[NIFL-ESL:10007] Re: Fw: Diversity in staffing

From: Dottie Shattuck (dottie@shattuck.net)
Date: Thu Mar 11 2004 - 10:58:54 EST


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I can't resist asking -- what is the "correct" accent?  Maine, S. Carolina. Ohio,
W. Texas, Boston, etc (in the US) or 1 of the UK's various "English accents"?
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| Why then is it so essential to have native speakers of
| English perceived as being the most valid teachers of
| the language? On what grounds
|
| A correct accent is essential in my opinion to teach any language.I have a
friend who teaches ESOL  with a very heavy Spanish accent, She is not clearly
intelligible in her pronunciation and her emphasis is on the wrong syllable many
times.  I, my self, wouldn't want to learn  a language from someone who wasn't a
native if I had the choice.
| Tanya Tweeton GED and ESOL
| Fort Lauderdale, Florida
| > Maria,
| >
| > Thanks again for another sensitive and well thought
| > out response. I was taught English in India. I grew up
| > speaking English, Hindi and Marathi (and understanding
| > Punjabi, Gujarati and Malvani) almost simultaneously.
| > And as Americans have pointed out, I *DO* have an
| > accent. An Indian accent from western India, and a
| > strong British pronunciation. Everyone has an accent.
| >
| > ESOL for me is similar to the FLE classes my son had
| > to take when he started school last year in France,
| > which is Francais Langue Etrangere, or French as a
| > Foreign Language. What matters is communication. The
| > difference between high school language lessons and
| > ESOL to me is the difference between learning Language
| > as a subject (and thus no real emphasis on speaking or
| > communicating or learning the living spoken language)
| > and learning a spoken living language. ESOL to me,
| > represents the latter. We hear this all the time, "I
| > had five years of Spanish/German/French in school and
| > still can't speak it." That to me is a subject. And
| > more often than not, we are taught this by non-native
| > speakers of the language.
| >
| > Why then is it so essential to have native speakers of
| > English perceived as being the most valid teachers of
| > the language? On what grounds? Seems more of a
| > sociopolitical thing to me, rather than something
| > based on research or inquiry. Should it not be mastery
| > of the language and the ability to teach it well be
| > the reason we hire teachers?
| >
| > regards,
| > Ujwala Samant
| >
| > Director
| > Learning for Life UK
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
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