the immediate storm phase, and we are very grateful to our partners, and we look forward to working with you and your committee, and I just guess one of the last things that I would like to suggest to the committee is that the coastal ecosystem that protects many of the issue areas over which your subcommittee has jurisdiction, has been severely damaged, and I hope that Congress will commit to the rehabilitation of this fragile system soon. And with that, I will apologize for running over, perhaps, and ask that my comments be put into the record, and I will be available for questions. [The prepared statement of Karen K. Gautreaux follows:] Prepared Statement of Karen K. Gautreaux, Deputy Secretary, Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Committee. I'm Karen Gautreaux, Deputy Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality. Thank you very much for allowing us to participate in this hearing, and especially for allowing us to do so by teleconference. Exactly one month ago today, Hurricane Katrina made landfall in Buras, Louisiana, and forever changed the physical, cultural, and economic landscape of our state, as well as delivering severe blows to our neighbors to the East in Mississippi, Alabama and Florida. Last Sunday, Hurricane Rita made landfall in the western side of the state in Cameron Parish, severely impacting that portion of our coast, as well as areas that had previously escaped the wrath of Katrina. Our neighbors in Texas who had sent 24 members of a ``strike team'' to assist us, had to return home and continue their response efforts in their own state. No part of the Gulf coast has remained untouched this hurricane season. Today I will limit my remarks to our Hurricane Katrina assessment and response efforts to date, as this is the focus of your hearing. First, I'd like to share with you an observation about Hurricane Katrina that has been repeated by experienced emergency responders from our staff and those of other state and federal agency partners. Simply, ``they have seen nothing like it.'' The magnitude and diversity of the environmental challenges presented by this storm have not been seen before in the United States. I will attempt to give a brief overview of those challenges, how they are being addressed, and actions anticipated in the future. One of first things our department and our agency partners did in order to best position ourselves to assess and respond to storm impacts was to establish and house a Unified Command Center at LDEQ headquarters in Baton Rouge. The center includes representatives from LDEQ, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, (EPA), the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (Corps), the U.S. Coast Guard (Coast Guard), the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency (NOAA), the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ), the Louisiana Oil Spill Coordinators Office (LOSCO), and the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals (LDHH). Local government has also been present at the Center. These representatives are coordinating emergency response, hazard assessment, and environmental sampling and planning activities. We better recognize the value of that coordination in the degree of readiness that we have experienced in response to Hurricane Rita. One of the key differences between the aftermath of Katrina and other hurricanes was the continued presence of floodwaters in the storm impact area. Because much of the area in New Orleans is below sea level, water that falls or enters the city must evaporate or be pumped out. As a result of the breaches and overtopping of the flood protection systems, namely floodwalls and levees, approximately 80 percent of the New Orleans area and some of Jefferson Parish remained flooded until the failed parts of the flood protection system could be patched and those areas pumped out. This lead to the floodwater ``bowl'' in the lowest elevations of the city where water sat for weeks. Hurricane Rita re-flooded areas that had most recently been dewatered. In St. Bernard and Plaquemines Parishes, low-lying areas also suffered from overtopping and breaches of the levee system, leaving them basically at sea level and subject to the tides until the levees could be repaired and the area dewatered, now for the second time. The areas north of Lake Pontchartrain experienced high winds and flooding. Although the damage was significant, in general those areas are recovering more quickly than Southeast Louisiana. I'll briefly go through a few the results of the first month's assessment and response activities, and mention issues that are being addressed, and those that will continue to be priorities for the future. First, the waters in the ``bowl'' in Orleans and Jefferson Parishes. This water flooded homes, businesses, streets, wastewater treatment facilities, drinking water systems. Initially DEQ and many of our agency partners, including EPA, focused on search and rescue. As people were trapped by the floodwaters and search and rescue efforts were hampered by access, dewatering the area was an urgent public health and safety priority. The decision was made to pump the floodwaters to Lake Pontchartrain. EPA and DEQ coordinated sampling efforts to characterize the floodwaters and measure the potential short and long-term environmental impacts to the lake. EPA sampled the floodwaters, and as DEQ had a good deal of historical water quality information on Lake Pontchartrain, we took responsibility for sampling in the lake and in two canals that are sites in the state's ambient water quality monitoring network. USGS is currently sampling for bacteria in the Lake. All results are being shared by the agencies and are available on the internet. To date the sampling has revealed that the floodwaters had characteristics common to most urban storm water events, with the contaminants of concern being high levels of fecal coliform bacteria and levels of lead that would be a health concern if a child were to ingest a liter of the floodwater a day for 6 years. These results are not surprising in an area with a flooded wastewater treatment system, submerged vehicles with lead batteries, and older flooded structures with lead paint. Early results of lake sampling indicate common water quality impacts caused by vegetation debris thrown into the water by hurricane winds and storm surge. This has caused low dissolved oxygen and fish kills in Northshore streams feeding into Lake Pontchartrain. Fecal coliform bacteria counts are slightly elevated in some areas as a result of flooded sewage treatment facilities, flooding of urban sewage lines, and flooding of pastures. Organic compound sampling and analysis has shown mostly non-detect results. Where detected, concentrations have not exceeded water quality standards. Metals have been below water quality standards with the exception of one sample taken from a New Orleans drainage canal. In general Lake Pontchartrain is maintaining good water quality, and the impacts to date to the Lake have been minimal. We are hopeful that the lake will be back to normal within months, not years, but we will be monitoring for years to ensure that is the case. More detail has been provided here to particularly address the concern about the so called ``toxic soup'' being dumped into the Lake. To date our results show this to be an inaccurate and alarmist characterization. Initial sediment samples in the flooded areas indicate that there are no acute health issues that would be expected from the concentrations of compounds observed to date. A summary of the sediment sampling results is included for the record, and sample results are available on the EPA web site. The results of twenty three air toxic and particulate canister samples in the storm impact area have also been encouraging. One sample taken near a fire in New Orleans contained 56 ppb of benzene, the ATSDR MRL is 50. Three canisters in St. Bernard showed slightly elevated levels of benzene and some other related pollutants, but none exceeded the ATSDR MRL screening levels, and the hydrocarbon profile resembled gasoline and diesel. The sample was taken in an area impacted by a spill. A summary of the air sampling results in attached. Of great concern are the impacts of a number of oil spills resulting from Katrina. Currently 5 major and 5 minor oil spills are the subject of response efforts. It is estimated that over 6.5 million gallons of oil have been released into the environment, with more spills expected as pipelines and facilities resume operations. Over 2.5 million gallons of oil have been recovered as of September 28, with the Coast Guard and LOSCO being the lead agencies in that effort. One major priority is the reestablishment of drinking water and wastewater treatment systems. Five of the large waste water treatment systems are now inoperable. The Orleans Eastbank system alone was capable of treating 144,000,000 gallons of wastewater per day, so this is a huge loss in capacity. Four other major facilities that are currently inoperable are located in St. Tammany, St. Bernard and Plaquemines Parishes. One of the big challenges of restoring these facilities is rebuilding the infrastructure associated with them, including miles of conveyances and numerous lift stations. The health risks associated with untreated water and wastewater make restoring these services a top priority. The Corps is working with local government, LDEQ and LDHH, and other federal agencies to restore these functions as quickly as possible. Another remaining challenge is locating, assessing and addressing between one and five thousand railroad cars that could have been displaced by Katrina. LDEQ had difficulty in quickly obtaining sufficient information from railroad companies to determine potential threats to public safety and the appropriate response. As a result, LDEQ issued 17 administrative orders demanding that information. While more information has since been provided to us, the result of delays in getting that information could have been tragic. LDEQ is continuing efforts to locate and assess displaced railcars, as well as considering how to improve this process in the future. There are about 1000 potentially impacted underground storage tanks (USTs) in the storm affected areas, with potential costs of between $39,000,000 and $97,000,000 to repair and remediate underground storage tanks. Final costs will depend upon the level of damage to sites from the storm, as well as disrupted efforts and additional damage at sites that were being remediated. LDEQ is continuing reconnaissance efforts in the storm impact areas, and has developed a draft UST Evaluation Plan to help UST owners and operators identify and address storm related problems. Finally, not the last challenge by any means, but probably the most daunting task of all, the management of the tons of debris in the storm impact area. Current estimates of the amount of woody waste and construction and demolition debris are about 22,000,000 tons. To give an appreciation of the volume, the landfill used by Orleans Parish disposed of about 1 million tons in an entire year, and in that parish alone the estimate is 12,000,000 tons. The total does not include approximately 350,000 vehicles from which fuel tanks, oil, batteries and mercury switches must be removed, about 60,000 boats. OF The140,000 to 160,000 homes likely include materials that have to be segregated prior to disposal. In addition to the sheer logistics challenge, much of this total is or was the personal property of someone who may or may not be with us anymore, or may or may not be able to come back to Louisiana. The property may have been left behind in an evacuation with an intention to return, it might or might not be insured, and perhaps is the property of a person who is now a thousand miles away. There are a myriad of issues to be addressed, and a plan that balances public safety, the environment, and legal and social considerations will have to be the ultimate goal. A FEMA debris management team, of which LDEQ is a partner has developed a debris management plan. LDEQ has responsibility for technical support primarily in evaluating sites that have been identified by local government for debris management. DEQ is also responsible for ensuring that disposal is in accordance with existing regulatory requirements and emergency declaration requirements. Local government will play a large role in the management of debris, particularly with regard to recommending sites and protocols for this effort. EPA is the lead for the collection of hazardous wastes, both orphaned containers and household materials. Hazardous waste collections have been on-going on the Northshore, and collections will begin soon in the other impacted areas. With regard to RCRA or hazardous wastes, our initial efforts have been to identify permitted facilities, our large quantity generators, and the Tier II facilities. To date, we've contacted facilities to determine which are operating, in the process of re-opening, or shut down, and will determine what future actions need to take place. One of the benefits of our response efforts has been the use of fairly new technologies that allowed early and effective reconnaissance when access to sites was an issue. Access continues to be an issue in some areas. EPA arranged for overflights with a helicopter equipped with a HAWK camera that can detect hydrocarbons that are invisible to the eye. Leaks that might otherwise go unnoticed can be detected and response prioritized. Similarly, the EPA ASPECT plane could detect compounds from the air, which was especially useful with fires in determining what compounds were being emitted and the appropriate response. EPA also has provided two TAGA vans with house very sophisticated air monitoring instruments. We shared this information with other response agencies, and this information was very valuable in the days immediately following the storm. It is very difficult to encapsulate the environmental issues associated with Katrina. To help in that regard, I have also provided the committee with a copy of the preliminary estimates of costs for response, assessment and recovery from environmental damages from Katrina. This was an estimate we were asked to provide to our Congressional Delegation within a week or so after the storm. We are currently reviewing those numbers in light of our experience, and would be pleased to forward to the committee a revised version when that work is complete. Besides the numbers, I think one of the values of the document is the systematic identification of issues, that go beyond my time for testimony. The only other thing I'd like to add that we did not address in our costs estimates document, but are very much concerned about, is the dramatic loss of coastal habitat from the winds and waves of Katrina. We believe that the blow sustained by this fragile ecosystem will likely be among the greatest negative long term impacts to our state and nation, and are hopeful that efforts to rehabilitate this system will commence soon. We realize this is out of the committee's direct jurisdiction, but please be aware that this system provides protection in areas that are directly under your jurisdiction. With that I'll thank you again for allowing the state of Louisiana to participate in your hearing today, and look forward to your questions and comments. 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Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Mr. Bass and the committee. First off, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Bill Rutledge. I am the mayor with the city of Pontotoc, in the northern part of the state. The population of my small town is 5,253, but what makes this so close to home, back in 2001, we had a devastating tornado that came through our community. It destroyed 10 percent of our town. By saying that, one of the sister cities that we have, that we started in the State of Mississippi through the Municipal League is adopt a city program. One of those cities, the city of Pontotoc, along with other towns have adopted Bay St. Louis. Unfortunately, my mayor brother couldn't be here with us today, Mayor Eddie Favre, but Mayor Favre wanted me to share with you, his town, which is made up of 8,200 people, actually 5,000 of those families' homes were on the Bay and 60 percent of those were totally destroyed, most of them with the 25 foot tidal wave, or surge, or whatever you want to call it. Saying all this, I want to bring something very clear to you, that a number of comments have been made about the local government, and who is in charge, or what should we do. The one thing that I want the people to realize is for the first 2 or 3 days, you have got to depend on your local people. And we found that out very quickly, and that is why one of the things that the small cities in north Mississippi did, we strictly went past the red tape, crossed the line, went straight to the officials of those communities ourselves to find out what their grocery needs were, buster pumps or chlorinators, backhoe tires for backhoes, water, food, whatever they needed, and what we did collectively, of all of north Mississippi, we provided those supplies to bring down. But another thing that we need to make clear, though, that we have got so many good resources in the State of Mississippi that how we work together, and one of those that I want to bring attention to is the Rural Water Association. The technical assistant program, which actually brings in and helps evaluate with the local officials. We know what the problems are, we just need to know where to get the parts, and have the resources to go out there and get those parts. Rural Water, the Operators Association in other towns around is actually, we came first response with them. I can't say enough good things about the military. The military did an outstanding job. In fact, it really helped us coordinate all of the efforts out there, but one of the problems that we run into, it seemed like there was so much paperwork or so many strings attached to everything that we are having to wait on somebody to tell us this is what we can do. Well, I can promise you small communities, we know what to do, we just need to know how where to get the supplies from and you know, how we are going to get them to us, and again, another source of resources that we had was the local churches, how they came together, how they provided the supplies and the needs that they have, and without the churches feeding them, bringing in the materials and stuff, and supplies, we don't know. Right now, kind of give you some background on where the State of Mississippi is right now, during the hurricane that hit, 97 percent of the 43 counties, the wastewater systems were out of operation. Today, as of about 2 hours ago, there is only one public wastewater facility that is not in operation. Now, I am not saying all of them are 100 percent, but I am saying that they are treating our public waste. Out of the 1,369 water systems, 486 were affected. Today, 82 of those systems are still under a rural water notice, but most of those are on a voluntary, so one of the things that we wanted to make sure was just like you all are, is to make sure we got treated, good quality drinking water, and a place to discharge. And like with Bay St. Louis, instead of discharging into the bay or into the channels, they have a backup system where they can discharge into a lagoon, which is actually held until it can be discharged in their regional wastewater facilities. But again, I would like to only suggest that maybe--is you all meeting, is you all come up with ideas and selections. We need to never forget about the local officials, and the local folks there, because having strangers coming in and making decisions, you know, the people are going to be looking for the mayors. They will be looking for their aldermen or their supervisors, because that is who they trust. That is who lives there. And I want to thank you for allowing me to be here. I thank you for all your prayers and your comments about the coastal area, and we do need those. [The prepared statement of Bill Rutledge follows:] Prepared Statement of Mayor Bill Rutledge, City of Pontotoc and Mayor Eddie Favre, City of Bay St. Louis on behalf of the National Rural Water Association [Note: This testimony was completed in one day, while we concurrently operated a full-time relief operation, and we ask the Committee for all deference in our ability to document and assess the situation and make our points. We believe we can appear before the Committee without compromising our relief operations and appreciate the opportunity to testify.] Background of Mayor Rutledge Mr. Chairman, my name is Bill Rutledge; I have been the mayor of the City of Pontotoc, Mississippi, since 1997 (currently in my third term). Pontotoc is the northern part of the state and has a population of 5,200. I am vice president of the Mississippi Municipal League, one the board of directors of the Mississippi Rural Water Association, and a member of the Northern Mississippi Mayors Association. My background includes 27 years of military service, including the National Guard. Before becoming mayor, I was a Circuit Rider, a job that required me to travel to over 500 drinking water supplies in the state and assist those communities with operation, maintenance, and compliance with their drinking water systems. My city has had firsthand experience with disasters. In 2001, a tornado hit my community (and county) and devastated us; it wiped out 10% of our downtown area, killed six citizens, cut a swath a mile wide for 23 miles across the county, and destroyed 350 homes (not counting businesses). Objective of My Comments I hope to provide the Committee with the following key points in my comments: Illustration of what many communities experienced that were hit by hurricane Katrina. Explanation of what communities face in recovering from Katrina's impact. An attempt to provide a status of recovery of the communities in the region. Explanation of what the local communities see as the public health and environmental conditions of the region, and the progress that is being made on that front. Our (from the local perspective) initial thoughts on what has worked for recovery and why, and what we think federal policy makers should know in order to be better able to enhance federal emergency policy (both preparedness and response). For much of my testimony, I will use the example of the City of Bay St. Louis, Mississippi, to illustrate my points and give a clear example of the situation. Bay St. Louis was one of the harder hit communities on the Gulf Coast. My community has been working with Bay St. Louis on response and recovery from the initial hours after the hurricane hit. Through our state municipal association, our cities have been paired up to provide this assistance in our ``Adopt a City'' initiative which has been a key effort to aide Bay St. Louis and which I will expand upon later. I am joined here today by my friend and colleague, Eddie Favre, who is the mayor of Bay St. Louis. I will read a joint statement to the Committee and both of us are happy to answer any questions. A key objective of both of us, here today, is not to gratuitously criticize relief operations and/or federal agencies. We don't think that would be of any service to our communities. We are interested detailing what did work and providing the Committee with a local perspective of public health and environmental conditions. Background of Mayor Favre Eddie Favre is in his fifth term as mayor. Before he became mayor, Eddie worked in the city administration and is a certified public accountant. Bay St. Louis is a community of 8,200 (currently 5,000) population on the Bay of St. Louis (on the Gulf Coast). The community's water supply is provided by two wells and the wastewater service is maintained by 40 lift stations (sewer pumps) of varying sizes, located around the communities, with the effluent pumped to a regional wastewater system for treatment. Summary of Katrina Impacts in Bay St. Louis The night before the hurricane, the city staff was preparing for the water and wastewater system for the hurricane by checking the generators at the well sites and moving equipment and sensitive electrical facilities to secure areas. However, the hurricane flooded the community more than any imaginable level (significantly more than hurricane Camille, which had been the previous standard for flooding maps). Almost all of the city was under water of varying depths, some areas as much as 25 feet. Mayor Favre's own home was in the one of the hardest hit portions of the city and all that is left now are a few pilings. He has been living in the fire station since the Sunday before the hurricane, where city officials and police stayed through the storm, and where they are staging relief operations. The extreme flooding lasted approximately five hours and, combined with the approximately 150-mile-an-hour winds, devastated the city: ripping up roads, piling houses on top of each other, toppling the largest trees, destroying a few thousands homes, destroying approximately 75% of the tax base, making approximately 60% of the homes in the community uninhabitable, etc. The hurricane knocked out electrical service and flooded all 40 sewer lift stations, making them inoperable and destroying almost all the electrical components in the lift stations. One lift station was thought to be safe and emergency response equipment was stored there. However, even this station was flooded, destroying approximately $500,000 of equipment (generators and backup electrical systems which the city desperately needed in the aftermath. Immediately after the worst of the impacts (approximately midday on Monday), the condition of the water and wastewater system was dire. There were numerous breaks in lines; thousands of houses had been destroyed which tore lines from the ground; downed trees brought up lines; washed out roads left main lines exposed and damaged; both wells were down without power; etc. City officials started assessing damage and repairing the water supply by Monday afternoon. By Tuesday morning they were valving off lines and restoring the wells from generated power. Valving off lines is the first measure taken in restoring the water supply (restoring water pressure to portions of the system). This simply prevents the water from flowing out of the system through the breaks (which there were too many to count). Contamination can flow into the system through line breaks, and lack of pressure makes it very difficult or impossible to maintain the necessary disinfectant in the system. Of course, through this process, the entire system was under a boil water order. By Wednesday (day 2), some portion of the water supply was being restored to houses that were inhabited. The process of valving off sections of the communities in order to maintain pressure and find/fix leaks continued round the clock for the next 3-4 days. This process was very labor intensive. Any particular valve which needed to be shut off to return water service could be buried under a series of houses (many feet deep), buried by very large trees, or ripped from the earth from collapsed buildings. Much of this work required heavy machinery (backhoes, tree removal cranes, numerous chain saws, etc.) and it could sometimes take a crew the better part of a day to remove all the stacked houses and dig for the valve. After initially stabilizing the water system, the city public works staff began assessing the needs of the wastewater systems. Each lift station had to be rebuilt, as the electrical control panels had been destroyed by water. New parts had to be ordered and installed in each station to begin wastewater service. Waste service was partially restored in a week (at approximately 2:00 am the following Monday, the primary lift station was in service). Another 25 stations were operational by the following Friday. Every control panel had to be changed in the lift stations. Wastewater has to go somewhere in a disrupted system--it was impossible to control all untreated effluent from the wastewater system at all times. The wastewater system was inundated with flood water. This, combined with restored water service and torn up sewer lines (opening them to be filled by sand, wood, kitchen sinks, tires, bricks, debris, etc), caused some isolated overflows or untreated wastewater. This overflow was highly diluted with rainwater, and the city initiated some ad hoc emergency treatment of the overflows by placing chlorine tablets directly into the overflow streams as they ran off from the wastewater system. Much of the runoff was being absorbed by receiving waters contaminated by the hurricane with dead animals, vehicles, and other debris washed into them. The city posted notices to stay out of the bay waters that had been contaminated from the general runoff and dead animals in the bay. Some people in distress had been washing items and bathing in the bay water. Electrical power was restored 10 days after Katrina hit--for those 9 days the systems were operated on emergency generated power. Current Status of Water and Sanitation Currently, the water system is up and pressurized; however, we are finding new leaks every day and, as we restore new portions of the system and increase pressure, new breaks occur. The stress that is being placed on the water distribution system makes it fragile and prone to breaks. Loss of pressure means safety of the drinking water could be compromised. The water quality tests for coliform contamination have been met--the water has passed those tests, and the pressure is adequate, however fragile. And we are maintaining the necessary residual amount of chlorine disinfectant in the system. All this means the boil water order could be lifted. However, it is the decision of the local city officials not to lift the boil order at this time because the distribution system is (in the mayor and public works staff's opinion) still too fragile and vulnerable. The order could be lifted in the coming days. As recently as Monday of this week, a main pump had electrical failure, which caused loss of pressure. Almost all the people in the area (upwards of 5,000) are drinking bottled water and only using the city water for washing, toilets, and household needs. Currently, the wastewater system is operating, pumping all sewage possible to our regional treatment works. The wastewater system has experienced limited, isolated overflows from broken or backed-up service lines; however, this is minimal and decreasing each day. There is a backup system for all the centrally collected sewage, in the event that the regional treatment plant can't accept our wastewater stream. As a backup, the old lagoon is available to store and treat practically any wastewater overflow from the central collection systems. This backup could handle a number of days of the sewage without any discharge to the environment. Immediate Technical Assistance and Equipment Is Needed (Environmental Regulation is Not Needed, Nor Appropriate) Bay St. Louis has been helped through the recovery from the initial moments following the hurricane. Numerous technical response crews have been working in the community to restore water and sanitary service. The city has had Mississippi Rural Water Circuit Riders working every day for two weeks without break. Rural Water organized most of the personnel logistics in Bay St. Louis and in the other coastal counties. Rural Water Director Pete Boone and his staff were responsible for coordinating much of the recovery and providing technical personnel. Numerous utility crews have been working in Bay St. Louis from the City of Pontotoc; Clearwater, Florida; Fort Myers, Florida; Davenport, Iowa; Navy electricians (Seabees); Air Force Red Horse Squadron; American Gas Association; Yankee Gas; the Town of Cornett, Mississippi; and others that should mentioned. What is needed in this crisis and future crises is immediate access to technical personnel and equipment. Communities know the water is not safe long before it is declared not in compliance, and no one wants to restore safe water more than the local officials. We don't need someone to tell us we must comply, but rather, we need the help and know-how to fix the problem. The problem to solve is purely a RESOURCE problem not a REGULATORY problem. This is why regulators are of little help in these situations. The type of people that are needed are: experienced operators, electricians, machinery crews, machine repair crews, expert pipe repair personnel, contractors, etc. Mandating progress is easy; it is the ``how-to'' that is hard and essential to limiting harm to public health and the environment. For the ``how-to,'' the city relied on the help from the previously mentioned volunteers. From the mayor's perspective, water is about the most important service for public welfare. Sanitation is critical, however, a community can get by for some time with loss of sanitation. Electricity is perhaps equally as critical as water, and the return of electrical power is typically the sign that things are being pulled together, but drinking water is an immediate and essential public health and welfare service. I was the second person Mayor Favre called after Katrina's impact in Bay St. Louis. Using resources from the City of Pontotoc, our crews loaded cargo trucks and city vehicles with backhoe tires and parts, washers, refrigerators, buster pumps, chlorinator parts, baby food, baby clothes, blankets, plastic tarp coverings, diesel fuel, oil, gas cans, grills, cooking trailers, etc., along with four-man crews, and immediately headed for Bay St. Louis. Pontotoc has been shifting in three-man crews to Bay St. Louis and the neighboring hard hit city of Waveland every four days. These crews and the technical crews from the mentioned organizations can operate heavy machinery, repair the machinery, isolate and fix leaks, install and repair pumps, dig up mains, etc. These crews have the experience to bring the water pressure up without damaging other parts of systems. The process of valving off sections of the system, repairing the lines, bleeding out the air, and returning pressure takes skilled technical personnel. Repairing of backhoe tires proved to be a desperately needed service and critical to recovering water and sewer. One technical field person from Florida reported the following when asked what common technical assistance is needed in damaged communities: ``Much more complicated [than just generators]. Electrical components cleaned and replaced; control panels rebuilt; electric motors and pumps replaced or rebuilt; bypass pumps installed; generators wired direct; lift stations cleaned with vacuums or jet cleaned; leaks located and repaired with backhoes brought out from Florida; valves located and closed/ opened or valves inserted to isolate areas of system; lift stations rebuilt; wastewater plants made to work with baling wire, rubber bands, bubble gum, or anything laying around. For example, wire is needed to bypass missing electrical controls so crews can go into rubble of destroyed houses and pull out wire to rewire water and wastewater plants. Think in terms of 50 McGuyvers doing whatever it takes to get water to folks and stop wastewater in the streets, in the Gulf, etc. At one plant, Florida crews walked around the destroyed warehouse/supply building to find circuit boards, fuses, whatever they needed and could find to get plant online. They even took circuit boards found and cleaned up best they could, so they could be used. These are master electricians, instrument techs, and top professionals in there areas.'' Other crews from Pervis, Lamar County, and Monticello have responded to other Gulf Coast communities. In all of their cases of critical response, there was no approval process, forms, or red tape-- just neighboring communities (already familiar with each other through participation in common associations, including municipal leagues and rural water associations) responding with the know-how and immediacy regardless of potential reimbursement. What we have witnessed in this relief operation is the necessity of familiarity among the needy and contributing communities. It has been apparent that strangers can't have the relationship, familiarity, and trust needed to be helpful in an emergency situation. Our two cities have been working cooperatively for years, eliminating any learning curve which could cause delayed response and the trust deep. Working with partners in professional associations resulted in access to a network of experts. The Rural Water Circuit Riders were able to use their contacts across the state to acquire parts, plumbers, gas technicians, pipe, etc., that only comes from networking in the association of water and wastewater utilities. By networking within the association of mayors, Bay St. Louis and other cites were able to find immediate expert contractors and volunteer crews. This familiarity and peer assessment/review also acts as a check against any fraud. Because we have all of the leadership of the communities in the state cooperative looking at the actions of all the other communities, it acts as an effective self-policing filter (a system of checks and balances). Structural reasons that these volunteer and professional associations were so critical and effective in responding to the crises include: The fact that the associations' functions are directly accountable to their members (the communities), ensuring that they act in a manner most favored and beneficial to the membership. An understanding that time is a function of success (i.e., delayed response can significantly harm the public). In Louisiana, the EPA is conducting an in-depth assessment of every water supply (even communities with no reported problems). This type of inquiry has delayed what the communities believed was their immediate pressing need for equipment and technical assistance--to maximize public health protection. For example, while the EPA was just starting their intensive reporting assessment, communities where seeking out help where they could get it, and couldn't wait for EPA to complete its assessment. In Livingston Parish, a Circuit Rider found much of the parish's utilities without energy immediately following the hurricane. After coordinating with local officials, including fire officials and parish emergency offices, to target the most severely impacted utilities, the Circuit Rider was able to communicate with those operators via Nex-Tel (all phone communications were lost). Unable to procure water bladders from FEMA or emergency organizations, he was able to find approximately 20 water storage tanks and a colleague with a flatbed tow truck and started delivering the filled, large potable water storage containers to at least seven communities (Port Vincent, Paradise Ponte Island, Springfield, Head of Island, Killian, Bayview, and Vincent Acres). Working around the clock to keep the containers filled (10-hour supply), the pressure in the water systems was maintained. The tow truck operator was able to lift the main container on the truck high enough to create a siphon to fill the container left on-site. All authority is localized. There is no need to seek approval from a centralized hierarchy that is not in the middle of the situation--and real-time changes to plans and polices can be made to react to local conditions and variables. What I have just described is the relief operations for communities' environmental services. However, there has been an allegorical response to our citizens' immediate individual human needs. The local churches have been the main response on this level. We have seen churches providing widespread operations to assist families and individuals. I personally witnessed a caravan of 71 church vehicles bringing relief to the Gulf Coast communities on one drive down highway 49 to Biloxi. In these communities, churches have been preparing meals for citizens and law enforcement officials tired of eating MREs, cooking on-site, carrying meals to people who won't leave their houses, taking in refugees, and all other acts of human kindness. There is not a church in my county that hasn't contributed to the relief. Overall Assessment of Region's Environmental Impacts From Loss of Water and Sewer Service The assessments from Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana are detailed in the following appendix. Mr. Bass. I thank you very much, Mayor Rutledge, and I just want you to know on a personal note, I established, in my hometown of Peterborough, New Hampshire, a program to adopt the city of Collins, Mississippi. We have sent an assessment team from Peterborough, New Hampshire down there. I wish you would convey my best regards to Mayor V. O. Smith, who is a wonderful fellow. My hometown of Peterborough is going to provide them, we hope, with $100,000 in cash to help rebuild the town by the end of October. With that, I would like to move Dr. Ragone, please, sir. STATEMENT OF STEPHEN E. RAGONE Mr. Ragone. Mr. Chairman, just a correction. I am the Director of Science and Technology with the National Ground Water Association, and Dr. Schnieders is a member of the National Ground Water Association. Mr. Bass. Fair enough. Please accept my apologies. Mr. Ragone. Oh, I like that other group very much. Just for the record, too, the NGWA is an organization of approximately 15,000 scientists, engineers, contractors, manufacturers, and suppliers. Our overall mission is to provide and protect groundwater. What we have learned so far is that the situation resulting from Hurricane Katrina is understandably chaotic. Our members report that many of the hardest hit communities still do not have electricity, generators, or operational water pumps. Some report that access to these communities has been restricted. We have learned that difficulties remain in contacting local water supply employees. People with private wells, we are told, have been left on their own to fix their water problems. More than 230,000 residents in the impacted area rely on private wells for drinking water. So far, we have heard that saltwater is in some of these wells. NGWA members are in the process of addressing these situations. We anticipate that complaints of contamination, or water supply problems will be reported as residents return home, and find they have no water or poor water quality. Reports from areas less impacted by the storm indicate that strides are being made to return public and private water systems to operation. A concern is whether the municipal distribution infrastructure, the water pipes, remains intact, as contamination could result through breaks in the distribution pipes. Our members expect that the impact of the hurricane will be minimal even in the heavily inundated areas, for those who have properly constructed and maintained wells. We are aware of efforts being taken to obtain baseline information and provide assistance, and we have included that in our longer written testimony. However, it is our general impression from contacts with our members in the affected region that communication problems, citizen displacement, and other storm-related disruptions, have slowed efforts to determine the scope of the problem, and to take corrective measures. It appears that improved pre-disaster planning, training, and coordination between government officials and private sector water well professionals could have improved response time. Planning, coordination, and training of local officials and private sector entities prior to the disaster seems to be a critical missing component in helping to make recovery efforts more effective. Although standard disinfection protocols are being distributed by many agencies in the area, we believe that additional disinfection protocols may be required, in order to mitigate the varying levels of contamination. For example, shock chlorination, the traditional approach to well disinfection, does not always solve the problem for those with inundated wells, or where general groundwater quality has been impacted. In fact, shock chlorination can cause more long-term harm than good. This is especially true when floodwaters contain very high loads of sediment, debris, or chemical and biological contaminants. Also, and very importantly, studies have shown that older wells are more susceptible to contamination and flooding, and may require different decontamination protocols than more modern wells. The National Ground Water Association, under a contract with FEMA, presented a report to the agency in 2002, entitled ``Field Evaluation of Emergency Well Disinfection for Contamination Events.'' This field study examined Hurricane Floyd's impact on wells in North Carolina and adjacent Atlanta coastal areas, and specifically, well-disinfection efficacy. Some of the recommendations included in that report are attached to my written testimony as Appendix 1. The recommendations highlight our concern that a more strategic, community-based approach is needed to prepare for and respond to natural disasters and terrorist acts. If you would like a copy of this report, we would be happy to provide it. The NGWA has been working to provided needed information and protocols for emergency response. We have developed website products, certified professionals, offered training programs and materials, as well as undertaken our own research to help prepare the industry, well owners, and government officials. However, we recognize that much more needs to be done. We look forward to working with Federal, state, local, private sector partners to fill research, training, and information gaps. The NGWA is happy to have had the chance to participate in this hearing. An important reason for being here, beyond our concern about the immediate crisis caused by Hurricane Katrina, is to encourage the development of a strategy that will ensure immediate, cost effective, and appropriate community-based responses to future disasters and terrorist acts that may disrupt our drinking water supplies. Thank you very much. [The prepared statement of Stephen E. Ragone follows:] Prepared Statement of Stephen E. Ragone, Director of Science and Technology, The National Ground Water Association introduction Good morning. My name is Dr. Stephen Ragone. I am the Director for Science and Technology for the National Ground Water Association (NGWA). The NGWA is an organization of approximately 15,000 scientists, engineers, contractors, manufacturers and suppliers. The NGWA's overall mission is to provide and protect ground water. I would first like to thank the Committee for this opportunity to speak and acknowledge my colleague, Dr. John Schnieders, principal chemist for Water Systems Engineering, Inc. who helped me prepare these remarks. Approximately 52% of Alabama's, 100% of Mississippi's and 75% of Louisiana's populations regularly depend on ground water for their drinking water supply.<SUP>1</SUP> Over 513,000 wells are used to provide drinking water to the three states' residents (Table 1). Of those, an estimated 234,545 household well systems in Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi counties are estimated to be in areas impacted by Hurricane Katrina and are eligible for individual disaster assistance funds from FEMA (Table 2). At this time we cannot provide the Committee with a number of wells that have been flooded versus other levels of impact. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ U.S. Geological Survey, March 2004 report on 2000 water use --------------------------------------------------------------------------- what do we know What we have learned so far is that the situation is, understandably, chaotic. Our members report that many in the hardest hit communities still do not have electricity, generators or operational water pumps. Some report that access to these communities has been restricted. There also have been reports of saltwater in some wells. NGWA members are in the process of addressing these situations. However, as more residents return, it is anticipated that complaints will continue to come in when people find they have no water or poor quality water. Reports from areas less impacted by the storm are that strides are being made to return public and private water systems to operation. A top concern is whether the municipal distribution infrastructure--the water pipes ``remains intact as contamination could result through breaks in the distribution pipes. We've heard that difficulties remain in contacting water system employees. Members expect that the impact of the hurricane will be minimal--even in heavily inundated areas--for those who have properly constructed and maintained wells. We are also aware of efforts being undertaken to obtain baseline information or provide assistance. For example the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals, in conjunction with the U.S. EPA and the Louisiana Rural Water Association, are offering free water testing to residents in certain Louisiana parishes with flooded household wells. As part of this effort, residents are being provided with information on sample collection and water system disinfection. The U.S. EPA and the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) have information regarding well-testing and disinfection on their website. Additionally, the U.S. Geological Survey is testing wells in inundated areas to assess whether brackish water has entered into the subsurface. We also have reports that Louisiana DEQ is in the initial stages of doing some VOCs testing. A report we received from the Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development indicate they are currently testing public water supplies but an inventory of flooded, and or damaged domestic wells is not yet available. However, our members in the Louisiana Ground Water Association reported that well drillers are working around the clock to return household wells to potability. It is our general impression from contacts with our members in the region that communication problems, other relief efforts, and citizen displacement remain challenges to identifying the scope of the problem and remediating affected wells. It appears that improved pre-disaster planning, training, and coordination between government officials and private sector water well professionals could have lessened the challenges. Planning, coordination, and training of local officials and private sector entities prior to the disaster seem to be critical missing components in helping to make existing efforts more effective. Beyond initial and standard protocols being distributed, long-term strategies should ensure that appropriate de-contamination protocols are available for varying levels of contamination, well design, well size, and hydrogeologic variables. For example, shock chlorination--the traditional approach to well disinfection--does not always solve the problem for those with inundated wells or where general ground water quality has been impacted. In fact, shock chlorination can cause more long-term harm than good. This is especially true when floodwaters contain very high loads of sediment, debris, as well as, chemical and biological contaminants. In such cases the wells, both public and private, may require different and/or additional cleaning procedures. This concern is exacerbated in several areas impacted by Hurricane Katrina where refineries and other industries are present. Studies have also shown that older wells are more susceptible to contamination and flooding, and may require different approaches than more modern wells.<SUP>2</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A Survey of the Quality of Wter Drawn from Domestic Wells in Nine Midwest States. September 1998. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- future strategies require coordination The National Ground Water Association, under a contract with FEMA, presented a report to the agency in 2002 entitled ``Field Evaluation of Emergency Well Disinfection for Contamination Events.'' This field study examined the 1999 Hurricane Floyd's impact on North Carolina and adjacent Atlantic coastal areas--specifically well disinfection efficacy. We also included in the report recommendations on how to address household water wells in future natural and manmade disasters. If you would like a copy of this report please let us know. (Appendix I). Our recommendations outline a plan that educates and trains local private sector personnel to complement government efforts in a forward thinking manner. We discuss the development of county/district teams trained and equipped to evaluate, help and conduct needed immediate repairs of wells as needed to restore private water supply function and potability. These teams would include local government environmental health staff, private-sector personnel experienced in well and pump service and other people with specific knowledge of local ground water quality and occurrence, such as hydrogeologists. The teams would be trained in both evaluation and pump repair. Additionally, these teams would work to train retail workers and ``neighborhood helpers'' who work with pumps, plumbing, chemical selection and/or generally mechanical to aide in post-emergency efforts. As for disinfection efficacy, as discussed previously, there are standard disinfection methods but it will be important that residents and water suppliers follow the appropriate protocols for the appropriate water supply and take into account contaminants present, size of well, aquifer hydraulic conductivity, and flood water depth and quality. Local health and water entities, both governmental and private-sector, should have this information readily available for themselves and the public at large. The NGWA has been working in this area. We have developed web site products, certified professionals, offered training programs and materials, as well as undertaken research to help prepare the industry, well owners and government officials. However, more has to be done. We are looking forward to working with our federal, state, local and private sector partners to fill research, training and information gaps and enhance state and local response planning. The NGWA is happy to have had the chance to participate in this hearing. An important reason for being here, beyond our concern about the immediate crisis caused by Hurricane Katrina, is to encourage this country to develop a strategy that will ensure immediate, cost- effective and appropriate responses to future natural disasters or terrorist's acts that disrupt our drinking water supplies. We look forward to working with you and serving as a resource as more information on the impacts of Katrina on ground water supplies is collected and analyzed. Table 1 State Well Numbers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Community Wells Household Wells State \3\ \4\ Total for State ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alabama................................................ 764 201,111 201,875 Mississippi............................................ 2,712 122,452 125,164 Louisiana.............................................. 3,338 182,926 186,264 Total.................................................. 6,814 506,489 513,303 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \3\ US EPA, 2004 \4\ Based on 1990 Census data, last year in which household wells were counted. Table 2 Estimated Household Wells in Designated Disaster Counties (counties where individual assistance available) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alabama Louisiana Mississippi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Baldwin......................... 11,902 Acadia............. 6,279 Adams............. 378 Greene.......................... 1,034 Ascension.......... 9,942 Amite............. 1,755 Hale............................ 1,301 Assumption......... 92 Attala............ 807 Mobile1......................... 4,708 Calcasieu.......... 10,012 Choctaw........... 200 Pickens......................... 1,378 Cameron............ 472 Claiborne......... 162 Tuscaloosa...................... 3,446 East Baton Rouge... 1,031 Clarke............ 1,144 Washington...................... 2,941 East Feliciana..... 1,041 Copiah............ 674 Iberia............. 4,392 Covington......... 414 Iberville.......... 638 Forrest........... 853 Jefferson.......... 54 Franklin.......... 1,280 Jefferson Davis.... 1,904 George............ 4,289 Lafayette.......... 13,311 Greene............ 1,323 Lafourche.......... 3 Hancock........... 5,424 Livingston......... 7,874 Harrison.......... 12,726 Orleans............ 1,024 Hinds............. 1,246 Plaquemines........ 37 Jackson........... 8,723 Pointe Coupee...... 1,162 Jasper............ 199 St. Bernard........ 10 Jefferson......... 142 St. Charles........ 33 Jefferson Davis... 352 St. Helena......... 1,016 Jones............. 640 St. James.......... 56 Kemper............ 184 St. John........... 239 Lamar............. 1,470 St. Martin......... 2,482 Lauderdale........ 2,276 St. Mary........... 441 Lawrence.......... 483 St. Tammany........ 21,787 Leake............. 860 Tangipahoa......... 14,035 Lincoln........... 4,372 Terrebonne......... 23 Lowndes........... 3,167 Vermilion.......... 9,867 Madison........... 506 Washington......... 6,594 Marion............ 1,757 West Baton Rouge... 147 Neshoba........... 599 West Feliciana..... 59 Newton............ 1,603 Noxubee........... 1,128 Oktibbeha......... 320 Pearl River....... 5,957 Perry............. 870 Pike.............. 4,344 Rankin............ 871 Scott............. 487 Simpson........... 736 Smith............. 329 Stone............. 1,594 Walthall.......... 2,204 Warren............ 389 Wayne............. 1,388 Wilkinson......... 499 Winston........... 180 Yazoo............. 474 36,710 116,057 81,778 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Appendix I excerpt from field evaluation of emergency well disinfection for contamination events: final project report plan for returning water supply wells inundated by flood The following is a set of recommendations for planning and implementing a program of returning water supply wells inundated by flood to potable status. Implementing these activities will require coordination among county departments and among local jurisdictions, the state, and supporting federal agencies such as FEMA, and also with the private sector. An appropriate organizational umbrella under which this process could operate is state/county emergency management. 1. In each county/district of local government environmental health, teams will be trained and equipped to evaluate, help and conduct needed immediate repairs of wells as needed to restore private water supply function and potability. The team should include government environmental health staff, private-sector personnel experienced in well and pump service, and other people with specific knowledge of local ground water quality and occurrence, such as hydrogeologists. The teams need to be trained in both a) evaluation and expedient fixes (pump repair) and b) human interaction (customer relations). Private sector team's members should be on retainer or standing purchase order. 2. These teams in turn should train a) retail workers, such as those working in hardware stores and home-improvement superstores who work with pumps, plumbing, and chemical selection and b) ``neighborhood helpers''--those people found in any neighborhood or community who are capable, helpful and competent in fixing things--to assist people with basic pump repair and well disinfection. Train them to safely and effectively deal with the well problems that do not require contractor equipment, such as jet pump repair or shallow well disinfection, the specifics of safety issues, and water sampling. Such trained personnel, upon passing a practical examination, would be awarded a limited-time certification in emergency water supply assistance. The local environmental health agency would maintain and publicize a current list of stores with such certified personnel available. Certified neighborhood helpers would identify themselves to emergency response personnel and neighbors, and be known to well ERP team members. All such responders must be insured or otherwise protected under state ``good Samaritan'' provisions to the extent appropriate. 3. Draft and supply simply worded and illustrated fact sheets with detailed recommendations for safe pump function restoration, well flushing, and well disinfection, with versions in both English and widely used secondary languages such as Spanish. 4. In support of activities triggered under the local well restoration ERP: A. Have wells spotted and located on county GIS plat maps, with a database of essential well characteristics (type, depth, diameter). Hard-copy maps and GIS electronic file backups should be generated regularly, made available to the well response teams, and stored safely in case of emergency. B. Collect data on hydrogeology (aquifer tapped by wells, protective layers, water tables) and a suite of physical-chemical and microbial ecology parameters that provide a basis for understanding an ambient baseline condition. With such an ambient baseline recorded, deviations from the expected hydrogeochemical profile of a well can be recognized, even if basic regulatory parameters are negative or inconclusive. Include this hydrogeochemical data in the GIS database and as map layers for use by the well ERP team. C. The plan should include a well triage strategy for use in the event of an emergency, as follows: Start with a rapid survey (aided by having wells finely located) to assess the situation and to formulate a response. Accurately mark and bypass 2-in. deep wells with in-line jets, and 2-in. jetted or driven wells, and other wells requiring specific training and equipment to restore. Have people pump them, but leave treatment or replacement to an equipped contractor. Instruct people on how to treat shallow bored wells. Sample wells for total coli form once restored to function and pumped. Certified helpers would supplement environmental health in this. Plan and implement follow-up testing and additional response, such as ordering and assisting impaired well replacement. 5. Equip response teams as follows: A. A supply of pump sets for circulating chlorine and pumping, equipped as needed (hoses, valves, fittings) and working. Include a generator, tools, parts and instructions to install functional systems on typical installations. Provide and periodically update reliable telephone numbers for troubleshooting and installation assistance. B. As only Ca(OCl)2 has a lengthy shelf life (when stored cool and dry), keep some of this on hand in various forms for use until trucks can bring in sodium hypochlorite. Include any associated treatment chemicals such as vinegar for acidizing. Rotate stocks semiannually. Have on hand measuring cups and laminated sheets with information on dosing volumes for wells by diameter and depth. C. Well water testing equipment similar to that used in this study-- maintained, calibrated, and with fresh batteries--and sampling supplies for (limited) onsite and laboratory analysis of TC, nitrates, and selected other contaminants. Testing should be part of triage and follow up. 6. Local environmental health jurisdictions should aggressively work to reduce the number of substandard and unsafe private water supplies vulnerable to flooding inundation. A. Begin a public information campaign to educate well owners and users about safe and unsafe or vulnerable water supplies and how they can be tested and improved. B. Deficiencies in specific well and pump installations (poorly designed, vulnerable to inundation or damage during credible flooding events, or otherwise unsafe in addition to not meeting state rules) identified during mapping efforts should be called to the attention of property owners and responsible parties, with procedures and schedules for resolution provided. 7. This inspection and response plan should have a regular review and revision cycle with measurable goals set. Immediate Response and Prioritizing Follow-up Response 1. Determine that an emergency exists, assess its magnitude and implement the well restoration ERP elements appropriate to the emergency. 2. Broadcast instructions for safely restoring well function and activate the network of certified well responders and professional contractors. Make instructions for disinfection that can be attempted by well owners and contacts for assistance available to affected residents. 3. As soon as it is safe, well ERP teams begin the reconnaissance to determine necessary responses for specific wells and assign them to the appropriate responders. Use the predetermined well designations from disaster-preparedness inspections (Section 7.1). A. Inform residents of the response plan and schedule. Provide a point of contact for residents, and assist them as needed in obtaining emergency potable and wash water. B. In a site visit: 1) Identify and record (narrated video or by photography with notation) problems for follow up later. 2) As soon as possible, restore well function and instruct residents to pump wells several hours to clear contamination. 3) Sample for contamination parameters. 4. If analysis results indicate that contamination has occurred (or may have occurred), implement disinfection as follows. Emergency Disinfection Methods While disinfection procedures are somewhat specific to the individual well's dimensions, design and conditions, the following are general requirements of emergency disinfection in response to inundation. 1. As needed, restore pump function as needed and pump inundated wells clear for several hours to clear dirt and flood water contaminants. Do not pump flush water through treatment and distribution systems, but discharge from the first flushing tap. The time required is dependent on well size, aquifer hydraulic conductivity, and flood water depth and quality. As few as three hours and as many as 24 may be needed, and reasonable numbers should be determined for local conditions. 2. In a clean mixing tank or container, mix a solution with 100 mg/ L (ppm) chlorine, maximized for hypochlorous acid: In the appropriate volume (one well bore volume--determine by well diameter, depth, and depth to water level) of clean water, acidify with white distilled food-grade vinegar or more concentrated food-grade acetic acid to approximately pH 5.9 (varies according to water pH and buffering capacity). Then mix in the sodium hypochlorite solution (generally 5-12 %) volume needed to make a 100-ppm solution. Adjust pH as needed to pH 6.5 or less. Alternative: Use powdered or granular calcium hypochlorite for chlorine and muriatic or sulfamic acid for acidifier. People conducting this mixing must be trained in the specific chemical safety issues of these chemicals and mixtures and their use and be equipped to avoid injury and to respond to spills. 3. Drain or pump to the bottom of the well. 4. Start agitation or pumping to pull solution upward throughout the water column. 5. Allow to react up to 24 hr. 6. Pump off to waste, avoiding environmental harm, until measured total chlorine is <0.2 mg/L. 7. Conduct water system disinfection per state rules or recommendations. 8. After one week, test for total coli form bacteria and nitrates. In the interim, instruct residents to boil water for drinking and cooking. Exception: Boiling should be avoided if a history of high nitrates exists, substitute filtration. 9. If wells are substandard at inspection, or do not respond to treatment, follow up with action to require replacement or repair, and provide the appropriate assistance to make this happen. Specific steps for a 2-in in-line jet well) 1. Pump clear 3 well volumes or fresh ground water by parameters 2. Mix in large plastic tubs: vinegar for acidifying and sufficient NaOCl to treat 2 well volumes 3. Pull in-well pipe and jet (inspect and clean) 4. Displace in chlorine solution: Air used to displace solution downward and a bailer to pull solution upward through the water column 5. Wait 24 hr 6. Reinstall pump components and hook up jet pump 7. Pump off to clear 8. Pump one well volume + after Cl is < 0.2 mg/L and test for TC and ion parameters. 9. In one week, test for indicator parameters. Specific steps for a bored well: 1. In clean, new 32-gallon plastic trash cans, mix vinegar and NaOCl or Ca(OCl)2 to make a well-bore volume of 100-mg/L solution, and permit residues to settle. 2. Pump well down and clear. 3. Dose with chlorine solution and brush well walls 4. Let refill if slow to respond after emptying 5. Recirculate with jet pump 6. Wait 24 hr 7. Pump clear (to < 0.2 mg/L by chlorine test kit) 8. Pump more than one well volume, then test for indicator parameters Follow up 1. Take steps to replace vulnerable and substandard well water supplies, with specific plans, goals and schedules, developed through consultation with the public, regulatory officials, stakeholders, and funding sources, and prevent installation of at-risk private water supplies in the future. 2. Review the well restoration ERP and its implementation and make adjustments needed. The above recommended protocols should be viewed as being preliminary and subject to review and revision by the implementing agencies. Mr. Bass. Thank you very much, Dr. Ragone. Mr. Olson, you are next. STATEMENT OF ERIK D. OLSON Mr. Olson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks for inviting me to testify. I am with the Natural Resources Defense Council, but I also wanted to mention that we have been working closely with a variety of organization from Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, to get input in daily calls and so on, with Dr. Beverly Wright, to my left, and with a variety of other groups, including Louisiana Environmental Network and many others that are expert in observing what is happening every day. We believe that Katrina really is, perhaps, the single worst environmental catastrophe that has ever befallen the United States from a natural disaster. And obviously, there have been many environmental disasters, but the impacts of this, we are just beginning to learn. We have heard a lot of anecdotal reports, at least, of health effects in people that have been exposed, police officers, first responders, and the public that are reporting rashes and blisters, as a result of touching some of the water. Open sores that are not responsive to antibiotics. Fumes that are causing asthma and respiratory problems. We strongly believe that this shouldn't just be anecdotal reporting. There should be ongoing surveillance of people that are going back into these communities. We have heard about a young man who went into some of the water with hip waders, and had a small amount of water splashed into his hip wading boots, and came out with blisters the same day. So, clearly, there are problems. There is not safe drinking water, as we just heard EPA testify, for, I believe they said 2.3 million people to this day. In New Orleans proper, the water is not safe to drink, yet hundreds of thousands of people are being told that they can come back into town. American Water Works Association last week released an estimate that it was going to cost $2.25 billion just to rehabilitate the drinking water supplies in this area. There are widespread toxins as well. What I have primarily been talking about are some of the bacterial and related problems, but the toxic problems and the oil spills are a serious issue. By some counts, we heard just moments ago a witness say that it was around 400 oil and hazardous chemical spills. Previous estimates posted on government websites were there were 575 recorded oil and hazardous chemical spills, over 7 million gallons being spilled. Just imagine 350,000 automobiles that have been destroyed by this. How much oil, how much gasoline, how many toxic substances are released there? Also, hundreds of industrial facilities, dozens of hazardous waste and other related facilities that were inundated. We are very concerned about the long term effects of this. I wanted to mention a couple of important points. One is the air monitoring that has been released. I have in my testimony a table, which is derived directly from the EPA's website. On page 3 of our testimony, we compare the levels of benzene, a known human carcinogen, and a toxin to the human system, we compare the levels measured by EPA in New Orleans proper, to the 2 week safety standard, in other words, the standard that you could be safely exposed to for around 2 weeks. That safety standard is five parts per billion, and over half of the samples taken in the city were over that standard. And we list many sites where it was more than double the safety standard. We are very concerned that some public statements of the agency official suggest that it is safe to return, yet their own monitoring is showing that it is well over the 2 week, or so-called intermediate safety standard. It might be safe to go in for a day and come back out, but it is not safe to stay there for a period of time. In addition, returning citizens are really not getting the kind of information they need about what is safe and what is not. We just heard witnesses say that it is the local government's responsibility ultimately. We strongly disagree with that. We believe that the Federal Government, the Federal EPA, has the legal authority and the responsibility, both as a legal matter and as a moral matter, to make sure that when people are returning to these communities, that they are going to get accurate information, and that they will be safe. Certainly, I am sure as Dr. Wright will testify to, we are very concerned about the disproportionate effects of some of these toxins. We are concerned that cleanup be certain to clean up the low income and African-American communities, as well as the rest of the community. We want to make sure there is full community involvement in those cleanup decisions. We need expanded testing. The testing EPA showed up on the map just moments ago is certainly, there are a lot of samples that have been taken in New Orleans proper. What about the hundreds of other locations where there are industrial facilities, all across the three states? What about all of the locations where we know drinking water supplies are knocked out? What about all the underground storage tanks that have been knocked out? What about the millions of gallons that have been spilled elsewhere? Are we monitoring that, and making that information available to the public in Mississippi, in Alabama, in locations other than New Orleans? And finally, I wanted to summarize the other major concerns we have, including the enormous amount of debris, 100 million cubic yards by some estimates, of debris. Is that going to be burned, as some are suggesting? It is a very deep concern that if there is going to widespread open burning. And in addition, we are very concerned that the cleanup standards be very high, and that we not adopt wide waivers. We heard EPA say that they have not yet identified any need for broad waivers. We have identified no need, and we are happy to submit to the record the numerous examples of waivers that are already allowed under current law. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Erik D. Olson follows:] Prepared Statement of Erik D. Olson, Senior Attorney, Natural Resources Defense Council Introduction Thank you for the opportunity to present testimony today. I am Erik D. Olson, a Senior Attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), a national non-profit public interest organization dedicated to the protection of public health and the environment, with over 500,000 members. As part of my work at NRDC, I have been helping to coordinate our response to Katrina. We have been working closely in this effort with a large number of other environmental, environmental justice, public health, medical, water industry [what's ``water industry''??], and other groups, including many organizations from Louisiana and Mississippi. I am in daily touch with hurricane survivors and with experts and others who are tracking the effects of this devastating storm, including my son who is assisting with hurricane relief efforts in Louisiana. In addition, I serve as chair of the Campaign for Safe & Affordable Drinking Water, an alliance of over 300 public health, consumer, medical, nursing, environmental, and other groups that works to ensure that all Americans have safe drinking water, and that has taken a special interest in the impacts of Katrina. Today, however, I appear only on behalf of NRDC. Mr. Chairman and other members of the Subcommittee, Katrina is perhaps the single worst environmental catastrophe ever to befall the United States as a result of a natural disaster. As any of the brave and stalwart citizens of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama who survived Hurricane Katrina will tell you, this disaster has left an indelible mark on them and their families, communities, and environment. The loss of human life and widespread human misery that Katrina caused and continues to cause as we sit in this room today, are simply unfathomable. I have been asked today to focus on the environmental effects of Katrina--and in particular on the potential effects of toxins in the storm-ravaged area. Specifically, I intend to focus primarily on the known and potential human health effects of the widespread releases of raw sewage, petroleum, and other toxins into the environment. Reports of Severe Pollution and Illnesses We are receiving regular, albeit anecdotal, reports of police, rescue workers, and ordinary people who have returned to or stayed in flooded areas and have become ill after contact with the flood water or muck. Reports of rashes and blisters where skin has contacted polluted water, infected sores that are not responsive to antibiotics, nausea, and vomiting are legion. Respiratory problems--including asthma among many people exposed to fumes in contaminated areas--also are being reported. One woman's brother returned to his home to try to recover a few belongings, only to vomit three times upon entering the home due to the stench of sewage, decay, and chemicals. I spoke to the mother of a young man who wore hip waders into floodwaters, but whose skin came in contact with the toxic water. The same day, he developed a rash and blisters where his skin had touched the water. We have heard from many local citizens about police officers and other emergency workers who have come into contact with the polluted flood water, only to develop rashes and other symptoms. The long-term effects of this toxic exposure are unknown, and of profound concern to us and to many local citizens. One public health nurse working with the Red Cross spoke to us and reported that she had seen, by her count, over a thousand evacuees in Mississippi, but she had no tetanus or hepatitis vaccine to give to evacuees who were planning to return home to their water-soaked communities. As the flood water recedes, and the toxin-laced sediment and residue dries, a fine dust begins to swirl with wind or disturbance. This fine, toxic dust presents a serious risk to citizens if inhaled. In many of the hardest-hit areas, people returning home do not have access to emergency medical services, nor to nearby health clinics, physicians, or hospital emergency rooms. Communications also remain difficult. It is therefore difficult to determine how widespread and serious these problems are, but it is likely that many people are suffering without appropriate medical care. There is an urgent need for better-coordinated and more comprehensive medical care and for ongoing disease surveillance. There are enormous health hazards from the runoff, which contains staggering quantities of untreated human and animal waste and decaying plants and animals. These risks are particularly pronounced as hundreds of thousands of people return to areas where the muck and standing water are a teeming stew of parasites and dangerous bacteria. Spills and Leaks of Oil and Toxic Chemicals are Numerous and Widespread According to U.S. Coast Guard and EPA data, as of September 18, 575 Katrina-related spills of petroleum or hazardous chemical had been reported. Just eleven significant spills released approximately 7 million gallons of oil, a portion of which was contained or cleaned up, but much of which was not. We also understand that there are 350,000 or more ruined automobiles and other vehicles caught by the flooding that will have to be dealt with. The amount of gasoline and toxic fluids in these vehicles alone is enough to give one pause; if each gas tank contained approximately 8 gallons of gasoline, this adds nearly 3 million additional gallons to the 7 million-gallon total noted above. By comparison, 11 million gallons of oil were released in the Exxon Valdez disaster. Moreover, at least four Superfund hazardous waste sites in the New Orleans area were hit by the storm. Across the storm-ravaged areas of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama dozens of other toxic waste sites, major industrial facilities, ports, barges, and vessels that handle enormous quantities of oil and hazardous chemicals took a direct blow from Katrina. In addition to oil and chemical spills, and potential releases from toxic waste or industrial facilities, one major source of toxins that has received very little public attention to date is the toxic sediment that has accumulated at the bottom of many of the lakes, rivers, and streams in industrialized areas over many decades due to industrial spills. These toxic underwater hotspots have long been of concern to state and federal officials. According to experts with whom we have spoken in Louisiana, many of these toxic hotspots have now been stirred up, and toxic sediment has been re-suspended, and re-deposited across large land areas, including in residential communities, by storm surge and floodwater. To date, virtually no public information is available about toxic chemical levels in areas outside of New Orleans area. Moreover, there have been virtually no public reports of the results of chemical testing or inspections of storm-damaged industrial facilities outside of this immediate area. EPA Monitoring Shows Dangerous Levels of Air Contamination from Spills & Releases, but Agency Public Statements Offer Misleading Reassurances to the Public About Safety Agency data also show that elevated levels of toxic chemicals such as benzene and xylene, in some cases levels above the 24-hour safety limits, have been found in the air adjacent to spills. Perhaps more troublingly, EPA has released air monitoring data from its Trace Atmospheric Gas Analyser (TAGA) buses and other monitors used across New Orleans, showing that contaminants are at unsafe levels for rehabitating certain parts of the city. NRDC has reached this conclusion by comparing benzene monitoring results, posted on EPA's web site, to levels that the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS) established to protect people from intermediate-term (e.g., two-week) exposures to this chemical--a level of 4 ppb. Significantly, in 25% of the areas sampled in New Orleans, EPA monitoring shows levels of benzene more then twice this NIEHS intermediate safety level. Yet EPA's charts and discussions on its website only compare elevated air pollution levels to the much higher (50 ppb) acute NIEHS safety level--that is, to a level that is only considered safe for very short-term (e.g., 24-hour) exposure. Moreover, no air or other sampling has been publicly reported for most areas around spills or chemical facilities outside of New Orleans. New Orleans Sampling Locations with More than Twice the NIEHS Safe Level of Exposure for Benzene ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Location PPB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Murphy Oil Refinery....................................... 88.0-170.0 LaSalle and Tulane Ave.................................... 8.2 Weidman and Monroe........................................ 8.5 Tall Timbers before Silver Maple Ct....................... 8.6 Cleveland St. and South Johnson........................... 18.0 Barataria Blvd between Jessie St. and Rt. 18.............. 11.0 N. Rampart and Canal...................................... 14.0 Wall Blvd and Pace........................................ 15.0 Tullis and Woodland near Cypress Grove Ct................. 15.3 Glenwood Drive & Fairmont................................. 11.0 Avenue A and Hector....................................... 21.0 Duplessis St. and Park St................................. 16.5 E. Maple Ridge Dr. and Maple Ridge Oak.................... 9.0 Convention Center Blvd.................................... 9.8 Oak Lawn and Veterans..................................... 8.5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Note: NRDC compared sampled concentrations to safe levels (4 ppb) for exposure over a two week period as calculated by NIEHS. This comparison is discussed in our testimony. Despite the inadequacy of these test results, EPA asserts in its public materials that, ``[t]he screening results indicated that chemical concentrations in most areas are below ATSDR health standards of concern.'' http://www.epa.gov/katrina/testresults/air/taga.html. These kinds of agency statements have undoubtedly led to widespread confusion and may have misled the public and local officials about the safety of returning to polluted areas. Returning Citizens and Many Responders Do Not Understand the Risks and Are Not Using Protective Clothing or Gear In light of the lack of adequate and accurate public information, people are returning to toxin-soaked areas without understanding the risks, and without being provided the proper protections, warnings, or knowledge. We are extremely concerned that there may be widespread illnesses and toxic exposure effects as toxin-soaked areas are repopulated. Many citizens are returning to petroleum or other toxin-tainted areas, generally using no masks or special protective clothing. EPA data show that not only does air pollution present a risk, but flood waters contain high levels of bacteria and other waterborne pathogens from raw sewage, and in many areas contain elevated levels of petroleum, lead, and other toxins. Many people--both ordinary citizens and emergency workers or police personnel--are breathing petroleum vapors, swishing through petroleum and other toxin-polluted water, or cleaning up polluted homes, businesses, and debris, with little or no personal protection. Whereas contract cleanup workers don Tyvek ``moon suits'' to go about their business of cleaning up oil and hazmat spills, the public generally is using no protection even though they may well experience dangerous levels of exposure. The National Contingency Plan and EPA and OSHA regulations require that anyone working on response to an oil or hazardous substance spill be provided with appropriate protective gear, and contract cleanup workers are in some cases wearing protective gear. But according to reports we have received, many local police and other emergency workers in the area are not wearing protection such as respirators and protective clothing. Environmental Injustices Will be Exacerbated Unless Cleanup and Rebuilding Changes There is a longstanding legacy of unfair and disproportionate toxic exposures to low income, predominantly African American communities in the New Orleans area and in much of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. This has resulted from years of industrial activity and waste disposal practices that hit these communities far harder than higher income, predominantly white communities. TRI and superfund facilities are located more often in low income areas and therefore are at greater risk to post-Katrina exposure. As cleanup proceeds and rebuilding begins, every effort must be made to remedy these environmental injustices through full cleanup, fair rebuilding practices, and full partnership with affected communities. Toxics Testing Must Be Enormously Expanded, and Results Must Be Widely and Immediately Disseminated in a Publicly Accessible Format EPA has released a limited amount of water, sediment, and air testing for the New Orleans area. There are literally hundreds of reported oil and toxics spills, industrial waste dumps, and industrial facilities that handle substantial quantities of toxic chemicals across Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama that were hit hard by Katrina, but for which there has been no reported toxics testing. In addition, even in those areas around New Orleans that were tested, often only a few samples have been reported for most locations, triggering concern that as water recedes or washes in from other locations, as re-flooding from Rita occurs, as leaks or spills spread, as waste leaches, or as other conditions change, toxic levels are likely to change as well. We also are deeply concerned that EPA has delayed reporting many of its test results. As hundreds of thousands of people are returning to evacuated communities, it is critical that EPA release its data immediately upon receiving them, to assure that the public and local officials are informed about the risks. In addition, we have heard from many local citizens that EPA's method of releasing the test results--on the web--is not an effective way to get information to the vast majority of evacuees who do not have internet access and are often not able to digest and understand the data. EPA and CDC's press conference warning of the risks of coming into contact with the flood waters was helpful, but came so long ago that it is for many a distant memory that does not touch upon the hazards today from the water, sediments, mold and other toxins citizens are likely to encounter as they return. The lack of regular, understandable, and repeatedly-reiterated information through the mainstream media about the toxics threats and the need to take appropriate precautions (e.g. rubber boots, Tyvek suits, masks or respirators, impermeable gloves) is likely to lead to continued widespread misunderstandings and health threats. EPA and Federal Officials Have ``Punted'' Their Responsibility to Assure the Safety of Returnees EPA is the nation's primary repository of expertise and regulatory and enforcement authority for controlling and responding to environmental toxin threats to the public's health. As such, the agency must assume the responsibility for assuring, after the massive spills and releases of oil and hazardous substances in the wake of Katrina, that the health of citizens living in or returning to the affected communities is fully protected. Under such laws as the Clean Water Act (CWA), Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA), Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act (CERCLA, or Superfund), and Oil Pollution Act (OPA), and under its own National Contingency Plan (NCP) regulations, EPA bears the lead responsibility for evaluating and acting to remedy environmental health threats. With respect to the Katrina response, EPA has the legal authority and both the moral and legal obligation to ensure that the health of citizens potentially exposed to toxic chemicals as a result of hazardous substance or oil releases is fully protected. The NCP regulations impose numerous obligations on the agency to ensure that its response to releases of hazardous substances or oil protect exposed citizens. For example, the NCP requires that after an oil spill, ``[d]efensive actions shall begin as soon as possible to prevent, minimize, or mitigate threat(s) to the public health or welfare of the United States or the environment.'' 40 C.F.R. 300.310(a)(emphasis added). Similarly, if ``the discharge poses or may present a substantial threat to public health or welfare of the United States, the [EPA representative] shall direct all federal, state, or private actions to remove the discharge or to mitigate or prevent the threat of such a discharge, as appropriate.'' Id. 300.322(b)(emphasis added). Similarly, under RCRA section 7003(c)(emphasis added), Upon receipt of information that there is hazardous waste at any site which has presented an imminent and substantial endangerment to human health or the environment, the [EPA] Administrator shall provide immediate notice to the appropriate local government agencies. In addition, the Administrator shall require notice of such endangerment to be promptly posted at the site where the waste is located. Thus, it is not only EPA's moral obligation to assure that citizens potentially at risk from an oil or hazardous substance release are adequately warned and protected, but also the agency's legal obligation. Unfortunately, EPA apparently has decided to ``punt'' to local authorities the responsibility to protect citizens' health in the wake of the massive Katrina-related oil and hazardous chemical releases. Generally, these local authorities do not have a significant staff of environmental health experts available, nor do they enjoy access to the array of expertise and scientific information that EPA has. They also are under enormous political pressure to allow rapid repopulation of the toxin-soaked areas. EPA has repeatedly stated that it is not the agency's obligation to decide whether environmental conditions in New Orleans and other areas affected by toxins and oil pollution are so dangerous as to warrant continued quarantine or additional cleanup prior to general repopulation of the affected areas. Instead, EPA and FEMA say these decisions are a local responsibility. EPA has even refused to make an explicit public statement about whether it is safe for the public to return to New Orleans and other hard-hit areas. The agency has neither the legal nor the moral right to pass the buck in this way, particularly since local authorities are working under difficult conditions, with communication limitations, displaced staff and other unimaginable challenges. Enormous Debris Disposal Operations, Including Proposals for Open Burning, Pose Huge Hazards According to recent reports, an estimated 100 million cubic yards of debris have been generated by Katrina--enough to cover over 1,000 football fields 50-feet-deep with waste. This far exceeds the waste generated by any previous hurricane, and dwarfs the 1.5 million tons of debris from the World Trade Center attacks on 9/11.While some of this debris is merely downed trees or vegetation, much of it is destroyed housing, commercial buildings, 350,000 ruined vehicles, and a wide array of other detritus, much of which has been soaked by petroleum or other toxic chemicals, and much of which is intermixed with plastics and other materials that will become toxic if burned. Disposal of this material presents an enormous challenge with no easy answers. Clearly, every effort must be made to recycle what can be salvaged. For example, ``white goods'' such as refrigerators, washers, dryers, air conditioners, etc., should, if possible, be recycled and any Freon removed. Steel and scrap metal from ruined vehicles and many destroyed structures also can be recycled. But clearly, there is not yet a disposal site for much of the rest of the waste. Reportedly, contracts for over a billion dollars for debris hauling and disposal have been issued. The open burning of some debris has already begun, according to eyewitness accounts. In addition, state officials have begun to waive air pollution requirements and open burning bans. Much of the burning will occur in open pits with ``air curtains,'' which have been advertised to control air emissions. Yet air curtains do not collect the air pollution--they blow air over the fire to improve oxygen flow and burning efficiency, but they do not collect the fumes or smoke. There are a few mobile incinerators with air pollution controls, but clearly these incinerators do not have adequate capacity to handle most of the debris. We are deeply concerned about the public health impacts of widespread open burning of materials that are likely to generate large amounts of toxic gases and particulate matter. There are anecdotal reports that open burning of debris after previous hurricanes lead to increases in admissions to hospitals due to respiratory ailments. People whose health is already threatened by immediate exposure to toxins from spills and leaks and polluted water will only be put at greater risk. Waste industry experts report that waste is being hauled to staging areas across Mississippi and Louisiana, and that Katrina waste disposal will occur not only in these states but also throughout the South. It is important that such disposal not add to the health threats and environmental injustices already suffered by many low-income and minority communities. For example, the Agriculture Street landfill in New Orleans, a controversial Superfund site that already threatened the health of a low income, predominantly African American community, received much of the waste from previous hurricanes, and was flooded after the recent levy breaks. As we plan the disposal strategy for wastes left by Katrina, we must consider the very real possibility that future storms will similarly inundate local disposal sites. Ecological Impacts of Katrina and Rita We are not only concerned about the enormous public health risks posed by Katrina and exacerbated by Rita, but also the ecological effects of these storms. The associated spills, storm surge, and floodwaters often have carried salt water and pollution into sensitive and ecologically important waters and marshes that serve as the nursery for many rare birds, as well as fish, shrimp, and other forms of life. Reports are beginning to trickle in that serious saltwater contamination of freshwater wetlands is widespread in the storm-ravaged areas. In addition, huge oil and hazardous substance spills are likely to add to the adverse impacts. It is important that recovery efforts address these problems, and that natural resource damage assessments are funded and completed to determine the extent of the harm. Cleanup and Rebuilding Should Proceed With Strong Health Protections; Waivers of Environmental Laws Would Kick Hurricane Victims While They Are Down New Orleans and the other storm-ravaged areas of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama must be cleaned up and rebuilt to become healthy, thriving communities once again. Throughout this effort, cleanup standards and other health safeguards must be kept strong, to assure that people made vulnerable by the storm are not further threatened by inadequate cleanups or irresponsible reconstruction practices. Accordingly, we and the local citizens with whom we have been in constant contact strongly oppose proposals to weaken cleanup or pollution standards--in the Gulf states or anywhere else in the country. Such an approach would kick these communities while they are down. It also would unnecessarily and unjustifiably threaten public health and the environment in other parts of the country. Already, there are several harmful bills introduced in Congress that would allow further harm to the health of the hurricane victims, while jeopardizing public health and environmental safeguards across the nation. While there may be the need for very limited, time-restricted waivers of certain requirements in consultation with the public, current law provides such authorities to EPA and often to state authorities. Sweeping waivers or weakening of current health and environmental protections are ill-advised and will only further hurt the victims of Katrina and Rita. Local Citizens, Including Low-Income and Predominantly African-American Communities, Should Be Fully Informed and Integrated into Cleanup and Rebuilding Decisions It is critically important that local citizens be fully informed about the risks they face, and that these citizens be included as full partners in cleanup and rebuilding decisions. Involvement of all communities, including the low-income and predominantly African American communities hardest hit by Katrina, is critically important to a successful rebuilding effort. The National Contingency Plan requires public disclosure of information and involvement in cleanup and response efforts, and many federal laws, such as RCRA and CERCLA, as well as the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), require public involvement in government decision making about environmental cleanup, waste disposal, or rebuilding efforts. Without this involvement, there will be widespread suspicion and anger from the very communities that the response actions and rebuilding are intended to help. Further disenfranchisement of already disenfranchised communities will seriously undermine the success of any government cleanup and rebuilding program. After Katrina: New Solutions for Safe Communities and a Secure Energy Future NRDC recently published a report, After Katrina: New Solutions for Safe Communities and a Secure Energy Future, which I am attaching to this testimony. This report addresses many of the reasons why past poor environmental policies made Katrina worse, and makes a series of recommendations for responding to the disaster, rebuilding better and safer communities, and developing a more responsible energy program that would reduce the threat that such catastrophic disasters pose to our energy supply and nation. Below, we summarize this report. Katrina's Lessons Hurricane Katrina exposed shocking holes in both our social fabric and our security safety net when she tore through the Gulf Coast. The storm also carried important lessons about management--or mismanagement--of essential health and environmental safeguards. Hurricanes are a fact of life on the Gulf Coast, and, invariably, some turn deadly. But decisions made by policymakers and elected officials have tremendous influence on our ability to absorb a storm's brute force. Their choices will also determine how quickly and how well communities cope with Katrina's environmental fallout, and whether low- income people of color will suffer as disproportionately in the aftermath as they did in the storm itself. A century of poor planning and industrial abuse has stripped away much of the Gulf Coast's natural protection against storms and flooding. More than 1 million acres of coastal wetlands in Louisiana have been drained, lost to development, or starved of the Mississippi River sediments they need to survive. These wetlands could have absorbed storm surge and floodwaters, substantially reducing the storm's impact. When the storm came ashore, it swamped aging, underfunded drinking water and sewage systems and hit more than 60 major industrial facilities and four Superfund waste sites hard in New Orleans alone, adding unknown toxins to the stinking, toxic flood. Katrina caused nine oil spills totaling more than 7 million gallons, together ranking as one of the biggest U.S. spills in history. By contrast, the price shocks still rippling though the oil markets are not ultimately of Katrina's making. Rather they are due to soaring energy demand caused by years of official refusal to tackle our nation's energy dependence by diversifying our energy sources and improving fuel economy performance standards. Fixing these problems will make Gulf Coast communities safer and more secure and reduce the longterm cost of coping with the disaster. Lessons from Katrina will pay dividends in other regions subject to extreme weather disasters as well. Planning for a Change The Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) has assembled a team of its best experts on public health, toxic waste, urban design, coastal protection, energy security, and global warming to present a set of policies and practices to protect the safety and well-being of Gulf Coast residents--today, during the recovery, and onward into a healthier, more sustainable future. Protect Gulf Coast Communities from Toxic and Biological Hazards The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and independent experts should immediately broaden toxicity testing of water, sediments, and soils, as well as biomonitoring and health surveillance of responders and the public. Immediate widespread testing of water, sediment, and dried mud is critical to ensuring the safety of cleanup workers and returning residents, and for identifying toxic hot spots for containment and cleanup. Big industrial facilities, Superfund sites, and other toxic hotspots should be catalogued and evaluated, and any dangerous releases contained immediately. Immediate public disclosure of all information is also critical. Quickly Restore Safe, Clean Drinking Water Supplies More than two weeks after Hurricane Katrina hit land on September 17, 2005, 186 public water treatment systems in Louisiana and 229 in Mississippi were seriously compromised, completely out of commission, or unaccounted for; and 172 sewage treatment plants were not fully functioning. Hundreds more in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama were operational but expected to need repair or reconstruction. New Orleans' drinking water system was completely knocked out but has started pumping non-potable water in some areas for fire control. All told, at least 2.4 million people were without access to safe drinking water and bacteria levels in floodwaters greatly exceeded public health standards shortly after Katrina. All these systems will need financial and technical assistance to get back into full, safe operation. Restore Natural Coastal Buffers to Protect Against Storms Natural coastal barriers on the Gulf have nearly been destroyed by decades of industrial misuse and government-sponsored re-engineering gone awry. We must adopt a major coastal wetland restoration program in the wake of Katrina to build back what we ourselves destroyed. It is also critical to ensure that flood control projects ordered by Congress and developed by the Army Corps of Engineers are prioritized to protect population centers and serve legitimate flood control purposes, not the call of pork-barrel politics. Rebuild for a Safe, Secure, Sustainable Future Now is a chance to restore New Orleans' 19th century elegance using today's know-how and technology. That means energy-efficient, weather- resistant housing designed according to voluntary federal standards that save money and improve comfort for people who live there, no matter what their income. And it means family-friendly, mixed-use, mixed income walkable communities like many affected areas had in earlier days. Maintain Health and Environmental Safeguards Lobbyists and their congressional allies are already lining up hoping to undercut long-standing health and environmental safeguards in the name of hurricane recovery. In a few select cases, it may make sense to make temporary accommodations in federal health and environmental rules to address legitimate needs. But nearly all of these can be accommodated without changes in current law, much less the blanket suspension legal safeguard being proposed by special interests. Repair the Racial and Economic Inequity of Health and Environmental Risk Environmental injustices have long plagued New Orleans and the Gulf Coast region. Cleanup efforts should adhere firmly to the standing Federal Executive Order designed to ensure environmental justice for communities of low income and color that are exposed to inequitable amounts of toxic pollution. In the rebuilding process, local governments' exercise of eminent domain powers should not be used to take properties in low-income communities of color. Permanently Protect American Consumers from Energy Price Spikes In the wake of Katrina, oil and natural gas prices were skyrocketing. Although the worst of the panic induced run-up has abated, prices remain extremely high and experts are predicting a painfully expensive winter heating season. We cannot drill our way to energy security. The only real solution is to reduce the amount of energy we need to keep the economy humming. That means stronger fuel economy standards and rules requiring more efficient heating and air conditioning equipment and other energy conservation technologies. Prevent the Added Threat of Global Warming Global warming didn't cause Katrina. But experts agree the warming climate caused by heat-trapping pollution is adding fuel to tropical storms--elevating category 3 storms into category 4 and so forth. Hotter climate also means more flood risk due to rising sea levels. There is growing bipartisan support in Congress and many states for concrete, market-based limits on global warming pollution. Mr. Bass. Thank you very much, Mr. Olson. Ms. Wright, Dr. Wright. STATEMENT OF BEVERLY WRIGHT Ms. Wright. Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, Mr. Chairman. I am Dr. Beverly Wright, Director of the Deep South Center for Environmental Justice at Dillard University in New Orleans, Louisiana, formerly at Xavier University. Regrettably, both of these historically black colleges are underwater now, and temporarily closed due to Hurricane Katrina. I have prepared a statement to present, taken from my testimony, but after listening to Mr. Olson, I decided that I would just, rather just give you some additional information that is of great concern to me and the people that I work with. I am a lifelong resident of New Orleans, Louisiana, went away to school to New York, but always loved that city, and found my way back. Today, I find myself extremely distressed over what has happened to my city, and what has happened to my people. Some of you may be aware, and may be not, but the majority of the city, two thirds of that city, that has, in fact, been destroyed, where some of us believe we may be permanently displaced, were where African-Americans lived. And there were two significant areas that were impacted, the Lower Ninth Ward, that you hear so much about, and what people may not know is that those person in the Lower Ninth Ward, though poor, were working poor, and they owned all of those houses in that area, and have been there for many years, and it was a very strong voting population. The other part of the city that was destroyed is where I lived, and where everybody that I know and love lived, and that is Eastern New Orleans, which was made up of most of your black professionals, doctors, lawyers, teachers, and even those of us who had managed to become extremely wealthy. That particular part of the city has also been destroyed. I hear all kinds of conversations about testing and people going back in, but no one is talking about New Orleans East or the Lower Ninth Ward, and just how devastated those areas are. The fact that we have been displaced will dramatically change the racial composition of that particular city, a city that I, where I can trace my ancestry back to Free Coloreds. Me and my family have lived there all my life, and never planned to leave. We have now been forced out. One of the real concerns that I have is what is happening as it relates to persons going back into the city to try to recoup any or all of what they can of their lives. For example, my mother passed away in April. I was in the process of collecting all of her pictures from childhood, and those pictures have been destroyed completely. I have nothing left of her. So, when you hear people talk about wanting to go home, even when things are dangerous, you have to understand the emotions that go along with trying to get back to your house. I am concerned, because no one seems to be telling people how dangerous it is. The reports of the mold are unbelievable, reports of mold are unbelievable. I mean, they have completely consumed our homes, and it is now climbing upstairs. If you had a two story house, it is moving upstairs. It is covering every piece of furniture, and the mold is of every color that you can imagine. And of course, we are wondering about black mold. People in New Orleans will be returning there on the 5th of September. I believe that is part of this supposed organized plan, I can tell you that plan is chaotic. There are meetings once a week at the City Capital and people are just turning up at those meetings in hundreds, trying to find out when they can get in, how they can get in, but no one is giving them any real scientific information about what the place is like. I am hearing words of people who are going in and then becoming extremely depressed, because they are going in expecting to see what they saw after Betsy, because as you know, people in New Orleans are kind of used to hurricanes and water rising, but this is not like anything that we have ever seen. I am very concerned that people will become ill. People are taking out clothing covered with mold. They are finding back ways into the city. Any way that they can get in, they are going. We really and truly need to have some kind of Katrina survivor kit, or something that people are given before they go into the communities. I am told that they are given a handout. I have not seen it. Nobody has any information that I know. People that I know have nothing to warn them about what is going on, what the hazards are when they get there, or what they should do once they are inside. There is almost terror in the eyes of so many people, when they, in fact, think about never returning home. Some kind of structured response needs to go forward, and African-Americans in the city of New Orleans, those of us who have worked all our lives for what we have, and we have lost it, need to be told something. I am really begging the Environmental Protection Agency to do a better job than what it is doing. I have worked with EPA for years. I have fought with them, and fought with them. On this particular issue, I have to tell you I am very disappointed. I hear words about Lake Pontchartrain. Well, you know, that is a really big lake, and so if a lot of nasty stuff flows into it, it may survive, but my house won't. And so, all of those chemicals that were going into a huge lake that is a lot of water, have also gone through my house, and I have nothing to wash it away. There is nothing to decrease the amounts of the contaminants in my house, or the houses of those people that I love. I know I am forgetting something really important, because I am getting a little emotional, but I thank you for allowing me to speak. And this one last thing: I almost forgot. There are counties in Mississippi, and we have been getting calls from them, who have not received any help from the Red Cross or anybody. They have no electricity. They have no water. They have no ice. They have no food. And we are getting these calls, and people are trying to respond. We would like to know how we can advocate on their behalf, to make sure that these communities in Mississippi, rural communities, that are sitting way back someplace that most people don't know about, trees are down, wires are down, and they are really suffering. Mississippi was hit very hard, just as Louisiana was, and so was Alabama. New Orleans was hit in a different kind of way, one that is really devastating for us, but all of the people of the Gulf Coast need to have better attention made, given to them, especially as it is related to them, their being able to return home. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Beverly Wright follows:] Prepared Statement of Beverly Wright, Director, Deep South Center for Environmental Justice and Co-Chair, National Black Environmental Justice Network Good morning Mr. Chairman. I am Dr. Beverly Wright, Director of the Deep South Center on Environmental Justice at Dillard University, formerly at Xavier University. Regrettably, both of these Historically Black Colleges are underwater now and temporarily closed due to Hurricane Katrina. I am also here today representing the National Black Environmental Justice Network (NBEJN), which was founded in New Orleans, LA in December 1999. People of African descent in the United States organized ourselves in response to what we know is a State of Emergency in Black America. NBEJN members founded the organization in New Orleans because we felt then, as now, that Louisiana and the Chemical Corridor between the City and Baton Rouge are under siege from and epitomize environmental and economic assaults. These assaults are costing Black people their very lives. NBEJN believes in the sacred value of every human life regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or socioeconomic status. We see in the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Rita and the aftermath a unique opportunity to shape the conversation and dialogue about rebuilding of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast region with the goals of environmental and economic justice for everyone. Thank you for the opportunity to testify before the Subcommittee on critical issues of concern in the aftermath of the hurricanes. My professional and personal experiences of growing up, living and working in the City of New Orleans greatly influence my perspective and testimony. Who We Are The Deep South Center for Environmental Justice (DSCEJ), at Dillard University in New Orleans, formerly at Xavier University of Louisiana, is now temporarily relocated in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The Deep South Center was launched in 1992 in collaboration with community environmental groups and other universities within the southern region to address environmental justice issues. DSCEJ provides opportunities for communities, scientific researchers, and decision makers to collaborate on programs and projects that promote the rights of all people to be free from environmental harm as it impacts health, jobs, housing, education, and general quality of life. A major goal of the Center is development of minority leadership in the areas of environmental, social, and economic justice along the Mississippi River Chemical Corridor. The Deep South Center for Environmental Justice is a powerful resource for environmental justice education and training. DSCEJ has developed and embraces a model for community partnership that is called ``communiversity.'' The essence of this approach is an acknowledgement that for effective research and policy-making, valuable community life experiences regarding environmental impacts must be integrated with the theoretical knowledge of academic educators and researchers. The Deep South Center for Environmental Justice has three components in terms of reaching our objectives: (1) research and policy studies, (2) community outreach assistance and education; and (3) primary, secondary, and university education. Target Aea and Population Served DSCEJ is national in scope with emphasis on the Mississippi River Chemical Corridor and Gulf Coast Region and global emphasis on communities impacted by the petrochemical industry. The major populations served include people of color with special concentration on African Americans and the African Diaspora, students and faculty at Historically Black Colleges And Universities/Minority Serving Institutions (HBCU/MSI) and public school teachers in urban areas. DSCEJ has forged collaborations with other major research institutions and governmental agencies that can assist in the development and implementation of the center's work. Center Objectives DSCEJ principal objectives include: (1) development of minority leadership in the field of environmental justice; (2) development of culturally sensitive training models for minority residents in at-risk communities; (3) development and distribution of culturally sensitive environmental justice education materials and training modules; (4) increasing environmental justice literacy among college students at HBCU/MSI's; (5) development of a pipeline creating a new generation of environmental justice leaders at HBCU/MSI's; (6) development and implementation of a K-12 teacher training program in environmental justice; (7) conducting research to determine the impact and extent of toxic exposure for minority communities as it affects health and the environment; (8) investigating means of addressing these problems (i.e., brownfields redevelopment, toxics use reduction, climate change, clean production and green chemistry, and economic development; and (9) creating linkages between impacted communities, scientific researchers, and government officials to address environmental justice issues as they impact health, jobs, housing, and overall quality of life. Katrina Aftermath As the floodwaters recede in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast region, it is clear that the lethargic and inept emergency response immediately following this devastating storm was the real disaster that nearly overshadowed the actual storm. We were all left nearly paralyzed in front of our television sets completely unable to continue with our daily lives watching the unbelievable events unfold right before our eyes. Americans were shocked beyond belief that this could happen in America, to Americans. It also raised lingering questions and doubts about our overall security. Is government equipped to plan for, militate against, respond to, and recover from natural and manmade disasters? Can the public trust government's response to be fair? Does race matter? Examination of historical data reveals that emergency response reflects the pre-existing socioeconomic and political structures of a disaster area and is based on race and class differentials. Generally communities of color receive less priority in response time than do their white counterparts where emergency response is required. Before Hurricane Katrina--Pre Existing Vuknerabilities Katrina struck a region that is disproportionately African American and poor. For example African Americans make up twelve percent of the United States population. New Orleans is nearly 68 percent black. The African American population in the Coastal Mississippi counties where Katrina struck ranged from 25 percent to 87 percent black. Some 28 percent of New Orleans residents live below the poverty level and more than 80 percent of those are black. 50 percent of all New Orleans children live in poverty. The poverty rate was 17.7 percent in Gulfport, Ms. And 21.2 percent in Mobile, Al. in 2000. Nationally, 11.3 percent of Americans and 22.1 percent of African Americans live below the poverty line in 2000. New Orleans is prototypical of environmental justice issues in the Gulf Coast region. Before Katrina, the City of New Orleans was struggling with a wide range of environmental justice issues and concerns. Its location along the Mississippi River Chemical Corridor increased its vulnerability to environmental threats. The City had an extremely high childhood environmental lead poisoning problem. There were ongoing air quality impacts and resulting high asthma and respiratory disease rates and frequent visits to emergency rooms for treatment by both children and adults. Environmental health problems and issues related to environmental exposure was a grave issue of concern for New Orleans residents. The African American community in New Orleans was already grappling with the nationally identified health disparities for minorities reported by the National Institutes of Health (NIH). These conditions were exacerbated by environmental conditions triggering asthma and exposing children to lead. High blood pressure, diabetes and cancer were also prevalent in the African American community. Displacement Post Katrina Residents in the Gulf Coast region fled the hurricane zone. More than a million Louisiana residents fled Hurricane Katrina. An estimated 100,000 to 300,000 Louisiana residents alone could end up permanently displaced. Nearly 100,000 Katrina evacuees are in 1,042 shelters scattered in 26 states and the District of Columbia. Katrina has left environmental contamination in Gulf Coast neighborhoods that will have to be cleaned up before residents can move back. An estimated 150,000 houses may be lost as a result of standing in water from Katrina. We are still grappling with understanding the full impacts of both Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Thousands of hurricane survivors along the Gulf Coast must now cope with the loss of relatives and friends, homes, and businesses and, what we term, loss of community. Katrina displaced just under 350,000 school children in the Gulf Coast. An estimated 187,000 school children have been displaced in Louisiana, 160,000 in Mississippi and 3,118 in Alabama. Katrina closed the entire New Orleans school system indefinitely. One hundred and twenty-five thousand New Orleans children alone are attending schools elsewhere. Over 93 percent of New Orleans schools students are African American. Evacuees' children are being enrolled in schools from Arizona to Pennsylvania, including almost 19,000 who will be attending schools in Texas. For the survivors who lost everything, it involves coping with the stress of starting all over. Two weeks after Katrina struck, more than 2,500 children were still separated from their families. One can only imagine the mental anguish these families are going through. On the heels of this disaster, Hurricane Rita struck the coastal areas again. Environmental Damage New Orleans and outlying areas suffered severe environmental damage during Katrina, the extent to which has yet to be determined. The post- Katrina New Orleans has been described as a ``cesspool'' of toxic chemicals, human waste, decomposing flesh and surprises that remain to be uncovered in the sediments. Massive amounts of toxic chemicals were used and stored along the Gulf Coast before the storm. Literally thousands of sites in the storms path used or stored hazardous chemicals, from the local dry cleaner and auto repair shops to Superfund sites and oil refineries in Chalmette and Meraux, La, where there are enormous stores of ultra-hazardous hydrofluoric acid. In the aftermath of the storm some sites were damaged and leaked. Residents across the Gulf Coast and the media reported, ``oil spills, obvious leaks from plants, storage tankards turned on end and massive fumes.'' Short-term rebuilding objectives must not outweigh long-term public health protection for all Americans and the environment they depend upon. Some of the legislative proposals now under consideration in the aftermath of Katrina do not adhere to this principle. Congress must act now to protect our most vulnerable populations and preserve our most unique and irreplaceable resources. It is imperative that Congress responds quickly and effectively to the devastating aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. It is also important, to temper our haste to rebuild with balance in our response to ensure appropriate respect for public health and the environment. Moreover, the public has a right to clean air and water and it must be protected. There is much speculation about what the new New Orleans will look like: whether the Mississippi Gulf Coast should now consider land-based Casinos versus riverboats; the social economic and political structure of ``New'' New Orleans; rebuilding a green and sustainable Gulf Coast region that embraces innovative green building technologies and principles; construction of a levee system that will protect New Orleans; and development of environmentally and economically sustainable communities must all be explored simultaneously. None of these concepts are relevant unless the cleanup in the region is properly conducted and completed. This conclusion is not based on speculation. The community of Agriculture Street Landfill in the City of New Orleans has lived the nightmare of discovering that their homes were built on top of a landfill that was reopened to dispose of the tons of debris resulting from Hurricane Betsy. Hurricane Betsy--New Orleans, Louisiana Hurricane Betsy struck the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans in 1965. Betsy was then the ``most destructive hurricane on record to strike the Louisiana coast.'' <SUP>1</SUP> The damage and flooding throughout the State covered 4,800 square miles, killed 81 persons, caused the evacuation of 250,000 persons, and disrupted transportation, communication, and utilities services throughout the eastern coastal area of Louisiana for weeks. Betsy hit the mostly Black and poor New Orleans Lower Ninth Ward especially hard. This is the same neighborhood that was inundated by floodwaters from Katrina and then suffered the indignity of a second flooding by Rita. Over 98 percent of the Lower Ninth Ward residents are Black and a third live below the poverty level. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ Craig E. Colten and John Welch. ``Hurricane Betsy and Its Effects on the Architecture Integrity of the Bywater Neighborhood: Summary.'' May 2003. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many Black New Orleans residents still believe that white officials intentionally broke the levee and flooded the Lower Ninth Ward to save mostly white neighborhoods and white business districts. In 1965, a disproportionately large share of Lower Ninth Ward residents did not receive adequate post-disaster financial assistance in the form of loans and other support to revitalize the area. Betsy accelerated the decline of the neighborhood and out-migration of many of its longtime residents. Debris from Betsy was buried in the Agricultural Street Landfill--located in a predominately Black New Orleans neighborhood. Over 390 homes were built on the northern portion of the site from 1976-1986. The Agricultural Street Landfill neighborhood was added to the National Priorities List as a Superfund site in 1994.<SUP>2</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ See Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Public Health Assessment--Agriculture Street Landfill, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, Atlanta, GA: ATSDR (June, 1999); Alicia Lyttle, Agriculture Street Landfill Environmental Justice Case Study, University of Michigan School of Natural Resources, Ann Arbor, Michigan (January 2003). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Orleans Agriculture Street Landfill Community Dozens of toxic time bombs along Louisiana's Mississippi River petrochemical corridor, the 85-mile stretch from Baton Rouge to New Orleans, make the region a major environmental justice battleground. The corridor is commonly referred to as Cancer Alley. Black communities all along the corridor have been fighting against environmental racism and demanding relocation to areas away from polluting facilities.<SUP>3</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \3\ Robert D. Bullard, The Quest For Environmental Justice: Human Rights and the Politics of Pollution (San Francisco: Sierra Club Books, 2005. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Two largely Black New Orleans subdivisions, Gordon Plaza and Press Park, have special significance in terms of environmental justice and emergency response. Both subdivisions are built on a portion of land that was used as a municipal landfill for more than 50 years. The Agriculture Street Landfill, covering approximately 190 acres, was used as a city dump as early as 1910. Municipal records indicate that after 1950, the landfill was mostly used to discard large solid objects, including trees and lumber, and it was a major source for dumping debris from the very destructive 1965 Hurricane Betsy. It is important to note that the landfill was classified as a solid waste site and not a hazardous waste site. In 1969, the federal government created a home ownership program to encourage lower income families to purchase their first home. Press Park was the first subsidized housing project of this program in New Orleans. The federal program allowed tenants to apply 30 percent of their monthly rental payments toward the purchase of a family home. In 1987, seventeen years later, the first sale was completed. In 1977, construction began on a second subdivision, Gordon Plaza. This development was planned, controlled, and constructed by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and the Housing Authority of New Orleans (HANO). Gordon Plaza consists of approximately 67 single-family homes. In 1983, a portion of the Agriculture Street Landfill site was purchased by the Orleans Parish School Board as a site for a school. The fact that this site had previously been used as a municipal dump prompted concerns about the suitability of the site for a school. The school board contracted engineering firms to survey the site and assess it for contamination and hazardous materials. Heavy metals and organics were detected. Despite the warnings, Moton Elementary School, an $8 million state- of-the-art public school opened with 421 students in 1989. In May 1986, EPA performed a site inspection (SI) in the Agriculture Street Landfill community. Although lead, zinc, mercury, cadmium, and arsenic were found at the site, based on the Hazard Ranking System (HRS) model used at that time, the score of 3 was not high enough to place them on the National Priority List (NPL). On December 14, 1990, EPA published a revised HRS model in response to the Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act (SARA) of 1986. At the request of community leaders, in September 1993, an Expanded Site Inspection (ESI) was conducted. On December 16, 1994, the Agriculture Street Landfill community was placed on the NPL with a new score of 50. The Agriculture Street Landfill community was home to approximately 900 African American residents. The average family income is $25,000 and the educational level is high school graduate and above. The community pushed for a buy-out of their property and to be relocated. However, this was not the resolution of choice by EPA. A cleanup was ordered at a cost of $20 million, the community buy-out would have cost only $14 million. The actual cleanup began in 1998 and was completed in 2001.<SUP>4</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \4\ Alcia Lyttle, ``Agricultural Street Landfill Environmental Justice Case Study,'' University of Michigan School of Natural Resource and Environment found at http://www.umich.edu/snre492/Jones/ agstreet.htm. (Accessed on October 6, 2004). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Concerned Citizens of Agriculture Street Landfill filed a class action suit against the City of New Orleans for damages and relocation costs. It took nine years to bring this case to court.<SUP>5</SUP> The case was still pending before Katrina struck. It is ironic that the environmental damage wrought by Katrina may force the cleanup and relocation of the Agriculture Street Landfill community. But nothing can give them back their health and well being, or replace the family members and friends who might still be with them were it not for the health effects of living on a landfill. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \5\ Robert D. Bullard, The Quest For Environmental Justice: Human Rights and the Politics of Pollution. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Have we learned anything over the last 40 years, since Hurricane Betsy struck, that should guide our decisions after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita? Much of the proposed legislation concerning rebuilding the Gulf Coast region strongly suggests that we have not. In fact, it seems that some are using the crisis of Hurricane Katrina to advance their political and policy agenda, including weakening, waiving and rolling back public health, environmental justice and environmental laws and regulations. It is ironic that the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina is being used to justify sweeping waivers of public health, safety and environmental laws. S. 1711 would confer on the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) sole and absolute authority to waive federal or state laws anywhere in the country for up to one and a half years. In addition, the waiver authority would extend well beyond environmental laws. EPA need only claim such waiver is in the public interest and is somehow linked to Hurricane Katrina. The Agency need not demonstrate that waivers are required to protect public health and safety, and there is no requirement that EPA provide any public health protection in exchange for granting waivers. Foremost, Senate Bill 1711 and other legislation of this ilk threatens the most vulnerable communities in the Gulf Coast, and those living in the shadows of oil refineries, by authorizing the elimination of protection that ensures that residents have clean water to drink, clean air to breathe, and the right to live in a toxic-free community. With the hurricane devastation disproportionately hurting poor and minority residents already, this bill adds insult to injury by allowing private industry to operate above the law and risks more suffering on the part of people most affected by the hurricane. Remember the lessons of Betsy and remember the Agriculture Street Landfill community. EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson told Congress on September 13, 2005 that the Agency has all the authority needed under existing law to respond to Hurricane Katrina and has already used that authority to relax some environmental programs. Granting EPA unlimited waiver authority and opening the door to risking the health and safety of millions of Americans is not the way to help Gulf Coast states recover from Hurricane Katrina. According to EPA tests, the biological threats from the flood include elevated levels of E coli bacteria and toxic mold. Contamination from industrial facilities pose a more troubling long- term concern with more than 40 oil spills recently reported in Louisiana by the Coast Guard and thousands of chemical containers spotted bubbling in the region's flood water. The oozing sediments that coat flood impacted areas may yield an even greater danger in the coming months as the ground dries, releasing airborne contaminants like harmful organic gases such as the highly toxic methane and fuel vapors. The potential health effects range from allergic reaction to organic damage. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has released test results for toxic chemicals in floodwaters for less than 30 sampling sites, all in downtown New Orleans, far from hot spots in outlying areas. Even these ``limited results were weeks old despite'' ever-increasing numbers of clean-up crews and residents pouring into surrounding parishes. EPA's Response to Katrina web page indicates only a ``few hazardous'' chemicals having been found in quantities over their acceptable limits none of which present a substantial risk to the public. Also, risk to human health posed by hazardous chemicals likely to be present in flood-ravaged areas is conspicuously absent from publicly available information. EPA's website provides no information that would help someone identify symptoms of potentially life threatening or debilitating exposures to hazardous chemicals as they do for bacterial contaminant exposures such as E coli. In closing, and speaking as a life long resident of the City of New Orleans, for the last fifteen years, I have fought for a better quality of life for New Orleans citizens and those living along the Mississippi River Chemical Corridor, infamously known as Cancer Alley. I have worked with government to ensure environmental protection for communities. I have fought against environmental racism and for environmental justice for all, and I am greatly concerned about what I have seen in response to Katrina. What local communities in the Gulf coast region need now from government agencies is the truth even if it hurts. Please level with the American people before we return to our homes or send our children back to school, so that we can make the best possible choices under these circumstances. The right thing to do is to expand chemical testing, provide more timely and forthcoming test results, and engage stakeholders, especially those from the impacted region. Under this approach, EPA and other government agencies might be successful this time in carrying out their charge of protecting the public. If Katrina has taught us nothing else, it has shown us how essential access to information is to our ability to deal with crises. By not being forthcoming with information and not providing transparency in the process, agencies endanger American lives and further tarnish their own credibility. In the wake of Katrina, there should be: Timely and accurate information about risk and a coherent plan to address hazards; EPA and Congress should provide enhanced air and water quality monitoring to both inform the clean-up process and to give confidence to citizens and businesses returning and rebuilding New Orleans and the Gulf Coast; Citizens should know that their health is being protected by EPA and government agencies; and Citizens should be given clear and accurate instruction on procedures for reentering the City and other areas in the Gulf Coast region to protect their health. I have attached for your consideration a Resolution issued by the National Black Environmental Justice Network which outlines the full range of issues and recommendations that should be addressed in this post-hurricane cleanup and rebuilding process. We urge Congress to oversee federal agencies responding to the hurricanes in terms of: (1) prohibiting discrimination based on race, income, religion and national origin; (2) compliance with the Executive Order 12898 on Environmental Justice; and (3) compliance with Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act which, in general, prohibits discrimination in programs funded by federal dollars. Finally, I to draw your attention to the many vulnerable communities of color that exist in the shadow of chemical and petro chemical facilities along the Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas Gulf Coast, who are especially in harms way at this time. Don't forget those places in assessing the devastating impacts of both Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Too much focus is on the structural integrity of chemical plants, oil refineries, and oil rigs and insufficient attention is focused on the devastating impact that communities have suffered as a result of proximity to these facilities. These people may never be able to return to their homes. These communities warrant our attention, our resources, and the full efforts of all branches of government to ensure their survival and protection in the future. NATIONAL BLACK ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE NETWORK Resolution On Environmental and Economic Justice In The Gulf Coast Region Environmental Cleanup, Restoration And Rebuilding Sustainable Communities Post-Hurricane Katrina and Beyond<SUP><dbl-dagger></SUP> The National Black Environmental Justice Network (NBEJN) was founded in New Orleans, Louisiana in December 1999 in response to a State of Emergency in Black America. New Orleans was selected as the ideal location to launch NBEJN since the City of New Orleans, Louisiana and the Chemical Corridor, encompassing the area up to Baton Rouge, are under siege due to wide ranging environmental and economic assaults. These assaults are costing Black lives. NBEJN values as sacred every human life regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or socio-economic status. We view the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath as a unique opportunity to shape the conversation and dialogue about rebuilding the Gulf Coast region including Gulf Coast states and Greater New Orleans in ways that provide environmental and economic justice for the entire affected population. WHEREAS, race and class intersected with the Katrina disaster in ways that compound the impacts on Black communities and issues of race and class will affect environmental cleanup and restoration, public and environmental health, regional equity, community development and economic recovery; WHEREAS, NBEJN is committed to alleviating and remedying the impacts of Hurricane Katrina on Black families, in particular, environmental, public health and economic consequences of the storm and its aftermath on the health and well being of survivors; WHEREAS, the NBEJN post-hurricane focus centers on research, policy development and education advocacy, communications and media, outreach and networking in the areas of environmental justice; economic justice; environmental health; protection of public health; regional equity, sustainable development; cultural preservation; climate justice; homeland insecurity; and emergency responses; WHEREAS, NBEJN and its members will monitor hearings and investigations convened by Congress, state legislatures and governmental agencies about Hurricane Katrina to ensure that the environmental and economic justice aspects of the disaster are prominent; WHEREAS, there are urgent needs in hundreds of Black communities throughout the Gulf Coast region in terms of moving forward on environmental cleanup, habitability, restoration and rebuilding those areas devastated and/or destroyed by Hurricane Katrina and the Lake Pontchatrain levee breaches; WHEREAS, worker safety and health and public safety and health and public security are essential; WHEREAS, concern about homeland insecurity among African American communities pre-dates Hurricane Katrina and these communities are uniquely affected due to their close proximity to petrochemical and chemical plants and other environmentally harmful facilities; WHEREAS, all local, state and regional emergency preparedness plans must be designed to address the needs of people with low-incomes who don't have resources to evacuate themselves and their families in the event of natural and other disasters; WHEREAS, there must be a governmental inventory, assessment of and response to the impacts of Hurricane Katrina on potentially hazardous permitted and non-permitted operations including treatment, storage and disposal facilities, Superfund sites, chemical weapons stockpiles, pesticide and chemical storage facilities, refineries and manufacturing plants, and other existing and potential environmental hazards in the Gulf Coast region; WHEREAS, local zoning ordinances must be promulgated to prohibit siting, permitting and operation of heavy industrial facilities adjacent to, in or near residential areas, WHEREAS, there must be continuous testing and monitoring of drinking water and water quality in and around Greater New Orleans and the Gulf Coast region and testing must occur short- medium- and long- term; WHEREAS, global warming and climate change have dire health and environmental consequences in vulnerable African-American communities in the Gulf Coast region and elsewhere; WHEREAS, wetlands preservation, restoration and erosion control must be accelerated to protect the Gulf Coast Region and in the Mississippi River chemical corridor; WHEREAS, in consultation with affected communities, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and engineering experts should be delegated the responsibility of designing, constructing and maintaining a better, more effective system of levees, improved drainage, and rerouting of the flood control systems that continually inundate the lower 9th Ward community; WHEREAS, the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Department of Interior and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency should ensure that these re-engineering, wetlands preservation and restoration, and flood prevention and drainage efforts are fully funded; WHEREAS, expediency in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina cannot be a pretext to weaken or waive environmental authorities in the Gulf Coast region or elsewhere in the United States including all existing local, state, regional and federal environmental laws and regulations; WHEREAS, environmental cleanups must be conducted fairly and equitably in every affected community including decisions about areas wherein the most stringent cleanup levels will be applied during restoration, redevelopment and rebuilding; WHEREAS, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security must comply with Executive Order 12898 on Environmental Justice including immediate action on new disaster preparedness models that address the needs and challenges of the lowest income person in every community; WHEREAS, fair and equitable access to and distribution of resources is paramount in all post-hurricane operations and activities, minority businesses in the environmental, community development and construction sectors must be utilized in the short- medium- and long-term cleanup and rebuilding efforts; WHEREAS, there must be a public process to develop a broad, socially and equitably just vision for a new, revitalized Gulf Coast region and Greater New Orleans, encompassing prominent roles for poor, low and moderate income African-Americans in designing and implementing the vision and the rebuilding plans; WHEREAS, economic parity is a cardinal objective in a revitalized and renewed Gulf Coast region and Greater New Orleans, cultural preservation, poverty alleviation and sustainable development are highly valued, central facets of every revitalization strategy; WHEREAS, local jurisdictions in the Gulf Coast region must not use eminent domain in the rebuilding process in ways that result in taking of properties in Black communities in order to convert them to public or other uses; WHEREAS, redevelopment and revitalization plans and rebuilding infrastructure must benefit those communities most affected by the hurricane, these efforts cannot exacerbate gentrification in ways that result in more residential and commercial displacement for Black people, many or whom are poor; WHEREAS, rebuilding activities in the Gulf Coast region must first deploy local businesses and hire local Black workers and local low- income workers to participate in the rebuilding efforts; WHEREAS, jurisdictions in the Gulf Coast region must focus on creating sustainable low and moderate income housing (concentrating on historic and cultural preservation), and address the fair housing issues embedded in the temporary and long-term resettlement of surviving evacuated Black families; WHEREAS, the private sector must exercise caution in real estate and business financing and property-casualty insurance practices to prevent insurance and lender redlining and price-gouging and to ensure that insurance claims are paid fairly and equitably; WHEREAS, local, state, regional and federal government agencies must exercise oversight to ensure that post-hurricane insurance and banking practices are fair and equitable; WHEREAS, continuing the education of the young survivors of the hurricane, children and youth, must be a priority at the levels of pre- kindergarten, elementary, high school, secondary and post secondary education; WHEREAS, full employment, job placement, job training and worker re-training programs are key to restoring the lives of Gulf Coast survivors and achieving economic justice; WHEREAS, a Reparations And Victims Compensation Fund should be established to benefit all persons displaced by Hurricane Katrina and African-Americans should receive just and equitable compensation from such a fund; WHEREAS, special outreach efforts must address and assist undocumented persons and other immigrants in a time of disaster including those who don't speak English; THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the National Black Environmental Justice Network (NBEJN) is committed to rebuilding the Gulf Coast Region including Greater New Orleans in collaboration with stakeholders, local, state, regional and federal elected officials, governmental agency officials and other entities in the public and private sectors; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the National Black Environmental Justice Network calls on stakeholders, local, state, regional and federal elected officials, governmental agency officials and other entities in the public and private sectors to adopt environmental and economic justice principles and approaches in the Gulf Coast Region cleanup, restoration and rebuilding efforts; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that all federal and state efforts should comply with Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the Executive Order 12898 on Environmental Justice, and United Nations directives on displaced persons. Copyright 2005 All Rights Reserved. Mr. Bass. Thank you, Dr. Wright. Mr. Verchick. STATEMENT OF ROBERT R.M. VERCHICK Mr. Verchick. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and members of the subcommittee. Thank you for the opportunity to be here today. I testify as an expert in environmental law and policy, a resident of New Orleans, and a board member of the Center for Progressive Reform. Last week, or rather, earlier this week, the Center released a 56 page report titled ``An Unnatural Disaster: The Aftermath of Katrina,'' along with a separate report on the Army Corps' proposed barrier project, which was talked about earlier in the first panel. I ask that both of these reports, along with my oral testimony today, be entered into the Congressional Record. I am an evacuee, like Dr. Wright, and lost part of my house. I am teaching in Houston now, my family is in Washington State, and I am hoping to return in January. I have three young boys, and I am not sure they will be able to. And part of that is what is motivating me to be here today. The first thing I would like to do is talk about something that occurred in the panel just before, because as a law professor, I am especially sensitive to legal inaccuracies, and I want to just make one thing perfectly clear. It is, I think, false to suggest, in terms of the Army Corps' sea gate barrier project, it is false to suggest that a small, grassroots organization in the 1970's overturned the will of the Department of Defense and the Army Corps of Engineers. I want to explain exactly, as a legal matter, what happened about that. It involved a 1977 lawsuit against the Army Corps of Engineers, in a proposal to build a sea gate. They were required, the Army Corps was, to have an environmental impact statement. Their impact statement was based on models 10 years old. All of its biological analysis was based exclusively on a phone call with a single marine biologist, and the Corps' chief engineer himself wanted more information about the sea gates and the models. Based on this information, a court in 1977 struck the EIS, the environmental impact statement, and invited the Corps to update the hydrological models so that the plan could move forward. Then, instead of fixing the EIS, the Corps in the 1980's, under a different Administration, dropped the barrier plan entirely in favor of an upgraded levee plan because, among other reasons, it was, and this is according to the GAO, it was: ``It would cost less to do the levee system instead.'' I simply want to make the point that whether or not you favor sea gates, one has to understand that the decision about sea gates belonged to the Army Corps of Engineers and no one else. And if Congress is interested in more sea gate technology, it should know that the Army Corps last year, in fact, has another sea gate proposal, that it is working on planning, and it may or may not be something that the Congress wants to fund. But I simply want to point that out. I want to move on now to what I originally planned on talking about, which is points having to do with the toxins, and I have three points that I want to make. One, the environmental contamination left in the wake of Katrina is extremely serious. It must be investigated thoroughly, and remedied adequately before people are allowed to occupy the city again. My second point is that to have credibility, and to accomplish this difficult task, the investigation must ask questions that are conducted by an independent, bipartisan taskforce, similar to the September 11 commission. And third, now is not the time to repeal, roll back, waive, any of our crucial environmental laws, as some members of regulatory industries have suggested. This is not a time for anti-regulatory profiteering at Louisiana's expense. We need the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the Safe Drinking Water Act, RCRA, Superfund, and so on, and we need them funded. The problem with the floods has something to do with the fact that a lot of the controlled industries in that area did not adequately have charge of the contaminants to begin with. To talk just a little bit about the contaminants, in the small time that I have left, I want to just point out a few things. There is no way for anyone to know if the risk is tolerable or safe at this point. I know this, because Dr. Falk and Mr. Peacock said as much. In fact, there has been little or no testing on long-term contaminants, so it doesn't do any good to say the mayor and the Governor and Mr. Allen will get together and decide if it is safe. They can't, because we don't have the information yet, and until we have that information, with a city that had a population of a quarter disabled, we should not bring those people back into the city, when there is no information. I have been there. I have unloaded basements, helped my neighbors. Nobody knows anything about what is going on. No one has the gear. A lot of people can't afford the gear. You go to Wal-Marts up and down the state, you won't find rubber boots and rubber gloves. There is no way to do it. My time is up, but I simply want to reinforce the idea that I desperately, along with many others, want to go back to my city with my children, and I have no idea whether it is safe or not, because the government has no idea whether it is safe or not, and they owe that explanation to the people before they allow or encourage people to move into the city of New Orleans. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Robert R.M. Verchick follows:] Prepared Statement of Robert R.M. Verchick, Gauthier-St. Martin Eminent Scholar Chair in Environmental Law, Loyola University New Orleans Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today to testify on Hurricane Katrina, its historic roots, and its current status. I testify today as an expert in environmental law and policy and a resident of New Orleans. As you know, I am an evacuee. My wife and children are living this fall in the state of Washington, and I have taken up temporary residence in Houston, Texas, where my Law School, Loyola New Orleans, is about to begin its fall semester in space donated by the University of Houston. Several days ago, I was lucky enough to be able to return to New Orleans to check on our house (partially flooded, but remarkably intact) and my university's campus (now partially occupied by the National Guard). I do not know when my family or I will be able to return, nor do I know for certain when the Law School will be able to resume its mission in its own building. Like most New Orleans evacuees, my heart and my mind remain with the City. I monitor the worldwide Web constantly, I speak on the phone or e-mail with people who have remained in the area several times a week, and I regularly read the local blogs, including those associated with my city's newspaper, television stations, and schools. This is a tragedy that will stay with my family and me for quite a long time and, it now appears, with the country. My testimony today focuses on the environmental ramifications of Katrina that involve the dispersal of toxic chemicals throughout the environment. Although I understand you want and need a briefing on conditions as they stand today, I am also going to trace some of the history of how we ended up in this mess. Mother Nature is overwhelmingly powerful, to be sure, but we made mistakes that rendered the situation much worse, and that must be corrected before we rebuild the city. My message today boils down to three points: One. The environmental contamination left in the wake of Katrina is very serious and must be investigated thoroughly and remedied adequately before people are allowed back into affected areas of New Orleans. We cannot afford to repeat the mistakes of the past, many of which were rooted in the policies of neglect and racial and economic discrimination that were on full display in the immediate aftermath of the hurricane. Two. To have credibility and to accomplish this difficult task, the investigation must ask the right questions and be conducted by an independent, bipartisan taskforce modeled along the lines of the September 11 Commission. A major goal of my testimony is to suggest the critical questions such an investigation must address. Three. Now is not the time to repeal, roll back, or waive any of our crucial environmental laws, as some opportunistic members of regulated industries have suggested. We need the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the Safe Drinking Water Act, the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act, and the Superfund law more than ever to make sure that people and natural resources are safe as New Orleans is rebuilt. Katrina's Environmental Aftermath Katrina left nine categories of environmental problems in her wake: 1. flooded and contaminated drinking water supplies; 2. several oil spills, typically from above-ground tanks; 3. leaking underground tanks containing fuel and other chemicals; 4. flooded sewage treatment plants; 5. flooded buildings, lagoons, lots, and individual containers containing a wide array of toxic chemicals that were washed out into the ambient environment; 6. the concentrated residue of many fires spread into the environment; 7. building debris that is cultivating harmful molds; 8. contaminated sediment and other sludge throughout the city; and 9. toxic exposure of cleanup and other workers as a result of this pollution. On September 19, 2005, EPA estimated that in Louisiana, 498 of 683 drinking water facilities are operational and meeting EPA standards; 26 are operating on a ``boil water notice''; and 159 are either inoperable or their status is unknown.<SUP>1</SUP> Together, the 683 facilities serve 2.5 million people. In Mississippi, 1,073 of the 1,368 drinking water systems are operational; 231 are operating on a boil water notice; and 64 are either inoperable or their status is unknown. The 1,368 systems serve 3.2 million people. In Alabama, 72 drinking water systems serve approximately 960,000 people. Seventy-one are operational, and one is operating on a boil water notice. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ All of the figures in this paragraph were reported in EPA, Response to Hurricane Katrina Update (Sept. 19, 2005), available at http://www.epa.gov/katrina/activities.html#sep13 [hereinafter EPA, Response Katrina]. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- EPA estimates that there were five major oil spills in the New Orleans area to date; <SUP>2</SUP> one newspaper reported that six spills had occurred.<SUP>3</SUP> The Coast Guard has estimated that the spills involved 160,000 barrels, and that it has recovered 50,000 barrels to date (a barrel holds 42 gallons).<SUP>4</SUP> Additional petroleum contamination has resulted from the flooding of an estimated 350,000 vehicles. The Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality reported that oil storage tanks located near the Mississippi River, with a combined capacity of two million barrels, appeared to be leaking.<SUP>5</SUP> The Coast Guard has estimated that more than seven million gallons of oil may have been spilled from industrial plants, storage depots, and other facilities in southeastern Louisiana as a result of Katrina.<SUP>6</SUP> These spills have caused as-yet unclear damage to the Gulf and the River. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ Id. \3\ Marla Cone and Ashley Powers, EPA Warns Muck Left by Floodwaters Is Highly Contaminated, L.A. Times, Sept. 16, 2005, available at http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la- 091605nola--lat,0,5316762.story?coll=la-home-headlines (last visited Sept. 21, 2005). \4\ Id. \5\ Ryan Parry, Mississippi Burning: Pollution Hells as Fires, Explosions and Oil Spills Follow, The Daily Mirror (U.K.), Sept. 3, 2005, at 6, 7; see also Sewell Chan & Andrew Revkin, Water Returned to Lake Pontchartrain Contains Toxic Material, N.Y. Times, Sept. 7, 2005, at A1. The two spills occurred at a Bass Enterprise storage depot in Venice and at a Murphy Oil facility in Chalmette. The Bass spill was estimated at about 68,000-78,000 barrels and the Murphy spill at about 10,000 barrels. See Reuters, Jim Loney, It's Almost Unimaginable, the Things We Are Going to Have to Deal With, Sept. 6, 2005, available at http://hartmannwatchwatch.blog spot.com/2005/09/its-almost-unimaginable-things-we-are.html (last visited Sept. 21, 2005); Susanne Pagano, EPA Finds Louisiana Floodwaters Contaminated with Lead, Coliform, 36 Env't Rep. (BNA) 1870 (Sept. 9, 2005). \6\ Associated Press, Katrina and the Environment, Sept. 16, 2005, available at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/16/katrina/ main855409.shtml (last visited Sept. 21, 2005). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- As for the floodwaters that swept New Orleans and coastal communities in Mississippi and Alabama, the most immediate threat to human health is biological contamination.<SUP>7</SUP> Experts have likened the bacterial concentrations in the floodwaters to untreated sewage.<SUP>8</SUP> EPA also stated on September 19, 2005 that E. coli levels in flood waters are ``greatly elevated'' and remain ``much higher'' than EPA's recommended levels for contact. Those exposed to the bacteria-laden floodwaters could contract diseases such as hepatitis-A and salmonella poisoning.<SUP>9</SUP> Intestinal diseases can be transmitted by ingesting sewage or simply by being in the water without adequate protective clothing.<SUP>10</SUP> These risks are particularly acute for children, the elderly, or those with compromised immune systems. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \7\ The Administrator of the federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has indicated that all tests conducted by EPA of waters in the flooded residential areas of New Orleans exceed by at least ten times the levels determined by EPA to be safe for human exposure for bacteria that include E. coli and fecal coliform. See Pagano, supra note 5 (indicating that EPA stopped measuring the amount of bacteria in the water when the levels reached the ten-fold point). See also Press Release, EPA, EPA and LDEQ Report Potential Health Risks from Sediments (Sept. 16, 2005), http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/ d9bf8d9315e942578525701c005e573c/387f 99c6a7a0b7808525707e0062479d!OpenDocument. By some accounts, fecal coliform has been found in some of the floodwaters at levels thousands of times higher than the levels designated by EPA as safe. Dina Cappiello, Tainted Water, Hous. Chron., Sept. 13, 2005, available at http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3351081 (last visited Sept. 21, 2005). Several people have already died from exposure to bacteria closely linked to cholera and some people have fallen ill with Vibrio vulnificus, a common marine bacteria. Genevieve Roberts, Bacteria in Floodwater Blamed for Three Deaths, The Independent, Sept. 8, 2005, available at http://news.indephttp://www.ezilon.com/ information/article--9255.shtml (last visited Sept. 21, 2005); CNN, At Least 30 Found Dead in Nursing Home, Sept. 8, 2005, available at http:/ /www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/07/katrina.impact/index.html (last visited Sept. 21, 2005); Pagano, supra note 5. \8\ See Cappiello, supra note 7. \9\ Marla Cone, Floodwaters a Soup of Pathogens, EPA Finds, L.A. Times, Sept. 8, 2005, at A18, available at http://www.latimes.com/ features/health/medicine/la-me-bacteria8sep08,1,7707135. story?coll=la-health-medicine (last visited Sept. 21, 2005). \10\ Pagano, supra note 5. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The bacterial contamination that creates these risks of infectious disease resulted in part from damage to sewage treatment plants located in the three states most directly affected by the storm, hundreds of which were damaged or rendered inoperable. Leaking sewage lines added to the problem.<SUP>11</SUP> The decomposition of dead people and animals contributed still further bacterial contamination to the floodwaters. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \11\ Cone, supra note 9. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The waters covering New Orleans' streets are also contaminated by a range of toxic chemicals, <SUP>12</SUP> posing significant health and safety risks. Significant amounts of lead, a heavy metal that creates risk of brain damage in young children, have been detected in the floodwaters. At one location, lead was detected at concentrations nearly 700 times higher than EPA standards for safe drinking water.<SUP>13</SUP> Tests conducted by EPA and the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality also found high levels of arsenic and hexavalent chromium.<SUP>14</SUP> Other chemicals discovered in the floodwaters have been a variety of heavy metals and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, all of which have been linked to cancer risk or developmental problems.<SUP>15</SUP> Some experts have stated that they would be surprised if continued testing fails to detect unsafe levels of some of these contaminants.<SUP>16</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \12\ E.g., Andrew Gumbel & Rupert Cornwell, After Katrina: The Toxic Timebomb, The Independent, Sept. 7, 2005, available at http:// www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0907-03.htm (last visited Sept. 21, 2005). \13\ See Cappiello, supra note 7. \14\ Associated Press, EPA: Bacteria, Lead in New Orleans Floodwaters, Sept. 15, 2005, available at http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ science/09/14/katrina.environment.ap/ (last visited Sept. 21, 2005). \15\ Juliet Eilperin, Flooded Toxic Waste Sites Are Potential Health Threat, Wash. Post, Sept. 10, 2005, at A15. \16\ Cone, supra note 9. Some of these chemicals are known to cause or are suspected of causing adverse health effects such as cancer, birth defects, and neurological problems. Rebecca Claren, ``The Entire Community Is Now a Toxic Waste Dump,'' Salon, Sept. 9, 2005, available at http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/09/wasteland/index.html (last visited Sept. 21, 2005). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some of these contaminants came from the kinds of products found in most homes and commercial businesses, such as chemical cleaners, bleach, and pest control products.<SUP>17</SUP> EPA reports that it has collected 20,934 ``orphan'' containers with unknown contents--barrels lying in common areas with no apparent owner--throughout the affected region.<SUP>18</SUP> Others undoubtedly originated from inundated industrial facilities subject to environmental regulatory programs or from sites that managed hazardous chemicals improperly in the past.<SUP>19</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \17\ Sewell Chan & Andrew Revkin, Water Returned to Lake Pontchartrain Contains Toxic Material, N.Y. Times, Sept. 7, 2005, at A1. \18\ EPA, Response Katrina, supra note 1. \19\ A few days after the hurricane hit New Orleans, an explosion occurred at a chemical factory located 15 blocks from the French Quarter and two miles from the Superdome and the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center, which housed the bulk of the city's refugees. Ryan Parry, Mississippi Burning: Pollution Hells as Fires, Explosions and Oil Spills Follow, The Daily Mirror (U.K.), Sept. 3, 2005, at 6, 7. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- These problems are daunting, and will take months, even years, to clean up. Chemical contamination in many areas is likely to return existing hazardous waste sites to ``imminent endangerment'' status, and create brownfield sites that are unsuitable for redevelopment. Although our immediate focus is properly on the significant risks to human health and safety, it is worth noting that in the ensuing months, we will have to also confront the environmental impacts of this contamination: reports of a toxic plume moving through the Gulf of Mexico are already raising serious concerns about the environmental consequences for pristine and fragile resources surrounding south Florida, including its coral reefs and areas surrounding the Dry Tortugas. Government officials responsible for removing the floodwaters from the city face a Hobson's choice: they could wait to pump the water out of the city until a mechanism was put in place to remove at least some of the contamination, or they could pump the contaminated water back into Lake Pontchartrain and the Gulf of Mexico. Both the risks that would result from waiting to remove the water until it could be decontaminated and the costs of constructing the necessary bioremediation facilities were deemed unacceptably high.<SUP>20</SUP> The pumping of floodwater with so much bacterial waste, however, is likely to lower the dissolved oxygen content of the Lake and the Gulf, creating a risk that many fish and other water-dependent organisms will die.<SUP>21</SUP> Moreover, the intentional discharge of this contamination is a sad sequel to hard-won success in cleaning up Lake Ponchartrain to the point that portions were recently deemed safe for swimming.<SUP>22</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \20\ See Reuters, Jim Loney, Few Choices to Rid New Orleans of Poisoned Water, Sept. 6, 2005. \21\ Gumbel & Cornwell, supra note 70. \22\ Amy Althans, Presentation to Focus on Revival of Lake Basin Foundation, Chief Talks to AAUW, Times Picayune (New Orleans), Jan. 13, 2005; Leslie Williams, Beach Group Has Game Plan, Natural Feel Desired for Area Along Lake, Times Picayune (New Orleans), Sept. 6, 2004. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- EPA has deployed hundreds of workers to the Gulf Coast and is working against the clock to test floodwaters, soil, air, and drinking water sources to determine whether they pose unreasonable risks to the environment. When the Agency discovers hazardous conditions, it will face the challenging tasks of figuring out to remove, neutralize, or contain the contamination before people return to the area. All decisionmakers should defer to this expert judgment. environmental enforcement and superfund Two fundamental issues warrant serious investigation in the wake of this disaster: first, could any of the harm to health and the environment have been avoided; and second, how to conduct and fund an adequate cleanup of the contamination. Compliance Issues On the first question, one important inquiry is into the degree of compliance with the Clean Water Act requirement that facilities that store petroleum products in above-ground containers prepare Spill Prevention Control and Countermeasure Plans. Such plans must include physical containment, as necessary, to prevent oil spills because, among other things, it is a civil and criminal violation of the Act to allow such spills either intentionally or negligently. Similarly, the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act requires virtually all facilities that manage, store, or dispose of hazardous waste to have emergency plans that prevent the waste from escaping into the environment in the event of an accident, including foreseeable events like a hurricane. Once again, the aftermath of Katrina must include an investigation of the compliance by New Orleans businesses with these important requirements. With hindsight, it also seems appropriate to consider questions such as: Were factories and oil storage facilities located too close to the Coast? Did responsible industries secure them sufficiently in anticipation of a natural disaster that had been predicted for years? Were efforts to clean up toxic waste dumps before the hurricane adequate, or did superficial cleanups leave these dangerous sites vulnerable to the inevitable floods? The Clean Water Act and the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act could have prevented the environmental damage caused by Katrina if they had been implemented effectively, Superfund Sites Finally, there is the troubling question of flooded Superfund sites, with damage that was exacerbated by poor initial cleanups. There are three National Priorities List sites that lay in the path of the hurricane, and the Washington Post reported on September 10, 2005 that one site in the northeast section of New Orleans is submerged in water and that two sites are flooded, with their dangerous contents joining the sewage and household hazardous chemicals in the water that will soon be pumped into the Gulf of Mexico or Lake Ponchartrain.<SUP>23</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \23\ Eilperin, supra note 15. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- As you are well aware, the National Priorities List (NPL) is limited to the 1238 worst abandoned toxic waste sites in the country. In an interview with CPR, long-time Louisiana environmental consultant Wilma Subra confirmed the accuracy of the Post story, as well as the following analysis of its implications.<SUP>24</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \24\ Ms. Subra is a nationally recognized expert who testified before the U.S. Senate Environment & Public Works Committee on Superfund Reauthorization in 1997. The testimony is available at http:/ /epw.senate.gov/105th/sub--9-04.htm. She can be reached at either (337) 367-2216 or (337) 578-3994. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agriculture Street Landfill--The Black Love Canal The site that was the hardest hit by Katrina is the Agriculture Street Landfill, sometimes referred to as the ``black Love Canal.'' The 95-acre site, located three miles south of Lake Pontchartrain in a community that is 60-80 percent African-American, is an old municipal landfill where ordinary garbage was mixed together with liquid hazardous waste to a depth of between two and 32.5 feet.<SUP>25</SUP> In 1969, the City of New Orleans built a low-income housing project on top of the site, as well as the Moton Elementary School.<SUP>26</SUP> In 1993-94, after community leaders demanded that EPA conduct a full investigation of the site, the Agency decided that contamination at the site warranted an emergency cleanup and placement on the NPL. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \25\ It operated from 1912 until 1959, but was reopened in 1965 to receive debris created by Hurricane Betsy. The combination of garbage and service station oil waste often caused fires at the site, and during that period, local residents called it ``Dante's Inferno.'' \26\ Among the issues surrounding the site, in addition to the inadequacy of the remedy, explains Darryl Malek-Wiley, an environmental justice organizer with the Sierra Club, is the government's role in the 1970s in ``encouraging first-time black homebuyers'' to settle in a development that residents later learned to be on top of the former landfill. Eilperin, supra note 15. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a health assessment prepared for the site by the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR), a unit of the Centers for Disease Control, experts concluded that the undeveloped portions of the site posed a ``public health hazard'' and that if the land was ever used for residential housing, exposure to lead, arsenic, and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) in the soil could pose an ``unacceptable health risk.'' <SUP>27</SUP> All of those toxic materials are now floating through the streets of New Orleans. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \27\ Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Public Health Assessment: Agriculture Street Landfill, available at http:// www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/PHA/agriculturestreet/asl--p1.html. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- EPA's choice of a remedy for the site has significantly exacerbated this damage. Instead of excavating the site, treating contaminated soil in situ, or even installing a liner that would prevent the landfill's contents from washing away, EPA decided that its final remedy would be limited excavation of less than two-thirds of the site and the placement of two feet of ``clean fill'' on top of the buried waste.<SUP>28</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \28\ EPA picked up 52,615 tons of soil, or an average of 86 tons per acre, and put down 177,293 cubic yards of clean fill in its place. See EPA, Agriculture Street Landfill NPL Update (Sept. 2005), available at http://www.epa.gov/earth1r6/6sf/pdffiles/0600646.pdf. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Residents asked to be relocated from their housing on top of the site, a project that would have cost approximate $12 million, and have even filed suit demanding that relocation. EPA refused and has instead spent $20 million on the cleanup described above. In desperation, a delegation traveled to Geneva Switzerland in 1999 to ask for help from the U.N. Commission on Human Rights.<SUP>29</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \29\ For an account of the trip, see http://www.ejrc.cau.edu/ unchr--ej.htm. For further information about environmental justice issues at Superfund sites, see infra The Two Americas: Race, Class, and Injustice; Alicia Lyttle, Agriculture Street Landfill: Environmental Justice Case Study (U. Mich., Jan. 2003, available at http:// www.umich.edu/snre492/Jones/ag street.htm; http://www.ejrc.cau.edu/POCEG-02.PDF; and Robert D. Bullard, Environmental Justice in the 21st Century (Envtl. Justice Res. Ctr.), available at http://assets.cambridge.org/052166/0629/sample/ 0521660629ws.pdf. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bayou Bonfouca This 54-acre site located in Slidell, Louisiana, was a wood treatment facility using creosote that operated since the late 1800s. Some 26,000 people live in the community, and the house nearest the site is 400 feet away.<SUP>30</SUP> Even though the site is supposedly cleaned up, the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality warns citizens not to swim, and to avoid contact with over seven miles of Bayou Bonfouca, identifying the pollutant of concern as creosote.<SUP>31</SUP> The ATSDR health assessment concluded that the site is a ``public health hazard'' and worries that because swimming advisories are ``voluntary,'' the potential for immediate skin burns and long-term illnesses is ongoing.<SUP>32</SUP> The companies that created the site paid to install a fence around it. EPA then used the site to burn hazardous wastes from another nearby Superfund site, ultimately burying the concentrated ash from that process in Bayou Bonfouca. The only ``remedy'' installed at Bayou Bonfouca was the construction of a plastic and clay cap over the top of the creosote piles, the remnants of which were likely washed out in the flooding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \30\ See EPA, Madisonville Creosote Works NPL Update (Sept. 2005), available at http://www.epa.gov/region06/6sf/pdffiles/0600653.pdf [hereinafter EPA, Madisonville Creosote Works]. \31\ See LA Dep't of Envtl. Quality, Fish Consumption and Swimming Advisories (Jan. 11, 2005), available at http://www.deq.state.la.us/ surveillance/mercury/fishadvi.htm#table. \32\ See Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Public Health Assessment: Bayou Bonfouca, available at http:// www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/PHA/bonfouca/bon--p3.html. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Madisonville Creosote Works This 29-acre site is also a former wood treatment facility.<SUP>33</SUP> EPA excavated some contaminated soil, treated it, and put it back down at the site. To cope with the thousands of gallons of creosote waste still under the surface, the Agency installed ``recovery'' trenches beneath the surface that would capture the creosote waste, keeping it out of local drinking water supplies. Flooding is likely to have disrupted those trenches, potentially spreading contamination into the community's water. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \33\ See EPA, Madisonville Creosote Works, supra note 30. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why did the cleanup of these three sites turn out to be so vulnerable to a foreseeable and foreseen natural disaster like Katrina? The Superfund created under that statute was intended to provide the necessary legal authority to enable an adequate response to releases of hazardous substances into the environment. However, the Superfund program has been critically weakened in recent years, just when it must play a central role in cleaning up after the disaster. Among the sources of revenue for the Superfund toxic waste cleanup program were taxes on the production of crude oil and the manufacture of feedstock chemicals, as well as general tax revenues. The industry taxes that provide the bulk of the program's funding expired in 1995. Since the taxes expired, the program has limped along on limited funds from general tax revenues and cost recovery actions against companies that created the sites.<SUP>34</SUP> The industry taxes provided about $1.45 billion in annual funding from 1990-1995.<SUP>35</SUP> Current levels of general revenue funding are $1.3 billion.<SUP>36</SUP> The cost of the remediation of toxic waste washed out by Katrina remains to be determined. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \34\ Unfortunately, there are no ``deep pocket'' corporations in evidence around the three sites described above, and the only alternative is for the Superfund to pick up the tab. \35\ Meredith Preston & Susan Bruninga, Amendment to Reinstate Industry Tax to Support Trust Fund Defeated in Senate, 35 Env't Rep. (BNA) 536. For more information on the battle to reinstate the tax, see Dean Scott, Senators Criticize Cut in EPA Water Fund, Challenge Pace for Superfund Cleanups, 36 Env't Rep. (BNA) 263. \36\ President Bush has recommended holding Superfund spending level, adding only $32 million to the program in his most recent budget. Because of the missing money, EPA will only be able to address 40 sites in the upcoming year, down from an average of 80 during the Clinton Administration. Id. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The result of this disastrous set of policies has been to shift a significant share of the burden of financing hazardous substance cleanups away from the industries that generate the bulk of the substances found at contaminated sites and onto the shoulders of the taxpaying public. The limited funds available in the Superfund have unintended consequences, it can delay cleanups and lead EPA to choose remedies that are not adequately protective of human health. With reduced funding, EPA may be tempted to reduce its expenses by choosing remedies that are temporary and very vulnerable to bad weather along the Gulf Coast. Indeed, the remedies installed at the three sites in the New Orleans area were fated to fail. the two americas: race, class, and injustice The devastating effects--the lost lives, the demolished homes, the shattered communities, the affronts to dignity--were suffered disproportionately by people of color and low-income people in New Orleans. ``Natural disasters'' such as hurricanes, earthquakes, and floods are sometimes viewed as ``great social equalizers:'' they strike unpredictably and at random, affecting black and white, rich and poor, sick and well alike. However, as Katrina has laid bare, the harms are not visited randomly or equally in our society. A reporter for The New York Times put it bluntly: ``The white people got out. Most of them, anyway . . . it was mostly black people who were left behind.'' <SUP>37</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \37\ Jason DeParle, Broken Levees, Unbroken Barriers: What Happens to a Race Deferred, The New York Times, Section 4, Page 1 (Sunday, Sept. 4, 2005). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Twenty-eight percent of people in New Orleans live in poverty.<SUP>38</SUP> Of these, 84 percent are African- American.<SUP>39</SUP> Twenty-four percent of the adults living in New Orleans are disabled.<SUP>40</SUP> An estimated 15,000 to 17,000 men, women and children in the New Orleans area are homeless.<SUP>41</SUP> The lowest lying areas of New Orleans tend to be populated by those without economic or political resources.<SUP>42</SUP> The city's Lower Ninth Ward, for example, which was especially hard hit and completely inundated by water, is among its poorest and lowest lying areas.<SUP>43</SUP> Ninety-eight percent of its residents are African- American.<SUP>44</SUP> As Craig E. Colten, a geologist at Louisiana State University and an expert on New Orleans' vulnerable topography explains: ``[I]n New Orleans, water flows away from money. Those with resources who control where the drainage goes have always chosen to live on the high ground. So the people in the low areas were the hardest hit.'' <SUP>45</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \38\ U.S. Census, ``Louisiana Quick Facts,'' (2000), available at http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/22/2255000.html. \39\ U.S. Census, ``Poverty Status in 1999 by Sex by Age,'' (2000), available at http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?-- bm=y&context=dt&-re . . . -geo--id=16000US2255000 &-search--results=01000US&-format=&---lang=en. \40\ U.S. Census, ``Social Characteristics: 1990,'' available at http://factfinder.census.org/servlet/QTTable?--bn=n&lang=eng&qr-- name=DEC--1990--STF3--DP2&ds--name=DEC-1990--STF3&geo--id=05000US22071. \41\ City of New Orleans Health Department, ``Homeless Healthcare,'' available at http://www.cityofno.com/ portal.aspx?portal=48&tabid=6. \42\ Jason DeParle, supra note 37 (quoting Craig E. Colten, Louisiana State University). \43\ Id.; Greater New Orleans Community Data Center, ``Lower Ninth Ward Neighborhood: Income & Poverty,'' available at http://gnocdc.org/ orleans/8/22/income.html (poverty rates in the Lower Ninth Ward ten percent higher than in Orleans Parish generally). \44\ Greater New Orleans Community Data Center, ``Lower Ninth Ward Neighborhood: People and Household Characteristics,'' available at http://gnocdc.org/orleans/8/22/people.html. \45\ Jason DeParle, supra note 37. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moves to eviscerate government protection of health, safety--and the environment are most tenable where those burdened can be viewed as ``other'' or where their--circumstances are not lived or imagined--by many Americans.<SUP>46</SUP> The current Administration in particular has endorsed a shift in responsibility for basic health, safety and environmental protections. It has sought to diminish the government's role in assuring even minimally healthful conditions for all, leaving it to those at risk to protect themselves. The effect of this shift is to burden people of color and the poor--because these groups are disproportionately the ones who are most exposed and most vulnerable, they will be the ones left to fend for themselves.<SUP>47</SUP> They are also the ones with the fewest resources to do so. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \46\ See, e.g., Catherine A. O'Neill, Risk Avoidance, Cultural Discrimination, and Environmental Justice for Indigenous Peoples, 30 Ecology L. Q. 1 (2003). \47\ Id. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Katrina also raises questions of justice in cleanup and rebuilding. Community members and environmental justice leaders have raised concerns about when and how these contaminants will be cleaned up, citing evidence of inequities in environmental cleanups more generally. They and others have also questioned the rush to waive standard health, safety, environmental and social protections. While it might have been important to waive normal Clean Water Act permits to allow the waters to be pumped out of a flooded city as quickly as possible, other waivers are unjustified.<SUP>48</SUP> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \48\ See, e.g., Michael Janofksy, Bill Would Let E.P.A. Relax Rules for Cleanup, N.Y. Times, Sept. 16, 2005, at A18 (national edition). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- conclusion In the aftermath of Katrina, we must rethink our past policies and priorities in order to avoid similar disasters in the future. We must be sure that EPA and other relevant agencies have adequate resources to respond to the unavoidable consequences of future disasters. We urge the Committee to support the creation of an adequately funded, bipartisan, and independent commission to address the following critical questions: Critical Questions 1. Katrina caused serious damage to the infrastructure that supports oil and gas production, as well as hundreds of facilities handling significant quantities of hazardous chemicals. a. How does EPA plan to conduct an independent assessment of the environmental releases that occurred at such facilities, including air emissions, spills of chemical product and waste, and fires caused by such events? b. What monitoring is being undertaken and what additional monitoring should be planned to adequately determine the nature and extent of hazards to health and environmental contamination? c. Is information from all appropriate government and non-governmental sources being incorporated into assessment of the releases? 2. What are the protocols for testing drinking water for the broader suite of chemicals likely to have migrated into supplies as a result of the storm and how are federal and state authorities ensuring that such testing gets done? 3. What plans have been made to rebuild the area's publicly owned treatment works so that they can deliver adequate services before the city is re-populated? 4. How will EPA ensure that the re-habitation of New Orleans, Mississippi, and other areas affected by Katrina is safe in light of remaining toxic deposits in soil and water? 5. Is all information relevant to public health and safety being shared with the public in a timely fashion? 6. To what extent did the chemical and biological contamination that has been discovered in New Orleans since Katrina result from noncompliance with or inadequate enforcement of the federal environmental laws described above? 7. Have the EPA and Congress undertaken the necessary assessment of the funding needed to fully implement and enforce federal environmental laws in order to protect public health and the environment in cases of natural and manmade disasters and reduce potential future cleanup costs? 8. Had state and local officials complied with their planning responsibilities under EPCRTKA, and, if not, did inadequate planning exacerbate the risks to health and safety now facing New Orleans? 9. A long, intentional, and successful effort to weaken the Superfund program has left it without adequate funds to address the new dimensions of risk posed by Superfund sites that Hurricane Katrina has made apparent. In addition, the aftermath of the hurricane has created need for an emergency response and may produce new sites that warrant cleanup under Superfund. a. What is the vulnerability of all Superfund sites, including those near waterbodies, to natural and manmade disasters? Does EPA have adequate funding to undertake such an assessment? b. How will EPA and the states deal with the potentially responsible parties who created the sites in the first place, and either never stepped forward to pay for cleanup, or paid for a remedy that now appears inadequate? c. What sources of funding will EPA employ in its broader response to the contamination in the wake of the hurricane? 10. What steps must be taken to ensure that race or class disparities don't affect the cleanup methods selected and used in different areas? 11. What steps are being taken to ensure that the affected communities have adequate opportunities to participate in the relevant decision-making processes? Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee for the opportunity to appear before you today. 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Thank you very much, Mr. Verchick. You asked for unanimous consent to add some information to the record. Is there objection? Without objection, so ordered. I am going to ask just one question. Mr. Verchick has already answered it. I would like to ask it of Mr. Olson, Dr. Wright, and Secretary Gautreaux. Is it safe for people to move back into New Orleans today? Mr. Olson? Mr. Olson. Well, I would agree. I would agree with what Mr. Verchick said just moments ago, which is that for many areas, there is no data available at all to answer that question. For some areas, the data available suggests that it is not safe, for example, some of the air monitoring data that is in my testimony shows that for someone to stay for more than 2 weeks is not safe, according to Federal guidelines. So, some areas, maybe it is, if we did additional testing, but we are not. Mr. Bass. Dr. Wright. Ms. Wright. Based on the information that I have, which is none, I would have to say it is not safe, because we don't know. And also, the fact that there is so much mold around, just growing everywhere, I think that that is a problem in homes across the river in Algiers, where people, some people never left, and people are still there. I have a distant relative there, and her house just reeks of mold, and she didn't even get the water that others got. That can't be a good thing. I don't believe it is. Mr. Bass. Secretary Gautreaux. Ms. Gautreaux. I would just say that in general, where you don't have potable drinking water and wastewater treatment, there are health risks associated with that. There are some areas where that is available, and I think you have to consider that, as well as individual risk factors, respiratory problems, pregnancy, anyone who immuno-compromised. If you are going for health reasons, consider those things, and I think the population should also consider things like the communications 911 network, available hospitals, and other factors. I read a statistic the other day that 75 to 70 percent of hurricane injuries are typically associated with the recovery. So, I think all of that has to be considered. Mr. Bass. Thank you very much, Secretary Gautreaux. The Chair now recognizes the ranking member, the gentlelady from California, for 5 minutes. Ms. Solis. Thank you very much. Sorry I came in late to hear some of your testimony, but I know that the concerns that you have are very similar to what some of the members I know on our side of the aisle have as well. I am interested to get your opinion on quality and access of information from EPA. Either one of you on the panel can respond. EPA talked about getting out information, they handed out 3,500 fact sheets in the first 2 weeks, conducting interventions that removed more than 850 workers from serious, life-threatening hazards. I am wondering if there was any other materials or outreach efforts on the part of EPA regarding households, not just the workplace, but households, and what kind of information are you aware of that was put out there? I know they have a website. I don't know how many people are able to access that website, and second, have you seen any of these handouts or kits that were given out? Dr. Wright, why don't you start? Ms. Wright. Yes. I would just like to say that there is a serious problem with communication, especially for many of the 200,000 people who have been scattered across the United States, who also would like to have some information about what is going on at home. We haven't gotten any. Now, I am a little more mobile than most people that I know, and so, I am here in Washington, D.C. I am on the phone with enviros every day, so yes, I have seen one flyer put out by our Governor, but that was given to me by one of the enviros, and I was able to pull it down off of the website. There are a lot of people who don't have access to any of those kinds of things. Another important thing that I would like to say is that there are some cultural differences between blacks and whites, and sometimes, the way that information is delivered determines whether or not it is received properly. I haven't seen any what I would consider culturally sensitive materials delivered on Katrina. I do know, because of the groups that we work with, that local organizations have been working to develop information. The Deep South Center, and the National Black Environmental Justice Network are, in fact, as we speak, trying to develop flyers to disseminate in different places where large numbers of evacuees are. I would say that is a real weakness of the whole rebuild, return, come back home project, whatever you would like to call it. Mr. Verchick. My experiences reflects what Dr. Wright would say. I would simply say walking the city, as I have been, in many different areas, and talking to lots of people who have been there, no one really has any idea of the type of environmental contamination, especially the kind that could be airborne, when it dries up, on that sludge, and then floats around. A really good indication, if you want, is to look at the local blogs, which I do daily. Channel 4, a local TV station, and the Times-Picayune both have excellent blog sites. You can look and see what people are talking about. That is where they trade all kinds of information about what they do in the city. It is rarely talked about. The people that do talk about contamination are very misinformed much of the time. They are misinformed about a lot of things, incidentally, on those blogs. And I look at it, and it makes my blood run cold, because I know that people are operating a set of instructions. Whether or not that stuff is on EPA's site, I have seen it. It takes me a while to find it. I am not convinced that many people are getting it. What does trouble me about the CDC, EPA sites is sometimes, they will say things like we have no evidence of X, but what they don't say is we haven't tested for it yet. And that is a very misleading statement to say there is no evidence of long-term health risks when they haven't tested for long-term health risks. Ms. Solis. My time is running short, but I want to throw this out there as well. We heard earlier from the EPA representative that about 80 percent of the drinking water system is back. However, 2.3 million people still don't have access, so my question is directed at our water experts here, was our system adequate before Katrina, and what is it that we could have done to help, knowing that Katrina was coming? Mr. Ragone. Well, I think the real reason, as I said in the last paragraph of my written testimony, for being here, is to start thinking proactively about the next one. Certainly, Katrina is a terrible disaster. We have to take advantage of what we have learned there, and get a proactive strategy in place that prevents these things from happening anywhere in the country, be it natural disaster or terrorist act. We have to think proactively. One of the concerns in many places in the country, with regard to household wells, is that poor people living in old houses have inadequate wells. What we have to do as a proactive measure is provide poor people with adequate wells, and some understanding of how to maintain them. If we do that, if we could keep people in their place, if they had drinking water, the catastrophe in the Katrina-affected area would have been lessened. We don't want to make vagrants of our communities if we don't have to. If we installed a deep well in a firehouse, with a stand alone generator that was safe from floodwaters, raised up some way, we could have provided a water resource for these people, and we wouldn't have people migrating, swimming for tens of miles through muck and this contaminated sediment, to get somewhere that was nowhere. We just have to start thinking proactively. And the last point is, we have two types of water in this country that are managed differently, surface water, and groundwater. If you put them together, they have a complementary function that can save us during disasters. If we use ground water when surface water is contaminated, we benefit. If there is excess surface water, we can put it in the ground. We benefit. We have a bureaucracy now, a national and local bureaucracy, that separates those functions, and takes away that complementary benefit, and that is put at risk in places. Ms. Solis. They even compete with each other. Mr. Ragone. They can help each other. Ms. Solis. Yes. Yes. Mr. Ragone. And right now, they are not. They are competing with each other. Mr. Bass. The time of the gentlelady has expired. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Pennsylvania, Dr. Murphy, for 5 minutes. Mr. Murphy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am certainly moved by your testimony, Dr. Wright. My dad was born in Louisiana, and when I traced the Murphy family roots, I look back in the 19th Century, the thousands of Irish that came to New Orleans and died, because they were seen as animals, and even lower than slaves, as they helped to build that city in the list of the thousands who died there trying to do that. So, my heart, and that of Pennsylvanians, also go out to all of you, in as I want to make sure that we don't re-victimize the victims, and by that, I mean that we look to the people throughout the entire area affected by Hurricane Katrina as survivors and not victims. And to me, it is important, the way we don't re- victimize them is to turn this into a political game of who is to blame. And let us attack, and let us talk about it has to be an independent commission, as opposed to something Congress can do? Because I believe that automatically assumes that people in Washington, or Members of Congress, do not have the care and compassion to do that. And I would like to get that away from politics, and let us just talk about finding the right answers here, because I think you both are from Jesuit universities, too, which I am, as well, and I respect that, because of a need to ask questions. But let me ask a very tough question on this, of this panel. Well, some of you have said the health problems are so bad, it is no way habitable now, and I believe I am not sure when it will be in a situation to be habitable. In the North, we have areas of brownfields, where mills have been for years, where perhaps some oil and gas work have done, and basically, the EPA and the Department of Environmental Protection in Pennsylvania comes in and says you know what, it is never habitable for homeowners. Maybe you can do an industrial site here, maybe you can do some commercial development here, and pave it all over, but it is never going to be right for homeowners again, so don't consider that. If it is so serious, I mean, I think of the, what, hundreds of thousands of vehicles, that as the water came into the gas tanks, the gas flowed out. As the chemicals leaked from there, and all of the everything else, is it really to the point where someone has to ask that question, will it ever be habitable? I open it up to the panel. Ms. Wright. Well, I have been working in this area with people who have lived on top of hazardous waste site, Superfund sites, and all kinds of sites, and each time, we have been told by EPA that there is a possible cleanup for these types of sites. So, I don't believe that the city of New Orleans is so contaminated that it will never be habitable again. But I do know that if we don't clean it up right, we will end up with two thirds of the city being a Superfund site, as we have, in fact, experienced with the Agriculture Street Landfill community in the city of New Orleans, that was built on top of the New Orleans Landfill, where all of the debris from Hurricane Betsy was put. And 20 years later, you know, it is a Superfund site, with people sick and dying. So, my real concern is that the appropriate testing is done, and the right remediation is put in place and completed, and that there are no differentials in the way that is done, based on race and class. Those things, I am very interested in. Mr. Murphy. Are you suggesting Congress would act that way, based on race and class? Ms. Wright. No, I am not. I am saying that things have been done that way where I live. Mr. Murphy. Well, we want to make sure that doesn't---- Ms. Wright. I wasn't talking about Congress. Mr. Murphy. Well, I want to make sure we don't do that, but part of it, as we are looking at tens of billions of dollars here, I am real concerned, as you are, about the safety of the folks, and I want to make sure we protect them, and part of the question is, and people are raising it around the country, and because you are there, it is so important for me to hear directly from you on this, all of you on this. Are we better off relocating the city, rather than rebuilding it there? I am opening it---- Ms. Wright. Are you asking me that? Mr. Murphy. Well, I am asking all of you that. I mean, certainly, if I lived there, I would say I want to go home, but part of it is I am really very concerned about the public health issue you are raising, and what it would take, and if it is not--I don't know. I am asking you as experts in these issues, if it is solvable, asking all of you that. And that is a question Congress has to ask. How do we make it safe for the public, so people go home there, but we are not just simply saying--because here is the thing: I would think there is a couple issues. We would be wrong if we simply said well, we will fix it up, but go back there. We know you are going to get sick again. I think that would be a terrible thing. Or what is it going to take to fix it to the level where people can be protected, or their health. I need to know the answers---- Ms. Wright. Are we asking everyone in California to leave, because of earthquakes and all of these things that we deal with every year? I mean, that is really a strange question to me. Mr. Murphy. Let me answer this, because I mean no harm in this. I am trying to find out--it is much like when people live along the Mississippi River and it floods, and FEMA comes in and pays them, and it floods again, and FEMA says you are in high-risk area. We can't keep doing this. It is a matter, because we have such a huge public health concern there, I want to make sure we are not sending back to an area where they are going to get harmed. I think that would be the worst thing that we could put them in a harmful situation, and yet, we want to be compassionate, because they want to go home. I would love to see that. I am trying to find the balance. I don't mean harm in that. Please understand. I want to find how we can solve that. Mr. Verchick. I think the short answer is we have to save New Orleans, and that we can. We can protect it through engineering from the floods. We can scoop up, change, pull up the contaminated areas, and over time, as we learn more, we will know what we are dealing with, and I think we will be able to do it. One difference between the Mississippi coast and the Alabama coast and New Orleans is that New Orleans is a city over 300 years old, a cultural gem in the world, just like Venice, and just like the Netherlands, both of which are also sinking. We have the technology to save it. Mr. Bass. The time of the gentleman from Pennsylvania has expired. The Chair would---- Ms. Wright. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Bass. Yes, ma'am. Ms. Wright. I would like to be excused. I have to catch a plane at 5. Mr. Bass. Absolutely. Ms. Wright. Thank you. Mr. Bass. The Chair will excuse Dr. Wright. Thank you very much for your testimony. I would also like to ask unanimous consent for members to submit questions to witnesses in writing. If there is no objection, so ordered. And the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Maine, Mr. Allen, for 5 minutes. Mr. Allen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank all of you for being here today. A special thanks to Secretary Gautreaux and Mayor Rutledge. I have done what you are doing today. Sometimes, it is like watching grass grow, to not be in the room during this kind of conversation. I very much appreciate your being here. I would like to ask some questions growing out of Mr. Olson's testimony, about EPA's role and how EPA is acting, and whether or not it is living up to its responsibility, to basically make sure that you all are safe, and the public is safe. EPA has said that it is doing testing, but the decision on whether or not it is safe to return will be left to local authorities. It is unclear, from Mr. Peacock's testimony, who would do the analysis upon which to base those decisions. I mean, is this a case where we have multiple people out trying to analyze a smattering of data, or what? I mean, how are we going to get there? And built into this question is really another question about, I guess this is probably for the mayor and Secretary Gautreaux, what your experience has been dealing with the EPA in the course of your efforts to get your feet back on the ground. And so, I guess maybe, Ms. Gautreaux, why don't we begin with you? Ms. Gautreaux. Okay. Well, today, again, repeating what we said earlier, when you can officially come back in, a complex one that involves a lot. I will tell you from our perspective in Louisiana, EPA has been very helpful to us. We have decided on long and short-term sampling strategies. We are coordinating on information, and these are the types of things that we are providing to the public officials. We have the same concerns that have been expressed earlier about the water, drinking water systems down. People do need to be careful, especially if they are sensitive, when they go in the areas. From our perspective, EPA has not only helped in terms of strategizing and helping carrying out sampling, they also provided equipment, such as the TAGA monitoring vehicles that go through neighborhoods, planes that are able to fly over and detect leaks in facilities, and also, different components in fires. Actually, we have about 100 EPA employees over here, and we meet, and it is not just a meeting. We have them throughout the day, but every day, we get together with our other State and Federal partners, and say what is the issue, how are we going to approach it? How are we making progress in the areas that we think are directly related to public health and safety? So, I hope that answers some of your questions. Mr. Allen. Thank you very much. Mayor Rutledge, I don't know if you have had similar kind of contact, but can you comment on what it is like from your community? Mr. Rutledge. Well, sir, the monitoring is very important. The key to it is, is we are getting those tests back, or those results back. It is important for us to know what they are, because we can turn around and share that with the public. What is happening right now, there is a gap, because the people, they are looking for somebody to give those answers. And of course, what they are doing, they are calling the local officials, and they are calling their local people, saying well, where are they? How safe are we? No one is going to allow anyone to go back in their home. No one is going to allow anyone to go back into the community unless it is safe. And I think we all need to be thinking about that, No. 1, but you know, when you talk about people that don't have a home any more, that don't have a place to go, then it is going to be hard for you to keep that person out of that little block of land. It belongs to that person. Because a lot of times, you know, you adapt to the situation regardless if you want to or not. Mr. Allen. Okay. Thank you. Other panelists here, any reaction to that? Mr. Olson? Mr. Olson. Well, I will just say a couple things. One is that I don't think there is anybody that would argue that EPA should not be much more comprehensive testing. Well, there probably are people that would argue that. But that there needs to be fair testing, wherever people are going to be returning. And that testing needs to not just be released on a website. Most of the folks that have been displaced can't log onto the web, and even if you read what is on their website, you know, you would practically have to have a Ph.D. in chemistry to understand some of what is in there. So, it is important to have understandable information accessible to people, and to be public with that, and much more comprehensive in the testing. And we believe EPA, under the National Contingency Plan and other legal requirements, does have a legal obligation to decide whether it is safe or not. If you have got 2.3 million people with unsafe drinking water and no sewage treatment, I mean, is it really safe to be sending people into that with toxic muck, we have heard, four feet deep in many communities. You know, is that really a place people should be returning. Maybe you don't block them, but certainly, you give them protective gear, and you give them the information they need. Mr. Allen. So your bottom line is you don't think EPA is fulfilling all those responsibilities. Mr. Olson. Well, they certainly have been trying, and I don't want to say that they are not doing anything. They certainly have got a lot of people there that are working very hard. The problem has been communications and extent of the testing, and making sure the information is getting put forward in an accurate way, and ultimately, stepping up to the plate and saying, yes, it is safe, or no, it is not. And we don't think they have really been fulfilling that obligation. Mr. Allen. Mr. Chairman, my time is up, but I wondered if any of the other panelists could just answer the question? Mr. Ragone. Just one thing. I think there is a matter of distribution of labor here that has to be considered. I used to be with U.S. Geological Survey, and I was happy to know that we provided information to the benefit of society. EPA's research has to do the same kind of thing, and one of the limitations of funding with EPA is maybe what are the health implications of compounds A, B, C, D, and that list gets longer and longer. I think EPA has a major responsibility to know health implications of a variety of contaminants that we are facing all over the world. I think, in terms of distribution of labor, it should be the local communities, the health departments. Mayor Rutledge said this. He wants his own people and his own communities solving the problems, but that requires training and opportunities to gain knowledge, and to exchange that research caliber information with EPA, it is just another organization, CDC and the like, and put it on the ground locally, so those communities can solve the problems in the context of their community. You will never get enough money to any Federal agency or to any community. Mr. Allen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Bass. Thank you very much. I would like to ask one more question. We apparently haven't had votes yet, so we got a couple more minutes. If you ladies and gentlemen would be good enough to wait around for a second. Long-term impact on Lake Pontchartrain and the Gulf of Mexico. Do we have any idea what the assessment is at this point? Any brief observations as to what our options are, and what the impact is going to be? I didn't even know Lake Pontchartrain existed a month and a half ago, and now, we understand exactly what the problems are and the priorities. It is my understanding that prior to the hurricane, it was swimmable, there had been a long history of trying to clean it up. Is that gone now? Perhaps. Secretary? Ms. Gautreaux. Would you like me to address that? Mr. Bass. Yes, please. Ms. Gautreaux. Okay. We have actually been a partner with the local governments in the parishes that surround Lake Pontchartrain and others in improving water quality. We were very disappointed, although we understood the priority had to be to get the water off of the flooded areas in New Orleans, for public health and safety reasons. To date, what we have seen has actually been very encouraging. The water quality samples that have been taken have been pretty parallel with big storm water events, and we are confident that the fecal bacteria will die off within a couple of days. It is salty water in Lake Pontchartrain. It is an estuarine lake. Organics will eventually decompose. We may see some fish kills associated with the oxygen being eaten up during the decomposition process, for lack of a technical explanation, and also, that metals will ultimately adhere to sediments and be buried. This wouldn't have been our preference, but we are very encouraged, as are the local citizens organizations. I say citizens--elected officials, a group, a cross-section of people of the Lake Pontchartrain Basin have been very encouraged about the results to date, that we will see a healthier lake in a few months, but we are certainly setting up, and they are helping us with a fairly comprehensive monitoring strategy in case we do see something that needs to be addressed. But so far, we are very encouraged, actually surprisingly so at the resilience of the lake, and the results of sampling to date. Mr. Bass. Thank you. Mr. Olson. Could I just add one thing? There are a couple of significant issues here that need to be addressed. One is the sediments that were just mentioned. We are very concerned about the heavy metals and other organics and so on, that are going to be adhered to the sediments, some of which washed up into the Lower Ninth Ward and elsewhere, and people are going to be exposed to this. So some of it that dries up is going to turn into dust, and people may inhale it, but at the bottom of Lake Pontchartrain, we are also very worried about what is going to happen with those sediments. The other point, you asked about the Gulf. As you probably know, there is already an area in the Gulf that is known as the Dead Zone, which grows and shrinks, but at some points is, I have heard, larger than your state, which is a pretty significant size of an area that is sort of unfishable. A lot of that is from the upper Midwest pollution coming down, and too many nutrients. The concern is, of course, that may have been exacerbated by this flood, and I don't know if you had more to say about that. Mr. Verchick. The only thing that I would add is that more testing has to be done about the heavy metals that are in Lake Pontchartrain to say that if they sink to the bottom and get buried in the sand, that neutralizes them somehow is not true, particularly when you consider that the lake itself is very shallow, about 15 feet, 20 feet deep maximum. And so, if you have got dredging going on, or other things going on, that will affect the bottom, you are going to have all that stuff coming back up in the water. Mr. Bass. Thank you very much. The Chair recognizes the gentlelady from California for a second round for 5 minutes. Ms. Solis. Thank you. I missed my opportunity to ask EPA regarding testing around Superfund sites and landfills, and I would like to get feedback from you all. If you feel that, you know, what your opinion is about what EPA has or has not been doing in those particular areas, given that we have such a large number of Superfund sites in this area. Mr. Olson. Mr. Olson. Well, we feel that the testing that has been done so far has not been adequate, not just with Superfund sites. I believe there are four in Orleans Parish, one of which was the Agriculture Street Landfill that we have heard about, and they did do testing, at least one test, right around there. We think you need to do ongoing testing, first of all, and make sure you are testing the whole area for a suite of chemicals. But what we are worried about is all these other areas that nobody is talking about. There are a large number of areas with industrial waste, with industrial facilities, tanks that have been floated and crumpled, as a result of the flooding, where there are no tests whatsoever that have been announced. We are very concerned about what that means, and what all these toxic sediments being washed up means. So that is where there needs to be independent testing, we believe, and more comprehensive testing. Ms. Solis. One of the concerns I have is if we are going to be having a lot of reconstruction going on, obviously, and I am very fearful of what I am hearing, that we are not doing enough testing. We are going to be bringing people in there, to relocate and help us restore--and what kind of appropriate safety measures are we taking for this new influx of people, who are coming from different parts or regions of the United States, to come in there and work, and we are, at the same time, lowering standards. We are relaxing some of those environmental standards, as well as prevailing wages. So I am very concerned, and would love to get your opinion, from any one of the panelists. Mr. Verchick. One thing to watch, when you have got a lot of construction going on, and I noticed this the last time I was in New Orleans, is you have got this dried muck now, that may have heavy metals in it, it certainly has bacterial things and so on. And you have got lots of large machinery moving through the city now, Humvees, big trucks, you are going to have, of course, more and more of that as construction begins. That pushes all that dust up into the air, and it is landing, now, in places that look like they had no standing water before. I mean, places that never got water, and that looked completely normal, under the circumstances, EPA has found through its air monitoring, has alarming levels of particulate matter in them. And so you know, where my kids used to go to school, which didn't get flooding, now has air that children are told they shouldn't be breathing. And you have got to keep an eye on that, and that is going to be happening many months from now, with all of the construction going on. Ms. Solis. Any other comments on infrastructure? That, for me, is a big issue area. We have had some discussions in our subcommittee on the fact that, perhaps, the Congress could have done, or could do much more, in terms of helping to develop a better infrastructure, and underground storage tank protections, and a lot of things, obviously, that are going to affect our drinking water supply. Mr. Ragone. Yes, we didn't have time to put everything in our testimony, but even such things as strategic ground water reserves, that you identify well in advance of any need, as a place to go when you need water, when surface water is contaminated, you have a strategic groundwater reserve in a deep, confined aquifer, protected from environmental issues. Put a well into that. Secure that well from terrorists, from hurricanes, from everything. And then, when you need it, you go there, you put it on, you pump that water, just like a strategic oil reserve. It is an emergency source of water. It could be brackish water. It doesn't have to be the best water. You know, oh, it tastes a little salty. As long as the people have something to drink, to flush out distribution lines, to fight fires, we don't think about that. New York City relies on a surface water supply only. What happens there if that goes down for some reason? What are they going to drink? If they had a backup groundwater system that they could rely on, not nearly as much water, not nearly as good quality, they would be safe in their place. And that is a big issue. Regarding the first point you make, this is a little bit out of the national ground water, but it is my old USGS hat. I think Congressman Murphy brought up brownfields. There might be, in New Orleans, a redefinition of what a Superfund is, in terms of its geographical distribution, and what a brownfield is, in terms of its geographical distribution. These contaminants you talk about floating in the air, coming back down in the soils, you could be redefining the boundaries of a brownfields based on the redistribution of a contaminant load. You could be redefining a Superfund site based on the redistribution of a contaminant load, and I think you don't want anybody living in a brownfield, you don't want anybody living in a Superfund site, and so that is part of the considerations of where do you rebuild, and where you don't rebuild, and what do you remediate, and what you don't remediate. You have to set priorities, and I think the best way to set a priority is define your zones of contamination, define the risks to people in those zones of contamination, and design a remediation plan for the city of New Orleans, with an understanding of how to protect people with these zones of contamination residing all around them. Mr. Bass. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Pennsylvania, Dr. Murphy, for another 5 minutes. Mr. Murphy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have one question, because I didn't get Secretary Gautreaux's response to the question I was asking before, if she thought that the New Orleans area, with all these contaminants that we have heard about, and bacterial issues, if that area would be reinhabitable, and how long that would take, and I would love to have your response, please. Ms. Gautreaux. It will definitely depend on why the area is not being inhabited at the time. People are correct when they said we don't have a lot of sampling information in some areas, particularly industrial areas. Actually, those were some of the last areas we could get access to. We were preparing to go in those areas when Rita struck, so I think you will see a lot more sampling throughout the city. We may very well find areas that need to be remediated, and that needs to be noted, and properly remediated. In terms of large areas, I have heard references to the new Love Canal. We have not seen that to date, but we fully expect to find contaminated areas that need to be remediated. That is part of the assessment that is the next level of effort right now. So I hope that helps, but to date, we have not seen, especially in residential areas, indications that people will not be able to return to those areas. There may not be structures there, but so far, we have not seen large areas that won't be inhabitable. Mr. Murphy. So you are saying that--Mayor, it looks like you are nodding your head. Do you have similar thoughts, or you are--Mayor Rutledge? Mr. Rutledge. Yes, I would have to agree with that in Mississippi, also. Right now, is it being monitored and surveyed? Right now, there is not any place that the people can't come back home, but like the lady said, there might not be anything to come back home to. Mr. Murphy. And so my understanding is, from what you are saying, Secretary, is that you will be evaluating that. It is too soon to tell, but you will be watching that, and make decisions based upon that? Okay. Thank you. Ms. Gautreaux. Exactly. We expect to find areas that need to be remediated. Mr. Murphy. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Gautreaux. And we will make decisions. Mr. Bass. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Maine for 5 minutes. It is my feeling--are there going to be any more questions after this, or are we done? Okay. Very well. This is the last 5 minutes, and then we will adjourn the hearing. The gentleman from Maine. Mr. Allen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to ask a question based on the daily printout from the EPA. There is a printout here, which speaks to debris assessment and collection, and it says that EPA personnel continue to offer technical assistance in the disposal of hazardous wastes and other debris left behind by the storm. This is throughout the area. As of 9/22, EPA has collected over 37,500 orphaned containers throughout the affected region, that are household hazardous wastes. I don't know if that is a bottle of bleach, or if it is an oil tank, really, and I wondered if anyone could--I mean, I don't mean an oil tank. I mean, a barrel of oil. And I wondered if anyone on the panel could speak to that. Ms. Gautreaux. Well, I can volunteer that EPA has been very active, particularly in the parishes north of Lake Pontchartrain, where access has been possible. They have been very aggressive in terms of collecting orphaned containers. You are right, it might be a barrel of pesticide. It could be something you would normally find beneath your sink, that qualifies as a household hazardous waste. They are preparing to do similar sweeps in the parishes that have been more heavily impacted by the floodwaters. As they get strategies to move into neighborhoods in New Orleans, they are preparing to do the same, and in St. Bernard, and Plaquemines Parishes. They have also been going to places like Home Depot, some of their public information officers, just an example where people would go when you are typically rebuilding and repairing, handing out literature, so that has actually been a very active effort to date, and it will step up as access is increased. Mr. Allen. Thank you. Anybody else? Mr. Olson? Mr. Olson. Yes, I would just like to add the point, which is we have also heard anecdotal reports of widespread small spills and small sheens all over the place. It might be from underground storage tanks that are leaking. It might be from cars. It might be from a variety of things. We are very concerned about the long-term effects of that. And I just wanted to add one point, which hasn't been raised, which is directly responsive to a previous question. EPA and the State of Louisiana were both under an obligation, under the Safe Drinking Water Act, there hasn't been much discussion of this, since 1996, to adopt and implement an adequate plan for provision of safe drinking water under emergency circumstances, including earthquakes, floods, and hurricanes. That was supposed to be in place after the 1996 law. It will be interesting to see why that never happened, and what is going on in other states that might have a similar situation in the future. Mr. Allen. Mr. Chairman, I yield back. Mr. Bass. Thank you very much, Mr. Allen, and I want to thank all of our witnesses here today. I want to especially thank the two of you who have been very patient. It isn't easy to conduct the kind of testimony that we have had, but it has been exceedingly informational and helpful to us. We have some big challenges ahead of us. That is clear. And I want to thank the members who were here today. And we will be submitting some questions in writing. So if there is no business to come before the subcommittee, the committee stands adjourned. 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