Ending Chronic Homelessness Through Employment and Housing Call Session

PLEASE BE SURE TO NOTE THAT ON PAGE 42819, UNDER THE SECTION TITLED, “HAND DELIVERED APPLICATION”, THE SGA INCORRECTLY NOTES THE DEALINE FOR SUBMISSION AS AUGUST TH. IN AN EARLIER SECTION OF THE SGA, ON THIS SAME PAGE, UNDER THE SECTION TITLE “DATES” IT CORRECTLY STATES THE DUE DATE AS AUGUST TH. TO BE CLEAR THE DUE DATE IS AUGUST 20TH.

DOL TELEPHONE CONFERENCE

JULY 28, 2003,

BEGINNING THE TELEPHONE CONFERENCE:

Paul Hippolitus of ODEP moderated the call and introduced Mark Johnston, the principle HUD representative as well as Cassandra Willis, the Grant Officer at DOL. Initial introductions and words of welcome were not recorded due to technical difficulties. The transcript begins below.

>> YES, I AM CASSANDRA WILLIS. I AM THE

GRANT OFFICES TECHNICAL REPRESENTATIVE. I JUST

WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS

CONFERENCE IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY FULLY

UNDERSTANDS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PROJECTS.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE TOPICS THAT MUST BE AVOIDED SUCH

AS DISCUSSION OF PROPRIETARY INFORMATION FROM ONE

GRANTEE THAT IS NOT TO BE DISSEMINATED IN ADDITION TO

THE TECHNICAL APPROACH TO BE SUBMITTED BY EACH OF THE

RESPONDENTS. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I WILL TURN IT

OVER TO PAUL AND WE'LL GET TO THE QUESTIONS AND

ANSWERS.

>> ONE MORE COLLEAGUE FROM WASHINGTON

JOINED US. I WANTED TO INTRODUCE DORIS RIPPEY, from ETA.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR UP TO QUESTIONS, AS

I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GO STATE BY STATE. I'LL CALL

OUT YOUR STATE'S NAME. I'LL TRUST YOU TO BE FROM

THERE.

IF YOU HAVE NO QUESTION, BE SILENT FOR FIVE

SECONDS OR SAY "NO QUESTIONS NOW," AND WE'LL GO ON TO

THE NEXT STATE. SO THE FIRST STATE IS ALASKA. ARE

THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PERSON FROM ALASKA?

ARIZONA, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PERSON FROM

ARIZONA.

>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU HEAR

ME?

>> YES, PLEASE ASK.

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE

PAGE COLLABORATION APPLICATION UNDER SECTION THREE,

AND THE PAGE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT NARRATIVE?

>> THE PAGE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT

NARRATIVE IS FOR THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM

PART OF THE EFFORT. THE COLLABORATIVE PAGE

PROPOSAL IS A DESCRIPTION OR A NARRATIVE IDENTIFYING

AND DESCRIBING HOW EACH THE HUD HOMELESS SERVICE

PROVIDER AND THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROVIDER WILL

WORK IN PARTNERSHIP TO SERVE PERSONS WHO ARE

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS. SO IT'S A BRIDGE PIECE. IT'S

A DESCRIPTION OF COOPERATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO

ELEMENTS.

REMEMBER THAT THE LOCAL WORK FORCE BOARD

GETS THE DOL EMPLOYMENT GRANT AND THE HOMELESS

COMMUNITY PROVIDER GETS THE HUD PERMANENT HOUSING

AWARD. AND IT'S WORKING TOGETHER. THAT MAKES THIS A

UNIQUE KIND OF PROGRAM.

>> SO THE TOTAL PAGE LIMIT WOULD BE

PAGES?

>> YES. NOT INCLUDING HUD, RIGHT?

>> YES, NOT INCLUDING HUD, JUST FOR THE

CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROPOSAL , AND THE

COLLABORATION PROPOSAL .

>> THANK YOU.

>> CALIFORNIA?

>> YES, HI. I HAVE A QUESTION. IF THE

APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A COLLABORATIVE PROPOSAL, THAT

IS A MULTISERVICE PARTNERS OR IS IT A COMPETITIVE

BIDDING PROCESS REQUIRED?

>> YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND NAME YOUR

PARTNERS, THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION TOO. HELLO?

>> YES.

>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE

MATCHING FUNDS FOR HUD?

>> YES.

>> IS THAT STRICTLY JUST FOR HUD? IS IT

OVER THE FIRST YEAR?

>> THE MATCHING REQUIREMENTS IN LAW FOR

HUD'S PROGRAMS ARE DURING THE COURSE OF THE GRANT

TERM. SO FOR THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM IT'S

OVER THE THREE YEAR PERIOD. AND OVER THE SHELTER

PLUS SQUARE, IT'S FIVE YEARS.

>> SO IT DEPENDS ON WHICH OPTION YOU’RE

GOING UNDER.

>> LOS ANGELES HAS A QUESTION. WE WOULD

LIKE TO KNOW, ON THE WIA ELIGIBILITY IT SAYS LOCAL

WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD OR THE WIA COOPERATIVE --

WHAT QUALIFIES AS A COOPERATIVE RECIPIENT?

>> THIS IS ON PAGE . WELL IT'S ACTUALLY

. THE DOL COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT AWARDS

ELIGIBLE LOCAL WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARDS OR THE WIA AGENT

OR FISCAL AGENT FOR THAT LOCAL AREA BOARD ON BEHALF

OF THAT LOCAL AREA BOARD.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER TO THAT

QUESTION.

>> IT HAS TO BE A LOCAL WORK FORCE

INVESTMENT BOARD OR THEIR FISCAL AGENT.

>> FOR THE CITY OR COUNTY, NOT A ONE STOP.

>> LONG ISLAND HAS A QUESTION.

>> DOES THIS SGA ENCOMPASS CHRONICALLY

HOMELESS FAMILIES WITH MORE THAN ONE PER HOUSEHOLD?

>> CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FAMILIES IS NOT A

TERM THAT IS USED BY HUD WHATSOEVER. IN THE HUD

CHRONIC INITIATIVE THAT WE DID WITH HHS AND VA THERE

WERE TWO ELIGIBILITY POPULATIONS: ONE WAS

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PERSONS AND THE OTHER WERE

DISABLED FAMILIES. THIS INITIATIVE ONLY FOCUSES ON

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PERSONS, WHICH ONLY INCLUDES

SINGLE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THOSE OTHER

CHARACTERISTICS.

>> SO EVEN IF WE HAVE FAMILIES, OUR

POPULATION IS NOT THAT LARGE IN THE FAMILIES, WE MAY

NOT APPLY FOR LARGER UNITS FOR SOME OF OUR

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FAMILIES --

>> THIS INITIATIVE IS ONLY FOR CHRONICALLY

HOMELESS PERSONS. AND THAT IS DEFINED BY ALL FEDERAL

AGENCIES AS SINGLE PERSONS, NOT INCLUDING FAMILIES.

>> OKAY.

>> OKAY, LET'S GO TO COLORADO, ONE PERSON

FROM COLORADO, QUESTION THERE?

>> HI. THIS IS TRACY FROM COLORADO, MY

QUESTION IS REALLY ON THE OLMSTEAD PIECE.

AND THE QUESTION RELATES TO, IT DESCRIBES

THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT OUR COORDINATION

WITH THE STATE'S OVERALL OLMSTEAD PLANS. THE STATE

OF COLORADO HAS NOT HAD THE GOVERNOR SIGN OR EXECUTE

OUR OLMSTEAD PLAN AS OF YET, DO WE JUST TALK ABOUT

IT IN RELATION TO SORT OF THE IDEAS THAT ARE WRITTEN

DOWN, OR WHAT?

>> THE OLMSTEAD COORDINATION HAS TO DO

WITH -- THE ENTITY OR THE PARTY IN THE STATE WHO HAS

RESPONSIBILITY FOR IMPLEMENTATION, NOT NECESSARILY

THE PLAN PER SE.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CONTACT, A CONNECTION

THAT THE OLMSTEAD AUTHORITY RECOGNIZES YOUR PROJECT

AS A PROJECT THAT WILL SUPPORT STATE IMPLEMENTATION.

SO YOU NEED A LETTER FROM THAT AUTHORITY SO STATING.

>> CONNECTICUT?

>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. FROM HARTFORD

ON PAGE THERE'S THE WORD "DIAGNOSABLE A

DISABLING CONDITION." AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MEANS

THEY DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE DIAGNOSES SO

WHAT IS THE -- COULD YOU DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT THE

PROCESS OF "DIAGNOSEABLE" AND HOW YOU WOULD JUSTIFY

THAT OR DOCUMENT THAT ON A PERSON?

>> OKAY. THIS IS A PHRASE, HHS USES THIS.

IT WAS PICKED UP FROM THE HUD HHS VA CHRONIC HOMELESS

INITIATIVE. AND FOR HUD'S PURPOSES, AS REFEREED TO

LATER IN THAT SECTION, THE ACTUAL DEFINITION OF

"DISABILITY" IS SITED IN THE REGULATIONS FOR THE

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM AND FOR SHELTER PLUS CARE.

THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND DIAGNOSEABLE FOR THIS

COMPETITION.

>> IF YOU LOOK ON THAT PAGE UNDER

"ELIGIBILITY TARGET POPULATION," -- AT THE VERY END,

IT SAYS "IN ORDER TO RECEIVE HOUSING ASSISTANCE

THROUGH THE HUD GRANTS PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS MUST MEET

THE DEFINITION OF DISABILITY FOR HSHP AND PERSONS

WITH DISABILITIES" AND IN TERMS OF WHO MAKES THAT

DETERMINATION, HUD HAS TRIED TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE ON

THAT.

WE DO NOT REQUIRE AS MAY BE REQUIRED IN

VARIOUS HHS PROGRAMS A DISABILITY DETERMINATION BY A

PSYCHIATRIST. THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT BY HUD. SO

WE LET YOU USE YOUR OWN GOOD JUDGMENT IN MAKING THAT

DETERMINATION.

>> RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON . WE'LL COME

BACK, SORRY.

D.C., ANY ONE?

FLORIDA?

HAWAII?

>> NO, FLORIDA, FLORIDA PLEASE HOLD UP.

REGARDING THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS,

WHAT TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION DO YOU HAVE TO VOUCH FOR

THAT.

>> THE FIRST PIECE I WOULD USE IF I WERE AN

APPLICANT WOULD BE A COPY OF THE POPULATIONS CHART IN

YOUR CONTINUUM OF CARE, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO HUD ON

JULY . THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST INSTANCE IN WHICH A

CONTINUUM HAS IDENTIFIED THE TOTAL ESTIMATED NUMBER OF

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PERSONS.

IF YOU'RE PROPOSING TO SERVE A LOCALE

THAT'S MUCH SMALLER THAN YOUR OVER ALL CONTINUUM, FOR

INSTANCE IT IF YOUR CONTINUUM REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE

STATE OFMONTANA -- IF YOU'RE PROPOSING TO SERVE AN AREA

WITHIN YOUR CONTINUUM THAT WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE

FOR YOU.

>> WHAT COMPRISES THE ELIGIBLE MATCH?

>> IS THIS FLORIDA?

>> YES.

>> THE ELIGIBLE MATCH IS DETERMINED ON

WHICH PROGRAM YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

>> IS IT THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM OR

SHELTER CARE?

>> SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

>> OKAY, FOR THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING

PROGRAM, IT'S CASH. BY LAW.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE ON AND GO --

>> THE QUESTION AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS

WHAT KIND OF CASH, SHOULD IT BE OTHER SOURCES OF

FEDERAL FUNDING, ANYTHING OTHER THAN SHP SUPPORTING

HOUSING PROGRAM DOLLARS, WHICH YOUR’E REQUESTING CAN BE

USED AS MATCH. SO IT COULD BE A MATCH FROM ANOTHER

AGENCY YOU HAVE IN PLACE.

BUT IT COULD BE OTHER FEDERAL SOURCES AS WELL AS

PRIVATE AND LOCAL AND STATE.

>> CAN IT BE --

>> WHAT, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE.

>> PAUL .

HAWAII?

>> THE DEADLINE IS THE TH NOT THE TH,

OTHER RELEASES I SAW THE REGISTER SAYS TH. I

ASSUME THAT IS THE CORRECT ONE.

>> YOU'RE CORRECT IN YOUR ASSUMPTION, GO BY

THE FEDERAL REGISTER.

>> AND IS THERE ANY EXPECTATION OF ANY

FOLLOW-UP YEARLY GRANT THAT'S SIMILAR LIKE THIS IN

COLLABORATION?

>> FROM THE DOL SIDE THERE IS NOTHING

PLANNED AT THIS POINT FOR NEXT YEAR.

>> ARE YOU A POTENTIAL HOUSING PROVIDER OR

EMPLOYMENT PROVIDER?

>> HOUSING?

>> OKAY.

>> HOUSING THROUGH THE CITY SUB RECIPIENT

PERHAPS.

>> I PRESUME YOU’RE FAMILIAR WITH THE

CONTINUUM CARE?

>> I SERVE ON IT, THANK YOU.

>> ILLINOIS?

INDIANA?

>> ILLINOIS?

>> I HAD TO TAKE OFF THE MUTE. MY

QUESTION, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, ONE WAS ON THE DOL

MONEY WAS THERE AN ADMINISTRATIVE TASK?

>> THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATIVE CAP, BUT

CERTAINLY YOU'LL BE JUDGED ON YOUR PROPOSAL AND

DELIVERING THE OBJECTIVES OF THE SGA AND THE

COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT. SO WHILE THERE IS NO CAP

THERE IS A SENSE OF PROPORTIONALITY THAT'S ESSENTIAL

TO THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM.

>> CERTAINLY, THE SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT

IS THE DEFINITION FOR THE EPISODE FOR THE THREE

EPISODES OF HOMELESSNESS? HOW LONG IS A EPISODE? IS

IT JUST ONE NIGHT OR MULTIPLE NIGHTS?

>> ONE NIGHT IS AN EPISODE, ONE OR MORE.

>> WERE THERE ANY PERFORMANCE MEASURES,

SPECIFICALLY ASSOCIATED IN THE SGA?

>> NO EXPLICIT ONES FROM THE HUD

PROSPECTIVE WE HAVE THE

ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT THERE, ANNUAL OUTCOME

OBJECTIVES ARE CONTAINED THERE.

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO ILLINOIS I THINK WAS

NEXT. THAT WAS ILLINOIS. INDIANA?

LOUISIANA?

MAINE?

>> EXPLAIN, CAN HOMELESS VETERANS

REINTEGRATION PROGRAM BONDS BE USED TO MATCH THE

SHELTER IN PLUS CARE?

>> IF IT'S CASH, AND THAT CASH CAN BE USED

TO ACQUIRE A BUILDING OR REHABILITATE A BUILDING OR

PAY FOR HUD OPERATING COSTS THEN YES.

>> I WAS THINKING OF SHELTER PLUS CARE AND

THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICE, TRAINING AND SUPPORT DOLLARS

AVAILABLE UNDER THE HPRP PROGRAM, MAINE HAS A HPRP

AWARD.

>> IT'S NOT USED TO SERVE PEOPLE.

>> IT IS BE SERVED BUT, THE IDEA WOULD BE

TO CO-ENROLL HVRP VETERANS --

>> THIS IS JOHN IN NEW YORK. HRP SERVICE

FUNDING DOES NOT COVER ANYBODY WHO MOVES INTO

PERMANENT HOUSING. THE SERVICE DOLLARS CAN NOT BE

USED FOR TENANTS OF PERMANENT HOUSING.

>> THAT DOES REMIND ME, THAT'S JUST FOR

TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. GOOD POINT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MAINE, AND JOHN TOO.

>> MARYLAND.

>> MARYLAND?

MASSACHUSETTS?

>> WE HAVE A QUESTION. I CAN GET MORE

INFORMATION ABOUT THE ELIGIBLE HOMELESS COMMUNITY

PROVIDED, IT'S RATHER CLEAR THAT LOCAL WIBS ARE THE

ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS FOR DOL FUNDS, COULD YOU TELL US

WHO WOULD BE MORE ELIGIBLE FOR HOMELESS COMMUNITY

FRONTS IN?

>> ESSENTIALLY ANY NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION

WHO HAS A C STATUS, ANY CITY OR STATE, PUBLIC

HOUSING AUTHORITY, IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT KIND OF

PROGRAM YOU'RE APPLYING FOR FROM HUD. BUT ANY

HOMELESS PROVIDER IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE

FOR ONE OF THE TWO HUD HOMELESS PROGRAMS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANOTHER MASSACHUSETTS QUESTION?

>> YES, GO AHEAD.

>> FOR THE DOL AGREEMENT, CAN A ONE STOP --

ONE STOPS ARE CHARTERED IN OUR REGION, SO CAN THEY BE

AN APPLICANT?

>> DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION?

>> YES, WE DID.

WE'RE HUDDLING HERE, HOLD ON.

>> NO. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE LOCAL WORK

FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD.

>> SECOND QUESTION, IF YOU'RE REGION COVERS

YOUR WIA REGION COVERS MORE THAN ONE CONTINUUM

THEN YOU'LL NEED AGREEMENTS WITH EACH OF THE

CONTINUUMS, AM I CORRECT?

>> COULD YOU RESTATE THAT PLEASE.

>> IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE CONTINUUM

WITHIN THE AREA IN WHICH THE LWIB COVERS, THEN ALL

THOSE CONTINUUMS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE

PROJECT, AM I CORRECT?

>> RIGHT. UNDERSTAND, IT'S JUST AN

INCIDENTAL COVERAGE, IF ONE CONTINUUM IS COVERING %

OF THE AREA, THEN YOU WOULDN'T. OTHERWISE, YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MICHIGAN?

>> HI, YES. ON THE FUNDING BLENDING

BETWEEN DOL AND HUD, WE ANTICIPATE THAT ALL THE

SUPPORT SERVICE NEEDS OF THE CLIENTS WILL BE PROVIDED

EITHER UNDER THE DOL FUND OR UNDER LEVERAGE FUNDS.

CAN THE HUD FUNDS BE USED AT ALL FOR SUPPORT

SERVICES?

>> HUD FUNDS FOR THIS INITIATIVE CAN NOT BE

USED AT ALL FOR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. ONCE THE RATING

FACTORS TO GET A HIGH SCORE HUD IS TO IDENTIFY OTHER

SOURCES OF FUNDING IN ADDITION TO THE EMPLOYMENT

ASSISTANCE THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED FROM DOL.

THIS IS FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR SHELTER PLUS

CARE GRANTEES IN THAT HUD DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY OF THE

SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. AND FOR INSTANCE IN THE

INITIATIVE TODAY, THE EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE WOULD BE

PROVIDED.

FOR SHELTER PLUS CARE NOT EVEN THAT WOULD

BE AVAILABLE.

SO NO, HUD FUNDS CAN NOT BE USED FOR

SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR THIS INITIATIVE.

>> THANK YOU,

>> THANK YOU. MICHIGAN?

>> ANOTHER QUESTION FOR MICHIGAN RELATIVE

TO SORT OF THE MIX OF EMPLOYMENT SERVICES OR

EMPLOYMENT SUPPORTS AND OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES. CAN

YOU GIVE US ANY GUIDELINES RELEVANT TO THAT?

>> I BELIEVE THE SGA INDICATES THAT THERE

CAN BE OTHER SERVICES IN ADDITION TO EMPLOYMENT

SERVICES, DO YOU HAVE ANY GUIDELINES OUT FOR PORTIONS

OF THOSE?

>> NO. BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU TO READ THE

CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT DEFINITION AND OF COURSE THE

RATING CRITERIA THAT WOULD GIVE YOU AS MUCH ANSWER AS

WE CAN GIVE YOU.

>> MINNESOTA?

>> MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH TIMING, I

GUESS.

WE'RE WONDERING, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG YOU

THINK THAT YOU WILL TAKE TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS,

MAKE A DECISION. AND WHEN YOU MAKE THE DECISION, IS

THAT GOING TO BE THE DATE OF THE GRANT AWARD LETTER?

>> THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR FUNDS THAT ARE

COMMITTED TO THIS COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT OR THIS

PROPOSAL ARE FISCAL YEAR ' MONIES WHICH MEANS THE

AWARD MUST BE MADE NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER TH.

IT'S PROBABLY AN AWARD THAT DOL WILL MAKE DURING THE

MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

>> AND WE'LL (HUD) CERTAINLY REVIEW IT AT A PACE

TO KEEP UP WITH THAT. THIS WILL BE JOINTLY AWARDED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MISSISSIPPI. MISSISSIPPI?

>> MISSOURI?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MISSOURI.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU DESCRIBED WHAT

DOL CLASSIFIED AS ELIGIBLE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES UNDER

THIS?

>> AGAIN, I WOULD LOOK AT THE SGA. IT'S

PRETTY COMPLETE AS FAR AS WHAT THE SERVICES ARE TO BE

RENDERED. THEY'RE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT SERVICES AND

THAT'S DEFINED IN THE SGA. AND OF COURSE IN YOUR

RATING CRITERIA THERE ARE OTHER DESCRIPTIONS OF

SERVICES THAT WOULD LEAD TO CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT.

BEYOND THAT WE CAN NOT OFFER ANY FURTHER GUIDANCE.

>> SECOND QUESTION FOR MISSOURI. REGARDING

THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE CHRONIC HOMELESS

PERSONS, CAN SUPPLEMENTAL DATA BE SUBMITTED IN

ADDITION TO THE TABLE AND THE CONTINUUM OF CARE?

>> YOU WANT TO GIVE ME A HINT OR A

SUGGESTION ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT BE?

>> SURE. HOMELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS, THE

ACUTE CARE PUBLIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, SUBSTANCE

ABUSE AGENCIES?

>> SURE. I MEAN, THIS IS NEW GROUND FOR

HUD, JUST AS IT IS FOR YOU.

WE REALIZE THAT WE RECENTLY RELEASED THE

DEFINITION ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT UNDERSTANDING

WITH THE LEVEL OF DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED.

BUT TRY TO BE AS EXPLICIT AS POSSIBLE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> NEW YORK.

>> CAN WE ASK SOME VERY, VERY, QUICK

QUESTIONS FOR Missouri?

>> YES.

>> IN THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARDS, IF

THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD AS AN AREA IS NOT

INTERESTED IN APPLYING, BUT SERVICES IN THE ONE STOPS

FOR THEM, ALTHOUGH WE MAY NOT TECHNICALLY BE THE

GRANT RECIPIENT, IF WE GET A LETTER OF EXTREME

SUPPORT FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION, ARE WE ALLOWED TO

APPLY FOR THAT?

>> AGAIN, THE ELIGIBILITY IS A LOCAL WORK

FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD AND THAT'S THE ANSWER.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> NEW YORK HAS A QUESTION.

>> WHAT WOULD BE DEFINED AS A FISCAL AGENT

UNDER THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD?

OR GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WOULD BE A

FISCAL AGENT?

>> I CAN THINK OF ONE OTHER GRANT WE HAVE

THAT OFFERS AN EXAMPLE. THE RICHMOND, VA LOCAL WORK

FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD ACTUALLY COMPETED THEIR FISCAL

RESPONSIBILITIES TO A CONTRACTOR, AND A MAINE

ENTITY APPLIED ON THEIR BEHALF. AND THAT MAINE ENTITY BECAME THEIR WIA

LEGITIMATE FISCAL AGENT. SO THERE ARE SOME

SITUATIONS WHERE LOCAL BOARDS MAY HAVE FISCAL AGENTS

LIKE THAT AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE SGA IS TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE TO

MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE LOCAL WORK FORCE INVESTMENT

BOARD THAT IS LEADING THE EFFORT.

>> WOULD YOU HAVE TO BE A PREEXISTING

FISCAL AGENT OR WOULD YOU TURN THAT AT THIS POINT?

>> PREEXISTING.

>> NEW YORK HAS ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING

THE SHELTER PLUS CARE. THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR

FUNDING WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT

SHELTER PLUS CARE SERVICES MATCH, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE FUNDS YET, SO THAT

WOULD NOT BE A MATCHED AMOUNT.

>> WOULD YOU -- OUR UNDERSTANDING OUT HERE

IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PARTNER

SERVICE RESOURCES FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES, ALONG WITH

THE HUD RESOURCES TO MAKE A PACKAGE OF SUPPORTIVE

HOUSING SERVICES AVAILABLE. WHILE I UNDERSTAND DOL

DOLLARS COULD NOT BE USED FOR THE FULL RANGE OF

SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, IT SEEMS A BIT AT ODDS WITH YOUR

CONCEPT, EVEN THOUGH THE DOLLARS AREN'T IN HAND,

OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE AWARDED CONCURRENTLY.

>> RIGHT. JOHN AS YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED

SOME WONDERFUL QUESTIONS FROM YOU RECENTLY. WE HAVE

DRAFTED RESPONSES TO THOSE, AND WE'LL BE SENDING

THEM OUT RELATIVELY SHORTLY, THEY'RE IN CLEARANCE IN

BOTH DEPARTMENTS.

AND THE ANSWER TO IT IS IN THERE. AND ONCE

WE HAVE ISSUED THIS, WE'LL MAKE IT AVAILABLE AS WELL

AS THE TRANSCRIPT FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE. WE DO

APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT ONCE THE AWARDS ARE MADE

THAT YOU WOULD HAVE DOL FUNDS. WE'RE CONSIDERING

THAT IN THE RESPONSE, LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY.

>> NEW YORK HAS ANOTHER QUESTION.

>> ONE MORE FROM NEW YORK.

>> ONE MORE YES, THE FIRST PART IS CAN THE

BOARD DESIGNATE A NON-PROFIT HAS THE FISCAL AGENT AND

CAN THE BOARD IN THAT ESSENCE IN THAT EFFORT SUPPORT

MORE THAN ONE APPLICATION?

>> IT HAS TO BE -- WE HAVE TO STICK WITH

THE SGA. AND IT TALKS ABOUT ELIGIBLE AS A LOCAL WORK

FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD AND THEIR FISCAL AGENT. AND

THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CURRENTLY IN PLACE AND NOT

CREATED FOR THIS COMPETITION.

>> ONE LAST QUESTION FROM NEW YORK. IF YOU

HAVE IT THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

>> REQUESTS, CAN YOU REVIEW AGAIN IN THE

SGA. IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING WHEN YOU NEED TO REPEAT

THESE BUYS, THE TH IS A DEADLINE, AND SOMETHING

ABOUT HAVING TO MAIL IT BY THE TH.

>> THE DEADLINE IS AUGUST TH, BUT THERE

ARE SOME -- THERE IS SOME INFORMATION IN THERE

WARNING YOU ABOUT MAIL DELAYS, AS YOU KNOW THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAIL IS RADIATED AT A DISTANT

LOCATION THAT CAUSES FURTHER DELAYS.

>> CASSANDRA DO YOU WANT TO ELABORATE.

>> THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY, IF YOU'RE

MAILING IT AND YOU'RE USING THE POSTAL SERVICE YOU MAY

WANT TO MAIL IT AHEAD OF TIME SINCE WE ARE HAVING

PROBLEMS GETTING OUR MAIL IN NOW. THERE ARE SOME

STATES THAT YOU SHOULD MAIL IT TWO DAYS PRIOR TWO OR

FIVE DAYS BEFORE.

YOU MAY WANT TO TRY ANOTHER SERVICE CARRIER

TO GET THOSE APPLICATIONS IN HERE ON TIME.

>> A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IF YOU ARE TO

MAIL IT OR FED EX IT, IS THAT APPROPRIATE?

>> YES.

>> BUT IF IT'S MARKED AUGUST TH FED EX,

YOU'VE DONE WHAT YOU'VE NEED TO DO?

>> WELL, NO. EVEN IF IT'S MARKED THE TH,

WE STILL HAVE TO RECEIVE IT ON THE TH. BECAUSE

ALSO IN THE SGA INDICATES "HAND DELIVERED," THAT'S

CONSIDERED A HAND DELIVERED PACKAGE, SO WE SHOULD

STILL HAVE IT IN OUR POSSESSION ON THE TH.

>> ONE AT A TIME.

>> WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU, PLEASE RESTATE IT?

>> IT SAYS IN THE SGA THAT HAND

DELIVERERS ARE DUE ON THE TH NOT THE TH. IF IT'S

MAILED, IT'S MAILED FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE TH. THAT

WOULD BE GOOD.

BUT IF YOU WERE HAND DELIVERING THAT, IT

HAD TO HAPPEN BY THE TH.

>> HOLD ON, WE'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER IN A

SECOND. WHAT PAGE ARE YOU LOOK AT PART ONE

DELIVERY OF APPLICATION PROPOSALS.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT

QUESTION, I THINK YOU'VE FOUND AN ERROR. IT SHOULD

BE AUGUST TH. WHERE IT SAYS AUGUST -- TH.

WE'LL HAVE TO AMEND THE SOLICITATION WITH THE CORRECT

DATE. SO KNOW THAT IT WILL BE AUGUST TH AND WE'LL

CORRECT IT, NOT AUGUST TH?

>> WHERE DOES IT SAY AUGUST TH?

>> ON PAGE -- UNDER PART ONE, DOWN TO THE

SECTION WHICH SAYS "HAND DELIVERED PROPOSAL" THE

SECOND SENTENCE, TO BE CONSIDERED FOR SENTENCE HAND

DELIVERED APPLICATIONS MUST BE RECEIVED BY : P.M.

ON AUGUST TH, IT SHOULD READ AUGUST TH.

>> YOU MADE SOME DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE

POSTAL SERVICE AND FED EX.

>> THERE IS A DISTINCTION -- IF YOU SEND IT

BY U.S. POSTAL SERVICE YOU HAVE TO MAIL IT BEFORE

FIVE CLOCK THE TH, BUT IF IT'S FED EX, OR UPS, THEN

YOU DON'T -- YOU DON'T HAVE -- YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY

THE TH OR YOU JUST HAVE DO MAIL IT AND HOPE IT GETS

THERE BY THE TH. IF YOU DO IT -- THERE IS A --

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN USING THE POSTAL SERVICE AND FED

EX, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AS IT'S WRITTEN.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT. YES.

>> I'M NOT SURE I HAVE CLARIFY. IF I

UNDERSTAND THE DISCUSSION, THE PROPOSALS MUST BE

RECEIVED IN YOUR HANDS AT DOL/HUD ON AUGUST TH,

IRRESPECTIVE OF THE MODE IN WHICH YOU SEND IT. THEY

HAVE TO BE RECEIVED IN YOUR HAND.

>> THAT'S NOT THE WAY I READ IT.

>> LOOK UNDER C, LATE APPLICATION --

>> IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THE DELIVERY OF

THE APPLICATIONS AND WHEN THEY'RE DUE IN THE OFFICE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE OVERNIGHT

MAILING, DOES THAT HAVE TO BE IRRADIATED TOO. DO YOU

HAVE TO GIVE MORE THAN OVERNIGHT?

>> NOT FOR FED EX.

>> NOT FOR FED EX JUST FOR THE U.S. POSTAL

SERVICE.

>> OKAY. LET'S GET BACK TO YOUR SEQUENCE.

WE HAD JUST FINISHED NEW YORK. THE NEXT STATE IS

NORTH DAKOTA. OHIO?

>> THIS IS THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

CAN THE APPLICANTS BE A STATE WIA BOARD IF IT'S

REPRESENTING A COLLABORATIVE OF SEVERAL LOCAL WIA

BOARDS.

>> IT SHOULD BE THE LOCAL WORK FORCE

INVESTMENT BOARDS. IF IT'S SEVERAL WORK FORCE

INVESTMENT BOARDS -- OKAY. WE WILL POST A BETTER

ANSWER FOR YOU WITH THE TRANSCRIPT. WE'RE NOT SURE

THE FULL ANSWER AND WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE

THAT'S NOT CORRECT OR COMPLETE.

>> OKAY. AND IF THAT FOLLOW UP WILL YOU

POST THE ANSWER, IF THE ANSWER IS YES, A STATE WIA

BOARD CAN BE THE APPLICANT, IF YOU COULD ALSO ANSWER

IN THAT FOLLOW UP IF THE INDIVIDUAL LOCALITIES HAVE

TO BE IDENTIFIED IN THE GRANTED, OR IF THEY CAN BE

IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING THE

GRANT?

>> THAT LATTER PART WE CAN TELL YOU. YOU

NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE WITHIN THE PROPOSAL. WE NEED

TO KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. ONLY BECAUSE OF

THE HUD CONNECTION IN COLLABORATION.

THAT ALL HAS TO BE DETAILED AND DEFINED AND

NOT SUBJECT TO FUTURE DECISIONS.

>> GREAT. WELL, THE INTENT WOULD BE TO

HAVE THE STATE HOUSING AGENCY APPLY FOR WHAT HUD

KNOWS AS THE BALANCE OF STATE APPLICATION THEN A

STATE WIA BOARD COULD APPLY. WE COULD STILL IDENTIFY

THE LOCALITIES.

>> WE'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER IN THE

TRANSCRIPT TO FOLLOW.

>> OHIO.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

HOW MANY DAYS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE D.C.

TRIP?

>> THAT ODEP OFFICE OF DISABILITY

EMPLOYMENT DRAINING POLICY CONFERENCE IS A THREE TO

FOUR DAY EVENT.

>> CAN YOU SAY MORE ABOUT THE ROLE OF ODEP?

HOW MUCH OF OUR STAFF TIME DO WE NEED TO

BUDGET TO COORDINATE WITH ODEP?

>> IN TERMS OF THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT,

OR IN TERMS OF THE POLICY CONFERENCE THAT'S AN ANNUAL

EVENT?

>> IN TERMS OF THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT,

IN TERMS OF RUNNING THE PROJECT.

>> OUR ROLE IS TO WORK WITH YOU IN THE

AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE SGA. IT'S A POINT

OF COMMUNICATION AND CONTACT. I'M NOT SURE I CAN

DEFINE FOR YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT WOULD

BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL.

>> OKLAHOMA. OKLAHOMA?

>> YES, IS THERE SOME EXPECTATION OF THE

SIZE OF THIS PROJECT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER TO BE

SERVED, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT HUD WANTS A DENSITY OF

LESS THAN ?

>> YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SUPPORTIVE

HOUSING PROGRAM. THE PERMANENT HOUSING COMPONENT HAS A

STATUTORY LIMITATION OF PERSONS IN A FACILITY.

THERE IS FLEXIBILITY IN THAT REQUIREMENT. WE

CERTAINLY HAVE HAD BUILDINGS THAT SERVE MORE PEOPLE.

THERE IS NO SPECIFIC INTENDED NUMBER OF PERSONS TO BE

SERVED.

WE REALIZE WITH THE COST OF HOUSING PER

YEAR IN A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SERVE

A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY

PREDISPOSITION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'LL BE ABLE

TO SERVE.

THE LEVEL OF FMR'S VARY SO DRAMATICALLY

FROM NEW YORK CITY TO WYOMING THAT THE NUMBER OF

PEOPLE SERVED IS GOING TO VARY A BIT AS WELL.

>> AND WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION IS

NECESSARY FOR THE NUMBER OF CHRONICALLY HOMELESS

PEOPLE? CAN YOU JUST GIVE A PERCENTAGE OR AN

ESTIMATE?

>> WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT A LITTLE BIT

EARLIER.

YOUR CONTINUUM OF CARE APPLICATION IF

YOU'RE WITHIN A CONTINUUM OF CARE AND I PRESUME YOU

ARE, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO HUD BY JULY , CONTAINS

THAT FIGURE. THAT WOULD BE SOME GOOD DOCUMENTATION

TO INCLUDE. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT,

FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DON'T HAVE

STRICT DESCRIPTIONS OF EVIDENCE REQUIRED. SO JUST

GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT IN TERMS OF INFORMATION YOU

HAVE AVAILABLE. MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE A HOMELESS

MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM THAT THEY CAN GET

PROXIES FOR CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS ON. IF YOU DON'T

YET HAVE A HMIS THEN JUST USE WHAT YOU DO HAVE.

>> OREGON?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, TECHNICAL FOLLOW UP

QUESTION ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE COLLABORATIVE

AGREEMENT.

ABOUT THE PAGES, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE

SURE THE PART IN THE SGA IT THAT TALKS ABOUT SECTION

COLLABORATION. THAT'S THE PART THAT'S SUBJECT TO

THE PAGE LIMIT?

>> CORRECT.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, JOE.

>> PENNSYLVANIA?

>> WE HAVE A QUESTION. CLARIFICATION, IF

WE WERE TO -- THIS IS A TWO PART QUESTION. IF WE

WERE TO PROPOSE TO SERVE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS

SINGLE INDIVIDUALS CAN WE DO NEW UNITS AND

EXISTING UNITS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR CONTINUUM.

IF THAT IS THE CASE, ARE WE ABLE TO PROPOSE UNDER THE

HUD PORTION, A PROPOSAL THAT'S LESS MONEY THAN THE

TO MILLION DOLLARS?

>> LET ME RESTATE WHAT I THINK YOU STATED

TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT. YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT

HALF THE PEOPLE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SERVE WITH

EMPLOYMENT ARE ALREADY IN HOUSING?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE DO HAVE

PERMANENT UNITS CURRENTLY AND SAFE HAVEN UNITS.

>> THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS LIMITED TO

SERVING ONLY CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE.

BY DEFINITION, THAT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE

CURRENTLY LIVING ON THE STREETS OR IN EMERGENCY

SHELTERS.

>> SAFE HAVEN IS ALSO FOR THE CHRONICALLY

HOMELESS.

>> SAFE HAVEN IS NOT EMERGENCY SHELTER,

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT LIVING ON THE STREET. PERSONS

LIVING IN SAFE HAVENS SHOULD NOT BE SERVED BY THIS

INITIATIVE.

>> YOU HAVE TO SERVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING

ON THE STREETS OR IN EMERGENCY SHELTERS.

>> PENNSYLVANIA, WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT MATCH REQUIREMENTS.

>> RHODE ISLAND?

>> YES, IF A STATE OR LOCALITY HAS ALREADY

RECEIVED A CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT GRANT, IS IT

PRECLUDED FROM APPLYING UNDER THIS SOLICITATION? WE

KNOW IT'S -- THE TARGET POPULATION IS DIFFERENT?

>> NO, IT DOES -- IT DOES NOT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TENNESSEE?

>> YES,

>> PENNSYLVANIA, CAN WE HAVE A FOLLOW UP

QUESTION.

>> I'M ALMOST THROUGH THE RUN DOWN AND

WE'LL COME BACK TO EVERYBODY.

>> TENNESSEE?

>> YES, ONE QUESTION FROM KNOCKSVILLE. ARE

INDIVIDUALS PARTICIPATING RECEIVING SERVICES IN THE

PROGRAM, DOES THE ONE STRIKE RULE FOR PUBLIC HOUSING

RECIPIENTS APPLY TO THEM?

>> WE -- I DO NOT BELIEVE SO, BUT THAT'S

NOT THE ANSWER YOU NEED TO HEAR. SO WE WILL GET BACK

TO YOU ON THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT DOES APPLY. WE

KNOW THAT HALF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE HAVE BEEN

INCARCERATED.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM NASHVILLE. WHERE

IT SAYS TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTATION AT THE LOCALITY

INCLUDES AT LEAST PERSONS WHO ARE CURRENTLY

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, -- DID NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER,

DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY JUST THROW YOU OUT BECAUSE IT

WOULD BE CONFLICTING INFORMATION?

>> YES, IT DOES.

>> SO YOUR CONTINUUM CARE HAS TO SAY ?

>> WELL, IT'S NOT YOUR CONTINUUM CARE. THE

LOCALITY IN WHICH YOU ARE SERVING PEOPLE HAS TO HAVE

AT LEAST . IF YOU’RE PROPOSING TO -- YES YOUR

CONTINUUM CHART WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT. IN MANY

INSTANCES -- LET ME GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF LOS ANGELES,

WHERE THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND OTHER SOME ODD

CITIES ARE ALL IN ONE CONTINUUM OF CARE. THEY'LL

HAVE A CHRONICALLY HOMELESS NUMBERS, BUT IF ONE

PARTICULAR PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO SERVE IT, JUST IN

THEIR LITTLE LOCALE, THEY CAN'T USE THE CONTINUUM OF

CARE FIGURE; THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO SERVE THAT

LARGER GEOGRAPHIC AREA. SO AS THE SGA STATES IT,

THERE MUST BE AT LEAST CHRONICALLY HOMELESS

PERSONS IN THE LOCALITY IN WHICH YOU WILL BE SERVING

PEOPLE.

>> THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION, THERE IS

INFORMATION AVAILABLE, SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION

DEMONSTRATING THAT THE NUMBER IS LARGER THAN THE

NUMBER IDENTIFIED IN THE CONTINUUM CARE, IS THAT

SUFFICIENT OR WILL YOU BE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED?

>> IF YOUR CONTINUUM OF CARE, WHICH

INCLUDES REPRESENTATION FROM THE ENTIRE NON-PROFIT

COMMUNITY, FOUNDATIONS, THE CITY, THE COUNTY, ALL

HAVE AGREED ON A NUMBER, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME

OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THEY WERE

WRONG.

>> WHERE DOES THE NUMBER COME FROM?

>> WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A FIGURE THAT WAS

HIGH ENOUGH, GIVEN THAT WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT FOUR

GRANTS TO AWARD THAT WE WOULD MAKE A DENT IN

HOMELESSNESS WITH THESE FOUR GRANTS.

>> ONE LAST QUESTION FROM TENNESSEE?

>> QUICKLY. THANK YOU.

>> SURE, IT'S ABOUT OUTCOMES, -- JUST IN

TERMS OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE SPEAKING ABOUT, IN TERMS OF

THE GRANTS, THIS IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. ARE YOU

LOOKING AT A PLACE WHERE FOR EXAMPLE, IN NASHVILLE

ON, IT WOULD BE REALLY A BRAND NEW COLLABORATIVE AND

AN INNOVATIVE THING FOR THE EMPLOYMENT. THE LOCAL

WORK FORCE GROUP TO BE TAKING ON THIS KIND OF A

PROJECT, AND IN ONE YEAR OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS, ARE YOU

LOOKING AT START UPS AND BUILDING TO GREATER OUTCOMES

FOR FUTURE, OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FUNDING A PROJECT

THAT'S UP AND RUNNING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE THINGS

HAPPENING?

WE'RE REALLY INTO STARTING SOMETHING NEW.

>> SORRY FOR THE DELAY, ONE OF THE

OBJECTIVES OF THIS COMPETITION IS TO DEVELOP NEW

MODELS AND NEW EXAMPLES. SO YOU'RE INSTINCTS ARE

CORRECT, WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO

DEMONSTRATE NEW RELATIONSHIPS, BRINGING TOGETHER

THESE TWO UNIVERSES IN NEW AND INNOVATIVE WAYS THAT

SERVE THE POPULATION WITH CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. SO

WE'RE -- THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT SPOKEN TO IN THE

GRANT APPLICATION AND ONE WHICH WILL BE EVALUATED.

>> SO, IF I COULD ASK ONE MORE REALLY QUICK

FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT.

ABOUT THE OUTCOMES, WE'RE GOING TO BE

NEEDING TO DO CONSISTENT BUILDING TO MAINTAIN A

REALLY GOOD STRONG MODEL OVER THE LONG TERM OF THE

PROJECT. CAN WE INCLUDE THOSE SOFTER OUTCOMES FOR

THE FIRST YEAR AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE PLACED IN THE

CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL?

>> ON THE EMPLOYMENT SIDE, YOU PROBABLY

NOTICE THAT THERE WERE NO TARGET NUMBERS, IT'S IN

RECOGNITION OF THAT REALITY. THIS REALLY ISN'T A

NUMBERS GRANT SO MUCH AS A SYSTEM CHANGE GRANT. KEEP

THAT IN MIND AS YOU READ THE SGA.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT KIND OF A

GRANT OPPORTUNITY.

>> TEXAS. WERE WE AT TEXAS?

AND THE LAST STATE, THE FIRST GO ROUND IS

VIRGINIA.

>> WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM VIRGINIA. THE

NUMBERS ON THIS SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT YOU'RE REALLY

LOOKING AT FOR VERY, VERY, LARGE PROJECT. EVEN

LOOKING AT MORE THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH AND

IS THE MOST YOU CAN HAVE AT ONE FACILITY. THAT'S

ONLY A MILLION AND A HALF ON HUD SIDE AND WOULDN'T

EARN BE AS MUCH AS YOU'RE PROPOSING TO PUT FORWARD IN

A GRANT, AND, , IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF

MONEY ON THE LABOR SIDE AS WELL.

YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR -- IT SEEMS LIKE

IT'S REALLY TARGETED TOWARDS THE VERY LARGER AREAS

THAT REALLY ALREADY HAVE THINGS IN PLACE THAT THEY

CAN FUND WITH THE FUNDS. IT'S NOT TARGETED TOWARDS

PLACES THAT MAYBE HAVE TO CHRONICALLY

HOMELESS PEOPLE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO UNDERTAKE

THAT SIZE OF A PROJECT, IS THAT A CORRECT ASSESSMENT.

>> I DON'T THINK WE QUIET THOUGHT OF IT

THAT WAY, IN THE HISTORY OF WORKING ON HOMELESSNESS,

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ONLY FOCUSED ON CHRONIC

HOMELESSNESS IN TWO INITIATIVES, THIS IS THE SECOND

OF THOSE.

BOTH HAVE BEEN VERY MODEST IN TERMS OF THE

SIZE.

SO WE REALLY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE SERVING

PLACES THAT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CHRONIC HOMELESS

POPULATION. AND THUS, THE NUMBER . SO WE COULD

TARGET AREAS THAT HAVE A CONCENTRATION IN CHRONIC

HOMELESSNESS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MINNESOTA.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY THE FUNDING AMOUNTS, TWO

TO THREE MILLION IS OVER THE ENTIRE TERM OF THE GRANT

AWARD. IF IT WAS SHELTER PLUS CARE, THAT WOULD BE

TWO TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS FOR FIVE YEARS, NOT TWO

TO THREE MILLION PER YEAR FOR EACH OF THE FIVE YEARS.

>> SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, THIS IS

CALIFORNIA, IS THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT

ARE NOT COVERED IN HERE, BUT THAT YOU'RE ASSUMING WE

WILL NEED TO PROVIDE THAT ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, MENTAL

HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT AND PRIMARY

HEALTHCARE, , ISN'T A LOT TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> YES, AND WE REALIZE THAT THERE MAY BE

COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE

TO APPLY GIVEN THE CHALLENGE OF JUST THAT, OF

IDENTIFYING RESOURCES TO PROVIDE FOR HEALTHCARE, MENTAL

HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, WE REALIZE THAT.

WE'VE CERTAINLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SHELTER PLUS CARE.

WE DON'T PROVIDE ANY SERVICES. WE GET FAR MORE

APPLICATIONS FOR SHELTER PLUS CARE THAN WE'RE ABLE TO

FUND.

SO WE'RE FAIRLY POSITIVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE

TO FIND COMMUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE

INITIATIVE.

>> ALSO, THIS PROPOSAL OR THESE COOPERATIVE

AGREEMENTS ARE DESIGNED TO LEVERAGE AND COORDINATE

RESOURCES, NOT TO DEVELOP A BUDGET TO SUPPLY THEM.

SO THE MONIES ARE THERE FOR STRATEGIC

PLANNING FOR COORDINATION, TO FILL IN THE BLANKS THAT

ARE REQUIRED TO BE FILLED IN TO BRING OTHER RESOURCE

TO BEAR. SO IT'S MORE OF A SYSTEMS CHANGE APPROACH

THAN A DIRECT SERVICE APPROACH. ALTHOUGH DIRECT

SERVICE HAPPENS AS A NATURAL OUTCOME.

>> QUESTION?

>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO OUR ORDER

AND REPEAT THE STATES, ALASKA?

>> I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. ARIZONA?

>> NO QUESTIONS.

>> CALIFORNIA?

>> YES. YES. SAN JOSE. JUST TO CLARIFY

ON THE PAGES AND WHAT'S INCLUDED AND WHAT'S NOT, I

JUST WANT TODAY CLARIFY, THE HUD NARRATIVE AND

APPLICATION AND ALL THOSE CERTIFICATIONS, THOSE ARE

NOT INCLUDED IN THE PAGES, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> SO THEN THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT,

COMMITMENT AND COOPERATION THAT SEEM TO BE USED

INTERCHANGEABLY THROUGH OUT THE SGA, THOSE ARE ALSO

NOT INCLUDED IN THE ?

>> THAT'S CORRECT AGAIN.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> CALIFORNIA?

>> I HAD A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO

CONTINUATION OF THE MATCHING. AND ALSO FOR THE

MATCHING PART. IT'S % OVER THE THREE YEARS OR THE

FIVE YEARS IN?

>> WELL IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE PROGRAM THAT

YOU'RE APPLYING FOR.

>> IN THE SHELTER PLUS CARE PROGRAM IT'S A

DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH OVER FIVE YEARS. IT CAN BE

CASH OR IT CAN BE IN KIND. FOR THE SUPPORTIVE

HOUSING PROGRAM, IT'S A THREE YEAR GRANT TERM. AND

IT DEPENDS ON THE ACTIVITY THAT YOU'RE APPLYING FOR.

AND THE SGA BEGINNING ON PAGE WILL WALK YOU

THROUGH THE DETAILS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT MATCH

REQUIREMENTS BY LAW FOR ACQUISITION, REHAB, OPERATING

COSTS, LEASING, ET CETERA. BUT IT'S CLEARLY LAID OUT

THERE.

>> WHOEVER IS ASKING THE QUESTION, YOU'RE

CUTTING UP, WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND YOU.

>> IS IT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE $,?

>> WHAT $,?

>> FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT. IS

THE MATCHING REGARD TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT,

OR IS IT JUST FOR THE HUD PORTION?

>> THE MATCH ONLY RELATES TO THE HUD GRANT.

>> OKAY, THAT'S PART OF THE GRANT. IS THAT

A SEPARATE PAGES IN ADDITION TO THE DOL?

>> HUD DOESN'T HAVE A PAGE LIMITATION.

>> BUT IT IS A SEPARATE APPLICATION AND

PROPOSAL FROM THE EMPLOYMENT PROPOSAL WHICH IS

PAGES AND THE COLLABORATION PROPOSAL WHICH IS

PAGES?

>> RIGHT, I UNDERSTOOD THAT, THANK YOU.

>> ANY ONE ELSE FROM THE BIG STATE OF

CALIFORNIA? ARE TENANT CONTRIBUTIONS AN

>> APPROPRIATE SOURCE OF MATCH FOR SPC?

>> THEY ARE. THOUGH IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE,

WHEN YOU'LL ONLY BE SERVING PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS AND OTHER

PERSONS LIVING IN EMERGENCY SHELTER THAT YOU'RE GOING

TO GENERATE A LOT OF RENTAL INCOME FROM THEM.

SO I WOULDN'T CERTAINLY BE COUNTING ON A

WHOLE LOT ON THEY'RE INCOME TO PROVIDE ALL THE

SERVICES THAT THEY'LL NEED.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA. THE

LETTER FROM THE GOVERNOR REGARDING OLMSTEAD, IS THAT

A REQUIREMENT FROM THE GOVERNOR THAT HE DESIGNATED

SIGNATORY FOR THE STATE.

>> IT'S THE GOVERNOR OR HIS OR HER

DESIGNEE. IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THE

GOVERNOR HAS APPOINTED TO TAKE THE LEAD IN THAT STATE

ON THE ISSUE.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THREE SEPARATE

APPLICATIONS, DOES THAT MEAN YOU WANT THEM SUBMITTED

AS THREE SEPARATE DOCUMENTS, NOT WITH THE SAME

HEADER/FOOTER?

>> THE IMPORTANT ELEMENT IS THAT WE'RE

CLEAR ON WHICH PROPOSAL WE'RE READING. IF IT'S THE

ONE FOR THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT DOL FUNDS IT SHOULD

BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED AS SUCH AND READ AS SUCH. AND

THE NEXT CHAPTER MAY BE COLLABORATION, AND THE THIRD

CHAPTER WOULD BE YOUR HUD PROPOSAL.

>> REFERRING TO PAGE , IN THE FIRST

COLUMN WHERE IT SAYS "IDENTIFY HOW THE DOL FUND HUD

FUNDS ARE proportionate TO EACH OTHER AND HOW THE

PROPOSED PROJECT IS COST EFFECTIVE." I UNDERSTAND THE

NEED FOR DEMONSTRATING COST EFFECTIVENESS, BUT CAN

YOU EXPLAIN HOW IT WOULD BE PROPORTIONATE TO EACH

OTHER.

>> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A BALANCE

BETWEEN BOTH EFFORTS, THE HOUSING PORTION AND THE

CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PORTION. AND I CAN'T GIVE YOU

ANY SPECIFIC NUMBERS. WE DIDN'T STATE ANY SPECIFIC

NUMBERS. BUT THERE SHOULD BE A PROPORTIONALITY

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO THAT YOU DESCRIBE AND

MAKE SENSE WITH NO SPECIFIC NUMBERS IN MIND.

BACK TO THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THREE

DISTINCT PROPOSALS. PLUS BE SURE THAT WHEN YOU START

THE NEXT CHAPTER OR SECTION YOU GO TO A NEW PAGE

HEADER, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE SEPARATED AND GIVEN TO

DIFFERENT PANELS TO REVIEW. SO THEY NEED TO BE

COMPARTMENTALIZED SO THAT'S EASY TO ACCOMPLISH.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM CALIFORNIA?

>> ANOTHER QUESTION. CAN HOUSING

COORDINATORS OR HOUSING ADVOCATES BE CONSIDERED IN

THE APPLICATION IF THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE

LANDLORDS?

>> SORRY, WE WERE CONFERRING. THE -- THE

RULING THAT WE'VE USED IN PAST COMPETITIONS AND THAT

WE WILL BE APPLYING HERE IS IF THAT ACTIVITY IS

INTEGRAL TO OPERATING THE HOUSING, IF WITHOUT IT YOU

ARE NOT ABLE TO OPERATE THE HOUSING, THEN IT IS A ELIGIBLE

OPERATING COST.

IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE DEFINITION OF

OPERATING COST ON THE BUDGETS, IT GIVES SOME EXAMPLES

ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT IT'S -- IT'S SPECIFIC

ACTIVITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO OPERATE THE

HOUSING.

>> ONE OTHER QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA.

>> OKAY, -- DOL MONEY EVEN IF IT COMES

THROUGH THE STATE ELIGIBLE FOR MATCH?

>> WELL, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE

SUBMITTED BY AN ORGANIZATION IN NEW YORK THAT

SPECIFICALLY ASK THAT QUESTION. THE ANSWER HAS BEEN

DRAFTED AND IS IN FINAL CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE TWO

DEPARTMENTS AND THAT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE WITH THE

TRANSCRIPT ON THE WEBSITES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO COLORADO. ANY

QUESTIONS FROM COLORADO ON THE SECOND GO AROUND?

>> JUST ONE REALLY QUICK ONE. THERE'S

SOMETHING INTERESTING A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE, IT

TALKS ABOUT SERVING CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PERSONS WHO

INDICATE A WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT THE EMPLOYMENT

DESIGN. DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN TERMINATE HOUSING

ASSISTANCE TO RESIDENTS WHO BECOME NON-COMPLAINT WITH

THE SUPPORT?

>> NO. IN THAT PORTION OF THE SGA IT

SUGGESTS THERE SHOULD BE AN INTENTION THAT THOSE

PERSONS PARTICIPATE, BUT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT

YES, AT THIS POINT YOU MUST PARTICIPATE.

>> SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY INDICATE

THEY'RE WILLING TO COMPLY YOU PUT THEM IN THE HOUSING

AND THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE ANYMORE, WE

STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE SHELTER PLUS CARE

ASSISTANCE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NON-COMPLAINT WITH THE

PROGRAM?

>> IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE SAFE HAVEN

APPROACH OF LOW DEMAND.

>> OKAY.

>> CONNECTICUT?

>> YES, WE HAVE A QUESTION.

>> IN TERMS OF THE HUD APPLICATION, JUST TO

CLARIFY, CAN MORE THAN ONE CONTINUUM APPLY IN ORDER

TO APPLY THEMSELVES WITH THE SERVICE DELIVERY AREA OF

THE WORK FORCE BOARDS?

>> WELL, CONTINUUMS DON'T APPLY. THIS MUST

BE AN ELIGIBLE APPLICANT BY LAW, SUCH AS A INDIVIDUAL

NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. IF THAT ORGANIZATION SUCH

AS A NON-PROFIT INTENDS TO APPLY ON BEHALF OF AN AREA

COVERING MORE THAN ONE CONTINUUM THEY CAN DO THAT.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT'S HIGHLY UNUSUAL.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE. WELL, A

COUPLE ACTUALLY FROM CONNECTICUT. ON PAGE , YOU

SAY, "APPLICANTS MAY NOT UTILIZE CERTIFICATES

AUTHORIZED UNDER SECTION C OF THE FAIR LABOR

STANDARDS ACT IN THEIR IMPLEMENTATION AND MUST

UTILIZE ONLY INDIVIDUAL DETERMINED -- ". COULD YOU

PLEASE CLARIFY WHAT THOSE CERTIFICATES ARE THAT THEY

WE ARE NOT USING?

>> THOSE ARE SUB MINIMUM WAGE OR SPECIAL

MINIMUM WAGE CERTIFICATES ALLOWING PAYING BELOW THE

PREVAILING MINIMUM WAGE.

>> THANK YOU, WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION

HERE.

WE WANTED TO KNOW, PARDON ME, CAN WE MATCH

FEDERAL FUNDS WITH FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THE REQUIRED

FEDERAL FUND MATCH.

>> THE STATUTE FOR BOTH THE SUPPORTIVE

HOUSING PROGRAM AND THE -- THAT IT MUST COME FROM

SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE SUBTITLE THAT CREATED THAT

PROGRAM.

SO YES, FOR EITHER SHELTER PLUS CARE OR SHP

MATCHING SOURCES CAN BE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM

OTHER PROGRAMS.

>> THANK YOU. VERY MUCH.

>> LET ME JUST CAUTION AS LONG AS THE OTHER

PROGRAM DOESN'T PROHIBIT THAT BY LAW, OF COURSE. BUT

HUD ALLOWS THAT. AND WE REGULARLY GET THOSE SOURCES

OF MATCH FROM OTHER FEDERAL PROGRAMS.

>> WE HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION. I'D LIKE TO

GO BACK TO THE QUESTION OF THE CONTINUUMS IN

CONNECTICUT APPLYING IN ORDER TO ALIGN THEMSELVES

WITH THE SERVICE DELIVERY AREA WORK FORCE BOARDS,

WE'RE BLANK ON HAVING SEPARATE CONTINUUMS APPLY.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWABLE IN THIS

COMPETITION?

>> IT'S THREE SEPARATE HOUSING PROVIDERS

UNDER ONE WIS, THE WIS THAT COVERS MULTIPLE

CONTINUUMS OF CARE OF LOCALITIES --

>> WOULD THIS BE A SINGLE APPLICANT

COVERING THREE CONTINUUMS OF CARE UNDER ONE WORK

FORCE BOARD.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHICH BOARD -- THE

CONTINUUM IN THOSE THREE URBAN AREAS.

>> AND FOR THE HUD PORTION YOU WOULD BE

SUBMITTED A SINGLE ?

>> IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, WE WOULD --

>> YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A LEAD APPLICANT

APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS AND THEY WOULD HAVE SPONSORS

FROM THE OTHER AREAS.

>> YES,

>> OKAY, THAT WORKS.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.

>> D.C.?

FLORIDA?

>> YES, WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. IS IT

POSSIBLE TO USE THE PROJECT THAT WAS AWARDED IN

BUT IS NOT UP AND RUNNING YET, THE HUD PROJECT TO GO

WITH THE DOL PROJECT?

>> NO. THIS INITIATIVE IS TO LINK THIS

MONEY FROM HUD WITH THE CORRESPONDING MONEY FROM THE

DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. YOU MADE THAT EARLIER APPLICATION ON THE CONDITION

THAT YOU PROVIDED RESOURCES FROM IDENTIFIED SOURCES,

SO YOU ALREADY HAVE FUNDING TO DO THAT.

>> RIGHT, BUT I'M THINKING OF THE MATCH AT

DOL PROJECTS FOR THE DOL?

>> YOU ALREADY COMMITTED TO MATCH IN THE

APPLICATION THAT WE FUNDED YOU FOR.

>> WE HAVE MATCHED. BUT THAT PROJECT

DOESN'T NEED THE MATCH. BUT TO GO WITH THE DOL

PROJECT --

>> THERE'S NO DOL MATCH REQUIREMENT. IN

THE DOL PROPOSAL FOR CUSTOMIZED REQUIREMENT WE DON'T

REQUIRE A MATCH.

>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE A HUD PROJECT THAT

ALREADY HAS BEEN AWARDED ON AN OPERATION TO TIE IN

WITH THE DOL --

>> SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULDN'T BE

APPLYING FOR THE HUD FUNDS IN THE SGA?

>> THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

>> NO, THE SGA IS CLEAR ON THIS, THAT

THE DOL FUNDS AND THE HUD FUNDS IN THIS SGA MUST BE

INTEGRATED AND THE AWARD BE BASED ON HAVING

SUBMISSION TO BOTH PARTS.

>> OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WE HAD

THREE PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS IN OUR CONTINUUM

CARE. ONLY ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE RANKED NUMBER ONE

IS IT POSSIBLE TO PULL ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS OUT OF

THE OPEN THAT WAS JUST SUBMITTED JULY TH ON A

PROJECT?

>> YES. YOU WOULD WITHDRAW AN APPLICATION

FROM THE CONTINUUM OF CARE APPLICATION SUBMITTED ON

JULY , AND -- SUBMIT IT HERE. AND IT OF COURSE HAS

TO FIT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SGA AND THAT IT

ONLY SERVES CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. HAWAII?

>> YES. REALLY QUICK, WHERE IS THE

INFORMATION FROM THE PREVIOUS DEMONSTRATIONS ON

CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT?

THEY ARE REFERRED TO ON THE WEBSITE BUT I

COULDN'T FIND THEM.

>> OKAY. IN THE TRANSCRIPT I'LL GIVE MORE

PRECISE INFORMATION, WE DO HAVE CUSTOMIZED

EMPLOYMENT GRANT PROGRAMS ALREADY IN OPERATION AND

I'LL INCLUDE A LISTING OF THEM AND IDENTIFYING

INFORMATION.

>> OKAY, REAL QUICK, WE'RE NOT THE CITY, WE

WOULD APPLY, BUT WE WOULD WANT THE SHELTER PLUS CARE,

SO THAT -- THE CITY JUST LIKE IN OUR CONTINUUM GRANT

IS TYPICALLY THE APPLICANT, BUT THEN AN ORGANIZATION

LIKE OURSELVES IS A SUB RECIPIENT. I ASSUME THAT'S

FINE TOO FOR THE HUD PART ?

>> YES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ILLINOIS?

>> THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG EMPHASIS. I

MEAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE VA ARE YOU GOING TO BE

CONSIDERED THE VETERAN POPULATION?

>> THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE EXCLUSIVELY

SERVING HOMELESS VETERANS, NO.

WE CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE A LARGE POPULATION,

GIVEN THEIR INCIDENTS IN THE POPULATION, BUT IT'S NOT

ONLY FOR VETERANS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ILLINOIS?

>> ILLINOIS, GO AHEAD?

>> WE'RE DOING SHELTER PLUS CARE. THE DOL,

MONEY CAN IT BE USED FOR THE SERVICE MATCH OR NO?

>> THAT IS A QUESTION THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THIS FORTHCOMING

Q&A THAT WAS SENT FROM A GENTLEMEN FROM NEW YORK.

WE WILL INCLUDE IT WITH THE TRANSCRIPTS AS

SOON AS IT'S READY.

>> ILLINOIS?

INDIANA?

>> LOUISIANA, MAINE, MARYLAND,

MASSACHUSETTS?

>> YES, SIR.

REGARDING THE HUD PORTION, I'M WORKING ON

THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE FUNDS

TO PAY FOR RENT FOR UNITS THAT WE OWN, THAT THE

APPLICANT OWNS?

>> RIGHT. THIS IS THE SAME SET OF RULES

THAT WE USE IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE

>> THANK YOU.

>> MICHIGAN?

>> YES, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> NOW, I'M ASKING FROM THE DOL SIDE.

YOU'RE AWARDING ONE YEAR OF DOL FUNDING, THREE YEARS

OF HUD FUNDS. IS IT REASONABLE TO THINK THAT A

INDIVIDUAL WOULD NEED THREE YEARS OF SUBSIDIZED

HOUSING? WOULD THOSE INDIVIDUALS EVEN IF THEY WERE

SUCCESSFUL WOULD NEED THAT, EMPLOYMENT WOULD NEED

THAT, AND IF IT'S JUST A ONE YEAR OF FUNDING ON THE

DOL SIDE, DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT LOCALLY AVAILABLE

RESOURCES WOULD CONTINUE TO SUPPORT WHILE THEY

CONTINUE TO BE IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING FOR THE THREE

YEARS? WHAT IS YOUR THINKING ON THAT BLEND OF UNEVEN

TIMELINE OF THE FUNDING?

>> THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TIMELINE OF

FUNDING IS ESSENTIALLY STATUTORY. THE SHELTER PLUS

CARE PROGRAM BY LAW MUST PROVIDES FIVE YEARS WORTH OF

ASSISTANCE. THIS IS PERMEANT HOUSING, THIS IS NOT

TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE.

AND FOR THIS POPULATION, PEOPLE LIVING ON

THE STREETS, PEOPLE WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS WITH A

SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEM TYPICALLY ARE GOING TO NEED

HOUSING TYPICALLY FOR A VERY LONG TIME. IT MAY BE

FIVE OR TEN YEARS. SO IT WOULD NOT BE OUT OF THE

ORDINARY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE ASSISTED THROUGH THIS

PROGRAM FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS.

>> A WITH REGARD TO THE DOL AWARD, IT'S

SUBJECT TO RENEWAL ANNUALLY BASED ON FUNDING

AVAILABLE AND PERFORMANCE. IN THE TH YEAR THOUGH,

FUNDING WOULD GO DOWN % AND IN THE TH YEAR, %,

AND THAT'S TO ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABILITY FOR THAT SIDE

OF THE PROJECT.

>> MAY I ASK A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. IN A

COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACES YOU HAVE A TERM

"INTEGRATED SETTING," WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

>> INTEGRATED, WE MEAN NOT SEGREGATED.

WE MEAN IN REGULAR EMPLOYMENT SETTINGS WITH

CO-WORKERS OR IN SITUATIONS THAT ARE IN THE

COMMUNITY. NON-STEREOTYPIC, WITH SOME POPULATIONS,

PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND PERSONS WHO ARE

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS OR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES,

THERE'S A CHANNELING WITH CERTAIN DISABILITIES TO

PLACE THEM IN NON-STEREOTYPIC EMPLOYMENT SERVICES,

NOT ON PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS OR ATTITUDES.

>> OFF UNDER SECTION OF THE PROJECT

FINANCIAL PLANS FOR THE DOL, YOU HAVE THE THREE PARTS

THAT ARE SPECIFIED AND THEN OVER IN THE NEXT COLUMN

YOU MENTIONED THE DOL BUDGET MUST INCLUDE A SEPARATE

BUDGET OF DETAILED COST ANALYSIS. COULD YOU

DISTINGUISH THAT FROM THE BUDGET NARRATIVE AND

JUSTIFICATION?

>> IT'S THE SAME THING.

>> SAME THING?

>> YES.

>> OKAY, WHERE WERE WE. WE WERE IN

MICHIGAN? MINNESOTA?

>> YES, MINNESOTA.

>> YES. MY NAME IS -- FROM MINNESOTA, I

WAS JUST WONDERING, I READ OVER HERE, CAN YOU TELL ME

HOW YOU DEFINE -- I JUST WONDERED FOR SOME OF THEM

WHO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS AND OTHER STUFF, DO SOMEBODY

WITH NEEDING -- TO DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF THEIR

INCOME (INAUDIBLE).

>> HELLO, I'M SORRY. JUST PROCESSING THE

QUESTION. IT REALLY DEPENDS IN LARGE PART ON THE

PROVIDER, SOME WILL USE PSYCHIATRISTS, SOME

PSYCHOLOGISTS, SOME WOULD EVEN USE VERY EXPERIENCED

CASEWORKERS. SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC RULE SET BY HUD

IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION IS THAT -- CAN WE

READILY RECRUIT FROM EXISTING SHELTERS THAT HAS DONE

THIS CASE MANAGEMENT OR, YOU KNOW THAT HAS --

(INAUDIBLE).

>> AS LONG AS IT'S AN EMERGENCY HOMELESS

SHELTER, OR YOU'RE SERVING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS FOR

THE LENGTHS OF TIMES SPECIFIED IN THE SGA, THAT WOULD

BE JUST FINE, IF THEY'VE MADE THOSE DETERMINATIONS AT

THE HOMELESS SHELTER.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> MISSISSIPPI?

>> MISSOURI?

>> HAS TO DO WITH THE GENTLEMEN FROM

MINNESOTA'S LAST QUESTION. WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD

YOU SAY RELATIVE TO HUD NOT REQUIRING THAT A

PROFESSIONAL DOCUMENT A PERSON'S LEVEL WITH -- YOU

ARE NOT SAYING SELF-IDENTIFICATION CAN NOT BE

UTILIZED IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND SOME PAST MENTAL

ILLNESS. YOU WANT CURRENT INFORMATION IS THAT

CORRECT?

>> IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING IN THE RECENT

PAST, IF IT'S A DIAGNOSES MADE IN A EMERGENCY

SHELTER A MONTH OR TWO AGO.

TO BE HONEST, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW IF

YOU'VE WORKED WITH HUD, WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC

STANDARDS ON MENTAL HEALTH DISABILITY DETERMINATIONS.

WE'VE BEEN FLEXIBLE WITH PROVIDERS ON THAT. IF

A RECENT DETERMINATION HAS BEEN MADE AT A SHELTER FOR

INSTANCE AND THEY'VE USED A REASONABLY EXPERIENCED

PERSON THEN THAT CAN BE USED.

>> NEW YORK?

>> ARE THERE ANY MORE EXPENSES THAT WOULD

BE COVERED BY THE DOL?

>> DID YOU SAY -- IF A LOCAL WIB

DESIGNATES --

>> DESIGNATES A LOCAL NON-PROFITS AS A

FISCAL AGENT.

>> I WAS GOING TO REPEAT THAT. YOU CAN'T

DO THIS.

>> THIS HAS TO BE A LOCAL WORK FORCE

INVESTMENT BOARD THAT TAKES ON THIS PROJECT. THEY

MAY HAVE SUBCONTRACTS AND WORK WITH OTHER COMMUNITY

ORGANIZATIONS, IN FACT THAT'S ENCOURAGED, CUSTOMIZED

EMPLOYMENT SUPPORTS. BUT THE LEADERSHIP AND THE

FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ARE THE LOCAL WORK FORCE

INVESTMENT BOARDS, SOLELY.

>> THE SGA, IT CAN BE THE LWIB OR THE

PROGRAM THE WIA COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT RECIPIENTS or

FISCAL AGENT FOR THE LOCAL AREA ON BEHALF OF THE

LOCAL BOARD UNDER THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT ACT. IT

DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT AN EXISTING

RELATIONSHIP -- CAN I JUST ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT

THIS A LITTLE MORE AND THINK ABOUT IT AND CLARIFY IT

BY WHAT YOU MEAN WHAT IS A FISCAL AGENT OR WHAT IS

THE LOCAL AREA?

1 >> WE WILL GIVE A MORE COMPLETE ANSWER AT THE END OF THE
2 TRANSCRIPT. THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION.

>> WHAT'S DOL'S COMMITMENT TO RENEWING

THESE GRANTS IN THE YEAR, AND AND AND .

>> AS STATED, BASED ON THE FUNDING

AVAILABLE AND PERFORMANCE WITH REGARD TO THE LATTER

POINT, NO SPECIFIC CRITERIA MENTIONED.

WE'LL BE WORKING AS A COOPERATIVE

AGREEMENT. SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON A CONTINUUM BASIS.

QUARTERLY REPORTS WILL BE INVOLVED.

ANY SIGNS OF TROUBLE WILL CERTAINLY BE

DOCUMENTED. SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY DRAMATIC

SURPRISES THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, IS THIS IN THE

BUDGET UNDER DOL?

>> YES.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM NEW YORK. IS

THERE ANY CHANCE THAT THE GRANT COULD BE APPLIED BY A

STATE WIA BOARD INSTEAD OF A LOCAL ONE?

>> WE'LL COVER THAT HAS ANOTHER DIMENSION

TO THE BASIC QUESTION ON FISCAL AGENT. MY LAST

QUESTION FROM NEW YORK BEFORE WE MOVE ON?

NORTH DAKOTA?

OHIO?

OKLAHOMA?

>> YES. WILL THE RECIPIENTS OF THE

CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT GRANT STAND A BETTER CHANCE

WITH THIS SGA IN BEING FUNDED?

>> THAT'S A QUESTION I CAN'T ANSWER. IT

DEPENDS ON THE QUALITY OF THE PROPOSALS AS EVALUATED

BY THE CRITERIA.

>> AS YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES

THROUGHOUT THE SGA, THE VA, IS IT A REQUIREMENT OF

THIS GRANT THAT YOU COLLABORATE WITH THE VA?

>> NOT A REQUIREMENT, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP

OPPORTUNITY THAT'S OFFERED AS AN EXAMPLE AS ARE

OTHERS.

>> AND BY THE VA, DO YOU MEAN LOCAL

VETERANS EMPLOYMENT AND DISABLED OUTREACH PERSONNEL,

THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT

VETERAN'S EMPLOYMENT?

>> YES.

>> THAT'S ACTUALLY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR

SERVICE PROVIDERS, NOT THE VETERAN'S ADMINISTRATION,

BUT I UNDERSTAND THE YOUR POINT.

>> WE'RE IN OREGON NOW.

>> PENNSYLVANIA?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN DO YOU

ANTICIPATE POSTING THE TRANSCRIPT?

>> WITHIN FOUR TO FIVE BUSINESS DAYS, END

OF THE WEEK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FROM

PENNSYLVANIA. TO ELABORATE FURTHER ON A QUESTION

THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSAL

REGARDING THE HUD FUNDS. ARE WE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A

SMALLER AMOUNT OF MONEY THAN THE TWO TO THREE MILLION

DOLLARS?

>> WE DID SAY APPROXIMATE, IF YOU WERE TO

REQUEST A LOT LESS, I GUESS WE'D HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT

(INAUDIBLE) WITH THE DOL AMOUNT. BECAUSE THEY ALSO

HAVE A RANGE OF AWARD THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING.

>> SO DOES A MILLION A YEAR SEEM OUT OF THE

BALLPARK?

>> FOR AN SHP?

>> NO -- I DON'T THINK WE'VE DECIDED WHICH

WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO YET.

>> WELL, THE RANGE IN THE SGA IS

APPROXIMATELY TWO TO THREE MILLION. SO IF YOU'RE

PROPOSING A SHP, WHICH IS A YEAR PROJECT --

>> I WAS THINKING A MILLION OVERALL, NOT

PER YEAR.

>> WE'LL BE RATING THAT PROPOSAL AS WELL AS

ANY OTHERS WITH THE CRITERIA HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> RHODE ISLAND?

TENNESSEE?

>> YES, I HAVE ONE. I HAVE TWO ACTUALLY.

I DIDN'T NOTICE IN THE REQUIREMENTS IN HERE -- DO YOU

HAVE A NEEDS REQUIREMENT THAT WASN'T STATED AND I

JUST MISSED IT?

>> A AGE REQUIREMENT FOR CLIENTS IN.

>> NO.

>> SO IF FOR EXAMPLE THE YOUTH FUNDS,

THE -- IF YOU FUND -- WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUTH WITH

CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS, IS THERE A OVERLAP THERE

POSSIBLY BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMS?

>> OUR EXPERIENCE FROM THE HUD SIDE IS THAT

THERE ARE RELATIVELY FEW YOUTH THAT WOULD MEET ALL OF

THE COMPONENTS OF THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESSNESS

DEFINITION - THAT THEY ARE DISABLED AND HAVE BEEN

OUT ON THE STREETS CONTINUALLY FOR OVER A YEAR.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, NASHVILLE

IS ONE OF FOUR COUNTIES AND THIS IS FOR NASHVILLE IN

PARTICULAR -- I WASN'T SURE EARLIER HOW YOU FELT

ABOUT THAT --

>> WELL, WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE -- ARE

YOU ASKING ABOUT THE FIGURE?

>> NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT BE ABLE TO WRITE

FOR JUST ONE AREA OF YOUR FOUR COUNTY REGION?

>> THAT DOESN'T BOTHER HUD AT ALL. WE HAVE

NO CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE NOT COVERING THE COMPLETE

CONTINUUM.

>> AND FOR THE DOL SIDE?

>> AS LONG AS THE LOCAL WORK FORCE

INVESTMENT BOARD IS THE PRIMARY SPONSOR, WE'RE

SATISFIED.

>> TEXAS?

VIRGINIA?

OKAY. THAT'S THE SECOND GO AROUND. MAYBE

WE'VE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE FOR QUESTIONS, SO JUST

OPEN IT SO. WHO WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE NEXT QUESTION.

>> MAINE HAS A

QUESTION.

TALK ABOUT THE OLMSTEAD DOL PART. IF WE

HAD LISTED ONE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROVIDER, DOES

THAT SPEAK NEGATIVELY TO THE CHOICE ISSUE, OR DO YOU

WANT US TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT

PROVIDER AS A RURAL STATE?

>> CERTAINLY YOUR LOCAL CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD

BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, WHETHER ONE IS ENOUGH I CAN'T

SAY. I DON'T THINK WE SPEAK TO THAT, IT WOULD BE THE

QUALITY OF THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT OFFERING, THE

VARIETY OF OPTIONS THAT ARE IN THE DEFINITION, HOW

MANY OF THOSE YOU ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT OR PROVIDE I

THINK WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT.

>> THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION?

>> YES, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO WHETHER THE SGA

IS REALLY WEIGHTED TOWARDS THE CREATION OF CUSTOMIZED

EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, OR IS IT ALSO TO PROPOSED

SERVICES AND SUPPORT OF THAT NATURE?

>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION.

>> IN OTHER WORDS, ARE WE BEING ASKED,

UNDER THIS SGA TO CREATE CUSTOMIZED SUPPORTED

EMPLOYMENT THAT PAYS A LIVING WAGE, OR IS IT MORE

WEIGHTED TOWARDS SERVICES AND SUPPORT THAT ALLOW

PEOPLE TO ACCESS UNSUBSIDIZED EMPLOYMENT?

>> POSSIBLY IT'S BOTH. THIS IS OF COURSE,

IT'S AN EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, AND INTEGRATED NON-

STEREOTYPIC EMPLOYMENT IS THE THRUST OF IT. I'M NOT

SURE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, I'M NOT SURE I

UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. IF THAT WASN'T A GOOD

ANSWER, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK CASSANDRA WILLIS

AGAIN AND WE'LL GO DO A BETTER JOB.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FROM HAWAII. THIS IS

BOTH A SYSTEMS CHANGE GRANT AND ACTUAL OUTCOMES FOR

THE PEOPLE TOO.

>> THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS YES.

>> ARE THERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR

CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT RSA RSP'S IN THE FUTURE TOO?

I'M SORRY, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WRITING A LARGE

GRANT -- WE MISSED THE FIRST CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT

OPPORTUNITY A FEW MONTHS AGO, OR THE ONE FROM THE

PAST, BUT IS THAT EXPECTED FROM DOL, CUSTOMIZED

EMPLOYMENT?

>> WELL, WE JUST COMPLETED A COMPETITION --

>> RIGHT.

>> AND IF YOU'RE ASKING WILL THERE BE ONE

NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THERE ARE NO PLANS TO HAVE ONE

NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

>> BECAUSE HAWAII HAS BEEN OUT OF THE LOOP

IN THIS IN GENERAL.

>> THAT'S THE BEST I COULD SAY RIGHT NOW.

THERE ARE NO CLEAR PLANS THAT THERE WILL BE ONE.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION?

>> QUESTION FROM PENNSYLVANIA?

>> YES.

>> WE DO UNPAID WORK EXPERIENCE/COMMUNITY

SERVICE, UNDER THE DOL PIECE, ONLY AT NO COST, BUT

COULD WE ALSO USE SOME OF THE DOL FUNDS FOR PAID WORK

EXPERIENCE?

>> YOU MEAN LIKE ON THE JOB TRAINING OR

PAID INTERNSHIPS?

>> YES.

>> AS LONG AS YOU COULD SHOW IN YOUR

PROPOSALS THEY'RE LEADING DIRECTLY TO INTEGRATED/PAID

CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT.

>> USING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT STRATEGIES.

>> WE CAN ALSO DO UNPAID WORK EXPERIENCE

AND COMMUNITY SERVICE?

>> WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE EXPERIENCED IN THE

FIELD IN THE KIND OF JOB THEY MIGHT BE GOING INTO.

>> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE ANSWER TO

YOU IN THE TRANSCRIPT.

>> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MICHIGAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> YES, MICHIGAN. AFTER THESE GRANTS ARE

AWARDED TO THE WORK INVESTMENT BOARDS, WOULD IT BE

THE LOCAL INVESTMENT BOARD OR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT?

>> WELL THE LOCAL WORK FORCE INVESTMENT

BOARD WOULD BE FOR THE DOL GRANT.

>> CALIFORNIA?

>> YES, SIR.

>> ON THE LABOR SIDE, WE OCCASIONALLY GET

SOME BURDENSOME REQUIREMENTS FOR DATA COLLECTION AND

REPORTING. CAN YOU GIVE US A GLIMPSE OF WHAT THAT'S

GOING TO LOOK LIKE?

>> WE ARE LOOKING TO TRACK RESULTS AND

PROGRESS BASED ON DISABILITY TYPE, AGE, GENDER, TYPES

OF OCCUPATIONS, PLACED, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND

ALSO WE'RE LOOKING SINCE IT'S A SYSTEMS CHANGE GRANT,

WE'RE LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIPS, LINKAGES, LEVERAGING

OF FUNDS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE ASKED TO BE

REPORTED.

>> TO WHOM WILL THE REPORT GO?

>> THE DOL REPORT WILL COME TO THE OFFICE

OF DISABILITY POLICY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, THEN THE

FOURTH QUARTER THERE WILL BE AN ANNUAL REPORT

COMBINING THOSE ELEMENTS, THE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM WITH

THE HUD HOUSING SECTION, AND THEN BACK TO QUARTERLY

REPORTS FOR THE DOL GRANT.

>> DOL AND PROCUREMENT. THERE'S ALSO A

FINANCIAL REPORT THAT GOES WITH THE REPORT. YOU CAN

READ THIS IN DETAIL IN THE PACKET.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM PENNSYLVANIA?

>> GO AHEAD, PENNSYLVANIA?

WE SEEM TO BE IN A UNIQUE SITUATION HERE

WHERE OUR HUD FOLKS AND OUR LABOR LOCAL WORK FORCE

AREA IS ACTUALLY ONE -- ARE HOUSED TOGETHER. WE'RE

ALL PART OF ONE ORGANIZATION.

IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR WAY WE SHOULD

HANDLE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE

TWO GROUPS, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME

SIGNATURE ON BOTH?

>> YOU SORT OF HAVE A HEAD START THERE. WE

STILL NEED TO HAVE A MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT, BUT YOU

CAN EXPLAIN YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES AND THAT WILL

CERTAINLY BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> QUESTION FROM OKLAHOMA. DO YOU HAVE TO

DISCLOSE YOUR DISABILITY FOR CONSIDERATION FOR

EMPLOYMENT, AND I'M THINKING OF THE HIV AIDS

POPULATION?

>> DISCLOSE IT DO THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT

OPERATOR?

>> YES.

>> WELL YOU CERTAINLY NEED TO DOCUMENT THE

PERSON AS THE ELIGIBLE POPULATION AS DEFINED IN THE

SGA, CHRONICALLY HOMELESS. HOLD ON ONE SECOND

PLEASE. WE'RE BACK.

SORRY FOR THE DELAY. WE'LL GIVE YOU A MORE

CONSIDERED ANSWER IN THIS TRANSCRIPT. THANK YOU

FOR THE QUESTION THOUGH. WE HAVE ABOUT TEN MINUTES

LEFT. ARE THERE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONAL

QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT?

>> QUESTION FROM MINNESOTA.

>> GO AHEAD MINNESOTA.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A -- (Low Audio).

-- I'M SORRY, WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR

QUESTION.

>> THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, --

>> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION.

>> THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN

THE DOL AGENCY AND THE HUD AGENT INCLUDING?

>> I'M SORRY, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR

QUESTION. IT'S CUTTING OUT.

>> COULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH SOME

INDICATION OF WHAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CONTENT

OF MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE HUD AGENCY

AND THE DOL AGENCY?

>> I CAN NOT GIVE YOU ANYTHING BEYOND

WHAT'S SAID IN THE SGA REGARDING THAT SECTION.

ON PAGE , THERE IS A VERY EXPLICIT

LIST OF THINGS THAT MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE MEMO.

BEYOND THAT THERE ISN'T MORE GUIDANCE. THIS IS THE

SECTION THAT DESCRIBES WHAT SHOULD BE CONTAINED IN

THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> YES, MAINE, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

>> UNDER THE MATCH NETWORK, PAYMENT BE

CONSIDERED AS POTENTIAL MATCHES?

-- TO FUNDING STREAM FOR HUD TO CONSIDER

AS A MATCH?

>> SOMEONE'S PHONE IS RINGING SO IT'S

INTERRUPTING THE FLOW OF THE QUESTION, -- CAN YOU ASK

YOUR QUESTION AGAIN PLEASE.

>> IN DESIGNING THE SOCIAL SERVICES MATCH

FOR SHELTER PLUS CASE, THE MILESTONE PAYMENTS UNDER

TICKET TO WORK, IS THAT CONSIDERED A VIABLE FUNDING

SOURCE.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT LET ME

BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE MATCH REQUIREMENT FOR SHELTER

PLUS CARE. IT'S REALLY ANY SUPPORTIVE SERVICE THAT

ASSISTS THE PERSON TO BECOME MORE INDEPENDENT IN

THEIR HOUSING. AND IT MUST BE A DIRECT SERVICE.

YOU CAN'T INCLUDE THINGS THAT DO NOT

DIRECTLY ASSIST THAT INDIVIDUAL.

AND IF YOU NEED MORE GUIDANCE YOU CAN

CONTRACT YOUR HUD LOCAL OFFICE FOR CLARIFICATION ON

YOUR PARTICULAR MATCH QUESTION.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

>> IT'S OUR EXPERIENCE WITH CUSTOMIZED

EMPLOYMENT THAT IT'S SORT OF A ALL HANDS ON DECK

APPROACH. IS THAT -- I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU

MIGHT RULE OUT UNPAID VERSUS PAID INTERNSHIPS --

>> OUR ANSWER WASN'T INTENDED TO SAY WE

WOULD RULE IT OUT. OUR ANSWER WAS WE NEED TO

CONSIDER IT FURTHER AND GIVE YOU A FURTHER ANSWER IN

THE TRANSCRIPT.

>> QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA?

>> YES.

>> AS A NON-PROFIT AGENCY SERVING THE

HOMELESS, ARE WE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR HUD FOR

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AS A INDIVIDUAL AGENCY OR A

CONTINUUM CARE WITH ANOTHER AGENCY?

>> WELL, TO REQUEST THE HUD FUNDING YOU

CERTAINLY CAN BE A C NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE COMPETITION,

HOWEVER, YOU DO NEED THE LINK UP WITH A WIA

COUNTERPART IN YOUR AREA.

>> DOES THIS ALSO GO FOR THE DOL TOO? IS

THAT IN ORDER TO GET INVOLVED, WE HAVE TO BE NAMED BY

WIA? I THINK THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.

>> THEY HAVE TO NAME THE PARTNER.

>> THE LOCAL WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD IS

THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANT. THEY CAN SUBCONTRACT WITH

OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND GET OTHERS

INVOLVED BUT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE LEAD.

>> HOW DO THEY JUST SUBCONTRACT, DO THEY

JUST DO IT THEMSELVES?

>> I SUPPOSE THAT'S UP TO THEM HOW THEY

DECIDE TO DO IT. BUT THEY'RE IN THE LEADERSHIP ROLE

IN TERMS OF MAKING THOSE ARRANGEMENTS.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> FOLLOW UP QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA.

OTHER DOL FUNDS, ARE PROCURED. YOU'RE SAYING THIS

DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE PROCURED?

>> IT'S UP TO THEM HOW THEY WANT TO DO

THAT.

>> IT'S UP TO THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANT.

>> SOME STATES REQUIRE THAT THEY DO. SOME

STATES DON'T. SOME STATES REQUIRE THAT YOU DO A RFP.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR STATE REQUIRES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES, IF THERE ARE

ANY REMAINING QUESTIONS.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM OKLAHOMA. SINCE

YOU'RE ASKING FOR A INTEGRATED NON-STEREOTYPICAL

EMPLOYMENT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU DO NOT WANT US TO

SET UP A ENTREPRENEURIAL BUSINESS?

>> NO, THAT DOES MEAN THAT AT ALL. THAT'S

PRETTY INTEGRATED AND NON-STEREOTYPIC IN MY HUMBLE

OPINION.

>> CALIFORNIA?

>> YES?

>> WILL YOU BE REQUIRING DOCUMENTATION AS

FOR EXAMPLE, SELECTIVE SERVICE?

>> HOLD ON ONE SECOND, PLEASE.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

>> WE'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER IN THE

TRANSCRIPT. WE HAVE OUR CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT GRANTS

THAT ARE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION, NO FINAL ANSWER

HAS BEEN PROVIDED. THEY ARE OPERATING WITHOUT THAT

REQUIREMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WILL

EVENTUALLY BE. BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER IN

THE TRANSCRIPT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

GOING ONCE, WE'RE GOING TO GO UP TO THREE

HERE, TWICE,

>> PENNSYLVANIA HAS ONE MORE QUESTION.

>> YOU MENTIONED THAT THE AWARDS WOULD

HOPEFULLY BE ANNOUNCED BY SEPTEMBER TH. WHAT WOULD

BE THE TURN AROUND TURN FOR THE START OF THE

OPERATION ON THE PROJECT?

>> SEPTEMBER TH. IT WOULD BE IMMEDIATE.

>> OKAY. SO YOU WANT IMMEDIATE START?

>> YES.

>> JUST A COMPLIMENT, PENNSYLVANIA DID A

REALLY GREAT JOB MATCHING US ALL ON THIS MEETING ON

THE PHONE.

>> WE ALL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE MOSTLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST AND

SUPPORT. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL

AND THE OPPORTUNITIES IT REPRESENTS. WE HAVE A LOT

OF GOOD FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS. SO WE WISH YOU ALL THE

BEST OF LUCK.

AND IF THE YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOU

KNOW YOU CAN ASK THEM OF CASSANDRA WILLIS. HER NAME

AND PHONE NUMBER ARE LISTED IN THE SGA AND WE'LL BE

POSTING THE TRANSCRIPT IN FOUR OR FIVE BUSINESS DAYS.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THAT WE'LL

CRAFT ANSWERS TO. LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE.

AND AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, IF YOU WANT

TO KNOW WHO FROM YOUR STATE WAS INVOLVED IN THIS,

SEND ME AN E-MAIL. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SHARED

WITH OTHERS IN YOUR STATE, SEND ME AN E-MAIL AND LET

ME KNOW. WITH THAT SAID, ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IN

WASHINGTON HAVE ANY FINAL WORDS? MARK?

>> I DO JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR

INTEREST AND WE HOPE TO GET YOUR APPLICATIONS THIS NEXT MONTH.

>> THANK YOU ALL AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. AND

BEST OF LUCK AGAIN. WE'RE SIGNING OFF NOW.

GOOD-BYE.

NOTE: Here are the answers to questions asked during the call that DOL and HUD committed to attach to the end of this transcript.

Questions and Answers from the Chronic Homelessness Bidders Conference Call

Can the customized employment portion of the application support unpaid work or internships?

No. The employment portion of the grant is to focus on securing paid work at minimum wage or above for the individuals involved, using customized strategies.

Does customized employment require disclosure of disability?

No. It is helpful, but not essential, since one of the main ingredients in customized employment is negotiation. Voluntary disclosure, authorized by the job candidate, allows the employer to understand why the job developer may want to customize a job description on behalf of an individual. However, the disclosure must be a voluntarily act by the job candidate, who must give clear authority to disclose the disability during the negotiations with employers. The permission should be in writing.

Can a State Workforce Investment Board (SWIB) be eligible to apply for the DOL cooperative agreement?

No. Only Local Workforce Investment Boards are eligible to apply.

Can a Local Workforce Investment Board identify another entity to serve as its “fiscal agent” for purposes of applying for the DOL cooperative agreement?

No. Eligible applicants are only “Local Workforce Investment Boards (Local Boards), or if appropriate, the WIA grant recipient or fiscal agent for the local area on behalf of the Local Board under the Workforce Investment Act.” This requirement is designed to support the purpose of this solicitation. “The purpose of the DOL Cooperative Agreements and the HUD grants is to bring the respective expertise and capabilities of both the local workforce development system (One-Stop Career Centers and their partners) and the local permanent housing services organizations, to develop and document the increased employment outcomes anticipated when these organizations combine their efforts to respond to the employment and housing needs of persons who are chronically homeless.”

Does Section h. of the Workforce Investment Action apply to the enrollment of males covered by the Selective Service Act under this program?

Answer still unavailable at this time.

Can the DOL grant or cooperative agreement funds be used towards the HUD matching requirement for the HUD portion of the effort?

The DOL funds can be applied towards meeting the service match for the HUD Shelter Plus Care program. The DOL funds cannot be used to match HUD Supportive Housing Program funds, as the matching funds must be used for an eligible activity (e.g., acquisition of housing) and supportive services are not an eligible activity in this competition.

Does the HUD “one-strike” rule apply?

No. By law, HUD’s homeless programs require a formal due process to determine if a client’s assistance in the program shall be terminated.

Where are the ODEP “customized employment” projects located?

For information on these projects go to: www.onestops.info and click, under “resources”, the section titled “customized/workforce action”.